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- Jesse Fries

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(00:00:20) Jesse's Cheap

(00:03:15) Tariffs, litigation, and who really pays

(00:07:02) Energy policy shifts and green funding cuts by state

(00:10:38) Rural infrastructure: power grids, fiber, and satellite Internet

(00:14:21) Shutdown talk: benefits eligibility and immigration status nuances

(00:18:56) ACA subsidies, COVID-era credits, and insurance sticker shock

(00:22:39) Cash vs insurance, hospital billing, and write-offs

(00:27:22) Do insurers really lower costs? Negotiations and realities

(00:30:21) What is in the shutdown bills? PBS, security, and foreign funds

(00:33:29) Courts, TPS, and National Guard deployment limits

(00:36:39) Sanctuary cities, funding cuts, and federal–local cooperation

(00:41:06) Immigration history, capacity, and settlement patterns

(00:45:39) Climate vs politics: where to live?

(00:47:20) Celebrity case, victimhood narratives, and media framing

(00:48:54) Seattle camera registry debate and AI-deepfake evidence concerns

(00:53:59) Judges, media rushes to judgment, and crime coverage contrasts

(01:01:00) News industry tie-ups: BBC and CBS partnership

(01:01:51) Middle East updates: negotiations, hostages, and headlines

(01:05:51) Activism at sea: flotillas, deportations, and claims

(01:10:50) France politics: record-short PM tenure

(01:11:50) Synagogue attack fallout and UK police response questions

(01:13:11) Iran acquittal in espionage case and EU textile rules

(01:18:14) Policy tradeoffs: energy, reactionary governance, and costs

(01:19:14) Australia shooting, gun laws, and alternative weapons

(01:21:27) Show support, schedule notes, and Supreme Court docket items

(01:23:10) Hawaii gun-carry case: private property permissions

(01:25:12) Studies on studies—and a claim of alien DNA

(01:29:02) EV story skepticism and spotting sponsored content

(01:29:34) Pentagon Pizza Report: reading tea leaves in delivery data

(01:32:01) Sign-off

[00:00:20] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon, everybody.   It is October 6, and it's a Monday, I believe. And we are live with episode number 68   of the mindless meanderings.   I'm Jesse Fries, and   I'm too   cheap to pay for some person's   manual labor sometimes. You know?  

[00:00:42] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries, and   I was able to walk without using a walker.  

[00:00:50] Jesse Fries:

Nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah.  

[00:00:53] Jamon Fries:

Well, I felt I felt a lot of pressure on my knee, but I didn't feel pain this time around. Okay. Now I   walked a little too much after having not experienced the pain that I was used to. Right. Right. So when I went to bed last night, my knee was bugging me, but,   that that that went away and I've I was able to to,   walk decently with a walker again today. I haven't tried walking without just yet. I'm gonna let it rest for a day. That's a really good sign. That's a really good sign. Yeah.  

[00:01:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. The   what? Like, last Tuesday or something like that, I, like, trimmed a tree. Right?   Yeah.   And   need to get rid of the   leftovers and everything like that. And so we were calling around checking it out, and we are quoted $250   to for them to take it away. And and it's just a small pile. It's a decent sized pile, but it's just a small pile, you know. And it's a good   yeah. No. Even with gas and disposal fee, that seems a bit high, you know, because I moved all of it myself because to get out of the front yard for the HOA, you know, and everything like that. Yep. I moved into the backyard, and then I'll slowly throw it into the trash over time. Okay.   But, basically, it took me about twenty minutes.  

One person, twenty minutes to move it from the front to the back. And it was right next to the curb. So it would have been about twenty minutes worth of work. And so it wouldn't have even been that because all they would have done is they would have pulled up an empty an empty trailer.  

[00:02:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And it would have taken them maybe ten minutes to throw everything into the trailer. Exactly. Exactly. They had to go, oh, it's a $50,  

[00:02:32] Jesse Fries:

disposal fee and then gas. And I'm like, oh, and like, so if you have two people, you could easily get that done in ten minutes. And then you're trying to charge   me, like, a higher $50 for ten minutes worth of work. It's not worth it. No. No. I'll just do it myself. I'll just do it myself. So it's like Absolutely.   Yeah. I almost paid it, but I'm like, what?   It's $250   I could spend on something else.  

[00:02:57] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[00:02:59] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So yeah. I'm cheap.  

[00:03:05] Jamon Fries:

Welcome to the family.  

[00:03:07] Jesse Fries:

Well, if you could do it, you know, I don't see Yeah. Yeah. You know?   And we've never been afraid of work, really. So   Yeah.   Yep. Yep. Well, let's see.   I'm like,   especially if you get paid, you know, and right now apparently wants to just pay us all, like, a thousand or $2,000   from the tariffs that he's collected.  

[00:03:29] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:03:30] Jesse Fries:

So instead of paying off the debt, you know Right. Which which is where the which would be the best thing to do with it. I would think so. I would think so. No. He he wants to give that, to us,   which is funny because, technically, this is it's held up in court. The court court has decided the tariff court has said that you can't do these tariffs.  

[00:03:51] Jamon Fries:

Right. Yeah.  

[00:03:52] Jesse Fries:

So that's   like it it it that money is tied up in litigation anyway. So,   you know, it's not even  

[00:04:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Apparently Well, I I I don't think I don't think the money is tied up in litigation. No. It would be because it Future money is. No. No. No. No. Current.   Everything that's been taken in So, basically, what they're saying is that they would have to pay everything back. Oh, wow. Wow.  

[00:04:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's what the court decided. They they they put off the final decision   for it to go up to the Supreme Court and everything like that. Right.   But that was the decision.   Oh, man.   Wow. Yeah. If you can't enforce the tariffs, you can't you couldn't put them in to begin with. And so you have to pay back all those fees, which technically, in the end, the companies are the ones paying it or or they're passing it on to us. You know? So it's like, yeah.  

[00:04:49] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, I mean, that that that works then. Yeah. Return that money. Give it back to us.  

[00:04:56] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. Some companies aren't,   passing it No. I know. I know. Yeah. It's like, Apple's their their their new phones, they really didn't go up with the cost of, tariffs. Mhmm. They're just eating cost. So Yeah.  

[00:05:10] Jamon Fries:

Well I mean, you know, when when you've got profit margins   as long as as far as most companies do Uh-huh.   Eating a little,   what, maybe point 5%   tax?  

[00:05:23] Jesse Fries:

No. That, like,   Apple's would be a lot more because it's iPhones, and so it's a high priced item, and it's come from China, which has the highest tariffs. So   Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. So it'd be a lot more. But it it there's their private margins are still ridiculous. So Yeah. Or because, I mean, with most with most industries, it's just parts that they're buying from overseas. Right. Right. Well, everything is put together in China.  

[00:05:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So with Apple, since everything's put together in China, it would be on the total price of the Yeah. I think they put some things together in India, but that's mostly,  

[00:05:59] Jesse Fries:

like, for the Indian market, I believe. But I know they do   do some in India   because there was an Indian law that passed that said you have to,   produce in India.   So Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So Yep. Yeah.   But no. Apparently, Trump thinks that because in the same thing where he was, like, giving a little whatever talk on the,   dividend, the $2,000 dividend. He he says, oh, don't worry about the debt because we we'll just spend our way out of it. So  

[00:06:33] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you gotta remember. He is a classic liberal, and that is the legal thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, what, our economists keep telling us. We'll just spend our way out of it. Yeah. Those are the liberal They've been telling they've been telling us that for the last fifty, sixty years, and   it's worked wonderfully so far. Oh, it really has. Right?   Yeah. Yeah. Talking about   government   and stuff like that.   So   you you you've heard about the,   Department of Energy and the cuts that they've that they're doing and stuff like that.   Right? Now the the big change from going away from from green   technology   towards get it towards going more towards,   oil?  



[00:07:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:07:29] Jamon Fries:

Well,   so   TechCrunch, one of the one of the websites that I that I go to for tech news Mhmm.   Put had an article   that reveals how chaotic   the politics behind Trump's energy department cuts are.  

[00:07:48] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:07:49] Jamon Fries:

Because they found that   the large majority of the cuts are happening in blue states.  

[00:07:57] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:07:58] Jamon Fries:

Well, what they fail to mention is that it's the blue states that are implementing   programs   such as   going pure solar and wind. It's those states Yep. That are that are doing   basically   every all of the green stuff.   No. All of the green energy sources, it's coming from those blue states. The red states I mean, sure, they're touching it a little bit, but not nearly as heavily.  

[00:08:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Well, except maybe Texas, because Texas really has been shifting   to quite a lot of green energy as well. I I think Texas And Texas is getting hit with with a decent number of cuts too. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. But, yeah, in general, the red states plus the red states,   there's not as many people in the red states except for Texas and Florida. Right. You know, every those those are the two big red states, and then everybody else is just   barely any population. You know? No no no offense, to the red states out there. But it it's just what it is. You know? It's,   like Kansas, there's not that many people in Kansas. You know? No.  

Oklahoma, there's, like, nobody. Nebraska, there's nobody.   Or Dakota, there really is nobody. You know?   So yeah. It's it only makes sense. You know? It's, Yeah.  

[00:09:19] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I mean and and a lot of this stuff that's being cut, it's like they they were gonna be giving California $630,000,000   to revamp their electrical grid Mhmm.   So that it could supply   green energy instead of other energies. And Well, what's the difference on that?   I don't know.   That's, Electric well, the the difference could be,   related to, like, the the huge blackout that they had Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where you I could be. If where to eliminate the redone the,   the inconsistencies   in green energy Mhmm. They would have had to have beefed stuff up.  

Right.   So that could be why they needed to spend that much?  

[00:10:10] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see that. I could see that.  

[00:10:12] Jamon Fries:

But, I mean, like, in Oregon, they they were gonna spend $250,000,000   to make sure that a tribe out in the middle   of pretty much nowhere, you know, no man's land Right.   Could get renewable   energy. And along with it, we're all gonna give you a fiber optic line so you have high speed Internet. Well, you might as well do it all at once. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Yeah.   Well, if you're gonna string up the lines anyway Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. Absolutely. It actually does make sense. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. Yes.   But   those fiber optic lines and stuff like that, that's   the the the issue that I have with that stuff is, you know, with the with power,   that is fully regulated by the government. Right. The fiber optic lines and the Internet, it all depends on the Internet providers that that are near them.  

Right. Right. The the government's not going to see a penny   from putting those fiber optic lines in. It's just going to benefit   a k a cable company, an Internet company. Well, no. It's probably using that fund,  

[00:11:22] Jesse Fries:

that is on the telephone bills,   to actually pay for it because of that there's a fund there. I can't remember what it's called,   but there's a fund there that   basic funds   rural Internet,   basically, so that everybody can actually have access to Internet. So more than likely, the fund would come from that. The ISP   would probably not need to actually pay for it. It'd probably just come out of that fund, and then the ISP could make money off of this providing the service. Well yeah. Yeah. That that's that's what I'm saying, though, is that  

[00:11:57] Jamon Fries:

the ISP is the one that's gonna be making a shit ton of money without putting anything into it. Well, you  

[00:12:04] Jesse Fries:

I I'm I'm not sure about that because you have to they probably also have to upkeep it. And then also how many people are gonna be on this. You know? It's like Well, yeah. I mean, it's it's it's might be more of a hassle to the ISP, though. You know? It probably would be because it's,  

[00:12:20] Jamon Fries:

you know, the Confederated   Tribes of Warm Springs, Oregon  

[00:12:24] Jesse Fries:

Right. Where it was going. So, I mean, we're not talking lots of customers there. Yeah. No. Exactly. Exactly. So more than likely, it it it was just it'd be a hassle that they just have to deal with. You know? It's,   that that's how I view. No no offense to, those tribes up there or anything like that. Oh, no. Absolutely. When you're dealing with small communities and everything like that in the middle of nowhere,   it it could be a problem for a lot of these companies to actually Yeah. Provide  

[00:12:50] Jamon Fries:

reliable service out there. So Oh, it absolutely can. I mean, that that's why right now, the satellite Internet seems to be one of the best options for many,  

[00:13:00] Jesse Fries:

for many places out in the Just get everybody a a Starlink. Come on. Yeah.  

[00:13:05] Jamon Fries:

Or one of the other numerous one the ones that are starting to put satellites up in space as well. Well, right. Right. I saw a report that there was one. They just put a satellite up there, and they they tested it to make sure that they could transfer secured information, and it didn't lose its secured aspect. So   they're they're getting ready to put even more satellites up there for Internet.  

[00:13:29] Jesse Fries:

They have one, and Musk has 10,000,000.   Exactly.   Yes.   The satellite trains are coming. Let's go around the boom. Yeah. It's, yeah.  

[00:13:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. At some point in time,   the climatologists   won't have to do anything because we'll have put so many freaking satellites into space just so that everybody can have Internet.   No. Yeah. It'll block out the sun anyways.  

[00:13:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Well, astronomers are all are you complaining about that? They're, like, going Oh, yeah. Too many satellites. Too many satellites. Oh, yeah. You can't see the stars anymore. You can't. Or you start to see one of the of a sudden it blocks a supernova. You go, damn it. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:14:16] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. Yes.  

[00:14:21] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. What else we got? Shutdown stuff? Do we have any shutdown stuff? We do.   Uh-huh.  

[00:14:27] Jamon Fries:

I ran across a couple of things. And one of them is an old story, but   it's very relevant today to today. Uh-huh.  

[00:14:37] Jesse Fries:

So by old, I mean, as of April. So, you know, that's old. That's old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:14:49] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah   provide benefits to illegals. Right?   Right. This this goes to prove that we're we're not doing that. Uh-huh.   Well, that's not really true.   So   according to the laws and regulations   Mhmm.   It says   that   they,   so what what essentially, what it what the law says   is that   anyone that is not lawfully   present   cannot receive benefits.   Okay.   But if you're on parole, which a large portion of them were put on parole Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can receive benefits around if you're on parole, you can receive benefits if you have the temporary protected status.   Mhmm. You can receive,   you can receive them if you're a Cuban or Haitian or or from Haiti   Right. Right now.  

If you're aliens with deferred action, you can you can receive them.   If you're an alien with a deferred enforcement   enforced departure, if it's been deferred, you can receive them. If you're an asylum   applicant, you can receive them.   So we have   millions of people that   are technically,   lawfully present, but are not here legally.  

[00:16:29] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[00:16:32] Jamon Fries:

That re that are eligible to receive benefits based on the wordings of   the law   before the big beautiful bill. Okay. The big beautiful bill shut that off.  

[00:16:44] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.  

[00:16:47] Jamon Fries:

So I I I was always wondering, you know, how can they say that they're not supposed that they're not legal that they that it's not legal for an illegal immigrant to get the these stuff when there are so many getting it, then now I know why. Yeah. It's like a semantic it's a semantic argument. Yes. You know? It absolutely is. Yes. Okay. Yeah. No. Which is usually  

[00:17:06] Jesse Fries:

how   these arguments in between the parties when it comes to live TV.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. It always comes down to what do you what does is mean? What is is? You know, it's Yep. So   No. It makes sense. Makes sense.  

[00:17:21] Jamon Fries:

And so another thing that I've that I   was looking into is   so now that they're now that the Democrats are saying it's not about the illegal aliens anymore   Mhmm. Or, you know, they said it never was. But now that now that they've dropped that aspect out potentially,   now they're talking about   how people are going to   have to spend a lot more money on insurance   for health insurance   than they normally than than they've had to in the past. Right? Right. Yeah. Yep.   But I'm   slightly   confused   about something.   Mhmm.   So   the reason that they're gonna have to spend more money is because they're going to   they're not they would stop paying out the,   the credits that were given to them when   with the COVID relief stuff happened. Mhmm.  

But   not everybody   that has insurance   got these credits.  

[00:18:32] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:18:33] Jamon Fries:

It was only the people under the   Obamacare,   the ACA   Right. That received   cuts, that received the bet the   the relief   from high insurance prices. Right. Right. Right. Completely. Yep. Everybody else has to keep paying their stuff. Yep. Just like normal. Mhmm.   Doesn't this mean that   the ACA   is what needs to be corrected?   I I would think so. I would think so. Because if it's if it's making it so that   someone   I mean,   they as an example, they were they they gave this example on one of the news articles that I on one of the news shows that I watched Mhmm. That somebody paying, like,   $250   for insurance now   with a month was going to have to start paying over $2,000   a month for insurance.  

Right.   Which means   that right now,   you are giving them   about $1,750   towards their medical bills. Yeah. Medical stuff. Yeah. No.  

[00:19:47] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It   it's it's I mean,   it was basically a stopgap during COVID when you lose your job. Yeah. That sort of thing. That that's what you were signed for.   And now, you know, chickens are coming to roost, and now all of a sudden, they realize you know, these people are realizing, well, the ACA isn't doing crap. You know? It it's, the ACA is so freaking expensive.   Yeah. And the the and that 2,000 is probably with, like, a 15,000 deductible. You know? It's Oh, yeah. Probably. Yeah.   Yeah. No. It's a joke. The the health system in The United States is really a joke. We we are paying way too much for it.   I don't think we should go government. I don't think that. I think we should No. No.  

Basically,   maybe limit   insurance just to, like,   important things. You you you know, like massive surgeries. You you you know, beyond that, you know, just pay out of pocket. It'll be cheaper for you. If I go if I go in to see my doctor  

[00:20:45] Jamon Fries:

for the   I mean, every year, I have to go in for the Medicare check. Mhmm.   My insurance doesn't need to pay for that.   Right.   It's not like I'm doing it's not like it would be a major expense.  

[00:21:02] Jesse Fries:

No. It wouldn't. It'd be like a $100.   Yeah. We don't know. Test maybe another 100, you know, if you want to test. Yeah. If you're paying, you could go I'm gonna be the bloodline. I'm feeling like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:21:14] Jamon Fries:

The the thing that I really need the insurance for is if I get hospitalized, because hospital bills are freaking massive.  

[00:21:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And the the plans that cover that really don't even cover that. It's hilarious. You know? Yeah. It's like, what's the point? It's like, I've also seen these things where it's like,   a guy calls up the hospital and goes, okay. I have this procedure. How much is it gonna cost?   And they go, well, with your insurance and everything like that, it'll be,   $2,000   out of pocket to you. He goes, okay. How about if I just pay cash? Oh, they go, oh, that'll be about 1,200.  

[00:21:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:21:53] Jesse Fries:

Without a doubt. Yes. I'll pay cash then. You know? Screw it. Yeah. Yeah. It it makes more sense.  

[00:21:58] Jamon Fries:

It it really does.   Just being able to do that work shows   Unfortunately, that's something that most people don't have the option for. No. Yeah. Because, you know, if you're covered by the insurance, every procedure has to go through that insurance.   No. I understand. The only time you have the option of paying out of pocket is if your insurance   denies   the claim.  

[00:22:23] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. But, you know, you   I I'm so tempted just to, like, never tell them I have insurance. And then if it's really bad, then I'll tell them. Because it's just pathetic, you know. It's Yep.   Just just just give me the service for what it costs. Don't don't don't add all these fees. You you know? Yes.   One of our brothers works in the   insurance industry. You you know, apparently, like, tied to,   the the the big boy out of Minnesota. You know, the guy that the CEO was shot. Whatever. United. There you go.   He he works, like, through,   basically for them.  

And, you know, you know, he's all defending them and everything like that. And I'm just like, oh,   let me just pay cash, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I know that's your job. That's cool and everything like that. But  

[00:23:09] Jamon Fries:

no. I I I knew I knew   that there was problems the very first time I ever heard somebody   say that   it's cheaper   for someone with no insurance to go to the hospital than someone with insurance to go to the hospital.  

[00:23:26] Jesse Fries:

It is by far. Yeah. It it it was like   it was like, right after college,   I I like, half my face went numb and everything like that. So I went to the grocery store. That. Yeah. I I do you know how much that cost me?   How much? Not a penny.   Really? I didn't have insurance. It didn't cost me a penny.  

[00:23:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They did a CT scan. They did all all that and nothing.   Dude, it cost me a penny.   They didn't send you a bill? No. They just wrote it off.   Yeah. So,   you know, it's just  

[00:24:07] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. No. I mean, that's that's true. I've never   even before I was on   even before I went went on the disability and had Medicare   Mhmm. I never received a bill for   for the emergency room visits.   Right?  

[00:24:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I was up in Michigan. So   Okay.   Yeah. No. I it's   I the I think these hospitals make so much money that they could just write things off. It's just Oh, they go Yeah. They go, okay. They they they look at the case. They go, is there any chance of us actually getting anything out of this, you know? Or is it, like, trying to bleed a turnip, you know? It's like Yep.  

[00:24:51] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Well, it's like there there was one time I went into the hospital, and   I   stay I was hospitalized for, like, a week to a week and a half, something like that. Uh-huh.   And   I get the bill   and   it's a significant bill even after insurance, you know. It's   like, $89,000   because of all the different doctors that that had to look at my paperwork to see if it was this or that or Uh-huh. Other thing.   And I called I I was talking to the I called the hospital up to the billing department, and they're like, well, yeah. I mean, if but if you fill this form out   that says that you're low income,   you won't have to pay anything.  



[00:25:40] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep. So I'm like, okay. That's what I'll do then.   Yeah. Yeah. I'll fill that out. It wouldn't be true when I fill it out.   I see. For me, it would be true. Yeah. I understand. I understand. Yeah. It's Yeah.   Yeah. No.   The health system   how we pay for it is just screwy, and it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And we're propping up these huge   insurance companies  

[00:26:07] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   With  

[00:26:09] Jesse Fries:

with tens of thousands of employees   Yeah. That we all have to pay for   Right. That if they weren't there, we wouldn't have to pay for their jobs.   Yeah. And so you can't tell them that they would be cheaper.  

[00:26:21] Jamon Fries:

To me, the funniest thing about this is is that these insurance companies, they go and they negotiate with the hospitals   to   limit the costs.   Right?  

[00:26:33] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:26:34] Jamon Fries:

But if such a if such a large group with so many people   limits costs and yet still costs more than people without insurance  

[00:26:44] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:26:47] Jamon Fries:

Either, a, they're really bad at their job  

[00:26:51] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:26:52] Jamon Fries:

Or they they pump everything   up so much before negotiating.  

[00:26:59] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Completely.  

[00:27:01] Jamon Fries:

Completely. Yep. I I can't think of any other way. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. Yeah. Because each one they they they the way that they all wanna patent, you know. Yeah. But I mean, because because if if you would think about it, if you're not part of ins the reason that we pay insurance   is so that we can so that we can pay less than we would have to if we were uninsured.  

[00:27:22] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:27:23] Jamon Fries:

But we actually don't.   Mhmm. So   now, you know, for large procedures and stuff like that, yeah. If you've got cancer,   God forbid, or you've got, you know, any of those other numerous things that are life threatening that that will involve a lot of time in a hospital   Mhmm. Insurance by far is going to save you a lot of money.   But  

[00:27:46] Jesse Fries:

for just normal stuff? No. Not at all. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. You know? It's like, who cares about the normal stuff? You you could pay that piecemeal. Doctors will be better off. They won't have to hire two or three people to handle the insurance on their end, and then Oh, yeah. You'll have to pay the insurance company to handle that.   The   you know? Just   that you won't have all these regulations coming from, the   insurance companies. You're good. Oh, no. You can't do that procedure and then do this and that. Yeah. You you know, it's like,   okay. Yeah. I can't do a procedure. Okay. I'm just paying for it on a pie.  



[00:28:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:28:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Too expensive.   Too expensive, especially when   health insurance gets up to thousands of dollars. Yeah. It's like yeah.   I don't know. You you know what I always wonder is, so when you get health insurance through a company, they go, oh, we're paying this much to the insurance company. It's like, are you really? I want   how much they're   Yeah. Yeah. You know, because as an employee, we're   you're generally paying a good chunk.   You know,   the the company goes, oh, yeah. We're we're covering a lot of cost for you. And I'm like, are you really? I don't know. Or did you get some deal with them to where you're barely paying anything? You know, it's Right. Yeah.  

[00:29:04] Jamon Fries:

You never know. You never know. You know. Some some companies are up or some companies are good about it, and they actually   do pay a lot, and some just get the cheapest shit that they could that they can find. And Oh, yeah. Yeah. Don't and let the employee cover 80% of it. No. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like,  

[00:29:25] Jesse Fries:

GM, they they do really well. You know, they they they take care of it as well. You know? It's it's even for, like, eyeglasses, you know? It's like you Oh, yeah. You go into, like, a vision works or something like that, and they go,   oh, you can get anything, and it'll be a $100.   You know? It's   No. Anything you want. You know? Gucci, go for it. This, go for it. You know? It's just  

[00:29:48] Jamon Fries:

Nice.   Yep. Yep. So and the last the last thing I have about the, shutdown   Mhmm.   Is   so the the on x, there was somebody that went through   and read the read the bill   Right. To see   where all the other where what was it the Democrats were trying to put into the bill that   is causing them to not   to not vote for it? Mhmm.  

[00:30:20] Jesse Fries:

So  

[00:30:22] Jamon Fries:

strangest things, you know, they're they're saying this all about health insurance, and that's the that's the reason that they're that   the people's in health insurance is gonna be more expensive and that's why they're not going to   vote to pass it. Right. But   490,000,000   in their bill in their in their   revision   would go to PBS.  

[00:30:48] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They they they wanna put back in the PBS,   money.  

[00:30:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. A 157,000,000   would be set aside for Congress itself   for security for members of Congress, residential security systems.   Okay. Okay. How much? So 157,000,000.   Holy shit. Okay.   To beef up their home security.  

[00:31:12] Jesse Fries:

So half a million a person or something like that? About that. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:31:17] Jamon Fries:

10,000,000   for upgrades in security to the state office.  

[00:31:22] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:31:24] Jamon Fries:

A 174,000   each to three dead members of congress.  

[00:31:33] Jesse Fries:

What now?  

[00:31:34] Jamon Fries:

So there were three   three members of congress that are deceased now. Uh-huh. I I don't know anything about them. I don't know if they were if they were murdered, if they just died of natural causes. Well, we woulda heard about a murder. So   Right. Right. So I but   they want to give the family members of those congregate of those three dead members   a $174,000   each.  

[00:32:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay. How about you just pool your money and give it to them? You know? Yeah. Sounds like a better thing to me, you know? That sounds like a you thing, not a me thing. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:32:12] Jamon Fries:

And then the last one that they're holding out for   is   $4,377,000,000   dollars   for the European   Bank of Reconstruction   and Development.  

[00:32:27] Jesse Fries:

For what? Ukraine?  

[00:32:29] Jamon Fries:

It doesn't say.  

[00:32:32] Jesse Fries:

It's gotta be for Ukraine. Probably. Oy. There's $437,000,000  

[00:32:36] Jamon Fries:

to give to the European Bank of Restriction and redevelopment.  

[00:32:40] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. Not needed. Not needed. That's what they're shutting the government down for. Yeah. It sounds about right. Sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they they wanna give PBS back that 1% of their money.   You know? Because the the the government only really gave them about 1% of their budget. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they're, like, all complaining about 1%   of a budget. You know? It's like Yeah. Well, that that's like nothing, dude. You know? Okay. You cut maybe, like, one show, you know, or something. You know? It's not a it's not that big of a deal. It's 1%. Right. Yeah. It's  

[00:33:16] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:33:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   So that's interesting.   That is interesting.  

[00:33:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that that's what they're holding up the government for, is that and, you know, the ACA problems.  

[00:33:29] Jesse Fries:

That makes sense. Makes sense.   Mhmm. Looks like the judges are in the news right now. Looks like, Supreme Court,   they   said once again that, Trump can cancel the temporary protections for Venezuelans,   granted under Biden. So yeah. They they had already said it, and then the judge says, well, no. And now the   and now the Supreme Court is going, well, yeah.   And so it's basically that sort of thing. You know? You know? Yeah.   It gets really stupid. You know? It's,  

[00:33:59] Jamon Fries:

oh, yeah.  

[00:34:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Then we have, the National Guard and everything like that trying to get into Portland and everything.   Yes. And then there's a judge that's getting in the way of that,   who said that,   Trump can't raise up the Oregon   National Guard. She said that on Saturday.   And so   Trump goes, okay. Well, we'll just bring him in from California   and from Texas.  

[00:34:26] Jamon Fries:

And now I I saw just before the show that a judge has ordered that they can't bring him in from California either. Yeah. Yeah. She she decided she decided that yesterday.  

[00:34:36] Jesse Fries:

It was she it was just wham, bam, bam, bam, and she's going, no. No. You're trying to get around what I was saying. And   so   the the judge is a Trump appointee.   So Yeah. I, you know, I don't I I really don't know what's going on with that. You know? It's,   I I can understand the language and everything like that.   The way it can   generally reads is that it has to be like a true emergency,   not just   but but   but it it's   this because there's another case actually that kinda falls into this because   Mhmm.   There's   a lot of these, like like, Los Angeles, Chicago,   Portland, and everything like that. The locals are not helping the federals at all. They got Yeah. Helping ICE. They're not doing they're actually hindering. Apparently, there is one,   it was over the,   police scanner   in Chicago.  

Yep.   The ICE, there is a accident,   with   a where,   somebody   hit an ice vehicle.   And so they were gonna set the cops were gonna go, and then they were told to stand down.   The Chicago police were told to stand down.  

[00:35:56] Jamon Fries:

I don't think that one was an accident though, if it's the same one that I'm thinking of. Well, a guy rammed  

[00:36:02] Jesse Fries:

the ice.  

[00:36:04] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Beautiful. Yeah. Was was that the same one where   the ICE agents   shot an armed lady?  

[00:36:12] Jesse Fries:

No. I think it was a different one. I think it's a different one. Okay. Yep.  

[00:36:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Because because the one where she shot the unarmed where they shot the unarmed the armed lady, so sorry, not unarmed.   The that was one where, like, 10 vehicles had boxed them in and made it say they couldn't even get out of their vehicles. Right. Right. This one was it was there was one suspect,  

[00:36:34] Jesse Fries:

Hispanic male in black is I if I remember correctly.   Yeah. So yeah. But but they were told not to help or anything like that. Yep. And so, you know, it it it raises the question of these sanctuary cities. Right? It's like,   can these things actually do this? Is this does it even seem feasible? You know?   And   a judge in Boston,   actually   denied   because,   so   they denied sanctuary cities that request   to, block   the federal funding cuts. So, you know, Trump is, like,   cutting funds to sanctuary cities and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. And a judge in Boston said,   no. No.  

We we're not gonna stop those cuts.  

[00:37:21] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:37:22] Jesse Fries:

And, let's see here. Where where is he?   I'm trying to see. But, basically,   in   the decision, I I if I remember correctly, it was basically saying   you are going against federal   laws and mandates,   and you still expect money from the Fed?   You   know? It's like,   how does this equate?   And Yeah. You know, it's   where is it? I swear I should have written it down. But I think he also equated it to   basically, like, treason, basically.   So but that may have just been   something else. But, yeah, I I really don't understand how   cities can get away with this crap. I really don't or states. You know? It's like Yeah. No. I I've never understood that. And so when when you get that sort of thing where these states aren't doing what is   normal and right because Yeah. Before these sanctuary cities happen, the locals would always help the feds, and the feds would always help the locals.  

This is how it would always work. And this is the you could even say   that that is the historical   trend   that judges like to look at when it comes to whether or not something is constitutional,   if it's historical. You know, they they look at these things. Right?  

[00:38:49] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the only the only difference between the only difference as far as the feds and the locals were concerned back then   was not who's going to go and help when help's needed. It was who has jurisdiction   to actually be the lead of the investigation.  

[00:39:04] Jesse Fries:

Correct. But if somebody is if it's illegal,   the cop   can also do federal. You know? He can arrest for federal and then pass that on to the FBI or something. You know? Yep. Yep.   So, yeah, it   it's it's quite weird right now how the the sanctuary shades, they've been around since, what, w. Right?   It's been since Around then. Yeah. Yeah. Because he was doing things that they didn't like, and so he Yep.   So, yeah, it's   so twenty, twenty five years now, they've been around. Yeah. And they've never been I I don't understand why, but   the Fed has never  

[00:39:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I've never understood that either.  

[00:39:48] Jesse Fries:

Spot this. You know? They just go, okay. Well,  

[00:39:52] Jamon Fries:

I guess. Yeah. I've I've never understood why the Fed didn't do something about it. Because, I mean,   they have all the power to.  

[00:40:00] Jesse Fries:

They do. They do. And now it's not even it it's actually a hindrance. It's not just not helping.   It's people are attacking your buildings, but we're not gonna do anything about it. Yeah. People are attacking your men, getting in your men's way, and we're not gonna do anything about it. You you know, it's  

[00:40:20] Jamon Fries:

they are actually part of the resistance. It's People are destroying your vehicles when you go out to try to enforce the law.  

[00:40:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So we're not gonna do anything about it. But that's technically a local crime as well. It can be prosecuted both federally and locally.  

[00:40:36] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Indeed.  

[00:40:37] Jesse Fries:

And they're not doing that. So, yeah, I it's   it's a very funny thing that   needs to be  

[00:40:47] Jamon Fries:

figured out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:40:50] Jesse Fries:

You you know, it's like with the border. If it's on the border, it's all fed. Plain and simple. Yeah. Immigration, it's up to the fed. Nobody else. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's, Only the fed gets to decide for immigration.   Yeah. It's the only ones. So yeah.  

[00:41:07] Jamon Fries:

And it's not like there's a very glaring way that they can   solve the problem that they've that they've created, and that is by changing the immigration   law.   Right? Do it the legal way, and then nobody can enforce the law because it won't exist anymore.  

[00:41:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Just yeah. Exactly.   Exactly. And and, you know, it's like every a lot of people on the left, they they like to say that we're a land of immigrants. And, yes, we are. Yeah. I would agree with that.   But the way that they take it is that well and then they also add in that before, like, 19, what is it, 12 or something like that, there was   no immigration   standard or anything like that. If you come, you come. That's it. You know, there was nothing beyond that.   Okay. There is there is no law. There is really no immigration law, like, restricting who can come in, things like that Right. Except for medical reasons. If you had TB, whatnot, you're going Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   But   and and so basic and so they equate that. But, you know, we we have gotten to a size   in this nation where   you you kinda have to start to   be a little bit more picky about things. You know? It it's   unless if you're gonna create new cities, you know, throw them out into,   I don't know, Arizona   or something. I don't know where you could put I don't know   where would be a good place to have a city. You usually, you need a river or something for water, you know. But, well,  

[00:42:41] Jamon Fries:

you know, I I I heard one person say it in a way that   kind   of makes sense.   Mhmm.   Is that we are not a nation of immigrants.   Uh-huh.   We are a nation that was built by colonizers.   No. Yeah. Yeah. I I've heard that one. These people, they went out and they colonized   wherever they ended up.   Now that everything's been colonized,   and   I mean, I I disagree with it in some ways, but I can see the point they're trying to make. Yeah. I see the point they're trying to make. The is that the the original people that immigrated here came here to build   a infrastructure for the country to run to run with.  

Well, some of them. Now that the right. Some of them. And and that But now that the infrastructure   has been developed,   we need to put limitations.  

[00:43:36] Jesse Fries:

Well,   yeah. But I think that's essentially what they're trying to do. I I think that's what they're trying to say. Yeah. Yeah. I I I I don't agree with that. I I would say maybe, like, for the first half of our history,  

[00:43:49] Jamon Fries:

That's Yeah. Right? Yeah. But for the second half, it isn't. No. No. Absolutely not. No. It's I I think that probably holds true maybe up to, like, the eighteen fifties.  

[00:44:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's like beyond that, you know, it's yes, there were some that would settle   still. Yeah. But a lot of a lot of them just came to the cities, you know? Yeah. Yeah. The Irish in Boston, the Italians in New York, and things like that. You know? It's Yeah.  

[00:44:16] Jamon Fries:

It's Yeah. The majority the majority of the people that have come here have always gone to   where it was already populated. It it takes a very, very   different kind of person  

[00:44:28] Jesse Fries:

to be able to go out into the wilderness and colonize it. No. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. You know? And it's it's a whole different matter. Yeah. But yeah. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah. Most just stuck right around the cities and everything like that. So  

[00:44:40] Jamon Fries:

I I I understand the argument, but That's why the East Coast is so populous.  

[00:44:46] Jesse Fries:

No. It is. It is. It is. And then everybody saw gold and everything like that out west.   And that's why California is so populous. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And the perfect weather. Come on. You can't beat the perfect weather. So, you know Absolutely. Yes.   That is very true. Yeah. You don't have the cold   or or, generally, even the heat. It it's just like that. You know? Yeah. But then you have earthquakes and mudslides and fires and Yeah. Anything else?   There's gotta be some sort of pestilence. Right? Because, well, there's just   but  

[00:45:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean,   I   I I can't think of anything else.  

[00:45:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. That that that's it. I I was just making a joke there. But yeah. I think that's really about it. But   those things are big things as well. So, you know, but the the weather's perfect. So, you know Yes. So Absolutely. Yeah.  

[00:45:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And that's what really sucks.   Mhmm. I'm looking at moving.   I wanna move somewhere that's got a nice climate, somewhere where I don't have to worry about snow,   any of that stuff.   But everywhere that I can think of is run by the Liberals.  

[00:45:54] Jesse Fries:

Well,   you don't   I'm not saying you should move here because yeah. No. But you you know, it's   Texas, Florida, you know, but in the summer, holy balls that gets hot.   Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:46:07] Jamon Fries:

So you In in Florida, not only is it the you know, unless you're on the coast. If you're on the coast, it's not bad. But in Florida, the humidity on the in on inside on the inside is nasty.  

[00:46:20] Jesse Fries:

In Texas, it can get that way too. Like, around Houston and Corpus and everything like that. The humidity is rough, you know. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:46:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   No. I I was   the the one place I thought possibly   in Texas would be El Paso.   Okay. Should have a pretty nice dry climate. Not in I would think so. Yeah. It's on the desert. Yeah.   Yeah.   And then and then I looked at Prime there. And, yeah. No. Yeah.  

[00:46:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. There's no Mexico. You know? It's, Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.   Don't know what to tell you, man. Don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:47:02] Jamon Fries:

Keep searching. Keep searching. I I am doing that. Yes.  

[00:47:06] Jesse Fries:

That works. That works.   Okay. What else do we got here?   You got some cop news? Whatnot?   Oh, there's Sean Combs. You know? So, he was sentenced to four years. Oh, yeah.   During the sentencing,   his ex girlfriend,   she she unlike what the prosecution says,   she goes, I was never sex trafficked. I don't know what the prosecutors were thinking. They kept trying to say I was sex trafficked, that I was a prostitute, that I was this. She goes, whatever everything I did, I did consensually.   You know? And she goes, I've been pressured to feel like a victim, but I'm not a victim. You know? It's like, god bless her. You know? It's like Yeah. Stand up for yourself. Don't don't be a victim when somebody says you're a victim. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:47:56] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Doesn't matter who's telling you you're a victim. You're not a bit you're not always necessarily a victim.   Exactly. If you yourself feel like you're a victim, then you could be. But if somebody else tells you that you are Yep. That means that you probably aren't.  

[00:48:12] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it it's a personal it it's not I wouldn't even say necessarily a choice. It may be at some level. Yeah. But sometimes,   you you know, it's like you it's like with any sort of traumatic thing that you go through, you know. It's like whether or not   your it's   like a veteran. Is he a victim of the war? You know? Some people would say yes, and some people would say no. And the it'd be both veterans saying one way or the other. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. You can let your past define you. It's all about your frame of mind and how you view what has happened in the past. Exactly. You can let your past define you, or you can move on with life. You know? It's,   yeah.  



[00:48:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So in Seattle  

[00:48:54] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:48:55] Jamon Fries:

The police department has launched a new registry   trying to get   people with,   private cameras that Mhmm. Can see the public areas   to sign up to allow them   to investigate   without having to get warrants.  

[00:49:14] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep. They've,   because Ring used to let the police in.   Yeah. And then that had to change because, well, privacy.  

[00:49:25] Jamon Fries:

Right. So now their cops are trying to get around that again. Yep. Well, that that's not I mean, I I don't see it as getting around it. I do.   The reason that I don't see it as getting around it is because they're asking people to voluntarily   register to allow their cameras to put it to be seen.   Yeah. And it No. And and the thing the thing that I like about it though is that   according to everything that they've said,   is that the owner of the camera will determine   what they can see.   So they won't just have full and they wouldn't just have full unlimited access to the camera.   It would be   the the owner would find the footage that they that they want   and allow them to see only that small part portion of what's been filmed.  



[00:50:16] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But but that no. This would have to be live, wouldn't it? Otherwise, what's the point?   Because they can always because be because a person can always turn in the footage  

[00:50:26] Jamon Fries:

no matter what. Yes. No. No. But this this is   this is   a way to be able to quickly view the food footage rather than having to go to a court to get a court order for it. I get the court order. This would be people that this this will just be a list of people that they can call. No. I know. I know. And say,   did did your camera see anything with this? And then if it did, then, you know, they can they can come and take a look at that small little clip. But,   I know I'm heavily against it, but I do see where it could go wrong.  

[00:51:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. I I I'm just against it. But you know something, it's   I'm not sure.   So   have you seen the new AI footage that they've been able to create?   For what?   For just   they've been able to put anybody   into,   crime videos, and it's 100%   real looking.   Yeah. So, you you know, I I really think I really think   it is actually going to get to the point   of   back in the day when there was no footage because you couldn't believe anything that is being shown. If if you can't trust what's being seen, then you can't use it. Yeah. 100%.   You can't you can't trust it at all. Yeah.  



[00:51:45] Jamon Fries:

You know, anything can be doctored I can just imagine the very first the very first time it appears in part.   See, that's you on the video.   Can you prove that that isn't that there wasn't AI   that put that put me in there? Can you prove that? Yeah. Yeah. And Well, no.   Well, right. I'm sorry. But  

[00:52:06] Jesse Fries:

But a lot of people go to jail   with that until   everything catches up and going, oh, yeah. Yep. You know, it's   it's crazy. You know? It's like Yeah. You should almost just have,   like like, your own personal GPS location on you at all times that can never be shared so that when something happens and they go, you   where what's your alibi? It's like, there. There's my alibi. You know? And then if you did something, make sure you delete it.  

[00:52:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The another way would be to   make sure that you have, like, a body cam on you twenty four seven. Exactly.  

[00:52:47] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. And you did something to make sure you deleted it. Make sure you deleted  

[00:52:52] Jamon Fries:

it.   It was a malfunction of the camera, officer. Sir. That's why there's no recording in an hour. Exactly.  

[00:53:01] Jesse Fries:

Cops say it all the time. You know? I don't have the audio   just cut out. I don't know. You know?   Okay. Let's see here. What else do I got?   Oh,   a a judge in South Carolina,   her house was has burnt down.  

[00:53:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I saw that. Her family  

[00:53:27] Jesse Fries:

was in the house and is severely injured, apparently.   Yep. She was not there.  

[00:53:33] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. She was taking a walk on the beach or something like that. Right. Right. Right. So it's, nobody knows why it started.  

[00:53:40] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   You know, it so they're gonna investigate that. Some some in the media, of course, are already blaming mega for the house burning down. Of course. You know? But birds. Yeah.   No clue. No clue. It could be   anybody,   you know,   or nothing. It could just have been an accident. You never know.  

[00:53:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So yeah.  

[00:54:01] Jesse Fries:

Don't pass judgment. It's like, I I I'm so tired of that with the mainstream media. Just always   jumping and jumping and jumping and just attacking everybody, you know. It's like  

[00:54:12] Jamon Fries:

Well, it's like I I watched a,   watched a video   on,   Inside Edition.   Uh-huh.   I really, really dislike Inside Edition. They they play with stuff so much. Uh-huh.   You heard about those two teens in New Jersey that were that did comments   about   Charlie Kirk's murder.   Okay. And the guy that ran them over   made comments about how they shouldn't have made that post.   Okay.   And so, of course, instantly, everybody is linking this guy to a huge Charlie Kirk fan and all this other stuff, and they're trying to see see there's no difference between   your violence and our violence and all this other stuff. Mhmm.  

So when he made comments   about   the   about her saying stuff about Charlie Kirk   Right.   He said that when he called   Domino's   and ordered two pizzas delivered to her house   for cash on delivery.  

[00:55:23] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:55:26] Jamon Fries:

About five days later is when he killed her.   Now this wasn't the they they then said that he was they we've confirmed that he was a Charlie Kirk Kirk fan because he ordered the pizza for her, and Charlie Kirk had said something about ordering pizza or something.  

[00:55:43] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:55:45] Jamon Fries:

But   this wasn't the first time that he had done this delivery pizza prank on her. Uh-huh.   Like, two, three months ago, she he had made advances on her. She rebuffed him. Ever since then, he has been stalking her. Oh. Because he has,   he has he had a, restraining   order placed on him and all this other crap. And they're linking   him killing her   to Charlie Kirk.  

[00:56:13] Jesse Fries:

Not just a normal asshole that is Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay.  

[00:56:18] Jamon Fries:

Well, he did like Charlie Kirk. So apparently, you know, it would Yeah. I mean Yeah. Well, you know, we don't even know if he really liked Charlie Kirk.   We just know that he didn't like what she said about him.   Got it. Got it. Got it. So he could have just been simply saying, look, you know, the guy was just assassinated.   You don't say that shit. No matter what his no matter what his leanings are. Right.   Right.   You know, so so the it was just one little brief comment. There was absolutely nothing else that that I've seen   that links him to Kirk.  

Mhmm.   And yet there the the   the on x and in some of the media sources,   they've they've just been hammering on us. This is a Charlie Kirk fan that killed her. No. Yeah. Comments that she made about Kirk.  

[00:57:08] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. No. It's like it's like that judge. You know? It's like so her her house burned out. So if it was started by somebody that wasn't in the family   Yeah.   She's a judge.   Yeah. You you know, judges get attacked   anyways   beyond And they piss off a lot of people. They do because that's their job. You know? Yes. And so they always have to go through that whole thing of going who was anybody out to get you and anything like that. So to automatically just tie one to the other, it's like it it it could have been somebody else, you know, somebody that she sent down the river. You know? You never know. So it's, Absolutely. Yeah.   Yeah. Just to automatically jump to one or the other is just kinda stupid  

[00:57:50] Jamon Fries:

overall. Really is. It really is.   And, you know, so then,   I ran across another story.   Mhmm. There were two teens that were arrested   after they attacked police cruisers with fireworks in Boston.  

[00:58:06] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:58:07] Jamon Fries:

So, of course, you know, most people when reading this headline, they would think that it was ice related.  

[00:58:13] Jesse Fries:

Right.   But   it wasn't.   Uh-huh.  

[00:58:18] Jamon Fries:

And, you know, I so I the biggest reason that I brought that I'm looking at this is you look at the difference in reaction   by the politicians   and by the   police themselves.  

[00:58:34] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:58:35] Jamon Fries:

So this was a group of teenagers. A group of people had shut down a street with, like, a 100 vehicles. They basically were they were doing street racing and stuff like that. Oh, good.   And   the police came, and some of them started getting violent at the police. They started launching. They started shooting fireworks at the police and stuff like that. Right. One of the police vehicles   was, the get the flames got inside, and it it burnt the vehicle. Oh, good.   Now if this had been an ice thing   Mhmm. Nobody would have been arrested.  

[00:59:11] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:59:13] Jamon Fries:

But because it wasn't ice related, the two kids that were throwing the fireworks both got arrested.   Yeah.   Yeah.   The the differences   are just so glaring, the difference in treatment.  

[00:59:32] Jesse Fries:

It really is. It really   is.   Yeah. What what are you gonna do? You know? It's just yeah. There's nothing you can do. It's we know what it is, you know? And Yep. This this is why the media really isn't being listened to, generally. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big sense. Absolutely.   Because they're   the trust in media is lower than anything else in this country, really. So, you know, it's   they they need to do something about it. You know? I I would say just,   stick to the facts. Don't try to add any filler words or any charged Yeah. Language. You know? Like,   like like like, when they say,   Trump,   he he he claims   that this happened and everything like that. You know? It's like, no. No. No. Trump said this.  



[01:00:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's the  

[01:00:22] Jesse Fries:

when you add a word like claims, that means that   it's completely or they say unfounded. Everything Trump's has said this unfoundedly   or something like that. You know? And it's like,   because just because you don't know the reason for it, you're saying unfounded. You know? It's like everything Trump says it's unfounded as this. It's,   that. But then all their little sources that talk behind his back   that might not even be real because they don't actually Oh, yeah. Cite any sources.   Yep.   It's 100% fact. You know? It's   Yeah.  

So yeah.   It's funny. It is funny.   Speaking of the news and everything like that, apparently,   BBC News and CBS News   are joining forces for global news.   So probably as a way to cost,   to cut costs,   probably. Yeah.   Yeah. So that they can share and defray costs and everything like that. So, yeah, I don't know   if that's really gonna change anything. But, yeah, that made the news. They're they're they're in in the way they report and everything else like that. Yeah. Apparently, this is have a major impact.   Apparently, this will well, apparently, this will affect ABC News because ABC News was the other partner before. So   Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So   we will see. Disney probably won't be happy. But, Probably not. Yeah.  

Let's see. Let's get into some international news since I was BBC, you know, segue   in that way.   Let's see. This is Hamas, of course.   They're actually negotiating   in Egypt right now from what I can tell.   Okay.   And this is,   from   Trump. He   and also a whole bunch of,   Arab nations went to Hamas and said,   you gotta stop this.   This is just stupid. You just have to stop it. You know?   Yep. And so now the Trump put out a suggestion, basically, like,   every hostage and body gets take, given back to   Israel. Is Israel releases   way too many people   as they always do.  

They'll probably attack Israel again.   And then from there, just   a a few other things. But, basically, just   send people over, and then   from there, you can get the truce and everything like that. So yeah.   Yeah. Let's see if it happens, anything like that.   But along with that  

[01:02:58] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm. I don't I'm not so sure I like that whole plan simply because, you know, it just   basically sets it back to the origin.   Yeah. You have   Hamas and the people that want to   kill Israelites,   and you have Israel who   wants to stop Hamas. I mean, it's Right. Right. That's not gonna solve anything over there.  

[01:03:23] Jesse Fries:

Hopefully not. Delay in a year or two. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's true. Not hopefully not. I don't know why I said that. Yeah. Hopefully,   it   it it wouldn't be that way, but more than likely Hopefully, it'll work properly, and the war will be over forever, and we'll never have to hear about it again. Yeah. That's not gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah. It's, Hamas has to agree to a final solution.   And not the same final solution as Hitler's. Just saying. Right. Yeah. Yeah.   They they they really need to   be okay with not getting exactly everything they wanted. It's Yeah.   It's,  

[01:03:59] Jamon Fries:

what has to happen? What's this what what are these conditions that Hamas set?  

[01:04:04] Jesse Fries:

Oh, Hamas really doesn't have anything yet.   Let's see here.   Oh,   maybe so. Let me see.   I forgot that story. Let's see.   Now it's pulling up here.   As you go along, you know, you just create   stories and everything like that. Yep.   Let's  

[01:04:32] Jamon Fries:

see.  

[01:04:41] Jesse Fries:

Says they agree, but   it has to be negotiated.   So  

[01:04:47] Jamon Fries:

So in other words, they don't have conditions that that it's just another instance of the   newspaper   saying, yeah. But we wanna say that because it sounds good. They wanna modify some of the terms.   Yeah.   And that's standard negotiation, though. I mean, that's not really a condition.  

[01:05:08] Jesse Fries:

Right. Oh, they one of the conditions is that Hamas has to disarm and destroy its weapons.   So Hamas doesn't want that, of course.  

[01:05:17] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that one The the that's that's what I don't understand about some of these headlines though, because   this is   if you read this headline,   it says that Hamas is setting conditions.   Now that they're responding to conditions that Israel is set. Yeah. Yeah. It's  

[01:05:38] Jesse Fries:

it's   yeah.   Headlines. It's hard. You   you don't get anything real out of headlines, you know, except for a good news grab and everything like that. So Yep. Yep.  

[01:05:51] Jamon Fries:

But, yeah, it's just I have I have one one thing that's somewhat related to Hamas and Uh-huh. In Gaza.   Greta Thunberg.   Thunberg. Yep. Yep. Yep. Thunberg.   Yeah. So   after the after Israel stopped her   fleet of, like, 50 some ships Right.   They found something very interesting.   What?   There were zero   supplies   in any of them.   You're freaking kidding me. No. They had no supplies, and they were going to support they they were going to make sure that that   the the Gazans had supplies,   but they didn't have any supplies at all on the in the in that entire flotilla.  

[01:06:37] Jesse Fries:

So what was the plan?  

[01:06:39] Jamon Fries:

That Well, they got what they wanted out of it. They were in the headlines.  

[01:06:43] Jesse Fries:

No. I understand. But if they got through  

[01:06:47] Jamon Fries:

plan. They didn't they they knew that they wouldn't get through.   The plan was to get themselves   back into the headlines.   So pathetic.  

[01:06:56] Jesse Fries:

Completely. I know.   Go away, Thunberg.   You know, we don't need your kind. You know, it it's Yeah.   It's social justice for whatever, you know. It's just, oh,   this is your job. Just get a new job, you know. Yes. Yes.  

[01:07:14] Jamon Fries:

Actually, I'm actually gonna help. Go out and actually work for a living.  

[01:07:20] Jesse Fries:

Or actually enter politics.   Yeah.   You know? It's Yeah. Absolutely.   Something for Christ's sakes. Because if you're gonna go without anything in the boat,   you you you know, that's   the whole thing, it was yeah. Going to help the Gazans. Apparently not.  

[01:07:40] Jamon Fries:

So Yeah. No. They weren't. Not this time around. Yeah. First time The first time they went, they had supplies. They had, like, powder baby powder, powdered milk, and stuff like that. So they did have supplies the first time they went back in June or July. In in June, I think it was. Uh-huh. But this time around, they had nothing.   Wow.  

[01:08:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   That is crazy. According to Israel anyway. So, you know, I don't Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I I I understand. I understand. But   why would they put that story out there? I don't know. It's like Yeah. Exactly. No. I I first saw it when I saw,  

[01:08:18] Jamon Fries:

on Fox News, they were they were doing a report on it. Mhmm. And one of the Israeli,   soldiers was walking through the ship, and he's like, you know, we were expecting to see a whole bunch in here, but,   I'm on the largest ship of the, in the fleet right now, and   it's empty.  

[01:08:38] Jesse Fries:

Wow. Wow. That that is crazy. It's like so, basically, they just got a whole bunch of boats, but nobody was willing to sponsor them to put anything on the boats maybe? Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the best I can figure. Because it's like, oh, well, we could actually just send money to Israel to actually give the Gazans.   Yeah.   Unless if Hamas steals it, of course. You know? Right. So Yes.   Well, at least she's out of Israel now. They deported her. Yeah. So   But, yeah, I I saw one video of her, like, crying.   I've been kidnapped.  

Blah blah. It's a  

[01:09:13] Jamon Fries:

bitch. Other other women other women   in her in her, group   were accusing the Israeli soldiers of molesting them and all that other stuff.  

[01:09:25] Jesse Fries:

Okay. You you you know, I I've seen IDF chicks. I don't think the IDF needs to go anywhere else because   Yeah. Yeah. Tough looking women. I'm just saying. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[01:09:40] Jamon Fries:

But, you know, to me, when I when I hear that they were molested when they were being   arrested   Uh-huh. It means that they were fighting back.  

[01:09:49] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Exactly. If if you're squirming and everything like that, they're trying to get a hold of you, you know, I  

[01:09:55] Jamon Fries:

the the stuff that you don't want touched is gonna get touched, unfortunately.  

[01:09:59] Jesse Fries:

And then you have to be searched because that's just the way it goes. You know? So,   yeah, I know.   When when you're doing stupid stuff like this, a little bit of molestation is kinda it it's like when cops are arresting you. They technically molest you so that they can check your pockets and everything like that. You know? Yeah.   It's just the way it works. You know? Yep. So it's a   yeah. Yeah.   Wow. I just defended molestation there, Jim.  

[01:10:32] Jamon Fries:

But only if it's the police.   Well, not the police. Or the police. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Only if you're being arrested.  

[01:10:39] Jesse Fries:

Only if you're being detained in some way and they need to protect themselves or you and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. No. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.   Let's see here. French politics. Apparently, the prime minister because, you know, one re resigned or was kicked out. Right?   And then there was a new one, and he just resigned.   So   this one lasted twenty seven days. So that is the shortest   term as prime minister in France in all of history.   So he's a record breaker. Chairman. He's a record breaker. Nice. Nice. Right? He should be proud of that.   Yeah. Yeah. And so now Macron has to find somebody else.  

The reason for it was that, the right didn't like   the cabinet there he was picking. So Right. And   it's it's so even in their parliament that   it it can easily be destroyed. So  

[01:11:36] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:11:38] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   Let's see here.   What else do I got?   Oh, so,   apparently   so you know that Israeli   or not no. The,   Jewish synagogue attack   in The UK?  

[01:11:57] Jamon Fries:

Yes.  

[01:12:00] Jesse Fries:

So the guy that attacked   didn't have a gun.   But one of the people that died,   one of the Jewish members of the,   synagogue died from a gunshot   from the police.   Oh, god. So the police,   they shot two people apparently there, two,   two of the synagogue goers,   and one of them died.   So it   seems like,   we need to take the guns away from the police.   Most of the police don't have guns there, but we should take the guns away from everybody else over there too because,   apparently, they don't know the difference between a church goer and a guy with a suicide vest. So Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. That's interesting.  

Yeah. So so the police have a bigger head count at that in that attack than the terrorists.   Wow.   Right?   Yeah.   Messed up you.  

[01:13:01] Jamon Fries:

That's very messed up. Yeah.  

[01:13:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. What else do I got here? Where is it?   Let's see here.   Oh, so   the EU.   Well, actually, let me cover this one real quick. So do you know what Iran did? It's really amazing, actually,   what they did. So,   few months ago, they   arrested a teenager,   from Europe who was cycling   and crossed the border into Iran.   Right? Okay. And they arrested him for espionage.   Okay.   They acquitted him.   No way. Yes.   A country actually acquitted somebody that they arrested for espionage. Has this ever happened? Do you ever remember this happening ever? Any country?  

[01:13:53] Jamon Fries:

I remember them being released, but never acquitted.  

[01:13:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It he was acquitted.   Yeah.   Apparently, the prosecution can still,   the term just completely   out my brain, but they can appeal it. There you go. Okay. But yeah. He was acquitted.   Wow.   Yeah.   It's like there's no evidence of this dude. He he was a cyclist that crossed the border. Yeah. I see.   I I   yeah. Usually, either they have enough evidence to actually arrest well or they just   arrest and just say too bad, so sad sort of situation. This is how most guys deal with it, isn't it? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   So, yeah, I I found that very, very surprising.  



[01:14:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   And interesting.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:14:53] Jesse Fries:

And then, apparently,   in Europe right now, the European   Union or parliament,   they   I think they're trying to destroy every   industry   in Europe.   So   they they they they're passing new rules that were   that will require textile producers to cover the cost of collection, sorting, recycling   through the extended producer responsibility   framework.   The basically,   what this means is that they will be responsible   for recycling,   trash, everything   of   clothing.  

[01:15:35] Jamon Fries:

So if you manufacture so, essentially, what you're saying is that if you manufacture   something,   you have to pay for everything that's gonna happen to it up including   disposal of it after it gets torn into riots.  

[01:15:49] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. They say fast fashion business models will generate which generate huge amounts of cheap throwaway clothing, flood landfills,   drive microplastic pollution, basically.   Yeah. So   they're gonna hold these clothing brands   accountable   for   regular trash   and everything like that.  

[01:16:11] Jamon Fries:

So they're gonna they're gonna hold clothing companies   responsible   for the,   what's the best way to say it, for the irresponsible   purchase choices   of certain individuals   that just have to buy a new outfit for every other day.  

[01:16:30] Jesse Fries:

Or just the poor of Europe, which so many of them are poor right now because their economy sucks. Yep. And they have to buy cheap clothing.   Yeah.   And now the fashion industry is gonna have to charge more for that clothing.  

[01:16:47] Jamon Fries:

It's because they have to pay for throwing it away too. Or they will just leave the freaking  

[01:16:51] Jesse Fries:

continent.   Or Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me not even call it continent. The subcontinent   Yeah. Of Europe.   You you know, it's   they seriously want to destroy all industry. I swear to God, they really do. It's like That's just normal trash. Socialism does. I know. But that's just normal trash.   I know. You know, it's like I know.   You you you pay for trash in your taxes Yeah. Or you pay straight out   in a monthly bill or quarterly bill. This is what you do.   So Yeah. Every month I pay a trash I paid for my trash being picked up. Yes. Everybody does. This is how it works. Whether or not it's taxes or this or that, it all get paid   Yeah. By you. And so now they want these cloth   clothing companies   to   cover the cost. Your trash bill. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Nice. Exactly.  

It's it's like they don't want anything nice over there. I swear to God, they really don't. Yeah.   I I it just boggles the mind. It really does. It's like,   you you you know, they they It it's a little bit crazy. Germany gets rid of nukes because of Fukushima,   and then they don't have anything to replace it, and then they become reliant on Russian oil. And then they complain about Russian oil.   And it's like,   do do you people   do you think   can you think things through, like, end to from point a to point b? You know, don't don't divert. Can you actually just think Yeah.   Of one solid line, you know. It it just doesn't make sense to me.  



[01:18:31] Jamon Fries:

No. It doesn't.   No. And and that's one of the problems with   being reactionary and stuff like that is that   the only thought in your mind is I need to fix this problem right now. You don't think at all about what other potential problems   those fixes   can   put into place?  

[01:18:56] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[01:18:58] Jamon Fries:

And by doing that, it often leads to destruction.  

[01:19:02] Jesse Fries:

No. Completely. Completely. Yeah. It it's the economy is bad enough. Why are you trying to force even   Yeah. It just doesn't make sense to me.   No. No. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't.   So out of Australia   so   apparently, some sixty year old guy just started shooting up a street,   shooting 50 bullets.   Just in Australia. I thought all guns were illegal.   But apparently, he shot off 50 rounds. He hit about 16 people, one through the neck.   Nobody died.   Oh, thank god. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So   apparently, it happens on Australia too even without any  

[01:19:47] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's amazing how this stuff happens in countries without with gun laws.   It happens everywhere whether with gun laws or without, you know, it's just with guns. Yeah. Somebody that somebody that's gonna kill people is gonna kill people regardless. They're gonna find illegal ways to get a firearms. They're going to find legal weapons that you can use.   It it's gonna happen. I mean Yeah. The the biggest the biggest weapon out there is a vehicle.   You know, all all you have to do if you wanna kill someone is kill people is drive your vehicle into the crowd like so many people have been doing.   I've done, you know, in the last couple of years and whatnot. Yep. Up in Canada, whatnot. Even right here. You don't need a gun to kill a lot of people. It's it's not something inherent to guns in in and of itself. No. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, this guy is apparently,  

[01:20:35] Jesse Fries:

he's just a six year old guy, kids, whatnot,   no mental issues,   never in trouble with the police, not part of any sort of sect as they can tell,   and whether religious or political. And he just started shooting. It's a he just started taking potshots around the neighborhood. That's all he did. Just went crazy.   Just went something. Yeah. Nobody even knows if he's even crazy.   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. So  

[01:21:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. He's still alive. So we'll see. Maybe we'll figure it out. It it it's good that nobody died from it. That that No. Completely.   Yep. Yeah. That that's a huge thing right there. So Yep. Yep.  

[01:21:16] Jesse Fries:

At least not up for murder charges. No. No kidding. Yeah. Yeah. There there is that.   He's still in he's   so out of luck, though. He should out of luck. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At least not murder. At least he didn't kill anybody.   Yep. But, yeah, we also don't kill anybody here at the Mindless Meandering podcast.  

[01:21:35] Jamon Fries:

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[01:21:38] Jesse Fries:

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It's sometimes me too. It's sometimes me too. Just mostly Jamin.  

[01:22:33] Jamon Fries:

I I have been delayed, what, three times total. You've been delayed once. So, yes, it is mostly me. See? I told you. That's all I'm saying.  

[01:22:43] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Apparently, the Supreme Court rejected   Lane Maxwell's,   appeal. So   there there's they're not even gonna hear it. They just said, no. We're not gonna hear that. So she's gonna have to be stuck in jail. Good for her.  

[01:22:58] Jamon Fries:

So That that's good. Yep. Yep. At the same supreme at the same time, the Supreme Court did also decide to   hear a case   about Hawaii.   Okay. In Hawaii, they passed a law regulating where guns can be carried.   Mhmm.   What this law says is that,   now it it's not   about public areas. Public areas, you can still carry a gun unless it's like a place that is a alcohol is present or stuff like that as in most cases. But if this is for private property.  

[01:23:35] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:23:36] Jamon Fries:

Now, in order to legally carry a firearm onto private property,   the private property has to post signs saying guns are allowed here.   Instead of the way it normally is where a private owner can prohibit guns there. Right. Right. Right.   So Hawaii passed the law saying that that the you have to have permission from the owner either through a sign or verbal permission   from them to carry a firearm onto their property.  

[01:24:07] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:24:08] Jamon Fries:

And so now the Supreme Court is is   they they it was brought to the Supreme Court. So now they're they're gonna have to decide whether   whether it's   okay to do it in a way that would limit   because people don't wanna put those signs up or Right. In a way that it's only limited to people who wanna put signs up. No. I understand. Yeah. It,  

[01:24:32] Jesse Fries:

it makes sense. It's a good   it's I I think it's   a I I don't know how it'll end up, but I think it's Right. Yeah. No. It it's it's definitely a worthwhile argument, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's   it's like a sign   against or the sign that you can. You know? It's like Yeah.   Yeah.   I bet the Supreme Court will   side with striking it down. Personally, that's what I think. Probably.   But, I wonder what the arguments are. I wonder what the arguments are.  

[01:25:04] Jamon Fries:

That that's one where I wouldn't mind being in the courthouse to see what to hear what the arguments were. Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. No kidding.  

[01:25:12] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. And then,   somebody did a study. And as we all know,   studies,   especially this one,   is   apt for   being incorrect.   A lot of times studies are incorrect,   and, there was a study to prove that, most studies are incorrect, which in and of itself may actually disprove itself.   Oh, the twisted minds of scientists. Right? Exactly. Exactly. But this study, he he did some,   studies of DNA for people that, gave DNA.   And he says he they have found evidence of alien DNA in humans.   Really?   Yeah. Yeah.   They said in an examination of 581   complete families from 1,000   g, from the 1,000 genomes project,   they found large sequences of DNA in 11 families that appeared to match neither parent.  

So they extrapolate   this to mean   aliens.   Right?   I'm saying   the wife cheated.  

[01:26:31] Jamon Fries:

Well, but but if it's neither parent, then it wouldn't be the wife cheating.  

[01:26:39] Jesse Fries:

Who's to say that's the parent?  

[01:26:43] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. That that that that's   I would mean I would lean more towards adoption   or   child being replaced at the hospital or something like that. I I wouldn't go to wife cheating with that. But   if if both sets don't match up, then it wouldn't be the moms either.  

[01:27:02] Jesse Fries:

There's that. I I didn't read it that way. Okay. Yeah. No.   You're right on that one. But   I I don't think that matters. You know? It's and and it's in 11 families out of 581.   So it's  

[01:27:18] Jamon Fries:

why that has I I would be willing to bet that it was   children that were accidentally or intentionally   swapped at birth.  

[01:27:26] Jesse Fries:

That could be that actually is that that would actually be I know. Me with reason.   That's no fun.  

[01:27:33] Jamon Fries:

Destroyed your entire thought process. You wanted to blame it on the cheating spouse, but, no,   I had to step in. Damn it.  

[01:27:46] Jesse Fries:

But, no, the the study, it it it it like, it goes into, like, oh, we we we we we've studied people that have say they've been abducted   and everything like that, and some of their DNA has changed is different and some of it isn't. And some people's isn't. Is that good?   And then it go and and for some reason, this made the news. This was in the Daily Mail. Right?   And and and even in the whole story, it goes, well, this isn't the peer reviewed study. I'm like, oh, why are you even doing it?  

[01:28:15] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's not even a peer reviewed study. What the hell? Yeah. I know, man.  

[01:28:20] Jesse Fries:

So so it's like  

[01:28:22] Jamon Fries:

so this is a bunch of cranks is what you're telling. Yeah. So some crackpot some crackpot out there said, you know,   we could get a whole bunch of people to think that aliens are really here. Exactly. And and it didn't even say that this DNA wasn't human.  

[01:28:38] Jesse Fries:

They just said wasn't of neither of the   parents. That's all it said. You know? It's like Oh my god. Yeah.   But they're saying, oh, maybe aliens were using CRISPR,   you know, where they could splice DNA and everything like that. It's like,   okay, dude. Okay. You know? That's hilarious.  

[01:28:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:29:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Let let let's go to your last story. The my my other one is just the EV, but I realized   it's a paid for story.   Oh, okay. Yeah. It was like I was reading this one story from this, it was on Apple News, but at the end of one story, it said, oh, you could it was about EVs.   It's like, oh, you could check to see, where you can stop to charge up your car or switch out batteries at this website. And then this other story was about EVs, and then it basically said the same thing again. I'm not going, oh, that's paid for. Okay. Never mind. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Big time. Yep. Yep. So I I I ran across something in one of the videos that I was watching recently for where, where Hegseth was being interviewed. Uh-huh.  

[01:29:43] Jamon Fries:

And   I had no idea this existed, but it's   awesome.   The the on x, there is a   there is a a,   a group on x   that is called the Pentagon Pizza Report.  

[01:30:01] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:30:04] Jamon Fries:

What they do is they   every day,   they take   the   number of sales at all the pizza joints around around the Pentagon.   And they they've they've come to think   that if there's   an excessive number of sales that day, that means that something might be going on and we might be going to war. Yeah. It's not bad theory.  

[01:30:32] Jesse Fries:

No. It's not.  

[01:30:35] Jamon Fries:

When when, when Higgseth was asked about it, he's like, you know,   I've heard about that site. And,   you know, because the guy was like, well, you know, did you ever think about maybe, you know, just instead of ordering pizza on those nights, just go into the cafeteria?   Uh-huh. And I said, it's like, well, you know, people love their pizza. But what I've thought about doing to make it so that   it doesn't really show anything is I've thought about just randomly on some days going in and ordering a whole shitload of pizzas from from these places.  

[01:31:08] Jesse Fries:

No. See, that would make sense. That would make sense. It would. Yeah. Reception. Yeah.   You know?   And, you know, they might actually do that. I'm just saying. They might. They wouldn't shock me. Yeah.  

[01:31:20] Jamon Fries:

That's funny. You know, people are brilliant. You know, they really are brilliant. They come up with Yeah. The Pentagon pizza report. That's just brilliant. Yep. It really is. They they also they also look at the bars in the area. This and when when the when there's a lower number of people going to the bars Uh-huh. They assume that the government's up to something as well. No. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Just just who would have thought of doing something like that? You know? I know. That's that's awesome.  

[01:31:48] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They're they're probably in the CIA. Those are the people that like that sort of thing. You know? The the analysts, you know, they they they there's a lot of analysts in the DC. So, yeah, it's, that   is pretty cool.   And with that, I'd like to thank you guys for joining us for episode 68 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you all on Thursday.