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A live recoded roaming conversation between brothers covering Tariffs, Supreme Court, and a Sex Doll.

Hosted by:

- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:19) Introduction

(00:00:34) Governor's Veto on Food Stamps Bill

(00:04:10) Political Maneuvering in State Elections

(00:09:06) Discussion on Tariffs and Economic Impact

(00:17:47) Stock Market Reactions to Tariffs

(00:24:05) Tariffs and Consumer Prices

(00:31:56) Egg Prices and Consumer Behavior

(00:39:56) Presidential Powers and Court Cases

(00:47:51) Retail Closures for Easter

(00:58:53) Media and Clickbait Headlines

(01:07:05) Cultural Tensions in the UK

(01:14:05) Russia's Secretive Satellite Launches

(01:24:15) Scientific and Technological Advances

(01:35:55) Harriet Tubman Website Controversy

(01:40:26) German Police Mistake Sex Doll for Body

Show Notes:

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[00:00:19] Jesse Fries:

Good morning. It is Wednesday,   April 9, it looks like, and we are live with episode number 32 of the Mindless Meanderings.   I'm Jesse Fries,   and, literally, I have no clue what to say this morning.  

[00:00:34] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries, and   I am very shocked by something that our governor did.  

[00:00:41] Jesse Fries:

What?  

[00:00:43] Jamon Fries:

She vetoed a bill   that well, she vetoed six of them and allowed two to pass without signing off on them.   But one of the bills that she vetoed   was a bill that I have been hoping and praying for so long that someone would finally do.   Mhmm. That made it so that food stamps would not pay for candy and soft drinks.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.   We the Kansas legislature tried to pass a bill saying that that food stamps wouldn't pay for those, and the governor vetoed it saying   that it would   hinder   the ability of people to feed their children   if they did this.  

I don't know. Any parent that's feeding their kid candy and soft drinks as the as their primary nutrition   is kinda screwed up to begin with.  

[00:01:38] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. This basically boils down to lobbies, if you ask me. It's Yeah.   The the the Coke and   sugar companies like that, you know, they have a lot of lobbies in these things, and   they earn a lot of money off of the government They really do. Yes.   Off these things. So, yeah, that's probably really what it is. You know? It's,   yeah. I I I wanna see why that'd be issue. Okay. Maybe keep Kool Aid on there. You know? Who cares? Have some sweet little thing, but, like, pop come Right. Right. But, I mean,   why   is it expensive it is.  



[00:02:14] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No kidding. But why would anybody think that buying Kit Kats or Twix or Twizzlers   is good for your children?  

[00:02:24] Jesse Fries:

That I mean, it No. I understand. I understand. Snap snap is meant to  

[00:02:30] Jamon Fries:

feed your children nutritional  

[00:02:32] Jesse Fries:

food. Yes. Yes. It it it it's if you wanna give them a treat, that's fine. No issue with that. Just do it out of your own pocket. Plain and simple. Yeah. You know? I mean, I've I've seen so many parents that that are paying with food stamps  

[00:02:44] Jamon Fries:

that   they go around and, I mean, their cart is full of, like,   sodas   and   just all sorts of stuff that just it it's not healthy.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. No.   It's  

[00:03:03] Jesse Fries:

yeah. It makes sense. It would make sense for the if you're doing food stamps, it's basically just for food, for the staples, you know. Yeah. To me, I that's what I always thought it was, you know. It's,   but then, like, box macaroni isn't really all that great for you. Well, no. I mean,  

[00:03:21] Jamon Fries:

there there's a lot of foods that aren't good for you, but at least they have some nutritional value. You know? The only thing that the only thing that candy and pop give you is just sugar. That's it. Nothing else. Well, calories. Yeah. Yeah. It gives you calories. Yeah. That's about it. You know? And then sugar crashes. It also gives you sugar crashes. That it does. Yes.   Yeah. What part of part of what she said is that, changes to SNAP should be made at the federal level, not at the state level.  

[00:03:51] Jesse Fries:

The what?   It can be done at both. Can't it? It it Yeah. It can.  

[00:03:56] Jamon Fries:

I mean, the the federal   the federal just provides the money. It doesn't put it doesn't put limitations on what the money goes for. That's the states.   Right. Right. I mean, in most cases. So I don't know.  

[00:04:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That is weird.   Well, speaking of states, let let let's go go I have a couple stories about states and whatnot.   Okay.   Let's see here. So my governor,   Greg Abbott,   he recently,   there there there's a Democratic,   like, heavily Democratic,   district here in Texas,   that,   the rep died. And so it's an open seat right now. There's no representation   for it right now.   And so   he he he decided to go well, we'll we'll we'll just push off that special election until November because   the county it's in, Harris County, can't be trusted   to actually get it right. He he he said they mess up so much anyways   that, we're just gonna push it off.  

This was his reasoning. You know?   To me, it's pure political bullshit. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   Tit for tat sort of situation. You know? It's just like there's a New York seat   for   where was it? Who was it for? It was,   she was up for, UN ambassador,   for The United States, and then, Trump removed her nomination.   Okay. But, basically, right there, that is a completely safe Republican seat. Right? Yeah. But the governor of New York, Hochul,   she completely was pushing that off saying, no. We can wait until November.   So it's like   so Oh, yeah. So Definitely tit for tat then. It's a tit for tat. It is a normal political   maneuver. You know? It's just and each side, of course, complains about it and everything like that. But, yeah, it's just a normal political maneuver   that they do. So yep.  

Yeah. That rep was, Elise Stefanik   Stefanik,   up in New York. But,   yeah, it's just normal. Just normal politics.   Oh, yeah. And and then we had the governor or the mayor of New York City,   Adams.   So remember he was, like, under investigation, then the Trump   administration wanted to   stop or wanted to dismiss the case.  

[00:06:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. But they did help with the with with getting rid of the immigrants and stuff.  

[00:06:32] Jesse Fries:

Correct. Correct. But the Trump administration, the DOJ did not wanna do that   without they wanted to do it without prejudice.   Okay. Which which means that they could always come back and actually Yeah. Get them for it. Yes.   So the judge actually dismissed the case,   but he goes, no. This is with prejudice. You can't not bring it at all. If you're dismissing, you're dismissing plain and simple. That's it.   Be because you can't have that held over his head, and if you want him to be, like, a real  

[00:07:05] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Public Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah.  

[00:07:07] Jesse Fries:

Person, you know, somebody that's actually trying to help the public and everything like that as a mayor. Yep. And so because of this, the Democrats hate him. Right? They they they because he's kinda sided with Trump on the immigration issue and everything like that. Yep.   So he's actually   the Democrats were gonna primary him, for the next election.   So he decided just to switch it up, and now he's an independent. He he quit the Democratic Party,   and now he's just   independent. So   we'll we'll see if he could hold on to that,   mayorship or whatnot. Yeah. Yeah.  

Yeah. That's a whole bunch of New York politics and everything like that that's just going crazy right now. New York New York politics   yeah. Illinois politics are crazy too. Yeah. That is, those two  

[00:08:02] Jamon Fries:

yeah. They're just crazy.  

[00:08:04] Jesse Fries:

You know, California's crazy for a different reason. Oh, yeah.   Texas, we're freaking crazy here too. You know? It's like our what? Our attorney general, Paxton,   he's he's decided to run against his fellow Republican for the UN, the the upcoming open US senate seat.   I can't remember what that senator's name is.   We have Ted Cruz, of course, but it's not Ted Cruz. It's some old   guy. I don't know exactly who it is. But Ken Paxton, he, yeah, he he was   he was impeached   by our   congress here.   The trial acquitted him, but he was impeached. So it's like   yeah. For corruption. So yeah. Just the perfect guy you want in there. Right? Oh, yeah.  



[00:08:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:08:58] Jesse Fries:

He'll fit right on in with all the other senators. He definitely will. Yes. Without a   doubt.   Well, I guess we should probably talk about the tariffs. Right? Since that's what it is. So going on with tariffs. What do you mean by that? Nothing at all. Yeah. The last show, it ended before Trump did his little speech in the Rose Garden, so we really didn't have any   it was on Liberation Day or last or tariff day, whatever you wanna call it. Yep. It was on that day, but, yeah, there wasn't much known about it. Now there's a lot of that's known about it. Yeah.   Let's see here. Just the breakdown of it. Basically,   every country is getting taxed or tariffed,   at least 10%.  



[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:09:46] Jesse Fries:

And, generally, the ones that are over 10%, they are being tariffed   based off of a trade imbalance   is how they view it. Yes.   And it's not necessarily about what they're tariffing us. It's about a trade imbalance with that country.   Yeah.   So it is but then there's also the other side where it's like if you're at the 10%,   a lot of times you're at the 10% not necessarily   because of the trade imbalance.   It's actually to stop   other countries from taking advantage   of   a zero tariff country   as a, you know, as a through point.   So so, basically, like, China could because Mexico's been used that way a lot. The China will send goods   to Mexico, and then from Mexico with the U USMCA,   we'll send the stuff up here tariff free.  



[00:10:42] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, not not only sent sent to mess Mexico, but they were also gonna build that huge,   giant,   freaking auto manufacturing   facility there. Right. Right. Right. Yep.  

[00:10:54] Jesse Fries:

And so with that,   Trump wanted to just to stop all that. That's why you hear these stories about terraforming penguins. I don't know if you've heard about those. Have you heard those stories? I haven't heard about that.   Yeah. It's like   there's an island. I I can't remember what it is. Is it the Banana Island or something like that? There's also Banana Island. The the the what of a it's a island that has penguins on it. That's all that is on this island.   Okay?   But he tariffed it.   10%.   Because   he's Because he doesn't want any loopholes.  

[00:11:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.   Yeah. But when you're doing stuff like this, you've gotta do everything you can to close every single loophole.  

[00:11:37] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It it it's kinda crazy. It's kinda crazy.   He did not add extra tariffs onto Russia or North Korea   or Iran, I think. Maybe another Okay. One.   But   those, they reason that   there there's so many sanctions and tariffs on these things anyways that Oh, yeah. Adding a little bit more just wouldn't do anything, and they're already being punished anyways. So what's the point Yep. Is Yep. The reasoning behind that. Yeah. Some people   made some political hay out of it, but Oh, of course. Not much could be said because, well, yeah, we're tariffing them and sanctioning them like nobody's business anyways. So Yep.   Let's see here.  

And then let's see here.   What else do I have on there? Oh, with the tariffs,   Ford, just so you know, Ford and,   Stellantis.   Stellantis, if you don't know, they make   Dodge or Ram trucks and Chrysler   and Jeep and everything like that. Both of those companies,   I know Ford for at least two months, they they are going to extend employee discounts to all customers.   Oh, wow. Okay. So if you wanna buy a car right now, like Ford or   a Stellantis brand,   that would probably be the time.   Oh, yeah. Absolutely. General Motors did not follow-up with it that I saw. So   Okay.  

Yep. Yeah. So I still Yeah. The employee doesn't know what deals with it. Usually pretty decent, do you? Yeah. It can it depends on the vehicle.   Right. But it could generally take off at least two to 3,000   off the car. So   some cars, it can take off a lot more.   Yeah. Just what they wanna sell and get rid of inventory wise and everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yep.   Let's see here.   So, yeah, the tariffs, they were basically it wasn't just a trade imbalance. It was also like   well, it was a trade imbalance. That that's what it was. It wasn't about how much other countries tariffed us. It was solely about trade imbalance. So if a country just won't allow something into The United States   Mhmm. Or into their country from The United States, well,   that that that's added to the equation. So  

[00:14:01] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That makes absolute sense. My my only concern with using the trade imbalance is if, you know, is if they consider, like,   the fact that   there's,   you know, a lot of countries we have a trade imbalance with because   they don't really make anything that we want, but they we make a lot that they want.   Or wait. No. No.   That would be the other way around.  

[00:14:28] Jesse Fries:

They don't want anything that we have, and we want what they have.   Yeah.   Yeah. Well, some of that is basically on the governmental level. It's like   in Korea,   for the while, that's where Hyundai is from.   Apparently, back in, like, when Hyundai first started out,   Korea, like, back in the sixties or seventies, they completely outlawed all foreign cars.   Yes. Yeah. I think now some foreign cars can be there, maybe. I don't know. I know Buick is there.   Mhmm. But I think they might make the Buicks there. So   probably.   Because I know, like, the Buicks in Japan where  

[00:15:07] Jamon Fries:

Isn't it same with Japan where no US manufacturer can sell in Japan? Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:15:12] Jesse Fries:

So it's like, it's not a tariff, but it's a brand. And so it leads to the trade imbalance. So Yep.   Yep.  

[00:15:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I kept hearing people saying, well, you know, the poor countries   the poor countries, you know, we we   bring in more of what they've got than they bring in what we've got because they don't have the money   to buy the stuff that we make and stuff like that. And I'm like, yeah. But I'm sure that that probably fits into Trump's equation somewhere.  

[00:15:42] Jesse Fries:

And it's not that much of a difference. It really isn't.   No. Because we're also more automated than a lot of these other places. Yeah. And so the automation can drop the cost.   Why it hasn't done that to   trucks and cars? I don't know. But   could they be gouging us? I don't know. You know, a hundred thousand dollar truck.  

[00:16:03] Jamon Fries:

Is any truck worth a hundred thousand dollars? It's, Well, it's all about the computers that you put into it, man. You know? It's not. It's not at all. I know. It is not. Know it's not.   But that's the only thing that makes it I mean, it it it not only do they cost so much to to buy, but then they also cost so much to repair because, well, everything's   controlled by computers. So anything that goes wrong with the vehicle, you basically gotta fix the computer too.  

[00:16:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I've heard that complaint, but I've also seen some mechanics going it's actually not that bad, guys. Just Yeah. It's it's a lot of mechanical things. And then if it's a computer, then you just get a new computer and throw that in, you know, that sort of thing. So it's like Or or you do an update or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So Yeah. It's   yeah. I really don't know.  

[00:16:50] Jamon Fries:

But mechanics can charge an arm and a leg for that. So  

[00:16:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They do. They do.   Especially if you go to the dealership,   it is   quite the pricey thing.   Absolutely.   Yeah. All my cars because I lease because   it's a long story. But anyways, yeah, I lease cars. And so, basically, they're always under warranty. So anything   major, generally,   is all covered underneath that sort of thing. So   yep.   Now my tires are damn expensive. Jesus Christ. They're, like, $350   a pop. It's like Yeah. Yeah. Tires are insane.   But they're nice tires. Just saying.  

[00:17:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I need to get some new tires for my truck too. I've,   according to the mechanics, they've got some dry rot.  

[00:17:39] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. That's no good. That's no good. Yeah. Yeah. But your truck side needs there. So  

[00:17:45] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. It does.  

[00:17:48] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Oh, let's see. Let let let let's see what the stock market's doing right now. God, let's I gotta see what the stock market because that's another thing about, all this is that the tariffs have really played havoc on the stock markets. Like, nobody's business stock market. Yeah. I kept seeing all sorts of articles about how  

[00:18:05] Jamon Fries:

the how it's how the the tariffs are destroying   the The US economy, even the world economy.   And then you hear occasionally   stories about how the stock market is jumping again.  

[00:18:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With that, it's like some of that is based off what computers do.   Yes. Because everything is run by bots now, basically.  

[00:18:27] Jamon Fries:

Yes.  

[00:18:28] Jesse Fries:

There was there was that one story   that went out that says, oh, Trump is thinking that of doing a ninety day extension on on these things.   And so the stock market, like, jumped like a thousand points.   Yep.   And and and then everybody's like going, no.   And then it sank another thousand points. You know? It was like, bam. Bam. Yeah. Yeah. It's like   and   from what I understand, it was like a false story, like, completely false. The guy never said it,   who was who they credited it to.   He never said it on the t on the show he was on. It was just somebody   interpreted it that way or an AI interpreted it that way. I don't know. Yeah. But the headline made everybody, like, going, yay. And then, wham.  



[00:19:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's kind of insane.   It really is. It really is. Yeah. I've I've watched I've watched some videos   where they where they were talking about the the stock market and all that.   You know, the the the one the thing that I've the thing that I've taken out of everything   Mhmm.   Is this is just a standard cycle in the net in the stock market. It's gonna go up. It's gonna go down. It's gonna be normal. It's gonna do all sorts of stuff.   The thing is not to panic and don't pull your money out because you see it starting to drop. Instead, keep your money instead of when it goes back up, you make even more.  

[00:19:59] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:20:00] Jamon Fries:

I'm not sure if I'd say this is the normal, personally. I would say that Well, no. The not this not this. But but if you look at the history of the stock market, there's ups and downs all over the place. Mhmm.   It it will eventually   climb back up to where it was or maybe even go higher   depending on what I mean,   it's it's very unusual for something like this to have a long term effect on the stock market. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely. Completely. Looks like the Dow Jones is up a 76  

[00:20:30] Jesse Fries:

right now. Okay. Nasdaq's up two twenty five.   So Yep.   The FTSE in London only dropped two thirty one, so not too bad, but not great either for them either. Right.   Oh, Japan dropped   1,200.   13 hundred.  

[00:20:49] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I mean,   it's   it's not surprising that that other countries are dropping, though. No. I mean, that's kind of to be expected. There are   for for so long, these trade imbalances   have netted extreme profits   for everyone in their stock markets.   Yep. Yep. All of a sudden now, The US is starting to say, you know what? We're a little bit fed up with this.   So we're gonna start taxing you. We're gonna start taxing all this. And,   I mean, that's gonna drive the projected   net incomes of those companies down significantly.  

[00:21:27] Jesse Fries:

It will. It will. At least the profit margins and everything like that.   I've seen   it's funny these experts. There there's a expert for each side. It's hilarious. It's like Of course, there is. One will say, oh, all hell's gonna break loose. This is gonna be the Great Depression times two, blah blah blah. Yep. Yep. And then you have other people go, no. This is actually gonna be a good thing. And then Yeah. You have,   some people going, this is gonna cause inflation like nobody's business. And then other people are going,   it's actually not going to. They're they're just gonna get,   lower margins on the internal so their profits won't be as high.  



[00:22:04] Jamon Fries:

You know? So it's like Yeah. Speaking speaking of profits and stuff like that, I kind of had an moment the other day. Uh-huh.   I've always I've always been very confused by   the   messaging of how tariffs are going to affect everyone.   Right. You know, the messaging going out saying that tariffs will will mean an increase in prices   for everyone.   Right. Right. The entire cost of it is gonna be passed along to the consumer.   And I finally under I finally watched the video that, you know, it it said the same things as all the others say, but it actually spelled it out how they why they think that way.  

[00:22:46] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:22:47] Jamon Fries:

And I think that and and if they're making a huge   jump in of an assumption.   So what Okay. What this video did is it it took an example.   Say, there's a hammer that's made in The US and a hammer that's made in Mexico.   The hammer in May that's made in Mexico, they can sell for $4. The hammer that's made in The US, they can sell for 6.   Okay?   Mhmm. So then tariffs get put on making it set that set that hammer in Mexico now costs $8.   Right. Now they make a huge assumption   that every US business is a capitalist greedy pig   and will start charging $8 for their hammer as well.  

Right. Instead of maintaining their hammer at 6,   making the Mexico company eat $2   to stay competitive.  

[00:23:43] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[00:23:45] Jamon Fries:

But most companies are not going to   raise their prices to the point where   the foreign companies can come in and sell at the price that they can that they can do it at.   They're going to make the the other companies compete with them because   if they raise it up to $8, a, they have less people buying their hammers.  

[00:24:05] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:24:06] Jamon Fries:

Supply and demand.   Yeah. B,   they're much more competitive at $6   selling for the same price they are now, which they're makes making a profit now or else they wouldn't be selling at 6   Mhmm. They're not gonna suddenly say, oh, we can make $2 more for every hammer we sell and start charging like that.   Yeah. No. It just doesn't make good business sense.   They may try to bump it up a bit. Yeah. It may it may go up to $6.50. It may even go up to 7. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not gonna go all the way up to 8.  

[00:24:39] Jesse Fries:

More than likely not. And not only that, but it it's it's like,   generally, when it comes to tariffs, a lot of times   from what I've heard here, a lot of times what actually happens is that they just reduce the margins internally because people are not willing   to pay the extra price. I just saw a news story on the local morning news,   and it was talking about egg prices. Right? Egg prices have come down quite a bit. Right?  

[00:25:06] Jamon Fries:

Oh, I wish they would here, but yeah.  

[00:25:08] Jesse Fries:

Well, they're, like, nationally, they're, like, at, like, $3.  

[00:25:11] Jamon Fries:

A dozen or something like that. I'm still paying $6 a dozen here.  

[00:25:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You're getting ripped off, dude.   You're getting ripped off.   But yeah. So   and and part of this was the the it's not necessarily   all due to more inventory being in here.   What it is is that people are actually using less of it. Yeah.   Because they don't wanna pay   $6   a dozen. Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Because they just can't afford it, and so they this is how the economy works. It's like, people have budgets, and if they have to change how they do things, they're gonna change how they do things. Oh, yeah. You know? It's like   it's like all these tariffs on, like, the cheap crap that you can buy from,   like, Timu   Yeah. And, Alibaba and everything like that. It's like,   okay. Or or or even Amazon. It's like that all their shit comes from overseas, most of it anyways.  



[00:26:09] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:26:10] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So you're not gonna be able to buy crap cheap crap anymore.   Yeah. Okay. That that might actually save you money.  

[00:26:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's like. It it could. But, you know, I I would have one contention with what you said. I don't think there's very much on Amazon that can be considered cheap anymore.  

[00:26:29] Jesse Fries:

Well, there is that. There is that. It's not like Timoo. Timoo is like, holy cheap, cheap. I understand. It's like   you can buy so much off of it, but and and when you buy it,   I've heard where it's, like, 10% or 20% might be defective and not work, and then you just beat those costs.   Yeah. And then also some of one of the problems with Timu. And And then some of these companies, apparently, they will actually, you wanna return it, they'll go, okay.   We'll give you a 10%   money back. You do with it what you will.   They'd rather   pay you to keep it than to bring it back.  



[00:27:05] Jamon Fries:

Well, it probably costs more to to bring it back than it did than it did just to buy it originally.  

[00:27:11] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   So it's like   so, yeah, I don't know exactly what's gonna go on. All these experts, they don't know what's gonna go on. They they're they're they're   they're talking heads, and there's one guy that says one thing and another guy says another one. So I'm just   like, let's see what this does. You know?   The stock market, it there was a couple crazy days,   Yeah. But it seems to be leveling off.   So Okay.   You know, it's not dropping a thousand points every day anymore. So Right.   Right. This week has been it's dropped a bit, but it hasn't been too bad. So I don't see. Business just hates uncertainty.   And Trump has said,   this is staying. So   I think because of that, business will go, okay. I know what to work with.  

Yep.   And so they can be certain in what will be coming on. If Trump would say, oh, no. I I I'm joking. Ninety days. That would lead to more uncertainty.  

[00:28:10] Jamon Fries:

Oh, it would. Massively. Yes. So it actually it's gonna happen even it there's a there's a lot of feeling out there that it's gonna happen eventually even, you know, with these   supposed extensions and stuff like that. And all delaying it does is just make the uncertainty even more Yep. Which makes us at the stock market reacts much more violently.  

[00:28:32] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   It's like it's like China. They're trying to buck the system. EU is trying to do it too. China has, said that   they were gonna,   match   what we did, and so they did. Mhmm. And so Trump,   what? He did a 50%   increase on top of that.   Yeah. And now they're at, like, a and then they retaliate again. Now they're at, like, a 4%   tariff.   And then the EU just recently,   on the 15   this month, they're gonna start, like, a 25, 20 three percent,   tariff on our aluminum   and, steel and whatnot. So   Okay.   As they would call the aluminum.   Yeah. It's aluminum. I'm sorry. It is. Yes.  

Aluminum is the only way to pronounce it. That that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.   And I have some history that I could blame the Brits for it. You know? So, you know, it's okay. It it's,  

[00:29:36] Jamon Fries:

you know, it's absolutely  

[00:29:38] Jesse Fries:

Goes back to telegraph days and a misspell. Yep.  

[00:29:42] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I just I just pulled up my, local grocery store. Eggs are   on sale right now for $5.49   a dozen. $5.49.  

[00:29:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:29:53] Jamon Fries:

Jesus. Let me check. Regular price is $6.59.  

[00:29:58] Jesse Fries:

6 50 9. Let's see.  

[00:30:01] Jamon Fries:

Eggs.   Yep.   For a dozen large eggs here.  

[00:30:13] Jesse Fries:

What's the cheapest? It's the best not best match. Let's go   price low to high.   Not Easter eggs. Come on. Jesus Christ.   Those plastic Easter   eggs? Yeah.   Okay. I have to go to the next page.   Cheapest I have is $4.35.  

[00:30:38] Jamon Fries:

I'd be loving that price.  

[00:30:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And I the eggs we buy, we buy the cage free brown eggs. So, you know, the Yeah. What the ones that are marked up there. I can get those for $4.53.  

[00:30:51] Jamon Fries:

Holy   crap.   Yep.   The cheapest I can get   the   cage free brown eggs  

[00:31:01] Jesse Fries:

is  

[00:31:04] Jamon Fries:

cheapest one I see I've seen so far   is about $10.   Mhmm.   Here's some,   $8 for a dozen.  

[00:31:19] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:31:20] Jamon Fries:

Those are the cheapest ones that I can find. Jesus   Christ. Nope. I'd I take that back. Here's here's one simple truth.  

[00:31:27] Jesse Fries:

Always cheaper eggs. $5.99  

[00:31:29] Jamon Fries:

for a dozen of cage free large brown eggs.   Damn. Yeah.   That's what So, I mean, it it that's only   30¢ more expensive than regular grade double a large eggs Yep. Which is really   unusual that they'd be that close in price.  

[00:31:47] Jesse Fries:

It it is. It is rather odd.   That could be because they're they weren't selling is what they had to bring down the price. So it's It could be. But yeah. Or it could be that they're for them. So Or it could be that they're artificially  

[00:32:00] Jamon Fries:

keeping the white the regular eggs up or something. Who knows?  

[00:32:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Possibly. Possibly.   The other funny story that that or the funny story that's really coming out of these, trade things is that you you you could tell that not everybody in the Trump administration is happy with the tariffs.   Oh, yes. Yes. Absolutely. Elon Musk   hates it.   Well, he does a lot of overseas business. So No. He does. I had a lot of manufacturing, so I don't blame him at all. But,   yeah, you you could tell that it it's like, okay. So Musk and Trump are aligned on some things, but they're not aligned on everything and everything. Oh, yeah. I know. Absolutely.   He's been attacking,   Peter Navarro,   which is the trade adviser for Trump. Right.  

He's been, like, on   Twitter saying he's a moron and so on and so forth.   But the best part is that the press secretary, Carolina Leavitt,   she's actually said boys will be boys. They can fight. Who cares? Let them go.  

[00:33:06] Jamon Fries:

I love that one. I mean, it's, like, it it's complete it's absolutely true too. You know? Just because they're both advisers of Trump doesn't mean that they have to agree with each other and get along.  

[00:33:17] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly. It doesn't  

[00:33:20] Jamon Fries:

In in fact, it's better if your advisers   argue and fight with each other. Uh-huh. It means that it means that they're telling you exactly what they truly think.  

[00:33:29] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. And Musk,   most of his money is, caught up in the stock market. So, yeah, I wonder why he doesn't like the tariffs right now. You know? Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.   Apparently, he actually begged Trump   to reverse the tariffs.   Something tells me that didn't go so well.   Nope. Nope. Trump said, nope.   So you gotta love it. It it's like   the the yeah.   I like that sort of thing. You know, the back and forth and everything like that. You know, it's like Definitely. Yes.   They're they're not complete sycophants,   to Trump or anything like that. Yeah. And Trump isn't a sycophant to Musk or anything like that. They got good ideas,   and then they go from there. So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  



[00:34:21] Jamon Fries:

I   really, the biggest reason that   Musk is involved in in   in his in the influence area there   is because of the way he handles   Doge, the way he handles Yeah. Just going in and clearing shit out. I mean, that's No. That's exactly why. Yep. That's what he excels at. So  

[00:34:45] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Yeah.   But, apparently, people hate Musk.   What was that? They do.   I I but, also, they hate Trump. Apparently, 55% of center of left,   like, Democrats and whatnot,   apparently, 55% of them are okay   with assassinating Trump.   Yeah. There's a poll there. That's  

[00:35:07] Jamon Fries:

that's not that shocking.  

[00:35:09] Jesse Fries:

Yes. But assassination is never no. No.   Absolutely not. I'm sorry. This is it's   crazy. It is pure craziness with   the hate  

[00:35:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The Yes. Absolutely.  

[00:35:22] Jesse Fries:

That has come. It really is crazy.   Well, as in should we There's really not much else you can say about that. There there really isn't. There really isn't. You know? It's just all messed up. Like Yeah. Completely messed up.   Let's see here. Apparently, legal status has been revoked for 985,000   migrants, that use the CBP   one app underneath the Biden administration.   Okay.   So that's a million people,   that, we're revoking. So there's that. Yeah. Yeah. There's that.   Trump has been winning,   quite a few things in the Supreme Court. He has been. Yes.   Yep. Yep. At least temporary wins. They're all temporary wins. They're not Right.  

They're not saying that what he's done is constitutional or legal or anything like that. They're just temporary wins is Yep.   And it looks like   I I've read some of the opinions,   and   the main point is that these cases aren't being brought into the right   courts.   Yeah.   There's the habeas court,   which is like the criminal court.   Right.   Then you have   the,   small claims or the claims court   Mhmm. And so on and so forth. And then you have also, like, litigations   that are set up,   for,   the federal employees that they have to go through if they feel like they were,   fired incorrectly.  

Okay. So you have all these different things. All these went into,   like, the habeas or something like that. Or not even the habeas, but all of them went to different courts   trying to judge shop, basically.   Right.  

[00:37:13] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, they had to in order to get the to get them to see what they wanted to do. Right. Right. Right.  

[00:37:19] Jesse Fries:

And so, basically, the court is now just they're they're they're splitting apart and say, no. You have to go to the right people. Plain and simple. Yes. Yeah. You have to go to the right people.   You have to go to the right case. You know? It's like   it's like for the Venezuelans,   the trade whatever. I I tend to   the gangs that were sent down to El Salvador.   Right.   From   what I understand is that they did it per this   one act. I can't remember exactly what it is.   But the court said that you had to go through the habeas,   which means that you have to file where   you were detained.  

So in these cases, they were detained in Texas. So it would have to be   filed in Texas instead of in DC, which is a much more liberal  

[00:38:13] Jamon Fries:

Right. Yeah. Court system.   Yeah. I I can imagine how hard it would be to find a,   a,   judge that would work with them   in There's some. There's there's there's there's some. Yes. But it's much harder than in DC.  

[00:38:28] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So   yeah. It it just seems like they're trying to and then they're also trying to stop   all these judges from putting these   national blankets of banning, whatever Trump says.   Yeah. So, you know, it's like if you do that, you   you're just stopping everything. You're not actually letting it work through the system.   Right. So it's,   yeah. Yep.   It's a interesting time we live in right now.  

[00:38:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the one thing that I hope comes out of this is a clear definition   of   presidential authorities   versus the court's authorities.   What   I I the what the president can actually do and limitations on his powers and stuff like that.  

[00:39:12] Jesse Fries:

That would be nice. That would be nice. Yeah. It really would be because,   the president   not not Trump, just the president, whoever is president, has   really   clawed a lot of power for himself.   Oh, yes. Yeah. And  

[00:39:27] Jamon Fries:

it would make sense. Way too many executive orders that are replacing what the congress should be doing. Yep. Yep. Yep.   Yeah. I I don't think they've quite branched off into taking too much from the judicial branch yet, but  

[00:39:41] Jesse Fries:

definitely from the congressional branch. Yeah. No. The judicial is pretty.   There's not much that can really be done there. They Right.   They kinda did, actually,   underneath,   it's been overturned, but, basically, where the   court would just take whatever   the department said. So if the department said, well, this is what we think it is,   courts would just say, okay. Yep. That's good. And move on from there instead of actually, like, looking at the   law case law to actually figure out if,   yep, somebody was wronged or whatnot, especially in suing, the federal government and whatnot. So Yeah. Absolutely. Yep.   Let's see here.  



[00:40:29] Jamon Fries:

What else we can Yeah. Speaking of, court cases.   Uh-huh.   Washington   and 40 other 41 other states are suing   Meta.   Okay. Why now?   Because re you remember hearing all the studies about how social media is detrimental for children?  

[00:40:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Sure.  

[00:40:52] Jamon Fries:

They're suing Meta saying that they've allegedly harmed   youth's   children, therefore, they're suing them.   Okay. All because of their social media, because they've allowed   children to have access to social media.   Forty forty two states have decided to sue Meta.  

[00:41:14] Jesse Fries:

Well, I would say where where's your law that says   a kid can't go on?   Yeah. Just saying. You know? It's not   there's no federal law. There's no state law. Well, there's some state laws, like, Florida just passed it, like, a thirteen year old law, I think. Yes. Yes. There there are some good past thirteen year old laws.  

[00:41:34] Jamon Fries:

But those are all laws that were passed   recently. They're not not all laws.   So Meta has done absolutely nothing illegal. So why are these suing them?  

[00:41:47] Jesse Fries:

More than likely, they're trying to use the   the   cigarette   situation   to go after them, I bet. Yep. Go and go. You knew this. You knew this. You did this. It's so yeah. It's   Yeah. It's like some people are trying to go after car companies too for the same thing and gas companies. Say, god, come on for Christ's sakes. It's a Yep.   It's just a dollar grab. It's all it is. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:42:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I just I'm I just was just shocked that there's   up to 42   state attorney generals are are involved in in this lawsuit,  

[00:42:27] Jesse Fries:

are are suing them. It just Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. But then everybody wants a dollar. Every   state wants their money and everything like that and Absolutely.   I find it all pathetic. I really do. Just Yes. If you don't want it, make it illegal.   Plain and simple. You you know, it's,  

[00:42:46] Jamon Fries:

it's like Texas It's not hard to do. No. Our against it.  

[00:42:50] Jesse Fries:

The state here, they decided to make,   like, adult websites.   Mhmm. They have to prove that you're 18. You have to actually show, like, proof   Yeah. Through their verification systems   that you're actually 18 years old. Yep.   So, yeah, I I I don't see anything wrong with that. You know?   I always try to find the websites that   don't have that. You know? But, you know Right.   Yes. I look at porn people. I'm sorry. You know, I'm a man. It's   just not that often, but, yeah, I I do because, well, it's porn.   Yeah. And did we have a study that said boobs make a man happy?  

[00:43:29] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   We did. Yes.  

[00:43:32] Jesse Fries:

So there you go. I need to get longer by watching porn.   Exactly.   Well, at least boobs. You you know, maybe Yes. Maybe not hardcore porn or something like that. You know? It's,   did you know you could watch,   like, on Instagram and whatnot?   Breastfeeding is all good. So, basically,   you can get videos where they're just popping out their boob  

[00:43:56] Jamon Fries:

to make it.  

[00:43:58] Jesse Fries:

I did not know that. Yeah. And what's disturbing, is that right? Because it's usually with these ones that have, like, a image, like, afterwards. You swipe it, and then it's, like, a very provocative. So it's like they're using that as a way to get  

[00:44:13] Jamon Fries:

Nice. Nice.  

[00:44:17] Jesse Fries:

But I digress.  

[00:44:22] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   And talking about tariffs, one of the,   one of the   benefits of this   is, I guess, Trump is proposing   eliminating income taxes for Americans were earning less than a hundred and 50,000 a year.   Yep. Yep. So That would be kind of cool, but at the same time,   I can see problems with that.   The the problem that I can see with that is that it's not   taxing everyone   uniformly.   No. I understand. I understand. But You know, there there might be some people that complain, well, why do I have to keep paying income taxes when you don't?  

[00:45:06] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thing. Yeah. My wife would be one of those complaining.   Yes. Yes.  

[00:45:12] Jamon Fries:

But, you know, at at the same time,   there's people complaining about that even now. It's just that the number's not anywhere up near as high as a hundred and 50,000.  

[00:45:21] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Exactly. Especially when you add in, like, the earned income credit Yeah. And everything like that. It's like, yeah. Okay. Technically, you were taxed, but then we gave it back to you with earned income credit this and that, you know Yeah. Especially when you have kids and everything like that. It's Yep.   Yeah. But, you know, it's it's it's like, right now, I just did our taxes. And, you know, we make   we make so much that we can't get any deductions, basically, unless if   it's like,   I'm paying on   student loans. Yeah. I cannot deduct that interest anymore.  

Okay.   You know, we still we still get the housing interest and everything like that. What was that? Yeah. That is a good problem to have.   It's it's it's a rough life, Jamon. It's a rough  

[00:46:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I I can imagine.   Yeah.  

[00:46:19] Jesse Fries:

Busy  

[00:46:21] Jamon Fries:

US. Yeah. Supposedly, though, they they will they're gonna introduce a   national sales tax. It sounds like they wanna do too.  

[00:46:29] Jesse Fries:

So a VAT? Even though he hates VATs?  

[00:46:34] Jamon Fries:

But he's well,  

[00:46:36] Jesse Fries:

not they they say it's a VAT, but it's not really a VAT. It's just a sales tax. Okay. Yeah. Because a VAT you add at every level Yeah. Sales tax is just at the end, basically. So  

[00:46:50] Jamon Fries:

yeah. So a VAT   causes prices to go up significantly   usually.   But,   yeah. They they were talking about, like,   something like a   some of the ideas that were put out there were, like, a 20%   sales tax.   Jesus Christ.   But   it's only on, like,   new clothes purchases,   new vehicle purchases.   It's not on anything that you need for sales repaying. Yep.  

[00:47:24] Jesse Fries:

That?   Fuck that.  

[00:47:28] Jamon Fries:

That's that's what one website that I saw was was saying that they were gonna do. But I don't know. That's that's that's that's shit. I haven't really seen too much, but,  

[00:47:38] Jesse Fries:

the what I understand, he's he's he from what he has said, he has said stuff about, like, having the tariffs   take that Yeah. On,   things like that. So it's   yeah. No.   I don't think we need a sales tax or a I know. Income tax. Just just get rid of income tax.   Federal sales tax, whatever. You you know, it's   But before prohibition, we didn't have a sales tax or, I mean, income tax, you know, because We did not. We taxed liquor.   Yeah. Well, we brought back the liquor   tax, but we kept the income tax. Yeah. Kinda seems messed up to me. Let's just get rid of the income tax.   We're already taxing the liquor. You know? So  

[00:48:29] Jamon Fries:

No. We're taxing the liquor. We're taxing the gas. I mean, there's a lot of things that Yep. There's outside taxes on that are that cause the prices of everything to be so high.   So   you can keep those taxes. I mean and, you know, they say that the money is going to certain things, like   the gasoline   taxes supposedly go to make sure that the roads are in good condition. But, you know, I've rarely driven on a road that was in good condition.  

[00:48:59] Jesse Fries:

Except for tollways. Like like like the case is toll.   Toll toll roads are the Well rare. Some tolls. Some tolls. Well, it's, Chicago's tolls aren't that great. Well, it's like, what? Kansas, they when they gave it over to the private company to run,   I I believe they put in where they can't make a profit. It had to be a nonprofit.   Yep. And so, basically, all the profits had to go back into the road.   Yeah.   Which is just okay. Makes perfect sense to me, you know. It's, but there's other toll companies out there that don't do it that way. I I have long thought  

[00:49:34] Jamon Fries:

that our   that the road industry   should go to a bidding system like what they do in Germany.   Right now,   we bid for each repair job.   Right. Right.   In Germany,   they bid to take care of the road for x number of years.   Like So the better they do the road, the less they have to repair the road, which means that they more make more money. Whereas here,   the worse we repair the road, we more often we have to repair the road, which means that they make more money.  

[00:50:13] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.  

[00:50:14] Jamon Fries:

So in in Germany and countries like that, you're incentivized   to do a really damn good job on the road.   Whereas here in The US, you're incentivized   to   do decent. You know, maybe five years later, we'll have to come back and fix it.  

[00:50:32] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[00:50:34] Jamon Fries:

And roads should not be this should not go bad as quickly as they do here in The US. They   we could make them much, much better.  

[00:50:43] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.  

[00:50:46] Jamon Fries:

So I I think if they change the bidding system in that manner in that in that manner, then it would greatly improve the the quality of the roads as well. And that's kind of what they did with the turnpike is, you know,   you took control of it. You're you gotta be nonprofit. So the turnpike is gonna do everything they can to build those road roads as well as they can so that they don't have to repair them very often.  

[00:51:10] Jesse Fries:

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[00:52:45] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Indeed. It would.  

[00:52:48] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. And,   let's see here. Business. So   so there's a story. Okay. I I I've seen a couple of these stories. So   the story goes like this.   Five Below is gonna close for twenty four hours.   Okay. I see another story. Like, Target's gonna close for twenty four hours.   As you read it, the story, they go, it's for Easter.   But the headline   is it's closing for twenty four hours and how stupid of a business decision that is.   Are you kidding me? It's Easter, people.   It's Easter.   I swear to God.  

[00:53:33] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's like That that'd be like complaining that a business closes for Christmas.   I mean, come on now.  

[00:53:40] Jesse Fries:

It's exactly the same way. And some of them are good. Well, it's   like one story for the Five Below,   news story that I saw. It was like, well, Dollar General's really gonna take advantage of this or the dollar stores. I'm like, I go yeah. Okay.   You know, they're they're giving their people a day off. You you I just don't see what   the  

[00:54:01] Jamon Fries:

It's a national holiday. It's not a problem to give a day off for a national holiday.  

[00:54:06] Jesse Fries:

It you know, I not. I remember  

[00:54:09] Jamon Fries:

growing up, mother would never let us go shopping   on Easter,   Christmas,   or something like that   because   us going shopping   forces them to have employees there. So I'm actually kinda glad happy to see that they're just decided to close the store down.   Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that that is a that is a very unusual thing to happen, but it's a strong,   strong message.  

[00:54:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So, apparently, it's like, Aldi will be closed, Best Buy will be closed, Costco.   Mhmm. They added H E B for national stores, but that is a Texas store only. That is the greatest grocery store on the planet, by the way.   But   it is only in Texas and a little bit of Mexico. So I don't know. I don't think you could say national chains. Just saying.   Yeah. Yeah. But it's like JCPenney's, HomeGoods, Macy's, Marshalls, Michaels, Sam's Club's,  

[00:55:06] Jamon Fries:

Target, TJ Maxx. So, yeah, there's a whole bunch that are closing. Usual for all of them to close too. I wonder what I wonder what   suddenly change changed that made them wanna do that because I've never seen  

[00:55:17] Jesse Fries:

a lot of those stores close for a national holiday before. It could just be the attitude of having Trump as president. You know? He's more of a traditional man.   And the president does set the tone   for Absolutely. Yeah. Morals and everything like that. I know the left will say that Trump is immoral and everything like that.   But,   yeah, you know, it's a  

[00:55:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I think that might be Definitely. You know? So  

[00:55:44] Jesse Fries:

yep. Possibly. I don't know. Plus, who cares? It's one day for Christ's sake. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Literally, for Christ's sakes.   Yep. But, yeah, I saw that. It was like,   okay. So you're saying close for twenty four hours. You you don't say for they're gonna be closed for   Easter for twenty four hours. No. It's,   the the headline was Five Below closes 1,800 stores for twenty four hours. Dollar Tree to scoop up business. That's a headline.  

[00:56:16] Jamon Fries:

It almost   sounds like there might be something wrong with Five Below with that headline.   Exactly. Yeah. And they're they're trying to they're trying to make it sound like Five Below is having financial difficulties, and they can't keep their stores open.   Mhmm.   That's exactly That's a screwed up article.  

[00:56:38] Jesse Fries:

Right?   That's how the all these things are. It's like, are Yeah. It just makes no sense. Okay. So they're being nice to their people.   You know? Well, you know, I mean, it it it I'm surprised they didn't have a Chick fil A and a Hobby Lobby on there. You know? Yeah.  

[00:56:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's it's all that They're always closed on Sunday. They are. Yes. It's all that clickbait shit, you know. It it   in order to get p   reading   Five Below closes for Easter   wouldn't be   no one would click on it.  

[00:57:11] Jesse Fries:

I know. I know. It's stupid, though. It's like It is. People.   That is a   It was even The UK news. In the Independence UK, they had this major US retailers are participating in retail blackout.   They said Yeah. In spring retail blackout. What?   It's Easter, people.   I see. Yeah.   You go over to The UK, nothing is open on Sundays.  

[00:57:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   So   yeah.  

[00:57:46] Jesse Fries:

Suck it independently.   I just   I just don't get it.  

[00:57:53] Jamon Fries:

You know, that that's the I think that's the one   downside that we've gotten to everything being on the Internet Internet.   You know, back back when it was back when it was printed paper and print you know, the the press had to actually print the newspaper   Uh-huh. They wouldn't have they wouldn't have done this click baity headlines   because   you buy the paper and you read the paper.   They don't need   to do click bait headlines to draw attention.  

[00:58:23] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. The the main headline the the main headline is always click bait. Even even on newspapers because you would see it for a while. Yeah. The the the the front main one. The front line. Yeah. Yep. Yep. The front page. Yeah. That has always been absolutely true. Yes.  

[00:58:37] Jamon Fries:

But they have to make every single article headline be clickbait now.  

[00:58:43] Jesse Fries:

That's true. That is true.  

[00:58:45] Jamon Fries:

And so the you you can almost guarantee that nothing you read on that headline is ever actually going to entail   what's in the actual story.   Yep. Yep.   And it's very depressing.  

[00:58:58] Jesse Fries:

But it's not only that because you have to go a few lines into the story, like a paragraph or two in. For Yep. Like, on these stories, there's, like, a paragraph or two in where they said, oh, it's for Easter. It's like Yeah.  

[00:59:09] Jamon Fries:

So sometimes you'll see it, like, the very last sentence, it'll talk about what it what they did it why they actually did it.  

[00:59:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's like no. It's not that people. Just No.   As I say to my kids, kwenda.   It means go in Swahili.   Let's   see. Oh, just internationally.   New York Times, I'm still reading it.   It's a long piece,   but it's,   entitled the secret history of the war in Ukraine.   And basically, it just goes into all the nitty gritty of   The US and Europe   being involved   in every aspect   of, the Ukraine war.   Yeah. It's basically just,   it's a proxy war is what it was. Yep. Oh, yeah.   There's this one bit,   that's kinda interesting. It's like so this is quoted from the story.   Inside, The US Command,   the process of giving targeted information on Russians   gave rise to   a fine but fraught linguistic debate.  

Given the delicacy   of the mission, was it unduly provocative   to call targets targets?   Some officers thought targets were appropriate. Others called them intel tippers   because the Russians were often moving   and the information would need verification on the ground.   The debate was settled by major general Timothy d Brown, European Command's intelligence chief.   The locations of Russian forces would be points of interests.   Intelligence on airborne threats   would be   tracks of interest,   which   apparently, this would lead to the whole thing where if you ever get asked the question, did you pass a target to the Ukrainians,   you can legitimately   not be lying when you say, no. I did not, said one US official.  

Wow.   Yeah. This was in the beginning of the war.   Yeah.   So,   yeah, we're neck deep in this. This was   Oh, yeah. Yeah. It is such  

[01:01:28] Jamon Fries:

Well, I I remember hearing   very early in the war   that Ukraine tried to work a peace deal out with Russia.  

[01:01:36] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. And the person in The US stepped in and said, yeah. No. We can't let you do that. Sorry. Yeah. From what I hear is mostly Boris Johnson. I mean, it's Yep. What I,   was it him or what or was it Gordon?   Can't remember. I'm not sure. I don't remember. I don't wanna be sued. I think it was one of the other ones.   But yeah. So it is pure craziness. I might talk a little bit more what else I find in next week. I just start reading it today. It's a interesting piece.  

[01:02:06] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. So there that is a very involved there's a lot of involved history   in that in that neck of the woods and why this war why the war? Yeah. No. And it it seems like  

[01:02:17] Jesse Fries:

this is this is, like, real reporting. It is a huge article, like, huge. Okay.   And it took him three years of interviews with over 300 people and so on and so forth. Oh, so Yeah. Yeah. It it it's this this is journalism.   You know? Yes. It's,   so yeah. It's quite interesting. It is quite interesting.  

[01:02:37] Jamon Fries:

Nice.  

[01:02:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Let's see. Along the lines of war, there's the Hamas here.   So   apparently, they were lying about how many civilians were dead. Did you know that? No. Way. I know. Yeah. It's craziness.  

[01:02:53] Jamon Fries:

It it it's amazing how when you expect when when you rely on Hamas   to say how many   civilians   died, they're not gonna be   fully accurate.  

[01:03:08] Jesse Fries:

Right? Exactly.   And, apparently, they admitted it. This is this is coming straight from Hamas. Hamas,   they they said, oh, yeah.   We were wrong. We we gave you the wrong intel. It it's not that they were wrong. They knew the right intel,   from what I understand.   But, basically,   there's a couple stories here, but, basically, Hamas admits seventy two percent of the deaths   are combat aged men.   But they reported that seventy percent of the deaths were women and children.   Yeah. But it was the opposite way around.   Yep.  

And so, you know, it's   you know, don't don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to sign with Israel, but age is 18,  

[01:03:52] Jamon Fries:

and that's children in some people's eyes. So, you know,   I I can't understand the mistake.  

[01:04:00] Jesse Fries:

Combat age could be 16, couldn't it? I know. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah. But but yeah. It's   to to me, this is war. I I I don't care who is or whatnot in my book. It's war, and war is bloody.   Stop stop your propaganda. Just just I don't I know the propaganda is part of the war. We all do it. But Right.  

[01:04:20] Jamon Fries:

But, you know, the the problem the problem that I had with this is   that   no one   went in to independently   verify   the numbers.   You know, if it were if it would have been anywhere else   for the most part, if it would have been something other than Palestinians   Mhmm. If it would have been, say,   Russians   Right. Right. There's no way in hell that the that the,   Red Cross and the other health the other organizations   that go in to help out, there's no way in hell that they wouldn't have that they wouldn't have tried to verify   who was dying.  



[01:05:00] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Yep.  

[01:05:01] Jamon Fries:

But because it was Palestinians,   they every every report came out said the Palestinian   leaders have reported that this many people died.  

[01:05:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Nothing was independently verified. Yeah. So you knew it was you knew it was off. Yeah. Completely. Completely. You you you know, it's like also if the UN some says something, it's, you know it's gonna be anti   Israeli. It it's Yep. It's like they just did a a UN group just did a report saying that,   Israeli troops are raping and pillaging,   throughout Gaza.   So but but because it's the UN, I can't believe it because there are so many sides of the UN are so anti Israeli, anti Semitic that you you just can't   Oh, yeah. The the the let's just wait. See see, this is why I love history because   you wait.  

Yes.   And then you see what actually it was.   You know? It's like, yes. It will be still a bit distorted, but it'll be closer to the truth.  

[01:06:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Even eventually,  

[01:06:04] Jesse Fries:

something very approximate to the absolute truth will come out. Yeah. Exactly. You know, after years and years and years, you know, New York Times came out with this piece about how   no.   I I'm sure some of these people are going, yeah. Look at look at how cool we are in The US. We're we're we're we're doing proxy wars. Yeah. Yeah. Cold war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We love it. We love it. You know? I'm sure there's that. You know? He might be celebrating it. I don't know. Yep. I know in the beginning, the reporter, he goes, oh, yeah.   Putin is completely to blame for this. Yeah. So   so, yeah, you know there's that slant, but because it's the New York Times. But Yeah.  

Beyond that, the history is good, if you ask me. You know? If you get down to the nitty gritty and everything like that, it's   Oh, yeah. Then you can delve and look for yourself to see   if it makes sense. So Yes. Absolutely.  

[01:06:57] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   So what is   what is this   Britain is lurching towards civil war now?  

[01:07:06] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. It was an opinion piece.   Basically, the idea is, just   it's saying white people are getting sick and tired   is basically because native Britons are getting sick and tired of this crap.   But but it actually goes into   that everybody   is getting sick of this crap,   in Germany, in The US, everything like that. We're getting sick and tired of all these people coming in Yeah. Illegally,   changing our   country and everything like that. You know? It's,   there there there's   he's basically just saying sooner or later.   It's like, right now, there's a few million,   Muslims and whatnot in Britain.  

Mhmm. And   they're basically dictating the law   to the majority of people.   And they're saying that it's Sooner later  

[01:08:07] Jamon Fries:

If I'm not mistaken, then some places, they just completely ignore   British law and go with the Sharia law. No. Yeah. Completely. Completely. But it's like  

[01:08:17] Jesse Fries:

it's like the mayor like, all the mayors and everything like that of all these big cities are Muslims.   You know? So it's like Birmingham and London and whatnot. They're all,   Muslims. And so all these councils are Muslims and everything like that. And so   it's he's saying that sooner or later,   it will get to that point,   that it it may just break out into violence because a majority of people, once they start getting suppressed,   something's gonna happen. Very scary. Yeah. Yeah.   It's,  

[01:08:49] Jamon Fries:

I could see it.  

[01:08:51] Jesse Fries:

No. I could see it too. I could see it too. It it's, and then, like, the Marine Le Pen ban on her   being in there and everything like that. Yeah.   France is also going   that that whole side in France is, getting popular as well.   Mhmm. It it's   and then you also add I'm not sure if it was in this article or not.   But, basically, it was   somebody said,   a nation is not the country. It is the people.   And so when you change   so so the country lines don't matter. It's the people inside it, the culture inside of it that is the nation.   And so if you change that, it can't kill a nation. It can kill a country. The country still might be there. You still might call it England.  

Yeah. But   it's gone.   Right.   And so all this, I think people feel this, and it leads to,   people wanting to do violent things and everything like that. I think it's a   it's nature. It's it's a you feel suppressed, so you feel like you're gonna fight off. And it's for all sides, like, minorities, majorities. If you're feeling suppressed,  

[01:10:04] Jamon Fries:

it's gonna be that way. Let me and, you know, it   talking about it turning to violence, it's   the there's also the problem about the violence that is being committed by   Oh, completely. Certain groups of people. I mean, you know, I I I still I still remember hearing   stories,   and these this isn't too long ago, about the rape gangs that that roamed   around The UK recently. You know? Just   Yeah. I I don't think they've been stopped. So No. They haven't been. Yep. And so all of that violence that's happening   against   the Brits   Yep.  

It it's gonna blow up.  

[01:10:46] Jesse Fries:

Sooner or later, it will. It's just, bound to happen. It's Yeah.  

[01:10:50] Jamon Fries:

The violence is already there. It's just when are you gonna when is one group gonna get so sick of it that they decide to become violent as well? That's really the only that's the major question.  

[01:11:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It it is the major question. And, you you know, and it's not   it's it's the workers that will do it. Yeah. It it it is the pro it's a proletariat,   as,   Marx would say, that would actually rise up against this sort of thing because their culture and their   everything that is for their interest is being destroyed. They are being suppressed. Exactly. Exactly. In The UK now,   if you're a minority, you get a lesser prison sentence than if you're a a white man.   How does that even make sense? I'm sorry. That makes no sense. Yeah. No. No. It doesn't. It it's equality under the law. I am completely for 100% equality. Plain and simple. Under the law, it is 100%. That it's what it has to be   across the board.  

Absolutely. You know? So yeah.   So, yeah, that's that story. It it's a it's kinda fascinating. So  

[01:11:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It it really is.   Let me see what else we got.  

[01:12:06] Jesse Fries:

Oh, Russia sent off,   some secret,   satellites.   Nobody knows what they are.   Oh. So Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody knows where they're all they're they're moving around   doing stuff. You know? So it's like,   what was it?   It doesn't say here. It was a trio of secretive,   Russian satellites.   It it was earlier this year. It wasn't just it was back in March, apparently.   Okay. The satellites appear to be conducting potential proximity   operations,   maneuvering close to other objects in space.   So that's,   interesting.   Yeah.   Nobody knows what it's for.  

[01:12:51] Jamon Fries:

So it sounds like it there's one of two things that it could be. Uh-huh. It's either   being put up there so that they can take out other countries' satellites   Right. Right. Which wouldn't be shocking.  

[01:13:05] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:13:08] Jamon Fries:

Or they could be, like, the one company that I read about last week, which was,   that they were up there cleaning trying to clean up the space space a little bit.   They were getting Possibly. Getting they were moving in towards larger objects, and they're gonna deorbit some of them and stuff like that.   Yep. So, I mean, it it it could be nefarious or it could be for the good. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. The news story said it could be one of many different things including military experiments,  

[01:13:37] Jesse Fries:

such as satellite inspection or target practice.   Yep. Could be testing technology for docking or for formation flying in space.   Yeah.   It may also be scientific payload,   or it could even just be the unintentional fragmentation of a satellite.   Nobody knows. That could be. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. So Interesting news. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that one. I like that one. You know? Secret of war.  

[01:14:08] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   Gotta love stuff that's done in secret.  

[01:14:12] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   So the BBC now wants some more credit in Apple and Google News?  

[01:14:18] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes.   They've   they have they are complaining   that Apple is not giving them the credit due.   The the main reason that they're doing this complaint is because the BBC is publicly funded   in   UK. And so  

[01:14:36] Jesse Fries:

with since Under threat of imprisonment.   Yes.   Yes. If you have a TV,   you have to pay the license.   Yes. Even if you don't watch it,   you have to pay the license.  

[01:14:49] Jamon Fries:

Yes. And so the they're trying to they're they're trying to they're saying that   they're getting that they're   that they're not getting the credit that they're due because Apple is putting is has their stuff there. So they want to they want it to somehow say that BBC is   is doing this and make it much bolder so that they can report back saying, yes, we are publicly funded,   but, you know, here's the re here's what we're doing be with your funding. So   they're saying that Apple is not allowing them to do that, that they're taking some of the credit for it, basically.  

[01:15:27] Jesse Fries:

But up up at the top of Apple News, it says BBC News.   Yeah.   I I   basically  

[01:15:35] Jamon Fries:

I I've never seen anything on Apple that didn't properly   source   every single news article. Go to bbc.com.  

[01:15:44] Jesse Fries:

Download the BBC News app.   I I I Yeah.  

[01:15:48] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Crazies. I I just wanna go. Yeah. Well, it is the BBC, so, you know, what do you what do you expect?  

[01:15:57] Jesse Fries:

I don't know. Some sanity? You know? It's like, you're being credited. I don't know what more you want. I I Sanity from a media source? Come on now. That's insane.   Just sanity in life would be nice. You know? Just   Yeah.   Once in a while. You know?   Yep.  

[01:16:17] Jamon Fries:

Now, speaking of The UK and, and Apple   Mhmm.   They the government tried to, you know, the   the whole,   thing about the   about the them wanting Apple to open a backdoor for them and so they could so they could see everything that was going on.   Yep. Well, the courts have now said, yeah. No. We're not going to close the doors for this trial. It is going to be held in the open so that everyone knows what you wanna do.  

[01:16:49] Jesse Fries:

Good.   Yep. Good. Yeah.   If you wanna spy on me, let me know you're gonna spy on me. Plain. Absolutely. Yes. You know, it's not this, oh,   hush, I'm gonna spy on them, and they're not gonna know. I'm gonna be the Stasi. You know? It's like, no. Yep. No. Yep. Just let me know you're spying on me. You know? It's Yeah.  

[01:17:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, I I never expect   any form of secrecy when I'm doing anything on a computer.   No. No. No. No. If it's not the government spying on me, it's Microsoft spying on me. You know? Exactly. I mean  

[01:17:24] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Yeah. No. I   I yeah. Yeah. I'm right there with you. I   I don't wanna go to jail. I'm sorry. There's no way. You know? And I don't want any   yeah.  

[01:17:40] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, to to when you when you put stuff out there,   you know that with technology,   someone is going to see exactly what's going on. Oh, completely. Completely. Whether it's the person that creates the phone, that that creates the software for the phone you're using Yep. Or the person that creates the operating system,   they all   can access everything.  

[01:18:07] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. You know? Just like everybody could access this podcast. You know? It's, it's like and some people would hate to do this sort of thing because they're just putting it out in the world that,   you know, they're afraid of what could happen to you. But, you know, you can't Yeah. I I can't live in fear. You know? It's still not one of those things. But, absolutely not.  

[01:18:27] Jamon Fries:

But,   but yes. So,   so that's what's so that's going on. At least, I'm I'm glad that they made it so that that the court said that, it's gonna be an open hearing. So that's cool. That is good. I do like that.  

[01:18:43] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Oh, it looks like we moved a bunch of our b two bombers,   to a island in the,   Indian Ocean.   Really?   Yeah. Yeah. So just in case if, Trump wants to bomb Iran or something like that, bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. Is it wasn't that a song? Did somebody make a song like that?  

[01:19:02] Jamon Fries:

I think it was.   Yes. It was a little bit different, but,  

[01:19:09] Jesse Fries:

bum Iran.  

[01:19:11] Jamon Fries:

I mean, it it it did sound like that. It was ba ba ba ba ba ba You see? Iran.  

[01:19:16] Jesse Fries:

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It was it was it was it was a,   it it was a a parody.   Yeah. Somebody did a Okay. Parody of a bum bum bum Iran, I think. Really? I've I've never heard that parody. That's awesome. Or it was Iraq. I can't remember which one it was. It was either Iraq or Iran.   But,  

[01:19:37] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Iran would be so much cooler because it actually sounds like you're singing the actual song.  

[01:19:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it may have been doing, like, the Iraq war. So Okay. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep.   Yep. Let's see. Oh, speaking of The UK, apparently,   they are creating   a minority report.   They're they're they're coming up with ways to identify and predict who a murderer   could be   even before you commit the murder.  

[01:20:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yep. Yep. Wow.  

[01:20:13] Jesse Fries:

Tom Cruise has gotta be in on this. It's all I'm saying. He's gotta be. Yeah. He's gotta be. Absolutely.   Yeah. I know. I   with how they're going, they might start throwing people in jail just because they might, you know. It wouldn't surprise me.  

[01:20:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, I mean,   you know, it it's   you'll probably see a trend of   anyone disagreeing with the government was going to kill somebody. Therefore, you're in jail now.  

[01:20:46] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. Yeah.  

[01:20:49] Jamon Fries:

I mean, they they jail their political  

[01:20:51] Jesse Fries:

rivals now, so why not somebody that Well, The UK has it. The UK has it. The UK has it. No. Not yet.  

[01:20:58] Jamon Fries:

No. No. That's the EU. They EU They they've made it illegal to say anything, but they haven't put anybody in jail yet.  

[01:21:08] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They got rid of free speech. Yep. And we'll throw you in jail for saying certain things. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.   It   you you with that whole thing, you know, it's   it's like all these people all this thing about Trump and everything like that. That that that's fine and everything like that. But you know something? We have the constitution.   Yes. You you know, even what you say about the Democrats or the Republicans or anything like that. We have the constitution, and   while it doesn't necessarily   do everything we would want it to,   it does limit   what can be done to us. Oh, yeah. You know? And   without that written constitution,   we'd be screwed.  

Just one you you know, if if it was the constitution like The UK has. They say they have a their constitutional,   republic or monarch republic. What what whatever   it is. There's no constitution. There's nothing written down. No.   There's nothing at all. You know? They have the Magna Carta. That's it. You know? That means nothing for the regular people.   That's all about the lords and the king. That's all that was. So Absolutely.  

[01:22:15] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:22:17] Jesse Fries:

It's it's all messed up, yo.  

[01:22:21] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yeah. Listen. You you remember,   all that ransomware that used to be going on?   Yeah. Yeah.   Well, one of the companies that was doing ransomware   got hacked.   Uh-huh.   They they,   so it was a Russian ransomware game   gang called Everest.   Okay.   And their leak site got hacked. And from what I understand, they still don't have access to their leak site even today.   And it simply said, don't do crime. Crime is bad.   I love it.   Love it.  

[01:23:05] Jesse Fries:

See, that   that makes perfect sense. You know, Paris,  

[01:23:09] Jamon Fries:

it could have been a government. Could have been our government. It could have been.   It could have been Oregon, or it was some really good white hat hacker out there. Exactly. It's it's like if you can't  

[01:23:21] Jesse Fries:

if if you can't, like,   stop them legally   because trying to do that, especially when they're in a country that you have no   reciprocity with Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's   like,   yeah. Just hack them.   They're hacking you. Yep.   It makes perfect sense to me. Absolutely. Perfect sense to me. That's awesome. That is awesome.  

[01:23:42] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   I I just love the the the only thing that pops up when you pull up that website now is don't do crime. Crime is bad. X o x o from Prague.  

[01:23:52] Jesse Fries:

No. That is really cool. That is really cool.  

[01:23:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:23:58] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. It looks like you got some science or technology stuff.  

[01:24:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. A couple of interesting things.   So there's a few things I don't really understand about one of the articles, but, you know, we can get into that later.   Right. The   first baby   in The UK   was born to a woman that had had a transplanted   womb.  

[01:24:24] Jesse Fries:

Oh, that's cool. That is cool.  

[01:24:27] Jamon Fries:

Now the the iffy part for me is that her sister   was the one who who donated the womb.   Mhmm.   But the article doesn't say if there was anything wrong with the sister. She she's still alive. She's now taking care of the kid   and every helping take care of the kid and everything. So, I mean, I don't know why she donated her womb to her sister, but her sister was born with, some with   a condition that made it said it was impossible for the for her to have bring a pregnancy to term. So   she donated the womb.   That to me, that kind of borders   on,   on a medical gray area.  

I could see. Unless there was unless there was something wrong with the sister that made it so that the womb her womb was completely useless for her.  

[01:25:24] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. I'm looking through the story here, seeing if I can,   it's   well,  

[01:25:31] Jamon Fries:

as long as I'm talk about her sister at all. So Right. Right. But, technically,  

[01:25:36] Jesse Fries:

nothing would necessarily have to be wrong. It could've just been   that the sister wasn't gonna have any more kids.  

[01:25:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I don't I don't know. I mean, it's and it's  

[01:25:48] Jesse Fries:

and if it's it's it's it could be like a kidney, you know, to where   if you don't need it   Yeah. You can give it up. You you can't profit off of it because well, maybe Right. Okay. You can. Yeah. But in The US, you can't profit off organ donation.   Right.  

[01:26:06] Jamon Fries:

So But yeah. So I I don't know. I'm just I I would have liked if the story dug into a little bit more as to why the sister decided to donate her womb.   Yeah. It did comment that unlike other women that have that have gone through this kind of procedure,   she didn't feel any loss   at   at the hysterectomy.   So either she already has kids of her own and doesn't wanna have anymore and was gonna get, you know, was gonna get surgically altered anyways.   Right. Or there was something that prevented her from being able to have children in the first place, but she had a perfectly good womb whereas her sister had a bad womb.   You know? Yeah. That's If the story is the case, then it's not a problem. But the the story is just very unclear on this on the sister's situation.  



[01:26:52] Jesse Fries:

The story has a picture of them. Yes. And the sisters,   I think, could easily be, like, ten years older. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:26:59] Jamon Fries:

So   Well, the older one is the one that the older one is the one that got the wound.   The but the younger one is the No. No. Is the sister.  

[01:27:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. New mom on the left   is the younger one, and then sister Amy on the right Okay. Is what the picture says. So it's the older one is the sister.  

[01:27:21] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:27:22] Jesse Fries:

Apparently, they don't care about the guy in the middle in that. Well, of course not.  

[01:27:28] Jamon Fries:

He's irrelevant in the picture.  

[01:27:33] Jesse Fries:

But, yeah, it's, like, could be going through, menopause, perimenopause   and everything like that. So It could be. Could be. Yeah. It's like That's I'm done with it. You want it? You know? Yeah. I'm about I'm about to not need it at all anyways. You know? I'm about to go to menopause anyways. So Yep. Let's just get that over and done with, you know, maybe. Yep.  

[01:27:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that that was that was pretty cool, you know, that's,   that that from what I've read there from what I've read in other sources too, that that there seems to have been a few other women that have,   had a that have had a transplanted woman that have had child that have had childbirth, but, this was the first in The UK. So, you know, The UK news article article was obviously   touting that quite a bit, but, it's pretty cool.   And then there's something that just there's another story that, you know,   while cool, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Mhmm.  

So there's a company in Texas   that is trying to make it so that is that is trying   to use the genomes   and the genes   of   species that have either recently become extinct   or something like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They say they're only going to they're they're going to un extinct animals that were that were that were caused that were that were the extension extinction was caused by human involvement.   Okay?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the woolly mammoth. The woolly mammoth. Yeah. That was human involvement.   Yeah.   Yeah.  



[01:29:13] Jesse Fries:

Could be that the ice age was ended. I don't know.  

[01:29:17] Jamon Fries:

And now   they claim to have revived the dire wolf,   which What exactly is a thing ten thousand years ago? It's a wolf that's,   about one and a half times, if not larger than   the normal wolf. Jesus Christ. Yeah. We'll see if it's huge ass fucking wolf.  

[01:29:40] Jesse Fries:

Why would we want this?  

[01:29:42] Jamon Fries:

I don't know.  

[01:29:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, I remember the woolly mouse that they created. And you know something?   They they they I I claim what they're doing is bullshit. 100% bullshit. Now they are creating these things, but   I'm not saying that they're not creating these things, but they're not bringing these species back. What they're doing is they're taking the current species,   manipulating the genetics to try to get as close to what it was. Yes. But they're not actually bringing back that animal.  

[01:30:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. No. With with the dire wolf, there there are a few existing genetic   maps of the dire wolf. Right.   And so they took a gray wolf and adjusted its genes to make it white and larger.   I mean, that that's not bringing back the dire wolf. That's creating a new fucking monster.  

[01:30:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's complete bullshit. I don't see a point.   And where are you gonna release this fucker? I'm sorry.  

[01:30:36] Jamon Fries:

It's like   Yeah. They they've got they've got three of them, and they're being held in some location that they won't disclose.   Oh. That has, like, 2,000  

[01:30:50] Jesse Fries:

acres or something like that. Well, there's enough land in Texas to do it. But yeah. It's Yeah.  

[01:30:56] Jamon Fries:

But, I mean, a dire wolf, really.   We have enough problem with regular sized wolves. Do we really need a dire wolf?  

[01:31:04] Jesse Fries:

These people are boring.   Yeah. They're bored. They they apparently, they need something to do. But Yeah. No. I I I I it's not bringing these animals back from extinction. No. It's It is not.   No. You know, now if you have the DNA and you can actually make that DNA work,   fine. You're bringing it back. Yeah. But if you have to   try to get the as close as possible,   it's not the same thing. No. It's not. And, you know, and And all that's gonna happen is we're gonna kill it off again. Yeah. The the funniest thing is  

[01:31:36] Jamon Fries:

is when you listen to what they're saying,   they're like,   as long as it looks like a dire wolf, that means it's dire wolf.  

[01:31:48] Jesse Fries:

No. No. It doesn't.   No. It means it means it's a wolf.   Yes. It means it's a big wolf. It's a altered wolf.   Yes.   I swear to god these people. Yeah.  

[01:32:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   On kind of a cooler side   Uh-huh. There is a tree   in   the,   believe it's in Brazil. It's in the rainforest   That   uses   lightning   to clear the area around   it. So   they they can they usually track,   massive lightning strikes and stuff like that. And they go back and they they'll take a picture of the area   now, and then they'll take a picture of it, like, two, three years later to see how it's affected the trees and everything. Uh-huh.   And they've they've found that there's this one specific type of tree. It's a tropical tree   that acts as a lightning rod.  

Uh-huh. What it does is it's the it's one of the tallest trees in the area, so it gets struck.  

[01:32:59] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:33:02] Jamon Fries:

Well,   it being struck   kills off   all of the   vines that have that have twined themselves around it.   Uh-huh.   And   it kills off some of the trees within, like, a 50   yards of it.  

[01:33:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I see the story. The strike damaged a 15   surrounding trees.   Yeah.   And they which died within two years. That is crazy.  

[01:33:35] Jamon Fries:

So it it and the the lightning itself does not affect this tree at all.  

[01:33:40] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:33:42] Jamon Fries:

And so it just completely clears it out.  

[01:33:45] Jesse Fries:

The before and after pictures. So that is quite yeah. It was like It's a huge it's a shocking difference.   Yeah. Vines and everything like that all over there. It looks like it was being strangled to death. Yeah.  

[01:33:56] Jamon Fries:

And then now Two years later, it's completely clear. Not a single vine anywhere.  

[01:34:01] Jesse Fries:

Interesting. That is kinda cool.  

[01:34:04] Jamon Fries:

That is The things that nature does, I mean, damn.  

[01:34:07] Jesse Fries:

I know. I know. That is crazy. That is really crazy.   Yeah.   That is   Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yep. Yep. So China's closer to commercial fusion?  

[01:34:22] Jamon Fries:

That is what they claim anyways.  

[01:34:24] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:34:25] Jamon Fries:

We don't know exactly how accurate. I don't know how exactly how accurate it is. I mean,   you never know coming out of out of other countries just how true they are. But   according to this, the reason that they think that is because they have gotten the magnets   Uh-huh.   To   create a magnetical force to hold that is much larger than any any current known   ex in existence.   Okay. So they've been pretty seven Tesla? Whatever that is. I don't know. But it's it's more than any other reactor anywhere has ever been able to to have the magnetic powers up to you. So   with that, they believe that they can control the fusion a lot better, and so they they think that they're pretty close.  



[01:35:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Possibly. Possibly. That'd be cool. They keep being able to hold it for longer and longer and longer. So that is pretty cool.  

[01:35:20] Jamon Fries:

I mean and and it is all about the magnetism, you know, the the way it's currently being the way that we're current the way we currently look at, few at my at fusion.   It's all about the magnetism and being able to control the reactions. So the stronger the magnet is, the much better for that.  

[01:35:37] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely. Completely.   Let's see. Oh, it's getting late. We're running over time. Oh. Just a little bit. Yeah. Just a little bit.   Let let let's go cover this Harriet Tubman thing here. So so, apparently, there's a Harriet Tubman controversy.   Okay. Basically, what it is is that   sometime in, like, March or February or something like that,   somebody changed the website.   Right?   And, basically, what the difference was is that they   at the very top of it, it's it had a picture of Harriet Tubman,   and then it had a quote. The quote was, I was the conductor of the Underground Railroad for eight years, and I could say what most conductors can't say. I never ran my train off the track, and I never lost a passenger. Harriet Tubman eighteen ninety six.  

Okay. So so there's that. And then now   or therefore a bit,   it was changed to where it was,   pictures   of stamps   of the people that ran the Underground Railroad.   So it has,   Harriet Tubman.   It   has,   Frederick Douglass.   It it it has   quite a few like like, some blacks and white that were in the Underground Railroad. Okay? Right.   So they got rid of the quote and everything like that. And then they changed a little bit in   the actual website and everything like that.   Okay. I probably wouldn't make all the changes that they did, but most of them were just small tweaks.   Right. But, apparently, this is like a huge uproar,   and people   were, like, so upset about it.  

I to me, this is such a   you every so often, you go and you clean up websites. You change websites and everything like that. Oh, yeah. To me, that that's all this is.   It's been reverted back to what it was,   because there is a huge uproar about it. Okay. But   in general, just looking at it, it's   just small tweaks here and there.   They took a good chunk that really said a lot, but   so so you could replace, like, the first paragraph. But beyond that, it's like one paragraph that, was taken out.   But that her that Harriet Tubman quote sucked. I'm sorry. You you know? And she has much better quotes.   So what what it's like, oh, they took out her quote. Okay. How about we put a better one? You know? It's like,   let's see. Here's what. Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars, to change the world.  

I like that one. Definitely sounds like a much better quote. Right. Right. Let's see here.   Here, I had a reason.   I had recent this out in my mind. There was on of two things I had a right to, liberty or death. If I could not have one, I would   I would have the other, for no man shall take me alive.   Yep. I  

[01:38:44] Jamon Fries:

I think that's much more powerful. Pretty strong one. Yeah. Right. Right.  

[01:38:50] Jesse Fries:

Every great dream begins with a dreamer. You know? You know, kind of   the MLK sort of situation. You know? It's,   so,   yeah, I I I think it's a controversy that isn't much of anything. I think it was just some guy that was trying to tweak the websites.   Mhmm. I I I   the the news stories that we're talking about this showed said that there was, like, a nefarious actor involved or something like that, but   I I I don't buy it. I really don't buy it. It just seems like normal things.   You know?  

[01:39:26] Jamon Fries:

Somebody was probably paid to go in and update the websites, which happens from time to time. Yep. Yep. Yep. And,   you know, they  

[01:39:38] Jesse Fries:

yeah. I I don't know. I've I've never actually seen the website itself. But, Yeah. No. It it it's in the show notes. You you can go and look at it. But bay it was   yeah. No. They they   the only main difference is that it's like   one of the things in the old one, it's it talks about, oh, we shouldn't call them,   escapees or, you know, things like that, fugitive slaves. We should call them freedom seekers. You know? It's like Mhmm.   Okay.   I I find that to be   pedantic, but, you know, it's it's okay. Freedom seekers? Okay. Whatever. But Yeah. That was basically about it from what I could tell. So  

[01:40:16] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:40:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I didn't see much in it really personally, but,   I I know some people were upset by that. But, Yeah. Yeah.   But you can't really be upset. Well, I guess the cops could be upset with this one. So, apparently, some German police, they they found a body in the forest. Right?   And they spent five hours trying to   investigate this dead body   of a sex doll.  

[01:40:50] Jamon Fries:

Bad.  

[01:40:53] Jesse Fries:

You gotta love it when, they even had the forensic team out there, everything like that. It was like  

[01:40:58] Jamon Fries:

it's like, didn't you poke it? Didn't you, like, touch it to see if it was real or something? You know, I I Yeah. Yeah. You know, the first clue should have been the latex feel when you touched it.  

[01:41:08] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Oh oh,   after five hours of meticulous examination, an investigator finally touched the corpse   and made a startling discovery.   It was not human.  

[01:41:25] Jamon Fries:

Oh god.  

[01:41:29] Jesse Fries:

Love it. Wow. Yeah.  

[01:41:31] Jamon Fries:

I wonder if it was the medical examiner. You know, they bring him out, and they're like,   why the fuck did you bring me out here for this crap? After five hours call. I know. After five hours, you decide to touch it.  

[01:41:44] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Wow. Well,   with that, thank you for joining us for episode 32 of the Mindless Me Under Eats podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries.   And you guys have a great week.