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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon, everybody.   It is Thursday,   December 4, and we are live with episode 83 of the Mindless Meanderings.   I'm Jesse Friese. And, yeah, I just went to the eye doctor. And, yeah, my eyes are getting a little blurry. Imagine that.  

[00:00:38] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Friese. And,   you know, it it's amazing how much information I've learned how much new things I learned just from reading   fiction books.  

[00:00:48] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:00:50] Jamon Fries:

I had no idea   that there was   something that   basically a ship without propulsion system, so it has to be towed.   That once it gets to its destination,   it starts filling up the back end of with water   and flips upright like a buoy.  

[00:01:11] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:01:13] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's for, research for scientific research for, like, waves and stuff like that. I had never run across anything like that. And I've read about it in a book that I'm reading. I'm like, well, damn. That's pretty cool. Yeah. No. I think they also use that sort of thing for, like, some oil rigs and whatnot.  

[00:01:29] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Yeah. It's quite fascinating, actually. I've seen Yeah. The those things before. So yeah. That's pretty cool.   Yeah. Pretty cool. Okay. Well, so let's just get into it.   So these judges, you know,   Boseberg and, what's the other one here?   Okay. Boseberg is the one that you know. It's   and my.   Yeah. Deborah Boardman. Basically, the senate wants to talk to him and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. And, decided to play no show. Yeah. Yeah. They did no show.   And   in the meantime, with that whole no show,   the they sent, like, a letter or something or somebody from the court,   went to talk to the senate.  

Mhmm. And they said   oh, sorry. Excuse me. They said that,   apparently,   you know, the gag order that was put on, the congressman's,   subpoenas Right. From AT and T and whatnot,   they said the this court guy said that Bozeman probably didn't even know who that gag order was for. It was probably just a gag order that the DOJ sent over, and this normal thing for,   apparently, Bozeman to do is just to sign every gag order that the DOJ sends over.  

[00:02:51] Jamon Fries:

Which means he probably also just blanket signs everything the DOJ sends over.   Possibly so. Possibly so. Yeah. To me, this it's  

[00:03:02] Jesse Fries:

it's like what what's funny is that the whole article, it was, like, going well. So this is just normal procedure. So it's, like, they're going, okay. Let's go on about our business. It's, like,   that's normal procedure? What are you talking about? No.  

[00:03:14] Jamon Fries:

It should never be normal procedure.   No. You know, I'd No. There there are a lot of judges that do that with, like,   with search warrants and stuff like that too. Where they just assume they just assume that because you're asking for a search warrant, you have the legitimate legitimate right to have that search warrant.  

[00:03:33] Jesse Fries:

Well, this is what happened with the search warrant for those records and everything like that as well. So yeah. No. Where is the accountability? It should be a adversarial position in between the judge and the police when it comes to that.  

[00:03:46] Jamon Fries:

Oh, without a doubt. Yes. So the police should have to the the judge should require that they prove it without   without any benefit of doubt, without any doubt that it's necessary.  

[00:04:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure about the doubt thing because that goes into a juries and doubts and everything like that. So I'm not sure if I'd use that exact word, but a very high probability, I would say. Yeah. You know? Or at least some sort of level of probability, not just a blanket sign.  

[00:04:17] Jamon Fries:

There there should be there should be wording that says that a judge has to   you that you have to convince a judge   that it is 100%   a necessity.  

[00:04:29] Jesse Fries:

No. Completely. Completely.   And if apparently, if there's not enough judges so you can do that, get more bloody judges because Yeah. Otherwise, the the system is broken. You know? It's I think I'm yeah. I I I just don't   I don't understand that that could be you know, it's Well, you know, it it's like, I I've heard  

[00:04:49] Jamon Fries:

I I've heard of some cases where  

[00:04:53] Jesse Fries:

You have a phone  

[00:04:55] Jamon Fries:

ringing. Yeah.   I I turned I stopped the call. I should probably silence the phone, though.   It's mom calling.   But,   now the,   what was I saying? I I've heard of cases where, like,   all it takes is a neighbor saying they see someone bringing a whole bunch of guns into a house. Uh-huh.   And the police go and raid the house.   Yep.   You know, there there's  

[00:05:24] Jesse Fries:

there there's something very wrong about that. No. I agree. I agree. It should be a much   higher level of,  

[00:05:35] Jamon Fries:

Well, it it should at least require that the police do some investigation. I mean, it's not Yeah. To see if anything illegal happens. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's not hard to find out if if this person   actually bought guns   legally or if they own guns legally, if they have permits,   if the guns require permits.   That's all very easy background stuff to look up. The the police should be required   to find that information first.  

[00:06:02] Jesse Fries:

Well, I'd agree. But then also with that, you get into the point where it's, like, going well so a friend is over, and he's bringing his guns over to show. You know? Yeah. So what? Yeah. Yeah. This is none of your business. Plain and simple. You know? It's not like it's it's not like we're Great Britain where you can't own a gun. Ex exactly.   Exactly. We have the right to own as many guns as we want to. Plain and simple. This is it. You know? Now the type of guns, the Supreme Court is questionable about and everything like that, I'm not I wouldn't agree with a lot of that stuff because I think if you can afford it, you can own a nuclear missile personally. That's Absolutely. Yes. So that, to me, that is what the constitution is all about. Yeah. Yeah. There should be no such thing as an illegal weapon. You should be able to own fire fully automatic weapons. I wouldn't mind having a  

[00:06:50] Jamon Fries:

a licensing   process for fully automatic weapons, but, know, you should still be able to but you should be able to own them. Yeah. That's what I think. Yeah. Even a cannon. I want a cannon. You know? Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah.  

[00:07:05] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. It it it it's messed up. It's messed up. It is. And these judges don't seem to care.   This is the problem with judges.   You you know? It's like they just seem they think that they're the the god. You know? They can do whatever they want to. So  

[00:07:21] Jamon Fries:

Well, they they either they either think that they're the God   or they somehow convince themselves   that the police would never make a a request   that was overboard.  

[00:07:34] Jesse Fries:

Right.   Which is stupid.   You know, it's it's cops are a necessary evil, but it's a evil nonetheless. You know? It's just   there's bad ones. There's ones that take Oh, yeah. Too much power. There's so much there, you know. Yeah. Sometimes   yeah. They it's like, if if you watch all these cops if you watch any of these videos online or anything like that, TikTok, the cops are always going, stop resisting. Stop resisting. And and the guy isn't even resisting.   Yeah. But the funny bit is is that if you put that on camera, stop resisting, that means you are to do whatever you want to that person because they're resisting.   It's stupid. It's jackassery.  



[00:08:20] Jamon Fries:

It is. Absolutely.  

[00:08:22] Jesse Fries:

It's like because you're twisting their arm up in pain and then they kinda tense and that's resisting, go fuck yourself. It is. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.  

[00:08:33] Jamon Fries:

Not cool with that. But then, you know, there there's the videos where you watch and I love watching these videos for some reason. Mhmm. The the ones with the female police officers that are trying to control a male suspect Oh, jeez. On them.   Yeah. This one this this lady, she she had him on the ground. She got him down on the ground somehow, but she couldn't get him to roll onto his back. He   she had no strength at all. Right. Right. Couldn't get him to roll on his back. He he she eventually got off of him and was trying to find figure out a different way saying that she was gonna tase him if he didn't stop. So he stands up, starts running. She tases him.   He go he drops down to the to the ground like a plank.  

Then he gets back up and starts running again. And by this time, another squad card pulled up. A guy comes around and out of that that car and just   tackles Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. We oh, it was it was it was so funny.  

[00:09:33] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Let let's not get into this discussion of female cops. You know, let's not do that one. I love I love the fact that there are female police officers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just  

[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:

think that they should not put themselves in a situation   where they are trying to  

[00:09:51] Jesse Fries:

handle a No. I understand. I understand. I was I didn't I just say I didn't wanna talk about that? Yeah. I think I did too. Just saying. I I I don't care enough. I can talk about whatever the hell I wanna talk about. Okay. Okay. Let's see here.   So, Hegseth, he this whole thing is just keeps going and going and going. You know? It's, Yeah. It it'll never stop. It won't. It won't. So   it   but what's funny is that the Washington Post had the one thing saying, oh, yeah. Some anonymous sources said, well, yeah, this is the case and everything like that, that he he ordered the hit the second hit and everything like that. Yeah. So he specifically said, kill them all. Right. Right. And then the New York Post came back with one that from also   sources that could not be on the record that's   that said, no. No. He didn't order anything. It's like, well,   which one is it, people? You know? It's like   so   it's all jackassery,   the whole thing. You know? It's like, okay. So maybe we shouldn't have bombed somebody after we bombed them once. You know? But, you know, who who said that bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again? You know? That that that's just what you it's kinda what you do and Yeah. Sort of thing. I   it's   nothing's pretty in war, so I I I don't personally, I don't care either way on this one. But Right.  



[00:11:14] Jamon Fries:

I love how how some people are still trying to say that these are just fishermen.  

[00:11:19] Jesse Fries:

Right?   A fisherman running drugs. It's like Yeah. A fisherman  

[00:11:24] Jamon Fries:

trying to fish in boats  

[00:11:26] Jesse Fries:

that go faster than any other boat on the ocean. They have a whole bunch of big boxes on top of them. Yeah. It's Yeah.  

[00:11:35] Jamon Fries:

Big huge bales of something.  

[00:11:37] Jesse Fries:

This isn't a fishing trawler that you can see, like, up and down the seaboard. You know? No. No. No.  

[00:11:43] Jamon Fries:

This is a speedboat that has cargo   area.  

[00:11:48] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And you see the boxes on the board on top of these things. So   yeah. No. No. I'm sorry.   And they may be fishermen, but, you know, not in that time. It yeah.  

[00:12:02] Jamon Fries:

It it maybe it it if they're when they're not running the drugs, they're fishermen. I mean, that's that would be completely plausible. They're used to the sea. It would make sense to to hire them to to do it. Nope. Exactly. Exactly.  

[00:12:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Fishermen are generally poor, so, you know, they need some extra cash, you know, that sort of thing. You know? You know? It's okay. Absolutely.   Yeah.  

[00:12:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's just crazy. It is. It is.  

[00:12:31] Jesse Fries:

Okay. What you got?  

[00:12:32] Jamon Fries:

Trump   is,   you you know, the fuel economy standards that Biden put on all the vehicles of Right. Has to attain 50 something per gallons per mile. Yeah. The cafe. Yep. Yeah. Trump is getting rid of that and dropping it back down to 34.   Well It's a lot of a lot of auto dealers are very happy with because we actually have technology that can hit that, whereas we don't that can hit 50.  

[00:12:58] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. The 50, it's for the entire fleet. So, basically, what that means is that, you you have to add EVs in there. Yeah. Yeah. And once you add the EVs in there, then you can get up to that 50. But   this is fine and dandy, but he already basically got rid of these things, like, from day one.  

[00:13:18] Jamon Fries:

Well, he but he didn't change the rule for the for the fuel efficiency. So No. That that's true. But Yeah. He made the penalties zero.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. No. I I without a doubt. Yeah. See, he he did address it from day one. Right. But now he's just making it official. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, even 34, that's pretty high. You know? It's not Oh, hell yeah. I'd love to have a vehicle that could get 34.  

[00:13:44] Jesse Fries:

Seriously. I can't even remember what   car I've ever had that got 34. Maybe the   Ford z x two I had. Maybe that one. I think that may have got 35 because that thing was tiny.  

[00:13:57] Jamon Fries:

I've never gotten it. I've never owned a car that got more than 29.   Yeah. Yeah.   Not as the sticker label sticker says. No. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah. Well,  

[00:14:09] Jesse Fries:

that's cool, though. That is cool. Yeah.  

[00:14:13] Jamon Fries:

And,   you know,   he he's also trying to do he's also hinting at doing something that   is okay.   Uh-huh. It could be very interesting.   It could work out great,   but I also can see some potential flaws with it. So he's he's,   thinking about   trying to get everyone to agree to   use an   Australian the Australian method of, retirement programs.   Okay. Whatever that is. Social Security or something like that. Well, I mean, I I think there'll still be Social Security, actually. But, so what in Australia, there there's rules, there's laws that when you were when you are employed,   regardless of it's part time, full time, whatever   Uh-huh. If you have employment,   your employer is required to put 12%   of your,   income  

[00:15:15] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Into a retirement savings account. Okay. Kinda That's a high amount. Basic.  

[00:15:21] Jamon Fries:

It is a very high amount.   And with there is absolutely no opt out of this. So unlike here in The US right now, where   it's up to the employer whether they match four zero one k or whether they, you know, even offer four zero one k's. Right. Part time employees don't have access to the four zero one k savings accounts and stuff like that.   So this would make it so that every employer   had to put that much of your income into it.   They they wouldn't be paying for it themselves. I don't think   I think it it would just be part of the pay package. Okay. So so a person's payroll may actually decline a little bit, but   it would be part it would just instead of it being an incentive that a company could use   to retain their people, like, we'll match 50% on your four zero one k versus this company is not gonna match anything. Mhmm.  

So it's more of an incentive to to become employed with them. It would become something that everyone just blanket has to do.  

[00:16:28] Jesse Fries:

Makes sense to me.  

[00:16:30] Jamon Fries:

And so right now, Australia   is,   like, one of the   they're one of the countries that has,   like, it's in the top five, I think, it said.  

[00:16:45] Jesse Fries:

They said the fourth largest.  

[00:16:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The fourth largest in the world   Mhmm. As far as their their retirement accounts go. Right. Right. But they're the fifty fifth largest   country in the Yeah. World. Yeah. The fifty fifth largest population wise, but third of the fourth largest,   savings.   That's not bad. That's no. That that's pretty damn good.   And since it goes to everyone, you know, it would potentially include,   I I haven't read anything that specifically says that it includes,   part time, but it does say every employer. So I'm assuming that it would be even part time employees. No. It would make sense too. Yeah.   So even so whether you work part time, full time, whatever, you would have a, say, a,   a retirement account being built for you,   which I think would be awesome. I mean, it it Yeah. No. It is. That that everyone have puts money aside for their for retirement.  



[00:17:40] Jesse Fries:

Makes sense to me. You know? I I see nothing. It it'd be better than Social Security.   Yeah.   Yeah. No. Because 12% usually, that that'll gain quick. You know? That's a good  

[00:17:52] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   Especially if you start at 18. Holy hell. You can have Yeah. Yeah. You'll be living damned well when you retire if you start at 18 putting 12% away. Oh, yeah. Complete   no. That's cool. Yeah. No. No. Australia started originally at 3%, but then they've slowly built it up to 12%.   So I don't know. We probably wouldn't start at the 12%,   but Right. You know? Right. It it could be somewhere around there.  

[00:18:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. 3%. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty low. It'd still be nice, but, it's still pretty low. The 12%, that basically take care of you for the rest of your life. You'd be set. Yeah. You really wouldn't even have to cover anything else of your own. I I I just wonder how the system is set up. Is it   can anybody else access it? You know, how they they the federal government has loved to access Social Security as a little fund of their own?  

[00:18:40] Jamon Fries:

No. These are all in private accounts like a 401K is. Oh, okay.   So no. Only you can access it if they just have the   legal requirements   of age to be able to access them, that you can access early just like you can with four zero one k, but there's penalties and stuff like that. So Right. Right. Yeah. It's essentially the exact same thing as a 401K   account from what I understand.  

[00:19:05] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Nice. Sounds good to me. Yeah. I'm I'm 401.   Yep.  

[00:19:10] Jamon Fries:

And if we did that, then people relying on Social Security would be reduced.   Because right now, Social Security for many people is their only form of retirement.  

[00:19:19] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:19:21] Jamon Fries:

And so we could eventually   weed out social security.   Now, I'm I there are always gonna be people that need that extra help.   Well, right. Right. Disabled, maybe they weren't working their entire life. Completely. Completely. Yeah.   Some sort of thing. Thing. But yeah. No. That's, Yeah. So so I I think social c social security would still exist, but it would become more of a,   social welfare benefit   versus a   retirement benefit.  

[00:19:50] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Yeah. No. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to me.  

[00:19:54] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:19:55] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. So, apparently,   our diplomats are not happy.   So   this is foreign service officers.   About 98%   of them felt lower morale,   under Trump,   and only 1%   reported increased ability to carry out US foreign policy under Trump.   I I don't feel sorry for these people.   The way the foreign service has worked   in history is basically especially   since   the Cold War started, World War two,   they've been able to do whatever they want,   literally. Yeah.   They they work with the CIA. These people could basically get anything done they want, whatever their policy is, and they're always listened to.   Always listened to. If they say something, basically,   every president has gone,   well, let's do that then.  

Every time. And so now now that we have a president that has a different opinion on how the world should work,   and he's actually doing something about it, unlike his first term Yeah.   I I have no sympathy for these people. Get over it. You know, your job is to do what the president wants, not to do what you want. Yes. You do not dictate how foreign relations happen. It's the president that does that.  

[00:21:14] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. He's like, he it always should be. He goes, this is the way it should be. Should should they listen to you sometimes?   But if they don't listen to you, it's because you're full of shit and you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. No. And it's not Trump's fault that most presidents have bowed or kowtowed to you, to your expertise  

[00:21:33] Jesse Fries:

per se. Yeah. You know? Hey. This is Trump. He's following his own gut, and, well, that's his job. And it's your job to follow his orders. Plain and simple. Yeah. This is why you get paid. And, you know, the the big difference between Trump and the former presidents  

[00:21:49] Jamon Fries:

is that Trump actually has experience with international negotiations   with international things like that. Whereas the former I don't think we have a single former president in the in the twenty first century anyways   that has   known anything really about foreign   anything.   Well as an expertise and not having dealt with it in the past.  

[00:22:15] Jesse Fries:

No. Bush senior did. He was CIA.   He was director of CIA. That that's right.  

[00:22:23] Jamon Fries:

So I would say another problem in and of itself. But  

[00:22:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. But he was director of CIA, so he was the deep state. And so he was just the deep state on top of the deep state. So Yep.   Yeah. You you you know, Eisenhower, he was a general, and so he had to deal with   all the foreign powers during World War two. So I guess he probably knows that. So yeah. No. I I I think we've had some.  

[00:22:48] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. I the great majority of them haven't. It and it's been a while. Oh, yes. It's been a long while.   A long while.   So but yeah. So What? In the eighties?  

[00:23:01] Jesse Fries:

He was,   from '89.   '89 to '93, he was president.   Okay. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:23:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So I was still in high school at the time. So   yeah.  

[00:23:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That was over thirty years ago.  

[00:23:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It was. It was. So Yeah. That was a long time ago.  

[00:23:21] Jesse Fries:

Or just a short blip of the moment. You know? One or the other. You know? Tis but a moment.   But yeah. So I I don't feel sorry for these, foreign service officers. I really don't. I I I've always loved foreign policy. I've always loved that sort of thing and everything like that. And you know something? It's   when you   come down to it, you you may think you know what you do and everything like that, but it's usually the major players that actually get shit done.   You know? It's like,   our   when we got together with, China, the People's Republic Of China, you know, it's   Uh-huh. During Nixon's years. You know? That that was Kissinger. You know? He yes. He he was state department, but, you know, that was Kissinger. That was him to try to pull this all together and everything like that and Nixon. Oh, yeah. But mostly Kissinger. You know? See, yes, there's some, but   you have to count You have to you, the foreign service officer, has to kowtow to the president. This is the way it is. Absolutely.  

And if you think you can do it otherwise,   you know,   maybe we should just   maybe you should find a new job. You to find a new job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just   yeah. Mhmm. That's how I view those people. You know, they're they're   Yep. It's a fascinating   line of work, but   yeah. Yeah.  

[00:24:44] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Now on to   some state news.  

[00:24:48] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:24:50] Jamon Fries:

I I I I found this story interesting   for two aspects. So Mhmm. You you know who Mike Lindell is?   Yeah. Yeah. My pillow. Anybody out here who doesn't know who he is. The My Pillow guy. My Pillow   guy. So he has decided that he's gonna run for Minnesota governor 2026.  

[00:25:09] Jesse Fries:

Is he from Minnesota? Against Waltz. Yes. He is. My pillow is from Minnesota. I did not know that. Oh, good.  

[00:25:15] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep.   But the the, article that I ran across,   and I you know, everything that Mike that Lindell has gone through,   you know, with everything   with IRS coming after his company with, you know, the banks debanking him and all this other stuff. Right.   This this news, this media   puts their headline,   pro Trump conspiracy   theorist, Mike Lindell, files to run for Minnesota governor. And so they're like, you know, it's not really a conspiracy when they did it to you.  

[00:25:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. It really isn't. Isn't. But, of course, it is. Because this is how the media works. You know? It's like if you're pro Trump and   it's a conspiracy. Of course. You know? It's a Yeah. Yeah.   Absolutely.   Theories can be right. I'm just saying. You know? It's, oh, definitely. I mean,  

[00:26:09] Jamon Fries:

you just all you have to do to know that is look at Alex Jones' record.   Yes. He's a massive conspiracy theorist, but he's been right about a lot of shit.  

[00:26:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But really wrong about the Sandy Hook shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.   That's the He's very right about some, but he's extremely wrong about others. Yeah. He should let that one go. And he just couldn't. I it's just I swear to god. It's like Candace Owens now. Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now now I just read something where she's saying that all his friends knew that he was gonna be assassinated, and they okayed it. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?   Are you fucking kidding me?   It's   like   I I swear to God. Oh my god. Yeah.  

Why are you doubling down on this? You know, I I just don't get it. It's just Because the money's there.   Oh, probably so. Because Democrats   will pay her to say it. Oh, it's not just Democrats, Jamen. No.   I know it's not. But these are conspiracy theorists. Groups.  

[00:27:12] Jamon Fries:

Any any group,   there there's definitely the conspiracy theorist people that will bite into   anything that   sounds unreal.   But then there's also the ones   that   are trying to   make it so that Charlie Kirk is not a martyr.   Right. Right. Right. Right. And so that would be mostly the people on the left  

[00:27:40] Jesse Fries:

that would be trying that would be saying, yeah. Keep saying that. We'll give you lots of money. Well, it's those and then also the anti Israelis and everything like that because because she's, like, going well. He turned against,   Israel, and that's why they took him out and everything. It's like, I'm just Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:27:59] Jamon Fries:

It's like It's a   I I just don't She has just gone batshit crazy, and you can't really believe anything she says anymore. No. You really can't. Not a single thing. I mean, I I haven't heard anything that she says that sounds even reasonable.  

[00:28:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Not not not a single thing lately. It's been   No.   Yeah. Yeah.   She's she's gone.   She's like Crockett. Just gone.   Yeah. Crockett Crockett crazy. I like that one. Crockett. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I I'm talking about the, representative from Houston. Yes.   Yes. That apparently I I do as much. Yes. Okay. Apparently, I just saw a news story that that Crockett lady, she has a,   a   a HOA at in a condo place in Dallas   that has a lien on her house for, like, $3,000.   It's a multimillion dollar thing, but she won't pay   it. And so they put a lien on it. It's like okay.  

Okay.  

[00:28:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Well, you know, she does seem like the kind that would fall into those timeshare schemes.  

[00:29:06] Jesse Fries:

That is true. That is true. That is true.   Speaking of, well, state news, since we're covering that, we might as well take one of these ones. It's illegal, but   so   you you you know the whole Somali   fraud and everything like that. Right?   Yeah. Okay. So there was this one case   up in   Minnesota   where   the jury found them guilty on, like, six   charges. Right?  

[00:29:35] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:29:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Found guilty of robbing innocent taxpayers through a home health care care company,   called Promise Health in   August.   A jury found that he and his wife,   ran a deceitful Medicaid fraud scheme out of mail out of a mailbox.   Yeah. So, basically, she they were found guilty. You know? And then they would use that money,   that they defrauded, and they'd go to Coach or,   Canada Goose, whatever that is. Nike, the Michael Kors. You know? They buy high end cars   and purses. Okay. Right? So they're found guilty. Right?   This judge,   Sarah West,   she actually acquitted them after they were found guilty.  

Wait. What?   Yeah. They were found guilty,   and she acquitted them.   She said that,   the case relied heavily on circumstantial   evidence and that the state of Minnesota did not rule out other potential   potential reasonable interferences.   And so because of that,   it's   she acquitted   it. Yep. Is she an appeals judge? No. She she's she was a trial judge. Judge? Trial judge.  

[00:30:53] Jamon Fries:

When the when the trial   in a jury trial, the trial judge  

[00:30:58] Jesse Fries:

has no way once at least Yes. They do. Oh, yes. They do. They have complete rights in the gate. Yes.  

[00:31:05] Jamon Fries:

I I I knew that I knew that during the case,   the lawyers could bring up these things and the judge could rule on it. No. No. No. At the end, judges can just go, no jury's wrong.  

[00:31:18] Jesse Fries:

This is how it works. Okay. It's always been this way.   It just never happens.  

[00:31:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   But if I this is the first time I've ever heard of it actually happening. Yeah. Yeah. I always knew that I know I always knew that they had control over everything, but,   this is the first time I've ever actually heard of it happening. Wow. But then Yeah. On top of that, another  

[00:31:41] Jesse Fries:

thing that never happens happened,   the prosecutors of that case are appealing   the judge's decision on acquittal.   This never happens either. Usually, prosecutors are going, well, it's acquittal. I guess I'm   I'm out. But no. They are appealing this.  

[00:31:58] Jamon Fries:

Oh, of course.   Yeah. I know it actually happened. I mean, it's  

[00:32:03] Jesse Fries:

It's like the bad. The jury, if you read the story of the jury, the foreman and everything like that is, like, what the hell was she think? It was four hours. It was a four hour deliberation. That's it. And they go That's short. Yeah. Oh, six charges. And they go, yeah. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. They say the the jury said, yeah. There's a lot of evidence here. And the judge is going, it's all circumstantial.   You know? It's like   yeah. Yeah. Wow.   Remember her name, judge Sarah West. She looks awfully young. I'm just saying. So maybe not a lot of experience on the bench.   But yeah. Yeah. Can you believe that?  



[00:32:44] Jamon Fries:

No. That's that's insane.  

[00:32:46] Jesse Fries:

It really is insane. Minneapolis.   Minneapolis is freaking crazy, dude. I I just They are. Yes.  

[00:32:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I just don't get it. It seemed so sane when we lived there.   It seemed a little seemed sane when we lived there.  

[00:33:02] Jesse Fries:

The world was sadder when we were young. Yeah. That was back in '9 I mean, we we left in '93. So, you know Yeah. That was quite a while ago. But That was before all this craziness when there was actually right and wrong when they resolved it sort of thing. You know, nowadays, there's no such thing as right and wrong, you know? So  

[00:33:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:33:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Yeah.   Crazy. Right?  

[00:33:26] Jamon Fries:

Very crazy. Yes.  

[00:33:29] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. What else do I have?   Oh,   speaking of judges,   Trump,   his the administration fired eight immigration   judges in New York.   Damn.   And this is on top of let's see. Where is this story?   What did I do with this story? There it is. About 90 immigration judges have actually been fired this year   all across The United States.   And there's about 600 immigration judges nationwide.   36 of the fire judges have been replaced.   But, yeah, it looks like it it's basically because they weren't doing what, Trump wanted them to do.   So they because because   it's they're not really judges. They're part of they're really technically part of the administration.  

You're not actually part of judicial sis the judicial system. Right. And so, basically, I mean, Trump an entirely different system. Yeah. Yeah. So Trump can actually just go, okay. We don't like you.   You're not doing what we want, so let's get other ones in there. So yeah. Yeah.   Mhmm.  

[00:34:42] Jamon Fries:

Makes sense.  

[00:34:43] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Let's see here. Now,   the big news.   The the pipe bomber. They caught the pipe bomber from Jan six.  

[00:34:54] Jamon Fries:

Oh, hell yes.  

[00:34:57] Jesse Fries:

So, apparently, it's some guy from Virginia.  

[00:35:02] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:35:05] Jesse Fries:

But, see, the thing is is that this whole arrest,   it it's probably gonna cause a lot of issues for the bureau   because the bureau, they   because the bureau, they had this enormous team,   that was assigned to the pipe bomb investigation.   Right?   Right. And they collected a whole bunch of evidence in '21 and in '22.   Mhmm. Right? And, well, this arrest   doesn't come from any new information.   This arrest only goes back to that information that was found in 2122.  

[00:35:36] Jamon Fries:

Oh,   fuck.   So It's time for a housecleaning.  

[00:35:41] Jesse Fries:

Right? Right? This development could also be seen as a vindication   of Bongino   because big time. Yeah. Because he really has focused on that case quite a bit. Yep.   When he was, podcasting and everything like that, he wouldn't leave it up or anything like that. Right? Yeah.   And he basically said that it was like an inside job   is what he said. Now he hasn't said that it's an inside job lately,   But Right.   The FBI   not doing anything   kinda shows   or at least, it's, okay. It's that that was okay with us, you know, sort of situation. Especially if it's It was all the same information.  

[00:36:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. If it's absolutely new information, that means that they knew exactly who it was,  

[00:36:31] Jesse Fries:

and they just sat on it and didn't do anything. It's either that or they're they were completely incompetent one or the other. It's not a good look either way. I suppose that would be rejected. No, it's horrible.  

[00:36:44] Jamon Fries:

I would rather believe that they were corrupt.   Yeah, that they were corrupt.   Because if they're just incompetent,   I   I there were so many people that had their eyes on that stuff. I mean, you know Right.   Yeah. What's the reason for the FBI anymore if they're that incompetent?  

[00:37:04] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. So yeah. Yeah. So but they caught they they they caught him. So that's good at least. No. That that makes me wonder if it was if they were,  

[00:37:14] Jamon Fries:

remember the story that came out not terribly long ago   saying that it was that the that it was someone from the Capitol Police that planted bombs? Right. Right. Right.   So did it say that did it say who this guy worked for? Was he part of the Capitol Police? Or was No. No. No. He was some random guy. They they said he was just some anarchist.  

[00:37:35] Jesse Fries:

So Okay. Okay. So Antifa, whatnot. I don't know. Yeah.  

[00:37:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It it's good to know that it wasn't someone from the Capitol Police that did it. Right? Exactly.   Yes. Put an entirely different spin on everything.  

[00:37:49] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. Apparently, they had all the information to lead to this guy,   back Mhmm. Three, four years ago now.   Yep. Yep. This is crazy.   I hate   It really is.   Let's see here. What else? Oh,   good news. You know, there's actually good news out there. So and this is local news to me. Very, very local news.   Okay. But also national news all at the same time. So,   Michael Dell, you know who he is. Right?  

[00:38:21] Jamon Fries:

I'm assuming by the name Dell that he has something to do with Dell computers? Yeah. He's the owner, operator, founder of Dell computers. Right.  

[00:38:30] Jesse Fries:

So have you heard of Trump accounts?   No. I have not. Okay. So Trump accounts are this,   way to help   children, newborns,   start investing in the stock market and everything like that.   Okay.   It's a   federal   thing,   that they will do.   And so, basically, they can use they'll be able to gain access to these accounts   once they, I think, hit 18 or something like that.  

[00:39:04] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:39:05] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. So it also allows parents,   to open tax advantage investment   accounts for children and everything like that. Oh, nice. Yep.   And under the federal program, US citizens born   from 2025   through 2028 will receive a federal grant   of $1,000,   to actually seed the account.   Well, that's cool. Yeah. It is.   Now   on top of that so, basically, if you're bored from this year until '28,   you'll you'll get a thousand dollar seed.   Well, what Dell has done, Michael Dell and his wife,   they have committed to see Trump accounts,   with $250   for children who are 10 or under,   who were born before Jan first twenty twenty five.  



[00:39:57] Jamon Fries:

Oh, wow.  

[00:39:58] Jesse Fries:

Right.   Right. So   yeah. So just $250   to every kid as long as the   it's they they live in ZIP codes where the median income is a higher $50,000   or less.   Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. So that's pretty much most ZIP codes.  

[00:40:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:40:19] Jesse Fries:

It definitely is. Yeah. Exactly. There there there's a couple here or there where it's pretty much just all rich people, but that's Yeah. Pretty much most ZIP codes.   So, yeah, they're gonna   just seed   these accounts for children,   that are ten years younger.   So   so if any of you have anybody   that age I do. I actually both my kids somehow fall in that. I don't know how, but just by a whisker,   they fall into that. So I'll probably set up some Trump accounts for them. Just,   I'm not sure if I like the name. I really don't know why they keep throwing the president's name on all these things, you know. But, you know, it's a because Trump puts his name on everything.   Yeah. I know. I know. And we do call it whatever it is. It's like Obamacare. We still call it Obamacare.  

Then there was the Obama phone, if you remember that. Yeah. The Obama phone.   Even though that program had been around long before Obama. Yeah. But, yeah, that his name got stuck onto those phones as well. So, you know, it's   but, yeah, it's kinda cool. It's kinda cool.   Yeah.  

[00:41:25] Jamon Fries:

So check that out. That's definitely awesome. Yeah.  

[00:41:29] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   So I guess let's, go to Europe, because that's all my international news for today.   As I cough.   Let's see here. So   it looks quite a few things here. Let let let's start with,   Germany. So   there was a Muslim woman   who wanted to become a judge   at in Germany, right,   in Hesse or Hesse.   I don't know how you pronounce that area. Hesse, you know, the Hessians.   So, anyways, h e s s e, that area.   So, basically  

[00:42:09] Jamon Fries:

what?  

[00:42:10] Jesse Fries:

That would be house. Okay. Okay. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. But, anyways, so this Muslim woman wanted to become a judge, so she applied to be a judge.   She was rejected   because, in the whole process, they asked   her, would you keep your scarf on?   And she said yes because it's my religion.   The courts now Germany has freedom of religion.   Right? Right. But they also have freedom of religion.   What that means to what what what that has seemed to these,   to   the the administration, the people that were hiring judges, they argue that wearing a religiously symbolic garment,   during judicial proceedings   violates the principle of state neutrality   and could undermine public confidence in the justice system's impartiality.  

So basically say that I can argue with that statement. No. I really can't either. You know? So you're wearing a headscarf.   Oh, k. Yeah. And then if you have an argument where one's Muslim and one's not Muslim,   you're just gonna assume that she's gonna be a little bit more biased towards,   the muzzle. Yep.  

[00:43:24] Jamon Fries:

So yeah. Yeah. For for anything like that, a Yamaka, anything.  

[00:43:28] Jesse Fries:

No. Completely. Completely. Yeah.   Yeah.   No. It makes perfect sense to me. Sense. Yeah. It it's like, I can see both sides. You know? It's, I really can. You know?  

[00:43:41] Jamon Fries:

I I could, you know, I could see an argument that you can't wear,   like, cross jewelry and stuff like that as a judge.  

[00:43:49] Jesse Fries:

No. I'm sure it's the same.  

[00:43:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it's just because as I'm concerned, as long as long as they  

[00:43:57] Jesse Fries:

as long as they they institute that policy around the around the board, then absolutely I love it. Mhmm. No. I'm I'm right with you. I'm right with you. Yeah. I see nothing wrong with that.   So yeah. Yeah. So she won't be a judge,   in Germany.  

[00:44:14] Jamon Fries:

Not too bad for her.   Yeah. Yeah. It may have been her dream. You never know. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:44:20] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   Okay. Let's go get on to Ukraine when it comes to,   this and everything like that. So Europe you know, Trump's pushing for a deal. Right? And we don't know exactly how that's going, how Witkoff is doing with Putin.   Maybe not as well as they would hope or anything like that.   Mhmm.   But, apparently,   Europeans,   they they they they don't like how cozy we seem to be,   with Russia.   Of course not. They they they they think that,   Trump's latest push   to end the war in Ukraine,   it could mean that   Russia isn't punished or weakened,   and so that would cause problems.  

And it would cause continental security problems.  

[00:45:18] Jamon Fries:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't don't they think that just Russia itself existing   causes those problems?  

[00:45:24] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. But,   see see, this is the problem with Europe. Okay?   Europe has this grudge mentality.   Right? Yeah. The the and it seems like they haven't learned from history   because   after World War one, the Versailles treaty completely   fucked over the Germans. Like,   completely   screwed them over, caused massive inflation,   caused the rise of Hitler, if you ask me.   It was   all   due to the Versailles Treaty.  

[00:45:58] Jamon Fries:

Yes.   Because they wanted they wanted to cut their pound of flesh.  

[00:46:02] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. And that was a huge pound of flesh. And they want the same from Russia, and they don't think the same would happen?   I I Well, what what I don't quite get,  

[00:46:13] Jamon Fries:

what exactly   where exactly is the pound of flesh coming because of?   Has Russia   ever   done anything militarily   to   Europe   No. Other than helping to defeat Germany?  

[00:46:28] Jesse Fries:

Recently, no.   No. Not not not within, I would say, the last   two hundred years, if not more. Yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. There there were a lot of wars back in the day between Germany and Russia Oh, yeah. Prussia and what I mean, all those things. Yeah. Holy Roman Empire. But back when it was back when there were empires and kings and there were No. Yeah. Completely. Completely. Take land from each other. I mean, that's just the normal way things always went. I mean Yeah. They would war and then they'd be allies and then in war, then they'd be allies. Yeah. It was, yeah. But so at at the same point, you know, why isn't  

[00:47:00] Jamon Fries:

that Great Britain   isn't trying to get France's   pound of flesh, you know?   They they target Russia   as if Russia had done something to them recently.   They But they happened.  

[00:47:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. See, the thing is is this is Yeah. It's a different form of government. No. This is how the Western   No. This is how the western   Europeans   view   life.   They view that if they that they need to take you down. They they they they they need to Mhmm. Make it so that you can't fight back. That's the way they think.   Yeah. The it's how it's   it's like with World War one,   Germany was a rising power, and   England could not handle it.   And so they did everything, and they they basically go, yeah. We'll we'll go to war sooner or later because, yeah, we don't like Germany getting so strong.   Yeah.  



[00:47:58] Jamon Fries:

You know, we we also did that At that point in time, it it yeah. That that happens all the time when when large countries   are trying to hang on to their hegemony.  

[00:48:08] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. You know, we did the same thing to Japan. You know, that's why Japan started attacking us because we cut off their iron supplies and everything like that. Yeah.   But,   you you know, it it's   trying to remember where I was going with that.   But   yeah. No. Just trying to   stop that. You you need to follow our The United States example   of after the war after World War two. Yeah. Look at what we did to After World our enemies. Well, I mean, with with Japan, with Europe Germany. I  

[00:48:40] Jamon Fries:

mean, Germany,  

[00:48:42] Jesse Fries:

we rebuilt them. You don't punish them. You rebuild them. And they become stronger. And Japan and us, we are so tight. Civilized. Yes.   We are tight, like, tight   tight.   You you know, it's not  

[00:48:56] Jamon Fries:

that's just what it is. Us and Germany, we're tight too. They they complain about us a bit more than Japan does. But Yeah. Well, that that's because they have all of Europe surrounding them. I mean, you know, it's the They're also Europeans. They have, you know. Yes. They have the influence of Europe,   on them. But I mean, like, Japan you look at Japan. I mean,   yes. They were our enemy.   They fought us.   But when we took over,   their military   lifestyle   that   was still had remnants back to the Shogun eras Right. Right.   Was completely   eradicated.  

No. Yeah. Completely.   Which means that   I mean, I I won't say that they won't go back to that again, but   at least it would take a lot to get them there. Yeah. I know. And there would be massive signs that it was coming. Completely. Completely.  

[00:49:53] Jesse Fries:

But also,   you you also have to add in the mix of this that   Europeans   do especially Western Europeans, they do not like Russians. They don't even like Slavic people. They really don't.   They they they think of them, yeah. They're Europeans, but even Russians, they go, you're not really you're you're straddling They they they begrudge  

[00:50:13] Jamon Fries:

they begrudge the European aspect.  

[00:50:16] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Then they go, yeah. No. You're just trying to pretend. That's all they think. Yep. They they look down on Russia. They've looked down on the Russian court for, like, forever. It's just what Europeans   do.   Yeah. And so yeah. No. I   but Well, Europe Europe really has to get out of that mentality. They really do.  

[00:50:34] Jamon Fries:

They do. Yes.   I mean, Europe has always looked down on everyone.   Yeah. That's what brought about the colonial ages. That's what brought about   90%   of the wars that Europe gets involved in. Oh, yeah.   That's that's what that's what brought about the extension of the Ukraine war far beyond where it should have gone. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   It's because they look down on Russia.   Yeah. Yep. Like,   they're they're just they're just piss ants. What the hell could they do to it to win this war? They they don't have a chance. Mhmm. So, yeah, you need to you need to keep fighting. We'll help you. Don't worry. Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll be there for you. So more millions of you are good. Give us everything.  

[00:51:18] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly.   Okay. Last story about,   Russia or not Russia, but, Europe. So,   apparently, we're rubbing off on Europe.  

[00:51:29] Jamon Fries:

Oh, how's that?  

[00:51:32] Jesse Fries:

They are starting to like bigger cars.   They call it car spreading. It's about damn time.   Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Critics are are awesome.   I I think so too. They're safer. Everything. You know? It's just Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of,   even cities and the small little towns are trying to stop it and everything like that because, you know, they have their nice little cars and their nice little streets and their nice little blah blah blah blah blah. Well, I mean, well,  

[00:52:03] Jamon Fries:

con considering that those nice little streets and those nice little towns   were all designed for horse and buggy era Right. Right. It's not surprising that they don't have the ability to fit those huge ass vehicles in them. No. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, it's like  

[00:52:20] Jesse Fries:

some of these, they're just because they're, like, midsize here.   You know? Yeah. It's it's not like because usually, they drive, like, Ford Fiestas or whatnot. You know, those tiny little things. So, you know, it's like you know, it's it's Over there, a Volkswagen a Volkswagen Beetle is a large vehicle.   Exactly. Exactly. So   but yeah. So they're starting to come around. The bigger is better. We're rubbing off on them. I think they see our cars in the TVs,   and in the movies, and they go, oh, I like that one. Oh, I like that one. Yeah. Well, not not only that, but you also look at all of the sports cars.   Mhmm.  



[00:53:00] Jamon Fries:

Even the European made sports cars are very large. They're very wide   because No. They're very wide. They're trying to be able to take corners at speeds and stuff. And   so,   yes, they   they're even even their upper level vehicles, you know, the Mhmm. The Bentleys and stuff like that. Those are all very large vehicles compared to everything else that the normal people drive in Europe.  

[00:53:26] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:53:28] Jamon Fries:

So, yeah, it just makes sense. I mean, larger vehicles   to Europe   may actually have a,   they wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised   if the larger your vehicle was, the more   the more financially stable you you presented yourself as.   Possibly. Possibly. Because they're all of their expensive cars are large.  

[00:53:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It's true. It's true. And speaking of financially stable, we here at the Mindless Meanderings are a value for value   podcast.   What this means is that,   we need your help, help to produce the show, and we will make you a actual producer.   You can do this by sending us money,   either through PayPal or, I'm thinking of setting up a Stripe account and everything like that. Pod Home will has a nice system for that, so we'll probably add that to the show so it's easier to send us money. So anything you can help   send will help. A dollar, $300,   $2. It doesn't matter. Apparently,   some kid got arrested for a $2 bill at a school, though, in Houston. So   Oh, damn. I'll accept them, though, because $2 bills are real money. Just saying. They are.  

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So you can help us out with ideas as well. You can or images,   sound jingles, whatnot. You can email those to me at jesse@minusc.com   or also to jamen@jamenatmindlessmehandlings.com.   All complaints go to him,   of course. And anything you   anything you could do, will help us out. So please help us out in any which way you can.   And let's see here. What, so on to business news, I take it.  

[00:55:08] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. So   we wanna start with the   fun one, the disturbing   one, or the   that's kind of weird one.  

[00:55:20] Jesse Fries:

My answer is yes. Just pick one. Let's go.  

[00:55:23] Jamon Fries:

Alright. Well, let's go let's go with the   the one that I like the least. Uh-huh.   So there's a company called similar Simular   out there   that is trying to design   a AI agent   to run your entire   computer now instead of just your,   your search bar.  

[00:55:49] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:55:51] Jamon Fries:

They want you they want it so that it can   you can work with every program you put on your computer and everything else like that.   But   to me,   this   seems more like a   scheme   to get a whole   bunch of user information   out of you.   Because, you know, right now, they right now, they can they know which what websites you look at. They know what your search what your search results are and all that other stuff.   But with this,   they will know every program you run on your computer.  

[00:56:36] Jesse Fries:

Well, all your files, everything. Every  

[00:56:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Everything   about you have on your computer will be known to them. Which means if you're trying to start up a business and you have some great ideas and you accidentally put them into a computer,   they will know about them and can steal them from you.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I no. Thank you. No. Thank you. I'm good. I You know, I mean, some something like this, an AI agent, would be interesting and would be cool,   but it would have to be   designed so that it could fit solely on your personal computer Oh, completely. And could not communicate any of that information with the outside world. No. Completely. If they would design it in that manner, I'm fully for it because it would be very awesome   to be able to just sit here and talk to the computer and say, hey. Can you build me a spreadsheet to do this? Uh-huh. Yeah. No. Completely. Completely. I mean, I'm with you on that one. But Yeah. Yeah. No no outside. And as long as it as long as it's local to your computer and has absolutely zero out zero exterior  

[00:57:39] Jesse Fries:

contact. No. I I'm with you. I'm right. Except for zoo browsers. No. I'm not letting them touch it. Yeah.   No. I'm with you. I'm with you on that one, James. I'm with you on that one. Mhmm.  

[00:57:51] Jamon Fries:

And then,   another one that,   you know, there's   I I was gonna wait till later on in the show till we got to op ed stuff to mention this. But Uh-huh.   The,   so I'm gonna go ahead and bring this one up here.   The,   someone from Day One Ventures, her name is Marsha Butcher.   She she essentially she is kind of a venture capitalist. She helps companies helps finance companies and stuff like that. Mhmm. She she did a she did a talk where she was where she said   that every new company founder   needs to be an influencer.  

[00:58:35] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:58:37] Jamon Fries:

Which I completely disagree with. Right. Right.   On one aspect. Now Mhmm. It is true that right now, currently,   if you're starting up a new company,   98%   of the time, you need to be you need to have a public face. Face. You need to be on social media Mhmm. So that people know about you. Right.   But do you know what that means?   That means that 98%   of the of the companies that are started   do not have an original   in as an original   distinct   product that stands out from everyone else.   No. That's true. If you have a product that nobody else can do,   it doesn't matter if you have a public face or not. Well, care. Want it because nothing else can do it. Well I mean, it it it it may it may If nobody knows about it. Faster. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you   you have to be able to get the information that you're about about your product out. But if you have a new inventive product and it and you can get the information out, you don't necessarily have to do it with your own face. Oh, yeah. Completely.  

You don't have to be an influencer because it's a brand new product that only you can supply. No. Completely. Completely. Yeah. No. It But if it's if you're just starting up another company that's gonna research into AI or something like that   without any breakthroughs or anything, yes,   Absolutely. You need to be you need to have your name out there so that everybody knows to give you money for it. Yeah. Or the next company that sells TikTok shit again. Yeah.   Yes. Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:00:12] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I mean That of course. But Or or  

[01:00:15] Jamon Fries:

or like 90% of the of of retail out there. Mhmm. All they are doing is reselling somebody else's product. They don't actually make the product themselves. Oh, completely. So, yes. In order in order to get people to buy from you rather than the 50,000,000 other people selling the exact same product,   yeah, sure, you need to be an influencer.   But Mhmm. If you actually had a real distinct product,   you wouldn't need it. Yep.   Very true. And considering that a real distinct   product,   Auto Lane is Uh-huh. A new new upcoming company that is trying to   set up a   sort of air traffic control for autonomous vehicles. Okay. So they they're they're trying to, get in touch with a whole bunch of businesses and stuff like that. They're only they're only interested in businesses,   not public areas or anything like that. Uh-huh. Where   the   say you're looking at a a McDonald's restaurant. Somebody wants to set up a stop. If the McDonald's restaurant wants to set up a stop for the for autonomous vehicles to drop customers off there.  



[01:01:26] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:01:27] Jamon Fries:

Well,   Auto Lane   wants to be a go between between the autonomous   company   driver driving company   and the business   to say, okay. This is the location and this is the direction that you should approach it from to drop your cost to drop your customers off here.  

[01:01:47] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So another middle man to make that Why the  

[01:01:50] Jamon Fries:

hell   do we need someone in between to do that? I would think that the autonomous vehicle creators   or Waymo   or, you know, the,   Uber, all of them, because they're all using autonomous vehicles as well now. One would think that you would just say,   this is where you drop off your customers. They should negotiate with the with the company. Why does there have to be another company in between that's just going to raise the prices on everything?  

[01:02:19] Jesse Fries:

Well, it it just be like all these map,   things that we have. Yeah. You know, it's like so there's Apple Map, there's Google Maps, and everything like that. If you have a business Yeah. You can log in and you can tell   Google and Apple what your store hours are, where the location is. So why can't you they just add one there to where okay. This is the drop point. You know? It's that easy. Right? For for autonomous  

[01:02:41] Jamon Fries:

vehicles, it has to be a   exact GPS location   and routing information has to be installed into the programming for it.   So it would require communication between the two. It wouldn't just be Okay. So a company can go and say, this is where we wanna go. So a thirty minute phone call. Okay. Congratulations. Yeah. Exactly. It it takes nothing.   Yeah. I mean, I I I would think that either the business or the autonomous vehicle manufacturer   or or operator.   Right. Would be more than willing to talk with each other to set those up.  

[01:03:15] Jesse Fries:

Oh, well.   Somebody's just trying to make a book. This came about  

[01:03:19] Jamon Fries:

this came about after a Waymo,   tried to got into an accident trying to navigate   a Chick fil A drive through lane   because of how it dropped off a passenger.  

[01:03:33] Jesse Fries:

That's hilarious.   That's hilarious.   Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Love it.   Okay. And then  

[01:03:42] Jamon Fries:

Uh-huh. You wanna do yours? It doesn't matter.   Okay.   So another one is,   Zillow.   Mhmm.   I've been using them quite frequently lately, trying to find a new place to move to. Right.   And there is one aspect about their website that I have absolutely fallen in love with. Mhmm.   And that is that you can check   their climate risk scores.   Okay. What it what this tells you is it tells you the possibilities of of of earthquakes.   Uh-huh. You know, it ranks at one out of 10. It's the lower number the better. One through 10 on earthquakes, on fires, on flooding, on all this other stuff. So   they they they look at the historical data from the area, and there's an external company that that rates   the likelihood of a natural event happening in your in that where that house is. Okay.  

And so Zillow Incorporated this,   year or two ago. They they brought this in. And   I I've looked at it and, you know, I've I've specifically avoided houses where it said that the risk of a flood is seven or eight or nine, you know. I don't know. Imagine that. Those places. Imagine that.   So Zillow has decided now that they're going to to   give in to the realtors   Mhmm. And drop the climate risk score because the the realtoring agents   are complaining about losing those sales because no one wants to buy a house in a place that is problematic   with natural disasters.  



[01:05:19] Jesse Fries:

You know, I've always wanted to build in a fire plane. You know? That Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. No. No. No. No. It's a I   just just if you're looking for a house Just just figure out what this company is and get information from there.  

[01:05:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Absolutely.   Now the the greatest thing the greatest aspect about that was that   it just put the information into the buyer's hands Mhmm. Before making the purchase.   Therefore, if you know that you that your house is locally I mean, it's it's easy to find, you know, where the flood plains and stuff like our that are. You can just you it takes a little bit more work, but Right. It's not difficult to find. Oh, yeah. I mean,   it so   with having those numbers just on Zillow,   it gave the buyer   more information about what could potentially happen to their home when they Yep.   Yep. Well, that's not what real users By removing it Yeah. By removing it, they're making it so that   there is   absolutely no way other than external research   for anyone to know that they may be moving into a flood plain. Yeah. No. That that Or into an area where fires happen quite often or frequently.  



[01:06:36] Jesse Fries:

Yep. That's how it works. That's how it works. That's what realtors real realtors don't want you to it's like they lie on listings. It's like when I bought this house, they lied on the listing.   They said that I was had access to the golf course. I don't have access They   said I was a part of, the the the main, HOA. I'm not part of the main HOA.   You know? It's like,   they're freaking liars. You know? It's, so Yeah.   Oh, let's see here.   So you know how Boeing,   kept having trouble and trouble and trouble, you know, with doors flying off and everything like that? Well, Airbus is I know. Oh, this is   a I we did we talk about how they had to do that whole,   software program? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's another issue. Update.  

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Apparently, they're having issues with   door panels. It's specifically, like, the thickness   the thickness of five specific panels that sit on top of the cockpit   and either side of the jets right and left front doors.   Oh, shit. So, basically, the defects were introduced during the stretching and milling process of the panels. Uh-huh.   And they come directly. And and the the problem is is that they're either   too   thin or they're too thick. The   I don't know how it could be both. But apparently, it could the these panels could either be too thin or too thick. It could be both. In other words, there were massive  

[01:08:04] Jamon Fries:

discrepancies   in the formation of these panels and In the milling process of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the people that they bought it from just did shit work, you know. Yeah. I could understand if it was, like, all of them were thin, then it would just be a simple matter of their tools probably   got miscalibrated   or something like that. But if they're both too thin and too thick, it means that they didn't give a shit about what they were building.  

[01:08:28] Jesse Fries:

It it was probably just a mistake of some sort.   It's,   Spain's it's a Spain co Spanish company called Sofitec,   Aerospace.   Okay.   So, yeah, it's it's probably just, you know, this shit happens every so often. It it it wasn't like it's just a few 100 planes. Don't get me wrong. That's too many.   But   yeah.   But yeah. It's a so it's not just Boeing. Apparently,   Airbus also has the same issues. So Yeah.   Yeah. I love that.  

[01:09:01] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm.   Let's see here. Now This is why I this is why I think that   if you're doing,   any kind of production, you should control everything from the very beginning to the from the mining up.  

[01:09:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's how Ford did it and everything like that, but they've gotten away with that from that sort of thing. Yeah.   Oh, let's see here. Oh, just just a little thing, Jayme. I think legal should be moved up closer to, like,   the actual news, like international, national, that sort of thing. Okay. Just saying. Okay.   Because it always seems disjuring that we go from business to,  

[01:09:38] Jamon Fries:

so to the justice department. You know, the the the fact the fact that everything going into legal now is involving the government is the problem.   It's not There there is nothing legal going out outside of the government, really.   Not to fit in the news anyways. I'm just saying, Jay. Just saying. Not my fault. Damn it. It used to work.  

[01:10:00] Jesse Fries:

Sure. Sure. That one day.   Let's see here. So, apparently so you know how a judge dismissed,   the cases against,   James and Comey? Comey and yeah. Yeah. Well, the justice department is,   expecting to   refile those,   indictments,   against Comey and, Leticia James.   So yep. Yep. So, apparently, they they do wanna go out. They get to redo the grand jury things so that they don't make the mistakes they made last time. They get to Well, all they would have to do now is just to the same grand jury, just go and show them the indictment, and then it's good to go. Yeah. That that's all they'd have to do because grand juries sit.   They hear many different cases, and they sit for a long time.  



[01:10:50] Jamon Fries:

So they're still there. Wasn't there wasn't there stuff about them not  

[01:10:54] Jesse Fries:

seeing everything or something like that? Yeah. Not seeing the full indictment. Not everybody seeing the full indictment. Well, just change it. That's easy to show it. And if they still go, okay, then you're good to go. So  

[01:11:06] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. Makes sense. But, yeah, that's it.   Very cool.   Yeah. So I've got one more business related.   Uh-huh.   Amazon is their contract with the US Postal Service is coming up in 2026.  

[01:11:23] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:11:24] Jamon Fries:

And they are   contemplating   not using them instead   building a competitive   postal service.  

[01:11:35] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Sure.   We'll still have the postal service. It doesn't matter. Yeah.  

[01:11:40] Jamon Fries:

Well,   in the story, that that was one of the reasons one of the reasons that I added the story in there is because   they they hinted that Trump is currently trying to privatize the US Postal Service.   It's trying to to get it to go private and serve the government.  

[01:11:56] Jesse Fries:

I'm not sure if that's possible.  

[01:11:58] Jamon Fries:

Constitution. Yeah. I have no idea.   Because I have no idea. Postal service is constitutional.   Yeah. Well, I So So I think I think so what what it sounds like is Amazon is saying, well, if it's gonna be privatized, then   we'll compete with them.   You know, if it if it ends up that they can't do it, then maybe they won't they won't,   do that instead. Because I mean, they they don't really don't need to do it. I mean, they already shipped most of their products themselves anyways.  

[01:12:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They really do. So,   yeah, I don't see I don't see a need.   So but, you know,   monopoly.  

[01:12:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yep.  

[01:12:41] Jesse Fries:

Okay. What else you got?  

[01:12:43] Jamon Fries:

Well, something interesting in science.   Wait. Surprisingly, we had no studies this summer. That was Yep. Kind of odd.   But, so there's   the scientists have discovered a way   that they claim to be able to recharge   the aging human cells.  

[01:13:04] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:13:06] Jamon Fries:

So it's the the essentially, as   as your cells get older,   the mitochondria starts breaking down and becomes less efficient. So it's not creating as much energy for the cell, which causes the cell to age and which causes all the signs of old age and everything else like that. Mhmm.   And what they have found   is that   they can send   stem cells   in introduce stem cells to   aging cells.   Mhmm. And and these these stem cells, they have   hyperactive my mitochondria with a lot of energy going in on in them. Mhmm.   And that energy actually can be transferred   from those stem cells   into the aging cells.  



[01:13:55] Jesse Fries:

Oh, interesting.  

[01:13:57] Jamon Fries:

And the aging cells is what causes things like cancer and stuff like that. A lot of a lot of those diseases and illnesses. Right. So if this is   if this turns out to be something that works,   they they may get   be able to get rid of the signs of aging.   That's kinda cool. Or at least slow them down. Yeah. No. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. Yeah.   And   then   somewhat science related, but, in the technology field,   a company called BARDA   has says that it has proven   that space manufacturing   works.  

[01:14:41] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:14:43] Jamon Fries:

So it it's always been known that   some   that some drugs,   that that need to crystallize and stuff like that Uh-huh. They operate much better in in a lack of gravity because gravity itself impedes the crystallization   process.  

[01:15:00] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[01:15:01] Jamon Fries:

And so they've they've often done these tests up on the ISS and stuff like that where they've proven that they can manufacture those drugs   and that they are   sometimes sometimes the result is that they   have a large they have a much better,   result   from the they they they have more active ingredients than Mhmm. Than others do. Sometimes it's just that there's there's not as much waste when they're creating them.   Okay. And so what this company did   is they   designed a small capsule   that goes up with any with any flight,   and then it   does all of the processing and stuff like that that needs to be done. Mhmm.  

And then it comes back to Earth itself.   Okay.   Now the first time they tried to do it, they ran into some problems.   Mhmm.   Not with the capsule, not with the reentry, not with anything like that.   But   it was gonna be one of what one of what was gonna be the very first   instances   of   a non government run program   dropping   something out of space.   Mhmm.   And so they they had to so they they decided to use a,   a military base   that had a huge area where they test weapons and stuff like that Right.   To have this to have this thing come down. Mhmm.   But   because it was something that no one had ever heard of,   they kept scheduling other stuff and pushing it back. So they they'd get an f f they'd get an FAA license to to bring it into to bring it back into into Earth to get it out of the orbit.  

Then the military would say, you know, we've got something a little more pressing going on there. So we have to delay this, Mhmm. Which means that   their FAA license is no longer good because it was for that specific time frame. Right. So then they had to reapply. This went on for, like, two years before they finally got it to return. Oh, that sucks. That sucks.   Since then, they've they've, they've made some agreements in Australia to land their to land their stuff in Australia.   But the   the great thing about this, though, is that,   with the the one thing that they were saying is that   with all of these private companies now sending things up into space regularly  

[01:17:44] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:17:45] Jamon Fries:

The cost of sending things into space is going to decrease massively.   And so it will it will become a point where   sending someone into space to   create these drugs   or, they say it'll that fiber optic   fiber optic wires are better developed in space. There's a lot of stuff   that with just all sorts of stuff, metallurgy, all that other things where it's shown that having no gravity is beneficial   to the development of the product. Right.   And so the the what they're what they're saying is that with that, it's going to become more cost effective   to send someone the space to create these things,   to to build these things, than it is to actually have them do it on the ground. Well, that's cool. That's cool. No. It makes sense. Yeah.  

Yeah. And the you know, right now, the current the way things are currently,   everything going up is basically like satellite chains where they have a finite number of things that they're gonna be placing. Mhmm. So all the contracts currently are are very finite contracts. They they know once we have once we send this many things up, we're not gonna be able to send anymore. Right. Whereas with the manufacturing   aspect,   it will quite literally be an open ended contract that may never end.   Oh, yeah. So they think that that'll help drive the prices down even more because they could it'll be a reliable   thing that's always going.  



[01:19:13] Jesse Fries:

Cool.   Yeah. No. That is pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Mhmm.   Yep. Yep. Okay.   Funny story, Steven. What do you got?  

[01:19:23] Jamon Fries:

Well,   so mine is I I saw it on Gutfeld.   Uh-huh. And I I just I couldn't stop laughing at what they were saying.   So,   you know,   Trump's,   no tax on tips thing. Right.   The the no one seemed to think about   places like OnlyFans   or,   other websites where all of the money, all of their income is tips.  

[01:19:55] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[01:19:57] Jamon Fries:

And so to kind of get around it a little bit, the IRS has decided that they're going to be utilizing   one other hid little hidden rule in that   pornography   is exempted   from   those no tax on things. Pornography will always have to be taxed.   Which means that the IRS has now decided   that they will have to have their agents  

[01:20:23] Jesse Fries:

watching all the ads so that they can determine whether it's pornography or not. Well, if you have to, you have to. I'm just saying I know. I know. You know what this actually means? It actually means that the federal government may become   the greatest,   input   into OnlyFans as in money. It could be. Yeah. Because Yeah. They would have to check to make sure they'd have to get a subscription   for all these services.   Yeah. No.   Okeydokey. I guess we're subsidizing OnlyFans now. Woo hoo.  

[01:21:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. There you go. One of the panelists one of the panelists, he's like, you know,   it's a little disturbing that that they'll be that they'll be doing these subscriptions, that they'll have to pay for these subscriptions and all that other stuff. But   at the same time,   I can just imagine the auditors going, you know,   do I wanna go over to that guy's place and audit him or   do I wanna watch only fans?  

[01:21:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Exactly.   Exactly. It's it's like people grab strenuous audits that don't necessarily   need to happen may start disappearing a little bit. Yeah. Maybe so. Maybe so. You know? And then you you just imagine it in the office of the IRS. They're in the only fans area. They're they're let going. So who's got a foot fetish? I got stuff for the foot fetish.   I got people for the BDSM.   Absolutely.   Yeah.  

[01:21:55] Jamon Fries:

It'll be it'll be a negotiation   amongst everybody. They'll be, like, they'll be like, alright. So I've gotta look at all of these. Alright. This one is this. This one is that. I know you literally like that one. So I'll send that one over to you.   I want you to send me something a little bit better. Uh-huh.   That's funny. I could just I could just hear those conversations happening.  

[01:22:16] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. No kidding. No kidding.   Well, Jamin, I have found my spirit animal.   Oh, okay. I I never really believed in spirit animals until   this guy. So this this raccoon it's a raccoon, by the way. It you've probably seen the story. It's made its rounds. Quite seriously, this raccoon, he breaks into a Virginia   ABC,   which is a alcohol one of their state run alcohol stores.  

[01:22:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:22:45] Jesse Fries:

And   so he breaks a whole bunch of bottles,   drinks the liquor,   and then he passes out next to the toilet.  

[01:22:58] Jamon Fries:

Oh, god. This guy is my spirit animal. Your spirit animal. No doubt.   He would have been mine too. Right?  

[01:23:10] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So,   apparently, after a few hours of sleep and zero signs of inner injury, they released him back into the wild.   So, yeah, they transported him back to the shelter,   to sober up,   before the questioning.  

[01:23:31] Jamon Fries:

Oh, god. So yeah. We we know we know what I don't know what that raccoon's gonna be breaking into houses for from that one. Right? Exactly. He's going for the ABC stores. Look, I look. I ain't going for that trash can anymore. He wants the alcohol.  

[01:23:45] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Who doesn't? You know, that's.  

[01:23:48] Jamon Fries:

Oh, absolutely. No doubt.  

[01:23:50] Jesse Fries:

And with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us for episode 83 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries.   And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you on Monday.