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- Jamon Fries
Welcome to the inaugural episode of 'Mindless Meanderings' with your hosts, Jesse and Jamon Fries. In this episode, we introduce ourselves and set the stage for what you can expect from our podcast. We dive into a range of topics, starting with a discussion on parenting challenges and the joys of sibling banter. We then explore the intersection of technology and politics, focusing on Mark Zuckerberg's recent letter to Congress and the implications of government censorship on social media. We also touch on the arrest of Pavel Durov, the creator of Telegram, and the broader issues of free speech and government control.We shift gears to discuss Elon Musk's rumored 'UFO fighter jet' and the feasibility of such advanced technology. We also delve into the complexities of space travel, including the challenges posed by incompatible spacesuits from SpaceX and Boeing. Our conversation takes a personal turn as we discuss weight loss strategies, the keto diet, and the controversial drug Ozempic.
We then tackle the topic of social media's impact on society, particularly its role in fueling protests and riots. We debate the merits of free speech and the dangers of government overreach in regulating online content. Finally, we share a humorous story about a group of individuals in Hawaii exercising their right to openly carry weapons, including swords and halberds, as a form of protest.
Join us for a meandering journey through a variety of topics, filled with humor, insights, and a touch of sibling rivalry. If you find value in our podcast, please consider donating through our website or your podcast app. Your support helps us continue to bring you these mindless meanderings.
[00:00:17]
Jesse Fries:
Hello, everybody. My name is Jesse Fries. I am the host of, the meandering, or the mindless meanderies, with my cohost, Jamin Fries, my brother over here. And, of course, I screwed it up.
[00:00:29] Jamon Fries:
How are you doing today, Jay? But, you know, that's what happens. Yes. Yes. I'm actually doing pretty good. Doing pretty good. Good. Good. Good. Yourself?
[00:00:38] Jesse Fries:
Oh, not too bad. Not too bad. Kids were kind of annoying this morning, but, you know, that's part of the process. I hope they get that way. That's what kids do, isn't it? Yeah. I I think so. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. So welcome everybody to the first episode of our podcast. We're gonna try a few things here, see what is good, what sucks, and everything like
[00:01:01] Jamon Fries:
that. And hopefully, people will like this. That hopefully. I I you know, that would at least hope that, you know, at least some people might live like to listen to us. Exactly.
[00:01:08] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. So for everybody out there, basically, we're just gonna talk about whatever we feel like talking about. We're 2 brothers of the same mother and possibly the same father. At least that's what they tell us. Still they say. Yeah. So they say. So they say. But, we we we ramble a lot, when we talk, so we figured, might as well do a podcast and see how that goes.
[00:01:30] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well Should be an exciting adventure.
[00:01:34] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. So, Jaeme, what topics do you got for us today that we could cover? Well, there's a couple of things that I'm pretty interested in,
[00:01:45] Jamon Fries:
technology, of course, as you well know, and politics. That's another big thing for me. And there there, ran across something that I found very interesting lately that actually combines the 2 of them. Oh, okay. And that is a letter that Mike Zuckerberg wrote to congress explaining that Biden that the Biden administration was try was trying to force them to censor anyone that did not that basically anyone that did not agree with what the prevailing thought was on on COVID.
[00:02:22] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. So what basically everybody thought?
[00:02:25] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, what what everyone knew to be true, but it which wasn't what the government was telling us was true. Right. So, I mean, they they even went so far as to to request them to to censor any comedy, any anything that that was done for for laughs instead of, you know, trying to be serious, such as like Babylon Bee or other other places like that. Uh-huh. It was very amusing. And I find it very interesting that he sent that letter out now apologizing, basically apologizing for having censored everybody.
[00:03:04] Jesse Fries:
That is weird. That is really weird. Any idea why he did it?
[00:03:09] Jamon Fries:
I actually have a pretty pretty good idea as to why it may have happened. Uh-huh. Because he he then start he then went into how he and Facebook were were supposed to, and from now on would would remain completely neutral, not showing any stance towards anything or anything like that. Uh-huh. But to me, it sounds more like what he's doing is saying, hey, Trump. If you get into office, please don't go after me for censoring the public.
[00:03:41] Jesse Fries:
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. May may maybe he's also Go ahead. Oh, maybe he's also, jealous of Elon Musk. You know? He's, he's causing all the troubles. Be too. Yeah.
[00:03:55] Jamon Fries:
That that very well could be true too. Yeah. Because at the at the same time, there's another story that that I read that is kind of complete polar opposite. Uh-huh. Have you heard of Pavel Durov, the Yes. Yep. Person that made Telegram? Yep. Yep. Yep. He was arrested in France.
[00:04:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I saw that. I saw that. I never knew who he was before this.
[00:04:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, he he he would there this is his second time to be, to be in full to to for the government to try to force him to do something. He was the original he was the original creator of VK over in Russia, which was the, equivalent of Russia's Facebook.
[00:04:40] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:04:42] Jamon Fries:
And the Russian government eventually came in and eventually came in and slowly took that over because he wasn't providing them the detailed information about the people that were using his his his, platform that disagreed with the government. Okay. Okay. So this is his second time now where the where a government is coming in and telling him, you need to do this, but they arrested him in France. They claim that it's because he was he didn't remove content that was, supporting in some way child pornography.
[00:05:23] Jesse Fries:
Well, and terrorism and many other things from what I understand too. Yeah. The child pornography was the main thing that they arrested him for because
[00:05:31] Jamon Fries:
I mean, you know, it's kind of funny that what the what the other what his, what Telegram's put out was that he has always complied with with all of the EU laws. Uh-huh. Anyone that should be that shouldn't anything that shouldn't be up there that's illegal to be posted is is removed fairly quickly. And he always travels all over the EU without any problem. But this time, as soon as he landed in France, boom, he was put into jail. Well, that's weird because
[00:06:00] Jesse Fries:
isn't he now, like, a French citizen? I thought he got at least residency or something like that in France. I
[00:06:07] Jamon Fries:
don't know. I haven't heard about that. I know that he currently lives, and Telegram is based out of, Dubai, if I remember correctly.
[00:06:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's kinda weird. The Middle East actually seems to be more free speech oriented than the west in the west in the west in the west in the Middle East. No. I know. I know. But it's kinda funny how that's been working out. Yeah. It's, It it really is. Yeah.
[00:06:32] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. So that that that, you know, that that I found that very interesting simply because, you know, it combines the tech, the the whole social media, and everything like that, which I've never really gotten into. And Right. Right. The and politics, which I've always gotten into.
[00:06:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No. The the the Musk thing really or or the Zuckerberg thing. That is to me, it's he's always been a lap dog for the government. So it's actually quite surprising. I I I really wonder what his thinking is for him to actually do the shift over to, being more free speech oriented. Because seriously, what's wrong with the jokes? You know, if you can't do a joke Yeah. Yeah. No. You know
[00:07:22] Jamon Fries:
as far as I I think there's possibly 2 things that go into that, Doug, that could possibly go into that. One is that, you know, he's concerned about any political fallout if Trump were to get into office. Right. The second possibility is maybe their subscriptions are going down and people are leaving Facebook because of all of this. Well, it's so he's I mean, he's done this many different times throughout throughout the existence of Facebook. You know? Right. He it gets shown that he shows data. He goes out and apologizes. It gets shown. He sells data. He goes out and apologizes.
He's he's always apologizing, and people, for some reason, are thinking that he's gonna actually change the way he does things. He never has.
[00:08:08] Jesse Fries:
That's true. That's true.
[00:08:10] Jamon Fries:
But so
[00:08:12] Jesse Fries:
yeah. I I find it so weird. Maybe maybe it's follows. Right. Maybe it's because just like Instagram and everything like that or Facebook has really been it if you ask the young kids, it's crap. Nobody uses Facebook. The only reason anybody that's young has a Facebook account, generally, from what I understand, is just because the parents have it. And that's the only reason why they otherwise, they're doing, Instagram or they're doing TikTok or they're doing Snapchat or, any of those things. I use some of those, like TikTok. I like TikTok. And Instagram isn't too bad. That's a Facebook product as well. But Yeah. You can get sucked into those. Any of those on my phone or on my computer. Okay. Probably smart because you could you could really get sucked into those, like, hardcore sucked in. Like like, 2 hours have gone by, and you're going, well, what did I do? Since you were just gonna watch TV anyways, it's not really a big deal. You know? So Exactly. I mean, for me, it's, I'm reading a book 2 hours go away. What go by? What the heck did I do? You know? I mean,
[00:09:19] Jamon Fries:
I have not achieved anything today. So it doesn't really matter what I'm looking at, but I'm always looking at something.
[00:09:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That I that's pretty much me too. I do have to I do other things around the house too, of course, but, yeah. Oh, yeah. So so so speaking of our first podcast here, you know, as brothers. Right? So with that, apparently, I I just it was, like, announced today or yesterday. Apparently, the Kelsey brothers have decided to copy us.
[00:09:51] Jamon Fries:
I heard that. Yes. Yeah. Not all not only have they decided to copy us, but somebody actually paid them a whole bunch of money. Yeah. Like, a $100,000,000.
[00:10:00] Jesse Fries:
Their stuff. Yeah. Why why is that happening to us already? Come on now. Oh, I know why. I'm not me or you? Well, I'm married, so I couldn't date her. But you you're not dating Taylor Swift. So, obviously, that has to be why. So it's, That's true. Yeah. Obviously. Damn it, Jamen. Come on. Date Taylor Swift. I'm sorry, man. I'm slacking here.
[00:10:28] Jamon Fries:
But, they shouldn't have copied us. That's all I'm saying. I I agree completely. You know, I I can't have much hate for Kelsey, though, considering, you know, I'm in Kansas, so I'm a huge Kansas City fan. You know? There is that. There is that. For him.
[00:10:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I just thought that was funny. The the timing of that was kinda funny. So Oh, yeah. I know. That's absolutely hilarious. Yep. Let's see here. You got anything else there?
[00:10:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, the talking about we were talking about Elon Musk earlier, and I saw some videos, and it got me really, really pumped up and excited because I thought it was very awesome. But then I started doing more searches, and I have not been able to find another single source other than, like, 4 YouTube videos that are all basically just the same exact thing talking about this. Okay. So what is it? I I don't know if it's true or not. I'm kind of leaning towards that it might not be, but you never know for sure. Right. So supposedly, a Elon Musk unveiled a what they call a UFO fighter jet.
Okay. This is a, fighter jet that supposedly goes 4,600 miles per hour. Uh-huh. And can fly at heights up to a 105,000 feet.
[00:12:00] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:12:02] Jamon Fries:
I think it's feet anyways, which is, like, most of our standard fighters right now can only hit, like, 60 to 70,000. Right. Right. So the fact that this one goes so so the reason for it is because supposedly, they are using a a rocket launch, you know, a space faring a a space shuttle rocket launch booster as the engine.
[00:12:29] Jesse Fries:
Interesting.
[00:12:31] Jamon Fries:
Which means that it doesn't need to draw, you know, as much oxygen so it can get into those higher elevations where the where there's less oxygen in the air. Right. Right. And if that was true, it would be amazing.
[00:12:46] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:12:48] Jamon Fries:
I mean, it you know, it it kind of goes back kinda takes me back to the, what was it, the u two? Uh-huh. I think it was the one that, that was the old high speed reconnaissance that we used to fly over Russia regularly. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This one, it it's you know, goes about 2,000 miles per hour faster than the u two did Okay. Which considering how much difficulty they had with just the 2,000 with the u 2. And unless they've significantly, monstrously in in, improved the technology in the hull Right. I don't know if it's actually possible because the the u two at 2,000 would start overheating. And I mean, it would it would get to the point where the plane was almost melting.
[00:13:39] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. With the atmosphere. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:13:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So unless there have been massive improvements in in the, in the metallurgy for to for to shape to make the body of the aircraft, I don't know if that kind of speed would actually be realistic or not.
[00:13:58] Jesse Fries:
Maybe if you get high up if you get high enough up in that atmosphere, it could or outside the atmosphere, of course. But Outside the atmosphere. Yeah. But beyond that, yeah. But I I as you've been talking here, I decided to Google it too. I checked. Well, I don't use Google, but yeah. I I I searched. I use Bing generally. But anyways, it's I all I found were YouTube videos. There there was nothing in print media on this at all. So Yeah. Exactly.
[00:14:29] Jamon Fries:
And they they say they're there's they say they're calling it the X1, which Yeah. Yeah. If you if you see if you pull up the X1, that was actually one of the jets that Chuck Yeager flew back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. He was a test pilot. That was Right. So, I mean, I I think that it's all just a load of crap. I don't think it's actually true. But That's what I would say. Wouldn't it be awesome if it was?
[00:14:54] Jesse Fries:
It would be awesome. It would be awesome. But, yeah, I think it's full of crap. It's, just some YouTubers having fun with you. Yeah. Yeah. One of the reasons one of the reasons that I actually think that is because of something that Elon Musk said himself.
[00:15:08] Jamon Fries:
Uh-huh. When he was talking to when he was talking to someone higher up in the air force, it was, there was a public discussion between them. And he said that the day of the manned of the manned piloted man piloted aircraft is basically at an end. So why would he put so much money into making one
[00:15:33] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. If he thinks that it's no longer gonna be around. This is coming from a man that can't even get a car to drive right for god's sakes. Oh, I I know this. I know this.
[00:15:45] Jamon Fries:
But, you know, the and, you know, I've I've I've heard I saw that argument in in a few other sources too, you know, that that he can't even do auto the autopilot. So what do you think? Why why do you think you could, have a plane fly itself? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's like you could do a drone, of course, but Well, yeah. And and see, here's the thing though, is that if you if you just to make it so that a jet so you can do higher g's on a jet Uh-huh. And to eliminate the potential for human life loss if you if you lose a jet, You could very easily build a flight sim simulator cockpit with 360 all the way around so that the pilot would still have to turn and look behind him like he does now.
Mhmm. But it it would be completely wireless. He wouldn't actually be in the plane. Much like drones are controlled now. It's it's a person with a joystick. It's not done it's not done autonomously. Well, right. Right. Why why why would you have to jump to autonomous for a for an unmanned fighter jet when you could just put them into a into a cockpit on the ground
[00:16:58] Jesse Fries:
and then deploy the plane up there? Yep. Yep. Then you wouldn't have to worry about g forces or anything like that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. As long as you have the good as long as you have a good data connection. Yeah. Yeah. Not not like your Internet.
[00:17:11] Jamon Fries:
So it's, Right. Yeah. Yeah. No. We we definitely need better than 29
[00:17:16] Jesse Fries:
29 megabyte download. Download. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Better than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And probably better ping rates and everything like that too. So yeah.
[00:17:24] Jamon Fries:
Well, considering that my Internet believes that I'm in Denver, Colorado. Well, there you go. There you go. My my ping is pretty high. My ping is up in the forties to fifties.
[00:17:37] Jesse Fries:
Woah. That's low. That that's crap, dude.
[00:17:44] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Dude. Whenever I do whenever I'm doing something whenever I've got something online, like a Discord or something like that, if I if I turned it on so that I can listen to what I'm to what I'm saying, back before I before I got the Internet that I have right now, it was pretty much timed pretty well with my voice. When I said it, it was pretty much there. Okay. Now I say it, and then it's there.
[00:18:14] Jesse Fries:
So what you're telling me is that this whole podcast, you are in the past. That is what you're telling me. Yes. I am absolutely telling you that. Yes. Okay. Okay. That works. That works. That works.
[00:18:26] Jamon Fries:
Not very much. You know, just a second maybe at the most. But Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm in the past right now. That's funny.
[00:18:36] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Oh, along with Musk and everything like that,
[00:18:40] Jamon Fries:
you know, the SpaceX and Boeing spacesuits don't match up. So that should be interesting. Yeah. I I have always I've always been wondering why they did that. I mean, I I know that part of the reason that Musk had to change the spacesuits is because his vessel is smaller and the seats are smaller.
[00:18:58] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. But
[00:18:59] Jamon Fries:
you you'd think that the government that NASA would at least put out some kind of uniform
[00:19:05] Jesse Fries:
spec that everyone has to adhere to. Yeah. Exactly. It's like So all space suits are basically the same. The size and the placement of the connection should basically be uniform, I don't think. But now these but now somehow we have to get new space suits up to these stuck astronauts because Boeing can't get anything right with their space stuff.
[00:19:26] Jamon Fries:
Well, I don't know I don't know if they're actually going to, send them new space suits. I did hear, that they were go that SpaceX was going to have to tear some of the stuff out of their cockpit Uh-huh. To make it and make the seats a little bit larger so they could get into them. So I don't think they're sending space suits up. I think they're they're adjusting the seats so that they'll fit.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
That's different. That's their no. I I I I don't know the logistics of space flight. So maybe it's easier to change out seats.
[00:20:01] Jamon Fries:
You know that?
[00:20:03] Jesse Fries:
I should just set up a new suit. I don't know.
[00:20:05] Jamon Fries:
One of the things with the suits is that unless they had art unless those specific astronauts had already been fitted into a SpaceX suit Uh-huh. Those suits are basically form fitting. Well, no. I understand. It's it's not a one size fits all. So I I you know, they're I don't know exactly how much free free play there is in different sizes and stuff like that, but, you know, they may have just said, you know, it's not worth seeing it. We don't wanna send suits up there just to find out that they can't fit into them. So let's let's redo the shuttle so that it can fit that what they're currently wearing. That way we can make sure we get them home. So basically what you're saying is that space flight isn't for just every man. You actually need a tailor to actually tailor this stuff. You can't just go and buy, the the off the shelf space suit just won't work for you. That's what you're telling. Unfortunately, that is true. Yes. You know, once once we get better, better technology as far as cloth and stuff where it can shrink down to form fit to our body from a larger size,
[00:21:12] Jesse Fries:
you know, then we won't have to worry about stuff like that, then anybody can go. But until we get that point, unfortunately, yes, you do need a personal tailor. If they're gonna if they're gonna want actual, like, commerce in space, they're gonna have to just come up with different sizes of suits that work, that don't necessarily conform to exact fit, but you know, that that'll just work. They're gonna have to, especially like in an emergency or something like that, you need extra suits that you could just jump into, you know, things like that. You're gonna need this sort of thing if you really wanna expand space flight.
[00:21:49] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. They put the and, you know, I completely understand why they don't do that right now though because Well, right now, the s the s the s not even not even just because there's not that many people, but because the astronauts going up there, if they had a, uni if they had a space suit that was a little bit loose, it could easily get caught on stuff that they that because it would, like, bunch out in places possibly if they were too short for it. And so it could possibly get caught up on stuff. So when they go out for a spacewalk to fix something on the ISS, they would have to be so cautious just to not snag their suit on something.
Whereas right now, because it's all form fit, there's a much much smaller chance of something like that happening.
[00:22:34] Jesse Fries:
Why do you have to be reasonable, Jayman? Come on.
[00:22:36] Jamon Fries:
Well, because I always try to be reasonable at least a little bit. I mean,
[00:22:45] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Yeah. You got anything else there?
[00:22:57] Jamon Fries:
Not really. I've I've been looking at all sorts of stuff and trying to come up with stuff, and Uh-huh. You know, I really don't oh, no. I I take that back. I take that back. It's right in front of me. I had it right on the screen, and I didn't even see it. What? Well, you know, you know, I'm a very large person. Right. Right. Right. I weigh in at about £540. So, you know, to me, there a lot of stuff about diet and things like that are are very concern concern me quite a bit. Right. And so I was watching in the interview. I for the life of me, I cannot remember the name of the man, but, he was interviewed by, Tucker Carlson.
Mhmm. And he they were talking about Ozempic specifically.
[00:23:50] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:23:53] Jamon Fries:
And I learned something very interesting about Ozempic. I've always known that it caused problems, but I had no idea why. Uh-huh. So, you know, Ozempic, there there are some people that have reported that Ozempic, that food doesn't get digested and that just sits in their stomach or in their digestive tract. It just Right. It just doesn't get processed properly. Uh-huh. And I could never figure out what a drug would have to do to cause that to happen, but I never know. Uh-huh. What does this guy say? What Ozempic does is it paralyzes the stomach.
[00:24:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:24:28] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, obviously, if you paralyze the stomach, the muscles aren't gonna be able to to move the food along. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There's So Papias said it'll get stuck. Yep. Yep. Yep. No. Yeah. There's a lot of complications with that sort of thing. It's,
[00:24:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's it's like going back to, like, the Fen Phen and everything like that back in the, what, the nineties, early 2000. Yeah. And then, you know, people started dying and everything like that. Yeah. I I'm all about, like, not taking drugs. You you know, I I I can lose a few pounds and the way I usually do it is just, cut my calories and, hope hope that works. You know? Usually, it does, and then I start eating again once I feel good enough, and then I gain it all back. And then, you know, the good old up and down. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The good old the good old weight yo yo. I'm pretty familiar with that one. Exactly.
[00:25:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. What I do what I've been doing recently is I've gotten onto the keto diet for the most I don't stick to it religiously like most people say you should. Right. And I have lost I have lost some weight. When I started it, I was up in the 5 70, 5 80 range. Okay. And I'm now down the lowest I've been recently here is down to 5:30. So Nice. Nice. There has there has been some good improvement on that. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. The what I found for myself, and, I mean, this is only for myself. I have I can't suggest that other people do this for the same reasons because You are not an expert or medical, Medical diet. Just what I myself have found Uh-huh. Is that by cutting out I've completely cut out grains. I don't cut out carbohydrates completely.
I still eat fruits and vegetables and stuff like that, but I have completely tried to cut out grains. Okay. And what I've found is that I tend to get bloated a lot less because I used to it used to be where if I pushed in on my stomach a little bit, I'd feel pain simply because there was I was so bloated. But ever since I ever since I stopped eating the carbohydrates, no, I don't know I no longer eat pasta more than, like, maybe 3, 4 times a year at the most. Okay. I still eat rice from time to time, but it's not very much of it. You know, like, a quarter of a cup uncooked rice since whereas I used to eat, like, a cup of uncooked rice. So Uh-huh. And but by doing all that, I seem to be I I don't have the the pain in the gut anymore that I used to have. Well, that's good. Is gone. Yeah. And, and I've I see it seems to be working as far as losing weight. And, you know, I keep hearing everybody talking about how you need to have carbohydrates, you need to have carbohydrates.
And the reason for the that they say that is because the sugar is one of the main sources of fuel for, glucose is one of the main sources of fuel for your muscles.
[00:27:26] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:27:27] Jamon Fries:
Well, glucose, which is sugar, is what any carbohydrate turns into in your body. Mhmm. Your it instantly becomes glucose.
[00:27:37] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:27:38] Jamon Fries:
But your muscles actually don't want to live on glucose. If given a choice between using fat or glucose as a fuel Uh-huh. They will always use the fat.
[00:27:54] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Interesting.
[00:27:56] Jamon Fries:
They operate much better on fat. They they so, I mean, everything everything works much better by increasing the fat that you eat as long as it's a good fat. You know, you don't wanna you don't wanna eat the, you don't wanna eat the really high processed fats and stuff like that, but, you know, the the animal fat is pretty good for you. A lot of people don't like it because of, cholesterol and stuff like that. The stuff like, olive oil, avocado oil, stuff like that. That's all very healthy for you. Oh, yeah. Though all of those things will actually help improve your help your muscles, help well, they'll help your muscles.
I've heard I've seen conflicting reports on that. Some of it, it's, your muscles will maintain maintain better mass if by using fats instead of sugars. But I don't I don't know. I mean, I haven't I haven't actually looked at any studies or tests to see if any of that is actually accurate or not. But I do know that your brain will operate a lot better by not having as much sugar.
[00:29:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah, sugar. It does need some carbs because your brain is basically just fat.
[00:29:12] Jamon Fries:
But, it's a No. No. Your your your brain actually does not need sugar at all. It does not need any carbs.
[00:29:19] Jesse Fries:
Every your whole body needs carbs, Jamin. You need some carbs. Our body is designed that way. Yes. Yes. You you could lose weight otherwise, but your body, it does need carbs. It's the energy. If you need energy, that's the especially if you don't have any fat on you, you know, it's like,
[00:29:38] Jamon Fries:
you you need some carbs. Okay. I I will I will agree that your body does need some glucose, but your body actually produces glucose if you let it. Your liver will produce all the glucose that your body needs.
[00:29:58] Jesse Fries:
I don't know all the signs on it, but basically the liver, it breaks apart sugar into glucose and everything like that is what it does. That's what your liver does.
[00:30:08] Jamon Fries:
Yes. But it can also create glucose from from a few things that I've read least recently and I believe that the that the liver can actually can actually, it I mean, it it doesn't appear of and out
[00:30:20] Jesse Fries:
of nowhere. I would I'd have to see the data on that, personally. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:30:25] Jamon Fries:
That's that's just that's something that I've just heard, like, in the last 2 weeks. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. So look into it. It it's not popularized or anything like that. Oh, man. So so so okay. Okay. So so okay. Thank you for throwing all that, like okay. Yeah. The Yeah.
[00:30:45] Jesse Fries:
I suppose I did should've let off with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just because some crack crackpot said it doesn't mean that the
[00:30:58] Jamon Fries:
I I have I've heard it from a couple of different sources, so it may be but, you know, so much like Well, right. Musk UFO thing. Exactly.
[00:31:06] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Just because it's a different exactly. Yeah. You you never know what this sort of to to me, when it comes to diet or anything like that is, if it makes sense, that works. If you have to actually stretch your brain around something, it it doesn't make sense. The the the the easier something sounds to be to where it just makes sense, like logical sense, then that's it. But if you actually have to jump all these hoops to get around something to actually come up with something, it's it's fake. It's false. You know? It's like, it just doesn't make sense. You know? If you yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's how I am. So I would not definitely not, think that personally. That's,
[00:31:50] Jamon Fries:
yeah. Yeah. No. That seems to be against everything. You know, like I said, though, I would never cut carbs out completely. I mean, I I do believe that you need to eat vegetables. You need you need to eat fruits and stuff like that. I mean, if if if you're not eating them for carbohydrates, you at least need to eat them for the different vitamins and minerals that they have. No. I understand. I understand. Very, very essential that that you keep your body going. But one but, I mean, you you do know what they're calling Alzheimer's now. Right?
[00:32:21] Jesse Fries:
What?
[00:32:23] Jamon Fries:
It's type 3 diabetes.
[00:32:25] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[00:32:27] Jamon Fries:
I know. That's how that's how large of an impact too much glucose has on the brain.
[00:32:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Possibly. I I don't you see see, this is the thing. I don't I don't trust scientists. I I I I I trust I trust what makes sense. If something if somebody just comes up with this new thing, it's like that's their guess. You know, it's there have been so many papers that have been faked. There is so much of that even sign high level scientific, peer reviewed studies that have been faked and bad data, bad this. So I really if it makes sense, I'll do it. Otherwise, I'm just it's like, hey.
[00:33:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, one one of the biggest problems with just trusting science is that you really have to look at who's paying for the for those things, for the for science to to come up with those those theories because I completely. Yeah. I mean, if if you look at at most of the at well, basically, everything, related to food, the FDA and, you know, all of the there's there's a few organizations out there that are supposed to, to calculate and figure out the best diet for for people and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But they're almost all of their funding and with as far as with the FDA, a lot of the people in the FDA are actually from big food.
They're from the food corporations. Uh-huh. So how can you trust the science that they're putting out when they're when they originate from the from the from one place? And lo and behold, suddenly everything that they're putting out agrees with what these what the what the food industry wants.
[00:34:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. When it comes to attacking the food industry, I I think there's been so much about that lately that I just it's food for god's sakes, people. Yes. They're trying to make they're trying to make things cheaper, but that's pretty much all they're trying to do. Because no matter what, you need the calories. No matter what, you need these things to survive. You you you you need food, and so they always have a market. It's just they try to make they just try to sell you a better tasting this or that, but thinking thinking that is, like, this big bad thing is, like, what lately, some people have been blaming, the tobacco companies for buying the food companies for why things are so bad right now, like RFK said that, you know, and everything like that.
And, yes, they they bought into it like, Reynolds and everything like that. They they they bought food companies, but food is food. It's it's not it's not it's not it's not a poison. It's not like tobacco or anything like that. You know, they're not trying to Well, depending on the food. Right. But still, it's like highly processed. Yeah. But, you know, that that makes things that makes food cheaper and so people more eat people can eat. There's less starvation and everything like that. The world is actually Right. Full of food. So much food. It's not even funny.
[00:35:44] Jamon Fries:
So No. Yeah. No. I I completely understand, man. I I completely agree. I I I don't think there's, like, some big conspiracy of the of the food conglomerate to to do anything, you know, like that. But, there are a few things that I that concern me, such as, like, high fructose corn syrup and everything.
[00:36:06] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Sugar's better. Just I I it's Yeah. Well, not all that sugar is better. Well well, it tastes better, but it it also requires your body to break it down. Yes. Because it's a it's a bonded
[00:36:22] Jamon Fries:
yeah. It's a bonded sugar. So Which is what sugar is. Sugar is glucose. So eating glucose makes your body work more than eating carbohydrates, regular carbohydrates does. Well Your body doesn't have to turn grains into sugar.
[00:36:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. It it it it makes you work harder than, like, high for corn syrup. But it's just a carb, you you know, so My problem with high fructose corn syrup
[00:36:50] Jamon Fries:
though, and this is just from my own personal experience, I went in I've I've got gout not too long ago. You know, like well, I say not too long ago, but it was like 10, 12 years ago, something like that. Mhmm. Uh-huh. I was diagnosed with gout. And when I was talking to the doctor about it, she was asking me if I eat a lot of high fructose corn syrup. If I Right. If I eat a lot of stuff that I have and I mean, at that at that point in time, it was nothing for me to to down a 2 liter of Coke, you know, every other day or something like that. So, yeah, I was Yep. I was doing a lot of high fructose corn syrup. Uh-huh. And what she told me was that there's 2 issues with high fructose corn syrup.
The first one is that in your in your liver, it becomes 2 different things. It becomes ethanol and can and much like and just like alcohol can actually lead to liver problems
[00:37:54] Jesse Fries:
over a long period of time. So you're telling me it becomes alcohol?
[00:37:58] Jamon Fries:
Yes. In your body? High fructose corn syrup becomes the alcohol in your body.
[00:38:05] Jesse Fries:
But then the I'm gonna have to research that one too because that sounds stupid too.
[00:38:11] Jamon Fries:
I got I I have since looked it up, and I have found plenty of evidence supporting that. Okay. The other thing it does, the other component that turns into uric acid, which is what causes gout.
[00:38:29] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
[00:38:31] Jamon Fries:
Now for me, it was much more exacerbated because I, you know, I've got a bad heart, and I'm taking a diuretic. I take furosemide. Well, what the doctor was telling me was that furosemide, many quite often will leave the uric acid behind in the body instead of pulling it out with the rest of the fluid. Oh, yeah. And so by being on furosemide, my uric acid levels were already likely to be increased, and then all of the high fructose corn syrup that I was ingesting added more uric acid into that, which led to my gout. Okay. Anyway It's amazing. Ever ever since, like, ever since I completely eliminated high high fructose corn syrup from my diet Mhmm. I have not had any gout attacks since.
[00:39:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's good. That is good. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. No. It can cause inflammation. It can do all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. I don't see anything about it turning into alcohol, but it it it does it can cause, like, the same issues as alcohol.
[00:39:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, it it basically turns into ethanol if I remember correctly. I've I've seen many places that say that it has the that it can do the cirrhosis of the liver and stuff like that. Yeah. I've only found one one video that mom actually sent me that, that had it was a discussion by a scientist, and he he he went through the exact chemical breakdown of everything. And he he went he went through the chemical breakdown of alcohol and he went through the chemical breakdown of high fructose corn syrup. And other than the uric acid being produced by being being elevated by the high by the high fructose corn syrup, Everything else chemically was the exact same makeup as what, you know, what your body breaks alcohol down into.
[00:40:35] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But that doesn't make it alcohol. Well,
[00:40:43] Jamon Fries:
I'm just saying.
[00:40:45] Jesse Fries:
Alright. Fine. It affects the body the same way as alcohol. There we go. Okay. Okay. No. No. No. That's fine. That's fine. I I I I
[00:40:55] Jamon Fries:
I just I
[00:40:57] Jesse Fries:
I know because otherwise, I'd be drinking that all the time and getting drunk. I'd be having fun.
[00:41:02] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. No. It it it unfortunately
[00:41:05] Jesse Fries:
does not have the impairing ability of ethanol. So it's so it's not so it's not ethanol. So okay. Okay. We're we're we're good. Okay. Okay.
[00:41:19] Jamon Fries:
Is is alcohol ethanol or does it turn into ethanol in the body?
[00:41:23] Jesse Fries:
It's just ethanol.
[00:41:26] Jamon Fries:
Is it? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. I I thought okay. So why don't people drink gasoline the gasoline additive of ethanol?
[00:41:36] Jesse Fries:
If you this is ethanol? Technically, you probably could, but there there there is a slight difference between the types of alcohol. I really can't I don't know what off the top of my head. Yeah. Yeah. One will kill you, like, rubbing alcohol. More about alcohol than I do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, rubbing alcohol is a bad alcohol that you shouldn't drink.
[00:41:55] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. I I do. I am aware of that.
[00:41:58] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that that's that's the type of alcohol. It's not necessarily, like, the percentage or anything like that. More than like the Right. The corn, ethanol that's in the gas is probably that type of alcohol, I would bet. But I I I don't know for sure. Okay. But they probably make it into that type instead of, the type that we would drink.
[00:42:20] Jamon Fries:
That would make sense to do that. I mean, you know, consider considering that they're not trying to make, an alcohol to drink, they're trying to make an alcohol for fuel. So Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. If they if they made it one to drink, you know, it would never make it into the fuel tank. Oh, well, then you just put it into a barrel and you make some whiskey out of it. You know, some burgers. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Why why put this in the fuel tank? I'll drink this. Exactly.
[00:42:49] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Okay. Well, that was a digression that he wasn't Let's see here. Oh, apparently, there is some lady in the Guardian ready for the Guardian. What's her name? Martha Gill. She she's blaming there was a study about boredom and everything like that. But, you know, all the issues that they've had over in, England, with the protests and the riots and everything like that. She's blaming on social media and boredom. The name of the article is Riot Shooting Sadism. Blame it on the boredom of social media. So apparently, people just want they they they she's blaming social media, of course, for it instead of bad policies or any other sort of thing. So it's, that's kinda
[00:43:45] Jamon Fries:
seems kinda lame to me, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's very lame. I mean, boredom just makes you act out on the things that are already causing that are that you're already dislike.
[00:43:58] Jesse Fries:
If anything, if But it really doesn't even do that.
[00:44:02] Jamon Fries:
But if if you were going to do something because you were bored Right. And you decided that you wanted to go out on the streets with everybody else because, I mean, most most people in a protest, I I I would almost be willing to bet that at least 30 to 40% of them don't even know what they're out there for. They're just out there because a group gathered. Well, right. Right. So I guess that could maybe that's what she's saying, you know, but it's to me, it's I I highly doubt that that's what she's saying. She's trying to I I I would say that she's more likely trying to give an excuse that doesn't involve the policies that are screwing things up.
[00:44:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That that's what I'd figure. You you know, it's when when it comes to the rides over there and just everything, you know, people don't like immigration. It's just what it is. It it's, never the the natives never like it, never have, never will. Look at how we treated the Irish and everything like that. It doesn't even necessarily basically every new group that came in. No, exactly. Exactly. We don't it doesn't actually matter the color of your skin or anything like that. It just matters on your new people coming in, and you're strange, and so we don't like the way you do things, because you're not like us, you know, and you're stealing our jobs. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. It's that sort of thing. You know, it's it's why I don't understand why everybody is always so surprised in this day and age. It seems to be like, oh, how how can you hate them? You know? Well, it's normal too. You know? They're different.
[00:45:36] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's it's It absolutely is. Yeah. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it's Even if even if you don't go to that point, it's it's you you know that there's an impact for those people coming. Right. Right. You have to provide housing for them, which means that there's less houses available for the current citizens, so for the people that are currently here. You have to provide food for them, which means that there's less food for the people that are here. There's
[00:46:02] Jesse Fries:
yes. That that that's true in general, but we have a glut of food, so we don't have to really worry about that.
[00:46:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. For the most part, yeah. So I would agree with that.
[00:46:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's yeah. I just find it interesting play blaming social media and blaming boredom. It's just
[00:46:23] Jamon Fries:
Well, the the problem the the the reason that they blame social media, and it's it's a very easy thing to blame, is because it actually gives people that wanna say something a place to say it. And then, like, people will see it, then they'll be like, yeah. That's right. We need to stand up against this. Well Yeah. Yeah. So so so so the the riots and stuff like that, it it may build a little bit faster. It may there may be a few people from outside the area coming in to join into it simply because more people know about it. Right. Right. If no if if you didn't have social media, you'd be like, okay. So there's something going on 3 blocks down the road, but, you know, I'm bored and at home so I have no idea what's actually going on down there so I can't go so I'm not gonna go to join in.
Whereas, there's social media, it's like they're, you know, 10 miles away. I agree with them. Let's go. You know? So so it does things can build faster because of Shell's social media, but that's simply because more people are seeing and hearing the same things.
[00:47:32] Jesse Fries:
I I could see that. I could see that. And she also did point out that it's kinda like, you know, how people on social media, they they're they a lot of what they do is they become, overaggressive in their words and everything like that because they're bored. Wow. And and so they'll just troll people. Because they're bored. Well, no. Some of it probably is. Come on. The trolls out there I've been dealing
[00:47:57] Jamon Fries:
I've been dealing with keyboard pirates and trolls since, oh god, since the first time I got into gaming back in Right. It could play it it could be 2000. It could just be that they're all
[00:48:10] Jesse Fries:
just bored, you know, or trying not to be bored. Maybe that's what she's trying to say. We're trying not to be bored. Boredom may play a small part into that, but it, it
[00:48:20] Jamon Fries:
I think it's more the the anonymity. You don't know who you don't you don't actually have to face the person that you're saying these things to. Right. So you're more willing to say stuff that's nasty. I yeah. You know, if you're if you're face to face, there's consequences. Like, you might get hit if you say that.
[00:48:43] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. True. Whereas
[00:48:45] Jamon Fries:
online, there is no consequence.
[00:48:50] Jesse Fries:
I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. If you and a lot of times you might just think that there's no consequences. So it's like some of the Right. Right. Some of the reasons people have been thrown in jail in, the UK it's like, apparently, some of them have said, well, let's go burn down that mosque. You know, it's, like, you you shouldn't do that. That's a threat. You you you know? It's, Yes. Which to me, it's funny that should not make a threat. Exactly. Threats are illegal. This is just the common sense. Yeah. You know, I don't know why you need extra laws for it, but they have all the extra laws over in the UK for it. But you know, a threat is a threat. So if you actually threaten to do something or if you actually say, you need to go do this, you know, if they take it up Right.
[00:49:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah, that's a threat. But, you know, it's Yeah. There's to to me, there's 2 things that you should that you can actually get in trouble for on the Internet. Mhmm. Number 1 is threats. You can absolutely cannot say I'm going to do this to you. I'm going we should do this or something like that because that's that's threat that's a threat. The other thing is is the cyber bullying issue.
[00:49:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[00:49:57] Jamon Fries:
You know, it's you're not actually saying that you're gonna do something to them, but you're still bullying them. No. Yeah. So, you know and I mean, I've I've seen many, many reports about teens that have committed suicide because of because they were bullied online. So I I can completely understand why you would make laws towards that as well. Mhmm. But everything else, I mean, especially here in the US because, you know, we have freedom of speech and everything like that supposedly. Everything else is fair game. Yeah. To me, all of this Yeah. To me, all of this censorship that people do is simply because they don't want to hear that someone else has a different opinion.
[00:50:45] Jesse Fries:
The the I I I agree. I agree. People have, gotten upset at different opinions. And Yeah. To me, that's a it's a huge problem. To me, it's it's like if you don't have free speech, I I really find the society to be to have a major issue. And I think governments Mhmm. If they restrict free speech too much, I think it really could have a detrimental effect for the government as in revolution or protests, riots, things like that. If you restrict positive. If you restrict the steam valve that, freedom of speech is, it doesn't the pressure starts to build and build and build and build. Free speech and jokes and things like this, everything in there actually allows the steam to be vented off before an explosion actually happens within a a society. Yes.
[00:51:43] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with that. The there's, you know, there's a couple of things that concern me with the way people the way people hand talk about things and handle things now. Uh-huh. Number numb like, with the whole Facebook censoring stuff. Right. I've actually never had a problem with Facebook doing that. Uh-huh. Because Facebook is a privately owned organization. Well, they would do it. They have every right to control all the their product. Yes. I mean, so anybody anybody that says we have freedom of speech, so you can't do that to us. As long as it's Facebook alone and not with no government interference, as long as it's Facebook alone saying we don't like this speech on here, I see absolutely no problem with them doing that kind of censorship.
I mean, you should just go to a new another platform if you don't if you don't like that. Mhmm. It's not like Facebook is the only one. They're the predominant one, but they're not the only one. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:52:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I I really don't have a problem with Facebook. I do have a problem with the government, try make it trying to force them to do things, whether or not willingly or not. I think the government should stay out of that sort of thing. Absolutely. Political parties? Sure. Why not? You can go to other people and say, yeah. But as a government, the government should if you're in power, you you shouldn't be able to do that. You know? It's it's not if you're outside of power, yeah, you can go and make your case and see if it's a good case, and then is the wheel of ideas. To me, that's what freedom of speech is, and to have anybody get rid of that or try to stop that really can lead to major problems. Because if there's no information, if the information is being restricted, then people start to come up with all these, conspiracy theories and things like that about why it's happening, this and that. And so just restricting and especially if you're restricting jokes and things like that, it makes people go, why are you restricting that? What is the point of this? Is there something there that is hidden?
Is that why you are don't want us to know? Exactly. Exactly. Especially if it's just, like, jokes and shit like that, you know, because Oh, yeah. Come on. COVID was an extreme thing, and so, of course, you're gonna have jokes. You're gonna have bad jokes. You're gonna have good jokes. You're gonna have, anti COVID jokes. You're gonna have anti vaccine jokes. You're gonna have all these things. You know? Just let it fly, and that is the best medicine. You you you know, and to do otherwise just doesn't make sense.
[00:54:22] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. And I mean, you know, I am I am usually a strict, constitutionalist. I I To me, everything goes by the constitution.
[00:54:32] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:54:33] Jamon Fries:
And in the constitution, it doesn't say that no one in no one in the US can restrict can restrict speech. It specifically says that the government cannot make any laws that restrict speech. Mhmm. Yep. Nope. So, I mean, as long as as long as it's not the you know, I I take that to being the government telling people not to not to allow certain speech on their platforms. I consider that to be a breach of of the freedom of speech as well. It's not technically a law, but they're using the force of the law to to tell them to do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And but but as far as outside of the government, anyone has all has every right to do that. Just like everyone has every business has the right to refuse service to anyone
[00:55:23] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. For any reason.
[00:55:25] Jamon Fries:
Yep. You know, I I keep I keep here I I keep hearing about these, court cases brought up against that cake against the cake maker out in Denver.
[00:55:35] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right. Somewhere in Colorado. Yeah. Colorado. Yeah. Or just because they refuse to make a specific
[00:55:42] Jamon Fries:
cake to celebrate a specific thing that happens to be LGBTQ Uh-huh. They're being taken to court.
[00:55:49] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly.
[00:55:51] Jamon Fries:
It's not a private lawsuit taking them to court, I don't think. I think it's I I believe I mean, I could be mistaken, but I believe that it's actually involving the, the the the prosecutor and stuff like that too. Oh, the state in some cases. So the state is, possibly It's the state bringing it, not not an individual for in a private suit.
[00:56:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it's that's a messy one. I I, Jerry's side, I'm on your side with that generally too. If a business doesn't wanna do business with somebody, that's fine. Yeah. There there's there's always limitations. You know, you you it's like I don't know. It's it's a very tricky one. It's like, would you allow them not to make a cake for, a minority? You you know, like like a racial minority. You know, that's where it kinda gets
[00:56:45] Jamon Fries:
iffy there, on that one. See, I don't I don't think it does. Well, yeah. It doesn't. David, and the reason that I say that is because I truly believe that as a private person doing business, I have the right not to do business with another person. Mhmm. It doesn't matter what my reasoning for it is.
[00:57:07] Jesse Fries:
It it it does because there's the civil rights act and everything like that. So it actually does per the law. I understand your point of view and in a libertarian sort of way, I agree with it in that sort of line, but when it comes to actual law and everything like that, there are restrictions, you because you can't just not do one subset of, group and everything like that. So it's if it comes to religion, though, that that seems to be kind of a more sanctified
[00:57:40] Jamon Fries:
more Unless it's certain religions.
[00:57:43] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. But in this case, his his whole thing is that it's against my religion and so I shouldn't have to do it. That that's his that's his whole reasoning. So with that Yep. It's
[00:57:55] Jamon Fries:
a it's a it's an argument. Wait, wait, wait, Ted. Essentially, you're coming up to 2 protected classes. Religion has always been protected in the US ever since the founding. Right. And the LGBTQ is considered a protected class whereas you can't. There are limitations on what you can on how you can handle things regarding those that that certain group of people. Like, you can't you can't not give them a job because they're LGBTQ. Right. Right. Right. I I can never remember what the rest of the those letters are and stuff, so I always just stop it off at LGBTQ. I know there's a lot more. Know that, but No need to say that. But yeah. Everybody knows what you need. So that's all they're asking. All the time. But Yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. So, I mean, I I know that there's those protections and stuff, but, you know, to me, when it when it's business, just don't take your business there.
Well, you know, there is the house. Right. Ever since ever since the my problem with with everything that's going on is that ever since the first lawsuit was was went went up and was turned in was, and and the the owner of the cake shop won it, Ever since then, there have been people that specifically go there to get these cakes knowing that he won't make them so that they can file a lawsuit.
[00:59:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that's how the courts work. To me, that's the biggest problem. I think it's funny. I think it's funny. If you're gonna stand on the principle, you're gonna have to deal with the the repercussions of that principle. Plain and simple. It's funny to us sitting here, but I highly doubt that it would be pleasurable if it happened to us. Well, he can always go out of business. That's his choice. If he wants to deal with that and stay in business or not, you know, that's also his choice. You know, there there's it cuts both ways, you know? Oh, it really does. He doesn't have to stay in business and deal with that crap, you know, he really doesn't. Yep. You know, so he doesn't necessarily have a right to do business, you know, if people aren't willing. So, you know, there's it cuts both ways on that one. So but okay. So onto a different constitutional matter.
I'm sharing the screen. Do you see that? Yeah. I see that. Okay. So so yeah. So, basically, there's this whole thing, where Hawaii had to allow more weapons to be, used openly and everything like that, due to the Supreme Court.
[01:00:30] Jamon Fries:
Right.
[01:00:32] Jesse Fries:
And so because of that, Hawaii has had to change a lot of their laws. And apparently it's even getting involved in like halberds and spears and swords and whatnot. Do you see these pictures that I'm showing you? Yeah. It's like I do. Look at this samurai sword right there. You know, it's like so these jackasses are just walking around with with these things because they wanna make a point. I I think the point is that they're overweight and out of shape is my what I'm thinking, but you know, it's Oh, yeah. Well, they're they're overweight, they're out of shape, and they're obviously
[01:01:07] Jamon Fries:
big nerds. They're freaking LARPercy. To to be able to find that that that Halberd, you know? Right? That that's like major geeked out. I know. Look at this. Yeah. It it's
[01:01:18] Jesse Fries:
it the the the these people are LARPers. That that that that's nothing against LARPing, but it just is
[01:01:27] Jamon Fries:
it's hilarious. And, you know, I mean, it's the the this I have some issues with that.
[01:01:35] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:01:37] Jamon Fries:
Firearm firearms are not illegal are not illegal to own in most states of the US. But if I were to take a, if I were to take, like, a broadsword and carry it around Mhmm. I would be stopped by the police and questioned about it because it's not I I think that there's actually laws against carrying swords.
[01:02:04] Jesse Fries:
Well, in certain jurisdictions, there are. But see, that's the thing. It's they've actually made it so that the Hawaii the way they phrased it in their laws that they had to change is that, basically, you just can carry a weapon. So these
[01:02:21] Jamon Fries:
so these Oh, man. It's like I would I would definitely be walking around with a with a flail, man. I would be walking around with a flail every day. But, you you know, so it's like it's like some of these pictures are these these guys
[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:
walking around with unsheathed swords. You know, there have always been cities where you have to keep your sword in your whole in in the sheath, you have to. Yeah. Your your gun has to be holstered. Exactly.
[01:02:48] Jamon Fries:
You you can never you can't it's it's always no matter no matter what the laws are, it's always illegal to walk around town with the pistol in your hand.
[01:02:59] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:03:00] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. The same thing. With the same thing.
[01:03:02] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah. So I I So if you're if you're gonna carry swords around, they they better be in a sheath as far as I'm concerned. Yep. But yes. Apparently, the cops were sitting there talking to these guys and whatnot because Yeah. Yeah. So that's,
[01:03:18] Jamon Fries:
yeah, that's different. Well, the the other the other thing that I've the other thing that I see concerned there is the fact that it's a group of people walking around. You know, if it was just individuals walking around with their swords and stuff like that Right. I wouldn't see too much of a problem, you know, as long as, like I said, it was sheathed, You know, whether it's on the back or on the hip or whatever. Well, but right. But When you get a large group like that that's carrying weapons openly that are not sheathed or, you know, in the case of the Halberd, well, there's really no way nothing you can do with the Halberd to make it non lethal, you know. So but when you have a large group of people that are walking around like that to just a normal person, if I saw people like that, I would be steering clear as far as I could. Actually, apparently, because you have no idea what they're gonna do with those. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, though, it it's
[01:04:12] Jesse Fries:
nobody cared.
[01:04:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because well, look at these guys. So, you you know what I mean? You know, I I myself might have to be concerned because I weigh more than any of them do. Right. Right. Right. For a normal sized person, I'm sorry. All you gotta do is walk fast and you're getting away from it. No. Yeah. It's it's just
[01:04:34] Jesse Fries:
plus, you know, it was kind of like a protest is what they were doing. So I could see legally wise, it's they're demonstrating. There's a demonstration as a protest. So, you know, that falls also in freedom of speech. Yes. And so I I yeah. So I don't have a problem with that, but, yeah, I I just thought that was hilarious. Protesting. What are they protesting though? Well, they're just they're they're they're it's a demonstration. It's a demonstration. It's not necessarily a protest. It's a demonstration. It's, they're saying we can do this. We have the right to do this. So we're demonstrating our right to do this is basically what they're doing. Okay. It's asinine in my book, but, you know, I just thought it was hilarious. Especially, I had read the article, but I hadn't seen the pictures, that I saw the pictures. And I'm just, like, dying here. You know? It's
[01:05:22] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's Yeah. It's it is. It is pretty just the pictures are definitely hilarious. Yeah. They really are, we consider it. As far as I'm concerned, damn it. If you're gonna be wearing if you're gonna be carrying those kinds of weapons up around, at least dress the period, man.
[01:05:40] Jesse Fries:
Right? Exactly.
[01:05:42] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. You you know, it's Modern clothes kinda carrying around a halberd. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't look right.
[01:05:50] Jesse Fries:
It really doesn't. It really doesn't. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think, that that'll probably we've covered pretty much everything. So I just wanna let everybody know. Have anything else to say. Cool. Cool. So, basically, with the way this, we're gonna make money on this is value for value. So if you found this to be this podcast to be entertaining, or if you got anything out of it, please donate to us. Whatever you want, it'll be on our website, and it will also be through whatever podcast app that you have. You can just click the donate button there, and you can, donate whatever amount you wanna give us, whatever this was worth to you. Was it worth $1,000 to you? Send us $1,000.
Was it worth, $3? Send us the $3. No matter what you send us, we will be happy with what you send us. This is a value for value system. It was, first, done by, no agenda podcast and which I think is a great podcast. You should go listen to them as well if you want to. But please just give us what you think this was worth, and, we will see you next time. You have anything to add there, Jamon?
[01:07:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, I would just say thank you everyone for putting up with us. I mean, you know, this is our this is the first time we've done this and, you know, if if you think that it's worth a penny and wanna give us a penny, I'd even take that. You know, Even that is good reinforcement as to, hey, at least you found some value in what we're doing. No. Definitely. Definitely.
[01:07:26] Jesse Fries:
Cool. Well, thank you everybody, and thank you for listening to the mindless meanderings. I am, Jesse Friese and, my co host I'm Jamin. There you go. And, we will see you next time.
Hello, everybody. My name is Jesse Fries. I am the host of, the meandering, or the mindless meanderies, with my cohost, Jamin Fries, my brother over here. And, of course, I screwed it up.
[00:00:29] Jamon Fries:
How are you doing today, Jay? But, you know, that's what happens. Yes. Yes. I'm actually doing pretty good. Doing pretty good. Good. Good. Good. Yourself?
[00:00:38] Jesse Fries:
Oh, not too bad. Not too bad. Kids were kind of annoying this morning, but, you know, that's part of the process. I hope they get that way. That's what kids do, isn't it? Yeah. I I think so. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. So welcome everybody to the first episode of our podcast. We're gonna try a few things here, see what is good, what sucks, and everything like
[00:01:01] Jamon Fries:
that. And hopefully, people will like this. That hopefully. I I you know, that would at least hope that, you know, at least some people might live like to listen to us. Exactly.
[00:01:08] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. So for everybody out there, basically, we're just gonna talk about whatever we feel like talking about. We're 2 brothers of the same mother and possibly the same father. At least that's what they tell us. Still they say. Yeah. So they say. So they say. But, we we we ramble a lot, when we talk, so we figured, might as well do a podcast and see how that goes.
[00:01:30] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well Should be an exciting adventure.
[00:01:34] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. So, Jaeme, what topics do you got for us today that we could cover? Well, there's a couple of things that I'm pretty interested in,
[00:01:45] Jamon Fries:
technology, of course, as you well know, and politics. That's another big thing for me. And there there, ran across something that I found very interesting lately that actually combines the 2 of them. Oh, okay. And that is a letter that Mike Zuckerberg wrote to congress explaining that Biden that the Biden administration was try was trying to force them to censor anyone that did not that basically anyone that did not agree with what the prevailing thought was on on COVID.
[00:02:22] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. So what basically everybody thought?
[00:02:25] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, what what everyone knew to be true, but it which wasn't what the government was telling us was true. Right. So, I mean, they they even went so far as to to request them to to censor any comedy, any anything that that was done for for laughs instead of, you know, trying to be serious, such as like Babylon Bee or other other places like that. Uh-huh. It was very amusing. And I find it very interesting that he sent that letter out now apologizing, basically apologizing for having censored everybody.
[00:03:04] Jesse Fries:
That is weird. That is really weird. Any idea why he did it?
[00:03:09] Jamon Fries:
I actually have a pretty pretty good idea as to why it may have happened. Uh-huh. Because he he then start he then went into how he and Facebook were were supposed to, and from now on would would remain completely neutral, not showing any stance towards anything or anything like that. Uh-huh. But to me, it sounds more like what he's doing is saying, hey, Trump. If you get into office, please don't go after me for censoring the public.
[00:03:41] Jesse Fries:
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. May may maybe he's also Go ahead. Oh, maybe he's also, jealous of Elon Musk. You know? He's, he's causing all the troubles. Be too. Yeah.
[00:03:55] Jamon Fries:
That that very well could be true too. Yeah. Because at the at the same time, there's another story that that I read that is kind of complete polar opposite. Uh-huh. Have you heard of Pavel Durov, the Yes. Yep. Person that made Telegram? Yep. Yep. Yep. He was arrested in France.
[00:04:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I saw that. I saw that. I never knew who he was before this.
[00:04:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, he he he would there this is his second time to be, to be in full to to for the government to try to force him to do something. He was the original he was the original creator of VK over in Russia, which was the, equivalent of Russia's Facebook.
[00:04:40] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:04:42] Jamon Fries:
And the Russian government eventually came in and eventually came in and slowly took that over because he wasn't providing them the detailed information about the people that were using his his his, platform that disagreed with the government. Okay. Okay. So this is his second time now where the where a government is coming in and telling him, you need to do this, but they arrested him in France. They claim that it's because he was he didn't remove content that was, supporting in some way child pornography.
[00:05:23] Jesse Fries:
Well, and terrorism and many other things from what I understand too. Yeah. The child pornography was the main thing that they arrested him for because
[00:05:31] Jamon Fries:
I mean, you know, it's kind of funny that what the what the other what his, what Telegram's put out was that he has always complied with with all of the EU laws. Uh-huh. Anyone that should be that shouldn't anything that shouldn't be up there that's illegal to be posted is is removed fairly quickly. And he always travels all over the EU without any problem. But this time, as soon as he landed in France, boom, he was put into jail. Well, that's weird because
[00:06:00] Jesse Fries:
isn't he now, like, a French citizen? I thought he got at least residency or something like that in France. I
[00:06:07] Jamon Fries:
don't know. I haven't heard about that. I know that he currently lives, and Telegram is based out of, Dubai, if I remember correctly.
[00:06:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. It's kinda weird. The Middle East actually seems to be more free speech oriented than the west in the west in the west in the west in the Middle East. No. I know. I know. But it's kinda funny how that's been working out. Yeah. It's, It it really is. Yeah.
[00:06:32] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. So that that that, you know, that that I found that very interesting simply because, you know, it combines the tech, the the whole social media, and everything like that, which I've never really gotten into. And Right. Right. The and politics, which I've always gotten into.
[00:06:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No. The the the Musk thing really or or the Zuckerberg thing. That is to me, it's he's always been a lap dog for the government. So it's actually quite surprising. I I I really wonder what his thinking is for him to actually do the shift over to, being more free speech oriented. Because seriously, what's wrong with the jokes? You know, if you can't do a joke Yeah. Yeah. No. You know
[00:07:22] Jamon Fries:
as far as I I think there's possibly 2 things that go into that, Doug, that could possibly go into that. One is that, you know, he's concerned about any political fallout if Trump were to get into office. Right. The second possibility is maybe their subscriptions are going down and people are leaving Facebook because of all of this. Well, it's so he's I mean, he's done this many different times throughout throughout the existence of Facebook. You know? Right. He it gets shown that he shows data. He goes out and apologizes. It gets shown. He sells data. He goes out and apologizes.
He's he's always apologizing, and people, for some reason, are thinking that he's gonna actually change the way he does things. He never has.
[00:08:08] Jesse Fries:
That's true. That's true.
[00:08:10] Jamon Fries:
But so
[00:08:12] Jesse Fries:
yeah. I I find it so weird. Maybe maybe it's follows. Right. Maybe it's because just like Instagram and everything like that or Facebook has really been it if you ask the young kids, it's crap. Nobody uses Facebook. The only reason anybody that's young has a Facebook account, generally, from what I understand, is just because the parents have it. And that's the only reason why they otherwise, they're doing, Instagram or they're doing TikTok or they're doing Snapchat or, any of those things. I use some of those, like TikTok. I like TikTok. And Instagram isn't too bad. That's a Facebook product as well. But Yeah. You can get sucked into those. Any of those on my phone or on my computer. Okay. Probably smart because you could you could really get sucked into those, like, hardcore sucked in. Like like, 2 hours have gone by, and you're going, well, what did I do? Since you were just gonna watch TV anyways, it's not really a big deal. You know? So Exactly. I mean, for me, it's, I'm reading a book 2 hours go away. What go by? What the heck did I do? You know? I mean,
[00:09:19] Jamon Fries:
I have not achieved anything today. So it doesn't really matter what I'm looking at, but I'm always looking at something.
[00:09:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That I that's pretty much me too. I do have to I do other things around the house too, of course, but, yeah. Oh, yeah. So so so speaking of our first podcast here, you know, as brothers. Right? So with that, apparently, I I just it was, like, announced today or yesterday. Apparently, the Kelsey brothers have decided to copy us.
[00:09:51] Jamon Fries:
I heard that. Yes. Yeah. Not all not only have they decided to copy us, but somebody actually paid them a whole bunch of money. Yeah. Like, a $100,000,000.
[00:10:00] Jesse Fries:
Their stuff. Yeah. Why why is that happening to us already? Come on now. Oh, I know why. I'm not me or you? Well, I'm married, so I couldn't date her. But you you're not dating Taylor Swift. So, obviously, that has to be why. So it's, That's true. Yeah. Obviously. Damn it, Jamen. Come on. Date Taylor Swift. I'm sorry, man. I'm slacking here.
[00:10:28] Jamon Fries:
But, they shouldn't have copied us. That's all I'm saying. I I agree completely. You know, I I can't have much hate for Kelsey, though, considering, you know, I'm in Kansas, so I'm a huge Kansas City fan. You know? There is that. There is that. For him.
[00:10:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I just thought that was funny. The the timing of that was kinda funny. So Oh, yeah. I know. That's absolutely hilarious. Yep. Let's see here. You got anything else there?
[00:10:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, the talking about we were talking about Elon Musk earlier, and I saw some videos, and it got me really, really pumped up and excited because I thought it was very awesome. But then I started doing more searches, and I have not been able to find another single source other than, like, 4 YouTube videos that are all basically just the same exact thing talking about this. Okay. So what is it? I I don't know if it's true or not. I'm kind of leaning towards that it might not be, but you never know for sure. Right. So supposedly, a Elon Musk unveiled a what they call a UFO fighter jet.
Okay. This is a, fighter jet that supposedly goes 4,600 miles per hour. Uh-huh. And can fly at heights up to a 105,000 feet.
[00:12:00] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:12:02] Jamon Fries:
I think it's feet anyways, which is, like, most of our standard fighters right now can only hit, like, 60 to 70,000. Right. Right. So the fact that this one goes so so the reason for it is because supposedly, they are using a a rocket launch, you know, a space faring a a space shuttle rocket launch booster as the engine.
[00:12:29] Jesse Fries:
Interesting.
[00:12:31] Jamon Fries:
Which means that it doesn't need to draw, you know, as much oxygen so it can get into those higher elevations where the where there's less oxygen in the air. Right. Right. And if that was true, it would be amazing.
[00:12:46] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:12:48] Jamon Fries:
I mean, it you know, it it kind of goes back kinda takes me back to the, what was it, the u two? Uh-huh. I think it was the one that, that was the old high speed reconnaissance that we used to fly over Russia regularly. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This one, it it's you know, goes about 2,000 miles per hour faster than the u two did Okay. Which considering how much difficulty they had with just the 2,000 with the u 2. And unless they've significantly, monstrously in in, improved the technology in the hull Right. I don't know if it's actually possible because the the u two at 2,000 would start overheating. And I mean, it would it would get to the point where the plane was almost melting.
[00:13:39] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. With the atmosphere. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:13:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So unless there have been massive improvements in in the, in the metallurgy for to for to shape to make the body of the aircraft, I don't know if that kind of speed would actually be realistic or not.
[00:13:58] Jesse Fries:
Maybe if you get high up if you get high enough up in that atmosphere, it could or outside the atmosphere, of course. But Outside the atmosphere. Yeah. But beyond that, yeah. But I I as you've been talking here, I decided to Google it too. I checked. Well, I don't use Google, but yeah. I I I searched. I use Bing generally. But anyways, it's I all I found were YouTube videos. There there was nothing in print media on this at all. So Yeah. Exactly.
[00:14:29] Jamon Fries:
And they they say they're there's they say they're calling it the X1, which Yeah. Yeah. If you if you see if you pull up the X1, that was actually one of the jets that Chuck Yeager flew back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. He was a test pilot. That was Right. So, I mean, I I think that it's all just a load of crap. I don't think it's actually true. But That's what I would say. Wouldn't it be awesome if it was?
[00:14:54] Jesse Fries:
It would be awesome. It would be awesome. But, yeah, I think it's full of crap. It's, just some YouTubers having fun with you. Yeah. Yeah. One of the reasons one of the reasons that I actually think that is because of something that Elon Musk said himself.
[00:15:08] Jamon Fries:
Uh-huh. When he was talking to when he was talking to someone higher up in the air force, it was, there was a public discussion between them. And he said that the day of the manned of the manned piloted man piloted aircraft is basically at an end. So why would he put so much money into making one
[00:15:33] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. If he thinks that it's no longer gonna be around. This is coming from a man that can't even get a car to drive right for god's sakes. Oh, I I know this. I know this.
[00:15:45] Jamon Fries:
But, you know, the and, you know, I've I've I've heard I saw that argument in in a few other sources too, you know, that that he can't even do auto the autopilot. So what do you think? Why why do you think you could, have a plane fly itself? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's like you could do a drone, of course, but Well, yeah. And and see, here's the thing though, is that if you if you just to make it so that a jet so you can do higher g's on a jet Uh-huh. And to eliminate the potential for human life loss if you if you lose a jet, You could very easily build a flight sim simulator cockpit with 360 all the way around so that the pilot would still have to turn and look behind him like he does now.
Mhmm. But it it would be completely wireless. He wouldn't actually be in the plane. Much like drones are controlled now. It's it's a person with a joystick. It's not done it's not done autonomously. Well, right. Right. Why why why would you have to jump to autonomous for a for an unmanned fighter jet when you could just put them into a into a cockpit on the ground
[00:16:58] Jesse Fries:
and then deploy the plane up there? Yep. Yep. Then you wouldn't have to worry about g forces or anything like that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. As long as you have the good as long as you have a good data connection. Yeah. Yeah. Not not like your Internet.
[00:17:11] Jamon Fries:
So it's, Right. Yeah. Yeah. No. We we definitely need better than 29
[00:17:16] Jesse Fries:
29 megabyte download. Download. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Better than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And probably better ping rates and everything like that too. So yeah.
[00:17:24] Jamon Fries:
Well, considering that my Internet believes that I'm in Denver, Colorado. Well, there you go. There you go. My my ping is pretty high. My ping is up in the forties to fifties.
[00:17:37] Jesse Fries:
Woah. That's low. That that's crap, dude.
[00:17:44] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Dude. Whenever I do whenever I'm doing something whenever I've got something online, like a Discord or something like that, if I if I turned it on so that I can listen to what I'm to what I'm saying, back before I before I got the Internet that I have right now, it was pretty much timed pretty well with my voice. When I said it, it was pretty much there. Okay. Now I say it, and then it's there.
[00:18:14] Jesse Fries:
So what you're telling me is that this whole podcast, you are in the past. That is what you're telling me. Yes. I am absolutely telling you that. Yes. Okay. Okay. That works. That works. That works.
[00:18:26] Jamon Fries:
Not very much. You know, just a second maybe at the most. But Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm in the past right now. That's funny.
[00:18:36] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Oh, along with Musk and everything like that,
[00:18:40] Jamon Fries:
you know, the SpaceX and Boeing spacesuits don't match up. So that should be interesting. Yeah. I I have always I've always been wondering why they did that. I mean, I I know that part of the reason that Musk had to change the spacesuits is because his vessel is smaller and the seats are smaller.
[00:18:58] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. But
[00:18:59] Jamon Fries:
you you'd think that the government that NASA would at least put out some kind of uniform
[00:19:05] Jesse Fries:
spec that everyone has to adhere to. Yeah. Exactly. It's like So all space suits are basically the same. The size and the placement of the connection should basically be uniform, I don't think. But now these but now somehow we have to get new space suits up to these stuck astronauts because Boeing can't get anything right with their space stuff.
[00:19:26] Jamon Fries:
Well, I don't know I don't know if they're actually going to, send them new space suits. I did hear, that they were go that SpaceX was going to have to tear some of the stuff out of their cockpit Uh-huh. To make it and make the seats a little bit larger so they could get into them. So I don't think they're sending space suits up. I think they're they're adjusting the seats so that they'll fit.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
That's different. That's their no. I I I I don't know the logistics of space flight. So maybe it's easier to change out seats.
[00:20:01] Jamon Fries:
You know that?
[00:20:03] Jesse Fries:
I should just set up a new suit. I don't know.
[00:20:05] Jamon Fries:
One of the things with the suits is that unless they had art unless those specific astronauts had already been fitted into a SpaceX suit Uh-huh. Those suits are basically form fitting. Well, no. I understand. It's it's not a one size fits all. So I I you know, they're I don't know exactly how much free free play there is in different sizes and stuff like that, but, you know, they may have just said, you know, it's not worth seeing it. We don't wanna send suits up there just to find out that they can't fit into them. So let's let's redo the shuttle so that it can fit that what they're currently wearing. That way we can make sure we get them home. So basically what you're saying is that space flight isn't for just every man. You actually need a tailor to actually tailor this stuff. You can't just go and buy, the the off the shelf space suit just won't work for you. That's what you're telling. Unfortunately, that is true. Yes. You know, once once we get better, better technology as far as cloth and stuff where it can shrink down to form fit to our body from a larger size,
[00:21:12] Jesse Fries:
you know, then we won't have to worry about stuff like that, then anybody can go. But until we get that point, unfortunately, yes, you do need a personal tailor. If they're gonna if they're gonna want actual, like, commerce in space, they're gonna have to just come up with different sizes of suits that work, that don't necessarily conform to exact fit, but you know, that that'll just work. They're gonna have to, especially like in an emergency or something like that, you need extra suits that you could just jump into, you know, things like that. You're gonna need this sort of thing if you really wanna expand space flight.
[00:21:49] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. They put the and, you know, I completely understand why they don't do that right now though because Well, right now, the s the s the s not even not even just because there's not that many people, but because the astronauts going up there, if they had a, uni if they had a space suit that was a little bit loose, it could easily get caught on stuff that they that because it would, like, bunch out in places possibly if they were too short for it. And so it could possibly get caught up on stuff. So when they go out for a spacewalk to fix something on the ISS, they would have to be so cautious just to not snag their suit on something.
Whereas right now, because it's all form fit, there's a much much smaller chance of something like that happening.
[00:22:34] Jesse Fries:
Why do you have to be reasonable, Jayman? Come on.
[00:22:36] Jamon Fries:
Well, because I always try to be reasonable at least a little bit. I mean,
[00:22:45] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Yeah. You got anything else there?
[00:22:57] Jamon Fries:
Not really. I've I've been looking at all sorts of stuff and trying to come up with stuff, and Uh-huh. You know, I really don't oh, no. I I take that back. I take that back. It's right in front of me. I had it right on the screen, and I didn't even see it. What? Well, you know, you know, I'm a very large person. Right. Right. Right. I weigh in at about £540. So, you know, to me, there a lot of stuff about diet and things like that are are very concern concern me quite a bit. Right. And so I was watching in the interview. I for the life of me, I cannot remember the name of the man, but, he was interviewed by, Tucker Carlson.
Mhmm. And he they were talking about Ozempic specifically.
[00:23:50] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:23:53] Jamon Fries:
And I learned something very interesting about Ozempic. I've always known that it caused problems, but I had no idea why. Uh-huh. So, you know, Ozempic, there there are some people that have reported that Ozempic, that food doesn't get digested and that just sits in their stomach or in their digestive tract. It just Right. It just doesn't get processed properly. Uh-huh. And I could never figure out what a drug would have to do to cause that to happen, but I never know. Uh-huh. What does this guy say? What Ozempic does is it paralyzes the stomach.
[00:24:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:24:28] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, obviously, if you paralyze the stomach, the muscles aren't gonna be able to to move the food along. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There's So Papias said it'll get stuck. Yep. Yep. Yep. No. Yeah. There's a lot of complications with that sort of thing. It's,
[00:24:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's it's like going back to, like, the Fen Phen and everything like that back in the, what, the nineties, early 2000. Yeah. And then, you know, people started dying and everything like that. Yeah. I I'm all about, like, not taking drugs. You you know, I I I can lose a few pounds and the way I usually do it is just, cut my calories and, hope hope that works. You know? Usually, it does, and then I start eating again once I feel good enough, and then I gain it all back. And then, you know, the good old up and down. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The good old the good old weight yo yo. I'm pretty familiar with that one. Exactly.
[00:25:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. What I do what I've been doing recently is I've gotten onto the keto diet for the most I don't stick to it religiously like most people say you should. Right. And I have lost I have lost some weight. When I started it, I was up in the 5 70, 5 80 range. Okay. And I'm now down the lowest I've been recently here is down to 5:30. So Nice. Nice. There has there has been some good improvement on that. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. The what I found for myself, and, I mean, this is only for myself. I have I can't suggest that other people do this for the same reasons because You are not an expert or medical, Medical diet. Just what I myself have found Uh-huh. Is that by cutting out I've completely cut out grains. I don't cut out carbohydrates completely.
I still eat fruits and vegetables and stuff like that, but I have completely tried to cut out grains. Okay. And what I've found is that I tend to get bloated a lot less because I used to it used to be where if I pushed in on my stomach a little bit, I'd feel pain simply because there was I was so bloated. But ever since I ever since I stopped eating the carbohydrates, no, I don't know I no longer eat pasta more than, like, maybe 3, 4 times a year at the most. Okay. I still eat rice from time to time, but it's not very much of it. You know, like, a quarter of a cup uncooked rice since whereas I used to eat, like, a cup of uncooked rice. So Uh-huh. And but by doing all that, I seem to be I I don't have the the pain in the gut anymore that I used to have. Well, that's good. Is gone. Yeah. And, and I've I see it seems to be working as far as losing weight. And, you know, I keep hearing everybody talking about how you need to have carbohydrates, you need to have carbohydrates.
And the reason for the that they say that is because the sugar is one of the main sources of fuel for, glucose is one of the main sources of fuel for your muscles.
[00:27:26] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:27:27] Jamon Fries:
Well, glucose, which is sugar, is what any carbohydrate turns into in your body. Mhmm. Your it instantly becomes glucose.
[00:27:37] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:27:38] Jamon Fries:
But your muscles actually don't want to live on glucose. If given a choice between using fat or glucose as a fuel Uh-huh. They will always use the fat.
[00:27:54] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Interesting.
[00:27:56] Jamon Fries:
They operate much better on fat. They they so, I mean, everything everything works much better by increasing the fat that you eat as long as it's a good fat. You know, you don't wanna you don't wanna eat the, you don't wanna eat the really high processed fats and stuff like that, but, you know, the the animal fat is pretty good for you. A lot of people don't like it because of, cholesterol and stuff like that. The stuff like, olive oil, avocado oil, stuff like that. That's all very healthy for you. Oh, yeah. Though all of those things will actually help improve your help your muscles, help well, they'll help your muscles.
I've heard I've seen conflicting reports on that. Some of it, it's, your muscles will maintain maintain better mass if by using fats instead of sugars. But I don't I don't know. I mean, I haven't I haven't actually looked at any studies or tests to see if any of that is actually accurate or not. But I do know that your brain will operate a lot better by not having as much sugar.
[00:29:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah, sugar. It does need some carbs because your brain is basically just fat.
[00:29:12] Jamon Fries:
But, it's a No. No. Your your your brain actually does not need sugar at all. It does not need any carbs.
[00:29:19] Jesse Fries:
Every your whole body needs carbs, Jamin. You need some carbs. Our body is designed that way. Yes. Yes. You you could lose weight otherwise, but your body, it does need carbs. It's the energy. If you need energy, that's the especially if you don't have any fat on you, you know, it's like,
[00:29:38] Jamon Fries:
you you need some carbs. Okay. I I will I will agree that your body does need some glucose, but your body actually produces glucose if you let it. Your liver will produce all the glucose that your body needs.
[00:29:58] Jesse Fries:
I don't know all the signs on it, but basically the liver, it breaks apart sugar into glucose and everything like that is what it does. That's what your liver does.
[00:30:08] Jamon Fries:
Yes. But it can also create glucose from from a few things that I've read least recently and I believe that the that the liver can actually can actually, it I mean, it it doesn't appear of and out
[00:30:20] Jesse Fries:
of nowhere. I would I'd have to see the data on that, personally. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:30:25] Jamon Fries:
That's that's just that's something that I've just heard, like, in the last 2 weeks. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. So look into it. It it's not popularized or anything like that. Oh, man. So so so okay. Okay. So so okay. Thank you for throwing all that, like okay. Yeah. The Yeah.
[00:30:45] Jesse Fries:
I suppose I did should've let off with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just because some crack crackpot said it doesn't mean that the
[00:30:58] Jamon Fries:
I I have I've heard it from a couple of different sources, so it may be but, you know, so much like Well, right. Musk UFO thing. Exactly.
[00:31:06] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Just because it's a different exactly. Yeah. You you never know what this sort of to to me, when it comes to diet or anything like that is, if it makes sense, that works. If you have to actually stretch your brain around something, it it doesn't make sense. The the the the easier something sounds to be to where it just makes sense, like logical sense, then that's it. But if you actually have to jump all these hoops to get around something to actually come up with something, it's it's fake. It's false. You know? It's like, it just doesn't make sense. You know? If you yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's how I am. So I would not definitely not, think that personally. That's,
[00:31:50] Jamon Fries:
yeah. Yeah. No. That seems to be against everything. You know, like I said, though, I would never cut carbs out completely. I mean, I I do believe that you need to eat vegetables. You need you need to eat fruits and stuff like that. I mean, if if if you're not eating them for carbohydrates, you at least need to eat them for the different vitamins and minerals that they have. No. I understand. I understand. Very, very essential that that you keep your body going. But one but, I mean, you you do know what they're calling Alzheimer's now. Right?
[00:32:21] Jesse Fries:
What?
[00:32:23] Jamon Fries:
It's type 3 diabetes.
[00:32:25] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Okay.
[00:32:27] Jamon Fries:
I know. That's how that's how large of an impact too much glucose has on the brain.
[00:32:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Possibly. I I don't you see see, this is the thing. I don't I don't trust scientists. I I I I I trust I trust what makes sense. If something if somebody just comes up with this new thing, it's like that's their guess. You know, it's there have been so many papers that have been faked. There is so much of that even sign high level scientific, peer reviewed studies that have been faked and bad data, bad this. So I really if it makes sense, I'll do it. Otherwise, I'm just it's like, hey.
[00:33:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, one one of the biggest problems with just trusting science is that you really have to look at who's paying for the for those things, for the for science to to come up with those those theories because I completely. Yeah. I mean, if if you look at at most of the at well, basically, everything, related to food, the FDA and, you know, all of the there's there's a few organizations out there that are supposed to, to calculate and figure out the best diet for for people and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But they're almost all of their funding and with as far as with the FDA, a lot of the people in the FDA are actually from big food.
They're from the food corporations. Uh-huh. So how can you trust the science that they're putting out when they're when they originate from the from the from one place? And lo and behold, suddenly everything that they're putting out agrees with what these what the what the food industry wants.
[00:34:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. When it comes to attacking the food industry, I I think there's been so much about that lately that I just it's food for god's sakes, people. Yes. They're trying to make they're trying to make things cheaper, but that's pretty much all they're trying to do. Because no matter what, you need the calories. No matter what, you need these things to survive. You you you you need food, and so they always have a market. It's just they try to make they just try to sell you a better tasting this or that, but thinking thinking that is, like, this big bad thing is, like, what lately, some people have been blaming, the tobacco companies for buying the food companies for why things are so bad right now, like RFK said that, you know, and everything like that.
And, yes, they they bought into it like, Reynolds and everything like that. They they they bought food companies, but food is food. It's it's not it's not it's not it's not a poison. It's not like tobacco or anything like that. You know, they're not trying to Well, depending on the food. Right. But still, it's like highly processed. Yeah. But, you know, that that makes things that makes food cheaper and so people more eat people can eat. There's less starvation and everything like that. The world is actually Right. Full of food. So much food. It's not even funny.
[00:35:44] Jamon Fries:
So No. Yeah. No. I I completely understand, man. I I completely agree. I I I don't think there's, like, some big conspiracy of the of the food conglomerate to to do anything, you know, like that. But, there are a few things that I that concern me, such as, like, high fructose corn syrup and everything.
[00:36:06] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Sugar's better. Just I I it's Yeah. Well, not all that sugar is better. Well well, it tastes better, but it it also requires your body to break it down. Yes. Because it's a it's a bonded
[00:36:22] Jamon Fries:
yeah. It's a bonded sugar. So Which is what sugar is. Sugar is glucose. So eating glucose makes your body work more than eating carbohydrates, regular carbohydrates does. Well Your body doesn't have to turn grains into sugar.
[00:36:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. It it it it makes you work harder than, like, high for corn syrup. But it's just a carb, you you know, so My problem with high fructose corn syrup
[00:36:50] Jamon Fries:
though, and this is just from my own personal experience, I went in I've I've got gout not too long ago. You know, like well, I say not too long ago, but it was like 10, 12 years ago, something like that. Mhmm. Uh-huh. I was diagnosed with gout. And when I was talking to the doctor about it, she was asking me if I eat a lot of high fructose corn syrup. If I Right. If I eat a lot of stuff that I have and I mean, at that at that point in time, it was nothing for me to to down a 2 liter of Coke, you know, every other day or something like that. So, yeah, I was Yep. I was doing a lot of high fructose corn syrup. Uh-huh. And what she told me was that there's 2 issues with high fructose corn syrup.
The first one is that in your in your liver, it becomes 2 different things. It becomes ethanol and can and much like and just like alcohol can actually lead to liver problems
[00:37:54] Jesse Fries:
over a long period of time. So you're telling me it becomes alcohol?
[00:37:58] Jamon Fries:
Yes. In your body? High fructose corn syrup becomes the alcohol in your body.
[00:38:05] Jesse Fries:
But then the I'm gonna have to research that one too because that sounds stupid too.
[00:38:11] Jamon Fries:
I got I I have since looked it up, and I have found plenty of evidence supporting that. Okay. The other thing it does, the other component that turns into uric acid, which is what causes gout.
[00:38:29] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
[00:38:31] Jamon Fries:
Now for me, it was much more exacerbated because I, you know, I've got a bad heart, and I'm taking a diuretic. I take furosemide. Well, what the doctor was telling me was that furosemide, many quite often will leave the uric acid behind in the body instead of pulling it out with the rest of the fluid. Oh, yeah. And so by being on furosemide, my uric acid levels were already likely to be increased, and then all of the high fructose corn syrup that I was ingesting added more uric acid into that, which led to my gout. Okay. Anyway It's amazing. Ever ever since, like, ever since I completely eliminated high high fructose corn syrup from my diet Mhmm. I have not had any gout attacks since.
[00:39:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's good. That is good. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. No. It can cause inflammation. It can do all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. I don't see anything about it turning into alcohol, but it it it does it can cause, like, the same issues as alcohol.
[00:39:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, it it basically turns into ethanol if I remember correctly. I've I've seen many places that say that it has the that it can do the cirrhosis of the liver and stuff like that. Yeah. I've only found one one video that mom actually sent me that, that had it was a discussion by a scientist, and he he he went through the exact chemical breakdown of everything. And he he went he went through the chemical breakdown of alcohol and he went through the chemical breakdown of high fructose corn syrup. And other than the uric acid being produced by being being elevated by the high by the high fructose corn syrup, Everything else chemically was the exact same makeup as what, you know, what your body breaks alcohol down into.
[00:40:35] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. But that doesn't make it alcohol. Well,
[00:40:43] Jamon Fries:
I'm just saying.
[00:40:45] Jesse Fries:
Alright. Fine. It affects the body the same way as alcohol. There we go. Okay. Okay. No. No. No. That's fine. That's fine. I I I I
[00:40:55] Jamon Fries:
I just I
[00:40:57] Jesse Fries:
I know because otherwise, I'd be drinking that all the time and getting drunk. I'd be having fun.
[00:41:02] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. No. It it it unfortunately
[00:41:05] Jesse Fries:
does not have the impairing ability of ethanol. So it's so it's not so it's not ethanol. So okay. Okay. We're we're we're good. Okay. Okay.
[00:41:19] Jamon Fries:
Is is alcohol ethanol or does it turn into ethanol in the body?
[00:41:23] Jesse Fries:
It's just ethanol.
[00:41:26] Jamon Fries:
Is it? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. I I thought okay. So why don't people drink gasoline the gasoline additive of ethanol?
[00:41:36] Jesse Fries:
If you this is ethanol? Technically, you probably could, but there there there is a slight difference between the types of alcohol. I really can't I don't know what off the top of my head. Yeah. Yeah. One will kill you, like, rubbing alcohol. More about alcohol than I do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, rubbing alcohol is a bad alcohol that you shouldn't drink.
[00:41:55] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. I I do. I am aware of that.
[00:41:58] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that that's that's the type of alcohol. It's not necessarily, like, the percentage or anything like that. More than like the Right. The corn, ethanol that's in the gas is probably that type of alcohol, I would bet. But I I I don't know for sure. Okay. But they probably make it into that type instead of, the type that we would drink.
[00:42:20] Jamon Fries:
That would make sense to do that. I mean, you know, consider considering that they're not trying to make, an alcohol to drink, they're trying to make an alcohol for fuel. So Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. If they if they made it one to drink, you know, it would never make it into the fuel tank. Oh, well, then you just put it into a barrel and you make some whiskey out of it. You know, some burgers. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Why why put this in the fuel tank? I'll drink this. Exactly.
[00:42:49] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Okay. Well, that was a digression that he wasn't Let's see here. Oh, apparently, there is some lady in the Guardian ready for the Guardian. What's her name? Martha Gill. She she's blaming there was a study about boredom and everything like that. But, you know, all the issues that they've had over in, England, with the protests and the riots and everything like that. She's blaming on social media and boredom. The name of the article is Riot Shooting Sadism. Blame it on the boredom of social media. So apparently, people just want they they they she's blaming social media, of course, for it instead of bad policies or any other sort of thing. So it's, that's kinda
[00:43:45] Jamon Fries:
seems kinda lame to me, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's very lame. I mean, boredom just makes you act out on the things that are already causing that are that you're already dislike.
[00:43:58] Jesse Fries:
If anything, if But it really doesn't even do that.
[00:44:02] Jamon Fries:
But if if you were going to do something because you were bored Right. And you decided that you wanted to go out on the streets with everybody else because, I mean, most most people in a protest, I I I would almost be willing to bet that at least 30 to 40% of them don't even know what they're out there for. They're just out there because a group gathered. Well, right. Right. So I guess that could maybe that's what she's saying, you know, but it's to me, it's I I highly doubt that that's what she's saying. She's trying to I I I would say that she's more likely trying to give an excuse that doesn't involve the policies that are screwing things up.
[00:44:42] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That that's what I'd figure. You you know, it's when when it comes to the rides over there and just everything, you know, people don't like immigration. It's just what it is. It it's, never the the natives never like it, never have, never will. Look at how we treated the Irish and everything like that. It doesn't even necessarily basically every new group that came in. No, exactly. Exactly. We don't it doesn't actually matter the color of your skin or anything like that. It just matters on your new people coming in, and you're strange, and so we don't like the way you do things, because you're not like us, you know, and you're stealing our jobs. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. It's that sort of thing. You know, it's it's why I don't understand why everybody is always so surprised in this day and age. It seems to be like, oh, how how can you hate them? You know? Well, it's normal too. You know? They're different.
[00:45:36] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's it's It absolutely is. Yeah. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it's Even if even if you don't go to that point, it's it's you you know that there's an impact for those people coming. Right. Right. You have to provide housing for them, which means that there's less houses available for the current citizens, so for the people that are currently here. You have to provide food for them, which means that there's less food for the people that are here. There's
[00:46:02] Jesse Fries:
yes. That that that's true in general, but we have a glut of food, so we don't have to really worry about that.
[00:46:08] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. For the most part, yeah. So I would agree with that.
[00:46:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's yeah. I just find it interesting play blaming social media and blaming boredom. It's just
[00:46:23] Jamon Fries:
Well, the the problem the the the reason that they blame social media, and it's it's a very easy thing to blame, is because it actually gives people that wanna say something a place to say it. And then, like, people will see it, then they'll be like, yeah. That's right. We need to stand up against this. Well Yeah. Yeah. So so so so the the riots and stuff like that, it it may build a little bit faster. It may there may be a few people from outside the area coming in to join into it simply because more people know about it. Right. Right. If no if if you didn't have social media, you'd be like, okay. So there's something going on 3 blocks down the road, but, you know, I'm bored and at home so I have no idea what's actually going on down there so I can't go so I'm not gonna go to join in.
Whereas, there's social media, it's like they're, you know, 10 miles away. I agree with them. Let's go. You know? So so it does things can build faster because of Shell's social media, but that's simply because more people are seeing and hearing the same things.
[00:47:32] Jesse Fries:
I I could see that. I could see that. And she also did point out that it's kinda like, you know, how people on social media, they they're they a lot of what they do is they become, overaggressive in their words and everything like that because they're bored. Wow. And and so they'll just troll people. Because they're bored. Well, no. Some of it probably is. Come on. The trolls out there I've been dealing
[00:47:57] Jamon Fries:
I've been dealing with keyboard pirates and trolls since, oh god, since the first time I got into gaming back in Right. It could play it it could be 2000. It could just be that they're all
[00:48:10] Jesse Fries:
just bored, you know, or trying not to be bored. Maybe that's what she's trying to say. We're trying not to be bored. Boredom may play a small part into that, but it, it
[00:48:20] Jamon Fries:
I think it's more the the anonymity. You don't know who you don't you don't actually have to face the person that you're saying these things to. Right. So you're more willing to say stuff that's nasty. I yeah. You know, if you're if you're face to face, there's consequences. Like, you might get hit if you say that.
[00:48:43] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. True. Whereas
[00:48:45] Jamon Fries:
online, there is no consequence.
[00:48:50] Jesse Fries:
I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. If you and a lot of times you might just think that there's no consequences. So it's like some of the Right. Right. Some of the reasons people have been thrown in jail in, the UK it's like, apparently, some of them have said, well, let's go burn down that mosque. You know, it's, like, you you shouldn't do that. That's a threat. You you you know? It's, Yes. Which to me, it's funny that should not make a threat. Exactly. Threats are illegal. This is just the common sense. Yeah. You know, I don't know why you need extra laws for it, but they have all the extra laws over in the UK for it. But you know, a threat is a threat. So if you actually threaten to do something or if you actually say, you need to go do this, you know, if they take it up Right.
[00:49:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah, that's a threat. But, you know, it's Yeah. There's to to me, there's 2 things that you should that you can actually get in trouble for on the Internet. Mhmm. Number 1 is threats. You can absolutely cannot say I'm going to do this to you. I'm going we should do this or something like that because that's that's threat that's a threat. The other thing is is the cyber bullying issue.
[00:49:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[00:49:57] Jamon Fries:
You know, it's you're not actually saying that you're gonna do something to them, but you're still bullying them. No. Yeah. So, you know and I mean, I've I've seen many, many reports about teens that have committed suicide because of because they were bullied online. So I I can completely understand why you would make laws towards that as well. Mhmm. But everything else, I mean, especially here in the US because, you know, we have freedom of speech and everything like that supposedly. Everything else is fair game. Yeah. To me, all of this Yeah. To me, all of this censorship that people do is simply because they don't want to hear that someone else has a different opinion.
[00:50:45] Jesse Fries:
The the I I I agree. I agree. People have, gotten upset at different opinions. And Yeah. To me, that's a it's a huge problem. To me, it's it's like if you don't have free speech, I I really find the society to be to have a major issue. And I think governments Mhmm. If they restrict free speech too much, I think it really could have a detrimental effect for the government as in revolution or protests, riots, things like that. If you restrict positive. If you restrict the steam valve that, freedom of speech is, it doesn't the pressure starts to build and build and build and build. Free speech and jokes and things like this, everything in there actually allows the steam to be vented off before an explosion actually happens within a a society. Yes.
[00:51:43] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with that. The there's, you know, there's a couple of things that concern me with the way people the way people hand talk about things and handle things now. Uh-huh. Number numb like, with the whole Facebook censoring stuff. Right. I've actually never had a problem with Facebook doing that. Uh-huh. Because Facebook is a privately owned organization. Well, they would do it. They have every right to control all the their product. Yes. I mean, so anybody anybody that says we have freedom of speech, so you can't do that to us. As long as it's Facebook alone and not with no government interference, as long as it's Facebook alone saying we don't like this speech on here, I see absolutely no problem with them doing that kind of censorship.
I mean, you should just go to a new another platform if you don't if you don't like that. Mhmm. It's not like Facebook is the only one. They're the predominant one, but they're not the only one. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:52:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I I really don't have a problem with Facebook. I do have a problem with the government, try make it trying to force them to do things, whether or not willingly or not. I think the government should stay out of that sort of thing. Absolutely. Political parties? Sure. Why not? You can go to other people and say, yeah. But as a government, the government should if you're in power, you you shouldn't be able to do that. You know? It's it's not if you're outside of power, yeah, you can go and make your case and see if it's a good case, and then is the wheel of ideas. To me, that's what freedom of speech is, and to have anybody get rid of that or try to stop that really can lead to major problems. Because if there's no information, if the information is being restricted, then people start to come up with all these, conspiracy theories and things like that about why it's happening, this and that. And so just restricting and especially if you're restricting jokes and things like that, it makes people go, why are you restricting that? What is the point of this? Is there something there that is hidden?
Is that why you are don't want us to know? Exactly. Exactly. Especially if it's just, like, jokes and shit like that, you know, because Oh, yeah. Come on. COVID was an extreme thing, and so, of course, you're gonna have jokes. You're gonna have bad jokes. You're gonna have good jokes. You're gonna have, anti COVID jokes. You're gonna have anti vaccine jokes. You're gonna have all these things. You know? Just let it fly, and that is the best medicine. You you you know, and to do otherwise just doesn't make sense.
[00:54:22] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. And I mean, you know, I am I am usually a strict, constitutionalist. I I To me, everything goes by the constitution.
[00:54:32] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:54:33] Jamon Fries:
And in the constitution, it doesn't say that no one in no one in the US can restrict can restrict speech. It specifically says that the government cannot make any laws that restrict speech. Mhmm. Yep. Nope. So, I mean, as long as as long as it's not the you know, I I take that to being the government telling people not to not to allow certain speech on their platforms. I consider that to be a breach of of the freedom of speech as well. It's not technically a law, but they're using the force of the law to to tell them to do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And but but as far as outside of the government, anyone has all has every right to do that. Just like everyone has every business has the right to refuse service to anyone
[00:55:23] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. For any reason.
[00:55:25] Jamon Fries:
Yep. You know, I I keep I keep here I I keep hearing about these, court cases brought up against that cake against the cake maker out in Denver.
[00:55:35] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right. Somewhere in Colorado. Yeah. Colorado. Yeah. Or just because they refuse to make a specific
[00:55:42] Jamon Fries:
cake to celebrate a specific thing that happens to be LGBTQ Uh-huh. They're being taken to court.
[00:55:49] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly.
[00:55:51] Jamon Fries:
It's not a private lawsuit taking them to court, I don't think. I think it's I I believe I mean, I could be mistaken, but I believe that it's actually involving the, the the the prosecutor and stuff like that too. Oh, the state in some cases. So the state is, possibly It's the state bringing it, not not an individual for in a private suit.
[00:56:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it's that's a messy one. I I, Jerry's side, I'm on your side with that generally too. If a business doesn't wanna do business with somebody, that's fine. Yeah. There there's there's always limitations. You know, you you it's like I don't know. It's it's a very tricky one. It's like, would you allow them not to make a cake for, a minority? You you know, like like a racial minority. You know, that's where it kinda gets
[00:56:45] Jamon Fries:
iffy there, on that one. See, I don't I don't think it does. Well, yeah. It doesn't. David, and the reason that I say that is because I truly believe that as a private person doing business, I have the right not to do business with another person. Mhmm. It doesn't matter what my reasoning for it is.
[00:57:07] Jesse Fries:
It it it does because there's the civil rights act and everything like that. So it actually does per the law. I understand your point of view and in a libertarian sort of way, I agree with it in that sort of line, but when it comes to actual law and everything like that, there are restrictions, you because you can't just not do one subset of, group and everything like that. So it's if it comes to religion, though, that that seems to be kind of a more sanctified
[00:57:40] Jamon Fries:
more Unless it's certain religions.
[00:57:43] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. But in this case, his his whole thing is that it's against my religion and so I shouldn't have to do it. That that's his that's his whole reasoning. So with that Yep. It's
[00:57:55] Jamon Fries:
a it's a it's an argument. Wait, wait, wait, Ted. Essentially, you're coming up to 2 protected classes. Religion has always been protected in the US ever since the founding. Right. And the LGBTQ is considered a protected class whereas you can't. There are limitations on what you can on how you can handle things regarding those that that certain group of people. Like, you can't you can't not give them a job because they're LGBTQ. Right. Right. Right. I I can never remember what the rest of the those letters are and stuff, so I always just stop it off at LGBTQ. I know there's a lot more. Know that, but No need to say that. But yeah. Everybody knows what you need. So that's all they're asking. All the time. But Yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. So, I mean, I I know that there's those protections and stuff, but, you know, to me, when it when it's business, just don't take your business there.
Well, you know, there is the house. Right. Ever since ever since the my problem with with everything that's going on is that ever since the first lawsuit was was went went up and was turned in was, and and the the owner of the cake shop won it, Ever since then, there have been people that specifically go there to get these cakes knowing that he won't make them so that they can file a lawsuit.
[00:59:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that's how the courts work. To me, that's the biggest problem. I think it's funny. I think it's funny. If you're gonna stand on the principle, you're gonna have to deal with the the repercussions of that principle. Plain and simple. It's funny to us sitting here, but I highly doubt that it would be pleasurable if it happened to us. Well, he can always go out of business. That's his choice. If he wants to deal with that and stay in business or not, you know, that's also his choice. You know, there there's it cuts both ways, you know? Oh, it really does. He doesn't have to stay in business and deal with that crap, you know, he really doesn't. Yep. You know, so he doesn't necessarily have a right to do business, you know, if people aren't willing. So, you know, there's it cuts both ways on that one. So but okay. So onto a different constitutional matter.
I'm sharing the screen. Do you see that? Yeah. I see that. Okay. So so yeah. So, basically, there's this whole thing, where Hawaii had to allow more weapons to be, used openly and everything like that, due to the Supreme Court.
[01:00:30] Jamon Fries:
Right.
[01:00:32] Jesse Fries:
And so because of that, Hawaii has had to change a lot of their laws. And apparently it's even getting involved in like halberds and spears and swords and whatnot. Do you see these pictures that I'm showing you? Yeah. It's like I do. Look at this samurai sword right there. You know, it's like so these jackasses are just walking around with with these things because they wanna make a point. I I think the point is that they're overweight and out of shape is my what I'm thinking, but you know, it's Oh, yeah. Well, they're they're overweight, they're out of shape, and they're obviously
[01:01:07] Jamon Fries:
big nerds. They're freaking LARPercy. To to be able to find that that that Halberd, you know? Right? That that's like major geeked out. I know. Look at this. Yeah. It it's
[01:01:18] Jesse Fries:
it the the the these people are LARPers. That that that that's nothing against LARPing, but it just is
[01:01:27] Jamon Fries:
it's hilarious. And, you know, I mean, it's the the this I have some issues with that.
[01:01:35] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:01:37] Jamon Fries:
Firearm firearms are not illegal are not illegal to own in most states of the US. But if I were to take a, if I were to take, like, a broadsword and carry it around Mhmm. I would be stopped by the police and questioned about it because it's not I I think that there's actually laws against carrying swords.
[01:02:04] Jesse Fries:
Well, in certain jurisdictions, there are. But see, that's the thing. It's they've actually made it so that the Hawaii the way they phrased it in their laws that they had to change is that, basically, you just can carry a weapon. So these
[01:02:21] Jamon Fries:
so these Oh, man. It's like I would I would definitely be walking around with a with a flail, man. I would be walking around with a flail every day. But, you you know, so it's like it's like some of these pictures are these these guys
[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:
walking around with unsheathed swords. You know, there have always been cities where you have to keep your sword in your whole in in the sheath, you have to. Yeah. Your your gun has to be holstered. Exactly.
[01:02:48] Jamon Fries:
You you can never you can't it's it's always no matter no matter what the laws are, it's always illegal to walk around town with the pistol in your hand.
[01:02:59] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:03:00] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. The same thing. With the same thing.
[01:03:02] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah. So I I So if you're if you're gonna carry swords around, they they better be in a sheath as far as I'm concerned. Yep. But yes. Apparently, the cops were sitting there talking to these guys and whatnot because Yeah. Yeah. So that's,
[01:03:18] Jamon Fries:
yeah, that's different. Well, the the other the other thing that I've the other thing that I see concerned there is the fact that it's a group of people walking around. You know, if it was just individuals walking around with their swords and stuff like that Right. I wouldn't see too much of a problem, you know, as long as, like I said, it was sheathed, You know, whether it's on the back or on the hip or whatever. Well, but right. But When you get a large group like that that's carrying weapons openly that are not sheathed or, you know, in the case of the Halberd, well, there's really no way nothing you can do with the Halberd to make it non lethal, you know. So but when you have a large group of people that are walking around like that to just a normal person, if I saw people like that, I would be steering clear as far as I could. Actually, apparently, because you have no idea what they're gonna do with those. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, though, it it's
[01:04:12] Jesse Fries:
nobody cared.
[01:04:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because well, look at these guys. So, you you know what I mean? You know, I I myself might have to be concerned because I weigh more than any of them do. Right. Right. Right. For a normal sized person, I'm sorry. All you gotta do is walk fast and you're getting away from it. No. Yeah. It's it's just
[01:04:34] Jesse Fries:
plus, you know, it was kind of like a protest is what they were doing. So I could see legally wise, it's they're demonstrating. There's a demonstration as a protest. So, you know, that falls also in freedom of speech. Yes. And so I I yeah. So I don't have a problem with that, but, yeah, I I just thought that was hilarious. Protesting. What are they protesting though? Well, they're just they're they're they're it's a demonstration. It's a demonstration. It's not necessarily a protest. It's a demonstration. It's, they're saying we can do this. We have the right to do this. So we're demonstrating our right to do this is basically what they're doing. Okay. It's asinine in my book, but, you know, I just thought it was hilarious. Especially, I had read the article, but I hadn't seen the pictures, that I saw the pictures. And I'm just, like, dying here. You know? It's
[01:05:22] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's Yeah. It's it is. It is pretty just the pictures are definitely hilarious. Yeah. They really are, we consider it. As far as I'm concerned, damn it. If you're gonna be wearing if you're gonna be carrying those kinds of weapons up around, at least dress the period, man.
[01:05:40] Jesse Fries:
Right? Exactly.
[01:05:42] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. You you know, it's Modern clothes kinda carrying around a halberd. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't look right.
[01:05:50] Jesse Fries:
It really doesn't. It really doesn't. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think, that that'll probably we've covered pretty much everything. So I just wanna let everybody know. Have anything else to say. Cool. Cool. So, basically, with the way this, we're gonna make money on this is value for value. So if you found this to be this podcast to be entertaining, or if you got anything out of it, please donate to us. Whatever you want, it'll be on our website, and it will also be through whatever podcast app that you have. You can just click the donate button there, and you can, donate whatever amount you wanna give us, whatever this was worth to you. Was it worth $1,000 to you? Send us $1,000.
Was it worth, $3? Send us the $3. No matter what you send us, we will be happy with what you send us. This is a value for value system. It was, first, done by, no agenda podcast and which I think is a great podcast. You should go listen to them as well if you want to. But please just give us what you think this was worth, and, we will see you next time. You have anything to add there, Jamon?
[01:07:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, I would just say thank you everyone for putting up with us. I mean, you know, this is our this is the first time we've done this and, you know, if if you think that it's worth a penny and wanna give us a penny, I'd even take that. You know, Even that is good reinforcement as to, hey, at least you found some value in what we're doing. No. Definitely. Definitely.
[01:07:26] Jesse Fries:
Cool. Well, thank you everybody, and thank you for listening to the mindless meanderings. I am, Jesse Friese and, my co host I'm Jamin. There you go. And, we will see you next time.
Introduction and Podcast Overview
Technology and Politics: Zuckerberg
Elon Musk's Alleged UFO Fighter Jet
SpaceX and Boeing Spacesuit Compatibility Issues
Health and Diet: The Ozempic Controversy
Social Media and Public Behavior
Freedom of Speech and Censorship
Constitutional Matters: Business Rights and Discrimination
Hawaii's Weapon Laws and Public Demonstrations
Conclusion and Value for Value Model
