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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:18) Introduction

(00:01:22) Elon Musk and Business News

(00:07:28) AI in Drug Testing

(00:12:10) Healthcare and Medicaid Cuts

(00:18:02) Tariffs and International Trade

(00:26:30) Government Shutdowns and Budget Issues

(00:30:00) Middle East Politics

(00:39:10) International Legal Issues

(00:42:04) GM and Autonomous Vehicles

(00:47:47) Trump's International Relations

(00:55:04) South African Refugee Controversy

(00:58:02) Corruption in USAID

(01:01:00) Democratic Party Politics

(01:09:19) ICE Facility Incident

(01:14:53) Science Breakthroughs

(01:22:00) Pete Rose and 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson

(01:30:00) British Heat Warning

[00:00:19] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday.   I believe it's, May 14, and we are live with episode number 37   of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries.   And   I don't care if the pope   is a Cubs fan or a White Sox fan. I I really don't. Yeah.  

[00:00:38] Jamon Fries:

How could you not care?  

[00:00:40] Jesse Fries:

Because I'm not from Chicago, you know.  

[00:00:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And I'm Jamin Friess. And,   yeah, I don't really care about that either, but,   I am starting to see some things   that are making a little bit of sense.  

[00:00:58] Jesse Fries:

We'll talk about it later in the show. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I guess we'll talk about that later in this. So they it's a bit vague there, but I guess that works. I guess that works.   Oh, what a day. Okay. What can we do today?   Where should we start off? Should we start Trump? Should we start foreign policy?  

[00:01:22] Jamon Fries:

Let's change things up a little bit and start with the,   start with the business world this time around. Okay. What you got?  

[00:01:31] Jesse Fries:

Well,  

[00:01:33] Jamon Fries:

the it looks like,   Elon Musk has made the news again. And Well, when doesn't he? Yeah. Well, yeah. And the Democrats   are   really questioning whether, you know, what he's doing is legitimate or not.   Uh-huh.   So his borrowing company   Right. I love seeing that because it you know, it could be taken two different ways.  

[00:01:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Last time I knew, that was   headquartered in the town just directly south of us, Pflugerville.   Yes. So Yep.  

[00:02:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They,   but they are   in line for a contract with Amtrak  

[00:02:13] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:02:14] Jamon Fries:

To build the   to build a,   Tunnel. A train tunnel that goes from DC to,   up around New York.  

[00:02:25] Jesse Fries:

Okay. The tunnel would be the whole distance?  

[00:02:27] Jamon Fries:

I would probably not that whole distance, but somewhere close to that. Okay.   And   because, I mean, a lot of that is,   you know, in that part of the world, there's not a whole lot of open territory.   Right. Right. You would have to tunnel quite a bit.   But so the complaints are well,   Elon Musk is in charge of a department   that makes decisions on funding for for all of the   for all of the,   regulatory   bodies. So he shouldn't be able to get it these kind of contracts.  

[00:03:03] Jesse Fries:

What now? How is he in charge of anything like that?  

[00:03:07] Jamon Fries:

He's not.   Yeah. Yeah. I swear to god. He he he's in charge of a department that   makes recommendations.  

[00:03:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And, technically, he's not even in charge of that. But Yeah. Nominally He's more an he's more an an adviser for it. Right. But I think, nominally, he is in charge. Yeah. But, yeah, it's  

[00:03:29] Jamon Fries:

I swear to god. But but he but you you know what this means?   What? This means that no one   in any   form   that has   an influence over   a company, that that has a company Right. Right.   Can   give advice   Right. Or be involved in anything politically   that may   involve the groups that regulate them.  

[00:04:00] Jesse Fries:

Well well,   That that that's interesting because I I   is it like   for so long, like, the   chairman of the boards and whatnot of, like, Pfizer and whatnot were in,   the government business of regulating  

[00:04:16] Jamon Fries:

drug companies? You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:04:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They can all.   I can understand hating it, but just coming see, this is the problem with politics. You know? It's like, oh, it's your guy. I don't trust your guy. I trust my guy, but I don't trust your guy. It's like, I don't trust all you.  

[00:04:35] Jamon Fries:

If if you're gonna do it, then you have to let it be done by everyone.   Yes. Completely. You can't bitch and complain because your opponents   are doing the same thing that you're doing.   And it's just business is normal. Just get over. Why it's like, come on. Not not only is it business as as normal, but in my mind, who better   to advise   on things than the people that are directly involved?  

[00:05:02] Jesse Fries:

I say a skeptic, Jamin. That's who I actually say.   I say a skeptic.   Because fuck y'all. Yeah. It it I don't trust any of them. Because they're gonna do what's best for their company and everything like that. Yeah. You know? That is true. It's like what? Now the freaking,   whatever the the the process of, making drugs legal and everything like that, the whole process, it's gonna rely on AI   instead of testing.  

[00:05:32] Jamon Fries:

Well, the no. The it's what it's going to do is it's going to allow   AI   testing as a source.   Yeah. It'd be stupid. But you still have to do regular testing too.   It   it's   not the only it's not gonna be the only source. It's going but it will take that into effect into account as well. Whereas right now, no matter what kind of AI tests you do,   it's not admissible at all as for any verification of anything.   Well, that's fine with me. I don't Yeah. I to stay here. I I don't I I yeah. I I don't have a problem with it. The the problem that I have is that some sometimes what they do is they use AI to administer the tests,   and even those are thrown out.  

They're still testing on on people and on animals.   Oh, yeah. I thought they were getting rid of the animal testing. I thought they were getting rid of that. They are getting rid of that. They are trying to get rid of that now. Yeah. Yeah. See?  

[00:06:36] Jesse Fries:

It's stupid. But, you know Just saying. But, yeah, so AI  

[00:06:40] Jamon Fries:

if AI played a part in it, if it, like, decided   which   Well, right. But they're also but since they're also getting rid of the animal testing, that means they're gonna be leaning heavily on the AI. Oh, yeah. They'll they'll have to because they can't they can't there's no way that that anyone would allow them to just start off fresh on humans.  

[00:07:00] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. So well, apparently, we are now.   Yeah. Because   in a computer running simulations, you know, no matter   how good it is, it's not   Right. It's not a biological thing. You know? So Right. Yeah. No. No. Absolutely.  

[00:07:17] Jamon Fries:

I I the the   you know, I've I've never liked the drug companies.  

[00:07:23] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[00:07:25] Jesse Fries:

But,  

[00:07:28] Jamon Fries:

you know,   to me   I really hate to say it,   but to me, I think that   if we went back to   the old medicine doctor ways or the   ancient Chinese medicine   and stuff like that Uh-huh.   It was so much better than what we currently have   in many ways. In some ways. Not not Yeah. Yeah. In in not not in everything, but in many ways. Like, you know Completely. Yep.   The drugs didn't have   side effects  

[00:08:04] Jesse Fries:

per se. Well, right. Right. Nothing too detrimental or anything like that. Yeah. No. It it's plus I just don't trust them because they they they've been loading us full of those all this crap, just like the insurance companies and crap like that. I'm so sick of our system right now.   Not necessarily for, like, the outcome because the outcome is very good. We have a great system for the outcome. Right. It's the process to get to that outcome that is stupid.   It it it's like Trump, thankfully. He signed this executive order to reduce   prescription meds. Some of them. Yeah. You know? It's like   because we we keep getting fed this lie from everybody that's saying, oh, we're paying   with these high costs. We're paying for this new medicine. No. We're paying for the ads. That's all we're paying for. Yeah. It's our government that actually is doing these things. Right? Yeah. All all of the medication is funded by government research.  

Exactly. So it's funded by government research, and then we have to pay a extra fee even though our tax money is actually going for  

[00:09:03] Jamon Fries:

that? No. Yeah. No. We're already paying for the research, so why the hell do we have to pay extra to pay for more to pay for that research that was already paid for by us? Exactly. Exactly. You know, it's like It makes no sense.  

[00:09:16] Jesse Fries:

It it it makes no sense. And   all all these conservatives and everything like that, they always go, oh, pro business. You know? It it's like, oh, they're spending all this money. No. It's a lie. 100% lie. The government's spending way too much. We get no benefit from that on our Yeah. Pocketbook   even though only they get the benefit from our pocketbook as in the cash from our pocketbook.   Yeah. So yeah. No. Screw them. Screw them all. It's Well, you know, it it's like,  

[00:09:42] Jamon Fries:

the   did did you hear Trump what Trump said about when he was signing off on the on it about, his friend that went over to The UK, I think? Uh-huh.   So he's got this friend, multibillionaire,   of course Right. That is extremely overweight.   Mhmm.   And he went over to to The UK, and he paid $88   for the fat drug. Yep. Yep.   So he called up president Trump, and he's like, why is it that I only have to pay $88   here, but I pay $1,300   in New York for the same drug?  

[00:10:22] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Because, technically, it's that's a GPL one drug. Yes. And GPL one is you cannot copyright it. No. It is be because it is a biological thing.   So you can't it's not even copyrightable. So it's it it it's just easy to make. All we're doing Oh, yeah.   It's like these Ozempic and whatnot, wagovia, and all these things. They they they spend so much money on going, well, it's not the right dose. You can't trust these people that compound this. You can't do this. You can't do this. You know? You can say go Yeah. Yeah. You can, dude. I'm just saying, if you stick yourself too many times, yeah, that's your fault.   Yep. You know yeah. No. It's pure Yeah. Pure pure garbage.  

Yeah.   Mhmm.   Not that you know that GPS ones anyways, but  

[00:11:07] Jamon Fries:

That that kind of gets into well, yeah. No. Me either. I would never take one. I would never use it. Too many it has too many side effects, too many problems. Yep. Yep.   That and I also kind of agree with mom's take on medication.   It hasn't been around for at least twenty years. I don't want it.  

[00:11:24] Jesse Fries:

Well, chief PL ones actually have been around for about twenty years. They've been around for, like, thirty years or so. But   They haven't been used like this, though. Well, not in mass market and everything like that. You you you know, it's like, for me, it's   there's so many side effects that we already   know. Yeah. And then   I I'm still, like,   hesitant about all these diet drugs since Fen Phen. You know? Oh, yes. Yeah. No kidding.   So it's like   yeah. Yeah. So I I just go yeah. How about you just, try what you need to try and just stay healthy? You know? It's Yep. Yep.  

[00:12:03] Jamon Fries:

But, anyways, that that actually   I okay. I got into this a little bit earlier than I thought we would, but, into my intro part Uh-huh. The thing that I that I'm noticing.   And that is is that   everything that the Democrats are complaining about. Uh-huh.   Trump's cutting Medicaid. He's cutting food stamps. He's cutting all this other stuff. Uh-huh.   Well,   if we reduce how much the medicines cost   Uh-huh.   How much less does Medicaid have to pay?   Exactly. Before we can cut Medicaid?   Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it It's not it's not a cut in in the benefits to us. It's a cut in the expenses of Medicaid.  

[00:12:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see that. I don't know exactly how that works out. I I know it looks like on the SNAP program,   for food stamps and everything like that. It's   he's cutting it for   able-bodied single people is basically what he's cutting it for. He's not cutting it for families or anything like that. He's not cutting it for people with children or anything like that. It's Yeah. Single able-bodied   people. That's it.  

[00:13:15] Jamon Fries:

Or or There is there is couple There is. That is, able-bodied. There is one other cut that I think they need to make   Uh-huh. To SNAP,   and that is that they need   to go through the list of approved foods and make some changes to that. Yeah. They need to take candy and pop off of the approved foods. No. Yeah. Isn't, RFK trying to do something with it? Yeah. Yeah. He is. Yeah. They they are trying to do that. And I'm very hopeful that they're successful   because it just makes absolutely no sense to go and buy your Halloween candy with Snap.  

[00:13:48] Jesse Fries:

No. No. If you need a treat,   it should be enough just to,   pay for it out of pocket because it's a treat. You know, sweets are treats. You know? It's Yep.  

[00:13:59] Jamon Fries:

Well, for some people for some people, though, I mean, sweets are, like, 90% of their diet.  

[00:14:04] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That that that should be. You know?   Go buy that flour and make some bread. You know? It's a we're pancakes or crepes or whatever. They're all easy to make, and there you go. And flour's cheap. Just saying.  

[00:14:17] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Well, you know, and it's like, for some people,   SNAP benefits   really   aren't that great for them.   Right. They're not very helpful.   Mhmm. Like myself, I personally am on food stamps. Okay.   I get $23   a month for food stamp of food stamps.  

[00:14:39] Jesse Fries:

23 whole dollars? Yeah. Yee doggy.  

[00:14:42] Jamon Fries:

When I when I was in Colorado, I was getting over a hundred at the same with the same income level, moved to Kansas, and I'm down to 23.  

[00:14:50] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So Kansas doesn't care about you is what you're telling me. Exactly. Yes. Kansas  

[00:14:56] Jamon Fries:

Kansas is not a we are going to give you shit tons of money state.  

[00:15:00] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Definitely not. It's a more of a conservative state. So it's a Absolutely. Colorado is, very left leaning. So Yes. Yes. It is.  

[00:15:09] Jamon Fries:

But, you know,   that $23,   it makes   very almost no difference to me. I mean,   in fact, the only thing that having that $23   does   is it allows me to   order out one more day.  

[00:15:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Because $23   it's not It it's like nothing.   It is literally nothing. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. That that that's, like, especially when you get food delivered, that's like   that's one meal for McDonald's. Yeah. You know what? It's   it's really put down. So  

[00:15:50] Jamon Fries:

so with so with the,   you know, with with food stamps,   those tiny small amounts,   you know, for people that are getting, like, fifteen, twenty dollars from food stamps Uh-huh.   I would have absolutely no problem with cutting   those people off completely.   Mhmm.  

[00:16:09] Jesse Fries:

But then some people could, like, thousands.   Yo. Yeah. Yeah.   It's like   thousands. It's like even myself just out of my own pocket because, yeah, I pay out of my pocket for things. It's   it's   it's not that much. You know? It it's No.   And if I was on food stamps, that means I would have to eat cheaper. So   yeah. Yeah. I don't understand it. You know? And most of my money actually goes to alcohol. So, you know  

[00:16:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yep.   Yep. But but yeah. So I mean so   there are a lot of places that cuts   can very easily happen   that will not affect the people that actually need the program. Oh, yeah. Completely.   Yep. Do do you know though the only reason that I actually keep signing up for food stamps   Uh-huh.   Is because   Amazon and   now Walmart   give me 50% off of a year subscription if I if I have a DBT card.   Well, that's perfect then. That that's worth money right there. Yeah. So instead of spending a hundred dollars on a on a Walmart,   subscription for a year for for free delivery  

[00:17:30] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:17:31] Jamon Fries:

I only spend $50.  

[00:17:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's not bad at all. That is not bad at all. Well So that's actually why I take food stamps is because there's benefits  

[00:17:43] Jamon Fries:

outside of the actual food money. I don't need the food  

[00:17:46] Jesse Fries:

money. Right. Right. Right. No. It makes  

[00:17:49] Jesse Fries:

makes perfect sense, actually. Yeah. So Yeah.   Nice. Nice.  

[00:17:54] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. This this also goes in with tariffs as well, though. Uh-huh.   Because all of these all of these things, you know, food and stuff like that, the price of food is going to drop   Uh-huh. As deals are made across the country across the world. Right. Right.   I mean, look at what happened with China. I mean, just recently, the agreement that may that they made is insane.  

[00:18:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:18:26] Jamon Fries:

China's now only charging us the 10% tariff on everything we send to them?  

[00:18:31] Jesse Fries:

That's pretty I mean, damn. Yeah. And they're,   stopping some of the prohibitions.   That's what we send them so we can send them more stuff.   Meanwhile, we're still charging tariffs. You know? It's like, what are those  

[00:18:45] Jamon Fries:

We're at 35%   tariffs on them now,   which is I think I think for those,  

[00:18:51] Jesse Fries:

you know, those quick shipments and everything like that, the like, Timu and everything like that, I think that's at 53%   right now. It it dropped,   but it's still hot. But then that that stuff is junk. So it's like Yeah. 53%   on something that costs 50¢ is   I'm like, yeah.   It's nothing.   It's maybe a penny more.   Maybe 25¢. You know? I   I really, that's about it. You know? It's like, I think we could bite that. You know? So and it's junk. Yeah. T Mobile and stuff like that is is Chinese junk. It really is. Yes. They no. Don't get me wrong. China China can really do some great stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's their it's their schlock that they're sending us with Tmoo and everything like that. Apple gets the good stuff from China. The the stuff on Tmoo is like the  

[00:19:39] Jamon Fries:

I wonder what would happen if we tried this.   Oh, shit. That didn't work. Let's sell it on Tmoo.  

[00:19:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Exactly. And some of the stuff, you know, it's, like, on TikTok. They're selling whole bunch bunches of schlock.   But, you know, you go, well, that's kind of a cool design. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know? Why didn't somebody else think about this before? You know? But, you know? It'd probably break on you in two seconds. But   Well, you know, I mean, that's you get what you pay for quite literally. So Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It it's like with these tariffs, you know, it's like, right now there's a court in New York. It's the court that monitors   international trade and everything like that for The United States.  

They're looking at there's arguments right now whether or not Trump can charge these tariffs.   So   it's gonna be, I think, tomorrow   or maybe today, they're gonna have arguments on it.   Or they did already, and then it's another one in later this month. But, yeah, they're If not Trump, who then? The Well, technically, tariffs fall under Congress. Yes. But Trump Okay. Announced an emergency.   And because of that emergency action,   he was able to he he thinks he's able to do these tariffs.   But, technically,   the tariffs are a congressional thing. So   And then, yeah, then Trump would sign whatever. But Congress doesn't do shit anymore. So, you know, it's like Oh, yeah. No. They don't.  

It's like this bill. Jesus Christ. This bill, this tax bill or whatever that's going through the committee and everything like that. Looks like it passed the committee now. It Okay.   It is ridiculous. There's, like,   very little savings.   So what's the point?   There was this one where it was   where's the story here I have?   It was, like, something like they were gonna save 300,000,000,000   through   let me find the story so I can get it right.   I know it's here somewhere, Joe.   Where did you know? I I just I lost it. But it was like it was like 303   hundred billion or something like that. Oh, but over ten years.  

So it's like nothing.   Yeah.   Oh, so you're saving this little bit for   absolutely nothing. You know? It it just doesn't make sense to me. You know? It's No. Yeah.  

[00:22:13] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, and that's that's the that's one thing that I've never really understood about government too is,   you know, they keep saying,   we're gonna save you all this money. We're gonna save you this much money. We're gonna save you this much money. Yep. Oh, this was something that leave out Yeah. But then they leave out the   over fifty years   or over Right. Twenty years or   I mean,   yes. Okay. So   300,000,000,000   is a lot of money.  

[00:22:44] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:22:45] Jamon Fries:

But if it's over   ten or twenty years, it's now only   30,000,000,000   or   15,000,000,000   a year.  

[00:22:55] Jesse Fries:

Right. Which is, like, not much of anything.  

[00:22:58] Jamon Fries:

No. Exactly. In a government   budget, that's nothing. Yeah. It's chicken feet. Like chip that that's like   shit. I forgot the word for it now.  

[00:23:09] Jesse Fries:

Chunk change. Chunk change. It's chunk change. It really is. You know, it's like,   I just don't understand,   like,   keeping the deficit that we have. You know? They because this isn't gonna change anything on the deficit. You know? If you need to do this stuff, do one of two things. Raise the taxes   or cut the programs.   Yeah.   Balance this freaking budget, people. Plain and simple. That I  

[00:23:35] Jamon Fries:

I just don't understand it. You know, why can't we live within our means? You know? It's Yeah. Just doesn't make sense. I I will I will never understand why the federal government doesn't have to run the same same way as the state governments do. Every Because they can print money. Has to end the year   with a with   a good budget. They have to end the year   at at a   they cannot end it as a net negative. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Whereas the federal government   can have as much net negative as they want, it appears.  

[00:24:08] Jesse Fries:

And there's technically debt ceilings, but all they have to do is do a vote and and raise the debt ceiling. Which they do because nobody wants to shut down the government for long. You know? The Republicans are willing to shut down the government for, like, a month.   Yeah.   But they won't go beyond that. Democrats won't even shut it down.  

[00:24:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Then they go, we're not doing that. You know? Like, you know, some something else that frustrates me about the whole shutting the government down thing   Mhmm. Is that   a government shutdown actually affects nothing   Pretty much. Yeah. Except people's access to state parks.  

[00:24:47] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Well, federal parks, but, yeah, national parks. Yeah. Yeah. Not state. But Right. Right. You're you're right. Sorry.   Yeah. But So yeah. No. That's it. Because  

[00:24:57] Jamon Fries:

it it doesn't affect the money going out because those are all automatic   procedures that   are just automatically sent out. And they're they're they're not  

[00:25:08] Jesse Fries:

they can't be stopped   legally. You you you know, it's a except maybe to contractors. I don't know about that. But, like, to, like, Social Security, that's going out no matter what. Oh, yeah. You you know,   things like that is just gonna   go on right away. We're always we're always made we're always told to be scared because this government shutdown is gonna stop our Social Security check. Yeah. Which is just can't. Can't. It can't. Well, legally, it just cannot. Because, technically, that money isn't part of the federal government's money even though they use it as a slush fund. But, you know, it's Yep.  

[00:25:42] Jamon Fries:

The other the other reason that no one's affected by it   is because, yes, the employees   don't work for a month.   They still get paid, though. But they still get paid. Yep. Nope. They still get paid. They still get paid for that entire month.   Yep.   So   So a government shutdown affects no one.  

[00:26:04] Jesse Fries:

It really doesn't. It really doesn't.   So why are we so scared of a government shutdown? I don't know. Because the military will still be there. That has to be, you know, the the ports The police will still be working.   The,  

[00:26:19] Jamon Fries:

border control still has to work, you know, everything like that. So, yeah, I don't see Essential services will remain always maintain remain in effect. Yep. Remain going on. They don't stop.   Mhmm. So why not shut the government down?  

[00:26:35] Jesse Fries:

If needed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   That's what I'm saying too. You know, it's   just   get your house in order. I swear to God, this Congress can't do   shit. Yeah. And it's both parties, and both parties don't wanna do anything  

[00:26:51] Jamon Fries:

Right.  

[00:26:52] Jesse Fries:

When they're in power. You know, we could've solved the immigrant issue long time ago, but Oh, yeah. It wasn't gonna happen.   And so Biden decides just let everybody in.   And now Trump is closing the border completely, you know, and trying to kick everybody out.   It's like, which one do you want? It's like, this is stupid. Let the Congress has   left all decisions to the executive and the judicial.   Yeah.   They completely have. They just don't make decisions anymore. You know? Nobody's ballsy in everything.  

[00:27:22] Jamon Fries:

The only thing they do anymore is the budget.  

[00:27:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Barely. Barely.  

[00:27:27] Jamon Fries:

And they don't really even do that because they just pass continuing resolutions.  

[00:27:32] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   It's all stupid.  

[00:27:35] Jamon Fries:

So yeah. I mean, it's   the the the congress's role in the government is to make the laws.  

[00:27:44] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. And if they're not willing to or able to,   then   and somehow   the courts and Congress have allowed the executive to   not enforce some laws and then be able to dictate,   what certain laws mean and everything like that. So, basically, write their own   laws even though it's just technically,   regulations,   which have the same   enforcement as laws. So you have all this shit that the Congress has allowed to happen,  

[00:28:17] Jamon Fries:

and they've allowed it to happen. Knocking on my door.  

[00:28:20] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Do you need to check it out?   Yeah. It will not be going away.  

[00:28:25] Jamon Fries:

No worries.  

[00:28:26] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   And this is a live podcast, so   you get the excitement   of Jamin going to check the door.   It is truly exciting.   I just saw a crow fly by.   And it looks like we are back.   Woo hoo.  

[00:28:52] Jamon Fries:

You be polite once.   Uh-huh. And   as   damn people   just never stop coming.   Who?   Oh, somebody from,   some church organization.   Oh, Jesus. Church that's going around.   I talked with him for, like, five minutes once.   Bad mistake, dude. I know. I know.   And   this is now the third time he's come over to knock on the door. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. If if you engage, Jamin.  

[00:29:31] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:29:33] Jamon Fries:

Well, normally, I can engage a little bit. Right. Right. Right. Right. I tell them my own my own beliefs. I tell them, you know, that dad's a pastor.  

[00:29:41] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. Right.  

[00:29:44] Jamon Fries:

And they just go away.   But this guy, no.  

[00:29:49] Jesse Fries:

He's not going away.  

[00:29:54] Jesse Fries:

No. That is funny.  

[00:29:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:30:01] Jamon Fries:

But, anyways, so what were we talking about earlier?  

[00:30:04] Jesse Fries:

I'm not really sure. It doesn't really matter.  

[00:30:07] Jamon Fries:

We're kinda getting to the end of it anyways. Exactly. Exactly.  

[00:30:11] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Trump,   he he's doesn't really care about Netanyahu anymore. He   he it seems like,   so that seems like it's interesting situation over there. Israel said we're not gonna stop until we completely get rid of Hamas.   Yep. And have complete control over Gaza, so fuck it. Yeah. And they they basically said, you know,  

[00:30:32] Jamon Fries:

that if I'm if I'm understanding correctly, they've basically said,   you know, if if Hamas says where it calls for a ceasefire to release some hostages,   we'll say, alright. We'll shoot we'll stop shooting for the next twenty minutes while we get the hostages, and then we're shoot starting to shoot again. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:30:51] Jesse Fries:

This is what they should've done all along in my book.   Now don't don't get me wrong. I'm not for one side or the other. It's just when it's war, it's war. Plain and simple.  

[00:31:02] Jamon Fries:

That's how I feel about everything. When when you're at war, you have to fight to win.   Yeah. Yeah. You have to fight for the total destruction of your enemy.  

[00:31:10] Jesse Fries:

That's what I'm thinking.   Yeah. And Israel has had to deal with a lot of this shit for so long. It's like, yeah, I just Yeah. Yeah. I don't care. But, yeah, Trump, he just flew to Saudi Arabia,   then he got that stupid plane   from Qatar.   My friend sent me a a meme, and on the side of the plane, it said, Qatar's a bitch.  

[00:31:36] Jamon Fries:

Nice.  

[00:31:37] Jesse Fries:

Nice. Apparently, we're gonna have to spend a billion dollars to retrofit it, though. So I'm not sure how much of it. I mean, it's that that's very standard and normal. The No. I know. Thing. It's like Yeah. Okay. And then and then Trump's not gonna pass it on to the next president, he says. He's he said he's just gonna   give it to his library?   Yeah. It's gonna get retired to his library. No. No. I doubt it's gonna be retired. He he's just gonna be called. Yeah. Yeah. He's gonna get on the board of the library.  

[00:32:03] Jamon Fries:

That's that's gonna be the new Trump one.  

[00:32:05] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. You know, it's just   I just don't get it.   It's it's okay.   But then Well, you know Schumer and whatnot are, like, taking it too far as well there. I have two different opinions on it. Uh-huh.  

[00:32:20] Jamon Fries:

One yay, one nay. And I really can't   really can't differentiate between them and then pick one.  

[00:32:29] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:32:30] Jamon Fries:

So the yay   is   Air Force One is a very old plane.  

[00:32:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:32:41] Jamon Fries:

We have had a contract with Boeing   for the last ten years   to build a new Air Force one, but Boeing has not been able to do it. Right. Right.   Yep. So we do need a new plane.  

[00:32:57] Jesse Fries:

Right. Yeah. Didn't Trump sign that one?  

[00:33:00] Jamon Fries:

I thought Trump got that one going. Yeah. So not quite He did. But yeah. Yeah. It was if Trump initiated it, they still haven't got it built.  

[00:33:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No surprise. It's Boeing.   Yes. I know.  

[00:33:13] Jamon Fries:

And, yeah, we still trust them to build military planes for us. Well and somehow Trump got Saudi Arabia to order $300,000,000,000  

[00:33:22] Jesse Fries:

worth of planes from them.   Yeah.   Don't know how that happened.  

[00:33:28] Jamon Fries:

No idea. No idea. But,   on the other side, though,   this is a jet from a foreign nation.  

[00:33:37] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:33:41] Jesse Fries:

And there are problems that come along with accepting it. No. Completely. Yeah. No. I I I I'm right there with you. Yeah. So we need the plane, but at the same time, it doesn't quite feel right to accept the plane. But we don't need the plane either. That's the thing. It's like, yes, the one is old.   Okay. It's old. It doesn't mean   okay. It's old. But how old is it really? Because I'm sure those engines aren't as old as the plate. I'm sure the wings have been taken off a few times because we have more than one  

[00:34:14] Jamon Fries:

air force. No. No. I I I know I know all that. But   my thoughts on the matter are   that   right now,   unless they do a massive overhaul   on every on all of the internal equipment  

[00:34:30] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:34:32] Jamon Fries:

The technical capabilities   of defense that exist now are a lot better  

[00:34:38] Jesse Fries:

than what were than what were existed when the when the plane was first built. No. I understand. Don't get me wrong. I understand. I'm just I'm just saying it's   we're gonna have to spend a billion dollars on this plane to get it going. Right? Yeah.   How long does it take   to spend   a billion   dollars?   Years upon years.   It will take   yes. Because they will have to gut it and run everything.   This is good to it's  

[00:35:11] Jamon Fries:

A lot of people do anything else. It'll take a lot of people are saying it'll take about a year to two years for them to completely refit it. Yeah. And then he'll be out of the office. I I see Two years later. So he'll Yeah. He'll it'll it'll operate as Air Force one for two years, and then it'll become No. It won't even be two years. It won't even be two years, I bet. And that's if everything goes well. That's if everything goes well. That's if everything goes perfect.   That that that's if they don't find bugs and this and that that everybody's throwing in there. You know, it's Or No. So I I've heard some people say that, you know, we can't accept it because there might be structural   flaws.  



[00:35:47] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But it's gonna be gone over with a fine. They're good. It's gonna be gone over with a fine tooth comb. Yeah. That's not   I don't know. I I find it a stupid thing, and, of course, everybody is going nuts about it. But I  

[00:36:01] Jamon Fries:

I I just I just don't under you know, I just don't understand   why   we can't just   build one ourselves. I mean,   you know, it it's   I I understand Boeing has their problems.  

[00:36:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But this is a Boeing plane.  

[00:36:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's it's a Boeing seven forty seven. It's like  

[00:36:28] Jesse Fries:

No.   It it's stupid. It's just completely stupid. I just   it makes no sense. It makes no sense. It really doesn't. You know? It's like, okay. Thank you for the gift. Put in mothballs. Yeah. That's like Yeah. We can spend a billion dollars on a brand new plane the same size. Let's do that. Yeah. It's Yeah.   Crack their heads over at Boeing. Let's let's  

[00:36:50] Jamon Fries:

let's build you know, or   just don't go with Boeing anymore. They've proven time and time again No. That their contracts can't be fulfilled.  

[00:37:01] Jesse Fries:

I understand that. But when it comes to Air Force One, it has to be Boeing. Because it's either Boeing   or Airbus,   and you have to go with an American company. I'm just saying,   it it it's   it's that. You have to for American those two?   But there's a Chinese one as well, that's up and coming. Can't go with that one. No.   But, yeah, it's basically those two, especially when it comes to large commercial jets.   Like Lockheed Martin, whatnot, they do fighters and everything like that.   Yeah. But when it comes to, like, commercial jets that they've luxury ones, yeah, it's all Boeing or Airbus. That's about it. And the Chinese, I can't remember that. There used to be another one, if I remember correctly, here in The US.  

[00:37:45] Jamon Fries:

But if I remember correctly,  

[00:37:47] Jesse Fries:

Boeing took it over? Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember what that was. But, yeah, it it it's it is solely Airbus and Boeing now. Okay. And the Chinese company. So Yeah.  

[00:37:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Can't trust the foreign power to build it, so you gotta go with the with The US. Go with Boeing. Yeah.   Shit.  

[00:38:08] Jesse Fries:

See? There you go.  

[00:38:10] Jamon Fries:

So that's why it has to I don't know what to do then.   Right. Exactly. It it it's a David, you do that if you don't. Think thinking about it. Even if even if Trump did take this plane.   He did. He did. It's a visa. Who is who is it that has to refit it?   Americans. Yeah.   Boeing.   Yeah.  

[00:38:30] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[00:38:31] Jamon Fries:

So it'll be about ten years before it's done. Uh-huh. See?  

[00:38:36] Jesse Fries:

There's no difference. I don't see   the whole thing is stupid. It's like yeah. It really is. Yeah.   Thank you for the gift. Put it in mothballs. That's what I say. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, who cares? Yeah. It's   yeah.   No.   I find it stupid.  

[00:38:53] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.  

[00:38:55] Jesse Fries:

Listen here. Oh, speaking,   of Israel and whatnot, since we talked about that, there's this,   so, you know, the ICC put out an arrest warrant   on,   Netanyahu?   I had heard about that. Yeah. Yeah. They put it in for his genocide against the Palestinians and whatnot.   Well,   so the prosecutor   in charge of that, the guy that did the arrest warrant and everything like that,   he was just accused of sexual assault.   And not only that,   he actually   told,   let's see. He he asked the woman who accused him of sexual assault to drop the charges   because if she didn't do that,   he could not issue the arrest warrant for, Netanyahu.  

So in the sake of justice   for the Palestinians,   she could not get justice from him.   Right?  

[00:39:59] Jamon Fries:

Oh, that is so messed up. Completely messed up.  

[00:40:04] Jesse Fries:

Drop out. It's almost Have somebody else come.  

[00:40:07] Jamon Fries:

It's almost like saying,   you know, the guy from New York where we have to drop all corruption   charges on him because he's helpful to our immigration   stance.  

[00:40:19] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   This is the prosecutor trying to yeah. No. No. You you you drop out,   leave   public office completely. Yeah.   Maybe go to jail because you should be there.  

[00:40:33] Jamon Fries:

And then If the allegations are true, absolutely.  

[00:40:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. But, apparently, for the justice of the Palestinians, I need to rape you is what he's saying. So   Just say it.   Yeah.   I thought that was so messed up.  

[00:40:50] Jamon Fries:

Oh, absolutely.  

[00:40:52] Jesse Fries:

There's not much worse than that. There really isn't. There really isn't. That's trying to use your power and everything like that to Yeah.   Completely jacked up.  

[00:41:03] Jamon Fries:

Wow. Yeah.   Let's see.   Going back to business a little bit. Yeah.   GM   has a new high person up in command. Oh, okay.   It it's made me   it it makes me think that   GM is planning on a a move towards autonomous vehicles as  

[00:41:33] Jesse Fries:

well? Well, they always were. They always were,   because there was the what was the name of the   Cruz   out in San Francisco. Yeah. That was   that was owned by GM.  

[00:41:47] Jamon Fries:

Right.  

[00:41:47] Jesse Fries:

So, yeah, they've always been in the autonomous vehicle, and then they have Super Cruise as well. I think they're going quite a bit further with it, though. Uh-huh.  

[00:41:56] Jamon Fries:

Because the guy that they've brought in is the old head of Aurora,   which you probably don't know about. Is that Google? Was that Google? No. No. Aurora was its own start up,   car manufacturer   that was that was working purely on autonomous vehicles.  

[00:42:14] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:42:15] Jamon Fries:

They also just a month before he left there and came up went over to and signed the contract with GM,   they also set up a,   commercial trucking   autonomous vehicles that operate within Texas.  

[00:42:32] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:42:33] Jamon Fries:

So everything that he's ever worked on in the auto industry is autonomous vehicles.   Okay. The position that he's moving into in GM   was specifically   designed for him.   It didn't exist before. They created this position for him.   And it's a position   that touches   every aspect of GM.   Oh, Jesus. Gas manufactured vehicles Right. Electric vehicles,   software,   hardware,   even down to customer service.   It all goes it all goes through him, basically, now.  

[00:43:13] Jesse Fries:

How is that even possible? Seriously,   the logistics  

[00:43:16] Jamon Fries:

of sending everything through this one Well, Joe, the only the only person that he reports to is the CEO.   Well   That's how high up on the chain he is. So, essentially, he But but does everybody going to the CEO.  

[00:43:30] Jesse Fries:

But does everybody else report to him?  

[00:43:34] Jamon Fries:

He's just a VP.   He's not even a VP.  

[00:43:39] Jesse Fries:

No. It says VP in the article. I'm I'm reading it now. Oh, does it? Okay. Yeah. It said VP.  

[00:43:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   I I don't know.   It sounds like   he's now   the person that everyone comes to, and then he's the direct line to the CEO.   Because every aspect from start to finish of the GM auto process   goes is touched by his department now. Right. Right.   Well, I'm gonna talk to Carol just so he can get the inside scoop. I it's Yeah. Because I it it sounds weird, but it in my head, it's like, okay. So GM has decided to go full bar on autonomy.  

[00:44:22] Jesse Fries:

On autonomous vehicles that almost They've been trying to do that because, like, Super Cruise and everything like that where it just drives you around the major roads and everything like that. Yep.   It's a nice product. I like it. It's fun to drive. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or not drive that as the case may be. Yeah.   But  

[00:44:37] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I mean, there   there's and talking about autonomous vehicles,   everybody says that it has to be one way or the other. Uh-huh. You either have   all of the cameras in the vehicle doing   doing their own thing   for every single vehicle, or you have   a system   where it's like trains, where it connects into a main hub   and that controls the vehicles.  

[00:45:03] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:45:06] Jamon Fries:

I say, why not do a combination of both?  

[00:45:11] Jesse Fries:

I swear to God. He's   okay.   This is   I just don't it just doesn't make sense.  

[00:45:18] Jamon Fries:

No. It doesn't. It doesn't make a lot of  

[00:45:22] Jesse Fries:

sense. I it just doesn't make sense. It is I swear to God, these big companies,   this happens all the time. They have this one idea, so they hire this guy. Then they go, oh, different idea. This guy over here. And and they pick and choose a Yeah. I I know I don't know what's, like, out there in the world, so I can't say anything. But I know GM's been doing this, like, for years. They go, oh, I want that from that company over there and then this one. And but this seems to be, like,   it's gonna, like, cross each other.   Yeah. Especially with this guy that's in charge of freaking everything, but isn't in charge of everything.  

Yeah. It just doesn't mix.  

[00:45:58] Jamon Fries:

Okay. He touches it, but he's not in charge of it. So I don't know I don't know just what his role is gonna be in everything.  

[00:46:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It cover the entire life cycle of GM portfolios.  

[00:46:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Wow. Okay.   Yeah. I mean, it it's almost getting,   it it almost seems to be as   complex  

[00:46:28] Jesse Fries:

as government bureaucracy now. No. Yeah. It is. It is. And this will just lead to more layoffs. So I bet some of those execs that they just, hired,   off of Apple,   will probably get laid off because he'll bring his own people.   Yep.   I swear to god corporate   structures are just  

[00:46:48] Jamon Fries:

That's what they really are. Yeah.  

[00:46:52] Jesse Fries:

You probably go, oh, let me go have a drink with Bara. Comes up with crazy ideas, and now she has to try to fit them in. That's what I say. You know? You know? You know? That that's how it works. You know this. Right? You know? Oh, yeah. They have a drink over,   these uppity ups, that went to Harvard or whatnot. You know? They all meet together. They have their discussions over   a scotch or something like that. And then Yep. Next thing you know, the company's paying for it.  

[00:47:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So I I have no idea where that's gonna go eventually,   but,   I I definitely thought you at least would have some interest in it.   Yeah. No. Completely. Considering that your wife works for them. Yeah. Yeah. I  

[00:47:34] Jesse Fries:

I just don't see   there's so many things when it comes to   corporations that you just shake your head at going. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. You know? It's like, what are you thinking about?   Let's see.   I guess back to Trump and international politics, real quick.   He he's making peace everywhere, it seems like.   He got the Yeah.   Indians and the Pakistanis   to actually   have a ceasefire even though it there were some issues right at first, but it seems to be holding for now. Mhmm.   Then he's completely   took taken off all of the,   sanctions on Syria.  

Yeah.   So,   yeah, don't   how about we just get rid of sanctions?   And maybe, you know, we can just   have a good deal with that. You know? I I don't know. I'm so   what about Cuba?   Why do we still have sanctions on Cuba?   Yeah. That makes absolutely no sense. Get rid of that. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't care about the Cubans down in Florida. They make good food. Don't get me wrong. But   it's been too long. I'm sorry. Get over it. Yeah.  

[00:48:49] Jamon Fries:

Just get over it. 100% get over it. I mean, the the the whole thing with Cuba, it it goes all the way back to JFK days   with the Cuban Missile Crisis. I mean, are you are you still so hung up on the Bay Of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis   that we can't   let them do what they need to do?  

[00:49:10] Jesse Fries:

Mostly what it is is that the Cubans, especially in Florida, they have a stranglehold on the politics there. Yeah. So, basically, if you do anything against the Cubans, the the it's a huge population, so you're kinda screwed if you,   and these are see, the thing is that the history of Cuba is that, basically, all the most of the Cubans that fled after Castro,   they were   we had a puppet   in Yeah. The Cuban government, and Castro is more of a nationalist,   and nationalists could only get help during that time,   from the Soviets.  

Yeah. He may have been communist as well, but I know, like, it's like Ho Chi Minh. He wasn't a communist, but Oh, yeah. We wouldn't help him. So we had to go to somebody who was, and so he became a communist because of that. Yep.  

[00:49:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So they told me the the basically, it was the   we're not gonna help you, but we're not gonna let anyone and we're not gonna let anyone else help you. So the only person you can talk to is the communists, and the only way they're gonna help you is if you become communist.   So  

[00:50:11] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like in Cuba.   That was our sugar plantation.   Oh, yeah. Literally, that was our sugar plantation.   It was, like, it was American companies.   The government was, like, government American installed sort of situation. Yeah. You know? So it's like,   you just get over it, people. We lost it. It's its own country. Just just let it be. You know? It's not   I I Yeah. I just don't understand it.  

[00:50:37] Jamon Fries:

No. No. I don't either. I've never really under   I I've I've never really understood why we still   you know,   the Cuban cigar. Why the hell has the Cuban Coke cigar been illegal to own here in The United States for so long?  

[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:

Because the presidents are still smoking the supply that JFK got with them.   Yeah.  

[00:51:01] Jamon Fries:

You know, I mean but   it just makes absolutely no sense   that, essentially,   we are making it so that   they have to find friends that aren't friendly with us.  

[00:51:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And keep it going.   Yeah. You know, it's like everything we're doing against them right now is causing them to have to keep that way.   Yeah. It's it's   yeah. I I   I just don't understand.   Yeah.  

[00:51:34] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. I don't understand a lot of sanctions. I don't understand the sanctions we have on we had or have on Russia.   I don't understand the you know,   some of the sanctions that we have on   Iran, I can kind of understand because we're trying to prevent them from getting the nuke,  

[00:51:51] Jesse Fries:

but they're pretty close to that. No. I understand that. But, you know, it's also it's like with Iran. It's like,   I can under also understand their point of view because, you know, it was   they're just like Cuba, actually, because their government was completely controlled by The UK.  

[00:52:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:52:09] Jesse Fries:

BP was in there. They controlled everything for the oil and everything like that. And so then there was this nationalistic movement just like that. Yeah. And but this one went,   Islamic  

[00:52:21] Jamon Fries:

instead of Went major religion instead of they they went major religion instead of Exactly.   Instead of secularism.  

[00:52:29] Jesse Fries:

Right. So it's like   yeah. It's just Yeah.   Yep. Okay. Let's see here what else we got here. So Syria.   We got   oh, the South Africans.   Trump is, the 59 or so South African Afrikaners   Mhmm. That, refugees,   that Trump brought in.   So do you know that story?  

[00:53:01] Jamon Fries:

No. I don't know that one.  

[00:53:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So, basically,   in South Africa,   the government,   especially the way that Trump puts it, is that,   basically, they're trying to kick white farmers who own pretty much all the farmland   in South Africa. They're trying to kick them off the land without giving them any money for their property.   Okay. And there's been violence against them. They've been killed in certain circumstances and everything like that,   and the government will not do anything to help them. So   it's so from Trump's side and everything like that, they're saying that it's, like, a genocide sort of situation. And it kind of is. Okay.   I'm not sure if it's as bad as that, but It's definitely it's definitely persecution now. Oh, completely. Completely.  

And so Trump has, said, okay. We'll take,   the refugees,   these white refugees. I think it's funny that he's kinda saying I'll take the white ones, but, all these brown ones.   I find that kinda messed up. It's just a bit odd in my book, but, you know, whatever   when it goes to that. But yeah. So I can understand taking them, but then   allowing some other ones into that have issues, you know, would be good as well. But   with this, what's really odd about this is that the Episcopal church   who works has been working with the government for forever to for refugee work and everything like that Yeah. They said because of this action, they're gonna stop working with the government   because fuck the white Africans.  

All we wanna do,   deal with are   black and brown people. That is basically what they said.   Wow. Due to racial justice and everything like this. Yeah.   Oh god. The Episcopal Church.   They have ties to Mandela. They have ties to all the the Yeah.   That government and everything like that. Huge ties to them. And they're not willing to   upend it at all.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Definitely. So, yeah, they're not so they are actually cons canceling the it's like a hundred million dollar contract or so a year,   and they're just canceling   it because they don't wanna help the white Afrikaners.  

Yeah. I said it just doesn't make   that doesn't make sense to me either. No. It doesn't.  

[00:55:24] Jamon Fries:

If you're gonna help, you gotta help everyone.  

[00:55:27] Jesse Fries:

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I it's why is it so hard?   Yeah.   I I will know. Just because they're white?  

[00:55:39] Jamon Fries:

White people have problems too.  

[00:55:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   We always have. You know? Yeah.  

[00:55:47] Jamon Fries:

White people are not like a god that sits up on high that never has an issue.  

[00:55:51] Jesse Fries:

Now there's some white people like that, you know. Well, yeah.  

[00:55:56] Jamon Fries:

But, you know, in in   in other countries, there are black people like that. There are Asian people like that. There are Hispanic people like that. Yes. It all depends on where you live.  

[00:56:09] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. So I I've just   I just don't understand that. I really don't. It just makes no sense for Yeah. The piss the a church   to say,   we don't want white people. That's basically what they're saying.  

[00:56:23] Jamon Fries:

So, basically  

[00:56:24] Jesse Fries:

is. Yeah. Every white person in the Episcopal church should just leave. Just Yeah. They're not they're not welcome there. Nope. Not welcome at all.   I I it's just crazy.   I I just doesn't make any system.  

[00:56:38] Jamon Fries:

No. No. Not at all.  

[00:56:42] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Microsoft's cutting 7,000 jobs.  

[00:56:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I heard about that.   Yeah. I hear it's just like really funny. The article I read was, like, it's the largest   job cut that Microsoft has had since   2023.  

[00:56:58] Jesse Fries:

Since 2023.  

[00:57:00] Jamon Fries:

Where they let off 10,000   people.   Yeah. I'm like It's   You know,   2023,   that's not very long ago.  

[00:57:09] Jesse Fries:

No. It's just corporate restructuring is what it is.   Most of it's management.   Yeah. And when it comes to management, you know, if you know any corporate structure,   yeah. It's like this guy that just went into GM now. It's some cuts are gonna happen because of this. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yep.   So   I just hope it's not my wife. That's it. You know?  

[00:57:32] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.   Definitely.  

[00:57:36] Jesse Fries:

But then I could get any car I wanted. So, you know, that that that would be a That it does have its perks. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. As long as long as she can find a comparable job.   No. Completely. I'm sure she could. I wouldn't see why not. She's a Oh, yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No   let's see here.   Oh, remember that whole story,   about,   the USAID?   It was the African Development   Foundation where   the head of that had hired his buddy who then was paying him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it gets even better, dude.  

Apparently, there's this, like, four part, five part,   sort of situation going on. The the latest   is that   along the lines of being racist, just like the Episcopal Church, just say it. The   the the the the heads of this,   they're two,   black men.   But, apparently,   they framed its lawyer   after he discovered some lawbreaking that they were doing.   So the lawbreaking that he found   was that   the African Development Foundation refused to hire white people,   And the few that actually got in were treated   so poorly   that one of them actually soiled herself   Oh, damn.  

Because she was afraid to leave her desk to use the bathroom.   Damn.   Yeah. Yeah. This is in the daily wire. So, yeah, it is completely   messed up.   And when   the the their attorney,   their oversight,   when he noticed this, he noticed,   so many violations of many rules and laws   to the point that the general counsel was, like, flabbergasted. He just couldn't he just couldn't.   Right. Yeah. But when he tried to call attention to it, this is this is what the article says I'm quoting here. Officials framed him for violent threats   and removed him from his job with a bizarre manifesto that called him grimy and unwholesome.  

And this guy was white as well.  

[00:59:56] Jamon Fries:

Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, he wouldn't be grimy and unwholesome. So I something.  

[01:00:01] Jesse Fries:

I know. It's it's just are you freaking kidding me? This is USAID.   Yeah.   Yeah. So   that I am glad that it was shut down. That was, Oh, yeah. Yeah. That needed to be done. It was so corrupt.  

[01:00:18] Jamon Fries:

Oh, completely.  

[01:00:23] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Oh, also have, so   you know the David Hogg? Do you know him?  

[01:00:29] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes.  

[01:00:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So DNC vice chair.   Yeah. The DNC were former. I'm not sure if it's former yet or not.  

[01:00:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I don't know.  

[01:00:40] Jesse Fries:

But all I know is that   the main issue that they hated him for was that he said he's gonna primary or help primary off,   some current representatives and senators or anything like that.   And the Democrat party is going, you don't do that. You just don't do it. Everybody in the Democratic party is, like, going,   uh-uh. Uh-uh. Right?  

[01:01:01] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I heard an interview that he did where he gave where he's like,   the problem with the Democrat party   is all these cronies that keep holding on to power at the top. They He's not wrong.   No. He's not.   They need to have a change in direction. They need to have a change in power, and that's never gonna happen as long as the as long as the old guard is maintaining the firm control that they have. Oh, yeah. I I guess guess guess how they're getting rid of him.   Because there's actually no way to get rid of him. If I if I remember correctly, they're saying that the election was problematic, and so they're going to, you know,   election.  



[01:01:43] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. The the party is saying it messed up the procedure or something like that, and that he should have never been elected. Very, very reminiscent of what country was that over in Europe that did that same thing with Romania. In? Yeah. Romania. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so because of that, he should have never been elected vice chair is what they're saying.   Yeah. And then I saw what I'm not sure if it's, I'm not sure if it was right or true or anything like that, but I also saw   one thing with that said   that it didn't follow the,   DEI   requirements   of Yes. The Democratic Party. Because the Democratic Party has a is you have to have the right amount of genders  

[01:02:24] Jamon Fries:

and colors and this and How how dare you have a white male be the   be the Yeah. Vice chair of the Democratic National Committee. I know. I mean, no. It can't be it can't happen.  

[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:

But once again,   I call this bullshit.   Yep. And it's just   more democ   more undemocratic   processes   Oh, yeah. In the Democratic Party, like getting Kamala Harris,   to be,   their choice. It's completely undemocratic. I I Yeah. As an institution,   the Democratic Party has   got to change. But don't get me wrong. The Republican Party has to change too. But Oh, absolutely.   If you could've be if you could've be called the Democrats,   how about you   have democracy   in your process? Just saying. I think I I I know it's odd, but, you know, it's a the Republicans, at least the Republic. You know? Yeah. There's no you don't need   democracy for a Republic. Just saying. Yeah.  



[01:03:25] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   And this is the second time in a row now that they have that they have made changes in an undemocratic way.   Yeah. And yet they say that   we are destroying democracy.   I'm not really sure how that works.  

[01:03:40] Jesse Fries:

Well well well, when they say that, it's a big d. It's as in the Democratic Party, not, actual democracy.   That's how I was reading it. Can take pride in it. Yeah. No. See, that's how I read it. That is seriously because Yeah. Whenever they say that, it's   only against the Democratic Party. It's like, oh, so you're not in power anymore.   Wow. That's democracy   with a small d. Yes. Yeah.   You know, it's like, I don't know what you want to say, dude. You know? That that that's the system. That's democracy in a nutshell. You know? So Yep.   Let's see. Did we cover most of all that? Should we get to, like, science and whatnot?  



[01:04:24] Jamon Fries:

Well, there's another one,   that,   you you know, the Democrat   congress people that, stormed the Newark Ice facility.  

[01:04:35] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:04:38] Jamon Fries:

There is now a bill   there's now a, resolution   been put forward in congress   to remove them from any of the boards that they currently sit on.  

[01:04:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That kinda went crazy. I don't even know what happened. I did.  

[01:04:54] Jamon Fries:

Did you watch the video or anything? Or Yeah. I did. Yeah. Uh-huh. So what happened is   they decided to do a   impromptu   pop inspection according to Uh-huh. Right.   Which   they   technically   are kind of allowed to do? No. They're 100%   allowed to. The the the Well, you're they're they're they're allowed members of congress. They're they're allowed they're allowed to tour the facilities   at any time.  

[01:05:24] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Without warning.  

[01:05:25] Jamon Fries:

The general   the general process of it, however, is that you call them up and say, we would like to tour your facility.  

[01:05:34] Jesse Fries:

The but that doesn't matter. The law is Right.  

[01:05:36] Jamon Fries:

The problem came in though   is that they also brought the Newark   Mayor with them   and wanted him to have the same access to the same tour   that they were going to be that they should be given.  

[01:05:51] Jesse Fries:

Well, they got the tour, actually, from what I understand. They actually went in Yeah. And then they came out, and then this shit happened.   Really? From from Yes. I didn't hear that aspect of it. That is the last thing that I read. It was just in the most latest article that I read on the thing is that they actually went in,   and then they came out.  

[01:06:14] Jamon Fries:

So they left they left the building. They left the premises.   Correct. They met up with the new with the Newark Mayor.   Uh-huh.   And them and the Newark Mayor   rushed into the gate   when they were letting a bus in.   Oy. So they got into the end of the staging area where the buses go, pull into in between in between gates.   Uh-huh. At that point in time, security came up and said,   the mayor   anyone who is not a congressperson   is not allowed to be here, so you need to leave. If you don't leave, you will be arrested.  

[01:06:50] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:06:53] Jamon Fries:

And then   the congress people started   fighting saying,   this is the mayor. You have to let him in.   Yeah. No. You don't. No. He's the mayor of a town. He's not part of the federal government.  

[01:07:07] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. Right.  

[01:07:09] Jamon Fries:

He's not a congressman.   He's running for governor. And even that even if he were the governor,   he wouldn't have he wouldn't be allowed in.  

[01:07:18] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Yeah.  

[01:07:20] Jamon Fries:

And so that's how this all started. They they they told the mayor that he was trespassing because he had stormed into in from the past the first gate. He was now on private property.  

[01:07:30] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:07:33] Jamon Fries:

And he wouldn't leave, so they arrested him.  

[01:07:36] Jesse Fries:

Okay. This is what,   one of   the reps said. They said we entered the facility,   came back out to speak to the mayor, and then ICE agents began shoving us is what they said.   This is not how we entered the facility. We were escorted in by guards   because we have lawful   oversight authority.   So, yeah, it's after they came back out. And then Okay. So yeah. Yeah. It's  

[01:08:05] Jamon Fries:

But, I mean, it it wasn't that they that they met up with the mayor and started getting shoved. It's that they met up with the mayor and the four of them Uh-huh.  

[01:08:14] Jesse Fries:

Entered into the facility grounds when the gate opened to allow a bus hit. Yeah. Yeah. The mayor doesn't have a right to see what's going on inside the federal No. Establishment.   It's,   he would need a warrant, I think. Yes. He would. Get in there. So And  

[01:08:30] Jamon Fries:

if if you listen throughout the argument and throughout the fighting   Uh-huh. They keep saying, well, we're only we're only here to make sure that everyone inside is doing okay.   Right. So that's why I thought that they hadn't gotten inside.   Got it. Got it. Yeah. No. It's like that's what what they were saying is that was as if they were being  

[01:08:51] Jesse Fries:

stopped from entering the building at all. Right. Right. No. They they were escorted by guards in and out and everything like that. And yeah. So  

[01:09:00] Jamon Fries:

so they did what they needed to do, and then they wanted to make a scene, I think. Yeah. And then so then the con the congress lady, she started body checking this kid the ICE agents,   elbowing them.   Yeah. They they they wrapped their butt they wrapped themselves around the mayor's that ice that the police couldn't get in and arrest him.   I I mean,   you're gonna get manhandled if you do stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're   interfering   with the police's with the police's job.   You're going to get manhandled.  

[01:09:35] Jesse Fries:

You will. Yeah. And you're trying to let have somebody sneak in that shouldn't be there? I'm sorry. That's, yeah.   I am   it's a crazy situation. But yeah. It really is. Did get in. So yeah. It's a  

[01:09:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that that the fact that they got in already and already did the tour, that takes away 99%   of   the ICE's at fault arguments.  

[01:10:02] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:10:04] Jamon Fries:

Because they let them in as they're supposed to. They did everything they were supposed to. They just didn't let the mayor in, and that's what they got pissed off and thought about.  

[01:10:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's messed up. That that is It really is. Messed up. Yeah.   Okay. Well, one last story here, about   the international beyond before we get to,   like, politics and science and or or to sports and science and whatnot. So Yeah. Apparently, some bombs were found in the DHL system.   You know DHL?  

[01:10:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:10:40] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It it's like a UPS, but it's European and whatnot. Yep.   So so, basically, they found some bombs in there.   And,   they're blaming it on Russia, of course, because, why not? Soros. Yeah. I guess you blame everything on Russia. And what's funny though is that   two of the suspects that they found were Ukrainian.   So I'm just saying,   it's like no matter what,   they keep like, it's like the the Nord Stream two or something like that that was bombed.   Yeah. It seems to be Ukrainians that did that with maybe your help.   I seriously think these things are false flags   as in Oh, yeah. Ukraine is trying   to keep Europe on edge, trying to keep them in the fight, and trying to actually attack Russia. I really think that's what Yeah.  

Is going on here. I could be wrong, but surprised me at all. It   seems to be their modus operandi. It really does. It's It really does. It it always has been.   Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:11:40] Jamon Fries:

So there's another guy that they represent they say and do is to get Europe to join them against Russia. Yep. I mean Yep. That's all that is.   So   yeah.  

[01:11:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. All messed up.  

[01:11:54] Jamon Fries:

That indeed it is.  

[01:11:56] Jesse Fries:

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Okay. So, yeah, help us out any way you can, and that would be great.   Let's see here. What do we got?   Oh, I guess we're good. Know. What what's this about Rose and Shoeless Joe? Has has Okay. We'll get to that. We'll we'll we'll we'll get to that. We'll get to that.   Let let me let's just talk about, this, Wisconsin judge, you know, that was arrested. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So,   New York Times and whatnot don't seem to be happy,   and Democrats aren't really happy, but   a federal grand jury actually indicted her. So it's not just her being arrested. She has been indicted through a federal grand jury in Wisconsin.  

[01:14:13] Jamon Fries:

As she should be? That's what I'm thinking too. Why why is it that every time I hear you say that Democrats and the press aren't happy about it, I'm I start getting   just gleeful because I know something good happened.  

[01:14:31] Jesse Fries:

It's your internal   nature. You know? Yes. You you you've you've been so long on that side, on the, more conservative bent side that,   you just get glee when that happens. It's just what it is. It it's just like they get glee when something bad happens to us. You know? So Yep. That's what I'm thinking.   But beyond that,   in science   so it looks like they have they may have figured out   how to combine,   what is it exactly? I have it written down here. I should have been looking while I was doing it, but I decided to off the cuff it, and, you know, that never works.   Yeah. So so so, basically, some Finnish theoretical physicists say they may have found a unifying theory,   that brings together   gravity   and the quantum   field theory. So quantum mechanics,   with gravity. Because they can do it with, they've been able to figure it out how to do it with the other universal forces.  

Right. Such as electromagnetism   and the weak and strong nuclear forces. Right? Yeah. Those are the four forces with gravity   that   create the universe. Right? Yes.   They think they have they may have found the unifying theory,   actually.   And it   is it's along the same lines as the electromagnetism   and the weak nuclear force, the nuclear forces theories,   to where it's not this weird string theory whatnot not that you just really can't comprehend. It's Right. It's actually very simplistic,   and they've been able to   they haven't fully proven it yet. This is still   in the very early stages, but they have made it Right. Pass a certain threshold,   and it actually allows for Einstein's theories and everything like that. And it's seamless throughout. You don't have to change anything.  

Oh, damn.   Yeah. So   it seems quite exciting, actually. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. And it says it seems to work.   So, yeah, I'm  

[01:16:49] Jamon Fries:

I'm kinda excited about that. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. To to not to not have to make any changes to make it work throughout everything   Yeah. It would be insane for the science world.  

[01:17:00] Jesse Fries:

Which actually makes sense why you wouldn't have to because, well, why would the universe have to have a couple different laws for quantum It it  

[01:17:07] Jamon Fries:

it doesn't happen unnaturally   in the universe, so why would why would we not be able to do it naturally and simply as well?  

[01:17:15] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, it's quite entertaining, but,   I I find it fascinating. But, yeah, that yeah. I it looks like we're getting to the point where, they may have solved it.   Nice.  

[01:17:27] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. That was huge. That would I think that would be could be a huge step towards space exploration and stuff like that. Well, not only that, but we would be able to under what they're saying is that if this actually holds,  

[01:17:40] Jesse Fries:

we can then actually start to understand the big bang   and black holes, what actually happens inside black holes. Okay. You you know, like the black hole that some people say that we live in.   Yeah.   Yeah.   It it it's really cool. It is really cool. It really is. Yeah.   Let's see here. And then I had,   oh, the study that shows that,   apparently,   gender of a robot can actually   mean something as in you might not pay attention   to   what or give at least much credence to what a certain gender of a robot says.   Okay.   So they they did these two studies, and they and then this, website, the study finds Org,   they they they combined them. But, basically, what this one   says is that,   so there's, like, four different   types of people. There's powerless women, powerful women, powerless men, and powerful men. So, you know, the powerful are, like,   industry leaders and everything like that or, you you know, and then powerless are, like, I don't know.  

I don't know. The construction workers. The No. No. I don't even think that. I think I think it's more like, just the ones that don't   more submissive. I I think it's talking more about submissiveness and whatnot   is Okay. Is how I interpret it. I think that'd be the best way to do it, to think about it. But, basically, they it says that powerless women trust male gendered robots more than female gendered robots.   So Okay. It and they tested this by, like, having   supposed robots,   give recommendations on a menu,   and they Okay. Didn't trust the female robot. Okay. But then if you take the powerful women, powerful men, and the powerless men,   they didn't care  

[01:19:45] Jamon Fries:

what gender the robot was. So it's only the powerless women that cared.  

[01:19:49] Jesse Fries:

Apparently. Yeah. Yeah. So it it seems kinda odd to me.  

[01:19:54] Jamon Fries:

And that I was I was I was thinking that it might be, like, if you think that that   women talking to you is nagging, then you're gonna hit then you're going to hear a female robotic voice is nagging as well.  

[01:20:07] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's kind of that but in reverse. The study said that they they said that, these powerless women, they they they   they really pay more attention to men,   especially, like, than they do to,   women. I so it's basically that, but in reverse in a kind of way. And then they they   thread this through a different study   where   they asked a bunch of college kids which one   which type of robot they would do would actually pay attention to, and they check for cuteness. So if they, like,   made them look like a baby sort of situation, you know, you you know, you infantilize,   the robot, you know, big eyes, big forehead, everything like that.  

And for college kids at least, because it's only about college kids in this one. It's like, for college kids,   the cuteness wiped out the gender difference.   So if you make them to the point where   they're too cute that to the point where they're not even male or female. Because   a baby, you can't tell if it's a boy or a girl. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's the only way   by how they look. You you you put a bow in one hair, that's the only way you know. Otherwise, there's no way to know. So I I I find in essence, though, overall, I find the whole study and the whole article to   be pointless.  

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.   But some people will probably read into it and everything like that. But it's still What did we learn from this?  

[01:21:38] Jamon Fries:

Uh-huh.   Submissive   women listen to men.  

[01:21:42] Jesse Fries:

I think that is what we learned. And and and this is what we learned. Out and cuteness wipes out   any everything. So Yeah.   Yeah. I think that is actually all we learned.   Okay. Let's talk about the Pete Rose,   Shoeless Joe.   So,   the the commissioner of baseball has actually   that he now says that that he's lifted the ban   on them getting into the hall of fame and into the MLB   just in general. They he he Okay. The the whole thing was that he lifted   he says a lifetime ban is only good for your lifetime.   Okay. And so because of that, you can actually   be, like, voted into   the hall of fame and everything like this.  



[01:22:35] Jamon Fries:

So after they've passed away, then they can they can get into the hall of fame. Right. And this is everybody they're saying. You know? So it is  

[01:22:43] Jesse Fries:

you know, I can understand Pete Rose   because he gambled. Yes. But he never he never gambled. He he never he never tried to change the outcome of a game for gambling. Correct. So he was just a Joe, however.   Exactly. And I had to look this one up. I had to look this one up, actually, because I'm going because some people are saying, oh, he was innocent to this, that, and everything like that. So I had to really look this up. But   when it comes to the Black Sox,   as they were called,   screw them. That that that's my personal opinion on that. And so I looked up Shoeless Joe,   and it's set in the section that because he kept changing the story.  

Yes. Shoeless Joe Jackson. He kept changing the story.   But when it came to a grand jury, so under oath,   he said   his his testimony   was just contradiction.   It was let's see here.   Jackson,   provided a fairly detailed account of the fix with from his per sec   perspective, including his acceptance of $5,000   before the start of game five.   Jackson insisted that he had done nothing in the field to earn his payoff, though. So he   he said he played as good as he always did.   He never because he he had a batting average of,   three seventy five in Yeah. So he played well,   but he took the money for the  

[01:24:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Whole situation. And as soon as soon as you take that money, it don't matter if it actually affected how you play or not. Nope. Exactly.   Even even just sub   even just subliminally,   he may have   accidentally   missed something or at or not or maybe he missed timed the the swing at at a certain net bat or something like that. No. Actually, it it they they they say  

[01:24:43] Jesse Fries:

his record was better than everybody else's   in the World Series.   Yeah.   He he this they did statistics and everything like that. It it it shows that he   he played well. Maybe not as well as he could have, but he didn't let anything happen. But he took money for it.   Yeah.   Plain and simple. You know? It's like,   I   because of that, I'm kinda waffly on the shoeless Joe Jackson, on him personally. Yeah.   But this decision   also   allowed everybody else on the Black Sox to get into the hall of fame too if they were eligible. Which   no. That should never be allowed. Some of them had a batting   average of point zero   five or something like that.  

And these were good players, you know. So it was just  

[01:25:34] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. These are players in the World Series. You don't have a batting average of that if you're in the World Series.  

[01:25:40] Jesse Fries:

You really don't. Yeah. Not that bad. You know? So  

[01:25:44] Jamon Fries:

unless you're facing off a damn good pitcher.  

[01:25:47] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. You know, it's   as I said, Pete Rose,   I completely supported that. Yeah.   Absolutely.   But these other guys I I think what happened is that   the commissioner   had to do for lifetime, and so let everybody else in. Because do you know who actually got this done?   Do you know who actually got this done? Who? Trump.   He talked to the commissioner,   like, back in April.   Okay. And they had a discussion.   And he goes, you should let Pete Rosen.   And and he,   Trump said he's gonna pardon Pete Rose and everything like that.   So it's like   and so I what I think the way it seems in my head is that   the commissioner goes, how can I do this?  

How can I get Pete Rose   to be able to be inducted into,   the hall of fame?   Because he is one of the greatest players of all time. Plain, simple. I I know  

[01:26:53] Jamon Fries:

I I know a much better way that he could have done it. Uh-huh.   Now that gambling is legalized in sports, you can now gamble on sports.  

[01:27:03] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:27:05] Jamon Fries:

Then,   I mean,   you could just all all you have to say is, yes. He gambled on sports, but that's now something that we don't frown upon. So, therefore, we are we have decided to make it so that he's eligible. I I I I agree with you, but, apparently, they got their  

[01:27:23] Jesse Fries:

they felt stuck.   Yeah. And so because of that, they came up with this whole thing of going, well,   once they die,   then they then they're allowed back into the MLB.   It's   to me, that's how because otherwise, why would you let those other Black Sox in? Shoeless Joe? Okay. No. No. He he he was a great hitter. He   Yeah.   You you know, maybe have oh, he's banned from have a section of the   hall hall of fame   that says these are the greatest players that have been banned from us, and then show their greatness. But   let them know they're banned because they cheat. You know? It's a Yeah.   But, yeah, when it comes to Pete Rose yeah. But everybody else, no. The Black Sox?  

No. I'm sorry. No. No. I just don't think so.  

[01:28:11] Jamon Fries:

No.   They as a team I mean, you know, for forget about Cheeless Joe just for for the moment.   Uh-huh. The Black Sox as a team   through the World Series.   Well, eight of them. Yeah. Eight of them. Yep. But it was as a team. I mean, the whole the whole team knew what was going on.  

[01:28:32] Jesse Fries:

From what   the grand jury did and everything like that, only eight of them were held, like, truly accountable.  

[01:28:39] Jamon Fries:

Right.   And but they were the only ones that were in Nobody looking at nobody looking at that game can look could especially the the other players   could have looked at those team members and said,   dude, there's something  

[01:28:54] Jesse Fries:

messed up going on. Well, it's also eight. The the there's nine players playing   them. Yeah.   Yeah. So but yeah. No. It wasn't it wasn't the,   it wasn't the bench. The bench had nothing to do with it.   And maybe not the   I'm not sure if it was the pitcher or whatnot, but, yeah, I think, but, yeah, it was the whole series. Which position it was. But no. It was also the whole series.   Yeah. And apparently, there's this whole thing where I I was reading this article, and apparently, it was, like, game one, they threw. And Jackson's, like, going, where's my money? I didn't get paid. And they go, oh, don't worry.   They they haven't given it to us. He goes, well, why are we still doing this then? And then he goes, fine. He he got talked into doing it again. And then game two came around.  

And he goes, where's my money? And he go, oh, they still haven't given it to us. He in the in   the end, he wasn't paid until the fifth game.   He was paid $5,000,   back Yeah. In the   teens,   which was a lot of money. But yeah. So it's a it's a whole messed up situation. It's,   Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. I Screw the black socks. Personally,  

[01:30:03] Jamon Fries:

for myself, just just the fact   that that he took the money, that Yep. He was asking why aren't we getting paid yet. Uh-huh.  

[01:30:14] Jesse Fries:

He should not be in the in the hall of fame. Is that that's what I'm saying too? He he he kept teaching his story, though.  

[01:30:21] Jamon Fries:

I mean, a truly non a truly non corrupt player   would have   outed them immediately.  

[01:30:30] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep.   100%.  

[01:30:34] Jamon Fries:

One hundred %. So he accepted the corruption, so, no, he should not be in the in the hall of fame, in my opinion.  

[01:30:40] Jesse Fries:

I agree. I agree.   Just like you should never trust this will be the last story. You should never trust   what a Brit says is hot. I'm just saying for Christ's sakes.   So on Sunday, they had a heat warning. Right?   Because it was too bloody hot over there. Okay. Mind you, I'm talking Texas. We're about to get up to a hundred and five today or so. It it it's damn hot down here right now. Yeah.   But in The UK,   guess guess   can you guess what temperature   they had a heat warning about?   80?   No. Not even.   26 degrees Celsius, which equals out to 78   degrees   Fahrenheit.  

And they heat warning?   They had a heat warning. This news article,   it goes, okay. For heat exhaustion, make  

[01:31:38] Jamon Fries:

We started hearing about that yesterday because they're expecting our heat index to hit 95   on on Wednesday.  

[01:31:47] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Real temperature.  

[01:31:49] Jamon Fries:

But Yeah.   The no. 78 is like, dude, get the hell outside. Don't stay inside. It's awesome out.  

[01:31:58] Jesse Fries:

Right?   How about you take off your fucking blazer, dude? I'm just saying. Yeah.  

[01:32:04] Jamon Fries:

If you didn't dress up like it was negative 10 degrees outside,   you wouldn't be having problems.   Exactly.  

[01:32:16] Jesse Fries:

So if a Brit ever tells you it's hot, don't trust them. Just don't trust them.   Because 78 which which come on. That's a perfect day.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is a perfect day. And I believe everybody in America will tell you that is a perfect day.  

[01:32:33] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't think I can't think of anybody that would say otherwise.  

[01:32:38] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   The the Brits. Yeah. So,   and with that, thank you for joining us for episode 37 of the Mindless Meandering podcast. Make sure to donate if you can do that. And I am Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries.   And you guys have a great week.