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Here we go again talking about more fall out from the Lefts reaction to Charlie Kirks assassination, some wins for the Trump administration, a win for Luigi in state court, and much more.

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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:20) Intro

(00:02:01) Politics kickoff: A MN Rep. wants Ilhan Omar arrested

(00:03:30) Reaction to an assassination and partisan fallout

(00:06:23) Free speech, FCC, late-night hosts, and affiliates’ power

(00:08:17) Government vs. public response; keeping politics out

(00:10:59) Civility, label wars, and cultural flashpoints (trans, marriage)

(00:17:10) Talk of a ‘national divorce’ and red/blue map realities

(00:20:25) Antifa as terrorism and revolutionary mindsets

(00:23:17) Immigration cases: Mahmoud Khalil, DACA rules, and borders

(00:28:00) DACA origins: memos vs. executive orders and Congress’ role

(00:32:44) News roundup: Hochul’s remark, travel data sales, Fed cut

(00:36:52) Debating the Federal Reserve, inflation, and gold standard

(00:39:23) Charlie Kirk case oddities and conspiracy caution

(00:43:07) International: Zelensky-Putin meeting terms; Poland drone/missile

(00:45:56) UN genocide claim against Israel debated

(00:57:44) Youth-led coup abroad and brief political oddities

(00:58:16) Value-for-value break and listener contributions

(01:00:00) Tech/business: TikTok U.S. ownership framework and risks

(01:01:25) NY case: CEO assassination charges and terrorism definition

(01:02:46) Science set 1: Cannabis and fertility; sex differences in pain

(01:10:30) Science set 2: Eating windows, BMI, and longevity insights

(01:15:35) Science set 3: AI health forecasts, HSAs, and insurance incentives

(01:20:36) Medtech & history: Handheld bone ‘printer’ and ancient mummies

(01:25:16) Culture grabs: First Ladies’ gender rumors and legal responses

(01:28:32) Final fun story: UK teacher’s drunken class

[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon, everybody.   It is September 18, and we are and it's a Thursday. And we are live with episode sixty sixty three of the mindless meanderings. And   I'm Jesse Fries. And just so you all know, unlike some podcasts, we are 100% human.  

[00:00:42] Jamon Fries:

Okay. That made me stop and think for a second. And I'm Jamin Freese, and,   yeah, there's really not much going on in my life right now. Everything's just   good in all in all ways. So  

[00:00:57] Jesse Fries:

That is good. That is good.  

[00:01:00] Jamon Fries:

I'm walking and everything else. So, yeah, I'm I'm feeling really good. Nice. Nice. Nice.  

[00:01:07] Jesse Fries:

So, yeah, apparently, there's this company,   out there who has 5,000 podcasts,   about 3,000 episodes a week,   and they're all AI.  

[00:01:23] Jamon Fries:

Wow.  

[00:01:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So   so, you you know, it's like I bet they're gonna go on a deep dive into everything because that's what AI likes to say. I'm gonna we're gonna go into a deep dive on this topic and that topic and everything. Yep.   You know, it's  

[00:01:42] Jamon Fries:

So that's where our other five listeners went. Yeah. Probably so. Probably so. Yeah. They they they went to the  

[00:01:49] Jesse Fries:

the AI podcast, you know, because it's more entertaining than us, apparently. You know? Yeah.   Yeah. AI. Yeah.   It's not what I am. Okay. So   on to politics real quick. Let's just get that out of the way.   So there's a representative in Minnesota who is calling for the arrest of   Ihan Omar.   So   yeah. He he says he has proof   that she   miss   that she married her brother,   that she helped her brother, that she lied under oath, that he lied under oath,   so on and so forth. He says he has the proof. Now I   I I'll I'll I'll see it when I see it. Somehow, I doubt it. But,   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He he's calling, for the FBI to arrest her.  

So I don't know why a rep in from Minnesota would have the proof, but apparently,   some rep in Minnesota does. And it's just like a local rep. It's it's a state level rep. It's not a   a federal rep. So Interesting.   Mhmm. Yep. Yep.  

[00:03:05] Jamon Fries:

Something seems a little bit kinky about that maybe.  

[00:03:08] Jesse Fries:

What do you what's going on over there, Jamin? You you are, like  

[00:03:12] Jamon Fries:

you're not next I I was playing with wires.  

[00:03:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Don't do that, dude. We're live here. You know?   So   okay. You you you done? Just started bugging me. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Bad time to do it.   Let's see.   Let's see here. The whole   Charlotte Kirk thing and all the repercussions of that might as well cover a bit of that.   Yeah.   Right now, a bunch of, Democrats or ex Democrats   are tired of the reaction,   that the that many on the left have done about the assassination.   And there's been quite a surge   of   people   joining the Republican Party,   like,   in the matter of thousands, while the Democrats only have a matter of hundreds of people joining every day.   Damn.  

Yeah. Yeah. It's quite it's quite a shift, you know, and Oh, yeah. Big time.   You know, I I I think it's really that. It   it's the assassination, yes, bad, of course.   But it's the reaction that has really made this thing have legs.  

[00:04:21] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Without without a doubt. If if there if the reaction were different,   if everyone would have just stayed silent   and,   you know, even if they had to pretend   that they were sad about what happened,   none of this would have happened.  

[00:04:40] Jesse Fries:

It wouldn't have. But all these jackasses   decide to go on social media, do a video   of them cheering.   Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure there were probably some people   happy,   as one article I read said.   They said, I'm sure somebody at home was happy when the Kennedys   were assassinated, and I'm sure somebody at home was happy when MLK Junior was assassinated.   Yes. Absolutely. Kept it to themselves.  

[00:05:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   That that's that's the difference is that when you go out, you gloat, and you celebrate publicly,   everyone that thought that it was a travesty is like, what the hell? Am I really part of this?  

[00:05:20] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Or even the ones that don't really think of it as a tragedy, but they think   that it's completely poor taste. Decorum.   Yes. Yes. You know, you just you you sit back and you just let the side grieve. Because if you just pile on and pile on, you know, you get what happened to Kimmel.   You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   Now now it's going a bit too far on that if you ask me from the right. The right is taking this   especially Trump and his rhetoric. It's going a bit too far. Now let's see what   that actually does because he he's always he he's very boisterous in his opinion.   Right. But then what the actions are   are usually   toned down.  

So Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:06:04] Jamon Fries:

Trump Trump talks very, very strong, but what he actually does usually   is  

[00:06:11] Jesse Fries:

kind of a, at least a tamer version of what he said. He was Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's it's like he goes, okay. I'm gonna do this. And then if it's legal, you know, he adds that in there. So, you know, it's Yeah.  

[00:06:24] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. Well, you know, it it's like with,   with the FCC   making the comment that with the FCC   person making the comment that he did   Mhmm.   Many people are are viewing that as government censorship.  

[00:06:40] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:06:43] Jamon Fries:

But   in FCC regulations,   if anyone if a broadcast   a broadcaster   knowingly   dis disseminates   false information   Yeah. And they know that it can cause   cause people to behave in different ways Uh-huh.   Then they can be censured for that. Oh, completely.   Completely. And all this all this guy did was, like, look, you know, if you're not going to do it, we're gonna have to look into it. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep.   So it it wasn't like he was it's not like he said you need to fire him. I and the the most the FCC would have done is find the company. They wouldn't have done anything else.  

[00:07:26] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. That's what the FCC would have done. Apparently, though, there's   a there's a whole merger,   that's part of this as well.   Apparently, like, affiliates.   So Oh, yeah. Local stations and everything like that. There's a big merger going on. Like, one that has, like, 34 net stations is wanting to merge with somebody else and everything like that. Yep. And they're the ones that actually said we're pulling the plug on Kimmel.   They're the ones that actually did it. It wasn't Yeah. It wasn't ABC. It wasn't Disney at first or anything like that. It was just straight up It was They go, if he's still there, we're out of here. Plain and simple. We're not running him. Yeah. They they just simply said, we are not going to air that show anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Which is they're not gonna air the show, then why the hell would Disney decide to keep it running? Yeah. Unless there is four markets, so that's quite a Yeah. That's quite a few markets out there. So it's That it is. Yes.   Yeah. So, you you you know, yeah, the rhetoric on the right has gotten a bit   rough and everything like that, and I really don't appreciate that. I really don't. You you you let you let us people take care of it. Don't Yes. Government should not be getting involved at all.  

Not a ounce. Plain and simple.   Because I I know you wanna rah rah them on and everything like that, but Right. Yeah. It's the government. The government has no place.   No. It doesn't.  

[00:08:45] Jamon Fries:

That's that's the one thing that I'm disappointed with with,   the way the Trump administration is where Right. Right. They did where they are the first ones reacting to everything.   Yeah. The only time the government should react is when the population   does nothing about something.  

[00:09:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. Completely. Completely. You know, I think we're taking care of it pretty well ourselves. You know? It's Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Social media, the networks, they're they're doing pretty good job. Companies are firing people when they cross the line and everything like that. And, you know, that is their right as businesses to do anything like that.   Yeah. But the government should stay the fuck out. It's just Yeah. Absolutely.   You you know, you really because when it's on your side, you wanna go, yay. Yeah. Yeah. But you have to temper it, especially when it comes to the government.   You you know, it's like all this stuff when they went after Trump for politics political reasons and everything like that. Yeah. With the crim criminal courts and everything like that. Well,   you shouldn't have done that because it's just gonna  

[00:09:52] Jamon Fries:

come back at you, you know, tenfold if not more. You know? And, you know, that that's that's another place where I'm kind of torn.   Mhmm.   I don't like that the FCC commissioner came out and did what he said what he said. No. I I'm with you. Yeah. Because   that is purely the role of the public. The public Yep. Should have boycotted him, which would have resulted in the same exact thing. No. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the affiliates, they can  

[00:10:21] Jesse Fries:

they can do that. They could say, no. We're not doing that. It's like dealerships with, with car companies. It's like going, we're not selling any of those cars just so you know, because they suck. Suck. You know? Yeah. It's what it's what they can do. You know? It's the power of those affiliates.  

[00:10:35] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. But at the same time,   I would much rather hear about what the government thinks about something like that Right. Than hear two years later   that the FBI and other comp and other governmental agencies   were in contact with Twitter and Facebook Completely. Telling them these people need to be censored.  

[00:10:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm with you on that. I am with you. So I I like the openness of it, but I don't  

[00:11:04] Jamon Fries:

but I don't like that it was done.  

[00:11:08] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. I I I don't mind them commenting.   I really don't. As long as most of these things just stay in the comment area. Yes. Yes.   I I I think that's   that'll be fine. But if it actually gets into them  

[00:11:24] Jamon Fries:

doing anything about it His comment his comment about about how   if they don't do something about it, it may lead to investigation. So that Right. Was that was that was way beyond the line. No. I I I think so too. But  

[00:11:38] Jesse Fries:

it's whether or not those investigations actually happened. That's the question. You know? Because   he he he he just talks, you know, and half the stuff he says, it's like, sure, dude. Whatever.   You know? That that I I I treat him as I treat so many other people in this world. You know? You go, okay. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.   But   yeah. No. As long as it stays there, you know, and now he wants them to kick off Fallon. But, you know, Jimmy Fallon to me has always been   a relatively   he he's more of an easygoing guy. You know? He's not the hate   that Colbert and, Kimmel were. Yeah. Colbert and Kimmel were just hate. I I don't Yep. Pure and simple.  



[00:12:17] Jamon Fries:

They they just turned the show straight to attacking Trump. Million   with with those two, there could be a million good stories. Mhmm. But they're still gonna talk about something Trump said a week ago. No. Completely. Completely.  

[00:12:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And they will lie about things. And it's not just Trump. It's every conservative now. You know, just like that lie that Kendall told. You know, that was a blatant lie.   Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it's like, no. He wasn't mega. We knew by that point he wasn't mega. Yeah. You know? There's   yeah. It's   I I don't know why he thought that would be okay. You know? It   it's every every one of these conspiracy theories   about the Kirk assassination   that the left has  

[00:13:00] Jamon Fries:

has just, like, completely disappeared. You know? It's Well, I can tell you why he thought it was okay.   Why?   Because it was okay for the entire four years of the Biden administration.  

[00:13:11] Jesse Fries:

Oh, and and it was okay the first four years of Trump as well, actually.   Yeah. Yeah. No. It seems but that's the thing. For him for anything he said or did. No. See, that's the thing is that   I I really think that's where it completely   why it got to this point because nobody Yeah.   Actually   monitored this crap and held them to account for all their stupid crap that they were saying. You know? Like, like, you you you call me a Nazi. You call me a Nazi, you hold them liable automatically. Yeah. You say this Absolutely. Hold them liable. Just Yeah. Completely because seriously,   pretty much of course, there are some Nazis, but, basically, the Republican Party is not Nazis.  

No. You know, they're not fascist. Well,   they're fascist to a hippie. You know? But, you know Right. Right. Right. Like like the quintessential sixties, oh, you're a fascist sort of thing. You know? Where it's just   government. You know? Yep.  

[00:14:04] Jamon Fries:

The fact the government exists means that it's fascist.  

[00:14:08] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. Just because you're a cop, you're part of the fascist, thing. You know? It doesn't matter. Yes. Absolutely.  

[00:14:14] Jamon Fries:

Now one one thing that I really wish would have happened with the whole Nazi and fascist   labels and everything else like that. Uh-huh.   The very first time that it was, that it was uttered, there should have been lawsuits  

[00:14:30] Jesse Fries:

for defamation of terrorism. I I I I agree.   Unfortunately,   the Republican Party and general conservatives,   we don't like lawfare.   Well, not only that, but we're more easygoing.   You know, I I'm sure Democrats wouldn't agree with that, but we are more easygoing. You know, we don't just get hateful.   It's been proven through this whole past few years, the whole trans thing and everything like that. It's like conservatives   most of our position is,   I don't understand it. That's fine. You're an adult. Do what you want. I don't care. Just don't just we're not gonna let you do it to kids. Exactly. Exactly. That that's it. And and don't think that a a male body can compete against the female body. I I it's just   it's like these but beyond that, whatever you wanna do   Oh, yeah. Absolutely. When it comes to not affecting anybody else,   do it. But if you're affecting anybody else only exception to that that I've seen  

[00:15:30] Jamon Fries:

in recent history   was gay marriage.   The the the fact that they wanted to call it marriage seems to really get on some people's go. Yeah. Yeah. It it it would.  

[00:15:43] Jesse Fries:

I agree.   I I didn't think that was a big deal, because Yeah. No. Me either. You you you're basically giving them all the you you wanna give them all the rights with the whole partnerships and whatnot. But Yeah. Absolutely. Don't wanna call it.  

[00:15:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You you you want Yeah.   Yeah. So, I mean,   when marriage is the accepted term for that type of relationship   And Right. But it's just call him a big term for it unless you're gonna   unless you're gonna use use that new term for everyone.  

[00:16:16] Jesse Fries:

Well, you marriage is so ingrained in the society and rights and privileges of spouses   that   really the only way to actually make it equal   is to allow the marriage, you know. Not not a partnership because you'd have to go through so many   so many things   to actually get it to that Yes. Actual Yes. Equal part, you know. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely. I mean, marriage is something that is  

[00:16:43] Jamon Fries:

it's intrinsic   to every law that we have. Can you imagine how many laws would have to be rewritten?   If they just turn change the term marriage?   Mhmm. Yep. I mean, you have so many laws that just had to be completely re rewritten.  

[00:17:00] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you you no. But it's like that divide in between   that that that we're trying to cross. But, you know, apparently, like,   Marjorie Taylor Greene, she doesn't even want that. Apparently, she's called for   The US just to be split in between blue and red. So, you know, it's just that's it. Just split it. So she wants basically the two coasts except for the South,  

[00:17:26] Jamon Fries:

and the Central and South would be in the the separate country?  

[00:17:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Basically, you'd have the Northeast would probably be a country.  

[00:17:37] Jamon Fries:

And the entire West Coast. Entire West Coast.  

[00:17:42] Jesse Fries:

And then you'd have these other ones.   You know, it's like, where would Michigan fall in? Because Michigan is Yeah. 50. Yeah.   Minnesota is a red   or, I mean, blue,   in a sea of red. You know? So it yeah. Yeah. Well, you could have the Midwest Upper Midwest.  

[00:18:00] Jamon Fries:

Extremely complicated.  

[00:18:01] Jesse Fries:

And Yeah.  

[00:18:03] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, at least the red states would be contiguous.  

[00:18:07] Jesse Fries:

No. That there is that. There the the the The blue states would just be kinda splattered all over, and they'd almost have to form separate countries in and of themselves. They would after some time. Just just like what happened with Pakistan and Bangladesh Yeah. Yep. When India broke up. You know? It it it'd be the same thing. It's  

[00:18:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I  

[00:18:27] Jesse Fries:

That's that's an extreme that I mean, no. Just no. No. I but, you know, she she she's it was all about the whole, like, they assassinated our nice guy who actually talked to them peacefully,   debating ideas.   So it's   like, let's just go with a peaceful national divorce. Let let's just I can get I can understand the I can understand the sentiment. I really can.  

[00:18:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I can understand the sentiment. But Because I think all of us seems too much like giving up. I think we all want out of this as in Oh, yeah. Can't we get back to just  

[00:19:01] Jesse Fries:

a regular   dialogue that we can actually talk for and everything like that? You know, it's   it it the left,   unfortunately,   it was   the one bad thing about the gay marriage decision   was that it really accelerated the trans push.   Oh, yeah. Because they go, we got that win. Let's go for another win.   And   I really think   they they they so they say the social media, everything like that, that that feeds into it. But I think the one issue that has really   driven the spoke in between all of us, it is really this trans issue.   Yes. It is. You you know, it's   the the I I I really think that is the one division,   and neither side is willing   to compromise on the situation. You know? It's Right.  

Yeah. We we we all are standing firm on this, and I I don't   we haven't been able to find a way out.  

[00:20:05] Jamon Fries:

No. No. We haven't. And I don't see I don't see a foresee in the foreseeable change future that changing.  

[00:20:11] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. I I I yeah.   I agree. I agree. I but   I I really think it it because I don't know anything else that is such   a detour from   normalcy.   You know what I mean?   It's like you have you you can have like socialism this that, you know. Right. Okay. Fine and everything like that. But that one issue,   it's really   and then, of course, just   all this hate going back and forth just   like Antifa. Antifa now is a terrorist organization. Yeah. So, you know, it's Absolutely. Yeah. It's   it it makes sense. It makes sense. All they do is,   attack   violently. Yeah. You know, they that's, in their wheelhouse to do so. I don't see why   you would just let them skate   where it's Yeah. No. I mean, it it's  

[00:21:07] Jamon Fries:

the the only difference is I don't know if   the   in most terrorists,   fear is what they're after. They they want you to fear them.   I'm not sure if Antifa wants you to fear them.  

[00:21:24] Jesse Fries:

No. They they want the fascist to fear them is what they want. They they they you know, that's  

[00:21:31] Jamon Fries:

that's true. And and they do consider anybody that's conservative fascist.  

[00:21:35] Jesse Fries:

So Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. If you're not I guess If you're not communist, you're fascist.   Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they they want the people to they they wanna cause so much fear that people will   switch   the system. To communism.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:21:53] Jamon Fries:

And I Yeah. They they are Which has worked wonderfully in the history of the world.  

[00:21:59] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. No. They're they're right up there with, like, Lenin and, Mao and everything like that. They they all believe in the revolution,   and they will do anything   for that. You know? It's  

[00:22:12] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, and and the the problem is so for me, the problem with with that thought   Mhmm. Is   it's not that they wanna fix what's wrong. It's that they want the revolution.  

[00:22:26] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:22:27] Jamon Fries:

You know, they they could care less what happens after the revolution.   They just wanna be part of a revolution.  

[00:22:35] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Yeah.   No. It's just like Lennon. Lennon was,   he he was a revolutionary. It's really what he was. He he he was   his   form was,   communism,   but, really, it was he was just a revolutionary. You know? He wanted to get rid of the czar and everything like that. You know? He was in exile and everything like that.   Yeah. And then Germany wanted Russia out of the, World War one, and so he sent Lenin back. That's what the geyser did.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah.   But   yeah.   Okay. What else do we got here?   Immigration. You know? We got,   Mahmoud Khalil.  

He's been, or is about to be deported.  

[00:23:32] Jamon Fries:

His,   his attorneys are trying to get I guess he has another legal case going   on right now. Okay. And his attorneys are trying to get that judge now to   to order that he be that he remain in the country.   So I don't know I don't know if he's actually gonna get departed or not yet, but the immigration the immigration judge   has ordered that he that he is defeated, departed. So Yeah. Yeah. So  

[00:23:57] Jesse Fries:

that that that's always it's like, who wins, you know, in that situation? You know? It's   the immigration judge or the,   regular judge. You know? Yeah. It's,   Yeah. But but, you know, it it's just yeah. It was basically because of all his statements and everything like that because he is not a citizen and everything like that. Right. And so he was pro Palestinian on what was it? Columbia? Was that Columbia? Yeah. Yep. Columbia University.   Yeah. And so he he was spouting his stuff while he was on a visa   on a student visa.  

And then   yeah. He he got married, has a green card now. But   until you you're a citizen   Yeah. Then You can still be deported. You can still be deported. Looks like and Trump wants to extend that to citizens, but I'm not sure how well that's gonna go for him. I know that's what he said, but I haven't heard of one   yet being Yeah. I I can't imagine that going over well. I really can't either. Like like, revoking the citizenship, you you really have to.  

[00:25:00] Jamon Fries:

Not not not You have to really screw the pooch hard Yeah. Citizenship  

[00:25:04] Jesse Fries:

revoked. Yeah. Yeah. You really do.  

[00:25:07] Jamon Fries:

Really hard. But talking about talking you you mentioned Colombia. That that reminded me of a story that I saw,   that,   the   the former president of Colombia   is now a high ranking member in the British government.  

[00:25:25] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.   Okay.  

[00:25:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. She was brought in,   I I can't just off the top of my head, I I didn't really read that into the story because it didn't seem seem that important to me. Uh-huh. But, I I think she's now, like, one of the   prime   economic advisers or something like that. Okay. Okay.   May maybe that's good, you know. She might be a hell of a economist, you know. So Yeah. I mean, it it she she may be able to help Britain quite a bit. She was also part, she was also before she came to Columbia, she was   part of the,   the England's Bank.   Uh-huh. So she she so she's very familiar with the financial   with the financial   area in in Great Britain. So I mean It was probably a really good fit for her. Yeah. We'll see why not. You know, it's  

[00:26:17] Jesse Fries:

not sure how long that government would last, but, you know, it's a Yeah. Yeah. It it seems to be pulling not so well over there. So  

[00:26:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   And,   also on immigration news though,   I've   recently seen a few articles talking about,   DACA. Uh-huh.   And,   you know, they're they're talking about people that had received DACA that had that were being ex that were being deported.   And, you know, most of the stories, I'm like, I   I   don't know. It's kinda like, you know, they've committed some crimes in the past, but nothing that would have re revoked their DACA,   their DACA membership.   But,   you know, now they're being sent out sent out. But,   there was one.   So part part of DACA   is you cannot leave the country.  

If you leave the country, then you lose DACA, basically. Well, yeah. Because you are here illegally. Yeah. Yes. Uh-huh. So there was a guy   that he he drove for Uber.  

[00:27:25] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:27:26] Jamon Fries:

He missed his first exit. The second exit had an accident.   The third the third exit was in New Mexico.   Oh, Jesus. So he went down into Mexico, turned around, tried to come back, and they're, like, saying that, you know, he shouldn't be deported.   Oh, the he's not being deported. He's being   not let back in.  

[00:27:48] Jesse Fries:

He voluntarily   left The United States. Yeah. I would say   yeah. Yeah. Dude. That's gotta suck.  

[00:27:58] Jamon Fries:

I know. I know.   But, you know, I I I was looking into DACA a little bit   because, you know, I I had remembered   that there was   that Congress was trying to pass the dream act and stuff like that for quite a while Right. Back during the Obama administration and before it. Mhmm.   And so a judge at some point in time,   I think in his last   term,   president Trump   tried to revoke DACA.   And the courts told him that he couldn't do it.   Uh-huh. So I that got me to thinking, you know, if if it's, like, law that was passed but if it's law, the land that was passed by congress, then, you know,   then, of course, he can't do it. Right. But it was it was a presidential member memorandum   done by Obama.  

Wasn't there a dream act? An a a a weak executive order.  

[00:28:55] Jesse Fries:

Wasn't there a dream act?  

[00:28:57] Jamon Fries:

Yes. There was, but it didn't pass.   It didn't get through congress.   That's And so Obama just   signed a presidential memorandum  

[00:29:08] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:29:10] Jamon Fries:

Putting everything that the dream act wanted into effect.   But since it was a presidential   Right. Right. Not an act of congress,   Trump has every authority   to remove DACA.  

[00:29:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then   the only fight that they would   they could have with that is, you know, it's   the whole   what bit him in the butt last time is that you can't just do it. You have to have, like, this period   grace period and everything like that. But, yeah, it's,  

[00:29:44] Jamon Fries:

yeah, if it was just presidential, yeah, he can get rid of it. You know? He's yeah. All he has to do is the one thing I I've I didn't I I didn't know that much about presidential memorandums versus executive orders. Uh-huh.   So a presidential memorandum can be overridden by an executive order, but an executive order cannot be written overridden by a memorandum.   Yeah. So therefore, the executive   order is, like, the strongest thing that the president can do, and a memorandum is a little bit weaker. Right. Since this was a presidential memorandum,   all Trump would have to do is write an executive order reversing DACA.  



[00:30:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Okay.  

[00:30:22] Jamon Fries:

Okay. And it would be gone.  

[00:30:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   You you know,   I really do feel for those   people. I really do.   It's   it's rough being brought over by your parents and then   Oh, absolutely. Yes. And then you you you've been here your whole life, basically.   Yeah. But you're not a citizen. Yeah. I I it'd be a rough life. I really do. I feel for him. I feel for him. But  

[00:30:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it's it's definitely not an ideal situation. It's a there's a lot of that there are a lot of issues that could arise because of it.   Right. But   at the same time,   you know, this is why we need congress to actually get off their asses   Yeah. And change the law   if they don't want things to be the way they are. Wouldn't that be nice? Congress actually doing something? You know, it's, Well, I I that's debatable. Sometimes, I'm really happy that they don't do shit, and sometimes, I really want them to do shit. I I'm right with you. I'm right with you. It's,  

[00:31:29] Jesse Fries:

but when something actually has to be done, the machinations   of the process just bog everything down. You know? Oh, yes. Yeah.   Like, to the point that it's a standstill. You get, like, the filibuster and everything like that. It just completely   bogs everything down. You're in a   they like to talk about wars as being in a morass. You know? Well, that is a legislative process really right now. Oh, it really is.  

[00:31:55] Jamon Fries:

You know, I I think that there is one way that you could   change that. Mhmm. Just the the entire,   the entire swamp.   Right. And that would be do a constitutional   amendment   that says that the president must   enforce   every law on the books.   I I I would love it. I would love it. All of a sudden, Congress would be going hands over fist to change laws.  

[00:32:24] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly.   Yeah. No. So   yeah. The system is messed up.   And,   yeah, the system's messed up.   Yeah. It is.   And I don't have   a cure for it. You know? But No. No.   At least I know it's messed up.   Yeah. Yeah.   Let's see here. So,   just national news whatnot.   So governor Hochul from   New York.   Mhmm.   So, apparently, New York was   giving money away   to,   like, just   these were refund checks inflation refund checks, apparently.   Okay.   And so she decided she went to a black church   to,   announce this, you know, to talk to them about it.   And   for some reason, she decides to tell them,   don't just go buy booze with it.  



[00:33:27] Jamon Fries:

Oh, god.  

[00:33:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Unless you try to walk it back, but, you know, it's like  

[00:33:33] Jamon Fries:

really? You know, the only thing that would be worse than that   Uh-huh.   Is if she had gone to an Indian reservation and said just don't buy booze with it. Well, it's the same thing. Yeah. It it's like I mean, the the stereotype is No. Completely. American. No. I understand. I understand. Yeah.  

[00:33:51] Jesse Fries:

You still wanna go get your It's insane. You know? Yeah.   It's just crazy. It's like, what do you do? Yeah.   That's like a foot in the mouth disease right there. You know?   Mhmm.  

[00:34:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:34:10] Jesse Fries:

And then let's see here.   So apparently, the airlines   have been selling   our travel data to the federal government.   They've sold about five shocked about that. But No. No. Exactly. It's it's like one of these things going, I assumed   something was going on. But to actually see it, you're like going,  

[00:34:31] Jamon Fries:

oh, yeah.  

[00:34:33] Jesse Fries:

You know, it's just   yeah. So they a lot of times, it's through a third party. So they'll sell it to a third party, and then they'll sell it to the government   so that they can track us wherever we we go and everything like that. You know? It's like,   no. I'm sorry. Government shouldn't have access to that. Plain and simple. It's, Yeah. No. No. Not at all. Where I go is my business. I know that they track us. I know this. I I, you know, I just know they do, but   it should be illegal. Plain and simple.   It should be. They should have to have a warrant for it. Plain and simple. Absolutely without a doubt.   The the, yeah. Yeah. I   yep.  

Mhmm.  

[00:35:13] Jamon Fries:

Yes. And on on Wednesday, Powell announced that,   he has cut that the Federal Reserve has cut the interest rates by point 25%.   Yeah. Yeah. 25 basis points. That's like Yeah. That's kind of a weak very weak cut. Many Yeah. People were trying many people were were shooting for about a half for at least a half percent.   Right. Right. Now they   it just   he he's concerned now about the stalling job market.  

[00:35:45] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Yeah.  

[00:35:49] Jamon Fries:

Everything that I've read   from   places that he puts information out   Mhmm. Says that the way to reverse a stalling job market is by lowering interest  

[00:36:07] Jesse Fries:

rates.   Right. Right.  

[00:36:09] Jamon Fries:

Because it makes it that businesses can loan more can borrow more money   so that they can expand, which in is then increases the job market.   Yep. Yep.   So they're so, I mean, the   I I could be wrong, but what I got from this was that they only lowered it that much because of the   stalling job market.   Mhmm.   But if   correcting a stalling job market is by lowering interest rates,   that's not a reason to reduce how much you're going to reduce it by. Yeah. No. It really isn't. It really you know, I really  

[00:36:51] Jesse Fries:

I don't like the whole Fed idea. You know, I I just don't I Yeah. Yeah. It makes no sense to me. You know? It it's No.   I   why do we have this thing where they want inflation? Why why why do we have the system? They they they want inflation.  

[00:37:07] Jamon Fries:

So they keep going. I don't I mean, there there's a lot of things about the Fed that I don't really   like. Right. For example,   why is it that there is a private entity   that prints all of The US money and then loans it to the government?  

[00:37:25] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly. It makes no sense to people. How how about the government just prints it? Yeah.   Wouldn't that make more sense? You know, it's  

[00:37:36] Jamon Fries:

It would make a hell of a lot more sense. Yeah. Yeah. So, essentially, you have a private entered entity   that has full control   of the of every financial aspect of the country. Yep. Yep.   Because if they don't like how things are going, they just don't print no more money.   Or they print a shit ton of money Yep. And cause massive inflation.   No. Exactly. Exactly. They can really mess private entity though. That it  

[00:38:06] Jesse Fries:

Yep. It's always baffled me that that they did it that way. No. I I I I mean, I'm with you. Set it up that way. I'm with you. It's the bankers. The bankers wanted it. So it's,   it's what   yeah. No. I I find it messed up too. I really do. There there's so many Mhmm. When you really get into the history of it, you're like,   isn't there a better way?   Let's just do Bitcoin. Let's just I'll go to Bitcoin and just paste everything on Bitcoin. There you go. Or something. Yeah.  

[00:38:30] Jamon Fries:

Right?   Oh, anything would be better than a Federal Reserve that can just   Maybe gold.  

[00:38:37] Jesse Fries:

Maybe gold. Wouldn't that be crazy? You know? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. We did that. And then we got rid of it for whatever reason.  

[00:38:45] Jamon Fries:

Does anybody actually know why we went off to the gold reserve?  

[00:38:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Because the markets couldn't be as manipulated   as they can now.   I'm sorry. But isn't that a good thing? You would think, but no. No. Not not not to them.   To them, they wanna be able to manipulate the market   Yeah. With all these basis points and this and that and all this crap. That's what they wanna do. So, yeah, that's what   they did.   Yep. Yeah.  

[00:39:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Speaking of crazy I was very disappointed that we left the gold the gold standard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Back in the seventies. You know? Mhmm.  

[00:39:24] Jesse Fries:

So speaking of crazy,   there there there's so many aspects to this Charlie Kirk thing. You know? It it's like   but have you heard about this old guy that claimed that he was, the shooter?   Yes. I did. And and he said that he did it just so that the other guy could get away?   Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he's on obstruction of justice and everything like that.   But, also, he was into kiddie porn.  

[00:39:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's like On his phone when they was arrested, they found kiddie porn.  

[00:39:55] Jesse Fries:

It's it's like, dude, what the hell?   You know, it's Yeah.   I swear to god.  

[00:40:03] Jamon Fries:

The the the the thing I I don't know if this is the guy that they were talking about or if it was somebody else though.   Uh-huh. There was there was a guy who had been at,   at he was   there when they when   in, Pennsylvania   when they shot at Trump.   He was there   at some of   the bombings and stuff that have happened in the not   extremely distant future,   past.   He's been at, like, four or five different   very, very   interesting   times.   I haven't heard anything about that. So I do not know if Like I said, I don't know if this guy is the one that they were talking about that did that that that was that. I can't remember the Yeah. No. I understand. I understand. I I'm just saying Yeah.   There was there was one person of interest at the Charlie Kirk assassination that was also at Butler, Pennsylvania. That was also   at   I can't remember.  

The only   marathon bombing that comes to mind is the Boston marathon bombing.  

[00:41:11] Jesse Fries:

Well, that'd be completely random. But, yeah, it it's Yeah. You know, I I don't know. It's I don't think it was that one. It was another bombing of some kind, though. No. Yeah. I I what what what I'm trying to say is that that seems   if true, that that that that's crazy. But it sounds more along the lines of conspiracy theory sort of thing in my book.  

[00:41:30] Jamon Fries:

You know? No. You you can you can look at this guy's statements in the past. He made statements to the media   at Butler. He made statements to the media at this other at the at the bombing one that I was talking about. Weird. It it's it's not that he was just there and somebody saw him in the crowd. It was he was making statements to the media in all of these.   I'll have checked that out. So it's not really a conspiracy  

[00:41:54] Jesse Fries:

anymore. Well, yeah. Yeah.   As I said, I'll have to check it out. Yeah. It sounds too weird to me. It really does. You know?  

[00:42:04] Jamon Fries:

Like I like I said, you know, I saw that one in one place. So I don't know if even that story was true. No. See, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's like, okay. So that's a story out there. I I I don't  

[00:42:16] Jesse Fries:

I I would need, like, 20 sources.   You know?   Actual sources  

[00:42:22] Jamon Fries:

that Or, you know, even beyond that, I would need actual footage of the of him being interviewed at the state by  

[00:42:30] Jesse Fries:

by the media. Yeah. Just anything. Because otherwise yeah. There's there's so many conspiracy theories out there right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's   it's ridiculous.   But yeah. So but this guy liking kiddie porn, that was not a conspiracy theory. He has, he's Who? Yeah. He's   I I swear. Yeah. I I don't understand   people like that. He he's he's he's   got to have some mental issues,   wanting to let   the killer go and everything like that. Just Yep. It's all messed up, you know.   Yeah.   All messed up.   Let's see here.   What you got for international news, David?  

[00:43:10] Jamon Fries:

Well,   I actually got a few this time. Oh,   Zelensky   has publicly said that he is ready to meet with Putin.   He says that it's without preconditions, but there is one minor.  

[00:43:25] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:43:26] Jamon Fries:

What's the minor? He doesn't wanna do it in Moscow.   Oh, okay. Okay. I I can I mean, I that's a completely understandable one? You know, I wouldn't wanna do it where my enemy is,  

[00:43:37] Jesse Fries:

you know, has control of everyone around me. Yeah. Yeah. That that that that just kinda makes sense. I I I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. Yeah. A natural location is definitely ideal for something like that. Yeah. Let's let's go back to Alaska. It would work. Good work. Yeah. Absolutely.   It's,   because   Yeah. No. No. I   I'm with him on that one, like, 100%.   Yeah. Yes. It's like, yeah. You don't want to go to Moscow. You know? It it doesn't make any sense. But you have to end this killing. You have to end the killing. Definitely. You know, it was  

[00:44:11] Jamon Fries:

and And along with along with the,   Russia thing. Uh-huh.   So you remember   the stories of all the drones that Russia sent to poll to Poland? Yeah. Yeah. And they were showing that one picture of the house that supposedly   a Russian drone  

[00:44:29] Jesse Fries:

had crashed through. Right. With duct tape on it. Yeah. Yes. However,  

[00:44:35] Jamon Fries:

there was not a Russian drone that crashed into that house. Uh-huh.   It was a air to air missile that was shot by one of the Polish jets trying to take them down.   That that because of safety reasons, it didn't arm itself,   but it that's what hit the house.  

[00:44:58] Jesse Fries:

Oops.   Yeah. Yeah. You you know, it's just like in hunting. You have to know what's beyond your time. Absolutely. Yes.   This is what you have to do. You never pull the trigger unless you know absolutely what's behind what you're shooting at. Exactly. What's in front, what's the target, and what's behind the target. You have to know all these things, you know, and so   just pointing a missile at something and go,   oh my god. It it doesn't sound like a good thing, but, you know, it's a Yeah. No.  

[00:45:27] Jamon Fries:

You know, normally with normally with air to air missiles, if it if it misses its target, it'll just explode.   Right. It doesn't it doesn't come down to the ground because that's dangerous.  

[00:45:38] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:45:39] Jamon Fries:

But this one, for some reason, it actually went down to the ground. But because it was close to the ground, it disarmed itself. So Oh, that's funny. That's funny.  

[00:45:50] Jesse Fries:

Wow. Wow.  

[00:45:52] Jamon Fries:

Yep. And then the last thing I have for international news Mhmm. Is   according to the UN Commission, an inquiry   has   officially said that, Israel has committed genocide in Gaza.  

[00:46:08] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Yeah. That's nice.   So what?  

[00:46:12] Jamon Fries:

It is I just I just have one problem with that. Uh-huh.   They say that they committed four of the five acts of genocide.   Right.   One is killing members of a group.  

[00:46:27] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Yep.  

[00:46:33] Jamon Fries:

Does Hamas have the group?  

[00:46:36] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's generally it has to be, like,   a cultural group, a racial group, cultural group.   Yeah.   It it can't just be   a group. No.   Right. Yep.  

[00:46:49] Jamon Fries:

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.  

[00:46:56] Jesse Fries:

Why is that in there?  

[00:46:58] Jamon Fries:

I don't know because that would that would kinda go along with killing, I would think.   I  

[00:47:06] Jesse Fries:

that's a stupid one in my book. Yeah.  

[00:47:08] Jamon Fries:

Deliberately inflicting   conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the group in whole or in part?  

[00:47:18] Jesse Fries:

Well, they want them out of Gaza. Yeah. So   but, they can move to,   the Eastern Shore, Eastern Bay.   You know? The other part of Palestine,   that's under the And  

[00:47:33] Jamon Fries:

imposing   measures   intended to prevent   births?  

[00:47:39] Jesse Fries:

Shooting down hospitals maybe, like, blowing up hospitals. Maybe that's it. I don't know. You know? Or or or wiping out all the men.   You know? It's,   I I don't know, dude.  

[00:47:49] Jamon Fries:

They're they're saying that that it they're saying that that was true because on December 23,   they   attacked the largest fertility clinic.  

[00:47:59] Jesse Fries:

Oh, jeez.   Fertility clinic?   Yes. So these people can't have babies anyways. What does it matter?   Not to be harsh, but I'm just 4,000 embryos and 1,000 sperm samples. Yeah.   That's just stoop   that's stupid. I'm sorry. No. No.   So so so a very small segment of the population. Don't get me wrong. I feel for you if you can't have a baby. I know that that that that that that that that's a massive thing for you. But   on the grand scheme of things as a population,   that is a small part of the population.   Yes. Most people can have kids.   You know? It's just The fact that  

[00:48:41] Jamon Fries:

Hamas   has been known   to utilize   schools, hospitals,   and mosques   Mhmm.   As their headquarters,   Israel's at war. Their job is to take out Hamas, which means you take out their headquarters.   Yep. If they're using a fertility clinic as a headquarter,   I'm sorry, but the fertility clinic is not gonna be there anymore.  

[00:49:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. No. See, that's the thing. It's like Hamas hides everywhere, you know. And, you know, technically   see   no.   To me, the one thing that completely changes the whole thing. It doesn't matter. Hamas   attacked. It wasn't Israel that attacked. It was Hamas that attacked.   Yeah. And that right there, that that's the end of the story.   Yeah. Be be because   you attack,   that means you're willing to be wiped off the face of the planet. I'm just saying, otherwise, you don't attack. You  

[00:49:39] Jamon Fries:

know, it's And the the, deliberate inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the destruction of the group on whole or in part   Mhmm. They brought that one in because they hit the hospitals.   Denial of access to medical services.   See,   they but, again, Hamas is using the hospitals as as their headquarters.  

[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:

This whole this whole idea of The U of what the UN says is genocide in my book is just pure crap. You know? It's Yeah.   It's there have been very few genocides on this planet.   Yep. Hitler,   the one that where genocide was coined for, you know, because of what he did against the Jews and everything like that.   To me, I would still debate the Stalin one with Ukraine. I I would I would debate it. I'm sorry.   I I I,   yeah, I would debate. I I haven't seen maybe there's new literature that shows that he actually wanted to   wipe Ukrainians off the face of the planet.  

Right. But I in all my master's work and everything like that history and everything like that, I didn't see anything that actually proved that he that it was, like,   a deliberate act of wanting to get rid of a people. You know? Right.  

[00:50:55] Jamon Fries:

And then at the same time, I've I've I've seen many things that I would personally consider closer to a genocide  

[00:51:02] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:51:03] Jamon Fries:

That if if memory serves, we're not called genocides.   The Serbia war.   I believe that is genocide. I believe it was. Yeah. I I I couldn't I couldn't remember off the top of my head if they'd ever classified that. I think they did.  

[00:51:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I think they did. Okay. They'll classify pretty much anything nowadays as genocide. Yeah. That's true. It's,   it it's   to me, it's lost its   you know? It it's not   Yeah.   You know, it's like   Hitler and the Ukrainians, you know, of old original, like, genocide people. You know? It's like they didn't attack anybody.   No. They were just systematically wiped out.   You know? It's not   it's not this whole   Hamas attack. I I I it just goes back to that for me. Just 100% goes back to that, you know? And the people of Gaza, they voted Hamas in. They knew what Hamas was. They knew what Hamas was doing. They knew Hamas was building tunnels on their house. They knew this. There's article Yeah. Article proving this. Yeah. Absolutely.   And so they did.  

So whatever happens to them, literally, like,   you would hope that you could save some of them, but in all essence, they did it to themselves, and they attacked. Yeah. That's it. And I and I would argue that the true  

[00:52:26] Jamon Fries:

genocidal,   thought   is on the part of Hamas. No. Yeah. Yeah. And the river You know, I yeah. I hate I I don't like classifying all Palestinians   as as such, but that is a standard   Palestinian chant  

[00:52:43] Jesse Fries:

from the river to the sea. I would say Gazans, not necessarily   because yes. It's a lot of the Palestinian prevalent in the PLA as well a little bit. Yeah. It is. But at least they didn't vote in Hamas, you know. I'm just Right. Right. You you you know, it's   they they're they're a bit more moderate. I can understand having bad feelings. I really can't. I can understand wanting to land back. I can understand all these things. But Yeah. To just wanna wipe out and then you attack and then you expect everybody to go, oh, you   I'm so sorry that you got knocked on your ass after you decided to hit somebody. You you you know, it it's Exactly. Yeah. It's basically what it is. You know? It's like when I was in high school, there was this kid. He he   I don't know why even. He just came up to me and, like, pushed me a little bit and started getting my face, and so I just shoved him to the locker. That's it. Then I kept walking. You know? It's like Yeah.  

They've   Exactly. And over it. Hamas won't take it. Hamas will just keep growing and coming back, trying to get more arms and attacking and gain more arms and attacking, getting more arms and attacking.   So at what point do you just say   enough is enough?   You know? It's,   yeah.  

[00:53:58] Jamon Fries:

Okay. So I just looked it up in the Bosnian war.   They didn't classify the entire   part of the entire war as genocide. They but they did classify   certain individual   acts as genocide.  

[00:54:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we which is like, okay.  

[00:54:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's Whereas now, they're saying that basically the whole war is just genocide.  

[00:54:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Even though Hamas started it. Yeah. It's stupid. It it really is stupid. I I I really don't.   You pick a fight. You you you   it just goes back to that. You just don't pick a fight if you can't win the fight. It's Yep.   You bet.   Yeah.  

[00:54:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And, you know, that that's one thing about Israel is that   that everyone around them should know.   Yeah.   Yeah. That's not a fight you've ever been able to win.  

[00:54:54] Jesse Fries:

No. No. But you you you don't They tried a couple of times and failed miserably.   Yeah. See, it's you could also use another analogy with this, though.   Kinda, like, it'd be more against Israel on this where it's like, you have the fight. Right?   And and you beat them. Right? Yep. And then you keep beating them. And then you keep beating them. And then you keep beating them. Yeah.   You know,   in in just regular law, there comes a point where   if you don't stop,   you are breaking the law.   Right. Yes. But guess what, people? This is not there's no law technically. It's an international sphere   that land is controlled by Israel to begin with.  

Yep.   They just allow the Palestinians to be there.   Yeah. And not be part of the Israelis.   Yep. So I   I I don't really know what to do with that. You you know, it's   Yeah.  

[00:55:49] Jamon Fries:

It's a school year overall. It it's well, you know, it it's it's like everything there. It's so freaking confusing.  

[00:55:57] Jesse Fries:

It is. It really is.   Because like you said,  

[00:56:01] Jamon Fries:

it is still part of Israel.  

[00:56:04] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Israel won it in war.   Yes.  

[00:56:09] Jamon Fries:

So But at the same time,   well, they   they I think they had owned it before the the original war, then Egypt took it, and then they took it back.  

[00:56:22] Jesse Fries:

Well, there have been many different wars and everything like that. Yeah. It's   it's basically all that they have, it was gained in war at some point. Yes. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:56:33] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm. And   but the fact that,   you know, it it's just confusing because Israel   doesn't control it as if it's their own land, but yet it's still classified as their own land.  

[00:56:47] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. It   it it it's a tough situation. You know? It really is.   And, you know, it just goes back to the British deciding to draw lines in the Middle East for fun. You know?  

[00:57:00] Jamon Fries:

Well, it and it wasn't even just drawing lines in the Middle East.   The problem is is that they promised the same land to three different groups. Well no. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:57:10] Jesse Fries:

There's so many yeah. We we we did go back the British really have screwed over a lot of the world.   Oh. Big time. Yes.   The the current Brits, they're a bit   weak. But,   yeah, they they're old ancestors. They they were some crazy people.  

[00:57:28] Jamon Fries:

Yes. They were really crazy. They they would make promises   that no one could ever keep. Yep. Nope.   Exactly. And that's what leads to this kind of situation.  

[00:57:41] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep.   Let's see here. Let's get to I don't care about Paul, really. Basically Yeah. Young people came up   and they did stuff.  

[00:57:51] Jamon Fries:

They overthrew the government. The re the overthrow of the government was completely  

[00:57:55] Jesse Fries:

a a youth organization. Yeah. Yeah. And then there was there was a vote on Discord.   Yep.   Which it's funny how that keeps making the news lately.  

[00:58:06] Jamon Fries:

But  

[00:58:07] Jesse Fries:

and then the military goes, okay. That vote is valid. So that's different.   Yeah.   That's different. That's different. That's a little different. Yeah. But, yeah, before we get to the business side, let's talk about our business here at the Mindless Meanderds. We are a value for value podcast,   which means that we need your help any which way you can.   If   you got any value out of this podcast, please send us whatever you think that value is worth to you, whether it's a dollar, $50,   $20,   doesn't matter. It could be any amount. $3, you know, per episode. I think that might be worth it. You know? Maybe not some people.   But, yeah, just send us what you can. If you wanna help out with different ideas and everything like that, please, send them our way. You can email me @jesseatmindlessc.com,   or you can email jamen@jamenatmindlessmeanderings.com.  

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[00:59:48] Jamon Fries:

Is it gonna just be a branch of TikTok or all of TikTok total?  

[00:59:53] Jesse Fries:

It would be the American side of it. Okay. Yep.  

[00:59:58] Jamon Fries:

That's   interesting.  

[01:00:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And it is. Interest. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see if it happens. I don't know. Yeah.   Wonder if it'll destroy the app.   You you know, because it it's like, would it be two different things, or will they, like,   just transfer,   like, the international TikToks? You know? I I love those. You know? And so if it gets broken into two different spheres,   it's like, what's the point? You know? Yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[01:00:26] Jamon Fries:

And   unfortunately, I can kind of see this going   in the wrong direction as well  

[01:00:33] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:00:34] Jamon Fries:

In that   countries   may start mandating   that   any   program   has to be separated by the country, has to be owned by people within the country. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that either. I really don't. Yeah. I could I I honestly could see that happening though. I could see   the EU saying that   Facebook   has to sell   all of the EU as areas   to someone in the EU.  

[01:01:05] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah.  

[01:01:09] Jamon Fries:

It would suck. So, I mean, it's it's starting a very, very dangerous principle, I think.  

[01:01:14] Jesse Fries:

No. I could see that.   Slippery slope, all that fun stuff. You never know where it's gonna lead. Yep. Yep.   Big news, though, coming out of New York.   So,   Luigi   Mangione,   the   UnitedHealthcare   CEO,   assassin.   Well, he is Alleged so far? Alleged. Yes. Yes. Yes. Alleged assassin.   But, apparently, the state threw out, terrorism charges.   Nice. Okay. So it's just it's still murder charge and everything like that. Right. It's like, the judge was like, oh, who was he trying to strike a fear into? He wasn't trying to strike a fear into   most everybody, you know.  

Okay. So he was trying to strike a fear into CEOs? That's a very small subset of this Not not only CEOs, but CEOs of health insurance companies. Exactly.  

[01:02:10] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. You know? You're you're talking maybe 10 people? Right. That's not terrorism.  

[01:02:15] Jesse Fries:

No. It really isn't. It really isn't. So, you know, it's,   yeah. I I I don't understand the terrorism charge. You know, I think the Fed is because this is state level, I think the Fed still has a terrorism charge.   And I think I think these   laws are so vague   that basically anybody can be thrown up on terrorism charges.   Yeah. They are. As long as   the government hates you. You know? It's,   yeah.  

[01:02:44] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Absolutely.   Mhmm.  

[01:02:46] Jesse Fries:

And then we have a whole bunch of science stuff, it looks like. We do. We have a surprisingly  

[01:02:51] Jamon Fries:

amount of science stuff. Yeah.   I will start it off.   We'll just start at the top for mine. Uh-huh.   All of you people out here out there who   say that marijuana is safe, it doesn't affect anyone in any way, shape, or form at all. Right.   Yeah. No. No. Studies have been proving that wrong,   especially when it comes to fertility.  

[01:03:19] Jesse Fries:

Oh, really? Okay.  

[01:03:21] Jamon Fries:

Yes. So it's it's widely accepted and known   that for men,   they recommend that you stop smoking pot about three months before   you want to conceive.   Okay. Because it   it,   makes it so that the production of sperm is greatly reduced.  

[01:03:42] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. So so so that's just like the pill. So, you know Yeah. It works. Perfect. I'll just start smoking pot.  

[01:03:51] Jamon Fries:

For women though, it's different. Uh-huh.   And the reason is is because with men, we   create our sperm   over time. It it it just, you know, it's Yeah. New stuff all the time. Created by in the in the testes.   Whereas with women, what the effect that it has on women   is it prematurely   ages   the cell.   It it activates   it activates it so that it   becomes   fertile   earlier.  

[01:04:24] Jesse Fries:

That's no good.  

[01:04:26] Jamon Fries:

The other thing that it does I mean, in in some cases, that's actually good. Right. Because the,   all of the fertility drugs and stuff like that out there, what they do is instead of just one egg becoming mature Right. It matures a a group of eggs. Right. Right.   However,   it has the now the this is just a very small study that was done. And, again, you know, we do need to say that   studies are inaccurate and sometimes wrong. We know this because there was a study that said so. Yeah. Not just sometimes, Jim. You you you always say, it's a lot of studies   are wrong. It's not just You know what we should do then, Jesse? We we should we should just create   a sound bite We should. We should. Yes. That that just says this because I'm gonna say it different than you say it. No. I understand. But and then I always have to stress that. Yep. Yep.  

But,   so there was a, this this one lady in Canada where   pot was legalized kind of earlier than most other places.   The   where she did a she worked at a at an IVF clinic,   and she did tests on the eggs that women   that women had, and she found   THC   in eggs from sixty two of the women   Uh-huh.   Out of a thousand women. So it's a pretty low number. But,   what she found though is that   while they were artificially   matured,   they also   had the wrong number of chromosomes.   Oy. That's no good. They often had the wrong number of chromosomes, which can lead to failure to form embryos,   unsuccessful uterine implantation,   and nonviable pregnancies.  



[01:06:22] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[01:06:24] Jamon Fries:

So even though it matures the egg early, it's an egg that's even if it's fertilized, it's not going to attach   to the   to the placenta   in many cases.  

[01:06:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's So  

[01:06:40] Jamon Fries:

it it's so I mean,   that's a pretty huge impact. And unlike men,   if you smoked if a woman smoked pot thirty years ago   Uh-huh.   Her eggs could still be bad.  

[01:06:58] Jesse Fries:

Wow. That's rough.   Yeah.   That is really rough. That sucks.   That really sucks. So  

[01:07:06] Jamon Fries:

according to this study  

[01:07:08] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:07:10] Jamon Fries:

We have another really good reason to avoid smoking marijuana.  

[01:07:14] Jesse Fries:

There you go. Well, not not just smoking, but even even eating the gummy Well, edibles. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Taking in TDC. Okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense.   So,   apparently,   you know, they say that,   how how they for a long time,   given childbirth and everything that you were talking about, you know, it's a they were always saying how, like,   women   or men can't deal with pain as well as women. Right? Yeah.   Apparently, that's not really the case.   Yeah. It it really isn't. It's like, actually, when it comes to chronic pain and everything like that, women actually feel it more and actually have more issues with chronic pain than men do.   Oh, okay.  

Like like, say, women have more migraines. They have   men have a few other things like that, but,   how you experience the pain and everything like that is different. And   it's like with migraines, apparently,   what they used to do is they would always test,   on men. Right?   Right. Because this is this is how science works for some reason. I don't know. They they love to be misogynistic   about their science, which just doesn't make sense. But they they would even only use, like, male rats,   right, for their studies and everything. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, there was there was this one drug. It was, for   migraines and everything like that. They go, okay. Well Okay. Maybe this drug will work because it affects this part of the brain and everything like that. And we've seen that,   that can affect some people with migraines. Well,   it didn't help the male mice at all. Not a single bit. Right?  

And so they go, oh, that that drug doesn't work. And then after some time, they go, how about we run it with both genders   of mice?   And it really worked for the female mice, but not the male mice.   Interesting. And so there are certain things that   where   women feel different pain than men, you know. And Yeah. And so they've actually found drugs now that for migraines   that affect women more than men anyways.   And they actually help women, but they do nothing for a man with migraine. Not a thing, really. Interesting.  

[01:09:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I found that It just goes to it just goes to prove that there's another difference between men and women. I know. You know, everybody  

[01:09:37] Jesse Fries:

nobody was like, oh, why would there be difference in how pain is registered or   apparently, it goes down to that level.   And this is seen   in, like, every animal.   It's not just humans. Yeah. It's, like, seen throughout every animal.   Okay. Women are just literally wired differently  

[01:09:57] Jamon Fries:

than men. It's kind of that that is so weird that that it's awesome, but that's weird. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:10:04] Jesse Fries:

It is quite fascinating, isn't it? It's  

[01:10:07] Jamon Fries:

I I never would have thought that we feel pain differently.  

[01:10:11] Jesse Fries:

We do. But we do. I always thought that it was just like a tolerance to the pain. Yeah. No. No. It's not. We feel pain differently. You know? It's Uh-huh.   Isn't that fascinating?  

[01:10:22] Jamon Fries:

That is very fascinating. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So  

[01:10:26] Jesse Fries:

who knew?   Yeah.  

[01:10:31] Jamon Fries:

So there there was another study that was done Uh-huh.  

[01:10:36] Jesse Fries:

That  

[01:10:38] Jamon Fries:

I I find very interesting, you know, with my diet and stuff like that. I I read a lot about eating and everything else like that. Right.   Well, this study says   that   the amount of time that you're eating throughout the day  

[01:10:55] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:10:57] Jamon Fries:

Can actually affect your longevity.   Interesting. So if you eat all of your meals   in less than eight hours in a day  

[01:11:09] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:11:11] Jamon Fries:

It's dangerous for you.   It it can affect your longevity.   Also,   if you eat your meals if you're eating food for more than a fifteen hour period in the day Right.   It's also detrimental to longevity. It's a it's a u shaped curve. The sweet spot is right about twelve hours.  

[01:11:32] Jesse Fries:

So you wanna, like,   basically have breakfast at, like, seven and then eat supper at seven?   Yeah.   Basically. Yes.   Interesting.   Interesting.  

[01:11:44] Jamon Fries:

That that that's the sweet spot for the lowest impact on longevity   according to this study.  

[01:11:53] Jesse Fries:

It is quite fascinating. It is. Yes. So  

[01:11:57] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. I mean, I can kind of understand the over fifteen hours. Right. Right. Because you do need to give your body a downtime to process everything properly. Right. Right. But I never would have thought that the less than eight hours would it would be that big of an impact. Yeah. I wouldn't think so either. Because there's a lot of people that only eat one meal a day sometimes. Yeah. I eat two. I eat lunch and supper, and technically Yeah. Falls under the eight.  

[01:12:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   So yeah. Interesting.  

[01:12:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That that's   I saw it, and I'm like, damn.  

[01:12:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I'm killing myself.   Yeah. I know. I know. Just like apparently, if you're too skinny,   you have you you're you're you won't have as good of a longevity   as if you're overweight   or obese, actually. Really?   Yep. Yep. At least a the Goldilocks,   for BMI   is actually twenty two point five to twenty five. So that's the upper normal.   Okay.   Lower normal,   to   which is eighteen point five to 20, that one is not so good.   And you're   even if you're in the middle range of twenty to twenty two BMI Yeah. Apparently, you it's significantly more likely to die than those in the upper normal.   Well, they are. And then if you're   underweight,   in the lower end of the BMI, you're nearly three times more likely to die.  



[01:13:29] Jamon Fries:

Holy crap.  

[01:13:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile over. Did did they say Yeah. I was just about to get that. Okay. The the article I'll just read it here. Meanwhile, people classified as overweight, 25 to thirty, or even moderately obese, 30 to thirty five, didn't show increased mortality at all compared to upper normal peers.  

[01:13:48] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:13:50] Jesse Fries:

That's where the fat but fit concept   comes to play. Yeah. When being heavier isn't necessarily a death sentence   if other factors are in check. So, yeah, basically, it's   if you're too so so you wanna be in that sweet spot above,   on the upper end of normal and then into I I've seen this, though, before too. You know? I've seen where the ones that have a little bit of padding generally will last long. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They they they they're better health wise  

[01:14:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Than people that are skinny as bones usually. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So Yeah. So so, basically, what what that study is saying, if I'm interpreting this right, is you don't wanna be on the low end.   Completely. And you don't wanna be morbidly obese. You want there's a there's  

[01:14:36] Jesse Fries:

a bigger sweet spot than many people would have thought to them. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. They they don't say it in there. Like,   like, they don't, like, hype it. But they said basically   from, from about what was it? About from about twenty two point five BMI   up to about thirty five BMI.   Okay.   Because it says   because it said that there was no increase of mortality   in those upper years of the Yeah. Moderately obese even.   Yeah. So it it's it's that range right there. They don't go above that. Maybe   there's an issue there. Maybe I don't know what it would be. But, well, I mean, there is a reason that they call it morbidly obese. No. Complete. Complete. But, yeah, just just obese and overweight.   Yeah. It's the same thing as   the upper normal.  

So there you go. Look at that. Interesting. That's pretty cool. It is. It is.  

[01:15:36] Jamon Fries:

Talking about health again. Uh-huh.   There have been some people that have been working with an AI system   that can forecast   your health future  

[01:15:48] Jesse Fries:

Sure. Just like the weather. Well, I can't do the weather. So  

[01:15:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. They they said that they you you input all of your   all of your data, all of your test results, and everything else like that into this AI system.   And it'll,   like, throw out numbers, like, you have a ten percent chance of having a heart attack   in the next year.   And, apparently, I guess, roughly ten percent of the that ten percent seems to be somewhat accurate. Right. Right.   So they're they're saying that that with with more input and with further work, AI   may be able to   stretch out further   and say, well, okay. So you like   you're you're gonna   have this happen to now I don't now this is only for   things that you can test for. This isn't for,   sudden things. You know? Okay. Yep.  

So it it has to have a medical   framing and a medical back  

[01:16:54] Jesse Fries:

Oh. That lid.  

[01:16:56] Jamon Fries:

Sorry about that, guys.   I accidentally hit the wrong button.   Yeah. Yeah. Sure.   Oops.   But,   the you know, so so they they foresee a time when AI can predict,   you know, years into the future, like, ten, fifteen, twenty years into the future. Mhmm.   My only problem with this is   can you imagine health insurance companies?   Oh, yeah. Access this information.   Uh-huh. You go to the hospital because something's wrong with you, and you're like, well, no. AI says in five years, you're probably gonna die of a heart attack anyways.  

[01:17:36] Jesse Fries:

So we're not gonna do that. No. Yeah. Gonna pay for that. It's definitely gonna happen. They're probably doing it already, and we don't even know it. Probably. Yeah.   You know? There's there's yeah. No. The health care company   let's get back to paying cash. I swear to God. I totally agree. To gain It's cheaper. It's cheaper. Exactly. You don't need all these extra steps. We don't have to pay for health insurance people, whole companies,   all their buildings. We don't have to pay for it. Guess what? It'd be cheaper.  

[01:18:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yep. Let's get rid of it. You know, the let's just I I would I would agree with, like, having a, like, an, health savings account type thing set up. Oh, yeah. I'm fine. Where   where where the where you can put money into it to save for future  

[01:18:23] Jesse Fries:

things that have to be Right. Right. Yeah.  

[01:18:26] Jamon Fries:

You know, that way because   instant, you know, if you suddenly have a heart attack and you go into the hospital and you're got all the stuff that comes afterwards,   it can be tough financially for a lot of people. Oh, yeah. Completely. And so something like an HSA, I completely agree with that concept. No. Yeah. But insurance itself, no. Because all they do is they artificially inflate the prices of everything.  

[01:18:49] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Just like, vet care now has skyrocketed because they have insurance for pets now. You know? It's just Oh my god. Yeah.   So, yeah, instead of just putting down your dog because it has cancer, you decide to spend $56,000   on   whatever.   Yeah. I guess if that's what you wanna do, that's what you wanna do, but your money. Yep. Right. Yep.   Yep. So, apparently,   nonpoor,   straight,   people   are happier   than, the LGBTQ   and poor people.   Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They just,   they did a study   because you'd be all know it's reliable.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But yeah. And they checked   the the youth and everything like that. And, yeah, it's just if they're straight,   sis, and just   not poor where they're not having to worry about their next meal.  

They're actually very happy. It's the LGBTQ   and   the   yeah. That that or and, generally, mostly them, that are having rental issues.   Yeah. So which which is sad. It's sad. But It it is very sad. Yes. Well, yeah. It's   my I'm shocked by that finding, though. No. I'm not shocked by it either. I'm not shocked by it either. Just wonder why. You know? It's like Yeah.   Is it   yeah. No. It's so many reasons. You know? They they   you you we could speculate, but I don't wanna speculate. But, yeah, I just found it kinda interesting   Yeah. On that. Yeah. Yeah. It is.  



[01:20:38] Jamon Fries:

There's a new device being created.   Uh-huh.   A handheld   bone printer.  

[01:20:45] Jesse Fries:

Oh, sweet.  

[01:20:47] Jamon Fries:

So it's like the Except the SIF element? Really not.   Oh,   okay. It it eventually will be.   The technology   hasn't been invented yet. They've just kind of threw together a,   quick thing to test, to test on animals with. Uh-huh.   They used a hot glue gun.   They they modified the hot glue gun so that it came out at a much lower temperature because at the temperature of the hot glue gun, it would have killed all tissue around it. Right. Right. Right. But,   no. On rabbits, what they've found is that   if they   if they it's a combination of a couple of different things. There's,   there's   something that naturally,   degrades within, like, five to six years or something like that. Mhmm.  

And then something else that promotes the healing of the bone.  

[01:21:50] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[01:21:51] Jamon Fries:

But with fractures,   they they've only tested it with fractures. They they haven't tested it with compound breaks yet.   But they were able to put this onto the fracture,   and it made it so that it was instantly stronger so you could eat so that the animal could use the limb again. Cool.   And it promoted a faster   repair of the bone.   Oh, nice. Nice.  

[01:22:17] Jesse Fries:

So so   so it's not like the fifth element, you know, where they're making No. No. No. Not yet. Not yet. Oh, that was cool.   I don't know.  

[01:22:25] Jamon Fries:

It's not like the fifth element or like Star Trek where you run the scanner over it and the bone is fixed and stuff like that. Right. Right. No. It we're not to that point yet, but   they do foresee   a possibility   of getting there.   They just have to develop a printer small enough to be utilized in that manner.  

[01:22:46] Jesse Fries:

Nice. Nice.  

[01:22:48] Jamon Fries:

Like, the what they say is they could see a time in the in the hopefully not too distant future   where a doctor picks up something that's shaped like a pen Mhmm. And just runs it along the fracture of the bone.  

[01:23:03] Jesse Fries:

That'd be cool.  

[01:23:04] Jamon Fries:

And you can also input,   antibacterial   stuff in there to to prevent infection.   Mhmm.   The they compared   healing with using this to just the standard,   the standard procedures that are used now.   Right. And the rate there there was ninety nine percent of non in of non infection rate in the new procedure. Mhmm. Whereas the older procedure doesn't have nearly that high of a of   a   not having infect not getting infected due to due to everything.   Nice. So,   I mean, it's a   pretty  

[01:23:44] Jesse Fries:

awesome thing, I think. No. It really is. That is cool. That is cool.  

[01:23:49] Jamon Fries:

I just love that it's a hot glue gun   Yeah. Right now.  

[01:23:55] Jesse Fries:

You you know, it's pretty close to how, the oldest mummies they just found the oldest mummies in the world. And it's actually pretty close to how they actually preserve those bodies.   Yeah. Yeah. They use smoke, so they basically had a barbecue.   They   smelled them nice. They smoke dried them over fire.   And these go sense?   Yeah. These things go actually go back   about 14,000   years.   Damn.   The Egypt ones are only about, 4,500   years old. Yeah. So yeah. These yeah. It it's   the Neolithic   era, which Neolithic means new stone era. Mhmm.   And yeah. So   if you look at these pictures, they're quite some of them are quite disturbing, and you can tell that they were smoked.  

But   It it definitely preserves the body, though. Yeah. Yeah. This is in, China and Southeast Asia. So Okay.   Yep. Yep.  

[01:24:57] Jamon Fries:

Kinda interesting there.   Yeah. Yeah. It is.  

[01:25:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay. And then onto two fun stories. Do you have anything else, Jayman?   No. That's all I have. Okay. Okay. Well, the two fun stories.   Let's see.   Trying to figure out which one to do.   Let's start with a Bridget Macron.   So   have you heard this whole thing on social media and whatnot where and then Candace Owens and everything like that? They they they keep telling Quest questioning her true gender. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They keep saying that she she's she's a man and everything like that.   You you you know, it it's   there's different ways to handle things. And, you know, I've seen the same thing for longer   go on about Michelle Obama. I don't know why. Oh, yeah. Don't get me wrong. I think it's wrong and everything like that. But I've seen it go   more on that than the Macron one.  

Right. And Michelle Obama has handled it beautifully as in Oh, yeah. She she's she's handled it superbly. She doesn't even   acknowledge it. It's not even a thing. You know, see, that's the way you should do it. Yeah. Macron, on the other hand, she's suing Candace Owens and all these people.   And not only that, it this is in US court. She's suing them.   And she says, I'm gonna provide proof. So now she's gonna provide proof that she's a woman.   It's like,   you could've just let it go. Oh my god. You could've just let it go, but you couldn't. You know,   it it's like, now it's just more of a spectacle. If she if she if they hadn't  

[01:26:37] Jamon Fries:

done what they did to the local reporters that that started the story,   Candace Owens never would've picked up on it. Yeah.  

[01:26:45] Jesse Fries:

It would have been nothing. It was probably some joke somebody did and then all of a sudden it ballooned into what it is. But they responded and sued them and suddenly Candace is like,   Yeah. That's an interesting story. Yeah. And and once you get old, you you you Yeah.   Men and women, if you shave everybody,   take off their hair,   it'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between some men and some women as they Oh, yeah. Get that old. It's like babies. It's just like babies. You can't tell if you shave them,   well,   what they are.  

You know? It's just   you you you can't tell the difference because   yeah. You just can't. And so Yeah. Yeah. So she she's going off the deep end with this one just like Mhmm.   Wanting to   prove that she's a woman. You don't need to prove it,   miss McCrone. You don't. Or Madame McCrone. You don't have to prove it. Just just just ignore it and go on with your life.  

[01:27:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I do really like how Michelle Obama has handled it.   Especially since most of it most of what keeps it alive   is   AI is AI altered  

[01:28:01] Jesse Fries:

things. Completely.  

[01:28:02] Jamon Fries:

Completely. Yeah. You know, I mean Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Michelle Obama dancing in a loose fit dress with something bouncing around between her legs. Do you know that's bullshit? Exactly. You know that's AI. It's all bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's  

[01:28:19] Jesse Fries:

yeah.   Macron should have gone down that path, but, apparently, Madam Yes. Macron could not. So Yep. That's kinda fun to say. Madame McCrone. Madame McCrone. Yeah. That's kinda fun to say. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Speaking on the other side of the pond as well, so there's this UK teacher. This story is a bit old. It's, like, from July, but I thought it was hilarious. I hadn't heard about it. Okay. So there's this teacher. She was   she's   accused of chugging booze   in in class, like vodka or or or some sort of fruity,   hard mixture of alcohol.  

And she got, like, toasted drunk. Right? Like, literally,   as the Brits would say, she was pissed. Right? Uh-huh.   And she started hurling curse words at students   during the lesson.   And and she interrupted the lesson   by making them dance the Macarena.   Hey, Macarena.   She also called the students little shits, you know.   It's like,   I I could see that. Come on. They they probably were little shits too. You know?  

[01:29:30] Jamon Fries:

Is there a single adult out there a single adult out there that doesn't at some point in their in their life call children little shits? Right. Right. Exactly.  

[01:29:40] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. And then at one point, she, like, flipped   some girl off, like, three inches from her face. Just flipped her the bird.  

[01:29:51] Jamon Fries:

You know,   I I I will say,   you have to wonder just what the   atmosphere for teachers is if they have to drink to get through it.  

[01:30:07] Jesse Fries:

It's rough, dude. It's rough. You you know I can only imagine. I mean,  

[01:30:11] Jamon Fries:

especially young kids.  

[01:30:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But as every teacher knows, she is a true hero to everybody that has ever taught.   And with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us for episode 63   of the Mindless Mean Irons podcast.   I'm Jesse Fries, and I'm Jamin Pries, and we will see you on Monday.