Well, here we go again.
Hosted by:
- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:20) Introductions and housing dilemma: buy vs. rent
(00:01:08) Property tax reforms and homestead exemptions debate
(00:07:24) Stability of mortgages vs. rising rents; FHA and land hurdles
(00:09:18) Kicking off the news rundown
(00:09:24) Trade deals: Malaysia, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam; China meeting
(00:10:58) Venezuela tensions and alleged CIA mercenaries
(00:13:47) Free speech, visas, and deportations over extremist ties
(00:23:46) Federal shutdown politics and union pressure
(00:29:07) White House East Wing renovation symbolism debate
(00:31:42) Fed rate cuts outlook and tariffs impact on inflation
(00:33:03) USS Nimitz incidents: jet and helicopter lost; fuel concerns
(00:34:59) UC Berkeley course on race, immigration, and cultural clashes
(00:39:28) Afghanistan-Pakistan border flare-ups
(00:43:52) Hungary's Orban vs. the EU
(00:47:47) Housekeeping: value-for-value note to listeners
(00:47:51) Major Gmail breach
(00:49:37) TikTok sale framework: Oracle, governance, and data security
(00:51:08) Musk headlines: trillion-dollar Tesla pay package debate
(00:55:13) PSA: X two-factor auth migration off twitter.com
(00:57:13) Studies on light exposure, circadian rhythm, and heart risk
(00:59:37) Campus surveys on gender identity shifts post-lockdown
(01:03:03) UK push to remove nitrates from processed meats; bacon debate
(01:06:22) Apple Wallet IDs, digital keys, and the keyless car era
(01:10:20) Wrap-up and sign-off
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Jesse Fries:
Good afternoon, everybody. It is Monday, October 27, and we are live with episode 74 of the Minus Meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries. And, yeah, I got nothing today. Just nothing.
[00:00:37] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries, and I am currently trying to decide whether I want to buy or rent next.
[00:00:47] Jesse Fries:
Makes sense. Makes sense. Both have their positives and both have their negatives. So it's
[00:00:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It I I think I think what it'll all boils down to for me is that there there is one thing that could cause me to want to buy instead of to rent. Mhmm. And that is Florida, amongst other states including Illinois, Kansas, Montana, Pennsylvania, and Texas, are currently trying to pass legislation and or constitutional amendments to drastically reduce or reduce or completely get rid of property taxes.
[00:01:36] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I haven't heard of anything really I haven't heard of anything in Texas on that one, but I'm sure there's somebody trying to do something on that. But yeah. But then, you you know, that's fine and dandy, but, you know, they're gonna get their pound of flesh out of you one way or the other. So
[00:01:56] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. And and, you know, I I kinda like the way that, Florida is is talking about it. One of the the way that DeSantis is really behind is that it would eliminate it would only eliminate property taxes on your homestead.
[00:02:14] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:02:15] Jamon Fries:
Which means that if you own multiple properties, you're gonna have to pay taxes property taxes on those additional properties Oh, yeah. Just not on just not on the home that you live in, which Yeah. I mean, it it he's what essentially, what he's trying to do is he's trying to drive out in a way the property managers Right. That just go and buy every single freaking house out there for a lot of money. You mean BlackRock? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then they just rent those houses to people, you know. Yep. It's trying to make it so that it's more cost to fit that that it's much more costly to do that. So I I I could I would even get behind, you know, a slight property in property tax raises on second and third and fourth and fifth homes and stuff like that.
I could see that. Completely eliminating the property taxes on your primary residence. Yeah. I I wonder
[00:03:15] Jesse Fries:
I wonder how it affects, like, school districts because, generally, school districts raise their money off of, property taxes. Yeah. So would it just be at the state level or would it be at the what level would it be? Because county, that's how county gets most of their taxes as well.
[00:03:33] Jamon Fries:
If the So if the property there is no is there as far as I know, there is no state property tax anywhere. Yeah. I Yeah. No. Property taxes are paid to the local. That Right. And but in Florida, what they're trying to do is get the constitutional amendment that just makes it illegal to have property taxes on your primary residence. So No. I understand. But still that's that's a huge chunk. It is a huge chunk. One of the reasons that they're doing that is because they've found that they have way they're they're bringing in way too much money.
[00:04:14] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:04:15] Jamon Fries:
They they can't spend all the money that they're bringing in. Here in the state of Kansas, we have a billion dollars excess Yeah. That comes in from property taxes and stuff like that. Well, it's like here in Texas, they reduced,
[00:04:35] Jesse Fries:
the property tax is what they did in that case. Yeah. To me to me, that's the way it is because the reason why it's pulling in so much right now is houses are overvalued. Oh, yeah. Big time. And so because of that, they are you they're reaping the they're reaping in all these great, amounts of, property taxes, but it's not necessarily that. It's just that the houses are overpriced. Yeah. Because of places like BlackRock and crap like that. So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's like I I could see in Florida, the I could see where you would think that that would work, but I think it'd work for, like, a year or two.
And then people would start buying houses again instead of renting, and then there goes all your profits. You know? The so it could be The yeah. I mean, that that will eventually happen, but at the same time,
[00:05:29] Jamon Fries:
I would rather pay a higher sales tax than have to pay property taxes.
[00:05:35] Jesse Fries:
It it not me. Not me. No. Yeah. Yeah. That that's
[00:05:40] Jamon Fries:
that's just my personal opinion because, I mean, you know, I mean, I spend, like, $131,400 dollars a month, and that's all I spent. So Well, you well, yeah. You're mostly yours. For low in for low income Right. Right. A slight raise in in income tax is or in, not income tax, but in sales tax is not going to be a disastrous effect. Well, right. Right. But for those of us that For people with more money, I mean, it's absolutely gonna gonna cost them a whole lot more money. Yeah. Yeah. So But, you know and so I I think and for me, anything that we do that drives property ownership versus renting is Mhmm. A good thing. Because there there's just something about owning your own place. No. Yeah. That is so much better than renting. No. Completely. It it it is better.
[00:06:40] Jesse Fries:
I it's I I'm not, saying it's not or anything like that because it is. Of course. But, Right. Yeah. It's it's even better for your kids and everything like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Kids that grow up in a house where their parents own the house generally do better than those that grow up in the renting situation.
[00:07:00] Jamon Fries:
Well, that's because a lot of you know, when you're the the problem that I have with renting and and I know that this isn't isn't a one-sided thing because, you know, there's mortgages and stuff like that too. But it's more predominant in renting in that you're, you know, at least when you have a mortgage, you know that this is how much you're going to be paying. No. Completely. Completely. With with rent, you know, in in the eight years that I've lived in lived where I live, my lot rent has gone from $370 to $577.
[00:07:38] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Oh, yeah. You know? So every every year, I'm I'm spending more money on rent. Yeah. So if you could buy it like a plot Yeah. Then you would just be golden after some time because then No. Absolutely. Would would And everything that they just Social Security raises would just be money in your pocket instead of Yeah. Just going straight to the landlord. Exactly. Yes.
[00:08:04] Jamon Fries:
Which is which is why which is what I'm looking at right now. I'm trying to decide whether I rent whether whether to start renting somewhere because I've gotta move out of the trailer. We found out that I can't get an FHA loan for the trailer Okay. To buy the trailer. And that's because I don't land own the land it's sitting on.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
Got it. Got
[00:08:26] Jamon Fries:
it. So I have to either buy land and move this trailer onto it or buy another trailer and move it onto it. And then I'll be then I would be able to get an FHA loan for it. But until the but so I've gotta look for land, and I've gotta look for a trailer to buy. It's it's so annoying.
[00:08:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. And any sort of land close enough to a town because you probably want, like, to be able to get your crap delivered. Yeah. I need at least my grocery speed delivered right now. You have to be somewhat close to town at least then. Yep. You can't be too far away from the town. So yeah. Good luck to you. Good luck to you.
[00:09:08] Jamon Fries:
I'll figure it all out. Yeah. Yeah. Always do until you die. Yep. And then you haven't. You know? See, that's how it works. Absolutely. Yeah. That's how it works.
[00:09:16] Jesse Fries:
Looks
[00:09:18] Jamon Fries:
uh-huh. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna jump into stuff. So Yeah. I I was just yeah, I had nothing else to say really. Okey dokey.
[00:09:26] Jesse Fries:
Looks like Trump, has gotten some more trade deal wins, with Malaysia, and, Cambodia.
[00:09:35] Jamon Fries:
So Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. And he's
[00:09:39] Jesse Fries:
about to meet with, Xi Jinping. So Mhmm. Let's see if we can get something going with the Chinese. That's always a tougher one. Oh, yeah. Okay. So it's, but, yeah, it seems to be and progress is also going well with Thailand and Vietnam. So Okay. More trade deals along the way. So yeah. All good on that front. You know? That's what I like to see. Absolutely. And then, apparently, it looks like we may have, like, a quasi Bay of Pigs situation going on in Venezuela right now. Is that surprising, though? No. No. No. Apparently well, this is Venezuela says that they have captured, some CIA operatives. Basically, it was mercenaries. It was a mercenary group, that was, probably working for the CIA. Mhmm.
At least that's what they say. So I you never know how these things go if it's real, if it's not, you know, but it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. No. No. It wouldn't. I'm not really sure why Trump has this bug up his butt about Venezuela, but, you know, I really don't.
[00:10:58] Jamon Fries:
But, I have no idea.
[00:11:02] Jesse Fries:
Drugs, but then is it drugs? Yeah. I I really don't know exactly what's going on with that. Something seems odd.
[00:11:08] Jamon Fries:
At least on the surface, he's saying it's drugs, but yeah. I mean, it's on the surface, he's saying it's the cartels and the drugs and stuff like that that reached out of Venezuela. But I I don't know. I mean, he he seems to he he's only looking at Venezuela. He's not looking at anywhere else that has the cartels and the drugs and stuff. Well, no. Him
[00:11:38] Jesse Fries:
Colombia as well. Because some of the stuff is he's really going after Colombia as well. So Oh, is he? Okay. Yeah. Sanctions and whatnot. So, yeah, it's Colombian president almost hinted at that, he wants Trump taken out and so and so forth. So yeah. Yeah. It it it Okay. Okay. Yeah. It it's not Yes. It's about the cartels and the drugs. Yeah. Good possibility. Good possibility about it. Yeah. Because the cartels run pretty much everything down in those two countries.
[00:12:12] Jamon Fries:
I it could also it you know, if if you take it far enough, cartels are the main route of illegals coming into The United States. Right. Right. They're also a huge factor in human trade. Mhmm. Human trafficking. So
[00:12:36] Jesse Fries:
No. Yeah. It has something to do with that. Yeah. I saw one story where they detained a cartel guy who was trafficking a baby across the border. Yeah. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. That's the type of people we want in this in this country. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. So there's that there's that CIA, good old CIA shenanigans.
[00:13:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I'd I'd I'm almost more shocked if I if some I I'm almost more disbelieving if somebody says there is no CIA in that country operating, trying to, you know, make things make things different. That's that's not something we would do. Yeah. That's bullshit.
[00:13:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But, you know, they're in our sphere of influence. So we can actually do whatever we want there. To to at least that's what we think. So Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure other countries are so saying no. But, you know, it's like Of
[00:13:35] Jamon Fries:
course. Yes. Yes. Yep. It only matters what we think. After all, we have the biggest guns. Of course. Of course. Yeah. For now. For now. Yes. And on on local fronts in, in c the Seattle mayor is trying to trying to fund some, social welfare welfare stuff in the city. Mhmm. And he's calling he's he's been he's saying now that Microsoft and Amazon have a moral obligation to give back to the city.
[00:14:20] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Sure.
[00:14:25] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Bullshit. If I live if I live and operate in the city, I'm paying my taxes there. I'm employing the the people there so that they can pay their taxes.
[00:14:41] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:14:42] Jamon Fries:
We No. I understand. Yeah. The corporate taxes on Microsoft and and Amazon alone are would be more than enough to fund at least two major cities probably.
[00:14:56] Jesse Fries:
Probably so. Probably so. I I don't know what kind of deals because they they might have deals with these people. Yeah. These companies, they must have been given something. Anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To get them to get them to stay there or Exactly. They may they may have done that. But, you know, that's not on the company. That's on this that's on the city. No. I I I I'm with you on that one. But, yeah. It's, you never know with them. But, yeah, it's you know, there there there's Bill Gates, I think, himself would agree with that statement, but Oh, yeah. He does he's no longer Microsoft, and he's giving away his fortune or trying to, not really able to.
You know, it it it's like Carnegie. He did the same thing, Andrew Carnegie. He Yeah. Made a fortune. And then, apparently, he he just gave it away. And, apparently, he couldn't give it away fast enough because he forgot about one very important thing. What's that? Interest. Oh, yeah.
[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:
So try to think of Interest on those amounts is pretty nasty.
[00:16:00] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, he he did I I I heard his podcast. It was just, history on, Carnegie and everything like that. It's like he was a robber baron. He was a asshole Yeah. And everything like that. But in his later life, he decided to help everybody Okay. And give away his fortune, just like, like Bill Gates and everything like that. And so he he he like, public libraries. He would build public libraries, like, all over The United States. Yeah. But the only stipulation was that you had to pay for the books. He wasn't gonna pay for the books, but he'd give you a building for it, you know, but so on and so forth. So, you know, it's yeah. It's so some, yeah, some uber wealthy believe that.
Not all did. Like, the Rockefeller shirt didn't believe that. Oh, yeah. No. So, yeah, it's yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It's,
[00:16:55] Jamon Fries:
I I is Seattle that bad off, though? Is that's the question. What what what do they want? Well, see, the the problem is is that Seattle has such a stand back attitude. I mean, the article didn't really go into exactly what they were wanting to do. It just said that they had a lot of that they had a lot of, a lot of programs that that they wanted to do. Yeah. It it's a, the what they're they're trying to fund a social housing in Seattle.
[00:17:35] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:17:36] Jamon Fries:
So in other words, they wanna build houses for the homeless so that they can just live in them.
[00:17:45] Jesse Fries:
Well, then they wouldn't be homeless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that is very true. You know, it's like
[00:17:53] Jamon Fries:
But, you know, I mean, there's a large percentage of homeless people. It they're not. They're they're homeless by choice.
[00:18:02] Jesse Fries:
A lot of them. Yep. Yep. Yeah. The men, at least.
[00:18:06] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. Mhmm. Now, you know, I I would fully be behind, like, doing something like that. But in order to do that, you have to have excess money. You have to have a lot of leftover money Right. That can't go to something better. But yeah. It it's
[00:18:27] Jesse Fries:
so basically, they wanna build a whole bunch of houses and stuff like that, and they want Microsoft and Amazon to pay for it. Interesting. Okay. How about you just do it yourself? You know, that's that's true. Yeah. Yeah. That's, raise the taxes like normal. Come on. This is what you do. Raise the taxes.
[00:18:45] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That was that was what one side wants to do. The other side is, like, you can't just keep raising taxes like this.
[00:18:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, you can if you're Yeah. Like New York City, you know. Mom Donnie will probably raise taxes like nobody's business. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's,
[00:19:03] Jamon Fries:
Well, no. And, you know, the the voters Seattle voters approved a measure creating a publicly funded social housing developer Mhmm. Financed by a 5% tax on salaries above $1,000,000.
[00:19:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay.
[00:19:22] Jamon Fries:
So if you make more than a million dollars, people that are poor decided that you have to pay 5% more taxes.
[00:19:32] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Is that gonna actually help the poor? Probably not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Probably go to build some other building or something like that. Get some more bureaucrats going. You know? It's a Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Uh-huh. Let's see here. Looks like, we revoked the visa of, the guy Sami Hamdi. He's a British commentator.
[00:19:57] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:19:59] Jesse Fries:
He he he's a Muslim commentator. He has links to Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood. And he truly celebrated, October 7 when it happened. So
[00:20:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I I'd say it's a pretty good reason to, revoke his his
[00:20:18] Jesse Fries:
ability to be here. Yeah. Yeah. It was just a speaking visa sort of thing, like, a tourist visa sort of situation, but he was giving speeches and whatnot. So it was for work and everything like that. So yeah. It it they kicked him out. They let him in, and then they kicked him out. I don't know why why why they just didn't stop him to begin with, you know? Yeah. But I have no idea. You you know, it's like free speech, whatnot. But, yeah, it's, I like free speech, but when it comes to celebrating death, I I I'm just I don't like that sort of thing. You know? It's, it's not a good thing to do, celebrating death, rape, pillage. Yeah.
[00:21:03] Jamon Fries:
That that's the one place where I would consider allowing that kind of speech to have consequences. But I I there there's problems with that too, of course, because Yeah. You can. Yeah. Free speech.
[00:21:27] Jesse Fries:
And once you go down that route, it's a never ending route. And so you just can't do it. It's just Yeah. You may not agree with it, but, you know, fine. But if you're gonna come to a country Oh, yeah. The country can tell you no. If you're gonna come to a country and you're gonna be talking like that, then you should expect that the country isn't gonna welcome you there. Well yeah. Or just anything against them. You know, it was like Candace Owens. You know? Australia said, yeah. You're not coming here. Just saying. Uh-huh. So not that you blame them with Candace Owens. That's what? Yeah. You know?
She's got crackers right now. But yeah. You know? It's, yeah. It it it it's a slippery slope, but, you're a visitor here. I don't think visitors can I I think the federal government can have a right to say that to visitors? That that's what I Well, you know, it it's one of the it to me, it's one of those things where
[00:22:23] Jamon Fries:
I firmly believe that the rights that we have as citizens of The United States
[00:22:31] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:22:32] Jamon Fries:
Many of them now not all of them, of course. We do have to extend some of those rights out to others. But many of those rights, I think, should be reserved for citizens or people, you know, citizens of The United States, which means that you have a freedom of speech, but we don't may not want you in the country anymore. No. Yeah. Yeah. We we can't arrest you for what you say. Yeah. But we can sure as hell kick you out. No. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine with that. Much like any of the other stuff. You know? It it it you're coming here to take advantage of the rights that we as citizens have. And if you abuse those rights, then
[00:23:14] Jesse Fries:
we should have every right to say, you know what? You're not here anymore. No. No. It it's like when, like, Canadians say it would come down and protest Trump and, well Yeah. Our border patrol, if you actually told them what you're doing here, go, oh, we're going to protest. There we go. No. You're not. Turn right back around. That's what they said because you coming into protest to cause any sort of disruption, it's not good for any state, for any Exactly. Government. So yeah. No. Out. Out. Yep. Mhmm.
[00:23:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So and then, this the, shutdown.
[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:23:53] Jamon Fries:
Twenty seventh day, I think it is now or something like that. Yeah. Something like that. I don't know. We'll hit a full month sometime this week is what I is what they said. Mhmm. But now, the largest Federal Workers Union is really getting on Democrats trying to get them to end this thing early. Really? Really? Yeah. They they've come out and, you know, the headline, of course, doesn't say that that's what they're saying because, well, it's on NBC News. It just says largest federal workers union calls for an end to to the shutdown putting pressure on Democrats. Mhmm. But, yeah, basically, they're like, so you're telling us that three people are saying we can't get paid, and that's what's stopping us from being paid. Yeah. It's like six people or something like that. It's just a few Democrats.
Gotcha. They only need three. The the Oh, yeah. There are there's, one independent and two Democrats that are that have that voted for it now. Oh, okay. Okay. So he's getting closer. Fetterman, another one, and the end of and the the, senator from Maine. Right. Well, Fetterman was always there. So Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So they only need three more Democrats to cross the line or independents, you know. Bernie Sanders could do it. Just saying. Mhmm. He's independent,
[00:25:17] Jesse Fries:
You know? He could do it. Actually, this is five more. Yeah. Five more needed. Oh, is it five more needed? Yeah. Five more needed. Yep. Okay.
[00:25:26] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Okay. So five people are preventing millions of people from getting paid.
[00:25:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At least a million. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So the the troops were paid, thankfully, out of whose ever pocket that was. Apparently, he has a private army now.
[00:25:48] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The they they play there was two different ways that they got the money for that. One was, of course, the private donation that was good. Uh-huh. The other one is they took money that was allocated in other parts of the military
[00:26:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:26:08] Jamon Fries:
That were set to be that were not up for the discretionary budget Got it. Got it. And they used that to pay the troops. Oh. Some people are now saying that they should also do that with food stamps. Mhmm. But they can't because the the only money available that could go towards food stamps, that's part of the food bit that's part of the food program
[00:26:34] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:26:35] Jamon Fries:
Is school lunches. And so they would have to they would have to take the money out of school lunches to to continue SNAP.
[00:26:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:26:46] Jamon Fries:
Okay. Well And that's that's across that that's something, you know okay. So you're gonna take food from the kids so that you can give food to the kids.
[00:26:58] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Sounds about right. Sounds
[00:27:00] Jamon Fries:
about right. Yeah. So so they've decided not to do that. They're just gonna let SNAP go to go the route of, you know, not having funding and not nobody receiving SNAP. Well, it it's not that nobody's gonna receive SNAP benefits Uh-huh. Because they put money into they gave they give money to the states. Right. And then the states control how that money is is appropriated out. There so what that means is that some states, for now, will still have still have some money in savings Mhmm. That they can allocate towards food stamps, whereas other states just spend everything as it comes in. Right. And so they won't be able to to extend food stamps. So it's gonna be a state by state thing as to whether people get re still receive food stamps or not.
[00:27:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Everything it it there towards the beginning, Schumer was saying that, every day gets better for the Democrats, but I think it's actually starting to turn. Oh, yeah. It it it wasn't really hurting Trump or the Republicans at all, throughout this whole thing. And but a lot of people said, oh, the yeah. The Republicans should negotiate and everything like that. But the longer it gets on now, I think it's I think it started the tide is shifting. I think it's just like, well Mhmm. You guys are the ones holding this up just to pay. You know? I I so it's the Democrats that are doing this. It's not anybody else. You know? It's it's yeah. No. It's like you're going along and then, somebody throws a rock and goes, oh, well, we should negotiate me throwing rocks at you, you know?
It's kinda like yeah. How does that really work? You know? It's, yep.
[00:28:46] Jamon Fries:
I'm gonna keep throwing rocks until you give me something. And Yeah. Yeah. We need we should negotiate so you get you you know, maybe I'll accept less, but you're still gonna give us something. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:28:58] Jesse Fries:
I I I really think things are shifting. I I don't seem as much negative about Trump when it comes to this. But then this whole east wing thing.
[00:29:08] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's been
[00:29:11] Jesse Fries:
it's hilarious. I swear to God why they seem to care so much about the East Wing. You know? It's I just don't get it. You know?
[00:29:19] Jamon Fries:
No. Because it's Trump.
[00:29:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, right. Right. But, you know, it's just the East Wing. You know? It was Yeah. Yeah. Basically built in, what, '42 or something like that when they were trying to Yep. Cover up the bunker during World War two. And that was about it. Beyond that, there there was, like, a coat closet that became a movie theater. Okay. Okay. That that that because it was the entryway there for a bit. Just a small little shutout was what it was in nineteen o two and with a big coat closet. And so they just turned that into the movie theater, the coat closet. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And so that that that's all it is. You know? And then the first lady, they had their things there and everything like that. But, yeah, it wasn't really that big of a deal. And he's building a freaking ballroom.
You know? So, yeah, I don't see an issue. I really don't. But they're they're still harping on it. You know? They're still harping on it. So Of course.
[00:30:19] Jamon Fries:
I I I love the I I love their statements of, you know, this is symbolic of what he's doing to The United States. He's actually he's actually taking a a a, what are they called? The big huge wrecking ball. He's Uh-huh. Taking a wrecking ball to the White House. He's doing the same thing to the country.
[00:30:45] Jesse Fries:
Actually, it's actually is a good argument. You you could actually It is. Yes. Yeah. Be because you could say, you know, he's tearing what needs to be torn down in order to build Yeah. A better future. I look at it, I'm like, yes. He is tearing apart your institutions.
[00:31:03] Jamon Fries:
Yes. He is destroying quite a bit of shit that didn't really need to be there in the first place. Yeah. Superfluous
[00:31:11] Jesse Fries:
things that actually don't matter. Yeah. He is getting rid of and tearing down and trying to build back. Yeah. Make America great again. You know? I was gonna say build back better, but that that's like a Biden's thing. So Yeah. Seemed wrong to say that for some reason.
[00:31:29] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes.
[00:31:32] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. So it's yeah. It's a good argument. I I I I'm for that I'm for that argument. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. 100%
[00:31:40] Jamon Fries:
myself as well. Mhmm. Yeah. The, Fed is currently poised to cut interest rates again this week. Okay. And most likely again in December and potentially again in January.
[00:31:58] Jesse Fries:
Okay. We will see. We will see. Yeah. Let's see what that does do. Housing prices and mortgage rates. Because it really hasn't dipped too much from what I could tell. Right.
[00:32:08] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it's just been a very minuscule cut. I mean, it wasn't like a massive cutter. No. Yeah. Interest rate cut or anything like that, the last one. But now according to according to the article that that I read on that, they were saying that, they're not seeing as large of an inflation spike as they were expecting due to tariffs. Right. Right. And so they've they've kind of they they've kind of started to accept that maybe tariffs aren't going to drive inflation like they thought. Did did they start thinking this back in, like, June?
[00:32:45] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And now they're going, well, we're still thinking. It's brand new, you know, but we're thinking that Yeah. It's not gonna do anything. Yep. Yeah. It's it's funny. It is funny. It really is. Yeah. Let's see here. Apparently, the Navy, the USS Nimitz, they lost two aircraft in thirty minutes.
[00:33:11] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I've read about that. A helicopter and a jet.
[00:33:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, it may just be bad fuel. So the Nimitz is returning back to base. Okay. Probably gonna dump all the fuel and everything like that and then, get new stuff. But yeah. So Trump's like, oh, don't think anything nefarious. Don't read into this people. So that means we should read into it. Right? You know? Absolutely. Yes. 100%.
[00:33:42] Jamon Fries:
If if the president tells you not that there's nothing to look at, it means that there's usually something to look at. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:33:50] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[00:33:54] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Definitely. But, yeah. I read an article. UC Berkeley, you know. Mhmm. Very, very, very liberal university. Well, right. They have started a new class, a a new a new set of classes
[00:34:20] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:34:22] Jamon Fries:
That is questioning why America puts so much influence on being white because they're immigration. Okay. Okay. It's an anti ice class Well, yeah. Basically. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. They're they're they're they're researching into how the, how Asians and Hispanics are considered aliens in The United in The United States. Asians? Yes.
[00:35:01] Jesse Fries:
Well, maybe Indians. See, this is the term where you say Asians. And when you say Asians, I think, like Southeast Asians, like Chinese,
[00:35:11] Jamon Fries:
Southeast, Japanese, Vietnam, Japan, Korea, you know, stuff like that. I don't I don't think India. India No. I don't. I know it's part of Asia, but it is but also The Middle East. Yeah. That's Asia as well. Yeah. Exactly. So to say Asian is just
[00:35:32] Jesse Fries:
is too broad of a category. We we there's many different races in there or at least different ethnic groups, you know, different people that look differently, you know. So it's like Absolutely. We we to me, that's it. I'm trying to picture in my mind's eye because I like to picture things in my mind's eye. Oh, yeah. When you say something. So when you say Asian, I say, I I just automatically go Southeast Asian sort of thing in my head, and I don't lump Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis in I don't I don't lump those in with that at all. So Yeah. No. Not at all. Southeast Asians, you know, I think we accept them because they are Yeah.
They're very rules based, their societies, just like ours.
[00:36:17] Jamon Fries:
And so They're they're they're very rules based. They're very, they're very family oriented. They're they they have a lot more in similar they have a lot more similarities to us. They respect law. They respect all these things, you know. It's not they're not coming over here for, like, a religious purpose or anything like that trying to Right. Well and and the even the the for me, the bigger aspect is that they respect our laws instead of trying to adopt theirs. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah. Yeah. It's,
[00:36:52] Jesse Fries:
they they don't poop in the streets, you know, or on the beach or things like that. You know? I just, like Yeah. Just small little things that
[00:36:59] Jamon Fries:
unless you're in San Francisco, those are generally frowned upon things to do.
[00:37:06] Jesse Fries:
That's probably mostly white homeless doing that. I'm just I I know that. I know.
[00:37:13] Jamon Fries:
That's that's a common sight in San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So so the Indians would feel at home there. Yeah.
[00:37:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's
[00:37:26] Jamon Fries:
A racist would say. That that's something that I I I love on the, Gutfeld show. Uh-huh. Is anytime he anytime Gutfeld's Gutfeld's Says something kind of funny. Uh-huh. Yeah. If he's if he's making comedy and it's about and it's about women or Right. Other things. It's a a feminist would say, a racist would say. Yeah. That's funny. That that that's a good way to coach it. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:38:04] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. It's there's always differences between people and everything like that, and you can just look at them because you see differences and everything like that. But, you know, as long as yes. Some people just hate for the sake of hate, but, you know, just it's the cultural differences to me that can mean the most. Yes. Absolutely. When laws aren't obeyed, things like that, you know. Yeah.
[00:38:29] Jamon Fries:
So Yeah. Yeah. When you when you have a group that that is used to an entirely different set of laws Oh, yeah. Yeah. That tries to convince people that their laws are superior and their laws should be followed.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That's where we run into issues. No. Completely. Come obey our laws, our system. Yeah. And then slowly come out and we can add some of yours. Our laws. Exactly. And maybe slowly, we might be able to add some of yours into our system. Who knows? As long as they're decent laws. Well, no. That's how it always is. Yeah. But, you know, every group comes in. We they meld and, you know, things change a little bit and everything like that, which is fine with me.
[00:39:13] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It it it's it's it's fine if it's in the process of the natural growth of a of a community.
[00:39:20] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:39:21] Jamon Fries:
It's when it's one one group that tries to force it on others, that's where big problems happen.
[00:39:28] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So speaking of Indians, what is, this, no. Don't don't don't don't kill me, Indians. You don't know what's going on with this Afghanistan Pakistan thing.
[00:39:39] Jamon Fries:
How's that speaking of Indians? Come on, man. That's Pakistan borders Pakistan borders India. It used to be part of India. Used to be part of India. Yeah. Okay. We'll get there. Yeah. I I guess the Pakistani people have been fighting against, I I guess there's a a resurgence of, like, Al Qaeda and other groups like that in Afghanistan going on right now. Uh-huh. And they've been crossing over into Pakistan and doing shit there. I got it. Got it. And so Pakistan has been fighting them on the border, of course. Uh-huh. But they've also made incursions into Afghanistan because they're saying, well, if Afghanistan's not gonna do anything about them and keep them from coming into Pakistan, we're gonna have to go and just, you know, get rid of them. Right.
And so that's that's sparked off some battles and stuff like that between the Afghanistan military and the then the pallet then the Pakistani military. So Alright. Yeah. They're they're they're currently they've currently got a ceasefire going on. But, you know, I mean, part of the problem is is that when you've got a country that's doesn't have a definitive military uniform Mhmm. It's really hard to know who it is that's attacking.
[00:41:13] Jesse Fries:
I could see that. If Afghanistan,
[00:41:16] Jamon Fries:
you know, they don't have a military uniform per se. Mhmm. They yes. They all wear black and they would you know, they're everyone that's part of the of, of the group, they wear black and they they they usually wear combat vests and stuff like that as well. But that's not a military unit. That's not a military uniform because anybody can wear black. Anybody can wear one of those vests on. Mhmm. And not even all of their soldiers wears wears black or those vests. Right. Sometimes they dress in normal clothes. So when you have a mil so when a country has a military that doesn't have a set uniform, where everyone knows this is who they are, How does Pakistan know that it's not actually Afghani military people coming across the border to do shit? No. Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense.
So, you know, I mean, that's
[00:42:16] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Yeah. No. There's a reason for uniform code law codes of international conflicts and things like that. There's reasons for these things. They're treated differently. If they're not in uniform, that means they're a spy, which means I can kill them on-site. Yep. If they're uniform and they're captured, then, well, you have to, basically, you could take you could hold them and everything like that, but there's certain rules that you have to follow. They become prisoners of wars and Yeah. Yeah. Apply. Yeah. But another re the the biggest reason for those military
[00:42:46] Jamon Fries:
for those military uniform codes that seems to get ignored by many is that the reason that a that a country's military should wear a uniform is so that they're not ever confused with civilians. If you've got military personnel with no uniform amongst civilians
[00:43:08] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:43:11] Jamon Fries:
I hate to say it, but in some way, those civilians become open targets as well. Well, no. It's like Hamas. Hamas has no sorts of things. So if somebody dies,
[00:43:22] Jesse Fries:
how do you know they're part of Hamas or they're a civilian? Yeah. You you you can't necessarily even base it on whether or not they have a gun next to them or anything like that. Yeah. No. It's just Yeah. How how can you actually base it on anything? You know? You kill them. You could throw the gun. You know? Explosion. They'll throw the gun. You know? It's like Yep. This is just what it is. So, yeah, you you you need to have those situations. Otherwise, they're just terrorists. That's all it is. Exactly. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Let's see here. Looks like, Orban, the Hungarian, prime minister, he's he's really good after, the EU. He's calling them, the Soviet oppressors.
[00:44:08] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:44:12] Jesse Fries:
And he says that they will remain island of peace and migrant free. Nice. So, yeah, he says the pro war countries have been formed, have already formed a coalition of the willing. They are willing to send others to die. You you know, it's he even said that Brussels, let's see, That Brussels blocked, the president's peace mission, in Ukraine and so on and so forth. So, you know, it's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's they must not like him. I'm surprised Hungary is still part of the EU. It's kinda funny that it is. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:56] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's it's one of those countries that doesn't really fit into the it it doesn't fit with the way EU is.
[00:45:08] Jesse Fries:
No. It really isn't. Yep. Yep. Apparently, there's a huge, like, 200 or so 100,000 people, marching, And, apparently, not a single EU flag could be seen, amongst the against the the the whatever, the demonstration. Yeah. It was just all Hungarian flags. That's all it was. So Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I I really think the EU is useless. It's worthless. I I think it's a failed system.
[00:45:43] Jamon Fries:
Oh, big time. Yeah. Big time. Well, you know, it it the only way that you could ever make the EU work is if every other if every member country had to give its up the aspect of it being a separate country.
[00:45:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Exactly. Because you have to get everybody to agree. Could work. Yeah. You you have to have unanimity for some of these decisions. Yeah. Like, all 27 state. This would be, like, if the senate if it had to be unanimous
[00:46:16] Jamon Fries:
every time had to have a 100 votes to pass anything.
[00:46:20] Jesse Fries:
It's like a filibuster is bad enough, but unanimity. Yeah. Hoy. Exactly. How can you get anything done? You you know, it's it's just you you you'll have to throw so much crap into these bills, into these laws just to make everybody go, okay. Well, I get something out of this then and everything like that. Yeah. It's like, I no. It's all pathetic. It is, truly, truly. Is. Yeah. Here at the minus man and roots, we are a value for value system. So that means if you get any value out of this podcast, you can help us defray the cost of the podcast, the server time, and everything like that. We'll take a dollar. We'll take a penny. We'll take $2. Anything you think this was worth to you, just send us. Let us know that you like us. Maybe you don't. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe that's why we don't get any.
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So Oh. Yeah. A hun 183,000,000 passwords were stolen. Damn. But I'm sure that, those have already been stolen and many other
[00:48:04] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I highly doubt that there's any new passwords in there. I I checked my, Gmail account.
[00:48:14] Jesse Fries:
I I checked to see how many data breaches it was. It was, like, 15 data breaches it's been part of. This time, I actually changed the password, so I'm gonna try to have to remember a new password. Okay. Okay. Because I like to have a a odd sequence that's not based off anything, just random characters and everything like that. So Yeah. And then I memorize it. And so I can use that for yeah. Yeah. And the and then I could use it for a while. But, yeah. So I'm gonna try that. Let's see if that holds. Yeah. I I let my computer computer do my memorizing for me. Yeah. I like to have one that I can actually do so I can Yeah. Use that to get into the other. So
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Makes sense. Mhmm. Makes sense. Yeah. For me, I don't really care that that much about it. No. I understand. I understand. I I have I have very weak passwords for my email and stuff like that because, well, 90% of what I get is junk and the other 10% comes from mom. Just little things that she
[00:49:19] Jesse Fries:
ran across that she wants to send me. Yeah. Yeah. No. We all get those here. We don't. Yeah. I know.
[00:49:26] Jamon Fries:
But I mean, yeah. So I mean, it's not like there's anything truly important in my email. So Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take a look at it. I understand. I don't care if you can access it. Yep. And, talking about Internet stuff What? Trump and z, Trump and, and Trump and z. Xi. Sorry. Sorry. Xi have, have reached what they what many people consider to be a consensus
[00:49:58] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:49:59] Jamon Fries:
On TikTok on the TikTok sale.
[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:50:04] Jamon Fries:
And they're supposed to sign off on that deal on Thursday. So we'll see if everything holds up on that. Yeah. That'd be good. That would be good. Yeah. It looks like, Oracle will be taking over, and then there's gonna be a bunch of other people on the board that that'll control that will be what will be there for the security of TikTok and stuff like that. Yeah. And then
[00:50:28] Jesse Fries:
ByteDance wouldn't get a huge chunk of the profits off of it. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. There you go. Everybody's happy now, I guess. You know? Even though we would have been fine without it, but, you know, everybody's happy now. Yeah. Everybody's happy now.
[00:50:46] Jamon Fries:
Everybody can everybody can still get their their little videos to watch and, you know, everybody can still kill themselves doing the TikTok challenges.
[00:50:58] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Well, they're gonna kill themselves either way, you know. It's like Yeah. That's true. Well, whether it's TikTok, Facebook, or whatnot, you know, there's always something stupid. Yep. Yeah. Just just just like, Musk now. Apparently, somebody at Tesla is decided that, they need to approve a $1,000,000,000,000 pay package for Musk. Okay. I'm like, 1,000,000,000,000? Really, dude? That's what the, board chairman says is that, Musk needs a trillion dollars. Yeah. You know, he is the driving force of that, but a trillion?
[00:51:35] Jamon Fries:
It it's got a lot of, qualifiers on it. Well, yeah. Of course. He he has to meet some pretty stringent, deadlines and things. Mhmm. But they're less than what he's said his goals were. So, you know, it's the the the the things that he has to read that he has to the the goal the goals he has to achieve are kind of significantly lower than what he is promising he can do. So I yeah. It it's, it it it's I have no problems with with him with the company deciding to pay him that much if that's what they truly believe that he's worth. Well, right. Right. That that that's the thing that I've never that's the problem that I've always had is, what does it matter to us
[00:52:36] Jesse Fries:
what his pay package is? Well, right. But you could make it cheaper. You could make these things cheaper. But they're not gonna make the charge cheaper. No. I know. But they could.
[00:52:47] Jamon Fries:
Then they could. Stop paying these people so much. Yes. That that is absolutely true that they could, but that is a choice that they made. No. I don't. You know, it it's as as a private company, it's their right to pay a CEO whatever the hell they wanna pay them.
[00:53:04] Jesse Fries:
I agree. I agree. It really just seems a bit
[00:53:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It seems a bit high. Yes.
[00:53:13] Jesse Fries:
It's just a bit high.
[00:53:19] Jamon Fries:
You know, I mean, it that all depends on what he's got in in the works. You know? It it could be that he has some very, very drastic groundbreaking stuff coming out, you know, that's in the works. And if that's the case, then, you know, a million dollars, if it's gonna if it's Trillions. A trillion a trillion dollars if it if it's gonna earn the company, you know, like, a quadrillion dollars. No. I I I I would say that a trillion is worth it.
[00:53:46] Jesse Fries:
I understand. I'm just saying it just seems a bit extreme. That's it. That's it. I don't fault anybody for wanting money. But There there comes a point in time when with when money is involved
[00:53:57] Jamon Fries:
where the amount no longer matters.
[00:54:01] Jesse Fries:
No. See, that's it's like
[00:54:02] Jamon Fries:
once once you have your first $500,000,000 in the bank, it's all just pennies to you from then on because it doesn't matter. Well, right. Like you can ever spend that money. Yep. Yeah. Well, he
[00:54:19] Jesse Fries:
he he's trying to get he's using this money to put into other things as well. So, you know, it's like he takes that to, leverage, like SpaceX stuff or Boring Company this or that or some other company, you know, x or whatnot. So yeah. Yeah. No. I it's, I I I just find it a bit funny. Truly knows. It's just, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:54:45] Jamon Fries:
I I I love how they they say that if he doesn't get it, that he he might, just decide
[00:54:51] Jesse Fries:
to leave test. Yeah. I I I don't see that happening. Just saying. Yeah.
[00:54:56] Jamon Fries:
As much as he's put into it, I don't really see that happening. Yeah. No. Me neither. Me neither. Yeah. No. No. He'll find a way. Yeah. Probably so. Probably so. Yep.
[00:55:13] Jesse Fries:
What else you got?
[00:55:15] Jamon Fries:
Well, there's, talk about Elon Musk. X this is just kind of a PSA that was put out by one of my tech by one of my tech websites.
[00:55:31] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:55:32] Jamon Fries:
And, they said that x will no longer be using twitter.com for their, for their two party author, their two party author Two factor. Part what yeah. Two factor authorization stuff. Mhmm. Authenticated. Yeah. Yeah. So you have to re register. If you if you have your if you have your x account set up to be to to need the t the two f a key Uh-huh. Then you need to re register again with you can use the same two f a key and everything else like that, but you need to re register because they're getting rid of they're gonna completely shut down the twitter.com
[00:56:20] Jesse Fries:
page now. No. It makes sense. .Com is completely going away. No. Yeah. It's been forever. Most people don't even say Twitter anymore. I know. And most people don't say x formally Twitter, you know. They just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotten to the point where they can, I think?
[00:56:35] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. I still call it a tweet, though. I don't know what to call it other than a tweet. A post? Yeah. But that's too generic. Yeah. At least a tweet, you know, you knew which platform it was on.
[00:56:51] Jesse Fries:
Well, there is that. There is that. Yeah. That's better than the truth. Yeah. Yes. Oh, he he he posted a truth. It's like, yeah. Okay. Sure. That that that just goes into the whole woke thing. My truth. Yeah. No. There's truth. Yeah. And then there's everybody's opinion. You know? Let's see here. And speaking of opinions, please remember every study is probably wrong, and there's a study that proves it. So Yep. Yeah. And, with that, let's see here. Looks like, if you have a nightlight or just bright light in your room during, while you're sleeping, it can actually lead to heart attacks.
So you might wanna just sleep in complete pitch black. So Yeah. Stroke and heart attack is what I read. Yep. Yep. And it generally affects women and young men more, than anybody else. So Yeah. Yep. You can increase I don't know by how much. They never really give good numbers with these things, like the actual actual death rate versus whatnot. So but, yeah, they say you can. So there you go.
[00:58:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. From what I from the study that I read was slightly it didn't have anything to do with night lights. Oh, okay. It what it what the study that I that I saw talked about was just bright lights, artificial light. Basically, artificial lighting causes heart attacks and strokes while it whereas real lighting, like, from the sun, from being outdoors and stuff, has beneficial
[00:58:40] Jesse Fries:
aspects to it. So Well, it's based off the circadian rhythm and everything like that is what it is.
[00:58:49] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And and it's, you know, so it's not but it's not just when you're sleeping. It's so people that work at night, you know, stuff like that. If you're in a in a warehouse late at night No. Yeah. Yeah. You you're gonna you have a higher chance of stroke and heart attacks and stuff. Yep. Yep. So, yeah. It just be in the dark when it's dark and be in the light when it's light is basically what it's saying, which And if you work at night, if you're a third shift, you're just screwed.
[00:59:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Get ready for a heart attack. You know, that's what I would say. Yep. Yep.
[00:59:24] Jamon Fries:
And and the only way the only way to avoid that is, you know, just don't work night anymore.
[00:59:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everybody. No. No. It doesn't. Let's see here. Another study, they did a poll of kids, about, like, their sexuality and everything like that, the college age kids. And they took it, looks like from starting, like, 2020 up through now. And it looks like, basically, whenever there was the shutdown, it looked it looks like more transgender more people were transgender during that period of time during the lockdown, than since. So yeah. Because it's like it was like in 2020, it was, like, 2.9%.
They jumped up to 6.7%, and now it's back down to 3.6% or gender non. Okay. So, you know, it's, but meanwhile, like, for, gay lesbian, that was that's pretty much just static. Yeah. And then even, like, bisexual, it's there's a little bit of a difference, but not too much of one. But it's the Right. Queer questioning whatever. But it it really went up, like, 9% difference. So Oh, wow. Okay. And now it's Yeah. Coming back down. Now it's basically how it was before.
[01:00:55] Jamon Fries:
Right. Yeah. I I think that, you know, that it's I think that has a lot to do with the fact that people's sexuality won't change. But when you sequester people into, basically, solitude Yep.
[01:01:15] Jesse Fries:
Their minds get a little fucked. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I That's just the way it works. Yeah. It just gets a bit crazy. You know? You start questioning and everything and everything like that. You just do yeah. You got nothing else to think about, so you start thinking, what is a man? Yeah. Yeah. No. Man.
[01:01:32] Jamon Fries:
You know? Something like that.
[01:01:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. There's there's a reason why not much of this happens in the third world because they don't have time to think about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, they just don't have time to think about it.
[01:01:44] Jamon Fries:
Right. They don't have time to think about it. And but another aspect, I think, is that when you when you when you're sequestered away, when you're when you're in solitude, you don't have out you don't have input from others. And so you you don't you know, it for a lot of people, they don't have to show masculinity anymore. They don't have to show femininity anymore. You know, that that's there there are some people that they wear it like a cloak where, you know, they when they're outside, they they have to be as masculine as they can be. But in private, you know, they're just kinda laid back chill people. And Right. You know, and then so those people, I could see them starting to their brains being affected by not having to show that masculinity anymore.
Awesome.
[01:02:41] Jesse Fries:
I have anymore.
[01:02:43] Jamon Fries:
That that could be it. That could have something to do with it too. I have no idea. Yeah. No. No. I It's all mental shit, and nobody knows what the fuck is going on in anybody else's head.
[01:02:57] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Nobody knows. Yeah. Let's see here. What else do I got? Oh, looks like, scientists in The UK, they're they're demanding that the nitrates used in, like, bacon and ham that they need to stop that. So, basically, you just stop eating bacon and ham. Yeah. Yeah. They say that it leads to cancer, like, fifty four hundred bowel cancers a year or something like that in The UK. So Okay.
[01:03:41] Jamon Fries:
That's interesting.
[01:03:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's just the nitrates. You know? It's the stuff that helps make it still look pink after it's been processed. Yeah. It's just that sort of stuff. You know? And I'd be going well, okay. Once if we can actually make our brains learn that doesn't need to be pink. Yeah. Then then then then I find for that. You know? It's,
[01:04:03] Jamon Fries:
it's You know you and you know how to do that.
[01:04:06] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[01:04:08] Jamon Fries:
Is to find a way to make it taste better than the food with the nitrates.
[01:04:15] Jesse Fries:
It's bacon. No. You don't you you don't wanna mess with bacon. You have to have that same same flavor, Jamin. You no. You can't change the flavor on it. You cannot change the flavor on it. No
[01:04:25] Jamon Fries:
bacon tastes the same. What are you talking about? What are you talking about, Jamin? There are differences in all of the different kinds of bacon I've ever eaten.
[01:04:35] Jesse Fries:
They don't taste they don't just have one There are commonalities. Yes. There are common There's commonalities. It's like American bacon is completely different than British bacon because they do back bacon. Yeah. Yeah. We do belly bacon. You know? It's a much more fattier on our content, but also we smoke it. They really don't smoke it. They might for a little bit, but not by much. You know? There there's so many different bacon is not bacon, Jim. I've traveled the world. I know these things.
[01:05:09] Jamon Fries:
All I can say is the bacon that I've eaten, I I there's differences in the bacon that I've eaten. And I don't Slight differences. Like I I don't eat a lot of bacon. But, I do.
[01:05:21] Jesse Fries:
So you see, we should even take your You have no opinion on this. Your opinion means nothing.
[01:05:27] Jamon Fries:
Dude, bacon is so fucking expensive. I can't afford to buy it. What? $10 a pound and a half? Yeah. Do you have something like that? Yeah. When when I can buy five pounds of chicken breast for that same $10, I'm going with the five pounds of chicken breast for No. I understand. I understand. The bacon. So, yeah. It's, I I I enjoy bacon. Uh-huh. I I like whenever I'm getting, like, hamburgers and stuff like that, I love getting the bacon on the burgers and stuff like that. Mhmm. But, yeah. No. I just can't I can't bring myself to buy it. It's just too expensive.
[01:06:07] Jesse Fries:
No. I understand. I understand. I eat bacon a lot. We love bacon in this house. So, you know, it's bacon bacon.
[01:06:20] Jamon Fries:
And then the last story wow. We are really going short today. We're we're just barely hitting over an hour. Uh-huh. The last story is that, Apple has made a deal with with, quite a few states now. We've got, like, 20 some states, and Puerto Rico is in on it too, where they're going to have a digital ID in their in the Apple Wallet. Yep. Yep. That will be their your US passport and stuff like that. There's also there are also there's also things where the pad where the wallet can hold the key to your car.
[01:07:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. GM is coming out with that here shortly. Yeah. There's other ones that do that. Yeah. Yeah. And and some companies, it's only Apple. So so so so so Android users are going, what? Of course.
[01:07:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So yeah. I mean, so so the digital digital aspect of that is getting pretty good. Yeah. At least this way, you you know that you if if you were if your car key is in your wallet, at least you know that, you'll never leave your phone at home anymore.
[01:07:34] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But if you lose your phone, you are I know. You're you're really fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. And then The US passport, it'll only be used at, like, TSA's, at certain airports. It's not for travel, like, international
[01:07:49] Jamon Fries:
travel. It's for no. It's only for domestic travel, and it's only at the air at airports within, like, the 20 some states that they've that have signed in on it and stuff like that. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It it's basically just the next extension of the real ID.
[01:08:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:08:07] Jamon Fries:
There yeah. So yep. I thought that was kind of interesting that that all that stuff. Yeah. That that I was very confused about the car key because I've never not seen a physical car key for a car before. So Well, you really don't need one. That they're going no. You don't. I mean, all all it is now in most cars is it's just a stick that you put in. You don't have to you don't turn it to start the ignition or anything like that. You don't put it in at all.
[01:08:35] Jesse Fries:
It's just in your pocket. Now? No. It's just that you put jam in. You haven't had the car in a while.
[01:08:40] Jamon Fries:
No. I I still drive the my the newest vehicle that I've ever driven in my life is a 2,000. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's,
[01:08:47] Jesse Fries:
yeah. No. I I I drive many, many different cars. And yeah. No. You don't you don't need a key. The last my collar my canyon that I had was a physical key, and that was really annoying. But, generally, you don't need a physical key. You don't put it in anywhere. It's just in your pocket. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So so sometimes I just leave the key. Every time
[01:09:13] Jamon Fries:
even now, when I look at new vehicles Uh-huh. I for example, I was looking at buying a minivan
[01:09:19] Jesse Fries:
Right. Because
[01:09:21] Jamon Fries:
it would be a lot easier for me to get my wheelchair into a minivan than into my truck. Mhmm. And they all have a place on the dash to to plug to put the key into the into the dash. So I just assumed that they were that that was still what everyone was doing.
[01:09:37] Jesse Fries:
No. No. No. I've never seen such a thing. Usually, they have, like, a spot you can do that just in case of your, key fob dies. Okay. Because it's not putting on enough, wavelength, and so you put it there and maybe you'll put out just just enough, to get those sensor going. That that's pretty much all that. That's four from what I understand.
[01:10:01] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So Okay. Mhmm.
[01:10:03] Jesse Fries:
So it's essentially a place to hold the keys now. Yeah. That's all it is. That's all it is. You don't need it. You don't need it at all. Yeah.
[01:10:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Mhmm. Well, that that that makes a lot more sense with the wallet than that that you could have your car key be in the wallet. That makes No. Completely.
[01:10:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Makes nothing but sense. And with that, I'd like to thank you guys for joining us for episode 74 of the mindless meandering podcast. And I think today was pretty mindless. And, I'm Jesse Freeze. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you on Thursday.
Good afternoon, everybody. It is Monday, October 27, and we are live with episode 74 of the Minus Meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries. And, yeah, I got nothing today. Just nothing.
[00:00:37] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries, and I am currently trying to decide whether I want to buy or rent next.
[00:00:47] Jesse Fries:
Makes sense. Makes sense. Both have their positives and both have their negatives. So it's
[00:00:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It I I think I think what it'll all boils down to for me is that there there is one thing that could cause me to want to buy instead of to rent. Mhmm. And that is Florida, amongst other states including Illinois, Kansas, Montana, Pennsylvania, and Texas, are currently trying to pass legislation and or constitutional amendments to drastically reduce or reduce or completely get rid of property taxes.
[00:01:36] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I haven't heard of anything really I haven't heard of anything in Texas on that one, but I'm sure there's somebody trying to do something on that. But yeah. But then, you you know, that's fine and dandy, but, you know, they're gonna get their pound of flesh out of you one way or the other. So
[00:01:56] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. And and, you know, I I kinda like the way that, Florida is is talking about it. One of the the way that DeSantis is really behind is that it would eliminate it would only eliminate property taxes on your homestead.
[00:02:14] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:02:15] Jamon Fries:
Which means that if you own multiple properties, you're gonna have to pay taxes property taxes on those additional properties Oh, yeah. Just not on just not on the home that you live in, which Yeah. I mean, it it he's what essentially, what he's trying to do is he's trying to drive out in a way the property managers Right. That just go and buy every single freaking house out there for a lot of money. You mean BlackRock? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then they just rent those houses to people, you know. Yep. It's trying to make it so that it's more cost to fit that that it's much more costly to do that. So I I I could I would even get behind, you know, a slight property in property tax raises on second and third and fourth and fifth homes and stuff like that.
I could see that. Completely eliminating the property taxes on your primary residence. Yeah. I I wonder
[00:03:15] Jesse Fries:
I wonder how it affects, like, school districts because, generally, school districts raise their money off of, property taxes. Yeah. So would it just be at the state level or would it be at the what level would it be? Because county, that's how county gets most of their taxes as well.
[00:03:33] Jamon Fries:
If the So if the property there is no is there as far as I know, there is no state property tax anywhere. Yeah. I Yeah. No. Property taxes are paid to the local. That Right. And but in Florida, what they're trying to do is get the constitutional amendment that just makes it illegal to have property taxes on your primary residence. So No. I understand. But still that's that's a huge chunk. It is a huge chunk. One of the reasons that they're doing that is because they've found that they have way they're they're bringing in way too much money.
[00:04:14] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:04:15] Jamon Fries:
They they can't spend all the money that they're bringing in. Here in the state of Kansas, we have a billion dollars excess Yeah. That comes in from property taxes and stuff like that. Well, it's like here in Texas, they reduced,
[00:04:35] Jesse Fries:
the property tax is what they did in that case. Yeah. To me to me, that's the way it is because the reason why it's pulling in so much right now is houses are overvalued. Oh, yeah. Big time. And so because of that, they are you they're reaping the they're reaping in all these great, amounts of, property taxes, but it's not necessarily that. It's just that the houses are overpriced. Yeah. Because of places like BlackRock and crap like that. So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's like I I could see in Florida, the I could see where you would think that that would work, but I think it'd work for, like, a year or two.
And then people would start buying houses again instead of renting, and then there goes all your profits. You know? The so it could be The yeah. I mean, that that will eventually happen, but at the same time,
[00:05:29] Jamon Fries:
I would rather pay a higher sales tax than have to pay property taxes.
[00:05:35] Jesse Fries:
It it not me. Not me. No. Yeah. Yeah. That that's
[00:05:40] Jamon Fries:
that's just my personal opinion because, I mean, you know, I mean, I spend, like, $131,400 dollars a month, and that's all I spent. So Well, you well, yeah. You're mostly yours. For low in for low income Right. Right. A slight raise in in income tax is or in, not income tax, but in sales tax is not going to be a disastrous effect. Well, right. Right. But for those of us that For people with more money, I mean, it's absolutely gonna gonna cost them a whole lot more money. Yeah. Yeah. So But, you know and so I I think and for me, anything that we do that drives property ownership versus renting is Mhmm. A good thing. Because there there's just something about owning your own place. No. Yeah. That is so much better than renting. No. Completely. It it it is better.
[00:06:40] Jesse Fries:
I it's I I'm not, saying it's not or anything like that because it is. Of course. But, Right. Yeah. It's it's even better for your kids and everything like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Kids that grow up in a house where their parents own the house generally do better than those that grow up in the renting situation.
[00:07:00] Jamon Fries:
Well, that's because a lot of you know, when you're the the problem that I have with renting and and I know that this isn't isn't a one-sided thing because, you know, there's mortgages and stuff like that too. But it's more predominant in renting in that you're, you know, at least when you have a mortgage, you know that this is how much you're going to be paying. No. Completely. Completely. With with rent, you know, in in the eight years that I've lived in lived where I live, my lot rent has gone from $370 to $577.
[00:07:38] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Oh, yeah. You know? So every every year, I'm I'm spending more money on rent. Yeah. So if you could buy it like a plot Yeah. Then you would just be golden after some time because then No. Absolutely. Would would And everything that they just Social Security raises would just be money in your pocket instead of Yeah. Just going straight to the landlord. Exactly. Yes.
[00:08:04] Jamon Fries:
Which is which is why which is what I'm looking at right now. I'm trying to decide whether I rent whether whether to start renting somewhere because I've gotta move out of the trailer. We found out that I can't get an FHA loan for the trailer Okay. To buy the trailer. And that's because I don't land own the land it's sitting on.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
Got it. Got
[00:08:26] Jamon Fries:
it. So I have to either buy land and move this trailer onto it or buy another trailer and move it onto it. And then I'll be then I would be able to get an FHA loan for it. But until the but so I've gotta look for land, and I've gotta look for a trailer to buy. It's it's so annoying.
[00:08:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. And any sort of land close enough to a town because you probably want, like, to be able to get your crap delivered. Yeah. I need at least my grocery speed delivered right now. You have to be somewhat close to town at least then. Yep. You can't be too far away from the town. So yeah. Good luck to you. Good luck to you.
[00:09:08] Jamon Fries:
I'll figure it all out. Yeah. Yeah. Always do until you die. Yep. And then you haven't. You know? See, that's how it works. Absolutely. Yeah. That's how it works.
[00:09:16] Jesse Fries:
Looks
[00:09:18] Jamon Fries:
uh-huh. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna jump into stuff. So Yeah. I I was just yeah, I had nothing else to say really. Okey dokey.
[00:09:26] Jesse Fries:
Looks like Trump, has gotten some more trade deal wins, with Malaysia, and, Cambodia.
[00:09:35] Jamon Fries:
So Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. And he's
[00:09:39] Jesse Fries:
about to meet with, Xi Jinping. So Mhmm. Let's see if we can get something going with the Chinese. That's always a tougher one. Oh, yeah. Okay. So it's, but, yeah, it seems to be and progress is also going well with Thailand and Vietnam. So Okay. More trade deals along the way. So yeah. All good on that front. You know? That's what I like to see. Absolutely. And then, apparently, it looks like we may have, like, a quasi Bay of Pigs situation going on in Venezuela right now. Is that surprising, though? No. No. No. Apparently well, this is Venezuela says that they have captured, some CIA operatives. Basically, it was mercenaries. It was a mercenary group, that was, probably working for the CIA. Mhmm.
At least that's what they say. So I you never know how these things go if it's real, if it's not, you know, but it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. No. No. It wouldn't. I'm not really sure why Trump has this bug up his butt about Venezuela, but, you know, I really don't.
[00:10:58] Jamon Fries:
But, I have no idea.
[00:11:02] Jesse Fries:
Drugs, but then is it drugs? Yeah. I I really don't know exactly what's going on with that. Something seems odd.
[00:11:08] Jamon Fries:
At least on the surface, he's saying it's drugs, but yeah. I mean, it's on the surface, he's saying it's the cartels and the drugs and stuff like that that reached out of Venezuela. But I I don't know. I mean, he he seems to he he's only looking at Venezuela. He's not looking at anywhere else that has the cartels and the drugs and stuff. Well, no. Him
[00:11:38] Jesse Fries:
Colombia as well. Because some of the stuff is he's really going after Colombia as well. So Oh, is he? Okay. Yeah. Sanctions and whatnot. So, yeah, it's Colombian president almost hinted at that, he wants Trump taken out and so and so forth. So yeah. Yeah. It it it Okay. Okay. Yeah. It it's not Yes. It's about the cartels and the drugs. Yeah. Good possibility. Good possibility about it. Yeah. Because the cartels run pretty much everything down in those two countries.
[00:12:12] Jamon Fries:
I it could also it you know, if if you take it far enough, cartels are the main route of illegals coming into The United States. Right. Right. They're also a huge factor in human trade. Mhmm. Human trafficking. So
[00:12:36] Jesse Fries:
No. Yeah. It has something to do with that. Yeah. I saw one story where they detained a cartel guy who was trafficking a baby across the border. Yeah. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. That's the type of people we want in this in this country. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. So there's that there's that CIA, good old CIA shenanigans.
[00:13:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I'd I'd I'm almost more shocked if I if some I I'm almost more disbelieving if somebody says there is no CIA in that country operating, trying to, you know, make things make things different. That's that's not something we would do. Yeah. That's bullshit.
[00:13:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But, you know, they're in our sphere of influence. So we can actually do whatever we want there. To to at least that's what we think. So Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure other countries are so saying no. But, you know, it's like Of
[00:13:35] Jamon Fries:
course. Yes. Yes. Yep. It only matters what we think. After all, we have the biggest guns. Of course. Of course. Yeah. For now. For now. Yes. And on on local fronts in, in c the Seattle mayor is trying to trying to fund some, social welfare welfare stuff in the city. Mhmm. And he's calling he's he's been he's saying now that Microsoft and Amazon have a moral obligation to give back to the city.
[00:14:20] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Sure.
[00:14:25] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Bullshit. If I live if I live and operate in the city, I'm paying my taxes there. I'm employing the the people there so that they can pay their taxes.
[00:14:41] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:14:42] Jamon Fries:
We No. I understand. Yeah. The corporate taxes on Microsoft and and Amazon alone are would be more than enough to fund at least two major cities probably.
[00:14:56] Jesse Fries:
Probably so. Probably so. I I don't know what kind of deals because they they might have deals with these people. Yeah. These companies, they must have been given something. Anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To get them to get them to stay there or Exactly. They may they may have done that. But, you know, that's not on the company. That's on this that's on the city. No. I I I I'm with you on that one. But, yeah. It's, you never know with them. But, yeah, it's you know, there there there's Bill Gates, I think, himself would agree with that statement, but Oh, yeah. He does he's no longer Microsoft, and he's giving away his fortune or trying to, not really able to.
You know, it it it's like Carnegie. He did the same thing, Andrew Carnegie. He Yeah. Made a fortune. And then, apparently, he he just gave it away. And, apparently, he couldn't give it away fast enough because he forgot about one very important thing. What's that? Interest. Oh, yeah.
[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:
So try to think of Interest on those amounts is pretty nasty.
[00:16:00] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, he he did I I I heard his podcast. It was just, history on, Carnegie and everything like that. It's like he was a robber baron. He was a asshole Yeah. And everything like that. But in his later life, he decided to help everybody Okay. And give away his fortune, just like, like Bill Gates and everything like that. And so he he he like, public libraries. He would build public libraries, like, all over The United States. Yeah. But the only stipulation was that you had to pay for the books. He wasn't gonna pay for the books, but he'd give you a building for it, you know, but so on and so forth. So, you know, it's yeah. It's so some, yeah, some uber wealthy believe that.
Not all did. Like, the Rockefeller shirt didn't believe that. Oh, yeah. No. So, yeah, it's yeah. Who knows? Who knows? It's,
[00:16:55] Jamon Fries:
I I is Seattle that bad off, though? Is that's the question. What what what do they want? Well, see, the the problem is is that Seattle has such a stand back attitude. I mean, the article didn't really go into exactly what they were wanting to do. It just said that they had a lot of that they had a lot of, a lot of programs that that they wanted to do. Yeah. It it's a, the what they're they're trying to fund a social housing in Seattle.
[00:17:35] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:17:36] Jamon Fries:
So in other words, they wanna build houses for the homeless so that they can just live in them.
[00:17:45] Jesse Fries:
Well, then they wouldn't be homeless. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that is very true. You know, it's like
[00:17:53] Jamon Fries:
But, you know, I mean, there's a large percentage of homeless people. It they're not. They're they're homeless by choice.
[00:18:02] Jesse Fries:
A lot of them. Yep. Yep. Yeah. The men, at least.
[00:18:06] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. Mhmm. Now, you know, I I would fully be behind, like, doing something like that. But in order to do that, you have to have excess money. You have to have a lot of leftover money Right. That can't go to something better. But yeah. It it's
[00:18:27] Jesse Fries:
so basically, they wanna build a whole bunch of houses and stuff like that, and they want Microsoft and Amazon to pay for it. Interesting. Okay. How about you just do it yourself? You know, that's that's true. Yeah. Yeah. That's, raise the taxes like normal. Come on. This is what you do. Raise the taxes.
[00:18:45] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That was that was what one side wants to do. The other side is, like, you can't just keep raising taxes like this.
[00:18:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, you can if you're Yeah. Like New York City, you know. Mom Donnie will probably raise taxes like nobody's business. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's,
[00:19:03] Jamon Fries:
Well, no. And, you know, the the voters Seattle voters approved a measure creating a publicly funded social housing developer Mhmm. Financed by a 5% tax on salaries above $1,000,000.
[00:19:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay.
[00:19:22] Jamon Fries:
So if you make more than a million dollars, people that are poor decided that you have to pay 5% more taxes.
[00:19:32] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Is that gonna actually help the poor? Probably not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Probably go to build some other building or something like that. Get some more bureaucrats going. You know? It's a Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Uh-huh. Let's see here. Looks like, we revoked the visa of, the guy Sami Hamdi. He's a British commentator.
[00:19:57] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:19:59] Jesse Fries:
He he he's a Muslim commentator. He has links to Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood. And he truly celebrated, October 7 when it happened. So
[00:20:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I I'd say it's a pretty good reason to, revoke his his
[00:20:18] Jesse Fries:
ability to be here. Yeah. Yeah. It was just a speaking visa sort of thing, like, a tourist visa sort of situation, but he was giving speeches and whatnot. So it was for work and everything like that. So yeah. It it they kicked him out. They let him in, and then they kicked him out. I don't know why why why they just didn't stop him to begin with, you know? Yeah. But I have no idea. You you know, it's like free speech, whatnot. But, yeah, it's, I like free speech, but when it comes to celebrating death, I I I'm just I don't like that sort of thing. You know? It's, it's not a good thing to do, celebrating death, rape, pillage. Yeah.
[00:21:03] Jamon Fries:
That that's the one place where I would consider allowing that kind of speech to have consequences. But I I there there's problems with that too, of course, because Yeah. You can. Yeah. Free speech.
[00:21:27] Jesse Fries:
And once you go down that route, it's a never ending route. And so you just can't do it. It's just Yeah. You may not agree with it, but, you know, fine. But if you're gonna come to a country Oh, yeah. The country can tell you no. If you're gonna come to a country and you're gonna be talking like that, then you should expect that the country isn't gonna welcome you there. Well yeah. Or just anything against them. You know, it was like Candace Owens. You know? Australia said, yeah. You're not coming here. Just saying. Uh-huh. So not that you blame them with Candace Owens. That's what? Yeah. You know?
She's got crackers right now. But yeah. You know? It's, yeah. It it it it's a slippery slope, but, you're a visitor here. I don't think visitors can I I think the federal government can have a right to say that to visitors? That that's what I Well, you know, it it's one of the it to me, it's one of those things where
[00:22:23] Jamon Fries:
I firmly believe that the rights that we have as citizens of The United States
[00:22:31] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:22:32] Jamon Fries:
Many of them now not all of them, of course. We do have to extend some of those rights out to others. But many of those rights, I think, should be reserved for citizens or people, you know, citizens of The United States, which means that you have a freedom of speech, but we don't may not want you in the country anymore. No. Yeah. Yeah. We we can't arrest you for what you say. Yeah. But we can sure as hell kick you out. No. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine with that. Much like any of the other stuff. You know? It it it you're coming here to take advantage of the rights that we as citizens have. And if you abuse those rights, then
[00:23:14] Jesse Fries:
we should have every right to say, you know what? You're not here anymore. No. No. It it's like when, like, Canadians say it would come down and protest Trump and, well Yeah. Our border patrol, if you actually told them what you're doing here, go, oh, we're going to protest. There we go. No. You're not. Turn right back around. That's what they said because you coming into protest to cause any sort of disruption, it's not good for any state, for any Exactly. Government. So yeah. No. Out. Out. Yep. Mhmm.
[00:23:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So and then, this the, shutdown.
[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:23:53] Jamon Fries:
Twenty seventh day, I think it is now or something like that. Yeah. Something like that. I don't know. We'll hit a full month sometime this week is what I is what they said. Mhmm. But now, the largest Federal Workers Union is really getting on Democrats trying to get them to end this thing early. Really? Really? Yeah. They they've come out and, you know, the headline, of course, doesn't say that that's what they're saying because, well, it's on NBC News. It just says largest federal workers union calls for an end to to the shutdown putting pressure on Democrats. Mhmm. But, yeah, basically, they're like, so you're telling us that three people are saying we can't get paid, and that's what's stopping us from being paid. Yeah. It's like six people or something like that. It's just a few Democrats.
Gotcha. They only need three. The the Oh, yeah. There are there's, one independent and two Democrats that are that have that voted for it now. Oh, okay. Okay. So he's getting closer. Fetterman, another one, and the end of and the the, senator from Maine. Right. Well, Fetterman was always there. So Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So they only need three more Democrats to cross the line or independents, you know. Bernie Sanders could do it. Just saying. Mhmm. He's independent,
[00:25:17] Jesse Fries:
You know? He could do it. Actually, this is five more. Yeah. Five more needed. Oh, is it five more needed? Yeah. Five more needed. Yep. Okay.
[00:25:26] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Okay. So five people are preventing millions of people from getting paid.
[00:25:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At least a million. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So the the troops were paid, thankfully, out of whose ever pocket that was. Apparently, he has a private army now.
[00:25:48] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The they they play there was two different ways that they got the money for that. One was, of course, the private donation that was good. Uh-huh. The other one is they took money that was allocated in other parts of the military
[00:26:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:26:08] Jamon Fries:
That were set to be that were not up for the discretionary budget Got it. Got it. And they used that to pay the troops. Oh. Some people are now saying that they should also do that with food stamps. Mhmm. But they can't because the the only money available that could go towards food stamps, that's part of the food bit that's part of the food program
[00:26:34] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:26:35] Jamon Fries:
Is school lunches. And so they would have to they would have to take the money out of school lunches to to continue SNAP.
[00:26:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:26:46] Jamon Fries:
Okay. Well And that's that's across that that's something, you know okay. So you're gonna take food from the kids so that you can give food to the kids.
[00:26:58] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Sounds about right. Sounds
[00:27:00] Jamon Fries:
about right. Yeah. So so they've decided not to do that. They're just gonna let SNAP go to go the route of, you know, not having funding and not nobody receiving SNAP. Well, it it's not that nobody's gonna receive SNAP benefits Uh-huh. Because they put money into they gave they give money to the states. Right. And then the states control how that money is is appropriated out. There so what that means is that some states, for now, will still have still have some money in savings Mhmm. That they can allocate towards food stamps, whereas other states just spend everything as it comes in. Right. And so they won't be able to to extend food stamps. So it's gonna be a state by state thing as to whether people get re still receive food stamps or not.
[00:27:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Everything it it there towards the beginning, Schumer was saying that, every day gets better for the Democrats, but I think it's actually starting to turn. Oh, yeah. It it it wasn't really hurting Trump or the Republicans at all, throughout this whole thing. And but a lot of people said, oh, the yeah. The Republicans should negotiate and everything like that. But the longer it gets on now, I think it's I think it started the tide is shifting. I think it's just like, well Mhmm. You guys are the ones holding this up just to pay. You know? I I so it's the Democrats that are doing this. It's not anybody else. You know? It's it's yeah. No. It's like you're going along and then, somebody throws a rock and goes, oh, well, we should negotiate me throwing rocks at you, you know?
It's kinda like yeah. How does that really work? You know? It's, yep.
[00:28:46] Jamon Fries:
I'm gonna keep throwing rocks until you give me something. And Yeah. Yeah. We need we should negotiate so you get you you know, maybe I'll accept less, but you're still gonna give us something. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:28:58] Jesse Fries:
I I I really think things are shifting. I I don't seem as much negative about Trump when it comes to this. But then this whole east wing thing.
[00:29:08] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's been
[00:29:11] Jesse Fries:
it's hilarious. I swear to God why they seem to care so much about the East Wing. You know? It's I just don't get it. You know?
[00:29:19] Jamon Fries:
No. Because it's Trump.
[00:29:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, right. Right. But, you know, it's just the East Wing. You know? It was Yeah. Yeah. Basically built in, what, '42 or something like that when they were trying to Yep. Cover up the bunker during World War two. And that was about it. Beyond that, there there was, like, a coat closet that became a movie theater. Okay. Okay. That that that because it was the entryway there for a bit. Just a small little shutout was what it was in nineteen o two and with a big coat closet. And so they just turned that into the movie theater, the coat closet. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And so that that that's all it is. You know? And then the first lady, they had their things there and everything like that. But, yeah, it wasn't really that big of a deal. And he's building a freaking ballroom.
You know? So, yeah, I don't see an issue. I really don't. But they're they're still harping on it. You know? They're still harping on it. So Of course.
[00:30:19] Jamon Fries:
I I I love the I I love their statements of, you know, this is symbolic of what he's doing to The United States. He's actually he's actually taking a a a, what are they called? The big huge wrecking ball. He's Uh-huh. Taking a wrecking ball to the White House. He's doing the same thing to the country.
[00:30:45] Jesse Fries:
Actually, it's actually is a good argument. You you could actually It is. Yes. Yeah. Be because you could say, you know, he's tearing what needs to be torn down in order to build Yeah. A better future. I look at it, I'm like, yes. He is tearing apart your institutions.
[00:31:03] Jamon Fries:
Yes. He is destroying quite a bit of shit that didn't really need to be there in the first place. Yeah. Superfluous
[00:31:11] Jesse Fries:
things that actually don't matter. Yeah. He is getting rid of and tearing down and trying to build back. Yeah. Make America great again. You know? I was gonna say build back better, but that that's like a Biden's thing. So Yeah. Seemed wrong to say that for some reason.
[00:31:29] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes.
[00:31:32] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. So it's yeah. It's a good argument. I I I I'm for that I'm for that argument. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. 100%
[00:31:40] Jamon Fries:
myself as well. Mhmm. Yeah. The, Fed is currently poised to cut interest rates again this week. Okay. And most likely again in December and potentially again in January.
[00:31:58] Jesse Fries:
Okay. We will see. We will see. Yeah. Let's see what that does do. Housing prices and mortgage rates. Because it really hasn't dipped too much from what I could tell. Right.
[00:32:08] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it's just been a very minuscule cut. I mean, it wasn't like a massive cutter. No. Yeah. Interest rate cut or anything like that, the last one. But now according to according to the article that that I read on that, they were saying that, they're not seeing as large of an inflation spike as they were expecting due to tariffs. Right. Right. And so they've they've kind of they they've kind of started to accept that maybe tariffs aren't going to drive inflation like they thought. Did did they start thinking this back in, like, June?
[00:32:45] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And now they're going, well, we're still thinking. It's brand new, you know, but we're thinking that Yeah. It's not gonna do anything. Yep. Yeah. It's it's funny. It is funny. It really is. Yeah. Let's see here. Apparently, the Navy, the USS Nimitz, they lost two aircraft in thirty minutes.
[00:33:11] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I've read about that. A helicopter and a jet.
[00:33:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, it may just be bad fuel. So the Nimitz is returning back to base. Okay. Probably gonna dump all the fuel and everything like that and then, get new stuff. But yeah. So Trump's like, oh, don't think anything nefarious. Don't read into this people. So that means we should read into it. Right? You know? Absolutely. Yes. 100%.
[00:33:42] Jamon Fries:
If if the president tells you not that there's nothing to look at, it means that there's usually something to look at. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:33:50] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[00:33:54] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Definitely. But, yeah. I read an article. UC Berkeley, you know. Mhmm. Very, very, very liberal university. Well, right. They have started a new class, a a new a new set of classes
[00:34:20] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:34:22] Jamon Fries:
That is questioning why America puts so much influence on being white because they're immigration. Okay. Okay. It's an anti ice class Well, yeah. Basically. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. They're they're they're they're researching into how the, how Asians and Hispanics are considered aliens in The United in The United States. Asians? Yes.
[00:35:01] Jesse Fries:
Well, maybe Indians. See, this is the term where you say Asians. And when you say Asians, I think, like Southeast Asians, like Chinese,
[00:35:11] Jamon Fries:
Southeast, Japanese, Vietnam, Japan, Korea, you know, stuff like that. I don't I don't think India. India No. I don't. I know it's part of Asia, but it is but also The Middle East. Yeah. That's Asia as well. Yeah. Exactly. So to say Asian is just
[00:35:32] Jesse Fries:
is too broad of a category. We we there's many different races in there or at least different ethnic groups, you know, different people that look differently, you know. So it's like Absolutely. We we to me, that's it. I'm trying to picture in my mind's eye because I like to picture things in my mind's eye. Oh, yeah. When you say something. So when you say Asian, I say, I I just automatically go Southeast Asian sort of thing in my head, and I don't lump Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis in I don't I don't lump those in with that at all. So Yeah. No. Not at all. Southeast Asians, you know, I think we accept them because they are Yeah.
They're very rules based, their societies, just like ours.
[00:36:17] Jamon Fries:
And so They're they're they're very rules based. They're very, they're very family oriented. They're they they have a lot more in similar they have a lot more similarities to us. They respect law. They respect all these things, you know. It's not they're not coming over here for, like, a religious purpose or anything like that trying to Right. Well and and the even the the for me, the bigger aspect is that they respect our laws instead of trying to adopt theirs. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah. Yeah. It's,
[00:36:52] Jesse Fries:
they they don't poop in the streets, you know, or on the beach or things like that. You know? I just, like Yeah. Just small little things that
[00:36:59] Jamon Fries:
unless you're in San Francisco, those are generally frowned upon things to do.
[00:37:06] Jesse Fries:
That's probably mostly white homeless doing that. I'm just I I know that. I know.
[00:37:13] Jamon Fries:
That's that's a common sight in San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So so the Indians would feel at home there. Yeah.
[00:37:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's
[00:37:26] Jamon Fries:
A racist would say. That that's something that I I I love on the, Gutfeld show. Uh-huh. Is anytime he anytime Gutfeld's Gutfeld's Says something kind of funny. Uh-huh. Yeah. If he's if he's making comedy and it's about and it's about women or Right. Other things. It's a a feminist would say, a racist would say. Yeah. That's funny. That that that's a good way to coach it. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:38:04] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. It's there's always differences between people and everything like that, and you can just look at them because you see differences and everything like that. But, you know, as long as yes. Some people just hate for the sake of hate, but, you know, just it's the cultural differences to me that can mean the most. Yes. Absolutely. When laws aren't obeyed, things like that, you know. Yeah.
[00:38:29] Jamon Fries:
So Yeah. Yeah. When you when you have a group that that is used to an entirely different set of laws Oh, yeah. Yeah. That tries to convince people that their laws are superior and their laws should be followed.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That's where we run into issues. No. Completely. Come obey our laws, our system. Yeah. And then slowly come out and we can add some of yours. Our laws. Exactly. And maybe slowly, we might be able to add some of yours into our system. Who knows? As long as they're decent laws. Well, no. That's how it always is. Yeah. But, you know, every group comes in. We they meld and, you know, things change a little bit and everything like that, which is fine with me.
[00:39:13] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It it it's it's it's fine if it's in the process of the natural growth of a of a community.
[00:39:20] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:39:21] Jamon Fries:
It's when it's one one group that tries to force it on others, that's where big problems happen.
[00:39:28] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So speaking of Indians, what is, this, no. Don't don't don't don't kill me, Indians. You don't know what's going on with this Afghanistan Pakistan thing.
[00:39:39] Jamon Fries:
How's that speaking of Indians? Come on, man. That's Pakistan borders Pakistan borders India. It used to be part of India. Used to be part of India. Yeah. Okay. We'll get there. Yeah. I I guess the Pakistani people have been fighting against, I I guess there's a a resurgence of, like, Al Qaeda and other groups like that in Afghanistan going on right now. Uh-huh. And they've been crossing over into Pakistan and doing shit there. I got it. Got it. And so Pakistan has been fighting them on the border, of course. Uh-huh. But they've also made incursions into Afghanistan because they're saying, well, if Afghanistan's not gonna do anything about them and keep them from coming into Pakistan, we're gonna have to go and just, you know, get rid of them. Right.
And so that's that's sparked off some battles and stuff like that between the Afghanistan military and the then the pallet then the Pakistani military. So Alright. Yeah. They're they're they're currently they've currently got a ceasefire going on. But, you know, I mean, part of the problem is is that when you've got a country that's doesn't have a definitive military uniform Mhmm. It's really hard to know who it is that's attacking.
[00:41:13] Jesse Fries:
I could see that. If Afghanistan,
[00:41:16] Jamon Fries:
you know, they don't have a military uniform per se. Mhmm. They yes. They all wear black and they would you know, they're everyone that's part of the of, of the group, they wear black and they they they usually wear combat vests and stuff like that as well. But that's not a military unit. That's not a military uniform because anybody can wear black. Anybody can wear one of those vests on. Mhmm. And not even all of their soldiers wears wears black or those vests. Right. Sometimes they dress in normal clothes. So when you have a mil so when a country has a military that doesn't have a set uniform, where everyone knows this is who they are, How does Pakistan know that it's not actually Afghani military people coming across the border to do shit? No. Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense.
So, you know, I mean, that's
[00:42:16] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Yeah. No. There's a reason for uniform code law codes of international conflicts and things like that. There's reasons for these things. They're treated differently. If they're not in uniform, that means they're a spy, which means I can kill them on-site. Yep. If they're uniform and they're captured, then, well, you have to, basically, you could take you could hold them and everything like that, but there's certain rules that you have to follow. They become prisoners of wars and Yeah. Yeah. Apply. Yeah. But another re the the biggest reason for those military
[00:42:46] Jamon Fries:
for those military uniform codes that seems to get ignored by many is that the reason that a that a country's military should wear a uniform is so that they're not ever confused with civilians. If you've got military personnel with no uniform amongst civilians
[00:43:08] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:43:11] Jamon Fries:
I hate to say it, but in some way, those civilians become open targets as well. Well, no. It's like Hamas. Hamas has no sorts of things. So if somebody dies,
[00:43:22] Jesse Fries:
how do you know they're part of Hamas or they're a civilian? Yeah. You you you can't necessarily even base it on whether or not they have a gun next to them or anything like that. Yeah. No. It's just Yeah. How how can you actually base it on anything? You know? You kill them. You could throw the gun. You know? Explosion. They'll throw the gun. You know? It's like Yep. This is just what it is. So, yeah, you you you need to have those situations. Otherwise, they're just terrorists. That's all it is. Exactly. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Let's see here. Looks like, Orban, the Hungarian, prime minister, he's he's really good after, the EU. He's calling them, the Soviet oppressors.
[00:44:08] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow. Yeah.
[00:44:12] Jesse Fries:
And he says that they will remain island of peace and migrant free. Nice. So, yeah, he says the pro war countries have been formed, have already formed a coalition of the willing. They are willing to send others to die. You you know, it's he even said that Brussels, let's see, That Brussels blocked, the president's peace mission, in Ukraine and so on and so forth. So, you know, it's yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's they must not like him. I'm surprised Hungary is still part of the EU. It's kinda funny that it is. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:56] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's it's one of those countries that doesn't really fit into the it it doesn't fit with the way EU is.
[00:45:08] Jesse Fries:
No. It really isn't. Yep. Yep. Apparently, there's a huge, like, 200 or so 100,000 people, marching, And, apparently, not a single EU flag could be seen, amongst the against the the the whatever, the demonstration. Yeah. It was just all Hungarian flags. That's all it was. So Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I I really think the EU is useless. It's worthless. I I think it's a failed system.
[00:45:43] Jamon Fries:
Oh, big time. Yeah. Big time. Well, you know, it it the only way that you could ever make the EU work is if every other if every member country had to give its up the aspect of it being a separate country.
[00:45:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Exactly. Because you have to get everybody to agree. Could work. Yeah. You you have to have unanimity for some of these decisions. Yeah. Like, all 27 state. This would be, like, if the senate if it had to be unanimous
[00:46:16] Jamon Fries:
every time had to have a 100 votes to pass anything.
[00:46:20] Jesse Fries:
It's like a filibuster is bad enough, but unanimity. Yeah. Hoy. Exactly. How can you get anything done? You you know, it's it's just you you you'll have to throw so much crap into these bills, into these laws just to make everybody go, okay. Well, I get something out of this then and everything like that. Yeah. It's like, I no. It's all pathetic. It is, truly, truly. Is. Yeah. Here at the minus man and roots, we are a value for value system. So that means if you get any value out of this podcast, you can help us defray the cost of the podcast, the server time, and everything like that. We'll take a dollar. We'll take a penny. We'll take $2. Anything you think this was worth to you, just send us. Let us know that you like us. Maybe you don't. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe that's why we don't get any.
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So Oh. Yeah. A hun 183,000,000 passwords were stolen. Damn. But I'm sure that, those have already been stolen and many other
[00:48:04] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I highly doubt that there's any new passwords in there. I I checked my, Gmail account.
[00:48:14] Jesse Fries:
I I checked to see how many data breaches it was. It was, like, 15 data breaches it's been part of. This time, I actually changed the password, so I'm gonna try to have to remember a new password. Okay. Okay. Because I like to have a a odd sequence that's not based off anything, just random characters and everything like that. So Yeah. And then I memorize it. And so I can use that for yeah. Yeah. And the and then I could use it for a while. But, yeah. So I'm gonna try that. Let's see if that holds. Yeah. I I let my computer computer do my memorizing for me. Yeah. I like to have one that I can actually do so I can Yeah. Use that to get into the other. So
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Makes sense. Mhmm. Makes sense. Yeah. For me, I don't really care that that much about it. No. I understand. I understand. I I have I have very weak passwords for my email and stuff like that because, well, 90% of what I get is junk and the other 10% comes from mom. Just little things that she
[00:49:19] Jesse Fries:
ran across that she wants to send me. Yeah. Yeah. No. We all get those here. We don't. Yeah. I know.
[00:49:26] Jamon Fries:
But I mean, yeah. So I mean, it's not like there's anything truly important in my email. So Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take a look at it. I understand. I don't care if you can access it. Yep. And, talking about Internet stuff What? Trump and z, Trump and, and Trump and z. Xi. Sorry. Sorry. Xi have, have reached what they what many people consider to be a consensus
[00:49:58] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:49:59] Jamon Fries:
On TikTok on the TikTok sale.
[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:50:04] Jamon Fries:
And they're supposed to sign off on that deal on Thursday. So we'll see if everything holds up on that. Yeah. That'd be good. That would be good. Yeah. It looks like, Oracle will be taking over, and then there's gonna be a bunch of other people on the board that that'll control that will be what will be there for the security of TikTok and stuff like that. Yeah. And then
[00:50:28] Jesse Fries:
ByteDance wouldn't get a huge chunk of the profits off of it. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. There you go. Everybody's happy now, I guess. You know? Even though we would have been fine without it, but, you know, everybody's happy now. Yeah. Everybody's happy now.
[00:50:46] Jamon Fries:
Everybody can everybody can still get their their little videos to watch and, you know, everybody can still kill themselves doing the TikTok challenges.
[00:50:58] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Well, they're gonna kill themselves either way, you know. It's like Yeah. That's true. Well, whether it's TikTok, Facebook, or whatnot, you know, there's always something stupid. Yep. Yeah. Just just just like, Musk now. Apparently, somebody at Tesla is decided that, they need to approve a $1,000,000,000,000 pay package for Musk. Okay. I'm like, 1,000,000,000,000? Really, dude? That's what the, board chairman says is that, Musk needs a trillion dollars. Yeah. You know, he is the driving force of that, but a trillion?
[00:51:35] Jamon Fries:
It it's got a lot of, qualifiers on it. Well, yeah. Of course. He he has to meet some pretty stringent, deadlines and things. Mhmm. But they're less than what he's said his goals were. So, you know, it's the the the the things that he has to read that he has to the the goal the goals he has to achieve are kind of significantly lower than what he is promising he can do. So I yeah. It it's, it it it's I have no problems with with him with the company deciding to pay him that much if that's what they truly believe that he's worth. Well, right. Right. That that that's the thing that I've never that's the problem that I've always had is, what does it matter to us
[00:52:36] Jesse Fries:
what his pay package is? Well, right. But you could make it cheaper. You could make these things cheaper. But they're not gonna make the charge cheaper. No. I know. But they could.
[00:52:47] Jamon Fries:
Then they could. Stop paying these people so much. Yes. That that is absolutely true that they could, but that is a choice that they made. No. I don't. You know, it it's as as a private company, it's their right to pay a CEO whatever the hell they wanna pay them.
[00:53:04] Jesse Fries:
I agree. I agree. It really just seems a bit
[00:53:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It seems a bit high. Yes.
[00:53:13] Jesse Fries:
It's just a bit high.
[00:53:19] Jamon Fries:
You know, I mean, it that all depends on what he's got in in the works. You know? It it could be that he has some very, very drastic groundbreaking stuff coming out, you know, that's in the works. And if that's the case, then, you know, a million dollars, if it's gonna if it's Trillions. A trillion a trillion dollars if it if it's gonna earn the company, you know, like, a quadrillion dollars. No. I I I I would say that a trillion is worth it.
[00:53:46] Jesse Fries:
I understand. I'm just saying it just seems a bit extreme. That's it. That's it. I don't fault anybody for wanting money. But There there comes a point in time when with when money is involved
[00:53:57] Jamon Fries:
where the amount no longer matters.
[00:54:01] Jesse Fries:
No. See, that's it's like
[00:54:02] Jamon Fries:
once once you have your first $500,000,000 in the bank, it's all just pennies to you from then on because it doesn't matter. Well, right. Like you can ever spend that money. Yep. Yeah. Well, he
[00:54:19] Jesse Fries:
he he's trying to get he's using this money to put into other things as well. So, you know, it's like he takes that to, leverage, like SpaceX stuff or Boring Company this or that or some other company, you know, x or whatnot. So yeah. Yeah. No. I it's, I I I just find it a bit funny. Truly knows. It's just, yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:54:45] Jamon Fries:
I I I love how they they say that if he doesn't get it, that he he might, just decide
[00:54:51] Jesse Fries:
to leave test. Yeah. I I I don't see that happening. Just saying. Yeah.
[00:54:56] Jamon Fries:
As much as he's put into it, I don't really see that happening. Yeah. No. Me neither. Me neither. Yeah. No. No. He'll find a way. Yeah. Probably so. Probably so. Yep.
[00:55:13] Jesse Fries:
What else you got?
[00:55:15] Jamon Fries:
Well, there's, talk about Elon Musk. X this is just kind of a PSA that was put out by one of my tech by one of my tech websites.
[00:55:31] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:55:32] Jamon Fries:
And, they said that x will no longer be using twitter.com for their, for their two party author, their two party author Two factor. Part what yeah. Two factor authorization stuff. Mhmm. Authenticated. Yeah. Yeah. So you have to re register. If you if you have your if you have your x account set up to be to to need the t the two f a key Uh-huh. Then you need to re register again with you can use the same two f a key and everything else like that, but you need to re register because they're getting rid of they're gonna completely shut down the twitter.com
[00:56:20] Jesse Fries:
page now. No. It makes sense. .Com is completely going away. No. Yeah. It's been forever. Most people don't even say Twitter anymore. I know. And most people don't say x formally Twitter, you know. They just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotten to the point where they can, I think?
[00:56:35] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. I still call it a tweet, though. I don't know what to call it other than a tweet. A post? Yeah. But that's too generic. Yeah. At least a tweet, you know, you knew which platform it was on.
[00:56:51] Jesse Fries:
Well, there is that. There is that. Yeah. That's better than the truth. Yeah. Yes. Oh, he he he posted a truth. It's like, yeah. Okay. Sure. That that that just goes into the whole woke thing. My truth. Yeah. No. There's truth. Yeah. And then there's everybody's opinion. You know? Let's see here. And speaking of opinions, please remember every study is probably wrong, and there's a study that proves it. So Yep. Yeah. And, with that, let's see here. Looks like, if you have a nightlight or just bright light in your room during, while you're sleeping, it can actually lead to heart attacks.
So you might wanna just sleep in complete pitch black. So Yeah. Stroke and heart attack is what I read. Yep. Yep. And it generally affects women and young men more, than anybody else. So Yeah. Yep. You can increase I don't know by how much. They never really give good numbers with these things, like the actual actual death rate versus whatnot. So but, yeah, they say you can. So there you go.
[00:58:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. From what I from the study that I read was slightly it didn't have anything to do with night lights. Oh, okay. It what it what the study that I that I saw talked about was just bright lights, artificial light. Basically, artificial lighting causes heart attacks and strokes while it whereas real lighting, like, from the sun, from being outdoors and stuff, has beneficial
[00:58:40] Jesse Fries:
aspects to it. So Well, it's based off the circadian rhythm and everything like that is what it is.
[00:58:49] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And and it's, you know, so it's not but it's not just when you're sleeping. It's so people that work at night, you know, stuff like that. If you're in a in a warehouse late at night No. Yeah. Yeah. You you're gonna you have a higher chance of stroke and heart attacks and stuff. Yep. Yep. So, yeah. It just be in the dark when it's dark and be in the light when it's light is basically what it's saying, which And if you work at night, if you're a third shift, you're just screwed.
[00:59:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Get ready for a heart attack. You know, that's what I would say. Yep. Yep.
[00:59:24] Jamon Fries:
And and the only way the only way to avoid that is, you know, just don't work night anymore.
[00:59:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everybody. No. No. It doesn't. Let's see here. Another study, they did a poll of kids, about, like, their sexuality and everything like that, the college age kids. And they took it, looks like from starting, like, 2020 up through now. And it looks like, basically, whenever there was the shutdown, it looked it looks like more transgender more people were transgender during that period of time during the lockdown, than since. So yeah. Because it's like it was like in 2020, it was, like, 2.9%.
They jumped up to 6.7%, and now it's back down to 3.6% or gender non. Okay. So, you know, it's, but meanwhile, like, for, gay lesbian, that was that's pretty much just static. Yeah. And then even, like, bisexual, it's there's a little bit of a difference, but not too much of one. But it's the Right. Queer questioning whatever. But it it really went up, like, 9% difference. So Oh, wow. Okay. And now it's Yeah. Coming back down. Now it's basically how it was before.
[01:00:55] Jamon Fries:
Right. Yeah. I I think that, you know, that it's I think that has a lot to do with the fact that people's sexuality won't change. But when you sequester people into, basically, solitude Yep.
[01:01:15] Jesse Fries:
Their minds get a little fucked. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I That's just the way it works. Yeah. It just gets a bit crazy. You know? You start questioning and everything and everything like that. You just do yeah. You got nothing else to think about, so you start thinking, what is a man? Yeah. Yeah. No. Man.
[01:01:32] Jamon Fries:
You know? Something like that.
[01:01:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. There's there's a reason why not much of this happens in the third world because they don't have time to think about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, they just don't have time to think about it.
[01:01:44] Jamon Fries:
Right. They don't have time to think about it. And but another aspect, I think, is that when you when you when you're sequestered away, when you're when you're in solitude, you don't have out you don't have input from others. And so you you don't you know, it for a lot of people, they don't have to show masculinity anymore. They don't have to show femininity anymore. You know, that that's there there are some people that they wear it like a cloak where, you know, they when they're outside, they they have to be as masculine as they can be. But in private, you know, they're just kinda laid back chill people. And Right. You know, and then so those people, I could see them starting to their brains being affected by not having to show that masculinity anymore.
Awesome.
[01:02:41] Jesse Fries:
I have anymore.
[01:02:43] Jamon Fries:
That that could be it. That could have something to do with it too. I have no idea. Yeah. No. No. I It's all mental shit, and nobody knows what the fuck is going on in anybody else's head.
[01:02:57] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. Nobody knows. Yeah. Let's see here. What else do I got? Oh, looks like, scientists in The UK, they're they're demanding that the nitrates used in, like, bacon and ham that they need to stop that. So, basically, you just stop eating bacon and ham. Yeah. Yeah. They say that it leads to cancer, like, fifty four hundred bowel cancers a year or something like that in The UK. So Okay.
[01:03:41] Jamon Fries:
That's interesting.
[01:03:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's just the nitrates. You know? It's the stuff that helps make it still look pink after it's been processed. Yeah. It's just that sort of stuff. You know? And I'd be going well, okay. Once if we can actually make our brains learn that doesn't need to be pink. Yeah. Then then then then I find for that. You know? It's,
[01:04:03] Jamon Fries:
it's You know you and you know how to do that.
[01:04:06] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[01:04:08] Jamon Fries:
Is to find a way to make it taste better than the food with the nitrates.
[01:04:15] Jesse Fries:
It's bacon. No. You don't you you don't wanna mess with bacon. You have to have that same same flavor, Jamin. You no. You can't change the flavor on it. You cannot change the flavor on it. No
[01:04:25] Jamon Fries:
bacon tastes the same. What are you talking about? What are you talking about, Jamin? There are differences in all of the different kinds of bacon I've ever eaten.
[01:04:35] Jesse Fries:
They don't taste they don't just have one There are commonalities. Yes. There are common There's commonalities. It's like American bacon is completely different than British bacon because they do back bacon. Yeah. Yeah. We do belly bacon. You know? It's a much more fattier on our content, but also we smoke it. They really don't smoke it. They might for a little bit, but not by much. You know? There there's so many different bacon is not bacon, Jim. I've traveled the world. I know these things.
[01:05:09] Jamon Fries:
All I can say is the bacon that I've eaten, I I there's differences in the bacon that I've eaten. And I don't Slight differences. Like I I don't eat a lot of bacon. But, I do.
[01:05:21] Jesse Fries:
So you see, we should even take your You have no opinion on this. Your opinion means nothing.
[01:05:27] Jamon Fries:
Dude, bacon is so fucking expensive. I can't afford to buy it. What? $10 a pound and a half? Yeah. Do you have something like that? Yeah. When when I can buy five pounds of chicken breast for that same $10, I'm going with the five pounds of chicken breast for No. I understand. I understand. The bacon. So, yeah. It's, I I I enjoy bacon. Uh-huh. I I like whenever I'm getting, like, hamburgers and stuff like that, I love getting the bacon on the burgers and stuff like that. Mhmm. But, yeah. No. I just can't I can't bring myself to buy it. It's just too expensive.
[01:06:07] Jesse Fries:
No. I understand. I understand. I eat bacon a lot. We love bacon in this house. So, you know, it's bacon bacon.
[01:06:20] Jamon Fries:
And then the last story wow. We are really going short today. We're we're just barely hitting over an hour. Uh-huh. The last story is that, Apple has made a deal with with, quite a few states now. We've got, like, 20 some states, and Puerto Rico is in on it too, where they're going to have a digital ID in their in the Apple Wallet. Yep. Yep. That will be their your US passport and stuff like that. There's also there are also there's also things where the pad where the wallet can hold the key to your car.
[01:07:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. GM is coming out with that here shortly. Yeah. There's other ones that do that. Yeah. Yeah. And and some companies, it's only Apple. So so so so so Android users are going, what? Of course.
[01:07:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So yeah. I mean, so so the digital digital aspect of that is getting pretty good. Yeah. At least this way, you you know that you if if you were if your car key is in your wallet, at least you know that, you'll never leave your phone at home anymore.
[01:07:34] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But if you lose your phone, you are I know. You're you're really fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. And then The US passport, it'll only be used at, like, TSA's, at certain airports. It's not for travel, like, international
[01:07:49] Jamon Fries:
travel. It's for no. It's only for domestic travel, and it's only at the air at airports within, like, the 20 some states that they've that have signed in on it and stuff like that. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It it's basically just the next extension of the real ID.
[01:08:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:08:07] Jamon Fries:
There yeah. So yep. I thought that was kind of interesting that that all that stuff. Yeah. That that I was very confused about the car key because I've never not seen a physical car key for a car before. So Well, you really don't need one. That they're going no. You don't. I mean, all all it is now in most cars is it's just a stick that you put in. You don't have to you don't turn it to start the ignition or anything like that. You don't put it in at all.
[01:08:35] Jesse Fries:
It's just in your pocket. Now? No. It's just that you put jam in. You haven't had the car in a while.
[01:08:40] Jamon Fries:
No. I I still drive the my the newest vehicle that I've ever driven in my life is a 2,000. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's,
[01:08:47] Jesse Fries:
yeah. No. I I I drive many, many different cars. And yeah. No. You don't you don't need a key. The last my collar my canyon that I had was a physical key, and that was really annoying. But, generally, you don't need a physical key. You don't put it in anywhere. It's just in your pocket. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So so sometimes I just leave the key. Every time
[01:09:13] Jamon Fries:
even now, when I look at new vehicles Uh-huh. I for example, I was looking at buying a minivan
[01:09:19] Jesse Fries:
Right. Because
[01:09:21] Jamon Fries:
it would be a lot easier for me to get my wheelchair into a minivan than into my truck. Mhmm. And they all have a place on the dash to to plug to put the key into the into the dash. So I just assumed that they were that that was still what everyone was doing.
[01:09:37] Jesse Fries:
No. No. No. I've never seen such a thing. Usually, they have, like, a spot you can do that just in case of your, key fob dies. Okay. Because it's not putting on enough, wavelength, and so you put it there and maybe you'll put out just just enough, to get those sensor going. That that's pretty much all that. That's four from what I understand.
[01:10:01] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So Okay. Mhmm.
[01:10:03] Jesse Fries:
So it's essentially a place to hold the keys now. Yeah. That's all it is. That's all it is. You don't need it. You don't need it at all. Yeah.
[01:10:10] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Mhmm. Well, that that that makes a lot more sense with the wallet than that that you could have your car key be in the wallet. That makes No. Completely.
[01:10:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Makes nothing but sense. And with that, I'd like to thank you guys for joining us for episode 74 of the mindless meandering podcast. And I think today was pretty mindless. And, I'm Jesse Freeze. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you on Thursday.
Introductions and housing dilemma: buy vs. rent
Property tax reforms and homestead exemptions debate
Stability of mortgages vs. rising rents; FHA and land hurdles
Kicking off the news rundown
Trade deals: Malaysia, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam; China meeting
Venezuela tensions and alleged CIA mercenaries
Free speech, visas, and deportations over extremist ties
Federal shutdown politics and union pressure
White House East Wing renovation symbolism debate
Fed rate cuts outlook and tariffs impact on inflation
USS Nimitz incidents: jet and helicopter lost; fuel concerns
UC Berkeley course on race, immigration, and cultural clashes
Afghanistan-Pakistan border flare-ups
Hungary's Orban vs. the EU
Housekeeping: value-for-value note to listeners
Major Gmail breach
TikTok sale framework: Oracle, governance, and data security
Musk headlines: trillion-dollar Tesla pay package debate
PSA: X two-factor auth migration off twitter.com
Studies on light exposure, circadian rhythm, and heart risk
Campus surveys on gender identity shifts post-lockdown
UK push to remove nitrates from processed meats; bacon debate
Apple Wallet IDs, digital keys, and the keyless car era
Wrap-up and sign-off
