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A roaming conversation between brothers, covering Tariffs, Ukraine and cockroach milk.

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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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Show Notes:
https://mindlesssea.com/show-notes-3-12-25-ep-28-another-crazy-week-in-trump-land/

(00:00:20) Introduction

(00:00:45) The Problem with Clickbait Titles

(00:01:51) Internal Politics and Legal Missteps

(00:04:26) Government and Employment Dynamics

(00:07:52) Education System Critique

(00:08:16) Justice Department and Legal Bonds

(00:09:57) Biden's Autopen Controversy

(00:12:54) Columbia University and Free Speech

(00:17:32) ICE Policies and Deportation App

(00:19:09) Leaking ICE Raids and Homeland Security

(00:21:58) Impersonating ICE Agents

(00:25:05) Truckers and Language Laws

(00:28:05) Economic Concerns and Tariffs

(00:35:16) Canada's Tariff Retaliation

(00:40:14) India's Tariff Reductions

(00:46:14) European Tariffs and Food Regulations

(00:50:45) EU Military Spending and Deficits

(00:55:32) Ukraine Conflict and Peace Talks

(01:02:13) International Relations and Allies

(01:08:13) UK's Controversial Financial Decisions

(01:12:13) UK's Sentencing Guidelines and Sharia Law

(01:15:31) RAF's Pilot Shortage and DEI Issues

(01:18:12) Value for Value Model and Listener Support

(01:21:59) Science Discoveries: Viking Ships and Space Exploration

(01:26:44) SuperSolid Light and Quantum Physics

(01:30:00) Health Studies and Dietary Fats

(01:35:24) Young Adults' Happiness and Technology

(01:38:09) Tech Innovations: Foldable Phones and Modular Laptops

(01:41:02) Celebrity News and Cultural Commentary

(01:43:54) Insect Milk and Dietary Alternatives

[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody.   It is Wednesday,   March 12, and we are live with episode number 28 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries,   and my son had a nightmare last night, so I am loaded up on I'm still loading up on sugar, and I'm as loaded as I can get on caffeine just to stay awake.  

[00:00:41] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries, and I am really starting to hate clickbait titles.  

[00:00:46] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. They are horrible.  

[00:00:48] Jamon Fries:

There there was one that came out from the Independent in The UK.   Mysterious   unmanned warship spotted off Washington State Coast.  

[00:00:57] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:01:00] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you know, you you write that. What is it? What do you think? You think, like,   what the hell are people doing? You know? Right. Right. Right. But now it's our navy testing a new unmanned warship that we've got that we built.  

[00:01:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. People need to watch out for clickbait. It's just   it's ridiculous.  

[00:01:21] Jamon Fries:

There's so many times I've I've   I've I've clicked on the clickbait,   and the story is nothing like what the clickbait says it is.  

[00:01:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:01:33] Jamon Fries:

That's about right. It's very frustrating.  

[00:01:36] Jesse Fries:

It is very yeah. Yeah. It is very frustrating.   Just like trying to keep up with the news.   Oh, god.   Yeah.   So much going on. So much going on. It's nonstop.   Completely nonstop.   Where where do we wanna start? Do we wanna just start with, internal stuff or Trump with other stuff other countries or   tariffs?  

[00:02:02] Jamon Fries:

Let's start with the, let's start with the internal stuff.  

[00:02:05] Jesse Fries:

Internal stuff. Okay.   Let's see here.   Yeah. It looks like   let's see. I have this one where,   apparently, the Trump's lawyers per Alito, they kinda made a mistake in their supreme in, you know, when the Supreme Court said   that,   you had to pay that money out, that $2,000,000.   Apparently, Alito in his   opinion,   his dissent, he said, you guys basically, that they messed up because he said it looked like that the case was actually filed in the wrong court.   So instead of appealing the decision, they should've appealed   the where it's actually located.  

See, this is this is the law, man. It is so crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

[00:02:54] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah, that kinda makes sense, though, because, you know, I've I've heard so many people talking about how the the this lower court   is not should not have the position to control what the what the executive branch is spending money on.  

[00:03:09] Jesse Fries:

Right. But   I I I've heard that too, but I I I find that argument complete bullshit, really.   I I I think this is this is the job of the judiciary, and you have to start at a low court, and then you move up as you go along is how I view it.   And anyways, this is for this money is for services already rendered.   This isn't for new stuff.  

[00:03:35] Jamon Fries:

Oh, so it's okay. That I didn't know. Yeah. This is for already rendered services.   Yeah. We gotta pay for that shit. Right? That's what I'm saying. If they already did the work, even if we don't like the work that they did, if they did the work, we gotta pay them. Yeah. Contract. Contract law. Yeah. Simple. Basic contract law. Like, guy builds your house even even though you might not be happy with it, you still gotta pay him for it. Yeah. Yeah. But none of these stories actually say it's for services rendered, but it's actually for services rendered. They don't. Yeah. It's for services rendered. That's it. Yeah. You throw that in there, and, yeah, you gotta pay the bill. Yeah. You just have to pay the bill.  

[00:04:11] Jesse Fries:

Yep. And then you try to catch up later. So, yeah, that's,   that that that that that's what's going on with that court case.  

[00:04:19] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:04:22] Jesse Fries:

Let's see   here. Oh,   Doge.   Apparently what was it? When was this? Let me see when   it was, like, last week,   March 6. So, like, six days ago.   So Thursday, Donald Trump got the whole cabinet together, and he told Doge that he can't fire people,   Elon Musk and Doge. He said, you can't fire people. That's not your job. You're you you can   talk with the cabinet members, the secretaries Yeah. And the departments and say, well, these are the cuts that would need to be happened. And then those departments can go and fire people as needed. Yeah. See, that makes sense.  

[00:05:03] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

[00:05:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So I mean, I think  

[00:05:08] Jamon Fries:

that Musk's entire role is advisory. He can't actually do anything. I mean Right. Right. Yeah.  

[00:05:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So I'm thinking it it's like it was crazy at first, and now people are starting to go, okay. Well, this is a bit   too crazy.   And even Trump is allowing,   things to settle down a little bit.   Yeah. But keep going at the fast pace at the same time. So Right.  

[00:05:34] Jamon Fries:

The fast pace but controlled because, you know, the I I think that what was going on originally was anytime Musk said, you know, these people need to be terminated   Uh-huh. The department heads would just instantly   terminate them rather than looking to see if they're essential positions.   And and what once once we had to start hiring people back because we couldn't afford to let them go Yep. Yeah. It's it's there was a lot of craziness there. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. And it's like  

[00:06:05] Jesse Fries:

and with that, what it was it yesterday or the day before the Department of Education,   is firing half the people, like, today? Yeah. They're, like, gone. Yep. So yeah. But that was done within the Department of Education.   Yes. It wasn't it wasn't Musk that did that. Yeah. It wasn't Doge or anything like that. So Nope.  

[00:06:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I love all of the, all the stuff. What are what are how are our kids gonna learn anything now?   And I'm like,   you do realize   how bad the education system has gotten ever since the Department of Education was put into place. Yeah. Test scores have actually, fallen quite quickly. I don't think there's been a single year where they've gone up.  

[00:06:53] Jesse Fries:

No. They really haven't. But, apparently, if you actually look at the history of the Department of Education,   it used to always just be part of another,   department. It was just a subsidiary.   Yep.   And it goes back to, like, the eighteen hundreds.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. It goes long back. But once it became law and they really started getting   really involved,  

[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:

it started Once it became its own its own separate bureaucracy   Yep. Yep. It just   it got power hungry, got control hungry, and figured and figured out that they could tell every school in The US  

[00:07:28] Jesse Fries:

how to teach people. Well And that they had to teach. But then also, it's like all the forms that all these schools have to fill out. Schools had to hire just administration just handle the forms. Yeah. So you're paying extra people, but the government is just paying you the money just basically to pay for those extra people because the department of ed actually doesn't send you that much money.   Right.   So yeah. It's  

[00:07:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, that that's the one thing that I've always found interesting was that   99%   of the school funding doesn't come from the federal government.   So why does the federal government need to be in control of everything?  

[00:08:06] Jesse Fries:

Because that's what they like to do. They just like to be in control of everything. I swear to God. I Yeah. It makes no sense to me.  

[00:08:13] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. No. It doesn't.  

[00:08:16] Jesse Fries:

Oh, speaking of courts and everything like that, looks like,   the justice department,   they're trying something to where they   make it so that if you have   a court case against the government, you have to put bond   towards the final decision just in case if you lose. So you have to put a bond for what   the government might lose   if with all the wrangolins   if you lose the case.   What? Yep. Yep. Let's see here.   Where is that?  

[00:08:56] Jamon Fries:

So, basically, what they're saying is that if you can't afford to pay for   all of the lawyers that we're gonna throw at you,   you can't bring a case.  

[00:09:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Basically. Basically. Or everything that could like, what a delay could actually cost and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.   Apparently, it's law. This is law that has always been there or has been there for a long time. Oh, really?   Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's a mechanism to stop frivolous lawsuits is what it is. Yeah.   And so Which makes sense. Right. But the justice department hasn't been using it lately.   Okay. And now they're going, hey, we could use this to stop all of these   asinine,   law fair, lawsuits that are coming out, You know? So Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.  



[00:09:45] Jamon Fries:

Interesting.  

[00:09:47] Jesse Fries:

Right?   You got anything?  

[00:09:58] Jamon Fries:

Well,   let's,   change topic a little bit here.  

[00:10:03] Jesse Fries:

Okay. The,  

[00:10:05] Jamon Fries:

Biden auto pen.  

[00:10:07] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. The auto pen.  

[00:10:10] Jamon Fries:

Read an article. It was talking about how, you know, this how this might make it so that   nothing that by that was signed   by Biden   Yep. Yep. Yep. Is actually could can be considered official. It's all null and void.   From what from it was from what it was saying, there's only, like,   two or three  

[00:10:32] Jesse Fries:

things that actually have his actual signature on them. That that they found. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's kinda crazy.  

[00:10:40] Jamon Fries:

It it brings new light to the comment that he made that that was made a long time ago where,   where that one senator or a member of the house   was talking to Biden. He's like, why did you sign this bill? It's   it's horrible.   And Biden was like, well, I never signed anything like that. Yeah. No. That was the speaker of the house, Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Nope. It it it makes it puts a new light on it. You know? It it makes me think, okay. So   Biden might not might not rumor   not because he was   mentally not there,   but because he didn't freaking even know about it.  



[00:11:18] Jesse Fries:

Possibly. Possibly. You never know with those auto pens. But Yeah.   But auto pens have been used for a long time.   So Never to this extent, though. And the But that doesn't matter. The extent doesn't matter. Yeah. There's precedence for it. So Yeah. To me, that means, yeah, you can bitch and you complain and go  

[00:11:38] Jamon Fries:

But in all essence, all those things are still legal and everything like that. Yeah. Just yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a to me, that does it does bring up an interesting point, though, you know, as to whether it should be allowed to be that like that in the future or not.   You know, autopen, for for some things, it makes sense to to use an autopen,   you know, for things that are, you know, that are just   not really   worth the president's time to have to sign.  

[00:12:07] Jesse Fries:

But, like, laws and stuff like that, you know Yeah. I know. I know. I'm just saying it's, it the precedence is there. You'd have to Yeah. I don't know what you could do on that one.   Yeah. Yeah. It's   yeah. I I I I know a lot of conservatives are going, oh, this means everything he did except for that one or two things. Everything is void. You know? I'm like, oh. No. Because there's there's a lot of, Republican presidents that have done that that have been using it as well. So Every president.   Yeah. Since auto pens have been used.   Which has been for a long time. It's it's been a very long time. Yeah. Exactly. So   yeah. It's not really a   massive thing or anything like that for me. So Yep.  

Let's see here. Oh, we could talk about that, Colombian University kid, that was arrested.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The pro Palestinian   one. So there was   yeah. He was arrested by ICE, and, they were gonna deport him.  

[00:13:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I heard there were a lot of come a lot of claims coming from his side about how this was because he practiced his free speech.   So that so arresting him and departing him is against free speech.  

[00:13:25] Jesse Fries:

You   you know, I I I looked into this. He has no arrests,   but only this nice one is an arrest.   Yeah.   So,   yeah, I kinda agree with that argument. Just saying. You know?   It's free speech.   He committed no crime.   The college did not arrest him.   You know, you can argue he led it, but there's no crime against the the the he hasn't been arrested for anything  

[00:13:52] Jamon Fries:

except for So he so he wasn't one that broke into the building and all that other stuff? He may have, but he was never arrested  

[00:14:00] Jesse Fries:

for it. Yeah. So, you you know, I I I know ICE has really,   lowered   the,   what you can be kicked out of the country for, even for green card holders and everything like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Any any offense now can get you kicked out. But Yep. But then they also added in their moral poop perpetuity.   You know?   So, basically,   oh, that's bad. That's not morally right. So we can get rid of you. Hey. That that one is,   that's questionable to me. No. I I I think that's questionable too. So I think in the end   yeah. Okay. You wanna get rid of him, but   he's won, and he has no criminal record beyond   his only arrest is actually being arrested by ICE this last time. That's it.  

Yeah. So   just to me that shows that yeah. To me that shows that it it it was basically   arrested him for his free speech.   You know? It's just   Yep.   So I I I I agree with the judge,   putting a kibosh on that, and hopefully I didn't hear about the judge putting a kibosh on that. Yeah. Yeah. The, judge said   he they said you at least he held off,   being able to send them out.   Oh, okay. Okay. So but yeah. No. It's   that's how I view it. It it seems like yeah. It it's  

[00:15:26] Jamon Fries:

yeah. And at the at the same time that's going on, Trump is pulling,   a lot of federal funding out of Columbia University.  

[00:15:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's how much is he pulling out?   Oh.   Was it, like, 400,000,000 or something like that?  

[00:15:44] Jamon Fries:

Something like that?   Let me see.   Yeah. I'm not sure.  

[00:16:03] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.  

[00:16:06] Jamon Fries:

I'd have to watch the entire news article to see if they did that. This is one that doesn't have any prints. So  

[00:16:13] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. I I I think it was something like that. But, yeah.   It it was a good chunk. It was. It was. It it was a really good chunk. Apparently, though,   there was a lady   at Columbia,   if I read the story right. I didn't read it in-depth or anything like that, but it sounded like she was,   she was she's Israeli, and she's, like, in charge of the antisemitism   sort of thing on   the campus as in trying to combat it.  

[00:16:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:16:46] Jesse Fries:

And she used to be, like, Musad or military intelligence over in Israel. So she's a spy. Right. Yeah. So we have a spy   trying to   I thought that was kinda funny.  

[00:16:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I just looked it up. Yeah. It was 400,000,000.  

[00:17:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.   Yeah. No. It's  

[00:17:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They've also they're they're also cutting a lot of funding to Maine universities now   because Maine is is refusing to,   to do the,  

[00:17:17] Jesse Fries:

only females in in female sports. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's that little, exchange in between the governor of Maine and Trump.   Yep.   And he goes, okay. Take us to court. Let's see you there.   Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. It's   seems about right. But along the ice thing,   they they took you know that, app that, Biden had created?  

[00:17:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:17:45] Jesse Fries:

Well, they took that app, and they've changed it.  

[00:17:48] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's now a registration.  

[00:17:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's a registration to get out of the country. It's like Yep. You you go in there and you say, okay. I'm leaving the country now.  

[00:17:58] Jamon Fries:

You know? Basically. You well, e either that or you tell them where where you're at, and they tell you when to leave. You know, they they they help they help you leave. But,   from what I've heard, if you'd if you'd anyone that doesn't   use that app to let them know I'm ready to leave Uh-huh. They're gonna it's gonna be a lot harder for them to get back in legally if they ever try. Well, they would have to prove that they actually did leave, voluntarily.  

[00:18:26] Jesse Fries:

Because if you leave involuntarily,   you can't come back into the country under Trump's policy. So Yeah. Mhmm.   Which makes sense to me. You came illegally. Why should we allow you it's like overstaying your visa. It's like,   good luck trying to get another visa. You know, it's,   Yep.   It makes perfect sense. Yep. Yep. So yeah. Self deportation tool now. It's funny that they use the same app. They just   I thought that was kinda funny.  

[00:18:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That definitely is.   Let me see  

[00:19:04] Jesse Fries:

here.  

[00:19:09] Jamon Fries:

Talking about ice   Mhmm. They've,   they think they they well, they've announced that they found the people that were leaking   the ICE raids.  

[00:19:19] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[00:19:22] Jamon Fries:

They,   suppose I guess, they were all part of Homeland Security.   They've there were two or three people that that were every every time every time a mission was gonna be going out, they would send out a warning.   Wow.   Yeah.  

[00:19:39] Jesse Fries:

That's just crazy. I just don't understand it.   Mhmm. It's   but it's that whole fight, you know? Fight against Trump. Resist. Yeah. Resist. You know, it's, Yeah.  

[00:19:51] Jamon Fries:

And, you know, what what really bothers me is their homeland security, and they're putting their own people into into danger.   You know? That is very true, actually. I mean That's very true. Especially, like, out in Colorado with the gangs and stuff like that that took over those apartment complexes.   You warn them that ICE is coming, and you could end up with a war on your hands. Oh, easily. Easily. Yeah. And there's no way that your people aren't gonna get hurt.  

[00:20:17] Jesse Fries:

True. True.  

[00:20:19] Jamon Fries:

So the fact that they didn't even care about that bothers me more than anything else.  

[00:20:26] Jesse Fries:

That's a good argument. I haven't heard that one.   Yeah. The   it's putting your own people, putting   the officers   Yeah. In danger and everything like that. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense. It really doesn't make sense. It is a dangerous situation.  

[00:20:43] Jamon Fries:

You know, I've I've, like, I've I've often heard of people,   getting warned when when ICE is showing up. Uh-huh. Yeah. I used to be an over the road truck driver. And one of one of the companies that I drove for, I was pulling swing I was pulling meat.   I was a meat hauler.   And it was very common for us to to pull into a to in to pull into a meat packing plant,   and   them tell us that the loads are gonna be delayed because ice is coming through   and to look for people that are illegal.   So half of the crew isn't there today.   And so, you know, I I don't mind people getting notified like that because it's not harming anyone.  



[00:21:25] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:21:27] Jamon Fries:

But when you're when you're dealing with criminal forces, because right now that they're go ICE is going after the criminal forces for the most part. When you're dealing with criminal forces that   are known to be violent   and you give them the heads up that the cops are coming,   they there's two possibilities. Either they're going to run away   or they're gonna set up a freaking ambush.   Yep.   Yep.   So yeah. There there's just that that's a line that just is way too far for me.  

[00:22:01] Jesse Fries:

No. I could see that. Yeah. Makes sense to me. It's it's not a good thing to do. You you need to No. Yep. Just   leave them alone. Just let them do their job, you know. Yep.   Let them run these people up. They're good. Well, that's four years. What are you gonna do? Anne Frank these people for four years? Yeah. It's like, okay. You might be able to hide a couple, but   yeah.   Yep.   We know how Anne Frank ended. I'm just saying. You know, it's it's a very sad story, but we know how it ended. You know? Yes. Yes. Indeed.  

[00:22:34] Jamon Fries:

Oh, I'm going to hell for that one.   And on the on the flip side of ICE   Uh-huh.   Read a story. There's a lot of people that are getting now getting arrested for impersonating ICE agents   and messing with the illegals.  

[00:22:52] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. There there was  

[00:22:56] Jamon Fries:

I I saw a video of one guy that that had he bought   bought a jacket that said ICE on it.   Went to went into a, he went into a shopping mall type area and, you know, people he he didn't say or do anything. He was just standing there.   And, you know, people started coming up coming up to him for confronting him. Are you ice? And he's like, no. I just bought this jacket online. Uh-huh. They're like, dude, you're an asshole.   But on the on the   unfun side of that is there was one guy   that was arrested   because he was,   going around with fake credentials.  

Uh-huh. And   he was   forcing  

[00:23:46] Jesse Fries:

women to sleep with him. Oh, wow. Yeah. No. That's not cool. That is not cool. Yeah. But but then, you know,   that   this happens all the time with the people first name, cops, any Yeah. Any   authority figure trying to get Absolutely. You know, which is with, you know, which is why the only reason it's news is because Trump has ice doing shit right now. Yeah. No. I bet people were doing this before Trump. So I guarantee they were. Yeah. Maybe this was even before Trump because, Trump, it's only been in there for about two months. So, you know, it's Well, I remember back in 02/2012,  

[00:24:23] Jamon Fries:

when I moved out to Colorado, I met some people that that were not here legally.   Mhmm. And   they were always in fear of anyone.   You know, if if somebody even remotely   gave the impression that they were law officers,   they would go into hiding.  

[00:24:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see it.  

[00:24:45] Jamon Fries:

So, you know, it it's it's just   this is not new. This is something that's been going on for a long time.   Mhmm.   People have been impersonating   police to take advantage of people. People have been impersonating federal federal bureaucracies   to take advantage of people.   I've heard of people in impersonating   IRS agents.   So there's absolutely nothing new about this, but   it's because it's ICE and it's Trump, it's now in the news.   Oh. And it's this big, huge, shocking thing as it's how it's brand new and has never happened before.  

[00:25:21] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Let's see.   Along the lines of, like, ice and whatnot, I can't remember. I've seen these TikToks.   This isn't the story. I I've seen this TikTok   where   a trucker is saying that either it's either Missouri or Arkansas.   They're arresting truckers who don't know English.   And you have to and he said he had to prove that he knew how to,   read and write,   English.  

[00:25:50] Jamon Fries:

I call bullshit.  

[00:25:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I I know it apparently   in Arkansas.   I'm not sure if they passed the law.   Let's see.   Well, there is a bill to ban noncitizens   from operating commercial vehicles,   which I don't know how that would work, really.  

[00:26:12] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, it it would   speaking from personal experience, it would really screw up a lot of shit. Well, not only that, you also have NAFTA or whatever the,  

[00:26:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   The replacement cord is because that allows their trucks to come over to us. Mhmm. So  

[00:26:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. We don't have Mexico trucks operating here in The US. We've got Canadian trucks operating in The US.   You know? And we sent quite a few trucks down into their countries. So if they were to if they if we were to start saying none of your drivers can come into our country,   they most likely would would reciprocate.  

[00:26:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It   it must be. And  

[00:26:53] Jamon Fries:

the the the train depots and the shipyards are already hell enough. Can you imagine?   You know? And and those are containers that you can stack up. How much territory would you need to have   to build a lot   where you were using real regular trailers that weren't containers?   Yep. Yep. Because they can't be stacked.   Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. So you'd have you'd you'd have you'd have   hundreds of thousands of trailers in one lot  

[00:27:23] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:27:24] Jamon Fries:

Just because   we weren't gonna let their drivers bring them up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. That would be stupid.  

[00:27:31] Jesse Fries:

I agree. I agree. It it was just this one TikTok I saw. It's just whatever's going on about it. You know? You never can believe those things.   And Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just did a quick, Google search,   and I didn't see anything. But maybe it's out there. Who knows? I don't know. You know? It's Yep.  

[00:27:49] Jamon Fries:

Well, it could be some overzealous,   you know,   DOT officer would wanted to  

[00:27:56] Jesse Fries:

wanted to make a point. You know? Yep. Yep. Completely. Completely. It could be that. It could be that.   Let's see here. What else do we got? Should we move on to, like, economic concerns?  

[00:28:09] Jamon Fries:

Sure.  

[00:28:10] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Let's go with tariffs because   that that's it.   That's what everybody's talking about. Oh,   Jesus Christ. This was,   it was a crazy, crazy day. What what what is the sequence I have? Because because it it's not   let's just start with Canada. Right? So just just to start off just to start off, Trump said   that he's not ruling out,   recession. You know? He he say there might be hard times with Yes. The tariffs and the re   redoing of our,   economy because he wants to bring back a lot of industrial   capacity and things like that into The United States. Right. Yep. Which is why there's a lot of these tariffs.   Oh, yeah. But when it comes to Canada, apparently, we really piss Canada off. They they they they are so pissed at us. They they're they're they're they're, like, taking whiskey off the shelves, like, they're seeing good whiskey.  

You know?   They probably still have some scotch that's decent, but, we all know Canadian whiskey sucks. Just say Crown Royal? Yeah. That is not good. That is not good.   Yes. I'm sorry if you're Canadian and you don't like that. But it's not really that good. I'm just saying, bourbon is much better in my book.   But anyways, so it's all these sorts of things. And then   where is that new store?   Okay. So we pissed them off, basically, because of the tariffs and everything like that. And Trump, he's doing this whole, like, okay. I'm gonna tariff you and then I'm not gonna tariff you.   There there there's these, 25% tariffs,   but then, there's a carve out for,   the NAFTA,   thing,   and and for car companies.  

Because if you think about car companies that go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,   that would really fuck them over because each time in the manufacturing   process.   Yeah.   There'd be tariffed.   Yep.   Coming both ways.  

[00:30:09] Jamon Fries:

Get tariffed by Canada, then by The US, then by Canada, then by The US, then by Canada. Uh-huh. Oh, god. No. Stop.  

[00:30:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Because it's, like, especially, like, with Detroit, it it's just right there next to Canada, and there's a lot of plants just on the other side of the border to to where there's all these trucks going back and forth with car parts, you know. So, yeah, that would be good at all. Yeah.   But, apparently, they're they're they really hate us, and,   they hate us calling them the fifty first state and everything like that. I find it funny. It's a joke.   You know? That's how I take it. I know they take it more seriously than that, but,   I think it's quite funny. You know?  

He's just trying to get all the tariffs out of the way. He just wants the tariffs gone, basically. Yeah.  

[00:30:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. If if they stop tariffing us, I'm sure that Trump would drop the concept of the tariffs on them as well. Well, yeah. Because it's it because it it's he's always said these are all reciprocal.  

[00:31:07] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Yeah.   You there?   I am here. Okay. You hear me? Yeah. Now I can. Now I can. Okay.  

[00:31:21] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:31:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. The reciprocal.   But, yeah, it's   because he looks like   yeah.   He put on tariffs. He takes them off, everything like that, back and forth, back and forth. Mhmm.   And so, like, on the sixth, he did new tariffs.   That this really pissed off I I don't know how Canada works. Okay.   Apparently,   premiers   over there, which are which is the equivalent of a governor.  

[00:31:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:31:52] Jesse Fries:

Premiers over there   can tax exports   and,   imports.   Really?   Yes. Because what happened is that Trump did these tariffs. Right? Mhmm.   And then the Ontario premier, Doug Ford   he has a crazy brother. He was, like, mayor of Toronto. He did, like, a druggie.   Yeah. Yeah. It's his brother. He he he's the premier of,   of Ontario.   And he actually   so Trump did those tariffs, then this guy put on a tariff on electricity   going from Ontario   to The US.  

[00:32:32] Jamon Fries:

That's not a tariff.  

[00:32:34] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. It's export tariff.   Yeah. It's a tax. He put in 25% tax, which is a tariff,   on electricity   because he's and this was even after Trump, like, rejiggered things.   He put this on, which pissed Trump off. Oh, Trump laid Wow. I can only imagine.  

[00:32:55] Jamon Fries:

Pissed.  

[00:32:56] Jesse Fries:

And so because of that, he raised the steel and aluminum tariffs to 50%.   Trump did.   Okay.   And there was this back and forth back and forth going. But   then, like, it was, like, today, I think.   Yeah. Today,   all that's gone.   Electricity tariff's gone.   Everything's gone.   The the the Doug Ford, he he did, like, a ex post that he's like,   oh, we talked to the commerce secretary and everything like that, and we're in deep discussions and everything like that. I'm thinking he got his ass reamed. I really think he did. It's  

[00:33:36] Jamon Fries:

It it it seems that way. Yeah. It   it nothing else would make sense as to why it would just suddenly go away like that.  

[00:33:44] Jesse Fries:

And and then the freaking I heard the freaking premier of, British Columbia   was saying   that   he might put on a tariff on all goods going from   Washington up to Alaska. You know where you can just drive through without tariff because you're just not stopping?   Right. Yeah. He wanted to tariff that crap.   Wow.   So it's like   in The United States, this would not be possible.   No. A state interfering   in international   diplomacy   is Yeah. That's a no go. You know? You can't you can't do this.  

[00:34:24] Jamon Fries:

No.  

[00:34:25] Jesse Fries:

But, apparently, they could do it over there.   Their premier's governors slash governors can just do this.   If I was a federal government, I'd be pissed. Yeah. Oh, yeah.  

[00:34:38] Jamon Fries:

I you've got is you've got what is the equivalent of a state   Yes.   Determining   international relations   Yeah. Bypassing the federal government.  

[00:34:51] Jesse Fries:

That doesn't seem right. I know. So I'm like, what is going what   because we have rules here. I don't I'm sure they have rules up there too, but it seems odd that,   premier   slash governor can do that sort of thing. Seems really odd.   Yeah. Yeah.   So   but, yeah, it just,   just went back and forth back and forth, and now it's just back to   whatever. You know?  

[00:35:18] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Well, you know, the the thing, the thing that just   really   I wouldn't say irritates me or frustrates me about this or anything. It more amuses me   is that   they get pissed that we're gonna put tariffs on them,   but they completely forget about the fact that   the tariffs we're putting on them are just   the exact same tariff that we've been paying to them   for a long time.  

[00:35:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. There's tariffs there. Some Canadians   are I I've heard argue going,   that's only if it reaches a certain   threshold, and you guys never reach the threshold,   so you actually don't get tariffed.   Oh, yeah. Bullshit.   Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You know? It's like  

[00:36:13] Jamon Fries:

yeah.   The the amount of the amount of goods that The US input that The US exports into Canada   is insanely high. Oh, yeah. It really is. It really is. All you have to do is live near any border crossing, and you know how many trucks are going through every day.  

[00:36:30] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. A lot.   A lot. There's a lot of them.   I've crossed that border a few times in my life. Yeah. There are a lot of trucks going through. Same here.  

[00:36:41] Jamon Fries:

I was one of those trucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:36:45] Jesse Fries:

That must be fun. What   is the process for that anyways to get across the road? Well, it's changed a lot ever since nine eleven.  

[00:36:53] Jamon Fries:

So I don't know what it I don't know exactly what it's like now. Back when I was driving, it was simply   you drive up there, you show you show them your bill of lading. If they didn't decide that they're going to inspect the vehicle, then you pull off to an area. You open up the trailer for them so they can look at the goods inside,   which happens maybe  

[00:37:12] Jesse Fries:

point 5% of the time. Okay. And hope they don't find the drugs that you're hiding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:37:19] Jamon Fries:

And   then   you just you show them your driver's license to prove that you were a a resident, that you were,   from The US. Uh-huh. And they're like, alright. Have a great day. Okay. Okay. It's changed a lot now. Yeah. You might need a passport card now, possibly, at least. So I I think now you need to have at least a real ID.   You might not need a passport card, but I think you need to have the real ID. To get into Canada, you don't.  

[00:37:47] Jesse Fries:

But to get into   The US, you do need a   passport.   Okay. Or at least, like, a passport card. Do you know what those are?   I've heard of them. I've never actually seen one, though. Okay. We have one because we used to live just right there. So we would use them across the border all the time. But, basically, what it is, it's just   it's good for land and sea based travel.   You can't fly in Okay. To anywhere Okay. But you can use it on,   like, Mexico, Canada, and The Caribbean   Okay. As long as you're by, like, vehicle or walking   or if it's by boat.  



[00:38:28] Jamon Fries:

Okay. So, like, if I if I were ever gonna go wanted to go on a cruise, I would need to get one of those?  

[00:38:35] Jesse Fries:

Or just a regular passport. Yeah.   Right. Yeah. Yeah.   Either way. So Yeah.  

[00:38:42] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, that's good to know. I'll probably never go on a cruise. But, yeah, that's good to know.  

[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. The wife I the wife really wants to go on a cruise. So I,   we're thinking maybe this Christmas, go on a cruise. I don't wanna be stuck on a fucking ship and get sick. I'm sorry. I just don't want to do it.   I really don't wanna do it. I there's nothing   always being around people all at the same time as well. You can't just get off. You're stuck on I there's nothing   attractive about a cruise to me.   There really isn't. Yeah. It's a   but yeah. Yeah. It's a   the wife wants to. So yeah. We're probably gonna go one of these days. Maybe this Christmas. Okay.   She's trying to save money though too. So which is weird. So  

[00:39:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:39:30] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Oh, speaking of, like, money and everything like that, to continue with that,   India,   has said that,   they're   willing   to try to come up, to   to cut their tariffs on us,   deeper cuts on that one,   to try to,   alleviate Trump and everything like that. So   That's cool. So there's that. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:39:56] Jamon Fries:

You know, eve even if the only result of the of this is that   other countries cut their tariffs on us Mhmm. It's still gonna improve the situation here in The US quite a bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:40:10] Jesse Fries:

I I figure so. I I I   well, let's see what happens. You know? It's Yeah. To me, it's it's like, why not? Let let let's let's try it out. I I don't mind trying. You know? There might be pain and everything like that, but I don't mind trying. Let's try and see what happens, see if it actually works. Yeah. You know, that it's like,  

[00:40:28] Jamon Fries:

if if what he wants to happen happens, which is that people that had gone overseas to, like, make cars and stuff like that come back to The US to avoid the tariffs. Uh-huh. It'll take a little while for them to build the plant or to buy the plant,   get it all fitted out to do what they want it to do. So, I mean, there there is gonna be some amount of time where where it's   definitely gonna be worse. Yep. Yep.   But   in the long run,   hopefully, it'll turn out to be a great thing.  

[00:41:03] Jesse Fries:

That's what I would hope. That is what I would hope. Yeah.  

[00:41:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Because if if we could bring more of those jobs back to The US, I think that would be   insanely good.  

[00:41:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I because it's, like,   not everybody's technical.   Yeah. Not everybody wants to be in the service industry.  

[00:41:23] Jamon Fries:

You know?  

[00:41:25] Jesse Fries:

And so yeah. Let some people work with their hands, and you can make really good money in The United States working with your hands. You know? So Oh, yeah. Yeah.   It's like being a plumber or electrician? Holy hell. They can make some money.  

[00:41:36] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, it it's   you get so many people that that go that go to college and get these degrees now.   Mhmm.   I don't   I can't count how many   truck drivers I met in the in the five years that I was driving   that had their doctorates.   Yep. Yep. But they couldn't find work in the field that they that they had studied in. Oh, yeah. A lot. Yeah. Well So, I mean, you know, just because you get these big fancy degrees doesn't mean that you're gonna   work in those big fancy areas.  

[00:42:10] Jesse Fries:

No. It really doesn't. And  

[00:42:12] Jamon Fries:

and and and so you're gonna take almost any job you can find. And so, you know, the more   the more jobs we have,  

[00:42:21] Jesse Fries:

the better selection people will have to choose from. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I was in grad school.   It it was like, a lot of the professors are going,   if you actually go to any of these, symposiums where historians are begging for jobs, it's just sad.   Just like all these PhDs just looking around, they're just sad people.   And Yep. They all feel lucky   just to get a university.   Like, any college   Yeah.   Town.   If you can get a division one, that's, like, awesome.   You you know, you you you won. Even if it's like a it's like one of my teachers, he went to Stanford.   Right?  

Got his PhD from Stanford. You know, that's a damn good school. Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He he was nothing against it, but he was teaching at Eastern Michigan University. You know? It is a it is a Yep. It is a division one, so he was happy. But Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't the U of M, which was just a couple miles down the road.  

[00:43:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know? Well, you you know,   even barring all that, you know, my my professor   at,   at Colorado Mountain College, CMC,   that's a freaking community college, and he was happy to have that job.  

[00:43:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yep.   It's crazy out there for,   for that sort of thing. It really is.   Let's see here. Sticking with   economy,   today, we just put tariffs or   we we we just put tariffs on Europe and everything like that on steel and whatnot. And so now they've   they've,   reciprocated   just this morning,   on tariffs on us   for various goods, secreting it up to a few billion dollars. So  

[00:44:12] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, Europe doesn't really import that much from us, though. We don't we don't send that much to Europe.  

[00:44:19] Jesse Fries:

Because they don't want our stuff.   Yeah. They do not want our stuff. They they just do not They don't let any of our cars go over there. Yep. Yep. I'd say probably at least half of our food can't go over there because of all of the regulations they have on what can be in food. Well, that or just the process. It's like Yeah. Like The UK, I remember a few years ago, it's like, oh my god. We can't take the chickens from The US because they use bleach in cleaning the birds.   Just just, just or chlorine. It was just a very   safe amount of this that just just the bacteria.  

You know? It's it's not gonna harm you in it anyway.   You know, they're like,   oh, no. We can't do it. Those damn  

[00:45:05] Jamon Fries:

bleached birds or something like that. Well, you you know, over there, they don't even clean the eggs before they before they sell them either. You know?  

[00:45:14] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. Right. But because they don't, they don't need to be refrigerated.  

[00:45:18] Jamon Fries:

Yes. That that is very And they don't have the refrigerator  

[00:45:21] Jesse Fries:

space that we have?  

[00:45:23] Jamon Fries:

No. No. They don't.  

[00:45:24] Jesse Fries:

So I I think that it it's kinda all cyclical. You know? It's like yeah. You can just leave them on the counter that way. If you wash them off, you can't leave them on the counter. Right.   So that's why we have to put our eggs in the fridge. In the fridge. Yeah. And, they don't. So   Yeah.  

[00:45:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Hopefully, the hopefully, we get some good chicken,   some good,   chicken flocks   grown up again for real quick because the eggs price eggs is getting insane.  

[00:45:59] Jesse Fries:

It is. It really I I heard the price is starting to come down, actually.   So Okay.   Yeah. But that's all too too. Hasn't haven't seen it here. I'm still paying $6 for a dozen. Okay. Okay. It's all because they killed off too many chickens. Oh, yeah. All of this. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:46:16] Jamon Fries:

And, you know, the with the bird flu, they had the the practice here is that if if one bird in the in the flock has the bird flu, you kill the entire flock. The hundred thousand other birds in that flock. Yeah. Instead of letting you see what happens. You know? It's like,  

[00:46:33] Jesse Fries:

and then they're, like, pumping up this, oh, avian flu. We're all gonna die.   Yeah. From pink eye. It gives us pink eye.   Seriously, that's all it does is it gives us pink eye.   So Yep. Who cares?  

[00:46:47] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. We have to we have to be worried about cows now because they found some cows that were infected with it. Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:46:56] Jesse Fries:

I can't remember what the, magazine it was or newspaper, but they they they they drew up this whole graphic   showing how   it goes from the bird to the cow   to the udder to the   to the teat to to the farmer's hand. The farmer wipes his   eye, and he has pink eye.  

[00:47:18] Jamon Fries:

Oh my god. No.  

[00:47:20] Jesse Fries:

I know. Oh my god.   And it was like a two page spread, dude.   I  

[00:47:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I'd I've you know, the problem is is that   the milk has to be processed now, and that processing kills it.   If if you cook the bird, you're not it it kills  

[00:47:44] Jesse Fries:

it. No. Actually, you can have raw milk.   There is you some states allow raw milk, but California does. Very few, though.   Actually, most of them do. It's just Really? Yeah. The the regulations are a lot higher on them.   Okay. And so they're actually cleaner   than regular   dairies, generally.  

[00:48:04] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Okay.  

[00:48:05] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Every so often you somebody gets sick. But, generally, it's not a big deal. So  

[00:48:12] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But I I'd say at least probably about 90% of the population   doesn't buy the the raw milk.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We go to the grocery store and buy the milk there. None of that's raw milk.  

[00:48:23] Jesse Fries:

No. It's ultra pressurized.   Yeah. To the point where it act it's actually shelf shelf stable if you actually need   it it doesn't need to be refrigerated,   technically. Really? Yeah. It's shelf stable.   Yeah.   How   milk when we were a kid never lasted three months. The expiration date was never three months.   Nowadays True. Yeah. Nowadays, especially, like, if you go with, like,   the boxed ones, not necessarily the   jugs, the clear tube. But if you just go with those half gallon cartons   yeah. A lot of those are it's, like, three months out.  

[00:49:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Most of mine are just a month out. But, yeah, milk wouldn't have lasted that long even before. No. Like, a week tops.  

[00:49:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:49:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. A week, it starts smelling funny. Two weeks, it starts getting chunky.  

[00:49:13] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Exactly. It's it's pretty fresh milk. You know? It's a bit pasteurized.   But,   no. It's ultra pasteurized nowadays,   to where it's shelf stable.   It's actually the same milk,   like, in Europe. That's the milk that they use in stores as well, which and it's all on the shelf. It's not in free refrigerator sections as well.   You might be able to find, like, one or two actual bottles in,   the refrigerated section, but most of it's just on the regular shelf. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. For pasteurized.   Yeah. Yeah.   Let's see here.  

Elsewheres,   looks like EU wants to   help support,   their auto industry.   Apparently, because Trump was saying you need to build here. So now they're trying to,   help fight that and everything like that.   But also   aiming to reach the bloc's ambitious climate targets.   So it all has to be an EV. And I think it's by, like, 2030 or something like this   quite soon that we have to actually go to completely   no   new vehicles that are   ICE internal combustion engine. So they all have to be EVs. So yeah. We'll see how that goes.   Mhmm.  



[00:50:39] Jamon Fries:

I know that's what we were aiming for here in The US not too long ago.  

[00:50:44] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. The 2030, that was, like, nobody was everybody was, like, no. That's not even   it's not feasible. Yeah. Not really. It isn't. No. You know, it's,  

[00:50:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the one thing that just   the one thing that everyone keeps forgetting   is that if you're going to completely replace the combustion engine,   you have to have the electric infrastructure   set up for it.   Yep. Yep. The way we are now with, you know, California talking about going all EV, and you can't even build a a combustion engine there anymore.   Right.   How many freaking brownouts and blackouts do they have almost on a daily basis? Do you really think that they can afford to  

[00:51:32] Jesse Fries:

to power those cars? Fix that. They they don't have that issue anymore. Oh, did they? Yeah. And, actually, what that was,   do you remember,   Enron?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, therefore, well, that's the type of system that,   they had out in   California  

[00:51:49] Jamon Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[00:51:50] Jesse Fries:

Which caused all of that problem.   Yeah.   So they stopped that.   So now they really don't   they except for, like, super hot days. It doesn't happen that often anymore, actually. They actually fixed the problem. Oh, okay. Okay.   And   but that same so they don't have that same system like Enron anymore. All those people came here to Texas,   and now we have. So,   yeah, I'm not I'm not, I don't like our electrical system. I think it's Okay. So it's  

[00:52:20] Jamon Fries:

Well, at least at least Texas isn't trying to make everyone go EV.  

[00:52:24] Jesse Fries:

No. No. But they did   pump a lot of money into,   renewable,   like windmills and, solar power and everything. Yeah. The windmills are starting to fail because   it's just not a good business, windmills.   Yep. Yep. And   everything has issues. But, yeah, it's like   yeah. It it it's gotten better. We haven't had the problem that we had back in '21, that freeze.   Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Everybody was out there. That one was pretty bad. That was really bad. Yeah. Yeah. So   they've,   fixed that up.   Part of that problem was also the gas lines. Gas lines lost pressure back in 2019.   Yeah. So you couldn't even get yeah. You couldn't even get into gas.  

Okay. And so,   like, just the   what? A month ago or something like that, we had to deep freeze.   And   just right over here,   the Atmos, the gas company, they had a truck there   with a generator   to   pump pressure into the system if need be.  

[00:53:36] Jamon Fries:

They were prepared for it.  

[00:53:38] Jesse Fries:

They were prepared for it. Yeah. Yep.   Probably helps that we're in a rich neighborhood, so that probably helps too. But Yeah. Yeah. It it might have something to do with that. Just might. Just might.   Let's see. Since we're we were talking a little bit about Europe,   Looks like they're really bumping up their   military spending.   Yeah. Yeah. I heard about that. To and also now they are allowed to go into deficit.   They're allowed to have a deficit now. Each individual Oh, wow.   If you were part of the euro system, you were not allowed to go into a deficit at all.   Yeah. But now because of this, you are able to go, like it's, like, one or 2% into deficit.  

Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. Because they really wanna   bump up,   their military spending because of us. They don't trust us. Blah blah blah.   It's about damn time they do it them damn selves. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. You know, it's,  

[00:54:43] Jamon Fries:

we we received their asses twice. We don't need to we shouldn't have to try it again.  

[00:54:48] Jesse Fries:

Well, we saved their asses from themselves.  

[00:54:51] Jamon Fries:

Yes. We did.  

[00:54:54] Jesse Fries:

It's like   I don't know.   Europe having military,   I don't know. They   were very, very war  

[00:55:05] Jamon Fries:

monger ish back Yeah. That that is true. The the downside to them building their militaries is we might have to go in and save their asses again  

[00:55:14] Jesse Fries:

Or stop them. You know?   Yeah.   Especially if you look yeah. Just all of them. You know? They all want war. They all want that war to continue. It makes no sense. It just Yeah. I know.   Yeah. Absolutely makes no sense at all.   But along that lines, do you have anything to add to that, or should we can we move on to Ukraine real quick?   I've got a couple things about The UK, but they're not about that. So we can Yeah. I got some I got some stuff about the The UK as well, but I figured that we could, just jump into Ukraine. It seemed kinda natural. Do that.   Okay. So   I think it was Wednesday   right after   our last podcast.  

Zelensky   said that he changed his mind again and no longer wants the mineral deal. That that was   that was that Wednesday. It was it was, like, for the fourth or fifth time. It was like, I want it. I don't want it. I want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. Yeah.   This guy. I swear to god.   I heard somewhere that The UK actually made a mineral deal, and that's why Trump is so pissed about the whole thing and wants to get another mineral deal in   place.   I don't know if that's real. I haven't read any stories, but it was on, the no agenda show they were talking about that. So it was, yeah. Yeah.   And then, let's see here. When was this?  

Then that same day,   it looks like pretty much Americans support Trump   overall when it comes to Ukraine.   Yeah. We're we're we're tired of it. Plain and simple. Oh, yeah. We don't want our money going over there.   Yep. So yeah.   It only makes sense to me. So   Mhmm.   And then   what else do I got? Because, yeah, I went, like, day by day here when I saw a news story. I would,   put it down.   Then Zelensky   said that he was gonna meet with US Officials,   this week.   This was last week, he said this. Yeah. And they did meet, and we'll get to that here shortly. Mhmm.   But in the meantime,   Trump got pissed. He got really pissed off at Zelensky and everything like that,   and he cut off,   all satellite imagery to the Ukraine.  



[00:57:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:57:43] Jesse Fries:

Which,   yeah, really fucked them over. It really fucked them over. Oh, yeah. Hardcore.  

[00:57:50] Jamon Fries:

They they were completely relying on that for their war for the war effort.  

[00:57:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Amongst other things. But, yeah, it it allowed Russia to actually take back a good portion of the Kirks or Kursk area that, Ukraine had invaded   in Russia. Okay.   Yeah. So the Russians were able to take a good swath of that back.   Nice. The Russians are going, yay.   Yep.   Let's see here.   Then,   then as, The US then this week, as The US and Ukraine were holding, talks in Saudi Arabia,   Ukraine did a massive drone attack against Russia. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I read about that. Yeah.  

[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:

Like, the biggest drone attack that they've ever done so far in the war. Yeah. But did it really do anything?   I I think that they spread them out too much in the the because   I mean, they sent them to, like,   seven or eight different major areas.   Uh-huh.   And Russia was able to deal with most of them. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, it didn't do anything. Okay.  

[00:59:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's it would have been more bigger news if it had done anything. Yes. Yeah.   And then, like, yesterday or the day before,   Marco Rubio, our secretary of state,   he was in talks with Ukraine   in Saudi Arabia.   And then   was it was this today?   Let's see. When was this?   No. It looks like yesterday,   Ukraine agreed to a peace,   to agreed to,  

[00:59:38] Jamon Fries:

ceasefire.  

[00:59:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep. Which allowed   Trump and everybody to give him back the   military aid Yep. And the satellite and everything like that. So Yeah.  

[00:59:50] Jamon Fries:

Now now now they're just waiting they were waiting for Putin to   to, accept the ceasefire.   I don't know if he has yet or not. I haven't seen anything yet on that.  

[01:00:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Yeah. I haven't actually seen anything. I I I saw things on social media, but none of them were verifiable.   Yeah.  

[01:00:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:00:13] Jesse Fries:

But yeah.   It's   and then from that, we can get into The UK. So so that's basically where we're at right now. So it's just this back and forth back and forth.   Mhmm.   Yeah. Cutting cutting them off and everything like that, it pissed everybody off in the world. Pissed off Europe and everything, but it seems to have gotten the job done. Just saying.  

[01:00:34] Jamon Fries:

You know, it it's one of those things. It's kind of kind of amazing how   almost everything that Trump does, it pisses you the fuck off,   but it works.  

[01:00:46] Jesse Fries:

I know. Right? It's like,   goddamn it. It's it's like, you go, fuck. Fuck. What do you do? What do you do? What do you do? And then you go,   then a few days later, you go,   okay. Not so bad.   Yep.   And so I I'm just getting used to going. I I I monitor the news, but then I don't   Yeah. Don't get emotionally involved in it until, like,  

[01:01:09] Jamon Fries:

until things have settled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like  

[01:01:13] Jesse Fries:

you you know, it's like all this stuff against Trump and everything like that. It's like,   okay. Yeah. He's doing all these things, but   he's working with the system. He's   he's fighting against the judicial system. He's fighting against the legislative.   He's doing all this. This is what you do. This is how the system works. You know? It's a it's a checks and balance system. One can go crazy and then the others will come back. Our democracy is say democracy is safe, guys. Just saying. Everybody   Absolutely. Yes. Our democracy is safe, you know, even though Canada thinks that we're not a democracy, apparently.   Because they they they were saying what what what are the ladies oh, she she wanted to become the prime minister. She didn't because that's a guy now. I can't remember what his name is now.  

Now. Oh, yeah. They have a new prime minister. So Oh, okay.   Yeah. Trudeau's gone.   So,   but, basically, the lady that wanted to be prime minister, she was like, we have partners, democratic partners around the world that we could fight against The US with. And I'm like, oh, and and she was saying, like, Japan.   I'm sorry. They're good. Those guys are gonna back us. Yeah. They're they're not gonna side with Canada against us. No. No. Australia might. You you know, I might. They might. Yes.   Yeah. Yeah. And I could see,   like, The UK probably. Yeah. You know? And then Europe, yeah, they just hate us. But I think I think that'd be about it. So I think we're fine. Yeah. So just saying.  

Yeah.   Japan. You know,   they like us. You know? They don't care about Yeah.   I haven't heard one bad word from Japan about all this. So Oh, no. No.  

[01:02:57] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely not.  

[01:02:58] Jesse Fries:

And Korea. We're we're we're keeping the North in at bay. So South Korea isn't gonna do anything. If it wasn't if it wasn't for us where if it wasn't for us being there,  

[01:03:08] Jamon Fries:

it might not be two Koreas anymore for for too long. Exactly.  

[01:03:12] Jesse Fries:

So yeah.   I find that funny.  

[01:03:16] Jamon Fries:

Especially, you know, since,   talking about Korea and their   war effort. Uh-huh. You remember the story that I told you about,   that how they had a they were finally got rid of their declining birth rates?   Right. Right.   Well, they found a way to fix that. Oh, that's good. That's good.   Yeah. They they found a way to to reverse it so that it is declining again.  

[01:03:42] Jesse Fries:

Perfect.  

[01:03:43] Jamon Fries:

They they were they were, the   the North the South Korean Air Force was doing some,   just   regular,   pilot maneuvers and stuff to,   just practice, essentially.   Uh-huh.   And they dropped eight bombs in the wrong places.   Oops.   I I didn't see any reports about anybody actually being killed, but there were quite a few injuries.   I they took out housing areas.  

[01:04:14] Jesse Fries:

Wow.   Wow. That is special. That's,   Yeah.   Yeah. Some heads are gonna go roll for that one.   That's Uh-huh.  

[01:04:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They they were they were   they were off their GPS mark by   by something like   at least a few miles.  

[01:04:34] Jesse Fries:

Jesus Christ.   Wow.   That is Yeah. That is really bad.   Uh-huh.   Oh, that's hilarious.   I had the story, but I think I actually did cover about non revocable citizenship,   where if you were, like, 18 or whatnot.  

[01:04:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I haven't heard anything about oh, yeah. Wait. No. Yes. I did hear about that. Yeah. Yeah. You talked about that last week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I okay.  

[01:05:01] Jesse Fries:

I thought I had, but I didn't know if I had or anything like that. So Yeah. I'll just get rid of that story. There is a lot. Okay. Let's see here.  

[01:05:10] Jamon Fries:

Okay. And how people were finding out that they had to go to Korea and serve.  

[01:05:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   Oops. If they didn't, they couldn't go visit?   Uh-huh.   Yeah. Obviously, sticking with international.   I got some UK stuff here.   I think, somewhere.  

[01:05:30] Jamon Fries:

Well, one of The UK stuff,   also dealing with Russia, so tying UK to to the Ukraine stuff Mhmm. Is   so I guess   you The UK froze a whole bunch of money that of Russia's in the middle of the weeks. Uh-huh.   And now they have given that to the Ukraine.  

[01:05:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I I saw that. And,   and I have another story here where,   like, somebody in Russian parliament is, like, going,   no. You owe us that.   Yeah.  

[01:06:13] Jamon Fries:

You can't generously   give away our money.  

[01:06:16] Jesse Fries:

You can't it it's actually against international law. Yes. It is. You can freeze money   Yeah. But you cannot give the money. And even they've been giving,   the interest away. We've been doing that. Even us, we've been giving Ukraine the interest   off of Really? Russian money. Yeah. Yeah. That we are freezing.   Even that is legally dubious.  

[01:06:38] Jamon Fries:

Oh, that's a good one. Legally I I would say that's more than legally dubious.   Yeah. You know, if if you wanna go if you wanna go to some point, just don't pay interest on it.  

[01:06:50] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. But  

[01:06:52] Jamon Fries:

any interest earned is Russian is Russia's money. So   giving that to a foreign power that they're currently at war with is,   yeah. What I'm saying?  

[01:07:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's a little bit, short bus special there. That's what I'm thinking. That is what I'm thinking. Yeah. So yeah. Putin ally   says, UK will have to return Russian money that London has illegally   gifted to Ukraine. Yep. Yep. It's just   it's what's gonna have to happen. I I don't see any other way. It's like 400,000,000,000,   3 hundred billion dollars or something like that. It's like Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[01:07:32] Jamon Fries:

It really puts a new light on how much money they've given to Ukraine.  

[01:07:38] Jesse Fries:

No. It's that's also, like I think part of that is also part of that money that Trump says that we gave to Ukraine because it's, like, the interest off Right. Money.   Yeah. But in the end,   when this comes to peace terms, Russia's gonna want that money back. I I'm just Oh, I guarantee it. Yeah. Yeah. Unless if we can somehow negotiate that away, it's still their money. They haven't agreed to not have it there.   Yeah. And it's international law, so I just don't yeah.  

[01:08:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   That is definitely some shady business. It really is some shady business.  

[01:08:11] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   Speaking of The UK,   apparently, there's a new sentencing   guidelines in The UK for crimes.   Okay. And these new sentencing   guidelines are to where if you're a minority   of any sort, you get a lesser sentence than if you're white.  

[01:08:34] Jamon Fries:

What the hell?  

[01:08:35] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep.   So   and and the the this is these are MPs. This is it's the new guidance. So yeah. So   and it it it could be quite a bit of a difference too.   So it it's   I I really don't know what is going on over there. I don't know   the parliament must hate their own people. Like like, it's Oh, yeah. These are white guys that are doing this to other white people. I I just don't I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.  

[01:09:09] Jamon Fries:

No.   And a lot of those people   aren't   citizens of London, of The UK   that are doing a lot of those crimes that are gonna get the lighter sentences.  

[01:09:24] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. Yeah.   But yeah. It's just  

[01:09:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It it just it makes absolutely no sense. But, you know, unfortunately,   I can't say it surprises me.   I mean, there there are there are   whole communities in The UK that essentially are under Sharia law now.  

[01:09:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they allow it to go on and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's   you know, you can   to me, it's fine if you use,   like, religious teachings,   to help mitigate, but they're not they can't be held up in any stretch of the matter. You you you Yeah. No. No. You know? No. If you wanna stay in the community, you may have to go by that ruling or something like that. Like like, if you wanna be a good Catholic and still have communion, you have to follow Catholic rules.   Yes.   You know? So I I understand that sort of thing. It it it makes sense in that, but, like, where it's its own system still and the courts bow down to it and everything like that? Well, the the biggest problem that I have with it is  

[01:10:28] Jamon Fries:

if you're a if you're a practicing Catholic, yes, you have to follow the Catholic rules.   But you also have to follow the rules of the country that you're in. Oh, completely. Yep. Yep. Whereas Sharia law replaces the rules that the that the country's in.  

[01:10:43] Jesse Fries:

Technically,   I don't think  

[01:10:46] Jamon Fries:

The UK It it doesn't technically   yeah. But   Yeah. I mean,   it it it also it may not technically allow it, but   stuff doesn't get   charged as much as it should.   Yep. You know, I mean, I've I've heard of you know, well, you know, there was the rape gangs that were out that were going that were thriving for a long time in The UK.  

[01:11:10] Jesse Fries:

They might still be. I'm not I haven't heard that they've been stopped. So  

[01:11:14] Jamon Fries:

There there's been some arrests, but, yeah, I haven't heard that it stopped.   There I've heard from time to time about the honor killings   where,   you know,   this   girl didn't follow the precepts of the religion, so they killed her, and they didn't go to jail for it.   That is replacing the current existing law with Sharia  

[01:11:37] Jesse Fries:

law. No. Yeah. Completely. Completely. Yeah. It's  

[01:11:40] Jamon Fries:

And any there there should be no country that stands for that. Uh-huh.   If you want to if you if your country decides that it wants to follow Sharia law,   you need to go into   the government and officially change the laws.  

[01:11:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But what do you expect from a country that   has made it illegal   to buy knives?   Yeah. That's true. You have to be 18 year old   to buy a knife, just in general.   If if you if you have, like, Amazon deliver one to you, you have to show your ID.  

[01:12:19] Jamon Fries:

Wow. Even like a chef knife?  

[01:12:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Damn. Because that's the knives that they're using because they outlawed every other weapon.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is also why they use acid over there all the freaking time.   Yeah. They throw acid on people. It's what gangs are gonna do and everything.  

[01:12:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. This is also the country where do you you remember us talking about,   how Apple had caved to them with, with the encryption,   you know, re reduce removing the encryption and everything? Yeah. Yeah.   Well, The UK very quietly went into their websites   and scrubbed the scrubbed everything they had about suggesting that to protect your identity and to protect yourself, you encrypt everything.   I bet they did. I bet they did. Yeah. They they went in and they wiped any any sign of that off of all of their off of all their websites.  

[01:13:20] Jesse Fries:

It's it's the funniest thing because, you know, something it's   yes. It can   stop the government from getting to you, but all these things are to stop   bad actors.  

[01:13:31] Jamon Fries:

Yes. To stop the criminals from getting yourself. Yeah.  

[01:13:35] Jesse Fries:

It's   it was all especially, like, the whole, like,   encryption and everything like that. That came from, like, especially, like, celebrities.   They would get hacked.   And then Oh, yeah. Like, all their, naked pictures that they took of themselves. I don't know why people take so many naked pictures of themselves. I really don't understand it. I don't know either. But yeah. If that's your thing, that's cool. To each your own.   I know. Right?   But so   but, yeah, that's really what led to this. It was to act against   criminals.  

Yes.   And the only way to get that criminal invasion.   And the only way to do that is to completely lock it down. It is the only way.   If you allow a backdoor in, there's a backdoor in. And then somebody And somebody's gonna find that way.  

[01:14:23] Jamon Fries:

Somebody with nefarious   things in mind is going to find out how to use it. Yep. Yep.  

[01:14:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Let's see. Also in The UK,   if there's not enough to make fun of them for,   apparently,   the RAF, the Royal Air Force over there,   they're running out of gun pilots.   So they're running out of pilots   because   of   there was a diversity drive   that would put, like, focus on diversity, DEI,   in the skies.   So he put Yep. So,   basically,   they're now having to go to these older white guys and go, guys, we can't do what we need to do.   We said we would help, but we can't help.   Can you come back for us, dear old white guys?   Please. We need some dear old white guys.  



[01:15:20] Jamon Fries:

We we we know you're retired, but,   yeah. We we really we really need you. Or we forced out you.  

[01:15:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:15:29] Jamon Fries:

But we really need you to come back now.  

[01:15:32] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. It it's it's crazy. It is   crazy. They could fulfill because you need to be   to fly, you it's skill. You need a lot of skill. And if you don't have enough of a base in the minorities,   you just have to allow   everybody, you know. It's,  

[01:15:52] Jamon Fries:

that's almost worse than Doge going in and firing people that we need.  

[01:15:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's actually about the same, just for different reasons. It's, like, for the opposite reason, but doing the same thing. You know? It's Yep.   It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.   But speaking of DEI,   I found this study. I found it kinda interesting.   Okay. The the study says that DEI   actually leads to discrimination   is how   well, right. Right. But it's it's actual study, you know, so, you know, it's this this is why I'm bringing it up. Yeah.   Because if you don't have a study, you can't prove it and everything like that. You know? Very true.   Are you sure? Are you I I think you're just making that up. You know? But,   no. It really leads to discrimination   because you have a in group, out group, and everything like that. Do you follow all the rules?  

It leads to,   let's see here.   It leads to authoritarianism   because people have this field that they can tell you what to say, what to do, and everything like that.   Yep.   If if you're any if you make a bad joke, you have to go into training. If you do this, you have to go into training. You have to have five trainings a year. You you you have to do all of this sorts of stuff.   Yeah. And, yeah, it just leads to,   like, intergroup hostility.   Mhmm.   It fosters a climate of fear and suspicion.   Oh, no. Yeah. Because you don't know who you can trust or anything like that. You make a bad joke, all of a sudden you're out on your ass   just because you made a like, my Anne Frank joke that wasn't a good one. Just saying, guys.  

But, you know,   but, you know, it it's   you can make a off joke and then all of a sudden,   you you you could be out of a job. I can't be out of a job here, thankfully, because of,   how we do this. Well, you're the boss. Yeah. I'm the boss. I'm the boss. And we have no advertisers. So it's just Yeah. There you go. Yep.   And then it yeah. Contributes to a rise of authoritarian   tendencies. It's just, there's   oppressors and everything like that. So, you know, press civil liberties,   dissenting views.   It's  

[01:18:17] Jamon Fries:

yep. So Yeah.   It's just bad all the way around for everything. It it it really is bad. And for everyone.  

[01:18:24] Jesse Fries:

And and this is why I'm so glad we are on a value for value model here at this podcast. So if you can help send us in send us some money or something like that, help us out in any way, please do that. You can send in your time, talent, or treasure.   Your time, if you just want to send us some ideas and things like that, that's cool about what we can talk about. If you know a good story that we haven't covered, please let us know.   Talent. If you have any talent out there, artistic or anything, musical, send us. Maybe we can use some of it for the show. We can   add it to the show, maybe make it better.  

And money is always helpful.   Money is always helpful. So just send it in, and any amount is good. A dollar, 3 hundred dollars, 5 hundred dollars, a million dollars. Then we could just retire, Jamie. Yeah. That'd be good. That would be nice.   Won't happen. But No. If it won't. Unless if they just wanna get stop the podcast, you know. If you hate the podcast, it wasn't stopped. That would be that would be one way for people to disagree with us to get us to stop doing it. Yeah. There you go. Perfect. Perfect. Say that again.  

[01:19:28] Jamon Fries:

Give us enough to retire off of, and, you know, we'll you'll never hear from us again. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:19:33] Jesse Fries:

I'm in my forties, though. So are you, Jamin. Right? You you you hit the 50 mark yet? Still, yeah. No. I I hit 50 in  

[01:19:41] Jamon Fries:

2020. Well, I hit mid I hit 50 in June. This year. Yeah. Yeah. June June June.  

[01:19:46] Jesse Fries:

Wait.   You're still forties. In your forties. Yep. So so we have a ways until retirement. So factor that into how much you would get us.   But you could donate to us,   through,   your new two point o podcast app.   It takes donations,   or you can also follow the PayPal   through,   through our show notes or on our website, mindlessmeanderings.com.   There is a link to go to, and it'll send you to the mindless sea.   But all that money will just come to me. That's from my other podcast I really don't use anymore. Maybe I should change it. We'll see. I PayPal's a bit confusing sometimes. Anyways,   help us out. That would be great.  



[01:20:34] Jamon Fries:

Does the mindless meanderings web website   actually work?  

[01:20:39] Jesse Fries:

It does for me, dude. I don't know what your issue is.  

[01:20:42] Jamon Fries:

I don't know. I just get not secure   HTTPS. Your connection is not private.  

[01:20:47] Jesse Fries:

It works for me, dude.   Let's see. Let me let me check Chrome.   It works for on Safari.  

[01:20:56] Jamon Fries:

I was on Brave, so it doesn't work on Brave.  

[01:21:03] Jesse Fries:

It works on, Chrome.  

[01:21:08] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Yep. It worked for me on Chrome. So it's just Brave. Yeah. So not my fault. Not my monkey.   So if you use Brave out there, you won't be able to go to our website. You'll need to use a different browser for that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is weird. Let me check my Brave browser. Maybe it's your settings too.   It could be my settings. I don't know. I I didn't change anything on the settings. So  

[01:21:34] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Mine   is meanderings.   Isn't this entertaining, folks?   It works for mine, dude. So Really? Yep.  

[01:21:48] Jamon Fries:

That is weird. Oh, well. Yep. Yep. Now we know. Back to the news.  

[01:21:54] Jesse Fries:

Back to the show.   Okay. What do we got here? What what what's, Well,  

[01:22:01] Jamon Fries:

let's go into science a little bit. We this looks like we've all we both found some good stuff about that. Yeah. Lead off. So   apparently,   all of the Viking shipwrecks well, no. Maybe not quite all of them, but a lot of the Viking shipwrecks that we found Uh-huh.   Weren't actually from the Vikings.  

[01:22:25] Jesse Fries:

What?  

[01:22:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   So   they they they've   dated them now to   about three to four hundred years after the Vikings were were sailing.   Wow.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:22:46] Jesse Fries:

So what do Viking ships look like then?  

[01:22:50] Jamon Fries:

They believe that they still look the same because there's a few there's a couple that they found that that weren't dated from later.   Okay.   But   at least 60 to 70% of the shit of the vike of the quote unquote Viking ships that they found have now been,   they've had to change   the date on when they were when they would have been built   Okay. Okay. To after the Viking era. So,   yeah, no idea who the ships belong to. I mean, it it probably was was probably still it very well could have still been the Vikings   or their descendants that that built them and were were going around in them, but it was not during the Viking raids and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Okay. So probably still get Scandinavian.   Just Yeah. Most likely. The because they're they're they're built in much the same way as the other ones that they can definitively prove are Viking.  

Okay. Okay. So they're probably still Scandinavian,   just not quite Viking ships like they had thought.  

[01:23:52] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.   Interesting.   Mhmm. So yeah.   That's kinda cool. Yeah. Yeah.   Maybe our ancestors   built some of those. You never know. It's very possible. You never know. We do have some Viking blood in us.  

[01:24:07] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Indeed.   And speaking of Vikings, you know, they all they're massive explorers.  

[01:24:14] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:24:16] Jamon Fries:

Last night,   NASA, through SpaceX,   launched a couple of new satellites that are very interesting.   How so?   One of them, called SPHEREx,   is designed   to   it's gonna give it's supposed to give the   best data   from scanning the the universe   Okay.   Even so far as they can use it to find   where water is on the moon so that so that we know where to send the astronauts to.   It can they're they're they plan to you they they think that they'll be able to figure out, like,   the second after the big bang,   they'll be able to see what what what what what happened. And they're they also you know, they're they're planning on use utilizing this to find,   they they think they'll be able to find more hospitable planets out there with this because they'll able they'll be able to actually figure   out the what the atmosphere in some of the planets very, very far away is.  

They'll be able to see if there's water there or not, and stuff like that. So   that one's pretty cool.   Piggybacked on that, though, is another was another set of four   that's programmed that's doing another a different job, and what it's doing is it's looking at the sun.   It's gonna be studying the sun massively. What they hope to do with this   is to be able to,   you know, how we have, like, all of the, solar flares and stuff like that that affect Earth? Yeah.   Well, what the goal is with this with with this set of four   is to   track everything so you can predict it like you do the weather.  

Oh, okay. You can predict how strong the influence is gonna be, you can predict, you know, you can somewhat even pre predict when things are gonna happen because they're gonna be looking at the actual surface of the sun   versus just   trying to see catch the waves as they come out. Oh, okay. Okay.   So   two pretty big things for for for exploring more about the world. Oh, yeah. That's pretty universe. So yeah.  

[01:26:37] Jesse Fries:

Cool. Cool.   Let's see here.   So I I I found something cool. Apparently, they've made light solid.   They've been able to make light solid.   Right? Isn't that kinda cool? It's called a super solid.   It can only be done on the quantum scale.   Okay. So so you won't have, like, a big block   of Right. Yeah.   Of light or anything like that. But, yeah, it is quite an interesting thing. Apparently,   they they like, a few years ago, they were able to   make it a liquid.   Okay.   But they've been able to make it a solid, a super solid for the first time.   And   what a super solid is,   it's different than   what we consider a solid, generally.  

They're entities that only exist only in the quantum world.   And up to now,   they've been made using atoms.   So   with this, they show that they have, like, zero viscosity,   and they're formed in a crystal like structure. It's basically how it's like a salt crystal Okay. Sort of thing.   But, apparently, they've been able to do it with light by,   like,   heavy   the they fired a laser into   a piece of some sort of material,   gallium arsenide or whatever that is   Okay. That has been shaped with special ridges,   you know,   like a Ruffles potato chip or something. Right. I'm just making that bit of Yeah. Yeah. But   just just ridges of substance. A comparison.  

No. No. Not at all. I I just wanted to say ruffles have ridges. You know? That's all I wanted.  

[01:28:31] Jamon Fries:

It is fun to say that. It is. Right?  

[01:28:34] Jesse Fries:

And then, basically, the light gets stuck in the ridges is how it works.   Okay.   So   that that's how you could actually form   a super solid from light itself.  

[01:28:48] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, that   puts us one step closer   to the,   to the Star Trek force field.  

[01:28:58] Jesse Fries:

Possibly. Possibly.   I have no Because, I mean, turning  

[01:29:03] Jamon Fries:

turning something that shouldn't be solid into a solid is what that's doing.  

[01:29:08] Jesse Fries:

Possibly. I I really don't know how that works. But yeah. That's a Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Just   I never even thought who would even think, oh,   I wanna make light a solid.   I wanna freeze light.  

[01:29:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I know that.   To me, the the only thing that   I could only I could own the only imagination   my my imagination is so limited that I could only think that somebody was like,   let's try this.   Oh, shit. That was weird. Let's see if we can do it again.  

[01:29:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Maybe that's how it it happened when they made it a fluid.   But but then they go, oh, if we can make it a fluid,   we can make it a solid.   You know? Yep.  

[01:29:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's very cool. Yeah.   Yeah. And on the on a   kind of funny science note Uh-huh. There was a study came out, swapping butter with plant based oils in the day in your daily diet could lead to significant health benefits.   So it's saying don't don't eat butter instead eat plant oils.  

[01:30:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's been out there for a little while. People have been saying it.  

[01:30:23] Jamon Fries:

The the problem with that is   Mhmm. In this study   they didn't differentiate between margarine and butter.   If you used margarine they said you were using butter.  

[01:30:37] Jesse Fries:

Margarine margarine you mean? Yes. Oh, okay.  

[01:30:41] Jamon Fries:

So margarine is a seed plant based oil. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a solid oil. And they're saying that it that that it they didn't they didn't they didn't put it into the proper category.   They put it into the category of butter and it said, see, it's better to olive oil and and all these other plant based oils are better than better for you than this   highly processed   seed oil.   What do you know? We've known that for a long time.  

[01:31:09] Jesse Fries:

That is hilarious. What? That makes no sense.  

[01:31:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. If you don't differentiate between margarine and butter,   you can't say that that's the result of the study.  

[01:31:24] Jesse Fries:

Because it's not. And then they said plant based oils, but it also doesn't take into consider  

[01:31:30] Jamon Fries:

okay. It doesn't it doesn't separate out the seed based oils   because those are plant based as well. You know, I I would imagine if generally, like, if we're talking olive oil, avocado oil Yeah. Stuff like that, coconut oil, definitely plant oils, definitely better than butter.   But   every other plant oil is much worse than butter. It it to to be These are all highly processed. Yeah. I heard it was the processing that was the problem. Yeah. It is. Yeah. So  

[01:32:01] Jesse Fries:

at least that's what they say. I don't know. I don't know. Well, the the  

[01:32:05] Jamon Fries:

it it's the processing that makes it go bad, but at the same time, you can't get the oil without doing all that processing. No. I know. I know. Therefore, just the oil itself is bad.  

[01:32:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   And and canola oil actually comes from the rape plant. Come on. Yes. Rape plant. It it it just doesn't   I'm sorry. It's just wrong on so many levels. Yeah. Rapeseed. Woo hoo. I want some rape seed. Yeah. No. No. I I I think I'm good.   Yeah. Okay. Good. You know, we in this house, we usually use olive oil and butter. That's what we use. We have a little bit of,   like, canola oil just for, like,   deep frying, like, plantains and whatnot. Mhmm.   But we don't fry many things, actually, like deep fry or anything like that. So Yeah. So  

[01:32:54] Jamon Fries:

yeah. I I use   one of,   well, one of five different oils. Uh-huh. The five different oils, and I've got all of them in the house right now,   is avocado oil,   olive oil,   or wait no. Shit. I ran out of olive oil. I'll have to buy some new with new stuff.   Coconut oil  

[01:33:13] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:33:15] Jamon Fries:

Butter, and lard.   Okay.   Those are those are the only fats that I use in anything.  

[01:33:21] Jesse Fries:

Where do you buy lard?  

[01:33:23] Jamon Fries:

I just said grocery store. Really?   Interesting. Okay. Comes comes in a box the same size as   as butter is in. It's just, it's wrapped in a it's wrapped in a wax paper   and just sitting in one big chunk. So it's not, like, slice it's not broken into  

[01:33:42] Jesse Fries:

pieces or anything like that. Right. Right. I may have to check that out, see if I see I've never cooked with it, so I wonder  

[01:33:49] Jamon Fries:

what it would be. Oh, yeah. The the flavor from lard is   to me, it to me, it it's one of the best flavors for depending on what you're cooking. Right. Right. You know, if you want the butter and salt if you want the saltiness in the butter from salted butter,   like in eggs and stuff like that, then I I prefer that. But if I'm cooking anything else, like if I'm cooking vegetables or something like that or especially,   flour products. Uh-huh. If you're gonna be frying something that's that has a that has a, batter on it Okay. Do it with lard, and it'll taste a lot better.  

[01:34:25] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Good to know. Good to know. Yeah.  

[01:34:29] Jamon Fries:

Speaking of speaking of fats Uh-huh.   I guess that there are a lot of restaurants now that are going away from seed oils as what they're what they fry with.   Steak and shake is switched to beef tallow.  

[01:34:44] Jesse Fries:

Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. But it   yeah. Why not? You know, just go with something basic and processed. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   Get rid of the trans fat, you know, then you don't have to deal with that either. You know? It's, you know, fat, you know? And it's a yeah. There've been   there's been a lot of people talking about how just natural fats are good for you. You know? It's Oh, yeah.   Yeah. And and I think it what was it? Like the margarine lobby or something like that? The gut, everybody to turn against the butter and everything like that. Eel. Cholesterol and everything. So   yeah. No. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool.  



[01:35:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Then the last the last, study that I've came across was,   asking   why are young adults less happy than ever before?   And the answer is just because they have cell phones and can get too much information   that over blows their minds.  

[01:35:46] Jesse Fries:

Well, it over blows everybody's mind. You know? It's it's you you you see it   all the time. You you know? Yeah. It's like   when people go off on Facebook and things like that, you know, with   just with hate and everything like that, not just  

[01:36:04] Jamon Fries:

discussing what's going on and everything. Yeah. When all when all you see every day is filled with hate is hatred and vitriol   Yeah.  

[01:36:13] Jesse Fries:

You're not gonna be a happy person. No. You you are not. You are not. You know, it's like, I've come to the   conclusion in life that you take information. If it upsets you at first, sit on it. Just   just wait. Let your brain process it. See if it's actually a big deal.   Yep. You know, then you go from there. You know? It's like   I I I've also   come to the conclusion that instead of,   like, saying anything,   like, quickly, like, like, somebody comes at you with a attack or something like that, you know, like, an argument.   I I I've started just to stay quiet, and then once I figured out the best way to reply, which could be a day or two Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll reply at that point in time. Otherwise, it can just lead to too many problems.  



[01:37:01] Jamon Fries:

You know? Well, yeah. Well because because your first your first gut reaction   is going to be   not not so much a response to what they're saying   Mhmm. But a response to the tone that they have when they're saying it. Yep. Yep. Yep.   And so if you can hold back on that very first gut reaction to respond that you get,   you can sit back and you can think about what they're actually saying and decide if it actually makes any sense to you or not. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:37:32] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. You know? Yep. It is it's like everything in the news, you know. It's like,   like that protester that was arrested, you know. Yeah. At first, you go, yay. Because, well,   yeah.   But but then when you really think about it and research a little bit, you go, well,   it seems like he wasn't doing anything wrong. He wasn't arrested for anything. So   yeah. Let him go. You know, that sort of thing. You don't have to like it, but   the government's not on the job   of going against that sort of thing, in my book, at least. You know? So it's Yeah.   Yeah. Completely completely.  



[01:38:10] Jamon Fries:

Stretch over into the tech world, I have a couple of interesting things. Yeah.   So it looks like   Apple   is possibly finally going to have a foldable phone.  

[01:38:24] Jesse Fries:

Well, that's interesting.  

[01:38:26] Jamon Fries:

They're   one they are the only if they are one of, if not the only, carrier   or brand manufacturer   that does not currently have a foldable phone. Right.   But the they're,   there's a news report out that says that they very well could that they may have one out by the end of twenty twenty six.  

[01:38:47] Jesse Fries:

That'd be kinda cool, I guess.   They're those things are weird. I've played with them. They are. Yes. They're just I because it's a continuous   screen, and so it's   yeah.   Yeah.   It's I I I really don't know what to do with it. Interesting  

[01:39:04] Jamon Fries:

technology.  

[01:39:05] Jesse Fries:

It is. It is. But yeah. They they probably charge you a few thousand dollars for that, though. You know? So it's a Oh, most likely. Yeah. The the $1,000 or 1,100 is bad enough.  

[01:39:18] Jamon Fries:

And then the other tech related is,   something that I have hoped and dreamed and wished that they would do.   Uh-huh.   You know, I   every computer I've ever every PC I've ever owned, I built. Uh-huh.   But you can never build your own laptop.  

[01:39:38] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[01:39:40] Jamon Fries:

Well,   Intel   has had the   moment of,   well, why don't we bring the modularity   of PC   into laptops   as well?   Makes sense. And so they're they're, so they're trying to make it so that   designers,   come up with a with a modular format,   with with a standard format that you so you can build your own laptop.  

[01:40:10] Jesse Fries:

That'd be pretty cool. That would be pretty cool.  

[01:40:13] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I'd be insanely happy with that.   Because I mean, there there's so many times you look at you can look at a laptop and you're like, alright. I need this one thing for you to be able to do. Yep. Yep. But in order to be able to do that one high end thing,   you have to buy everything else high end.   Uh-huh. Which means that you're spending 5 to $6,000  

[01:40:34] Jesse Fries:

for a laptop. So Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:40:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Whereas, if I just need a very good monitor, but I don't need that good of a of a of a PC and of itself.   Uh-huh. I can build   a budget a budget PC for a budget   computer   Right. And put a damn good monitor on it. Oh, yeah. Just makes sense to be able to do that. It really does. It actually does.  

[01:40:59] Jesse Fries:

That's kinda nice. That's kinda nice.   Oh, let's see. I have a couple stories to end with here. I think we've gone on long enough.  

[01:41:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I think so. Pretty much covered everything.  

[01:41:10] Jesse Fries:

Apparently,   Rosie O'Donnell left the country and is not coming back for at least four years. So   it's such a shame. Right? Yeah. Damn. She's coming back?   Well, maybe. I don't know. It's,  

[01:41:24] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Well, you know Probably if Vance For at least four years, if Vance wins, it'll be eight years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or other another mega. You never know. We just we just need to make sure that it becomes permanent.  

[01:41:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she she she went to her homeland, Ireland, so O'Donnell. So she's,   pretty Irish, I would   bet from that name.   Yeah. But yeah. So, yeah, she went back to   she she looks angry in the picture.   Really angry. Who's that person? She.   I know. You know? It's like these people. I swear. They they Yeah. This is this goes back to the not happy thing that we were talking about. You know? Just just  

[01:42:06] Jamon Fries:

it's okay people. Just, but but then again your phones off, ignore ignore the news for a few days,  

[01:42:13] Jesse Fries:

and you'll start being happy again. I know. Right? If you find yourself concentrating too much on something,   get rid of it for a bit. Yeah. You you you know, it's, I I you can get addicted to all these things, you know, constantly check it because it's like, sometimes I start constantly checking the the downloads on of this   podcast.   Yeah. Like I've done that a few times too. Yeah. Yeah. It it is, like, but then I go, no. Just stop. You you it doesn't matter.   You know? It's a yeah. So yeah. It's,  

[01:42:44] Jamon Fries:

just just And and don't worry, Jesse. I will let you know if we ever get over a hundred.  

[01:42:50] Jesse Fries:

In what episode? Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. Sounds good.   Okay. To end this off,   apparently, some people are thinking you you know, everybody wants to see bugs. Right?   Mhmm. There's this whole push   to have us eat bugs.   Yeah.   So they've also found that there's this one cockroach   that   produces   a liquid,   that has all essential amino acids, fats, and sugars   to where it would replace cow's milk.   So, basically, they want us   to drink,   they call it milk, but it it's not really milk because it's a insect.   So   so it's some sort of,   bug extract   of, or liquid byproduct liquid.  

Yeah.   How gross is that?  

[01:43:47] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Hell no.  

[01:43:51] Jesse Fries:

That's all I can say to that. But it's better for you, Jaiman, than milk.   Oh,   bullshit.  

[01:43:59] Jamon Fries:

You know, technically,   as adults, we really aren't supposed to even be drinking milk.  

[01:44:09] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. But   I I saw this thing where it said that,   everybody can actually drink milk, even the lactose intolerant.   What you have to do though is go on, like, a two week   only milk diet.   Yeah. Or a cheese byproduct. Any any sort of milk product. To get your body used to it. Yep. And then you can then you can process milk again. So all the people that have bad stomachs from milk  

[01:44:37] Jamon Fries:

suffer for a couple weeks. Give it some time, and you'll be able to enjoy everything that we can enjoy. Yeah. Exactly.  

[01:44:44] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. I'm just gonna put all the Parmesan cheese you want to onto your spaghetti. Uh-huh. I'm just glad that I married a woman from Africa who is part of the contingent where they actually   are lactose tolerant.   So Yeah. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. A a lot of Africa isn't. So   at least I picked the right country.   Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   Well, that is it for the show today.   Thank you for joining us for episode number 28 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast.   I'm Jesse Fries, and I'm Jamin Fries.   And you guys have a great week.