Join us while we meander through politics, AI, economics, and a racist boulder.
Hosted by:
- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:20) Introduction
(00:02:18) Politics and Polls
(00:06:21) Gambling
(00:12:34) Music and Political Campaigns
(00:16:34) Animal and Plant Oddities
(00:20:48) FEMA and Disaster Response
(00:26:00) Government and Subscription Services
(00:29:00) Space Exploration Updates
(00:36:29) Energy Innovations
(00:39:56) AI in Nuclear Fusion
(00:45:00) AI in Medicine
(00:49:52) Gaza Economy and Historical Comparisons
(00:57:00) China's Economic and Social Shifts
(01:05:15) It's a lovely boulder.
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Jesse Fries:
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, October 23rd, and we are live with episode number 8 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas where we're suing the federal government. Isn't that fun?
[00:00:35] Jamon Fries:
Oh, nice. I'm Javan Friese, and I'm coming then I'm coming from you coming to you from, Eastern Kansas where the Kansas City Chiefs are still the only undefeated NFL team. Nice. Nice. Can't wait for moves. Not gonna happen. They're going undefeated for the year. Yeah. Maybe. I thought it happened, but highly highly unlikely, but Yeah. But they might. It would be awesome. It would be awesome. Well, I just,
[00:01:04] Jesse Fries:
I I know I lived up there, but, you know, I I the Kansas City Chiefs, there there is something on Facebook. They're quite annoying. So me and Carol have started to root against them whenever we can. So it's,
[00:01:15] Jamon Fries:
well, you know, every ever since last year with the whole Taylor Swift thing going on, I mean, you you can't it it's like they're everywhere. Yep. You you can't not hear about the Kansas City Chiefs. Almost every almost every commercial that has football players in it has the Kansas City Chief in it.
[00:01:37] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. And it would only make sense because, well, it's Kansas City. So even down here though, it's it's like the state farm ads, with Mahomes. They're everywhere.
[00:01:47] Jamon Fries:
Everywhere. With the with the coach, Mahomes, sometimes they'll have, sometimes they'll have, Kelsey in there.
[00:01:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Exactly.
[00:02:00] Jamon Fries:
And now now the, head and shoulder commercials.
[00:02:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Is that Kelsey or who is it? No. That's Mahomes. That's Mahomes? Okay. I always get that confused. I think I've see I I don't haven't seen too many of those. But, anyways, let's let's see. On to politics. Let's do cover politics real quick. I don't have much, but it's basically just the polls. It looks like, Kamala Harris overall national poll is up, by, like, 1.1, possibly, but it depends on the poll. Some polls show Trump up. Yeah. And then when it comes to, like, battlegrounds and everything like that, it looks like Trump's in the lead, by 1.1%.
Somehow both are of my 1.1%. This is on the real clearest politics. So
[00:02:50] Jamon Fries:
Okay. I I was I was watching, one video yesterday that was talking about the polls and what he what he did is he took every single poll that's been done within, like, the last week Right. And he averaged them out to to try to figure out, you know, who who is most likely gonna win a state. Yep. And according to the according to those poll according to him, Trump was gonna pull out 4 out of 5 4 or 5 out of all of the swing states. Yep. Yep. Yep. Which which means Trump Trump wins. I mean, basically.
[00:03:27] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No. They can pull that off. That's what Real Clear Politics does. They do poll averages. They take all the polls and then you just average those out. Okay. And that's where the 1.1% plus or, comes in for those things. But yeah.
[00:03:44] Jamon Fries:
And, you know, I've I've heard people say that now that, betting on our elections is legal for some reason. People are saying that that the that the betting pool is a lot is a lot more accurate than polls are because real money's on it. Right. Right. Most of the betting pools have Trump at, like, 63% and and Harris at, like, 35 or something like that. Yeah. This is the betting average is 60.9
[00:04:13] Jesse Fries:
for Trump and 37.6 for Harris is what it's saying. Yeah. So Yeah. Who knows, though? Who knows?
[00:04:23] Jamon Fries:
I I can't you know, it was bad enough that you were betting on sports, but now you're even betting on who's gonna win an election.
[00:04:31] Jesse Fries:
What the hell? Yeah. No. The sports even it's kinda ridiculous. Now they're like that's practically all the ads now, and the commentators are talking about that as well. And it's like, guys, why
[00:04:44] Jamon Fries:
I understand it's done, but And and, you know, well, I mean, I I unders I I understand that all these states that allow the gambling want to have the income from gambling. Right. Right. But who is it that's doing the gambling? The people that can afford to. Yep. Exactly. Which means that you were poor before, you're gonna be even poorer now. Now that you're putting oh, now that you're putting sports into it, I mean, it was bad enough going to your bookies to to bet on sports. Yep. Now all you have to do is pull up your phone, and you can place a decent sized bet.
I mean, that that's it's I don't know. I I hate gambling. I always have.
[00:05:33] Jesse Fries:
Well, then you at least you don't have to worry about it for yourself. You know? It's,
[00:05:38] Jamon Fries:
but yeah. I I do gamble from time to time, but I hate gambling. I I can understand that. I can understand that. Lottery, whatnot. I I do that every so often. Well, I mean, when when I was when I was driving over the road, I used to go in through Vegas or something like that. I'd pull in and I'd drop, you know, $50 into a into the slot machines or whatever, but I'd only walk in with that $50. I wouldn't have my credit card with me. I wouldn't have any other cash with me. So I just spent money that I could afford to spend. Mhmm. And, you know, 90% of the time, I walked out with more than 50, but there were times where I walked out with nothing.
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that.
[00:06:21] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Beyond that in politics, there's some Trump McDonald's thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:30] Jamon Fries:
No. My my favorite my favorite politics thing right now though is you you you heard the story about, about Walls with his with the,
[00:06:42] Jesse Fries:
when he was a coach and his interactions with some of his players and stuff. Yeah. I I I've heard I've seen the headlines. I really don't pay attention to that sort of thing. But yeah. Yeah. Well,
[00:06:54] Jamon Fries:
now according to the intelligence agencies, which, of course, we can all trust Right. Exactly. That's a Russian hoax, a Russian propaganda. My god. This is like the 5th time they've said it's a Russian propaganda. Exactly. Get Exactly. 3 at least yet Exactly. 3 at least 3 of those times, it's proven to been true. The Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, if you're gonna blame if you're gonna at least they should blame somebody else if they're trying to draw draw attention from the story.
[00:07:31] Jesse Fries:
Well, they don't wanna piss off China. So I know. They don't wanna piss off China. So they they go to that small little aspect of Russia that will send a funny story over and, fuck with us. You know, you know, it's, yeah, no, it's really exist. But it's, I think it's really gotten to the point where it's like that and fact checking. I don't think anybody that supports Trump or is even in the middle even believes any of that crap. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. You can't. Ridiculous. It's Yeah. It's like, what's a fact check? Okay. So, what was it? The most recent one, where he Trump was fact checked about the crime rate when he said it's going up. And, the moderator, he he he fact checked him and goes, no. It's going down. Yep. And now the FBI rereleased the updated the figures, and it's going up now? Yeah. It's like Yep. Yep.
[00:08:23] Jamon Fries:
There's no such thing as Or or the fact checks about his statements about how there's good people on both sides. Right. How there's change now? The fact the fact checks, they all said, yes. He said that. There's good people on both sides. Uh-huh. But if you listen to everything that he said, he keeps saying, except for the neo Nazis, except for the white supremacists. No. He's a Except for BLM, except for Antifa. But then also throw those people out. There are good people on both sides.
[00:09:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But then even Snopes, talking about fact checking, snopes.com that said that he did say that and then later they've changed it now. So you know, even some fact checking is coming back to where that even though they still use it and everything like that the left does. But even the fact checking is changed it. So Yeah. But let's see here. You can't trust any of it. Nope. Nope. And then what is it? The Rolling Stone, their headline was Trump's closing pitch to voters. I will let you die if you don't bow to my demands. You
[00:09:34] Jamon Fries:
know, it's just What the fuck?
[00:09:40] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So gotta love that headline.
[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:
Well, it's like I that was, I heard something about, all of the superstars now that are going out to Kamala Harris's, rallies and stuff. Yeah. Like, you know Shaw going out there. You got Eminem going out there. You got all these people going out there. And from what I heard, it's not that these people support her. Uh-huh. It's that she's brought in so much money. She's paying them a shitload to go to her rallies.
[00:10:18] Jesse Fries:
That's interesting. I haven't heard that one, but I wouldn't Yeah. I wouldn't doubt it. There were there were,
[00:10:26] Jamon Fries:
according to what the to what one guy was saying, I can't remember who it was for the life YouTube videos that I came across. He was saying that, that there's been a couple of of, people, mostly black, musicians that have come out saying, yeah. She offered us a lot of money, but it just wasn't worth this vote for us. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. But they they think they think that she's doing this to get the black to get the black males to vote for her again. But are black males usually Usher fans? I thought Usher fans were typically women.
[00:11:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, he's R and B. So they they they Yeah. I I I would say there's enough that like him because it's good music. Usher has good music. So it's
[00:11:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's not the C1 level. Not not my cup of tea, but
[00:11:21] Jesse Fries:
Well, I like him. You know, it's, yeah. It's just good R and B. Just pop. It's what it is. Yeah. So I've always been more a fan of metal. So Yeah. Yeah. I understand that. I understand that. But, yeah, it's it's whether or not it's music is such a personal thing. You know? If you say one is for this and one is for that, I I always find that to be Yep. Stupid, really, because there's there's just no such thing. Yep.
[00:11:53] Jamon Fries:
Well, I don't know. If if they brought Michael Buble up, you know, that that might be a little bit of a problem.
[00:11:59] Jesse Fries:
Michael Buble. No. The the the women love Michael Buble, you know, and my wife Yeah. But it wouldn't bring too much male wouldn't bring too much male
[00:12:09] Jamon Fries:
No. No. Viewership to
[00:12:12] Jesse Fries:
him. No. It's the way it seems to be going is pretty soon the Democrats will just be women, and, Republicans will just be men. Yep. With a few stragglers here or there. You know? It's kinda funny how it works. Yep. Well, let's see here. What else we got here?
[00:12:37] Jamon Fries:
Oh, just put anything else on. No. I don't have anything politics
[00:12:41] Jesse Fries:
either. Okay. I found a weird thing that the that was just discovered in the National Geographic. They have actually figured out, you know, Anaconda, right, The huge anaconda in South America? Apparently, there's actually 2 types of anacondas. They look pretty much exactly the same. Yeah. They look apparently exactly the same, but and they live in 2 different areas. But they are so different, like, on the DNA level that they don't breed with each other. Oh, wow. And the difference in DNA is 5%. It's a 5% DNA difference in between the two types of anacondas.
Okay. Humans and chimps have a 3% difference in our DNA.
[00:13:29] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:13:30] Jesse Fries:
But they have a 5%. So a huge pretty big difference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, one of them, both of them are co green
[00:13:43] Jamon Fries:
uh-huh. Do they cohabitate in the same areas, or are they in different areas too? Well, there is some overlap.
[00:13:49] Jesse Fries:
But in general Okay. There's one basically in Brazil. Mhmm. And then the other one is up in, like, Venezuela, Colombia Oh, okay. Okay. Ecuador.
[00:14:01] Jamon Fries:
Kinda coming down. It's not a it's not a huge difference in
[00:14:05] Jesse Fries:
in area coverage. No. No. They're not like they're not like other sides of the world or something like that. So No. No. They they they actually overlap along the Amazon river is where they overlap. So Okay. Yeah. But they basically have this everything else is the same. It's kind of weird. It's like they both grow to like 30 feet, weigh about £550. It's, there's like no difference in between these people in between these reptiles. It's just it's just 2 different types that don't enter breed and have a huge variance in DNA. That's cool. That is very cool. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:14:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Talking about animals, you know, you really gotta watch out for them. Swordfish now. Surfers gotta we got surfers gotta beware.
[00:14:54] Jesse Fries:
Really?
[00:14:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. There's this, lady, Italian lady. She was surfing in Indonesia.
[00:15:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:15:08] Jamon Fries:
And a swordfish jumped up out of the water and impaled her. Ouch. Is she alive or did she die? No. No. It it killed her. It hit her lungs, and they couldn't get her to the they couldn't get her to the hospital fast enough. And so it was like the Aussie that, that guy on TV, whatever his I forgot what his name was, who got hit by a stingray. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yep. I remember that. Yeah. Oh, I I always loved watching his shows too. Yep. Yep. Yep. They he was very entertaining. Yeah. He was. He was. He he definitely knew how to he definitely knew how to keep people entertained while talking about just wildlife, which is very awesome.
[00:15:51] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. Yeah.
[00:15:54] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. No. She she was, she had she had been surfing for quite a while. She was, a professional snowboarder for a while. Mhmm. And, yeah, they they, her and her friend her and her friend started up a company where they would tour basically all over the world to and bring bring people along to surf there. And on one of on one of her on her late on her last trip, yeah, a swordfish just jumped out of the water and right into her chest.
[00:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Woah. That's just crazy. That is just crazy. I know. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
[00:16:34] Jamon Fries:
Let's see. It's amazing what can happen when you're dealing with animals.
[00:16:38] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Animals are crazy. Even plants can be crazy. Apparently, when it comes to, cannabis, people who use high potency cannabis, that's with THC levels of 10% or more, If they use it daily, they are 5 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder.
[00:17:02] Jamon Fries:
That doesn't surprise me that much.
[00:17:05] Jesse Fries:
It really doesn't, but that's, like, huge. You know, that's
[00:17:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:11] Jesse Fries:
And a lot of times You know, it's it's a safe drug. It it has no side effects. There's nothing wrong with smoking it. Exactly. And that's just, like, 10% THC. You can get stuff up to 90%. THC. It's, like,
[00:17:27] Jamon Fries:
yeah. And they even try to figure
[00:17:30] Jesse Fries:
out, like, differences between, like, with tobacco and whatnot. And it's it's just yeah. It's cannabis that's causing this thing. Yep. But then if it's never used and you can't study it, there's no way to know exactly what its detriments are. And so because of that, it's become this thing that's it's okay. It's no harm. You know? That's how we think about it. Yeah.
[00:17:53] Jamon Fries:
That's how we think about pretty much everything. I mean, you know, anytime something comes out that's not well, the you know, cannabis was has always been used in in fairly extreme amounts, but it was never legal. So you couldn't really study it too much without drawing attention to it and stuff.
[00:18:15] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Plus, like, the pot from when we were kids, well, it was a lot more powerful than the original pot from, like, the sixties and seventies. Oh, yeah. But Yeah. Even in so it's, like, sixties seventies, the hippies that really got it going, you know, it was, it was barely anything. And then then to our generation where it was it was
[00:18:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The the pot in the sixties was almost was like ditch weed compared to to the stuff we've got now. No. Exactly.
[00:18:44] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. So yeah. So yeah. Be careful with that stuff. It's basically what I am saying. Yeah. Good thing I don't touch that stuff. Yeah. Either do I. Neither do I. One one one of these days I might use. Like, when I'm
[00:19:00] Jamon Fries:
really, really old and I know it won't really affect anything, I'll probably do it. I I I have in the past. Uh-huh. When I was working at, at Alorica, I did. Okay. Mhmm. From time to time. But, you know, basically, everyone in that building did. So
[00:19:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Probably so. Me and Carol didn't, but, yeah, more than likely. Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't be surprising.
[00:19:37] Jamon Fries:
And then coming back in smelling a pot. I mean, it was That's funny. That's funny.
[00:19:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:46] Jamon Fries:
We had a very, very lax work atmosphere there for some reason.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
I I don't know why. Yeah. I don't know why.
[00:19:56] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. But yeah. No. So it was I used it a few times, but honestly, alcohol was so much better. Yeah. That's how I figure it too. I I've yeah. I mean, it was I I never got a high out of it. I never really the the there was only one time that I attempted to drive Uh-huh. After I'd smoked a joint. And I didn't like what it did to me, so I never touched it again after that. No. I could see that. I need to see that. It may it may to me, it made it look like the headlights of other vehicles were much further away than they actually were. Oh, that's not right. Which is very problematic when you're driving.
[00:20:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No kidding. I'm not kidding.
[00:20:48] Jamon Fries:
Driving at night is not a good thing to do.
[00:20:51] Jesse Fries:
It really isn't. It's also not good to it's also good to have a or not good not to have accurate maps. Apparently, the Helene issue, you know, all the flooding in the mountains, it was due to, the FEMA using outdated insurance rate maps. They were obsolete and antiquated. And so they were FEMA was giving out bad information to insurers and everybody about the safety of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was another thing from the National Geographic. So
[00:21:30] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I you know, I I FEMA has never been a perfect entity. It's always had its problems. Well, completely. Nothing is. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, I I've never seen the size of ineptitude Mhmm. Out of out of FEMA that that I that you saw with with this with Helene.
[00:22:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, Katrina was horrible too, though.
[00:22:02] Jamon Fries:
Katrina was Katrina was horrible. But, I mean, Katrina the the benefit that FEMA had with Katrina was that it was very isolated. It was only the city of New Orleans, you know, whereas with with Helene, it's like 3 states. It's 3 it's 3 decent sized states that that were severely impacted by it. And so you've got the you've got the ineptitude of FEMA that you saw in in Katrina. Mhmm. But then you multiply that over a lot larger land area. Right. And it just it just gets worse. It just appears worse and worse and worse. Oh, yeah. I could see that. I could see that.
But, yeah. No. I mean, there's I I have always thought, and it it didn't really come into my mind until until I started hearing about, you know, the different things that were happening with Helena with Helene, where any there are so many private organizations that just on a snap of a finger, they had supplies there. They had equipment there. They had people there. They were repairing roads, you know, within a couple of days and stuff like that. And that's just private individuals and companies that just brought everything in. It didn't they didn't take, like, a week to ramp up to to start, you know, getting things together.
With with with Katrina, it took them quite a while it took FEMA quite a while to start getting the, the all the housing situation take taken care of with the Mhmm. With their with their, trailers and stuff. I mean Yep. Yep. Yep. It took forever to get those trailers to New Orleans for that. That is true. That is true. Yeah. You know, and when you've got companies from all the way across the country that can within a few days have a major presence across the entire area that was affected by Helene Mhmm. I mean, it just it just doesn't really make sense to leave that up to 100% government control.
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it it solves the question though of you need it's better to have just one point of
[00:24:31] Jesse Fries:
authority versus many points of authority.
[00:24:35] Jamon Fries:
This is generally the argument.
[00:24:37] Jesse Fries:
No, that's generally the argument. Yeah. I I more than likely, they they will study this as they always study, and then they'll do nothing about it. Yeah. Exactly. How government works.
[00:24:51] Jamon Fries:
What what I would what I would love to see happen would be, for example, you have you have FEMA. I mean, I FEMA is insanely important. Right. You need to have the government entity that is in control of, that is in control of trying to centralize the aid that's being sent out. Mhmm. Because otherwise, you know, you'll get some areas where get where they get way too much stuff and you'll get other areas that don't get nearly enough. So you do need some some form of coordination there. But I don't think FEMA should be the end all be all where when it comes to actually supplying everything.
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. You know, if if Yeah. If private organizations and and the nonprofits, if they coordinated with FEMA If if it if FEMA were just a coordination group instead of the entire rescue effort group. Right. I think that it would I think that it would improve the situation quite a bit. Yeah. That's an interesting thought.
[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. On a different level, looks like the government is is doing something maybe good. Apparently, they're making it easier to cancel your subscriptions. So, to to to the point where you can just can't like, go online and cancel instead of having to call to cancel or something like that. So that'll be nice. That'll be nice. I always hate those ones. Oh, you need to call. It's like, why do I have to call? Come on. Just make it easy for me. Yeah. It's, I understand the business side because they want to, like, sell me more stuff or give me a discount and everything like that. Yeah. But and, you know, just make it easy for myself, because even you if you do that, if you make it easy, you could still go through all those steps of, well, how about this deal, that deal? So it's a couple more clicks, but still, just make it easy. I don't wanna talk to people. I'm sorry. It's I don't wanna call on the phone and have them try to sell me. It's like, oh, no. I'm gonna say no. Plain and simple, I'm gonna say no. Yeah. So just let me go, you know, without your Yep. Whatever it is.
[00:27:03] Jamon Fries:
Well, what's interesting about that is, you know, I I just recently heard that had heard that they wanted to do that as well. But, about a month ago, I started seeing advertisements on TV about this company that, I can't remember the name of it. It's, basically, it's an app on the phone where the where you can track all of the subscriptions that you're paying that you're paying for. Mhmm. And through that app, you can go and you can cancel all of those subscriptions.
[00:27:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's I think it's a Rocket thing.
[00:27:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. I yeah. So the government comes out and announces that they're doing it about a month after the after the rocket app says we can do this. It's something just hasn't quite gotten up there. That that is kind of funny. That is rather
[00:27:59] Jesse Fries:
funny. The government's going, well, let's just do this because, it can be done already.
[00:28:05] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's funny. If if they if they made it so that there would if the next thing they'll do is they sell they'll say, you know, we're we're making it so you can cancel everything at one site. You know, basically they're just going to create another rocket, but it'll be free instead of having to pay a monthly subscription for rocket or whatever. Yeah. I I if you have to, I don't even know if you have to. Yeah. I I don't know if you have to or not either. So but I mean, it I just I I find it so comical that it's already been done, and now the government says comes out and says, we're gonna do this for you.
[00:28:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That is funny. Okay. So what what else you got?
[00:28:56] Jamon Fries:
Well, most of what I have is AI related. Okay. I got some of that. As well as a few other things. But before I get into that, you know, my biggest dream has always been space. Right. That that's like the biggest thing for me. Okay. And there there's a couple things that that are very interesting that I've run across. Uh-huh. You know, Starship, the the, Starship 5 launch that happened not too long ago where they caught the rocket. Yep. Yep. Well, there the FAA has already announced that the earliest that the next starship may be able to launch is November 11th.
[00:29:45] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Mom's birthday. There you go. That works. That's
[00:29:49] Jamon Fries:
really but I mean, going from 5 to 6 in less than a month? Yeah. Yeah. That that is if if they can pull off what they wanna do with with Starship, that is very impressive. No. It is. From what I've heard from what I've heard starting with 6, there may even be a possibility that they'll try to use the the chopsticks to the maxilla arms to actually catch the, the shuttle as well.
[00:30:19] Jesse Fries:
The the capsule, you mean?
[00:30:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:30:22] Jesse Fries:
But okay. I didn't know that there there was a had a rocket on the back of it. Yeah. That's it. It So it's not like the Apollo 11 sorta capsule?
[00:30:35] Jamon Fries:
No. No. In fact, it's not a capsule at all, really. It's the, it's the stage 2 of the of the rocket. It it it it does a burn to complete to get itself completely into orbit. Oh, okay. And then and then it, control burn to come back down. And so they're they're they're talking, the plan eventually is to catch both the stage 1 and the shuttle.
[00:31:04] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:31:05] Jamon Fries:
And according to what I've seen from SpaceX, they could make an attempt as early as as mission 6
[00:31:15] Jesse Fries:
That's pretty sweet. To catch both. That is pretty sweet. Yeah. No. Elon Muskie is both.
[00:31:22] Jamon Fries:
But if they can catch both, they are very, very, very close to being able to send up numerous multiple missions real close to each other. Oh, yeah. Completely.
[00:31:33] Jesse Fries:
Completely. That's pretty cool. Speaking of, Elon Musk with that, apparently, the EU is because x, you know, it really isn't making money. And so the EU wants to fine x, but it's not really making money or tax it or something like that. And so now the EU some people there are actually contemplating just finding taking all of, Elon's companies and how much they make and taking that as the revenue of x for the fine. Because the fine would be a percentage of the company's earnings. Yep.
[00:32:21] Jamon Fries:
That makes absolutely no sense.
[00:32:23] Jesse Fries:
It makes complete sense because you if you want money
[00:32:28] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. It doesn't seem legal in my book, but, you know, it's, Well, e even even if you don't think the legality of it Uh-huh. Just the implications of that are massive. Could could you Exactly. Imagine I mean, if I were Elon Musk and that were to happen, I would say, what's that? You wanna use my Falcon 9 to put your shit in space? Exactly. I'm sorry, but you have to now pay me a $100,000,000 more.
[00:32:56] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Exactly. But, yeah, it looks like they're contemplating it. Yeah. So and it was like, you know, it's just crazy.
[00:33:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It really is. Yeah. Going on with, with Elon again, that there's, it's not actually about Elon himself. There's this there's a guy that, used to work for SpaceX. Mhmm. He was and he was involved in the, in basically I think he started with the second with their very site with the very second test launch that they did Okay. Way back at the very beginning. Uh-huh. He helped develop the Grasshopper. He's helped do all sorts of stuff for Elon.
[00:33:45] Jesse Fries:
Oh, nice. And
[00:33:47] Jamon Fries:
as as he was doing all that, he saw something that was problematic with what with what Elon was trying to do. Mhmm. And that was the the problem is is that as of right now, once you go into space Mhmm. So when they go to Mars, the only way to create energy that they have is solar.
[00:34:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Makes sense. But
[00:34:19] Jamon Fries:
in order to the in order to become become a multi planet, species, you have to be able to send a ship to Mars and have that ship return.
[00:34:34] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Yeah.
[00:34:36] Jamon Fries:
And in order to to create enough energy to create the to to restore the fuel and everything for the for the shuttle to return Mhmm. You would need immense amounts of electricity that solar almost cannot even
[00:34:55] Jesse Fries:
possibly create. Right. Right.
[00:34:58] Jamon Fries:
And so what he's what he did is he is he, stepped away from SpaceX and started its own company where they are making portable nuclear power plants. Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. He he was he was thinking about it and then the the military came out and said, we want a portable nuclear power plant that that can that we can fly places so that so we can provide energy where we need it. And they wanted, like, a 1 megaton or something like that. Right. Power supply. And so he so he broke off and he got some funding from the government to start bake to start making that. Mhmm. I don't know how far they've gotten with it, but they have developed completely perfectly isolated nuclear reactors.
They're not 100% safe yet, of course, because, well, with nuclear power, there is no 100% guarantee.
[00:36:02] Jesse Fries:
Well, I heard that they're pretty that they're starting to be deployed. They're pretty damn close. Yeah. So, I heard that Are they starting to be deployed now? The the that's what I heard from our cousin. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh-huh. But I I heard that stuff so yeah. I mean, I
[00:36:18] Jamon Fries:
I I just I just saw that, like, 20 minutes before the show, so I didn't I didn't get to watch finish No. Yeah. The entire interview and stuff. So Yeah. I don't know how far they've gotten, but just I mean because because it's much the ability to yeah. Just the ability to have a portable nuclear reactor.
[00:36:40] Jesse Fries:
It would change every game out there. No. It would. It would. And now exactly, it's like what he was talking about. He was like when he was in the Middle East, with the military, he they would have these huge diesel generators just going and going and going. And, yeah, the nuke would be like, sweet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, with with that one he's like, with with this one nuclear reactor, you put it onto the you put it onto the shuttle that goes over to to Mars. Uh-huh. All you have to do is find water or ice. Mhmm. And with that nuclear reactor, you can actually refuel your
[00:37:26] Jesse Fries:
your shuttle to for its flight back. Yeah. That's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet.
[00:37:31] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So that was pretty cool too.
[00:37:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Let's see here. It looks like some people have figured out how to make, like, not a new type because Benjamin Franklin actually invented the thing or really did it, but static electric, electrical motors. Yeah. So and so instead of using the direct power to turn the turbine, it would just use static charges to twist it. And so basically, the efficiency would be about 80% greater than what we have now. Okay.
[00:38:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That is pretty awesome.
[00:38:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. He he they had to come up with they had to invent some new things, some gels and everything like that. Yeah. But, yeah, they say it would could really, really help. They some Chinese are thinking of, using the same technology in, like, drones. So, basically, you could just throw up a drone in the day, and it would just stay up with this electric motor. Wow. And then, of course, at nighttime, it would have to land. But, yeah, apparently, it's not, like, great for cars. Trying to get into a car could be problematic, apparently. But for, like, industrial purposes, it could really, really help. So Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
[00:38:52] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. That that's pretty awesome. Yep. Yeah. So, did you hear that there's been some advancement in nuclear fusion?
[00:39:03] Jesse Fries:
No.
[00:39:04] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The the biggest problem that that they've had with nuclear fusion is being able to to create a good enough control to keep the to keep the plasma all centered.
[00:39:17] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:39:19] Jamon Fries:
Because there there's there's always the small little breaks and magnetic fields and stuff like that or the Right. Right. Or the the plasma doesn't quite act the way that they want it to all the time. Mhmm. And so they've it it's basically been almost impossible to to continue to keep it running for a long firm for a long term. Okay. I I think the longest that they've ever had it run was a matter of I don't know I don't know if it's even been a minute. I mean so, I mean, not very long at all. Uh-huh. But they started using AI.
Okay. They they they took they brought AI into it, and they ran a test where they they trained the AI solely by showing it previous attempts to to do nuclear fusion. So they didn't they didn't program it with, like, the the knowledge of nuclear fusion or anything like that. It was purely this is what's happened. This was the result, You know, said it learns the re how to react to these things. Okay. And the AI was actually able to warn them, like, 300 nanoseconds or something like that Uh-huh. Before the before the the control before it lost control. Okay. Now this this isn't enough time for a human to make an adjustment Right. Right. Right. But it's more than enough time for an AI to make an adjustment to the magnetic sphere Yep. To to fix that problem. I don't know if they've actually run any tests after that where they actually fixed it. Because in in the tests that I read about, they were they were only testing to see if if it could if it could detect it early.
[00:41:08] Jesse Fries:
No. I I could actually see AI being used for that, like nobody's business. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah.
[00:41:15] Jamon Fries:
Nice. That is pretty cool. Yep. That is pretty cool. So so if if that if they can solve that problem with AI, there aren't too many more problems we have with actually creating nuclear fusion. That
[00:41:30] Jesse Fries:
that'd be pretty sweet, especially as a power source. Yeah. That'd be nice. Yeah. That would be nice.
[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:
Another another energy source that AI is helping with is solar power.
[00:41:41] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:41:43] Jamon Fries:
It actually found a way to increase the energy that solar can provide.
[00:41:52] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:41:53] Jamon Fries:
And it's insane what it came up with. Uh-huh. It uses oh, what is it called? Hapsacin.
[00:42:08] Jesse Fries:
Whatever that is. Which is
[00:42:12] Jamon Fries:
it's the active compound found in chili peppers.
[00:42:15] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Oh, that. Yeah.
[00:42:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So it uses so by inputting that into the solar cells, it improves the solar cells efficiency.
[00:42:28] Jesse Fries:
That's cool.
[00:42:30] Jamon Fries:
Nice. And AI running tests and stuff like that is what came up with that. Uh-huh. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool.
[00:42:39] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. On another AI kind of funny note. So I read these like how to or help columns and everything like that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This this one lady wrote in to it was slate on slate. But, basically, she was talking about her son. And in school, he was given, an assignment to where he was the skin was supposed to select a topic from a preapproved list, and then ask AI to write an essay about it. And then submit and then send the you then basically, he would critique it, and he would fact check the essay, right, to see what he got wrong. Yeah. It seems like a good Yep. Assignment to me. Right? Well, apparently apparently, this mother, thought this was horrible, and she this is what she wrote.
I don't want him doing this assignment. Chat gpt is an ir irreductably sex sexist device that reads and then regurgitates garbage that pushes impressionable young men into misogyny and inseldom. So so apparently now AI turns people into incels.
[00:43:58] Jamon Fries:
Oh, good. I love that. I was like, good.
[00:44:06] Jesse Fries:
What did you read to think that that actually was happening? You you know, it's
[00:44:12] Jamon Fries:
She probably talked talked to g to chat gpt so much that it that it learned from her.
[00:44:19] Jesse Fries:
Ah, something. I don't know. That's like, I have never heard of chat gbt turning people into incels. I have never heard of it. So No.
[00:44:30] Jamon Fries:
Wow. Wow.
[00:44:35] Jesse Fries:
God bless it. Uh-huh. Mhmm. Okay. Here it More into AI. No. Go ahead. No. No. That we can keep that going.
[00:44:46] Jamon Fries:
More into AI. The the very first, medicines that were completely AI driven Uh-huh. Have begun clinical testing in 2023.
[00:44:59] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay.
[00:45:01] Jamon Fries:
So any results yet? I don't think there have been any massive results yet. The the nothing that I've read said that said that whether they passed or not. Okay. But they're what they think could happen with this is that because because it's all done by AI, it's done so much quicker and so much cheaper Okay. To develop this medicine. So they think that it may become more if AI were to to do to create the medicines, they think it would be more cost effective to work on the lesser on on the less on the diseases that affect much less people. So you you you could find you could add because, you know, right now, if it if it's not something that affects, you know, like 100 of thousands of people at the minimum, it's just not cost effective to make the medicine.
And so they're they're they're thinking that if if a with AI, they may actually be able to reduce that number of people down into the 100 maybe even where if it affects more than a 100 people, it becomes cost effective to create to create the medicine.
[00:46:18] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. Interesting. They they they should watch out though because apparently, a Dutch court just said that Bill Gates can be sued over his help with the vaccines for COVID.
[00:46:31] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:46:34] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So, yeah, he tried to get off that. But the Dutch court said, Nope. You can be part of that. You really
[00:46:42] Jamon Fries:
were a factor in it. So, yeah. Yeah. So Yeah.
[00:46:46] Jesse Fries:
Gotta watch out for the yeah. All this stuff. We have to I think we have to be a little bit more cagey when it comes to these new technologies just to make sure that Oh, yeah. They're not messing with us too much. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:46:59] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. I mean, there's there's always possibility. Whenever you're dealing with AI, there's always you always have to be very cautious. Nope. Completely. Any new technology, it's best to be cautious. Yep.
[00:47:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Let's see here. Anything else AI?
[00:47:15] Jamon Fries:
No. I don't have anything else at all, in fact.
[00:47:18] Jesse Fries:
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So they're saying it's gonna take 17.5 generations to get back to pre conflict level on their economy.
[00:49:23] Jamon Fries:
See, if I'm not mistaken, the the the the economy in Gaza pre conflict was horrible. Well, it was, but there was no infrastructure. Everything had been torn up. Everything was well, I mean, everything that that the Israelis had left behind there was destroyed. They they didn't bother even trying to use anything. They just destroyed it all.
[00:49:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. But even then, you know, this is just
[00:49:51] Jamon Fries:
this doesn't make any sense because you look at what
[00:49:54] Jesse Fries:
look at Europe and Japan after World War 2. Germany and Japan were, like, completely destroyed. Millions were dead. You know? And but it took less than a decade to recover to what they were before.
[00:50:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You you you know that To to me to me, that that them saying it's gonna take that long is them saying, look, these people are just fucking stupid. They're not gonna be able to to recover at all. So, you know, basically, they're just saying we're gonna we're we have to give up or we have to do it for them. No. Exactly. Which is it's
[00:50:33] Jesse Fries:
it's stupid because they will get investments, and then they'll rebuild. This is how it works. This is the
[00:50:40] Jamon Fries:
companies love it when the country is mobilized. You know? It's Absolutely. There there are not only that, but there are a lot of Palestinians across the world
[00:50:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That will definitely send help back. Exactly. Most of the world will send some. It it'll be a great investment. And it was, like, the great one of the great economists, Milton Friedman, he said he actually said around, like, at the end of World War 2. He actually said the best way to grow rapidly is to have the country bombarded. So
[00:51:15] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it and and that actually makes a lot of sense because not only not only are you dealing with everything being rubble Uh-huh. But that means that you you have that you start from the infrastructure. Yep. So you you you have free open rein to build the right infrastructure that's needed. And then to build everything on top of that, it's not going to take nearly as long to recover if everything has been bulldozed down. No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:51:45] Jesse Fries:
The only thing that I could see that would cause an issue is, the grudges. These grudges are not Oh, yeah. Anywhere. Yeah. And all it never does is lead to suffering. You know? It it's Yeah. It's like you might hate and despise an enemy, but if you're if everything you have goes into their elimination, you leave nothing for your people.
[00:52:07] Jamon Fries:
You know? And it seems to be that's
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
now don't get me wrong. Israel hasn't been completely nice to the Palestinians or anything like that. Oh, no. No. Absolutely not. But all their money basically went into this last attack. They spent so much money trying to digging tunnels and spending rockets and everything like this, that they Yep. They they forgot the people. You you know, I I know there's they're supported by the people, but going after a blood feud, just all it ever does is hurt your own people. It rarely ever Yeah. Actually hurts the other people.
[00:52:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, like I like I said earlier, you know, when when Israel pulled pulled out of Gaza, they left very good water treatment facilities there. They left very good they they left a good infrastructure there. Mhmm. And what did Hamas do? It took all of those water pipes and turned them into missiles.
[00:53:03] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yep. Yep. I mean,
[00:53:07] Jamon Fries:
it left nothing for any of the Palestinians that were there.
[00:53:12] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. It's really sad when you let a blood for you get like that. You know, it's like It really is. Yeah. You need to look towards the future. You know? Do you want your kids to have a better life? You know? Sometimes you just have to accept what it what is, and Yeah. Let it go. You know? Constantly always trying to get revenge is not gonna Yeah. It's not gonna do anything. At some point, you might win, but is that worth all the lives you've thrown under the bus? You know? It's
[00:53:44] Jamon Fries:
Well, I I don't really I I personally I don't really understand where the blood feud comes from.
[00:53:52] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's just Israel came in, and they were set up by the UN. And, basically, they pushed, kinda forced selling of land and everything like that.
[00:54:04] Jamon Fries:
And then they took the good There there was there was some of there was some of that. Yes. But a lot of the land that Israel took was not usable in any way. No. Yeah. I understand.
[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:
Understand. And then a lot of it is just the Muslim against the law. So
[00:54:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the you know, because the from what I've heard, you know, when when the when the when when the UK announced that they were that they were going to bring is the Israel there, when when they said all of you is let Israelites come come back Right. To go back to go back to Israel. The there were at that point in time, there were still is there there still were Jewish people living in the area. Oh, of course. Yeah. There there were also quite a few Muslims.
[00:54:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:54:57] Jamon Fries:
The the problem that I from what I heard arises from the fact that the UK basically promised the land to 2 different groups. It promised the delay it promised the land to Israel, but then it also promised the land to if I remember correctly, it was one of the, Saudi princes that was basically on the out and out. Mhmm. And that's that's how Jordan came about. Oh, okay. That that that prince was given was given Jordan, but he was expecting to get So so what they did was they they told the the Muslims in Israel to leave for now.
We will take that land back and then you can go back in. And those those were the those were the Palestinians. Okay. Yeah. And so so, basically, it was the other the the other Muslim nations told the Palestinians to leave their land now, and then we will take it back as soon as we can. And you'll be able to move back. Yeah. They they did try to take it. And they they tried. They they tried their best.
[00:56:20] Jesse Fries:
They they they really did, and the Jews won. So, yeah, Israel won. So it's a Yep. Yeah. And so to me, because Israel won, that means, well, that's their land now. That that that's just how I see it.
[00:56:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. That's how the world has worked since the very first tribe fought another tribe
[00:56:41] Jesse Fries:
for a land.
[00:56:42] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. The winner gets the spoils.
[00:56:46] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. That's that's how it works. And then you have to live with that system. But then, you know, it's just yeah. Hopefully, sooner or later, it can just calm down and everybody can just get along. That would be nice.
[00:56:58] Jamon Fries:
Mhmm. But I
[00:57:00] Jesse Fries:
I don't see it happening anytime soon. This blood feud will keep going for a little while. Oh, yeah. But as an aside, while I was looking this up, right, I actually like because I was checking, like, how quickly Japan and Germany recovered after the war. Right? Yeah. And and the one thing I found in there is that, basically, the one thing that actually helped them is that they basically just went free market economy. That is, like Oh, yeah. But but it didn't actually matter, like, what kind of free market economy. It's like Germany, they went more of a regulated and controlled market economy, free market economy.
And then Japan just basically let things go with the economy.
[00:57:46] Jamon Fries:
To the point where like
[00:57:48] Jesse Fries:
Germany, they curtailed monopolies. They made sure monopolies didn't happen and things like that, right? So it was very controlled. So there wasn't this huge competition or anything like that, right? Between massive companies. Japan went the other way. They allowed business groups to form that linked banks, industrialists, and trading companies. And then this allowed them to dominate their competitors, both foreign and domestically. Yeah. It's and they both just their economy recovery is both are termed miracles. Yeah.
It's funny how two different ways of doing a free market economy works. So in my book, you just need a free market economy. You can have pretty much any There's
[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:
another country you can throw in there too. Uh-huh. China. China was was nothing until they until they until they opened up
[00:58:46] Jesse Fries:
their own form of free market. No. No. No. No. Yeah. I think we talked about that last time. Their free market economy. But I was just talking about post World War 2,
[00:58:56] Jamon Fries:
because that one Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:58:58] Jesse Fries:
That one was like nineties. They started opening it up in the nineties after Tiananmen Square. They didn't know they had some issues. And so they started opening up because of that.
[00:59:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The biggest reason that they opened up was, Hong Kong being returned.
[00:59:17] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But they also noticed that the young weren't having it anymore. Yeah. The Tiananmen Square. Yeah. It all went badly for those people protesting, but they did but the government did see that something needed to change. And so a lot of that did help in that process. Talking about the young in China, it's happening again. How so? In fact,
[00:59:39] Jamon Fries:
the there's a new movement now where the young younger generations, they're starting to question whether they even should go to college. There are many of many, many of them are not even getting jobs anymore. Oh, yeah. There there's it's gotten to the point where they are getting paid for acting like children.
[01:00:07] Jesse Fries:
Oh, well, that's weird. They they they
[01:00:10] Jamon Fries:
seriously, they literally what they do is they live with their parents. Mhmm. They will clean up the house. They will do the dishes. They will cook a few meals, and they get paid for doing that. Wow. Wow. That is special. Yeah. That is truly special. I know. A a large a large portion of the a large portion of the, of Chinese youth right now, they're just taking small part time jobs just to make enough to survive. Mhmm. They're because part part of it is because of the work the work. I I would I don't wanna say work ethics or anything like that, but in Mhmm. In China, you go to work at 9 AM Mhmm. And you don't get off work until 9 PM.
[01:01:05] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[01:01:06] Jamon Fries:
That that is how How many days a week? Basically every job works now. 6 days a week. Holy.
[01:01:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna have to change that. Just But but but but, you know, this is this sort of thing. That's how we started as well, our industrial movements and everything like that. Same with Europe and everything like that. We we all started with that with child labor and everything like that. So hopefully, China can change like we did because because, yeah, things need to change. You need to make it easier for people and everything like that. Well, the the biggest the biggest reason the biggest reason that the companies start are doing that
[01:01:52] Jamon Fries:
is because that's what their parents did. That's what their parents did. It's what their parents did. Well, no. Yeah. Yeah. Although it all because, you know, these these they they just the work ethic that those people had was that I want to make as much money as possible to support my family. Well, I I wouldn't say just that. Coming straight out of farms and stuff like that. Well, no. See, that's the thing. They're coming from the agriculture world to where you have to. You don't have any other options. If you wanna eat, you need to work all that time,
[01:02:22] Jesse Fries:
If you wanna eat, you need to work all that time
[01:02:25] Jamon Fries:
to actually put- Yeah, the sun is up, you're working.
[01:02:28] Jesse Fries:
Exactly, exactly. And, but a lot of times that work, it's just like mending this or doing that, mending this bucket. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, things like that. A lot of times it's not actually hard work. Yep. But you are actually always doing things. Over into the workforce.
[01:02:40] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. That that transition over to the companies. Exactly. But on the
[01:02:45] Jesse Fries:
this is right now, they haven't been able to change that. And as I said, Jimmy, this is what they need to make the transition like everybody else did. Yep. Yep. Because if you when you think about it, China, they've been industrial for a while, but not really. Their industry was lax up until just recently the last 20, 30 years. And so they're in the very early stages of the industrial movement and everything like that. And just like we did, it took decades upon decades for us to get the kids out of the mines, out of the factories, and everything like that. Yeah. It it's just this slow it every country has to go through these things. This is my theory. I've had this theory for a while. Oh, yeah. You you have to go through certain economic steps and industrial steps. And I think this is just the next one. And more than likely, as long as they do it right, the party can stay in control, but they can change their economic system to allow for that. Because Yeah.
12 hours a day for 6 days a week, that's not gonna cut it. Oh, yeah. Not at all. People just can't do it. You just can't And one of the focus like that. One of the other one of the other things that they're that they're noticing is that
[01:04:01] Jamon Fries:
because they're spending so much time at work, they're they're not developing the relationships with with the other sex and stuff like that. And this is all, of course, exacerbated by the fact that they had the one child policy and all that. Mhmm. But it up but it's it's it's ended up meaning that people are spending much less money in China now. So the economy is starting to get hit. The these companies are starting to shut down. Mhmm. Plus, not to mention the government think believed that they were that the governments had grown too big and too strong and too had too much influence.
So the government started hitting the tech companies and and the real estate companies and stuff like that. Because, you know, in China, that's the government can basically shut down anything it wants to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep. And so that that led to peep to the younger generation being like, you know, I had this job. I lost it because the government did this. Then I had this job. Again, I lost it because the government had this. Now I wanna go work here, but the government just did something to that, so I can't do that anymore. And they're like, why even bother?
[01:05:13] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. That's how it goes. Well, let's wrap it up with a kind of a funny story. So, the University of Wisconsin, they had to move a boulder. It was a lovely boulder. It was a big boulder. But apparently, it was seen as a symbol of racism.
[01:05:34] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So the boulder, it was emplaced because, for who was it? It was the
[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:
for Thomas Crowder Chamberlain. He was just a, geologist, and he was the former university president.
[01:05:49] Jamon Fries:
Now there's nothing wrong with him. There was nothing wrong with him. He wasn't racist or anything like that. So that's not why they got rid of it.
[01:05:56] Jesse Fries:
Why they got rid of it is that there was a short period of time in the 1920s where large dark rocks, so basically large dark boulders, they they had a bad term. It it was, n word head is what it was. Right? Okay. And so because of that and for this rock, it was called that or referred to it as that one time in a newspaper in 1925. And because of that, the rock had to be moved. So they moved the boulder. They spent $50,000 to move a boulder because
[01:06:42] Jamon Fries:
one time an article. It was called one news article. Oh my god. Yep.
[01:06:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. This was all after the George Floyd. This was, approved after the George Floyd stuff and everything like that. But here, I'm like, it was one time. It it
[01:06:59] Jamon Fries:
it it wasn't It had nothing to do with it it it had absolutely nothing to do with the person that they were honoring with that rock.
[01:07:05] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:07:06] Jamon Fries:
Nothing. It was just one person wrote one article
[01:07:11] Jesse Fries:
Yes. That's been found. Yeah. That said that one word.
[01:07:15] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was it's like taking down a statue.
[01:07:23] Jesse Fries:
Okay. You can make an argument. Things like that. But this, I just don't I just don't get it. But Oh. I thought that was rather funny, though.
[01:07:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolutely. That is that is insane.
[01:07:39] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we are insane. And on that note, I would like to thank you for joining us for episode number 8 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Friese.
[01:07:52] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:07:54] Jesse Fries:
You guys have a great day.
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, October 23rd, and we are live with episode number 8 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas where we're suing the federal government. Isn't that fun?
[00:00:35] Jamon Fries:
Oh, nice. I'm Javan Friese, and I'm coming then I'm coming from you coming to you from, Eastern Kansas where the Kansas City Chiefs are still the only undefeated NFL team. Nice. Nice. Can't wait for moves. Not gonna happen. They're going undefeated for the year. Yeah. Maybe. I thought it happened, but highly highly unlikely, but Yeah. But they might. It would be awesome. It would be awesome. Well, I just,
[00:01:04] Jesse Fries:
I I know I lived up there, but, you know, I I the Kansas City Chiefs, there there is something on Facebook. They're quite annoying. So me and Carol have started to root against them whenever we can. So it's,
[00:01:15] Jamon Fries:
well, you know, every ever since last year with the whole Taylor Swift thing going on, I mean, you you can't it it's like they're everywhere. Yep. You you can't not hear about the Kansas City Chiefs. Almost every almost every commercial that has football players in it has the Kansas City Chief in it.
[00:01:37] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. And it would only make sense because, well, it's Kansas City. So even down here though, it's it's like the state farm ads, with Mahomes. They're everywhere.
[00:01:47] Jamon Fries:
Everywhere. With the with the coach, Mahomes, sometimes they'll have, sometimes they'll have, Kelsey in there.
[00:01:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Exactly.
[00:02:00] Jamon Fries:
And now now the, head and shoulder commercials.
[00:02:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Is that Kelsey or who is it? No. That's Mahomes. That's Mahomes? Okay. I always get that confused. I think I've see I I don't haven't seen too many of those. But, anyways, let's let's see. On to politics. Let's do cover politics real quick. I don't have much, but it's basically just the polls. It looks like, Kamala Harris overall national poll is up, by, like, 1.1, possibly, but it depends on the poll. Some polls show Trump up. Yeah. And then when it comes to, like, battlegrounds and everything like that, it looks like Trump's in the lead, by 1.1%.
Somehow both are of my 1.1%. This is on the real clearest politics. So
[00:02:50] Jamon Fries:
Okay. I I was I was watching, one video yesterday that was talking about the polls and what he what he did is he took every single poll that's been done within, like, the last week Right. And he averaged them out to to try to figure out, you know, who who is most likely gonna win a state. Yep. And according to the according to those poll according to him, Trump was gonna pull out 4 out of 5 4 or 5 out of all of the swing states. Yep. Yep. Yep. Which which means Trump Trump wins. I mean, basically.
[00:03:27] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No. They can pull that off. That's what Real Clear Politics does. They do poll averages. They take all the polls and then you just average those out. Okay. And that's where the 1.1% plus or, comes in for those things. But yeah.
[00:03:44] Jamon Fries:
And, you know, I've I've heard people say that now that, betting on our elections is legal for some reason. People are saying that that the that the betting pool is a lot is a lot more accurate than polls are because real money's on it. Right. Right. Most of the betting pools have Trump at, like, 63% and and Harris at, like, 35 or something like that. Yeah. This is the betting average is 60.9
[00:04:13] Jesse Fries:
for Trump and 37.6 for Harris is what it's saying. Yeah. So Yeah. Who knows, though? Who knows?
[00:04:23] Jamon Fries:
I I can't you know, it was bad enough that you were betting on sports, but now you're even betting on who's gonna win an election.
[00:04:31] Jesse Fries:
What the hell? Yeah. No. The sports even it's kinda ridiculous. Now they're like that's practically all the ads now, and the commentators are talking about that as well. And it's like, guys, why
[00:04:44] Jamon Fries:
I understand it's done, but And and, you know, well, I mean, I I unders I I understand that all these states that allow the gambling want to have the income from gambling. Right. Right. But who is it that's doing the gambling? The people that can afford to. Yep. Exactly. Which means that you were poor before, you're gonna be even poorer now. Now that you're putting oh, now that you're putting sports into it, I mean, it was bad enough going to your bookies to to bet on sports. Yep. Now all you have to do is pull up your phone, and you can place a decent sized bet.
I mean, that that's it's I don't know. I I hate gambling. I always have.
[00:05:33] Jesse Fries:
Well, then you at least you don't have to worry about it for yourself. You know? It's,
[00:05:38] Jamon Fries:
but yeah. I I do gamble from time to time, but I hate gambling. I I can understand that. I can understand that. Lottery, whatnot. I I do that every so often. Well, I mean, when when I was when I was driving over the road, I used to go in through Vegas or something like that. I'd pull in and I'd drop, you know, $50 into a into the slot machines or whatever, but I'd only walk in with that $50. I wouldn't have my credit card with me. I wouldn't have any other cash with me. So I just spent money that I could afford to spend. Mhmm. And, you know, 90% of the time, I walked out with more than 50, but there were times where I walked out with nothing.
Yeah. I could see that. I could see that.
[00:06:21] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Beyond that in politics, there's some Trump McDonald's thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:30] Jamon Fries:
No. My my favorite my favorite politics thing right now though is you you you heard the story about, about Walls with his with the,
[00:06:42] Jesse Fries:
when he was a coach and his interactions with some of his players and stuff. Yeah. I I I've heard I've seen the headlines. I really don't pay attention to that sort of thing. But yeah. Yeah. Well,
[00:06:54] Jamon Fries:
now according to the intelligence agencies, which, of course, we can all trust Right. Exactly. That's a Russian hoax, a Russian propaganda. My god. This is like the 5th time they've said it's a Russian propaganda. Exactly. Get Exactly. 3 at least yet Exactly. 3 at least 3 of those times, it's proven to been true. The Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, if you're gonna blame if you're gonna at least they should blame somebody else if they're trying to draw draw attention from the story.
[00:07:31] Jesse Fries:
Well, they don't wanna piss off China. So I know. They don't wanna piss off China. So they they go to that small little aspect of Russia that will send a funny story over and, fuck with us. You know, you know, it's, yeah, no, it's really exist. But it's, I think it's really gotten to the point where it's like that and fact checking. I don't think anybody that supports Trump or is even in the middle even believes any of that crap. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. You can't. Ridiculous. It's Yeah. It's like, what's a fact check? Okay. So, what was it? The most recent one, where he Trump was fact checked about the crime rate when he said it's going up. And, the moderator, he he he fact checked him and goes, no. It's going down. Yep. And now the FBI rereleased the updated the figures, and it's going up now? Yeah. It's like Yep. Yep.
[00:08:23] Jamon Fries:
There's no such thing as Or or the fact checks about his statements about how there's good people on both sides. Right. How there's change now? The fact the fact checks, they all said, yes. He said that. There's good people on both sides. Uh-huh. But if you listen to everything that he said, he keeps saying, except for the neo Nazis, except for the white supremacists. No. He's a Except for BLM, except for Antifa. But then also throw those people out. There are good people on both sides.
[00:09:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But then even Snopes, talking about fact checking, snopes.com that said that he did say that and then later they've changed it now. So you know, even some fact checking is coming back to where that even though they still use it and everything like that the left does. But even the fact checking is changed it. So Yeah. But let's see here. You can't trust any of it. Nope. Nope. And then what is it? The Rolling Stone, their headline was Trump's closing pitch to voters. I will let you die if you don't bow to my demands. You
[00:09:34] Jamon Fries:
know, it's just What the fuck?
[00:09:40] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So gotta love that headline.
[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:
Well, it's like I that was, I heard something about, all of the superstars now that are going out to Kamala Harris's, rallies and stuff. Yeah. Like, you know Shaw going out there. You got Eminem going out there. You got all these people going out there. And from what I heard, it's not that these people support her. Uh-huh. It's that she's brought in so much money. She's paying them a shitload to go to her rallies.
[00:10:18] Jesse Fries:
That's interesting. I haven't heard that one, but I wouldn't Yeah. I wouldn't doubt it. There were there were,
[00:10:26] Jamon Fries:
according to what the to what one guy was saying, I can't remember who it was for the life YouTube videos that I came across. He was saying that, that there's been a couple of of, people, mostly black, musicians that have come out saying, yeah. She offered us a lot of money, but it just wasn't worth this vote for us. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. But they they think they think that she's doing this to get the black to get the black males to vote for her again. But are black males usually Usher fans? I thought Usher fans were typically women.
[00:11:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, he's R and B. So they they they Yeah. I I I would say there's enough that like him because it's good music. Usher has good music. So it's
[00:11:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's not the C1 level. Not not my cup of tea, but
[00:11:21] Jesse Fries:
Well, I like him. You know, it's, yeah. It's just good R and B. Just pop. It's what it is. Yeah. So I've always been more a fan of metal. So Yeah. Yeah. I understand that. I understand that. But, yeah, it's it's whether or not it's music is such a personal thing. You know? If you say one is for this and one is for that, I I always find that to be Yep. Stupid, really, because there's there's just no such thing. Yep.
[00:11:53] Jamon Fries:
Well, I don't know. If if they brought Michael Buble up, you know, that that might be a little bit of a problem.
[00:11:59] Jesse Fries:
Michael Buble. No. The the the women love Michael Buble, you know, and my wife Yeah. But it wouldn't bring too much male wouldn't bring too much male
[00:12:09] Jamon Fries:
No. No. Viewership to
[00:12:12] Jesse Fries:
him. No. It's the way it seems to be going is pretty soon the Democrats will just be women, and, Republicans will just be men. Yep. With a few stragglers here or there. You know? It's kinda funny how it works. Yep. Well, let's see here. What else we got here?
[00:12:37] Jamon Fries:
Oh, just put anything else on. No. I don't have anything politics
[00:12:41] Jesse Fries:
either. Okay. I found a weird thing that the that was just discovered in the National Geographic. They have actually figured out, you know, Anaconda, right, The huge anaconda in South America? Apparently, there's actually 2 types of anacondas. They look pretty much exactly the same. Yeah. They look apparently exactly the same, but and they live in 2 different areas. But they are so different, like, on the DNA level that they don't breed with each other. Oh, wow. And the difference in DNA is 5%. It's a 5% DNA difference in between the two types of anacondas.
Okay. Humans and chimps have a 3% difference in our DNA.
[00:13:29] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:13:30] Jesse Fries:
But they have a 5%. So a huge pretty big difference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, one of them, both of them are co green
[00:13:43] Jamon Fries:
uh-huh. Do they cohabitate in the same areas, or are they in different areas too? Well, there is some overlap.
[00:13:49] Jesse Fries:
But in general Okay. There's one basically in Brazil. Mhmm. And then the other one is up in, like, Venezuela, Colombia Oh, okay. Okay. Ecuador.
[00:14:01] Jamon Fries:
Kinda coming down. It's not a it's not a huge difference in
[00:14:05] Jesse Fries:
in area coverage. No. No. They're not like they're not like other sides of the world or something like that. So No. No. They they they actually overlap along the Amazon river is where they overlap. So Okay. Yeah. But they basically have this everything else is the same. It's kind of weird. It's like they both grow to like 30 feet, weigh about £550. It's, there's like no difference in between these people in between these reptiles. It's just it's just 2 different types that don't enter breed and have a huge variance in DNA. That's cool. That is very cool. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:14:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Talking about animals, you know, you really gotta watch out for them. Swordfish now. Surfers gotta we got surfers gotta beware.
[00:14:54] Jesse Fries:
Really?
[00:14:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. There's this, lady, Italian lady. She was surfing in Indonesia.
[00:15:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:15:08] Jamon Fries:
And a swordfish jumped up out of the water and impaled her. Ouch. Is she alive or did she die? No. No. It it killed her. It hit her lungs, and they couldn't get her to the they couldn't get her to the hospital fast enough. And so it was like the Aussie that, that guy on TV, whatever his I forgot what his name was, who got hit by a stingray. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yep. I remember that. Yeah. Oh, I I always loved watching his shows too. Yep. Yep. Yep. They he was very entertaining. Yeah. He was. He was. He he definitely knew how to he definitely knew how to keep people entertained while talking about just wildlife, which is very awesome.
[00:15:51] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. Yeah.
[00:15:54] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. No. She she was, she had she had been surfing for quite a while. She was, a professional snowboarder for a while. Mhmm. And, yeah, they they, her and her friend her and her friend started up a company where they would tour basically all over the world to and bring bring people along to surf there. And on one of on one of her on her late on her last trip, yeah, a swordfish just jumped out of the water and right into her chest.
[00:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Woah. That's just crazy. That is just crazy. I know. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
[00:16:34] Jamon Fries:
Let's see. It's amazing what can happen when you're dealing with animals.
[00:16:38] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Animals are crazy. Even plants can be crazy. Apparently, when it comes to, cannabis, people who use high potency cannabis, that's with THC levels of 10% or more, If they use it daily, they are 5 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder.
[00:17:02] Jamon Fries:
That doesn't surprise me that much.
[00:17:05] Jesse Fries:
It really doesn't, but that's, like, huge. You know, that's
[00:17:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:17:11] Jesse Fries:
And a lot of times You know, it's it's a safe drug. It it has no side effects. There's nothing wrong with smoking it. Exactly. And that's just, like, 10% THC. You can get stuff up to 90%. THC. It's, like,
[00:17:27] Jamon Fries:
yeah. And they even try to figure
[00:17:30] Jesse Fries:
out, like, differences between, like, with tobacco and whatnot. And it's it's just yeah. It's cannabis that's causing this thing. Yep. But then if it's never used and you can't study it, there's no way to know exactly what its detriments are. And so because of that, it's become this thing that's it's okay. It's no harm. You know? That's how we think about it. Yeah.
[00:17:53] Jamon Fries:
That's how we think about pretty much everything. I mean, you know, anytime something comes out that's not well, the you know, cannabis was has always been used in in fairly extreme amounts, but it was never legal. So you couldn't really study it too much without drawing attention to it and stuff.
[00:18:15] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Plus, like, the pot from when we were kids, well, it was a lot more powerful than the original pot from, like, the sixties and seventies. Oh, yeah. But Yeah. Even in so it's, like, sixties seventies, the hippies that really got it going, you know, it was, it was barely anything. And then then to our generation where it was it was
[00:18:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The the pot in the sixties was almost was like ditch weed compared to to the stuff we've got now. No. Exactly.
[00:18:44] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. So yeah. So yeah. Be careful with that stuff. It's basically what I am saying. Yeah. Good thing I don't touch that stuff. Yeah. Either do I. Neither do I. One one one of these days I might use. Like, when I'm
[00:19:00] Jamon Fries:
really, really old and I know it won't really affect anything, I'll probably do it. I I I have in the past. Uh-huh. When I was working at, at Alorica, I did. Okay. Mhmm. From time to time. But, you know, basically, everyone in that building did. So
[00:19:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Probably so. Me and Carol didn't, but, yeah, more than likely. Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't be surprising.
[00:19:37] Jamon Fries:
And then coming back in smelling a pot. I mean, it was That's funny. That's funny.
[00:19:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:19:46] Jamon Fries:
We had a very, very lax work atmosphere there for some reason.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
I I don't know why. Yeah. I don't know why.
[00:19:56] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. But yeah. No. So it was I used it a few times, but honestly, alcohol was so much better. Yeah. That's how I figure it too. I I've yeah. I mean, it was I I never got a high out of it. I never really the the there was only one time that I attempted to drive Uh-huh. After I'd smoked a joint. And I didn't like what it did to me, so I never touched it again after that. No. I could see that. I need to see that. It may it may to me, it made it look like the headlights of other vehicles were much further away than they actually were. Oh, that's not right. Which is very problematic when you're driving.
[00:20:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No kidding. I'm not kidding.
[00:20:48] Jamon Fries:
Driving at night is not a good thing to do.
[00:20:51] Jesse Fries:
It really isn't. It's also not good to it's also good to have a or not good not to have accurate maps. Apparently, the Helene issue, you know, all the flooding in the mountains, it was due to, the FEMA using outdated insurance rate maps. They were obsolete and antiquated. And so they were FEMA was giving out bad information to insurers and everybody about the safety of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was another thing from the National Geographic. So
[00:21:30] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I you know, I I FEMA has never been a perfect entity. It's always had its problems. Well, completely. Nothing is. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, I I've never seen the size of ineptitude Mhmm. Out of out of FEMA that that I that you saw with with this with Helene.
[00:22:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, Katrina was horrible too, though.
[00:22:02] Jamon Fries:
Katrina was Katrina was horrible. But, I mean, Katrina the the benefit that FEMA had with Katrina was that it was very isolated. It was only the city of New Orleans, you know, whereas with with Helene, it's like 3 states. It's 3 it's 3 decent sized states that that were severely impacted by it. And so you've got the you've got the ineptitude of FEMA that you saw in in Katrina. Mhmm. But then you multiply that over a lot larger land area. Right. And it just it just gets worse. It just appears worse and worse and worse. Oh, yeah. I could see that. I could see that.
But, yeah. No. I mean, there's I I have always thought, and it it didn't really come into my mind until until I started hearing about, you know, the different things that were happening with Helena with Helene, where any there are so many private organizations that just on a snap of a finger, they had supplies there. They had equipment there. They had people there. They were repairing roads, you know, within a couple of days and stuff like that. And that's just private individuals and companies that just brought everything in. It didn't they didn't take, like, a week to ramp up to to start, you know, getting things together.
With with with Katrina, it took them quite a while it took FEMA quite a while to start getting the, the all the housing situation take taken care of with the Mhmm. With their with their, trailers and stuff. I mean Yep. Yep. Yep. It took forever to get those trailers to New Orleans for that. That is true. That is true. Yeah. You know, and when you've got companies from all the way across the country that can within a few days have a major presence across the entire area that was affected by Helene Mhmm. I mean, it just it just doesn't really make sense to leave that up to 100% government control.
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it it solves the question though of you need it's better to have just one point of
[00:24:31] Jesse Fries:
authority versus many points of authority.
[00:24:35] Jamon Fries:
This is generally the argument.
[00:24:37] Jesse Fries:
No, that's generally the argument. Yeah. I I more than likely, they they will study this as they always study, and then they'll do nothing about it. Yeah. Exactly. How government works.
[00:24:51] Jamon Fries:
What what I would what I would love to see happen would be, for example, you have you have FEMA. I mean, I FEMA is insanely important. Right. You need to have the government entity that is in control of, that is in control of trying to centralize the aid that's being sent out. Mhmm. Because otherwise, you know, you'll get some areas where get where they get way too much stuff and you'll get other areas that don't get nearly enough. So you do need some some form of coordination there. But I don't think FEMA should be the end all be all where when it comes to actually supplying everything.
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. You know, if if Yeah. If private organizations and and the nonprofits, if they coordinated with FEMA If if it if FEMA were just a coordination group instead of the entire rescue effort group. Right. I think that it would I think that it would improve the situation quite a bit. Yeah. That's an interesting thought.
[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. On a different level, looks like the government is is doing something maybe good. Apparently, they're making it easier to cancel your subscriptions. So, to to to the point where you can just can't like, go online and cancel instead of having to call to cancel or something like that. So that'll be nice. That'll be nice. I always hate those ones. Oh, you need to call. It's like, why do I have to call? Come on. Just make it easy for me. Yeah. It's, I understand the business side because they want to, like, sell me more stuff or give me a discount and everything like that. Yeah. But and, you know, just make it easy for myself, because even you if you do that, if you make it easy, you could still go through all those steps of, well, how about this deal, that deal? So it's a couple more clicks, but still, just make it easy. I don't wanna talk to people. I'm sorry. It's I don't wanna call on the phone and have them try to sell me. It's like, oh, no. I'm gonna say no. Plain and simple, I'm gonna say no. Yeah. So just let me go, you know, without your Yep. Whatever it is.
[00:27:03] Jamon Fries:
Well, what's interesting about that is, you know, I I just recently heard that had heard that they wanted to do that as well. But, about a month ago, I started seeing advertisements on TV about this company that, I can't remember the name of it. It's, basically, it's an app on the phone where the where you can track all of the subscriptions that you're paying that you're paying for. Mhmm. And through that app, you can go and you can cancel all of those subscriptions.
[00:27:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's I think it's a Rocket thing.
[00:27:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. I yeah. So the government comes out and announces that they're doing it about a month after the after the rocket app says we can do this. It's something just hasn't quite gotten up there. That that is kind of funny. That is rather
[00:27:59] Jesse Fries:
funny. The government's going, well, let's just do this because, it can be done already.
[00:28:05] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's funny. If if they if they made it so that there would if the next thing they'll do is they sell they'll say, you know, we're we're making it so you can cancel everything at one site. You know, basically they're just going to create another rocket, but it'll be free instead of having to pay a monthly subscription for rocket or whatever. Yeah. I I if you have to, I don't even know if you have to. Yeah. I I don't know if you have to or not either. So but I mean, it I just I I find it so comical that it's already been done, and now the government says comes out and says, we're gonna do this for you.
[00:28:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That is funny. Okay. So what what else you got?
[00:28:56] Jamon Fries:
Well, most of what I have is AI related. Okay. I got some of that. As well as a few other things. But before I get into that, you know, my biggest dream has always been space. Right. That that's like the biggest thing for me. Okay. And there there's a couple things that that are very interesting that I've run across. Uh-huh. You know, Starship, the the, Starship 5 launch that happened not too long ago where they caught the rocket. Yep. Yep. Well, there the FAA has already announced that the earliest that the next starship may be able to launch is November 11th.
[00:29:45] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Mom's birthday. There you go. That works. That's
[00:29:49] Jamon Fries:
really but I mean, going from 5 to 6 in less than a month? Yeah. Yeah. That that is if if they can pull off what they wanna do with with Starship, that is very impressive. No. It is. From what I've heard from what I've heard starting with 6, there may even be a possibility that they'll try to use the the chopsticks to the maxilla arms to actually catch the, the shuttle as well.
[00:30:19] Jesse Fries:
The the capsule, you mean?
[00:30:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:30:22] Jesse Fries:
But okay. I didn't know that there there was a had a rocket on the back of it. Yeah. That's it. It So it's not like the Apollo 11 sorta capsule?
[00:30:35] Jamon Fries:
No. No. In fact, it's not a capsule at all, really. It's the, it's the stage 2 of the of the rocket. It it it it does a burn to complete to get itself completely into orbit. Oh, okay. And then and then it, control burn to come back down. And so they're they're they're talking, the plan eventually is to catch both the stage 1 and the shuttle.
[00:31:04] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:31:05] Jamon Fries:
And according to what I've seen from SpaceX, they could make an attempt as early as as mission 6
[00:31:15] Jesse Fries:
That's pretty sweet. To catch both. That is pretty sweet. Yeah. No. Elon Muskie is both.
[00:31:22] Jamon Fries:
But if they can catch both, they are very, very, very close to being able to send up numerous multiple missions real close to each other. Oh, yeah. Completely.
[00:31:33] Jesse Fries:
Completely. That's pretty cool. Speaking of, Elon Musk with that, apparently, the EU is because x, you know, it really isn't making money. And so the EU wants to fine x, but it's not really making money or tax it or something like that. And so now the EU some people there are actually contemplating just finding taking all of, Elon's companies and how much they make and taking that as the revenue of x for the fine. Because the fine would be a percentage of the company's earnings. Yep.
[00:32:21] Jamon Fries:
That makes absolutely no sense.
[00:32:23] Jesse Fries:
It makes complete sense because you if you want money
[00:32:28] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. It doesn't seem legal in my book, but, you know, it's, Well, e even even if you don't think the legality of it Uh-huh. Just the implications of that are massive. Could could you Exactly. Imagine I mean, if I were Elon Musk and that were to happen, I would say, what's that? You wanna use my Falcon 9 to put your shit in space? Exactly. I'm sorry, but you have to now pay me a $100,000,000 more.
[00:32:56] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Exactly. But, yeah, it looks like they're contemplating it. Yeah. So and it was like, you know, it's just crazy.
[00:33:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It really is. Yeah. Going on with, with Elon again, that there's, it's not actually about Elon himself. There's this there's a guy that, used to work for SpaceX. Mhmm. He was and he was involved in the, in basically I think he started with the second with their very site with the very second test launch that they did Okay. Way back at the very beginning. Uh-huh. He helped develop the Grasshopper. He's helped do all sorts of stuff for Elon.
[00:33:45] Jesse Fries:
Oh, nice. And
[00:33:47] Jamon Fries:
as as he was doing all that, he saw something that was problematic with what with what Elon was trying to do. Mhmm. And that was the the problem is is that as of right now, once you go into space Mhmm. So when they go to Mars, the only way to create energy that they have is solar.
[00:34:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Makes sense. But
[00:34:19] Jamon Fries:
in order to the in order to become become a multi planet, species, you have to be able to send a ship to Mars and have that ship return.
[00:34:34] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Yeah.
[00:34:36] Jamon Fries:
And in order to to create enough energy to create the to to restore the fuel and everything for the for the shuttle to return Mhmm. You would need immense amounts of electricity that solar almost cannot even
[00:34:55] Jesse Fries:
possibly create. Right. Right.
[00:34:58] Jamon Fries:
And so what he's what he did is he is he, stepped away from SpaceX and started its own company where they are making portable nuclear power plants. Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. He he was he was thinking about it and then the the military came out and said, we want a portable nuclear power plant that that can that we can fly places so that so we can provide energy where we need it. And they wanted, like, a 1 megaton or something like that. Right. Power supply. And so he so he broke off and he got some funding from the government to start bake to start making that. Mhmm. I don't know how far they've gotten with it, but they have developed completely perfectly isolated nuclear reactors.
They're not 100% safe yet, of course, because, well, with nuclear power, there is no 100% guarantee.
[00:36:02] Jesse Fries:
Well, I heard that they're pretty that they're starting to be deployed. They're pretty damn close. Yeah. So, I heard that Are they starting to be deployed now? The the that's what I heard from our cousin. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh-huh. But I I heard that stuff so yeah. I mean, I
[00:36:18] Jamon Fries:
I I just I just saw that, like, 20 minutes before the show, so I didn't I didn't get to watch finish No. Yeah. The entire interview and stuff. So Yeah. I don't know how far they've gotten, but just I mean because because it's much the ability to yeah. Just the ability to have a portable nuclear reactor.
[00:36:40] Jesse Fries:
It would change every game out there. No. It would. It would. And now exactly, it's like what he was talking about. He was like when he was in the Middle East, with the military, he they would have these huge diesel generators just going and going and going. And, yeah, the nuke would be like, sweet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:37:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, with with that one he's like, with with this one nuclear reactor, you put it onto the you put it onto the shuttle that goes over to to Mars. Uh-huh. All you have to do is find water or ice. Mhmm. And with that nuclear reactor, you can actually refuel your
[00:37:26] Jesse Fries:
your shuttle to for its flight back. Yeah. That's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet.
[00:37:31] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So that was pretty cool too.
[00:37:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Let's see here. It looks like some people have figured out how to make, like, not a new type because Benjamin Franklin actually invented the thing or really did it, but static electric, electrical motors. Yeah. So and so instead of using the direct power to turn the turbine, it would just use static charges to twist it. And so basically, the efficiency would be about 80% greater than what we have now. Okay.
[00:38:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That is pretty awesome.
[00:38:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. He he they had to come up with they had to invent some new things, some gels and everything like that. Yeah. But, yeah, they say it would could really, really help. They some Chinese are thinking of, using the same technology in, like, drones. So, basically, you could just throw up a drone in the day, and it would just stay up with this electric motor. Wow. And then, of course, at nighttime, it would have to land. But, yeah, apparently, it's not, like, great for cars. Trying to get into a car could be problematic, apparently. But for, like, industrial purposes, it could really, really help. So Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
[00:38:52] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. That that's pretty awesome. Yep. Yeah. So, did you hear that there's been some advancement in nuclear fusion?
[00:39:03] Jesse Fries:
No.
[00:39:04] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The the biggest problem that that they've had with nuclear fusion is being able to to create a good enough control to keep the to keep the plasma all centered.
[00:39:17] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:39:19] Jamon Fries:
Because there there's there's always the small little breaks and magnetic fields and stuff like that or the Right. Right. Or the the plasma doesn't quite act the way that they want it to all the time. Mhmm. And so they've it it's basically been almost impossible to to continue to keep it running for a long firm for a long term. Okay. I I think the longest that they've ever had it run was a matter of I don't know I don't know if it's even been a minute. I mean so, I mean, not very long at all. Uh-huh. But they started using AI.
Okay. They they they took they brought AI into it, and they ran a test where they they trained the AI solely by showing it previous attempts to to do nuclear fusion. So they didn't they didn't program it with, like, the the knowledge of nuclear fusion or anything like that. It was purely this is what's happened. This was the result, You know, said it learns the re how to react to these things. Okay. And the AI was actually able to warn them, like, 300 nanoseconds or something like that Uh-huh. Before the before the the control before it lost control. Okay. Now this this isn't enough time for a human to make an adjustment Right. Right. Right. But it's more than enough time for an AI to make an adjustment to the magnetic sphere Yep. To to fix that problem. I don't know if they've actually run any tests after that where they actually fixed it. Because in in the tests that I read about, they were they were only testing to see if if it could if it could detect it early.
[00:41:08] Jesse Fries:
No. I I could actually see AI being used for that, like nobody's business. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah.
[00:41:15] Jamon Fries:
Nice. That is pretty cool. Yep. That is pretty cool. So so if if that if they can solve that problem with AI, there aren't too many more problems we have with actually creating nuclear fusion. That
[00:41:30] Jesse Fries:
that'd be pretty sweet, especially as a power source. Yeah. That'd be nice. Yeah. That would be nice.
[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:
Another another energy source that AI is helping with is solar power.
[00:41:41] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:41:43] Jamon Fries:
It actually found a way to increase the energy that solar can provide.
[00:41:52] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:41:53] Jamon Fries:
And it's insane what it came up with. Uh-huh. It uses oh, what is it called? Hapsacin.
[00:42:08] Jesse Fries:
Whatever that is. Which is
[00:42:12] Jamon Fries:
it's the active compound found in chili peppers.
[00:42:15] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Oh, that. Yeah.
[00:42:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So it uses so by inputting that into the solar cells, it improves the solar cells efficiency.
[00:42:28] Jesse Fries:
That's cool.
[00:42:30] Jamon Fries:
Nice. And AI running tests and stuff like that is what came up with that. Uh-huh. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool.
[00:42:39] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. On another AI kind of funny note. So I read these like how to or help columns and everything like that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This this one lady wrote in to it was slate on slate. But, basically, she was talking about her son. And in school, he was given, an assignment to where he was the skin was supposed to select a topic from a preapproved list, and then ask AI to write an essay about it. And then submit and then send the you then basically, he would critique it, and he would fact check the essay, right, to see what he got wrong. Yeah. It seems like a good Yep. Assignment to me. Right? Well, apparently apparently, this mother, thought this was horrible, and she this is what she wrote.
I don't want him doing this assignment. Chat gpt is an ir irreductably sex sexist device that reads and then regurgitates garbage that pushes impressionable young men into misogyny and inseldom. So so apparently now AI turns people into incels.
[00:43:58] Jamon Fries:
Oh, good. I love that. I was like, good.
[00:44:06] Jesse Fries:
What did you read to think that that actually was happening? You you know, it's
[00:44:12] Jamon Fries:
She probably talked talked to g to chat gpt so much that it that it learned from her.
[00:44:19] Jesse Fries:
Ah, something. I don't know. That's like, I have never heard of chat gbt turning people into incels. I have never heard of it. So No.
[00:44:30] Jamon Fries:
Wow. Wow.
[00:44:35] Jesse Fries:
God bless it. Uh-huh. Mhmm. Okay. Here it More into AI. No. Go ahead. No. No. That we can keep that going.
[00:44:46] Jamon Fries:
More into AI. The the very first, medicines that were completely AI driven Uh-huh. Have begun clinical testing in 2023.
[00:44:59] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay.
[00:45:01] Jamon Fries:
So any results yet? I don't think there have been any massive results yet. The the nothing that I've read said that said that whether they passed or not. Okay. But they're what they think could happen with this is that because because it's all done by AI, it's done so much quicker and so much cheaper Okay. To develop this medicine. So they think that it may become more if AI were to to do to create the medicines, they think it would be more cost effective to work on the lesser on on the less on the diseases that affect much less people. So you you you could find you could add because, you know, right now, if it if it's not something that affects, you know, like 100 of thousands of people at the minimum, it's just not cost effective to make the medicine.
And so they're they're they're thinking that if if a with AI, they may actually be able to reduce that number of people down into the 100 maybe even where if it affects more than a 100 people, it becomes cost effective to create to create the medicine.
[00:46:18] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. Interesting. They they they should watch out though because apparently, a Dutch court just said that Bill Gates can be sued over his help with the vaccines for COVID.
[00:46:31] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:46:34] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So, yeah, he tried to get off that. But the Dutch court said, Nope. You can be part of that. You really
[00:46:42] Jamon Fries:
were a factor in it. So, yeah. Yeah. So Yeah.
[00:46:46] Jesse Fries:
Gotta watch out for the yeah. All this stuff. We have to I think we have to be a little bit more cagey when it comes to these new technologies just to make sure that Oh, yeah. They're not messing with us too much. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:46:59] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. I mean, there's there's always possibility. Whenever you're dealing with AI, there's always you always have to be very cautious. Nope. Completely. Any new technology, it's best to be cautious. Yep.
[00:47:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Let's see here. Anything else AI?
[00:47:15] Jamon Fries:
No. I don't have anything else at all, in fact.
[00:47:18] Jesse Fries:
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So they're saying it's gonna take 17.5 generations to get back to pre conflict level on their economy.
[00:49:23] Jamon Fries:
See, if I'm not mistaken, the the the the economy in Gaza pre conflict was horrible. Well, it was, but there was no infrastructure. Everything had been torn up. Everything was well, I mean, everything that that the Israelis had left behind there was destroyed. They they didn't bother even trying to use anything. They just destroyed it all.
[00:49:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. But even then, you know, this is just
[00:49:51] Jamon Fries:
this doesn't make any sense because you look at what
[00:49:54] Jesse Fries:
look at Europe and Japan after World War 2. Germany and Japan were, like, completely destroyed. Millions were dead. You know? And but it took less than a decade to recover to what they were before.
[00:50:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You you you know that To to me to me, that that them saying it's gonna take that long is them saying, look, these people are just fucking stupid. They're not gonna be able to to recover at all. So, you know, basically, they're just saying we're gonna we're we have to give up or we have to do it for them. No. Exactly. Which is it's
[00:50:33] Jesse Fries:
it's stupid because they will get investments, and then they'll rebuild. This is how it works. This is the
[00:50:40] Jamon Fries:
companies love it when the country is mobilized. You know? It's Absolutely. There there are not only that, but there are a lot of Palestinians across the world
[00:50:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That will definitely send help back. Exactly. Most of the world will send some. It it'll be a great investment. And it was, like, the great one of the great economists, Milton Friedman, he said he actually said around, like, at the end of World War 2. He actually said the best way to grow rapidly is to have the country bombarded. So
[00:51:15] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it and and that actually makes a lot of sense because not only not only are you dealing with everything being rubble Uh-huh. But that means that you you have that you start from the infrastructure. Yep. So you you you have free open rein to build the right infrastructure that's needed. And then to build everything on top of that, it's not going to take nearly as long to recover if everything has been bulldozed down. No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:51:45] Jesse Fries:
The only thing that I could see that would cause an issue is, the grudges. These grudges are not Oh, yeah. Anywhere. Yeah. And all it never does is lead to suffering. You know? It it's Yeah. It's like you might hate and despise an enemy, but if you're if everything you have goes into their elimination, you leave nothing for your people.
[00:52:07] Jamon Fries:
You know? And it seems to be that's
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
now don't get me wrong. Israel hasn't been completely nice to the Palestinians or anything like that. Oh, no. No. Absolutely not. But all their money basically went into this last attack. They spent so much money trying to digging tunnels and spending rockets and everything like this, that they Yep. They they forgot the people. You you know, I I know there's they're supported by the people, but going after a blood feud, just all it ever does is hurt your own people. It rarely ever Yeah. Actually hurts the other people.
[00:52:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, like I like I said earlier, you know, when when Israel pulled pulled out of Gaza, they left very good water treatment facilities there. They left very good they they left a good infrastructure there. Mhmm. And what did Hamas do? It took all of those water pipes and turned them into missiles.
[00:53:03] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yep. Yep. I mean,
[00:53:07] Jamon Fries:
it left nothing for any of the Palestinians that were there.
[00:53:12] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. It's really sad when you let a blood for you get like that. You know, it's like It really is. Yeah. You need to look towards the future. You know? Do you want your kids to have a better life? You know? Sometimes you just have to accept what it what is, and Yeah. Let it go. You know? Constantly always trying to get revenge is not gonna Yeah. It's not gonna do anything. At some point, you might win, but is that worth all the lives you've thrown under the bus? You know? It's
[00:53:44] Jamon Fries:
Well, I I don't really I I personally I don't really understand where the blood feud comes from.
[00:53:52] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's just Israel came in, and they were set up by the UN. And, basically, they pushed, kinda forced selling of land and everything like that.
[00:54:04] Jamon Fries:
And then they took the good There there was there was some of there was some of that. Yes. But a lot of the land that Israel took was not usable in any way. No. Yeah. I understand.
[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:
Understand. And then a lot of it is just the Muslim against the law. So
[00:54:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the you know, because the from what I've heard, you know, when when the when the when when the UK announced that they were that they were going to bring is the Israel there, when when they said all of you is let Israelites come come back Right. To go back to go back to Israel. The there were at that point in time, there were still is there there still were Jewish people living in the area. Oh, of course. Yeah. There there were also quite a few Muslims.
[00:54:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:54:57] Jamon Fries:
The the problem that I from what I heard arises from the fact that the UK basically promised the land to 2 different groups. It promised the delay it promised the land to Israel, but then it also promised the land to if I remember correctly, it was one of the, Saudi princes that was basically on the out and out. Mhmm. And that's that's how Jordan came about. Oh, okay. That that that prince was given was given Jordan, but he was expecting to get So so what they did was they they told the the Muslims in Israel to leave for now.
We will take that land back and then you can go back in. And those those were the those were the Palestinians. Okay. Yeah. And so so, basically, it was the other the the other Muslim nations told the Palestinians to leave their land now, and then we will take it back as soon as we can. And you'll be able to move back. Yeah. They they did try to take it. And they they tried. They they tried their best.
[00:56:20] Jesse Fries:
They they they really did, and the Jews won. So, yeah, Israel won. So it's a Yep. Yeah. And so to me, because Israel won, that means, well, that's their land now. That that that's just how I see it.
[00:56:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. That's how the world has worked since the very first tribe fought another tribe
[00:56:41] Jesse Fries:
for a land.
[00:56:42] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. The winner gets the spoils.
[00:56:46] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. That's that's how it works. And then you have to live with that system. But then, you know, it's just yeah. Hopefully, sooner or later, it can just calm down and everybody can just get along. That would be nice.
[00:56:58] Jamon Fries:
Mhmm. But I
[00:57:00] Jesse Fries:
I don't see it happening anytime soon. This blood feud will keep going for a little while. Oh, yeah. But as an aside, while I was looking this up, right, I actually like because I was checking, like, how quickly Japan and Germany recovered after the war. Right? Yeah. And and the one thing I found in there is that, basically, the one thing that actually helped them is that they basically just went free market economy. That is, like Oh, yeah. But but it didn't actually matter, like, what kind of free market economy. It's like Germany, they went more of a regulated and controlled market economy, free market economy.
And then Japan just basically let things go with the economy.
[00:57:46] Jamon Fries:
To the point where like
[00:57:48] Jesse Fries:
Germany, they curtailed monopolies. They made sure monopolies didn't happen and things like that, right? So it was very controlled. So there wasn't this huge competition or anything like that, right? Between massive companies. Japan went the other way. They allowed business groups to form that linked banks, industrialists, and trading companies. And then this allowed them to dominate their competitors, both foreign and domestically. Yeah. It's and they both just their economy recovery is both are termed miracles. Yeah.
It's funny how two different ways of doing a free market economy works. So in my book, you just need a free market economy. You can have pretty much any There's
[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:
another country you can throw in there too. Uh-huh. China. China was was nothing until they until they until they opened up
[00:58:46] Jesse Fries:
their own form of free market. No. No. No. No. Yeah. I think we talked about that last time. Their free market economy. But I was just talking about post World War 2,
[00:58:56] Jamon Fries:
because that one Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:58:58] Jesse Fries:
That one was like nineties. They started opening it up in the nineties after Tiananmen Square. They didn't know they had some issues. And so they started opening up because of that.
[00:59:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The biggest reason that they opened up was, Hong Kong being returned.
[00:59:17] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But they also noticed that the young weren't having it anymore. Yeah. The Tiananmen Square. Yeah. It all went badly for those people protesting, but they did but the government did see that something needed to change. And so a lot of that did help in that process. Talking about the young in China, it's happening again. How so? In fact,
[00:59:39] Jamon Fries:
the there's a new movement now where the young younger generations, they're starting to question whether they even should go to college. There are many of many, many of them are not even getting jobs anymore. Oh, yeah. There there's it's gotten to the point where they are getting paid for acting like children.
[01:00:07] Jesse Fries:
Oh, well, that's weird. They they they
[01:00:10] Jamon Fries:
seriously, they literally what they do is they live with their parents. Mhmm. They will clean up the house. They will do the dishes. They will cook a few meals, and they get paid for doing that. Wow. Wow. That is special. Yeah. That is truly special. I know. A a large a large portion of the a large portion of the, of Chinese youth right now, they're just taking small part time jobs just to make enough to survive. Mhmm. They're because part part of it is because of the work the work. I I would I don't wanna say work ethics or anything like that, but in Mhmm. In China, you go to work at 9 AM Mhmm. And you don't get off work until 9 PM.
[01:01:05] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[01:01:06] Jamon Fries:
That that is how How many days a week? Basically every job works now. 6 days a week. Holy.
[01:01:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna have to change that. Just But but but but, you know, this is this sort of thing. That's how we started as well, our industrial movements and everything like that. Same with Europe and everything like that. We we all started with that with child labor and everything like that. So hopefully, China can change like we did because because, yeah, things need to change. You need to make it easier for people and everything like that. Well, the the biggest the biggest reason the biggest reason that the companies start are doing that
[01:01:52] Jamon Fries:
is because that's what their parents did. That's what their parents did. It's what their parents did. Well, no. Yeah. Yeah. Although it all because, you know, these these they they just the work ethic that those people had was that I want to make as much money as possible to support my family. Well, I I wouldn't say just that. Coming straight out of farms and stuff like that. Well, no. See, that's the thing. They're coming from the agriculture world to where you have to. You don't have any other options. If you wanna eat, you need to work all that time,
[01:02:22] Jesse Fries:
If you wanna eat, you need to work all that time
[01:02:25] Jamon Fries:
to actually put- Yeah, the sun is up, you're working.
[01:02:28] Jesse Fries:
Exactly, exactly. And, but a lot of times that work, it's just like mending this or doing that, mending this bucket. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, things like that. A lot of times it's not actually hard work. Yep. But you are actually always doing things. Over into the workforce.
[01:02:40] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. That that transition over to the companies. Exactly. But on the
[01:02:45] Jesse Fries:
this is right now, they haven't been able to change that. And as I said, Jimmy, this is what they need to make the transition like everybody else did. Yep. Yep. Because if you when you think about it, China, they've been industrial for a while, but not really. Their industry was lax up until just recently the last 20, 30 years. And so they're in the very early stages of the industrial movement and everything like that. And just like we did, it took decades upon decades for us to get the kids out of the mines, out of the factories, and everything like that. Yeah. It it's just this slow it every country has to go through these things. This is my theory. I've had this theory for a while. Oh, yeah. You you have to go through certain economic steps and industrial steps. And I think this is just the next one. And more than likely, as long as they do it right, the party can stay in control, but they can change their economic system to allow for that. Because Yeah.
12 hours a day for 6 days a week, that's not gonna cut it. Oh, yeah. Not at all. People just can't do it. You just can't And one of the focus like that. One of the other one of the other things that they're that they're noticing is that
[01:04:01] Jamon Fries:
because they're spending so much time at work, they're they're not developing the relationships with with the other sex and stuff like that. And this is all, of course, exacerbated by the fact that they had the one child policy and all that. Mhmm. But it up but it's it's it's ended up meaning that people are spending much less money in China now. So the economy is starting to get hit. The these companies are starting to shut down. Mhmm. Plus, not to mention the government think believed that they were that the governments had grown too big and too strong and too had too much influence.
So the government started hitting the tech companies and and the real estate companies and stuff like that. Because, you know, in China, that's the government can basically shut down anything it wants to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep. And so that that led to peep to the younger generation being like, you know, I had this job. I lost it because the government did this. Then I had this job. Again, I lost it because the government had this. Now I wanna go work here, but the government just did something to that, so I can't do that anymore. And they're like, why even bother?
[01:05:13] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. That's how it goes. Well, let's wrap it up with a kind of a funny story. So, the University of Wisconsin, they had to move a boulder. It was a lovely boulder. It was a big boulder. But apparently, it was seen as a symbol of racism.
[01:05:34] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So the boulder, it was emplaced because, for who was it? It was the
[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:
for Thomas Crowder Chamberlain. He was just a, geologist, and he was the former university president.
[01:05:49] Jamon Fries:
Now there's nothing wrong with him. There was nothing wrong with him. He wasn't racist or anything like that. So that's not why they got rid of it.
[01:05:56] Jesse Fries:
Why they got rid of it is that there was a short period of time in the 1920s where large dark rocks, so basically large dark boulders, they they had a bad term. It it was, n word head is what it was. Right? Okay. And so because of that and for this rock, it was called that or referred to it as that one time in a newspaper in 1925. And because of that, the rock had to be moved. So they moved the boulder. They spent $50,000 to move a boulder because
[01:06:42] Jamon Fries:
one time an article. It was called one news article. Oh my god. Yep.
[01:06:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. This was all after the George Floyd. This was, approved after the George Floyd stuff and everything like that. But here, I'm like, it was one time. It it
[01:06:59] Jamon Fries:
it it wasn't It had nothing to do with it it it had absolutely nothing to do with the person that they were honoring with that rock.
[01:07:05] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:07:06] Jamon Fries:
Nothing. It was just one person wrote one article
[01:07:11] Jesse Fries:
Yes. That's been found. Yeah. That said that one word.
[01:07:15] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was it's like taking down a statue.
[01:07:23] Jesse Fries:
Okay. You can make an argument. Things like that. But this, I just don't I just don't get it. But Oh. I thought that was rather funny, though.
[01:07:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolutely. That is that is insane.
[01:07:39] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we are insane. And on that note, I would like to thank you for joining us for episode number 8 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Friese.
[01:07:52] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:07:54] Jesse Fries:
You guys have a great day.
Introduction
Politics and Polls
Gambling
Music and Political Campaigns
Animal and Plant Oddities
FEMA and Disaster Response
Government and Subscription Services
Space Exploration Updates
Energy Innovations
AI in Nuclear Fusion
AI in Medicine
Gaza Economy and Historical Comparisons
China's Economic and Social Shifts
It's a lovely boulder.
