A roaming conversation between brothers covering the crazy pardons, and other executive orders.
Host by:
- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:18) Introduction
(00:02:44) Biden's Last Day Pardons
(00:12:11) Trump's Pardons and Legal Implications
(00:21:26) Executive Orders Overview
(00:54:05) General Motors and Data Privacy
(00:59:58) Science and Fact-Checking
(01:06:09) Hamas and International Politics
(01:14:55) Nuclear Energy Innovations
(01:21:00) Real ID and Security Clearances
(01:26:42) Conclusion and Farewell
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, January 22nd, and we are live with episode number 21 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas, where we're still trying to figure out the difference between a Nazi salute, a Roman salute, just a guy that's a bit socially awkward.
[00:00:40] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Friese coming at you from eastern Kansas, where 2 nights ago, we hit negative 12 degrees as the regular air temperature.
[00:00:50] Jesse Fries:
Ouch. That's cold. That Yeah.
[00:00:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. We, Kansas City Kansas City broke its record. It was negative 6, and now the new record new record is negative 8. Is that, like, just for the day or just overall?
[00:01:05] Jesse Fries:
No. It's just for the day. Okay. Well, who cares? I The the record low of the day. Yeah. Okay. Whoop dee doo. Yeah. I remember, like, a negative 11 one time when I was living in Kansas. Yeah. That was cold. Yeah. Yeah. Not that there's much be difference between negative 8 and negative and 11, but, you know, there is some there. No. I I will say we did get lucky, though,
[00:01:27] Jamon Fries:
Because, on the west side of Kansas City, not only did they have the low temperatures, which weren't quite as low as ours, they were at, like, negative 6, negative 5, so stuff like that. Uh-huh. But they had a lot of wind, so their wind chills were almost negative 30.
[00:01:42] Jesse Fries:
Hoo, doggy.
[00:01:43] Jamon Fries:
That is a Whereas, we had no wind here, so it was negative 12, and the wind chill was negative 12.
[00:01:50] Jesse Fries:
See, you can live with that. That that that's actually not too bad. It really isn't. So Yeah. Without it you add that wind in, and it just becomes horrible.
[00:01:59] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Because, you know Yeah. The wind the wind will penetrate every layer that you have if you don't have a very good windbreaker. Whereas if if there's no wind and you go out and it's it's you know, if it's, like, negative 12, your layers are gonna be effective.
[00:02:13] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That is true. That is true. Yep. So anything new happened?
[00:02:21] Jamon Fries:
I can't think of a thing. Yeah. Me neither. Me neither.
[00:02:25] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. We have, like, a new president or something like that. And then there's some Oh, yeah. Yeah. There there was that. Yeah. Imagine that craziness. Craziness. Yep. Yep. Okay. So what do we wanna tackle first with this? Because there's so much. Oh god. There is so much.
[00:02:44] Jamon Fries:
You know, honestly, I I think we need to get into I think the first thing we should talk about is what Biden did to us before he left office.
[00:02:55] Jesse Fries:
Ah, okay. Okay. Like, the executive, like, the pardons and everything like that? Yeah.
[00:03:01] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Those pardons were insane.
[00:03:05] Jesse Fries:
They were crazy. They were crazy. Okay. So his pardons, what what do you have anything on it? Or,
[00:03:16] Jamon Fries:
no. Just general comments about, you know, just the the fact that almost every part every pardon that he gave was a pardon for something that had never been charged or anything like that yet. Well well,
[00:03:30] Jesse Fries:
okay. Let let let's separate first because he did, like, pardon criminals and everything like that. Yeah. But we're talking about, like, the day
[00:03:39] Jamon Fries:
of or the we're talking we're talking about his very last day in pre as president where he pardoned all of his family, and he pardoned everyone in the j six committee and doctor Fauci. I I don't know if I really should I I don't like calling him doctor because I don't call him I don't consider him a doctor. But, Well, he is a doctor. I'll I'll give him a doctor. He he got his doctorate and stuff like that. Yes. Does he need to Is he is he a medical doctor?
[00:04:05] Jesse Fries:
I think I think he's I think he's I don't know if he's a I don't know if he's a scientist or if he's an actual doctor. Well, he can be both. So it's one of those things. Yeah. So Yep. Yeah. I don't know. Either way, he's he's more of a doctor than, Joe Biden. Just saying. Oh, yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. At least what he has to do has to do with health. So Yes. There is there is that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, no, it was like my my my my first take on Biden just preemptively pardoning j 6, committee and then Fauci and then Mark Mille Mille or whatever his name is.
All that is my first thing. Because when I saw it, I just wrote down my thoughts. It was like, for fuck's sakes, this stinks to high heaven. That was that was my Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And then when it was released that he pardoned his siblings, my initial reaction was what the actual fuck? Yeah. I I think that's but sums it up because it's insane.
[00:05:11] Jamon Fries:
It really is insane. It it's kinda funny, though. I I heard some people commenting commenting about it, on the the gut filled show and with Fox News. Right. And they were saying, you know, I wonder when Biden's gonna wake up and and say, shit. I forgot to pardon myself.
[00:05:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I saw that one. But that that's what that always begs the question. Can you pardon yourself? I don't think that's ever been settled, because I'm sure Nixon would have done it
[00:05:43] Jamon Fries:
if it was really possible. So I I don't know. I don't know if it's ever been settled that you can just give a blanket pardon over many, many years without ever any without any crime having been charged.
[00:05:55] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that's always the question. And I I Yeah. I really looked into this, actually. I looked up case law because I've seen things where it says if you if you accept a pardon, you're actually admitting guilt, for what the for the crime that was committed. Because there has to be a crime to be pardoned from. And this was actually used by a couple of the death row, inmates that Biden pardoned, like, last week or the week before. You know how he pardoned basically everyone except for, like, the Boston bombers. Yeah.
And some of them, 2 of them didn't take it because they said that that's an admission of guilt. And so it would hurt their chance of actually appealing and getting free and everything like that. So they did not accept pardon.
[00:06:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. There was there was one other aspect to that too. But, yeah, that that was that was a big big part of it. Right. Right. But, yeah, I really looked into it. And
[00:07:01] Jesse Fries:
when it comes to this, like Fauci, and we basically know what crimes there's a lot of knowledge about what he may have done wrong.
[00:07:12] Jamon Fries:
Yes.
[00:07:13] Jesse Fries:
Millie, there's a lot of knowledge about what he may have done wrong.
[00:07:18] Jamon Fries:
Yes.
[00:07:19] Jesse Fries:
And who else was in that, right off that list? But those were the 2 main ones there. And then the j 6 k. They also know what they did. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They burnt all the freaking documents.
[00:07:31] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know, it's like They they destroyed evidence. That that's that's a that's a criminal offense. That that's a criminal offense. That's a felony. Well, it it's federal documents is what they destroyed.
[00:07:41] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. You can't you can't destroy federal documents. It it's against the law.
[00:07:45] Jamon Fries:
Just Well, not not only that, but not only is it not only is it against the law to to destroy federal documents, but they also destroyed all of the evidence that could have exonerated the people that were being charged in in criminal court. Yep. And so by destroying that evidence, you know, you can you can just ignore the fact that it's criminal documents. They tampered with evidence.
[00:08:08] Jesse Fries:
And to me, that's a bigger deal. Oh, it's a huge deal. It is a huge deal. And what's funny is that, like, Fauci and all these people, they they go, oh, thank God we could rest easy now because we can't be, thrown in jail or something like that. Well, by accepting it I looked into this by accepting it per the Supreme Court, you are admitting that you committed the crime. Yep. That's what a part to accept a pardon, that's what it is. There's case law on it. It's a Burdick versus United States, 1915. Yep. Yep. There's there's this line from that where it's talking about the difference between legislative immunity and pardon and executive pardon.
Uh-huh. So there's a huge difference. It says the difference is substantial. The latter, so, the pardon, carries a imputation of guilt. Acceptance, a con a confession of it. So it's you're accepting the confession of the guilt that you have done. The former, so the immunity has no such imputation or confession. It is Yeah. Tantamount to the silence of the witness. It is non committal. So basically, if you're immune from it, there's there's no you're not saying I did anything or anything like that. Right. Yeah. And so basically, they said it is, unobtrusive act of law given protection against the sinister use of his testimony, not like a pardon. So that's when it comes to immunity. But it says not like a pardon requiring a pardon requires him to confess his guilt in order to avoid a conviction.
That is what a pardon does. Yep. And then you have no other rights after that. You have accepted the pardon. You are guilty. But everything else is fine.
[00:10:02] Jamon Fries:
You you there's not you you won't be whole held accountable for the crime, but you are guilty of the crime. You have to be punishment, but you are guilty. Yes. Yes. So which means that every every member of the Biden family, you know, is is now a felon.
[00:10:18] Jesse Fries:
Not not everyone. Not everyone. I don't think he did some of his children. I know he did 100.
[00:10:24] Jamon Fries:
But you everybody that he pardoned is now is now a felon. So,
[00:10:29] Jesse Fries:
yeah, there's that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we got that at least. You know?
[00:10:35] Jamon Fries:
Well, you know, the I I did hear there is one there is still one person that can be held accountable for their actions. Uh-huh. Mark Milley. How so? Because the the presidential pardon has nothing to do with the military, so he can still be brought up your court martial. He can there's a lot of the stuff the military can still do to him.
[00:10:57] Jesse Fries:
Did you see that they took down his painting? Oh, I didn't. Yeah. So in the Pentagon, they have paintings, portraits of every, chief of every, what what's the top military guy? I can't remember what he is. I can't remember. But you you you know how they appoint the person appoints 1, and he's the head of all of the military and everything like that. Well, guess what? They took down that painting. Everybody else is still there. Everybody all the former ones are still there. So they actually took down his painting.
[00:11:37] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, you know, it makes sense. It really does. It really does. He he was he was this he he is and was a stain on the military.
[00:11:46] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Yes. And he he did would not actually perform the duties Yeah. And the orders that Trump ordered while he was president. Yeah. Completely. Just yep.
[00:12:00] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah. But yeah. So, there's a a lot of stuff going on with all that.
[00:12:11] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that that's still crazy. They're gonna have to parse everything with that. And since they have a pardon and if they accepted the pardon, now Fauci will have to testify in congress because there will be no threat of
[00:12:23] Jamon Fries:
Yep. If he accepts it. I I think So I think that's one of the, I think that's one of the biggest things about the pardons is that it gets is that you're no longer subjective to the, 5th amendment. You can no longer plead the 5th because you've gotten the pardon for the crime.
[00:12:38] Jesse Fries:
So it's impossible to incriminate yourself. Have that you have admitted that you committed. Yes. Yes. You've already admitted that you committed it, so you can't really plead the 5th because you've already said you've committed that crime. Absolutely.
[00:12:56] Jamon Fries:
The law is crazy. Yeah. It really is. Yeah. And then there's all the pardons that Trump did. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm not sure I agree with all of them that got pardoned, but, you know, I I the the I really hope that that includes the people that haven't been charged but are still in prison. Because what what the the way the way it were the way a lot of it was worded and the way that a lot of people are reporting on it, it's it's those that were charged with with crimes and stuff like that. But there are quite a few that
[00:13:33] Jesse Fries:
there?
[00:13:34] Jamon Fries:
Sorry about that. Yeah. My voice started cracking. No. There were there were quite a few that never got charged, but have been in prison for over 4 years. You know? I mean, it's Right. And so, hopefully hopefully, they're all free now. Hopefully, they've all been released now.
[00:13:54] Jesse Fries:
I believe so. Let's see here. What where are the presidential actions. Where was that? I think that was pretty close to the last page. Because I actually went through, like, all everything that was on the online. I actually went through all the executive orders and read all of them.
[00:14:22] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:14:24] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Granting partners commutations, for January 6th. Let's see here. Grant a full and complete unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred. Yeah. It says convicted. Yeah. Let's see. The attorney general
[00:14:45] Jamon Fries:
political prisoner
[00:14:46] Jesse Fries:
may not be affected by that. Let's see. The attorney general shall administer and and effectuate the immediate issuance of pardons to all individuals described in section b above and shall ensure the individual events. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think you have to be convicted. But then the attorney general can release the other ones too, because technically, there's no crime there. They haven't been convicted.
[00:15:22] Jamon Fries:
So I'm not sure if that would actually The thing the thing is though is that, I mean, yes, the new attorney general can do that, and and hopefully they get on that right away. But, because I mean, these people have been yeah. And and it's kind of funny, you know, they're they're doing every they did everything that you always hear about the evil nations doing, where you're holding putting people in prison without trials. You're holding political prisoners. And, I mean, they were going so far is that, like, every 10 days or so, they would move these every within every certain amount of time, they would move them to a new facility.
Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And I mean That that's just shady as hell.
[00:16:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, a lot of it was shady as hell. Yeah. Completely. It's, Mhmm. Yeah. No. It's, I I listened. He had like a little press conference, like, while he was signing, these executive orders. And in there, he they asked him about the violent criminals, the ones that had committed actual violence there. And he said, well, they've been in jail for a while anyway. So that's why I didn't go. It's not that. And some of them got pardoned. Some of them were just commuted. So yeah, but I looked some of the violent ones. They were they were pardoned, which is completely different than commuted. So Right. Yeah. They they what he commit muted, like, 14 or so people, I think. And then the rest were pardoned. So yep.
Yeah. No clue. No clue. Yeah. No. That that that's a that's a iffy one too.
[00:16:58] Jamon Fries:
It really is. I mean, you know, there there's I he had always said that he was gonna look case by case, and if they actually committed a major crime while while they were there, then he wouldn't then they wouldn't receive his pardon, but it looked like it was just a blanket pardon. So Yeah. It was. It it looks like there was some discussion and everything like that. Some aid,
[00:17:20] Jesse Fries:
undisclosed aid talked to, media.
[00:17:24] Jamon Fries:
Of course.
[00:17:25] Jesse Fries:
And they said that, basically, it just came down to it where, at one point, Trump just said, fuck it. Just part them all.
[00:17:33] Jamon Fries:
That's what it was. Well, I mean, it was it was probably you know, he was probably doing what he said he was going to do, which is going case by case. Mhmm. Because that that's how you're supposed to do pardons is case by case. Right. But, you know, after so many cases of this should have been thrown out, this never should have been charged. This shouldn't have been this. This shouldn't have been that. I I can imagine, you know, going out you have to have after looking at, like, a 1000 cases of this, you're like, you know what? Fuck it. We're just getting rid of them all.
[00:18:03] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. Yeah. I I don't know the timing of when it actually happened. It some some people also said possibly it was once, like, Biden pardoned his entire his family. Trump is just like, oh, fuck this. Just okay. Just Okay. That that would make a lot of sense. Them all. Yeah. Yeah. Because Yeah. Once once Biden really just went crazy with those pardons, it it was just like Yep. Well, I guess anything's open now. You know? Even though Biden said Biden and everybody, every Democrat, including Schiff, who was part of the j six committee, they were all, like, oh, no. You can't do that back when Trump was after Trump left. Yeah. There was some talk that Trump might have done that, but he did it. But they were saying, oh, you can't do that. That that sets. No. No. No. No. Yeah.
No. No. Trump's just going, well, he set precedents. So I'll see what I do in the future. I don't know. So
[00:18:54] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I found it so amusing, you know, that, while while Biden was was doing his pardon for his family, he's like, this in no way means that they're that they're guilty of anything. We are just protecting them from from political from political trials that that other people might bring on them. And I'm sitting there like, well, you know, if you hadn't set first of all, if you hadn't set a precedent of political trials, you know, then Yeah. Yeah. So many political trials Biden. But, also, if you actually did something bad, like what the lot of his family is is, so is rumored to have done. Right. That's not a political charge.
That's a legal charge.
[00:19:49] Jesse Fries:
Right. I I I'm right there with you. But, yeah, as you said, he is the one that started the whole, going after your Yeah. Political opponent is, it's like no matter what you say, it's like Jack Smith goes, oh, yeah. No. It was a good case. No. It wasn't, dude. It wasn't. No. It was. No. Every prosecutor says it. So yeah. No. Yeah. And, you know, it's you know, it's Biden messed up with that. But but then the question is, did Biden even do it? You know? It's like Yeah. I there's so much it's like, yeah, he he wasn't even really president towards it again. So, you know, it's like
[00:20:36] Jamon Fries:
well, did did you hear the, the interview with the, speaker of the house? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Where he where he was talking with Biden. Why did you why did you do this? Why did you sign that executive order? And Biden's like, I what are you talking about? I never signed anything like that. Yeah.
[00:20:55] Jesse Fries:
My favorite response to that video was people going, dude, why didn't you tell us this before? Why did you wait till now? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:21:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolutely. I mean, that that's that's something that should've come out as soon as it was as soon as he said it. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, presidents,
[00:21:12] Jesse Fries:
they, yeah, they're always covered for and everything like that. It's it's Oh, of course. Of course. Shady situation there. It really is. Yeah. Let's see here. Do you want me to just go through all the different, I I wrote, like, a quick little synopsis of all the different executive orders, and I can go through that. Well, I mean, there there's certain ones that I would that I would like to touch on, but What we could do what we could do is I can go through them. And then if it's one of those, we can, delve further into it. Okay. That works. That work for you?
Yep. Okay. So, overall, the executive orders from everything I saw, in essence, they're all like America first, basically, most of them. Yeah. Then there's also stop border incursions. That's a huge part of it. Well, there's quite a few that deal with the border and everything like that. And with illegal immigration, then there's the bits that make sure that the executive branch does what Trump actually wants them to do. There's a lot of that as well. Yes, yes. And then there's a issue, the mitigation of issues where people in the government use their power to hurt their political rivals. Yeah. That's basically what they all boil down to.
Yeah. The the first one I have here is the one called guaranteeing the state's protection against evasion. This one just states that the executive has the duty to ensure health safety of the states. And so people coming to the border need to have their criminal and medical records so that they can be verified. Yeah. Makes sense. Yep. That that that's, it's law anyways. So it's,
[00:23:00] Jamon Fries:
because when you when you It's it's amazing how how many presidential orders are actually just there to enforce the actual law. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy because, my brother-in-law, he, is applying for,
[00:23:12] Jesse Fries:
the green card lottery. Okay. And he had to provide all his background, his medical and everything like that. It's just well, along with his wife because his wife is part of the lottery as well. So, you know, you have to do this if you're doing it legally. So it only makes sense that you have to do it otherwise. Yeah. Then there's the restoring names that honor great American greatness. This one is the this one is the funniest one to me. So it renames Mount McKinley back to Mount McKinley. So there's that. That's good. Right? Okay. But then it also makes the Gulf of Mexico
[00:23:47] Jamon Fries:
into Gulf of Mexico. America. Yeah.
[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:
This way this way to me is just a troll. It it just cracks me up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:59] Jamon Fries:
Let's see. I heard some people talking about that one saying that that the reason he the really, the only reason he did that one is that other peep said everybody will pay attention to the executive orders that are going through. I could see Is there any other craziness in there?
[00:24:17] Jesse Fries:
It's just funny to me. It's like a Oh, yeah. Okay. Whatever. You you you know, I well, it was named after Mexico, so why not name it after us? You know? Or everybody Yeah. Us, you know, or everybody Yeah. Absolutely. Because apparently, a lot of countries say we're all America over here. It's not just us. Yeah. So, you know, it's, it's just naming it for the continents. You know? Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:24:40] Jamon Fries:
It makes sense.
[00:24:41] Jesse Fries:
Except in his except in his order, he did it's just named after us. That's really Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Then he, designated cartels, and other organizations as foreign terrorists.
[00:24:58] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[00:24:59] Jesse Fries:
And especially the I think that one's an important one. Yeah. Yeah. This includes the Mexican cartels, but also MS 13, Trende Raguar, t d a. Yeah. And, basically, he says that they threaten US national security, and that's both inside and outside the United States that they threaten us. So
[00:25:22] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.
[00:25:24] Jesse Fries:
And what this means is that we can send our military after them. That's what it means. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But it also another thing it does is
[00:25:34] Jamon Fries:
anybody that's anybody any companies or anything like that here in the US that are note that are caught working with them will now be under major legal problems. And, you know, the every I've read stuff saying, that's what's bad about this. And I'm like, no. If you're actually supporting the cartels, it's good that you go to jail. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep.
[00:25:58] Jesse Fries:
That's what I figured too. Let's see here. Next one is, reforming federal hiring process and restoring merit to government service. This is in the news really because it gets rid of DEI and affirmative action and all merit based. But there's other things in there as well that I read. It's quite interesting. It actually streams treat streamlines the hiring process. Oh, really? Yeah, it does. And not only that, it makes it so that a person applying for a job isn't waiting more than 80 days for a decision.
[00:26:39] Jamon Fries:
More than 80 days? More than 80 days. Holy crap. So it's If you're waiting that long for a job without it without any other source of income, you're screwed. Well right. Right. But, yeah, it's so it's shortening it because before I I'm not sure if there was a time frame on it. Yeah. Right. No. There wasn't. And I'm sure I'm sure that there were some some places out there where, you know, I I I know that a lot of employers and stuff, they'll hold on to resumes and stuff like that for, like, a few years. Right. But to not even tell someone that they're getting the job or not Oh, yeah. For for that long a time, it's insane.
[00:27:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Part of this also is that people will know what part of the process they are in.
[00:27:24] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So apparently, it's good. You wouldn't know before.
[00:27:29] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So you do have that where it's merit based and everything like that. Yeah. But then it also does streamline. It makes the process easier and everything like that. So Okay. There's that. So so I think that's That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:44] Jamon Fries:
And that's that that is one of the things that you really need a business executive to come in and do stuff like that because
[00:27:51] Jesse Fries:
politicians would never have thought of that. Nope. Nope. Government works slowly, and they're happy with it. So yep. So businessmen are not happy with slow. Let's see. What else here? Then we have ending radical and wasteful government DEI programs and preferencing. So that just gets rid of the DEI stuff, the DEIA stuff, and also environmental justice programs. It gets rid of environmental justice as well. So Okay. If you know what environmental justice is, do you? Not really. Okay. So environmental justice, it it's the idea that, the environment is worse generally for people that are poor.
And in many cases, this, because a lot of blacks are poor or Latinos and everything like that, a lot of it is affected by that because of the places that they can afford to buy. A lot of times when you buy a house, if you're barely any making money, you may have to move to that factory that is pumping out crap out of its tail pipe. Also, a lot of times when a city will get, like, a grant for like trees or something like that. They always planted in the rich neighborhoods of the town, not the poor neighborhoods of the town. So basically, so environmental justice is just trying to even that out.
So that the trees get planted everywhere. That sort of thing. Yep. That's that's more yeah. Trying to make the environmental choices even across the board is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's what it is. Okay. Okay. Yep. Then we have the defending women from gender ideology, extremism, and restoring biological truth to the federal government.
[00:29:46] Jamon Fries:
Yes.
[00:29:48] Jesse Fries:
I strongly agree with that one. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, now there are everything is now based on sex at birth, and that is either male or female. Mhmm. Gender, this is a quote from a gender identity reflects a fully internal and subjective sense of self disconnected from biological reality and sex and existing on an infinite continuum that does not provide a meaningful basis for identification and cannot be recognized as a replacement for sex. So it's basically a gender identity is just it means nothing. Yes. If if it can be an infinite continuum, it really doesn't mean anything is what, the executive order is. Oh, yeah. So Yeah. It it if if gender is as fluid as they say it is,
[00:30:34] Jamon Fries:
where you can switch to a new gender every 5 days if you want to, that's not something that the government can track or control or anything else like that. So the government has to go with biology.
[00:30:47] Jesse Fries:
Yep. From what I understand, gender sense. Yeah. From what I understand, gender, the term itself, I actually came around in, like, 19 sixties. It just it doesn't actually mean sex. That's why they can write but in our heads, like in most people's heads, it means the same thing. And so that's where we get confused. But then it actually doesn't necessarily mean, like your sex, you know, it's, it gets confusing. It really does. But, yeah, so so if but once the next Democrat comes around, they'll change this back. So we know how that goes. Yeah, just being back and forth and back and forth. Let's see here. Then, there's the one establishing, the Doge department.
So department of government efficiency.
[00:31:36] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Which Rama Swamy is no longer part of.
[00:31:41] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Because he was too friendly to the h one b's. Is that what it was? That's what I hear. Yeah.
[00:31:49] Jamon Fries:
He I heard that there was disagreement between Musk and him. Oh, good. I I know I know he's decided to, run for the governor of Ohio now. Okay. And so that was his official reasoning for dropping out was because he he wanted to run for governor of Ohio, and he couldn't do that as part of.
[00:32:08] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Well, to quote the kids, that's Ohio. Yep. See, I'm with it. Let's see here. After that, there's the America First policy directive, to the secretary of state. That's exactly what it says. The the everything is in the headline there. It's, so the secretary of state in all matters foreign policy wise, it has to be America first. 100% Yeah. First. That's it. Yep. Let's see here. Then we have protecting the United States from for its foreign terrorists and other national security and public safety threats. This is this is along the same lines of stating that they're, the cartels and whatnot, MS 13 are terrorists.
But this ensures depth, in-depth background checks are done. And if and if a certain country cannot do it, and we don't trust that they have good background checks, we will just bar all aliens from that country from coming in. I see. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Yep. Yeah. So if we don't trust you as a government, you just can't come in. We can't Yep. Because we can't prove who you are or anything like that. You can't prove that you're safe Yeah. For the United States. Yep. Then we have the unleashing Alaska's extraordinary resource potential. This is just opening up, Alaska's resource. Reserves again. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. It also reviews the native land that, the fed took into trust under Biden.
I don't know why the fed did that. Uh-huh. Just leave it to the natives is what I say, but, you know, and then Yeah.
[00:34:01] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's weird.
[00:34:02] Jesse Fries:
Right? And then it ensures that hunting and fishing will not be affected and that, that it will that hunting and fishing will align with state law.
[00:34:11] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:34:13] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Then we are protecting American people from invasion. This sets up a new task force, federal Homeland Security Task Force, and it is their objective to end the presence of criminal cartels, foreign gangs, transnational criminal organizations throughout the United States, dismantle cross border human smuggling and trafficking networks and the scourge of human smuggling and trafficking with a particular focus on such offenses, including children, and ensure that all of the use of all available law enforcement tools is faithfully executed. Faithfully execute the immigration laws of the United States. So, yeah, it sets up detention facilities for, to remove aliens.
And it also allows Homeland Security to actually allow local and state Leos, to act as immigration officials. Yep. And it also encourages aliens to leave willingly. So if you wanna leave, we'll just let you leave. Just go. So there's a bit of Yeah. Which means I think we can, the homeland security can say, okay. We have a little benefit for you to go. If you go willingly, here's the we'll pay for you to go or something like that. I don't know exactly what. Yeah. Yeah. It also cuts the funding to NGOs helping illegals. So that's good.
Good. Stops all public benefits going to illegals, so illegals cannot get any public benefits. That's like food stamps Good. Things like that. Yeah. And it removes document requirements. So to send you back, you don't need a passport. We can just send you back. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see here. Then we have the organization for economic cooperation. Basically, this is there was a global tax deal. Do you remember hearing about that? No, I don't. Basically, Biden, got us into this whole thing where it said that we will ensure that everybody pays at least a certain amount of tax based off of a global level that everybody in the globe should pay for.
It's What? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:26] Jamon Fries:
So he so he was trying to tax to link our tax system into a global world order tax system?
[00:36:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So that the the global system could actually tell us how much our rich or our people have to pay. And and just so you know, basically, all of us are rich in comparison to much of the world. Yeah. Everybody in the United States is just saying so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he got us out of that. So there's that. Thank God. Right. Let's see here. Then we have one that sets up the Security Council, how it works, National Security Council. He stopped all foreign aid, for a period of time, to make sure it aligns with what we want.
Yeah. Makes sense. He says that states many times, let's see. A lot of times, the varying aid can actually lead to instability in the world, he says. So that's why he's ended that. So Yep.
[00:37:26] Jamon Fries:
Let's see. Oh, yeah. I mean, there there have been times where we're giving aid to both sides of a of a argument, both sides of a war sometimes even. Yeah.
[00:37:37] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. Declare your national emergency for energy. Yeah. So that allows us just to do whatever we want. Gets rid of a lot of regulations, things like that. Restoring economy for career senior executives. So this one, this one is what a lot of people are actually pissed off about, especially in the federal government. This one right here states that, senior executive, officials who engage in unauthorized disclosure of executive branch deliberations violate the constitutional rights of Americans, refuse to implement party, policy priorities, or perform their duties inefficiently or negligently should be held accountable.
So basically, if you're not doing what the president wants you to do, you can be canned is basically what it's saying. And this is what a lot of government people are pissed off about.
[00:38:30] Jamon Fries:
Yeah, but at the same time, I mean, the, you know, the, the one thing that I've, the one thing I, I know is that, so you have 3 branches of government. Right. The executive branch is an executive branch. It's essentially run just like a businesses. It should be. Yep. And if in a biz in the business world, if an employee is not doing what the owner wants him to do, he's not gonna have a job. And for 4 years, Trump is the owner.
[00:39:06] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that's a good way to think about it. Also, constitutionally, only the president is giving these powers, and then he can delegate. But only he has these powers. So if somebody under him is not doing what he wants them to do, then they need to go. Play it simple. It's just simple basic math. It's not math, but, you know, whatever.
[00:39:29] Jamon Fries:
It's just logic.
[00:39:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It is. It it it it that's all it is. That is all it is. So Yep. Yep. Let's see here. Then promoting beautiful civic architecture. You you know Trump? Big beautiful buildings.
[00:39:46] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yep. Absolutely.
[00:39:48] Jesse Fries:
That that that's all he wants. He wants people to be proud of the government buildings. That's at least how I Makes sense? Yep. Yep. Yep. He brought back the death penalty. So there's that. And let's see here. Reversal. Yeah. So, yeah. Brought back to death penalty. And with that, he also was a different one. But in it also, he said something like every capital, crime needs to have the death penalty on it. He he said that for the prosecutors, the prosecutors always have to go for the maximum. That is what he said. So so if, you you're killing, if it's a capital offense, well, guess what? It's a capital crime. That means death penalties on the line. So
[00:40:41] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I
[00:40:42] Jesse Fries:
can't argue against it. Yep. Yep. Then you have the putting people over fish. So there's that one. Basically, that was, you know, how Californians, redirected water or not California's
[00:40:56] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yes. Nuisance for the they had to redirect water because there was an endangered fish species Yeah. The smell. Along the line. Yeah. The smell. Yeah. The smell. Yeah. He's saying he he's stopping that.
[00:41:08] Jesse Fries:
So, he well, as much as he can. You know? So he's trying to Right. Get that all done.
[00:41:14] Jamon Fries:
But see, then there's Essentially essentially, he's saying we don't wanna we don't wanna make a portion of our population starve and have to leave their houses because of an animal.
[00:41:29] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That's basically what he's saying. That is basically what he's saying. I see. Then there's the securing our borders. Once again, more border stuff. Yep. So basically, he wants to make the entire border federally operationally controlled. So,
[00:41:48] Jamon Fries:
yeah, this is It's about damn time as far as I'm concerned.
[00:41:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So he wants to build a wall and, then make it so that you detain, arrest, prosecute everybody. Mhmm. This is also the one that got rid of the, border patrol one app. Where they were signing up for interviews for refugee and everything like that. And then you saw the stories of people crying because well, they showed up on the day he became president thinking they would actually be there. So I don't you know, I feel for them. Because they thought they they but then again, you know, but I understand I understand their plight. You know, they're trying to get in and they thought that they had a route in and then well, that route turned to dust is, basically what happened. Yeah. So
[00:42:36] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Basically. Yeah.
[00:42:38] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Then we have the protecting the meaning and value of American citizenship. This one is also another con contested one. This is the one where he This is the ending ending the Birthright. Citizenship by birth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is, trying to get rid of the birthright citizenship.
[00:42:55] Jamon Fries:
This one is I've actually looked into that one a little bit. Uh-huh. What you got on that? And, you know, I at first, I was like, no. You can't do that. The 14th amendment says that you're a citizen at birth.
[00:43:09] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. But
[00:43:11] Jamon Fries:
then I actually read the 14th amendment.
[00:43:14] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:43:18] Jamon Fries:
And in a way, it kind of doesn't say that. It says that that as long as you're here and are, I can't remember the exact term for it. But Subject subject to the jurisdiction to the jurisdiction thereof. So what Trump is arguing is that if if you're not here with our permission, you are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Therefore, we can we can deny the birth the birthright citizenship.
[00:43:53] Jesse Fries:
Actually, it goes further than that. Yeah. Just so you know. It it it I I read it. I I this is from it. So it's, this is what who would not be, who would not be come a citizen right off the bat. So straight from the executive order, United States citizenship shall does not automatically extend to the persons born in the United States. 1, when the person's mother was unlawfully present in the United States, and the father was not a US citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of the said person's birth. Then it's the second one that really changes things. It also says that or when that person's mother's presence in the United States at the time of said person's birth was lawfully but temporary here in the United States.
These things such as, but not limited to visiting the United States under the auspices of a visa waiver program or visiting on a student work or tourist visa.
[00:45:00] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:45:01] Jesse Fries:
So so or the father was not a US citizen or lawful permanent resident of the said Right. Person's birth. Right. But yeah. So if you just cut you so this you can't do the tourist baby sort of thing
[00:45:14] Jamon Fries:
is what this is saying. Which used to be a big thing to do. Oh, huge. Huge. I
[00:45:21] Jesse Fries:
my wife is friends with somebody that did that for, I think her oldest kid, flew into Florida to have the kid, and then Yep. Flew back to Nigeria. Yeah. It's like it's like, okay. You know? But does he know that he has to in order to get his passport, he'll have to pay back taxes? Does he know this? He'll he'll he'll have once he turns 18, he'll have to file all taxes back once if he wants a passport. Oh, wow. Yeah. Or even I never thought of that. Or even entry into the United States because Yep. It is by law that American citizens have to file their taxes.
The US taxes. Yep. Yep. Even if you don't pay, you have to file.
[00:46:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. I I'm technically breaking the law with that. I haven't I haven't filed taxes in so long.
[00:46:21] Jesse Fries:
Right. But if if you're under a certain level, you don't have to pay taxes. Right. Yeah. No. I've So None of my income is taxable. So Right. Right. There's absolutely no point in me if you even file it. No. Right. Right. Right. But if you're overseas, you should just file because otherwise, they will say, well, we don't have this on file. So Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. So I found that interesting because especially since, my my wife's cousin, she's Kenyan. And then her husband is French. And when I think pretty much all of their kids were born, maybe just the first two, but I per this, hopefully, it's not retroactive.
But for this, they would not be citizens because they were born while they were only here on a work visa. They okay, since then they have gotten green cards. So if that was the case, the kids would have green cards now. But that would be Yes. Yep. So that that that that's a weird
[00:47:28] Jamon Fries:
situation. I I doubt if it's retroactive, but I can't I I mean, it's just whenever you find from my understanding of it, it's, it goes into effect as of 30 days from the signing. So anyone that's born 30 days from the signing of the of the executive order will will have to will be adhered to the order.
[00:47:47] Jesse Fries:
Or is it when you apply for federal papers? I don't know. Yeah. I have no idea. I don't know. Yeah. So it's a iffy thing. I I I don't know. Yeah. It's a and I I I really don't know how I feel about that one. I'm kinda good. This seems a bit much, but, you know, what can you do?
[00:48:07] Jamon Fries:
It it seems a bit much, but at the same time, you know, the from what I understand, the main reason that he did that he even thought about putting this into into position to play was because there are so many people that come here illegally and think that as soon as their child is born here because their child is a US citizen, that gives them the right to stay here no matter what. Right. Right. No. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't, actually. No. It doesn't.
[00:48:34] Jesse Fries:
The US citizen, once they turn 18, I believe, maybe 21, then they can apply to have their parents get a green. Yes. Yes. But only once they're a functioning adult can they do this. They can't do this as a child. And just because you have a US citizenship, your parents could be kicked out. And if you wanna stay with your parents, well, you may have to go with them. Otherwise, you become a ward of the state. It's just because your parents abandoned you.
[00:49:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah, that that that's that that was one thing that I found really funny when they were talking to the, person who's become the head of ICE and stuff like that. Uh-huh. They they were like, well, this is gonna tear families apart. And he's like, no. It won't. The kids will just have to go home with them. Yep. Yep. Yep. I I mean, it it doesn't have to tear the family apart.
[00:49:27] Jesse Fries:
I know. I know. But it's so sad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm using the sound effect. Okay.
[00:49:43] Jamon Fries:
Is that the first time in the show we've used the sound effect? Or Possibly. Possibly. Yeah. Pretty damn close to it if not.
[00:49:51] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It is. Okay. Let's see here. Okay, then, then after that one, there's reliance United States refugee admission program. Basically, this stops all refugees from coming in for Okay. Temporary amount of time, but also allows local and state officials to have a say in where refugees are placed.
[00:50:13] Jamon Fries:
Makes sense. So yeah. This is, like, the whole Springfield, Ohio thing and everything like that. Yeah. So you so you won't have a town that suddenly doubles in size because refugees are dreamt on them are dumped on them. Unless if they want them. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Which makes sense because, you know, a lot of small towns and stuff like that, they just don't have the infrastructure to handle a larger population.
[00:50:36] Jesse Fries:
True. True. Yeah. And some need it because they don't have their towns are pretty much gone. Yeah. And they need people to come in and, save the town. Yeah. Yep. Completely. Completely. Then we have the unleashing American energy. This stops the EV car mandate. It stops subsidies for them. And then it also states that we need to become a top producer of rare earth elements. So it's not just about energy. It's actually about the things that actually make up the batteries and all the things that we actually need for EVs and things like that. Right. To actually mine them here, so we are not reliant on China because China is the big boy right now. And so is, like, some places in Africa and whatnot.
[00:51:24] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I also I also read something that's saying that, Trump was was looking at opening the, the oceans for for mining for rare for rare elements.
[00:51:35] Jesse Fries:
And Yeah. One surprising. Yeah.
[00:51:38] Jamon Fries:
A lot of people are gonna be up in arms about that because, you know, the they say the ecosystem down there is so much more fragile than it is up up here on the on land. So we can't do anything that might disturb it.
[00:51:49] Jesse Fries:
Except put up windmills that kill whales. You know, we can do that.
[00:51:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:51:54] Jesse Fries:
But that's okay. We don't need the whales. No. No. He he also took care of that, though, too. I'm not sure if it was this one or the other one. But, also, this one also lets us buy the light bulbs, the dishwashers, washing machines, gas stoves, water heaters, and toilets, and shower heads that we want.
[00:52:10] Jamon Fries:
God bless it. Oh, we don't have to we don't have to limit it's not limited to the how much water flows through every
[00:52:18] Jesse Fries:
that's what it's saying. That's how I'm reading it. That means we can you can buy something without having to take out that water restrictor in your shower heads because, you know, everybody does. Right? You know? We want fresh air. Yep. Yep. Yep. It also allows the permitting of interstate pipelines. So where is that?
[00:52:39] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:52:42] Jesse Fries:
Also eliminates the social cost of carbon calculation. Apparently, the EPA was using this thing called social cost of carbon to determine whether or not something was good for the environment or not. So it goes into define what the social cost of carbon is, but it seems kinda weird and stupid. So, yeah, there's that. Yeah. And that is very stupid. Yeah. And then it stops all funding of the inflation reduction act that is basically the green new deal. Anything that's part that that is, like, the green new deal just stops all that. Mhmm.
Then we have the clarifying the military's role in protecting the territorial integrity of the United States.
[00:53:25] Jamon Fries:
This is just allows them to be on the border. Correct? Yep. This allows,
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
and orders, Northcom to actually set up a mission to seal our borders. So Okay. And, let's see. It says maintain the sovereignty, territorial integrity, and security of the United States by repelling forms of invasion, including unlawful mass migration, narcotics trafficking, human smuggling, and trafficking and other criminal activities. Let's see here. Should we take a break from this and
[00:53:57] Jamon Fries:
tackle other things? Because it seems to be getting long. Yeah. Sure. We we've been on this for about an hour now. So, yeah, we we can take a break on it for a little bit. Yeah.
[00:54:05] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Let's see here. Oh, funny thing. GM, you know, General Motors? Yep. So they they they signed a deal with the FTC for selling people's data without their knowledge.
[00:54:19] Jamon Fries:
Right.
[00:54:22] Jesse Fries:
And what they've done is actually they have a total ban on sharing data for 5 years. So they cannot share data with anybody, for 5 years.
[00:54:32] Jamon Fries:
Nice. Yeah. Nice.
[00:54:34] Jesse Fries:
And GM also pledged to obtain affirmative consent by the owners to collect or use data for the next 2 decades. So that was going to do for 2 decades, basically. 5 years, they just can't do it at all. Yeah. After that, they can ask for permission, to collect data and everything like that. So
[00:55:00] Jamon Fries:
I see. Personally, I think that everyone should have to ask permission to collect that data and and sell it.
[00:55:07] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Yes. I I personally, I think so too. I think so too. I I I've always found the idea that businesses, especially especially when you it's like, it's not its core business is not my data. It's not like Google. Yes. Right? Yeah. Its core business is selling me a product. Yes. Stop there. Do not Yeah. Sell my data. If you need my data for whatever service you're offering me, fine. But don't sell my data. That's my data. You don't need another stream of income. If you're not making enough off of these vehicles that you're charging exorbitant rates on Yes.
You're you you have a bad business model.
[00:55:50] Jamon Fries:
Yes. There's there's there's an essential flaw in your business model. Absolutely.
[00:55:55] Jesse Fries:
Yes. I am not your business model. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that. But on the good news, business models, oh, one last thing. One last thing. Sorry. That was a good segue. But, just on a good news side of for GM, they beat out Ford for best truck number 1 truck selling in the US this year.
[00:56:20] Jamon Fries:
That's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now GM, and speaking of speaking of business models Uh-huh. There do you hear about the, the new beer company that's out? No. Ultra right? What? And it's the first anti woke beer company. They are going hard and heavy on on, on ad on their, advertising and stuff like that to the conservative people.
[00:56:52] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. But is the beer good? That
[00:56:55] Jamon Fries:
to me, that's what it is. I I don't know. I have seen I have seen so many reviews of this company. But just on this article that was written about them, the the reason the article was written is because they're they're using MAGA babes. They they're they're creating a MAGA babes calendar.
[00:57:12] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay.
[00:57:15] Jamon Fries:
But every single review I've read tells me that they have a massive massive issue when it comes to their, their product and how much they make. Because there there's people that are waiting, like, 3 months after placing an order for the beer that haven't gotten their beer yet. So their shtick made everybody run to them, and now they can't Yes. And they they didn't have the infrastructure for their supply line built up at in order to handle it all.
[00:57:37] Jesse Fries:
Well,
[00:57:45] Jamon Fries:
infrastructure for their supply line built up at the in order to handle it all.
[00:57:49] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Because beer companies grow slowly.
[00:57:55] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:57:56] Jesse Fries:
And the and it gets to the point where some of them to actually grow further, they actually have to get into a partnership or sell part of their business to one of the big boys. Yes. Absolutely.
[00:58:08] Jamon Fries:
Because it it it's like This was this was probably just a couple of people doing a small microbrewery. Right. And, essentially, word got out about them. And, you know, they're they're putting Trump's face up on cans and stuff like that. They've got a they've got one can that has him doing the fight, fight, fight thing. Right. Right. And, yeah, they just blew up.
[00:58:29] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Wow.
[00:58:34] Jamon Fries:
But, I mean, you know, that that that's the that's the business model they chose was to go that ultra right, you know, the the hard right wing stance rather than going with the wokeness and everything that a lot of the companies did. And the response to it has been insane.
[00:58:50] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. People like, the non woke stuff. It's Yeah. People on the right and some on the center, they really love the whole, idea of getting rid of woke. So Yeah. It's Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's a good shtick, but, yeah, apparently, they it was too big for them.
[00:59:11] Jamon Fries:
So They definitely did not have this the inventory supply in order to handle what what they what came. They they probably thought they you know? And and I can I can just imagine them sitting there thinking, you know, we we'll we'll maybe double our sales with this?
[00:59:25] Jesse Fries:
Yep. And then their sales were increased by, like, a 1000 times. Yeah. And then they just can't handle it. They just can't handle it. Yep. Yep.
[00:59:36] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. So even if you have a good idea, you gotta be prepared for the consequences of it because, they can be they can be massive. Just the fact that people have had to wait for over 3 months for their beer to to show up could put this company out of business.
[00:59:50] Jesse Fries:
Oh, completely. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. If you can't back up your orders or anything like that, yeah. Sorry, dude. Yep.
[00:59:56] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[01:00:02] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Let's see what else we got here.
[01:00:08] Jamon Fries:
Well, let's jump into science. You seem to have found a lot of stuff about science
[01:00:14] Jesse Fries:
studies and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's see here. Oh, there's a fact checking one. I like that one. Basically, it was, like, trying to see if fact checking actually works or not. But, you know, it's like, oh, we fact check Trump. They don't fact check. Yeah. But they fact check Trump and everything like that.
[01:00:32] Jamon Fries:
Right.
[01:00:33] Jesse Fries:
And what it comes down to is that fact checking does not help when it comes to polarized topics because people will just believe what they believe in. Of course not. Yeah. It doesn't help at all. There is a quote in there. It says, the way, oh, this is talking about, the social comments, you know, how you can comment on something instead of fact checking. Right. Right. It says, the way it's been implemented at x, actually doesn't work very well. He points to the analysis done last year that found that community notes on x were often added to problematic posts too late to reduce engagement because they came after false claims had already spread widely. Well, see see see, this is part of the problem. They think that you actually have to stop these problematic posts. No. It's a discourse.
[01:01:26] Jamon Fries:
Well, that Not not not only that, but just the premise of what they're saying is that, you know, it came too late because these false these false statements were getting through. But what makes them false statements? Is it so, I mean, is it something factual that you can look at and say, no. This is not what the you know, if if somebody puts a statement up there, 1 +1 equals 3, then, yes, you can do a fact check on that. But if somebody puts a statement up there saying that the that the economic model of the Republicans versus the economic model of the Democrats is better the the economic model of the demick of Republicans is better, you can't fact check that because half of the world disagrees with you.
Yep. There is no facts there.
[01:02:19] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely no facts. Yep. Yep.
[01:02:24] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So 90% of the fact checks out there are just load of crap anyways. So I mean, you know Oh, they really are. They really are. Yeah.
[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Now oh, also, looks like so remember how I think like last time or the time before that I talked about how there's like no dark energy anymore, possibly? Yes. Yeah. So so just just the other day, there were some other scientists that came up with this whole thing saying that the universe is expanding faster than physics can explain. And so this is due evidence to deepens cosmic crisis. I'm going, didn't you read that other paper, dude? Didn't you read that one that kinda explains that it's a whole timely, wobbly, gobbly gook like doctor who sort of thing where if there's no mass, if time goes, either faster or slower and can actually add 1,000,000,000 of years. It could be a difference of 1,000,000,000 of years after all this time.
So Damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, what I'm saying is scientists aren't always on the same page. You know? So we have these physicists over here that say we're in a crisis, then you have these other over here saying, I think we kinda figured out the crisis even though there was no crisis because the crisis didn't develop until later. So basically, you could do one of 2 things in life, you can either do your own like elementary research. So you can like, look at articles and stuff like that of other people. Or you can just accept the opinions of whoever gives it to you. That's it.
Those are your 2 options. Yeah. Because you're not a real scientist yourself, you're not gonna get into the you're not actually gonna do studies and everything like that. But you could look at the studies and try to come up with something, you know, and this includes all scientific things. This includes climate change, COVID vaccine stuff, and the list goes on and on. Just do your own research. And that research could just be looking at other research. And that's better than nothing at all. Or you can just bow down and, take doctor Fauci's word on it even though he committed a crime or, you know, he said that he did because he took a pardon, maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.
I I think I think we can factor that if he accepted it. I'm not sure if he actually accepted it, but I know he said he was happy about it. So maybe he did. I don't know.
[01:04:55] Jamon Fries:
I I believe he did. Yeah. Mhmm. He has he hasn't said anything saying he's not going to anyways.
[01:05:00] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right. But that doesn't mean that he did. So
[01:05:03] Jamon Fries:
Alright. Yeah.
[01:05:05] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. That's absolutely true. Yeah. So there's that. Let's see here. And then I have one. I'll I'll save those other 2, for the and oh, there was that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's other one. Apparently, a glass of milk a day keeps coral erector cancer away. So what you can do is they say alcohol can give you core or lack or colorectal cancer, and so can meat and everything like that. So, basically, as long as you drink milk, you know, it just evens out.
[01:05:40] Jamon Fries:
Yep. It's Makes sense?
[01:05:43] Jesse Fries:
Well, I I don't know if it evens out. People have a balanced diet and go on with life. That's what I say. Yes. Plain and simple. Yes. Absolutely. Yep. Is what you should do. So
[01:05:57] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. I mean, it makes sense that milk could be good for you because, I mean, it's good for you. So
[01:06:05] Jesse Fries:
You would think so. You would think so. Yeah. Yeah. And you would also think that here at the Mindless Mayandere, we are a value for value model podcast. So if you could help donate some money or time or talent or anything to us, please, let us know. My email is jesse@mindlessc.com, and Jamis here is jamen@mindlessmeandrians.com. At any amount would help, dollar, a penny, $300, $5, anything will help. And, we're having fun doing this. So, help us out and have some fun with us.
[01:06:40] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely.
[01:06:43] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Then we also have Hamas. You know, there's a Hamas deal, so we got that. Yep. Yep.
[01:06:49] Jamon Fries:
I saw I saw an article on that not too long ago talking about, how how with the ever since the, ceasefire now, Hamas has really, really gone strong and is is in strong has has basically the entire Gaza firmly in their hands now. And so the article is like, so how long is it gonna be? How You know, is is this ceasefire going to be permanent? And I'm like, well, the Hamas is there, so, no, it's not gonna be permanent. Yeah. No. It won't be permanent. Hamas doesn't want it. They don't well, they want it so they can recoup, and then they can attack again. That that's that's that's how Hamas works. Yeah. They've proven this is how they work time and time again. So They they do it over and over and over and over. I mean, it it'll probably be a few months, and they'll start seeing missiles flying across the flying over the over indoor is into Israel again.
[01:07:41] Jesse Fries:
Well, they may have to wait until Trump's out, just because nobody Maybe not have the money for it. Yeah. Yeah. And nobody really wants to mess with Trump. I nobody really does. They really don't know what he will do. And but they also know that he's willing to deal. Yes. So so so so it's so it's not just the threat. It's also like, okay, there's the threat. But if you want a deal, maybe we can work something out as well. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. What? Three people have been released, by Hamas?
[01:08:13] Jamon Fries:
Yes. They were given a Israeli released, what, 90?
[01:08:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Something like that. They were given a care package and everything like that and a Hamas necklace and, yeah.
[01:08:25] Jamon Fries:
Seriously? They were there on vacation.
[01:08:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. They got a freaking Hamas gift bag, dude.
[01:08:30] Jamon Fries:
Wow. Wow.
[01:08:33] Jesse Fries:
Right?
[01:08:34] Jamon Fries:
Is that like that? That would be that would be being burnt as soon as I cross the border.
[01:08:39] Jesse Fries:
Something. Something. Yeah. I thought that was kinda odd. I thought that was kinda odd. Yeah.
[01:08:45] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. You you give gift bags after good events, after vacations, after something positive happened. Right. Not after you've been held prisoner for a few years. Yeah. I thought that was rather odd. I really did. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
[01:09:06] Jesse Fries:
And apparently, Denmark is opening up back channel talks with Trump. They don't wanna actually talk out in the public
[01:09:15] Jamon Fries:
because Trump Of course not. One.
[01:09:18] Jesse Fries:
But I I've seen TikToks of of people in Greenland going they ask him, who do you wanna be part of? Denmark or US? And they would say, US. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I saw this one guy. He goes, I want a McDonald's. Give me a McDonald's.
[01:09:40] Jamon Fries:
Man, that that's that's that's yeah. That's special.
[01:09:44] Jesse Fries:
Isn't it, though? Isn't it? Yeah. Let's see here. Then we have, the SpaceX Starship, blowing up.
[01:09:56] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I hadn't heard about that before before you, before I read that. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the big one, the new one.
[01:10:04] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It blew up over, I think, Turks and Caicos. The the the imagery of it is stunningly beautiful, dude. It's just the the stream of, debris coming down, but it is actually quite striking and beautiful to see. But, yeah, they had to divert planes and everything like that because it was just falling out of the sky. Well, yeah. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. They they they caught the booster, the first stage booster, but then the rest just blew up. And Musk sent out, like, a tweet or something like that. It was like, or whatever they call it. I still call it tweet. But he said, well, now go, we don't always win, but it's always entertaining.
You know? So it's,
[01:10:50] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. And I think that's one of the things that I really like about SpaceX is that, you know, they're they don't try to hide their failures that often. Yep. You know, they're they're very often very blatant about any any failure that they have.
[01:11:08] Jesse Fries:
And I I really respect that of them. No. So do I. So do I. You you you one thing about Musk, you know, especially with the whole Nazi salute, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Roman salute, I've seen some people saying instead. Or or in to me, he he's got what the what used to be classified as Asperger's. He's socially awkward, so he's gonna do socially awkward things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I I've never none of his rhetoric is that bad in my book. Especially No. When you consider, like like, come on. Hitler told you he hated Jews. He literally said, I hate Jews. I want them all to die. Yes. Yes. Mein Kampf said this. He said this. Yep. It's just Yep. No. We there there are Nazis that still say that here today, but that's not Trump and that's not Musk. You know, they they, you know, so he made an awkward thing. You know, it's, you know, that's how I view it. I I know. I saw this meme saying that the far left, goes, oh, he did a Nazi salute, and they were all sad and they're being angry. The center is going, well, you need to know the context. It's all about the context.
And then you had the far right good. He did a Nazi salute. Yay. So so so the far right in the far left both agree that he did a Nazi salute. It's just one side is not happy about it. And then the other side is happy about it. It is hilarious. It's it's yeah. Life is
[01:12:50] Jamon Fries:
entertaining to say the least. It never really is. Yes. Yeah. You never really is. Gonna bring. So
[01:12:57] Jesse Fries:
but yeah. But you never nobody has ever brought up that he's just socially awkward.
[01:13:03] Jamon Fries:
I I actually did see that in in one in one article that was talking about it. They did actually talk about the fact that, he has, that he's partially autistic and stuff like that. Yeah. And it it the social awkwardness could just I mean, he did what they what they think he was trying to do, because during that during the speech at the time, he was talking about giving his heart and stuff like that to you. And he's they're like, all he was doing was was was doing a a motion that would be like grabbing the heart and throwing it out to the crowd. Yeah. It was a very stilted motion too. It wasn't
[01:13:42] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like just a smooth Nazi salute. You know? Right. Yeah. It was just this weird It was it was kinda like
[01:13:51] Jamon Fries:
he starts the motion. He's like, okay. This might not be what I want it to be, but I'm going but I've started it. I'm doing it anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's
[01:14:04] Jesse Fries:
I don't know. I I as with everything, people are gonna say he's a Nazi or not a Nazi, just depending on what they wanna believe. And, you know, fine, dandy.
[01:14:17] Jamon Fries:
But Well, you know, the the one thing that I'm the one thing that I'm kinda surprised about is nobody's brought up the fact that he is a south that he's from South Africa with the apartheid and all that. You know? I'm really surprised that nobody's brought any of that into it yet. Well, that was apartheid. That wasn't Nazis. So, you know Well, no. I I know that. But, I mean, you know, there there are there are some very small similarities in in how they treated the people and stuff like that. Yes. Yes. I I I agree. I agree.
[01:14:47] Jesse Fries:
Not as bad as Nazis, though.
[01:14:49] Jamon Fries:
Oh, no. No. Not not nearly as bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[01:14:55] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. What else do we got? Was I going somewhere with that?
[01:15:01] Jamon Fries:
I don't know.
[01:15:03] Jesse Fries:
I don't know either. Oh, there was a funny thing. I saw you have a thing, a nuclear startup deep fission plants Yes. To butt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So so what is that? And then I have a funny thing to say about nuclear.
[01:15:16] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So, essentially, what that is is this, you remember a few episodes ago, I was talking about, about how the federal government and stuff like that, they were trying to get people to produce, small nuclear efficient nuclear fusion reactors so that you could Yeah. So that you could, like, send it to Mars and stuff like that to power stuff and everything else like that. Yeah. Well, there's a company now that has developed one. It's one of the only ones that's been officially developed and accepted by the federal government now that and what they're planning on doing is for, like, the data centers and stuff like that. Uh-huh. They're going to bury a reactor about a mile below ground to power those centers.
[01:16:02] Jesse Fries:
That's really interesting.
[01:16:04] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That was pretty cool. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, if you extrapolate even further, you could be like, okay. So there's this small community out in the middle of nowhere that has to pay so much for electricity simply because of how far to what how far it is away from anything. Right. You bow you bury one of these small nuclear fission plants underneath, you know, in about a mile down somewhere near the city near that little town, and it's got cheap power. Because the the the price for this power is only, like, 7¢ per kilowatt hour. Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad at all. Yeah. That's, like, half of what the what a what a what a regular nuclear power plant would charge. Yeah. Yeah. No. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to me. So, I mean, you you you get you get places out in the middle of nowhere where they have to where where they have to want run those electric lines for miles upon miles just to get to you. Yep. Energy out there is so much more expensive. So if they were to if they could bury these things nearby, they suddenly have a very good power source that's cheap.
[01:17:10] Jesse Fries:
And wouldn't be reliant on the transmission lines. So that's Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Makes perfect sense. Love it. That is pretty cool. Yep. Yeah. I like nuclear technology. It's, pretty cool. Absolutely. Yes. Let's see here. Oh, looks like, we're gonna need our well, they say so. They, we're gonna need our real ID to fly, you know, so that's the whole thing where they have a star on your, license driver's license. Yeah. Yeah. They they keep talking about this. But, you know, I don't know. This has been going on for, like, 15 years. They say we're gonna need it. And then they delay it again.
And this time, every time they say we'll delay it one more time. And then that's it. Well Yeah. Apparently, May 7th is the last time, supposedly. We'll see. We'll see. I don't believe it. Yep.
[01:18:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I mean, the you know, it it's I don't really understand the need for the real ID because, I mean, it's only I don't it's only operatable here in the US. It's not like it acts as your passport or anything like that. You still have to get a passport.
[01:18:23] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. I mean Well, it's it's it's solely for, to make sure that the person is who they say, and all the information is shared with the feds on those real ideas. Right. The the which yeah. What and so it's facial recognition. So all those pictures are sent to the Fed. So all our Fed all our pictures, the Fed has. And so nowadays, you you don't fly. But when you go to the airport, you don't need to show anything. You just Really? Yeah. You don't have to show anything. You just facial wreck, and it knows what flight you're on. You just go through security.
[01:19:01] Jamon Fries:
That that that's what you're all about. Yeah. Yeah. So this I have heard people commenting about that saying that it was a horrible thing, you know, that that you need to that you should, refuse to stand in front of that camera that does the facial wreck. And I'm like, why?
[01:19:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's I mean,
[01:19:19] Jamon Fries:
it it It's, like, one of those things where it has no downside.
[01:19:23] Jesse Fries:
Right. And I I I understand the idea of wanting to do that, but also, dude, you're old. Get over it and move on with life. Yes.
[01:19:35] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Absolutely.
[01:19:37] Jesse Fries:
It's it's like, I know it's messed up. I know we're not comfortable with it. I'm not even comfortable with it fully, you know? Yeah. But there just comes a time where you just have to live with life as it is, you know? Yep. Before World War 1, I don't think you even needed a passport to travel around the world. So
[01:19:59] Jamon Fries:
I'm probably
[01:20:00] Jesse Fries:
not. Yeah. But I think after World War 1, that is when everything came about and everything like that, where you need a passport. Okay. Before that, if you're rich, you could go anywhere you want it. Now, if you're from a certain country, you need a visa to get wherever you want. You know? It's like, is that really fair? You know? It's yeah. So
[01:20:21] Jamon Fries:
I I I found it so hilarious. I I ran into one article that was talking this was a long time ago that I ran into this, talking about Real ID and how you can how, you know, people were people didn't know that they had Real ID or not. Right. Right. And I'm like, how can you not know if you have real ID when in order to get real ID, you have to bring your birth certificate when you're getting your driver's license? Yeah. I know. If you brought your birth certificate, you have a real ID. I mean, that's just the way it is. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[01:20:57] Jesse Fries:
Well, let let's I mean, it it makes sense, though. Yeah. It does. It does. Let let let's just talk about some of these other, important executive decisions before we end off here quick. Okay. One of my favorites is, the memorandum to resolve the backlog of, no. No. Not that one. Which one was it? Energy, America First National Emergency on the southern border was 1. Oh, this would hold in former government officials accountable for election interference and improper disclosure of sensitive government information. This one, yeah, one of my favorites here, it strips 50 people of their security clearances.
Which actually hits them in the pocketbook, because a lot of these people, absolutely, yes, they they get inside knowledge and then they go on the TV onto MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, whatnot. And then they are paid by those networks to actually be a go between
[01:22:03] Jamon Fries:
This so this really hits people on the bottom of the book. Or they get they get hired by companies like BlackRock or, Boeing and stuff like that to act as the go between between the government and them because they still have their government clearance. I personally believe that everyone should lose their government clearance as long as the second they're out of the government.
[01:22:26] Jesse Fries:
It it can't happen that way. Just for the simple reason of if you're part of like the military complex, if you work with the government, but aren't government, you need a security clearance. It's like, my cousin, our cousin, he works for like, Northrop or something like that. And he works on military stuff.
[01:22:54] Jamon Fries:
You know, he used to be really I didn't know that he was working for a company like Northrop.
[01:22:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I think it might be Northrop. I don't remember exactly, what it is. But he's working. I can go into details later. Yeah. But he's working for a company that where he needs that security clearance, and he has like one of the best security clearances on the planet.
[01:23:16] Jamon Fries:
Like, well, yeah. I mean, so so yeah, it's considering what he did when he was in the military. Yes.
[01:23:23] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely. So so so yeah, but it's because of that, that he can have this job. So you do need it for if you're not necessarily working for the government. But if you're not working with the government, I could see it as well. Maybe if you work before or with the government to get rid of it. You know? But What I think
[01:23:45] Jamon Fries:
how I think it should come down to it is when when you leave your position in the government that requires your secure security clearance, If you're moving to another company that requires security clearance, you should, your your security clearance should at least be reduced to what the to what that company's requirements are. You know, you don't need somebody that has has the you know, you don't need, like, an navy seal that goes to work for somebody for some company as a defense, you know, a defense contractor.
[01:24:19] Jesse Fries:
They don't need the same security clearance. No. I understand that. But it it also it's like so so the it's basically just like, like, top secret or whatever. But basically, the within that, there's also different things you can know about. You don't you you don't have clearance. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Just because you have top secret clearance or anything like that. So it it goes with that. But I I love How I first how I go ahead. No. Go.
[01:24:47] Jamon Fries:
Okay. What what I personally would do is if I were in a position to determine any of this inform any of this stuff, which, of course, I'm not, is I would require them to fill out an application for the security clearance and then use that application. And instead of actually doing a security clearance, just transfer the security clearance over to that. That way, you no longer have access to the information that you used to have access to. Right. You don't need that inform if you don't need that information for your job because there's so many times now where, you know, somebody you you talk to, like, CIA people, like, the CIA people. They go to a new job, and they still hold all the old old security clearances that they had, which means that they can see basically everything that CIA has.
They don't need to be able to see that stuff.
[01:25:34] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. They they can lapse. You can they can actually get old. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Matter or anything like that. But yeah. To to to me, when it comes to this, I I just love that all this is basically just in retaliation for lying about the Hunter Biden laptop thing. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Yeah. It's like well, because all these people except for Bolton, they they all said and signed of things saying that, oh, yeah. No. This is, Russian Yep. Disinformation and everything like that. So this is basically saying, guys, you lied. Plain and simple. And and some of the big boys, this this is like James Clapper. He's on TV quite a lot. Leon Panetta. You know, John Bolton. You know, these are some pretty hefty guys. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:26:17] Jamon Fries:
These are these are people that because of what they did have gone quite far in the public world. Yes. Yes. So then you have John Bolton who basically he wrote a book that really dissed Trump
[01:26:27] Jesse Fries:
And where he, Trump says that he spilled information he wasn't supposed to. And that is why security clearance was rejected on him. So yeah, it's Yep. Yeah, you shouldn't that whole 100 Biden laptop thing that was such a lie. Yeah. I mean, like that. But let's see here. Beyond that real quick, anything else? Oh, we got out of the WHO. So there's that. Yeah. But that's but that's only a money thing. Did you know that? Yes.
[01:26:52] Jamon Fries:
It's only because it's That makes sense. Yeah. We have to pay, like, 500 pay 1 5th of we we pay 1 of everything that that I mean, we we fund about a about a 5th of everything that they do from what I read.
[01:27:09] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Hold on. I just Your sound just got really messed up. Yeah. Yeah. Things get Okay. Is that better?
[01:27:23] Jamon Fries:
No. No. It's not. No. No. No. I don't know what happened. It sounds kinda sounds kinda like you're in an echo chamber again.
[01:27:40] Jesse Fries:
That is weird. Okay. Well, we're pretty much towards the end anyways. Yeah. With that, thank you for joining us for episode number 21 of the Mindless Meandering podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.
[01:27:51] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:27:53] Jesse Fries:
And you guys have a great day.
Introduction
Biden's Last Day Pardons
Trump's Pardons and Legal Implications
Executive Orders Overview
General Motors and Data Privacy
Science and Fact-Checking
Hamas and International Politics
Nuclear Energy Innovations
Real ID and Security Clearances
Conclusion and Farewell