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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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[00:00:20] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon, everybody.   It is   Monday and November the seventeenth, and we are live with episode 80 of the minus meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries, and,   yeah, I am gonna get my passport back real quick. I just did it not too long ago, and then right after shutdown ended, I was able to   get a email saying it's coming this week. So that's good. Nice.  

[00:00:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's pretty quick. It is. And I and I'm Jamin Friess, and   I am trying to find   a bank that'll give me a loan on an f an FHA loan. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. Yeah. Ran ran into some problems.   The,   the banks that I know and use regularly, they,   a, they don't I'm looking at buying a manufactured home, and they do don't do loans on single wide manufactured homes, only double wide.   Oh.   And   it has to already be on the property on a foundation. It cannot be in a   sales lot, be it to be bought and then delivered.  

[00:01:32] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So, yeah, just need   some ways around that then. Okay. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:01:39] Jamon Fries:

I I did find a a really small it's 28 foot by 26 foot double wide. So, I mean, that technically fits their,   what what they want.  

[00:01:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Exactly. You you just go by the letter of the law. That's Yeah. Just just the little tiny one bedroom.  

[00:01:55] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm.   I know. 80,000 for it where I can buy the same one bedroom for 50,000 if I go manufacture in a single wide. Yeah. Yeah. Well,  

[00:02:06] Jesse Fries:

who knows? Good luck with that. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah.   Well, looks like Epstein's still in the storyline. I swear to God, this guy won't die. You know, it it's like I know. We all know he didn't hang himself.   But   come on. You know, this this story, it's no. Some of the memes, especially about Trump blowing,   Bill Clinton and whatnot are quite funny.   But Yeah. Yeah.   But beyond that, it's like, good.   Yeah. I'm just and it looks seems like Trump is done with it too.  

[00:02:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Trump just finally  

[00:02:42] Jesse Fries:

just finally said, basically, you know what? Fuck it. You guys, all you wanna talk about is so let's just get it the hell out of the way. Yeah. No. He should've done that long time ago. Really, he should've. It's Yeah. Yeah. No. The whole thing is just a joke, really. It's just this it's just punching bag back and forth, you know, with its Yeah.  

[00:03:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Nobody actually wants it released except the people who want it to who think it'll affect the other party more. Well, the American people want it released. Well, yes. Yeah. But as far as politicians,   though, Democrats   definitely didn't want it released, or it would have been released a long time ago. Yep. Yep. Republicans definitely don't want it released, or it would have been released a long time ago. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's it's like that whole thing where they were saying, oh,  

[00:03:28] Jesse Fries:

the speaker of the house, he's not letting he's not swearing in this Democrat from Arizona because she's gonna   vote so that they can vote to release everything.   And it's, like, then once they got it there, they didn't wanna just do unanimous consent.  

[00:03:45] Jamon Fries:

You know, it's like,  

[00:03:47] Jesse Fries:

it's   such a joke. It's all pure crap. There's no   yeah. No. It's just pure crap. And, you know, it's like that whole,   Trump giving,   Bill Clinton a blowjob or Bubba since it's Bubba.   Maybe a horse. Maybe Bill Clinton a whore a horse or whatnot. I don't know. But either way,   he   he   this is with his brother. Him and his brother   were joking back and forth in email, you know. It's like   that that that's basically what, his brother said, Mark Epstein. That's what he said. It's just this is two brothers talking.   To me, when when you say this is two brothers talking, that means it's all Polish shit. Of it. Yeah. Exactly.   They're just having fun, you know. That's all it is, you know. So it's   yeah. I don't I don't get it. It it it just doesn't make any sense to me. It's like, okay. After after all, that is what this show is. You know, it's just two brothers talking and Exactly.  



[00:04:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, while while we do real read stories out, but anything that we say about those stories, I mean, you know, take it with a grain of salt.  

[00:04:55] Jesse Fries:

I don't know what you're talking about, Jimmy. I have no clue.   But, yeah, it's just   the memes are funny. I'll I'll give you the memes are funny and everything like that. But, you know, in the end all be all, it's like, does it even matter if Trump  

[00:05:11] Jamon Fries:

blew a guy? You know? I I I don't I I thought that wasn't supposed to be a thing nowadays. You know? Yeah. I I I always thought the left was very strong about making it about that not being important.  

[00:05:23] Jesse Fries:

I know. But, you you know, the horrible thing about this is that it put that picture in my mind, and I do not like that picture. No. You know? No. That that is a horrible picture.   Funny. But   it is a horrible picture.  

[00:05:39] Jamon Fries:

And you had to bring that story in to put it into my mind. Well, there you go. Of course, you gotta share the misery. But I have to share the misery. I have to share the misery. So, yeah, it's  

[00:05:49] Jesse Fries:

it it's basically what everybody's talking about out there anyways, you know. So it's,   Yeah. No. I I I   it's just a bunch of it's a as with everything, it's like, oh, we got the smoking gun. No smoking gun. We have a smoking gun. No smoking gun. You know, it's like   Yeah. That that's how it is all the time with all this stuff. You know, it was like with the Trump stuff. You know? They go, we have a smoking gun to prove Trump did the blah blah blah. He go, where's the smoking gun?   You know, it's the same thing. You know? He colluded with Russia. Where's the smoking  

[00:06:21] Jamon Fries:

gun? It it's it's like that in all politics. I mean, it and it's not it's not just the left that although they do it a lot more.   The right seems to   have find it a little bit more important to be able   to prove that something actually happened.  

[00:06:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But late take it to court at least. Well, right now, things are with what they're doing, like, this is Things are kinda weird right now. Yeah. Yeah. Generally, but with the Trump,   yeah. It's a bit Yeah. It's a bit odd, you know. So Yep.   But yeah. Absolutely.   Let's see. Trump has cut tariffs on beef, coffee, and other foods, because those prices were going crazy.   Yep.   So there you go.   Yeah. Hopefully, beef break because beef rice has got stupid.  

[00:07:12] Jamon Fries:

It was just I'm like going They've been stupid for so long now.  

[00:07:17] Jesse Fries:

But no. They were getting more stupid because I used to get beef for cheap. Like, cheap. I was able to get, like,   96   ground beef for, like, $7. Now it's up to $10.  

[00:07:30] Jamon Fries:

Oh, damn. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. It it here, it was costing me about   $6.50   for $80.20.  

[00:07:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Kansas sucks when it comes to beef brisket. Yeah. It really does.  

[00:07:46] Jamon Fries:

You know, I mean, so it it although I I don't think the prices have changed too much here. Although, I haven't bought  

[00:07:53] Jesse Fries:

beef in so long, I really haven't really checked Yeah. No. This is just recently. So, like, within the last three months or something like that. So if you haven't bought recently, you probably haven't seen it. No. No. Recently, I've only been buying pork and chicken.   Yeah. So   which are still low. I think chicken has come up a bit, though.  

[00:08:11] Jamon Fries:

A little bit. Yes. Not not a whole lot   Mhmm. But a few cents per pound at least. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:08:19] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. So, hopefully, this will allow prices to come back down and everything like that. Yeah. Hopefully.   Big news, though, that's really gonna mess with a whole bunch of people. Apparently, in the   continuing resolution   Mhmm. It wasn't as clean as they say it was.   Well, it never is. So so in that, apparently,   there was   there was this loophole that so a while ago, they made it so that you could,   produce hemp, right, and hemp based products. Right? Right.   And they   in that, they kept, like, the THC level or something like that at, like, point 3%   or something like that. Okay.  

But a lot of these companies started using that loophole   to use that point three THC level to refine it, whatnot, and then to make gummies and everything.   And And so this is how you were able to get, like, THC gummies and whatnot   into states where it's illegal, like Texas.  

[00:09:21] Jamon Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[00:09:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Because the feds had this one   thing and everything like that. And it became huge business. They were creating this e even here in Texas, everything like that.   And, apparently, they've closed that loophole.   So Well, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. So, basically because all it was supposed to be was for, like, ropes, textiles, and for the seed.   Well, they took that and ran with it beyond   comprehension.   Mhmm. And so yeah. Now that has been paired back. Apparently, Mitch McConnell wanted it, because he Mitch McConnell was the one that wanted the hemp   to be able to be used.  

Okay.   But then that loophole made things go crazy. And so he goes, that's gone crazy. And so they allowed him quickly just to pass it through and go, okay. Yeah.   That was a mistake. Let's close that loophole sort of thing. So   Well, that's good. That's good. But now a lot of these things are gonna be illegal.  

[00:10:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   So So those, t   t THC gummies are gonna go away in a lot of places.  

[00:10:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And drinks and everything like that. Yeah. It's,   those go away, which, you know Really, they should just I'm good with that. Yeah. Yeah. If it's illegal, it's illegal. You know? Yeah.   Yep. Yep. I I I have no problem with it, you know, if you're gonna make it. THC is not as, harmless as people say. So Oh, absolutely not. No. No.   But more and more studies come out that just show just how bad it really can be. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You you you know, for, like, cancer or whatnot, if it does help, fine. Whatever. I don't care.   Yeah. But beyond that,   unless if you're terminal, I don't think   it's really needed. So   it's   yeah. That's how I think. But I don't care either way. To me to me, it's one of those things. It's like,  

[00:11:17] Jamon Fries:

you know, at a certain point,   if you're a terminal patient,   all the shit that's banned because it's bad for you Uh-huh. You should just be able to do.  

[00:11:30] Jesse Fries:

Well, just do it anyways even if it's illegal. It's like, what do you get due to me?  

[00:11:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Gonna throw me in jail for the next year and a half that I'm gonna be alive? Exactly. That that that's when I'll try cocaine and try meth Yeah. Absolutely. And all that. But Absolutely. Yeah.  

[00:11:47] Jesse Fries:

Even though I hate the feeling of too much caffeine, so I don't know why I'd wanna do any of those. But, you know, it's   a  

[00:11:54] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Yeah. I'm right I'm right there with you.  

[00:11:58] Jesse Fries:

Oh, let's see here. Good news out of California.   Yeah. They are actually revoking   17,017   commercial driver's licenses given to immigrants.   Nice.   Yeah. 17,000,   dude. That that's pretty awesome.  

[00:12:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I I think so. And now now Make the road safe again. And and   absolutely. But now the story that I had lost and refound   Uh-huh. Comes into play.   A federal judge slammed the brakes on Trump's administration   rule limiting commercial driver's license to immigrants.  

[00:12:38] Jesse Fries:

I swear to god.  

[00:12:40] Jamon Fries:

A federal judge ruled that they that the federal government   cannot   determine   who can get a CDL and who can't.  

[00:12:51] Jesse Fries:

They can't base due to interstate   commerce.  

[00:12:55] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. It's the federal government that puts those regulations out there. That is why these the CDL tests, the CDL requirements,   the DOT safety, and everything else like that Uh-huh. Those are federal   regulation   rules.   Right. Right. It has nothing to do with the states themselves.   Yeah. No. It's in It's one interstate commerce. In the purview of the of the administration.  

[00:13:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That that that's one thing about the federal government. It's like that is one of their key roles that   everybody   will agree is one of their key roles   is interstate commerce.  

[00:13:34] Jamon Fries:

Yes. But now a federal district court judge has says, no. You can't do that.  

[00:13:42] Jesse Fries:

Sure. Sure. That'll be struck down real quick. That's I know. But I I just oh my god.  

[00:13:48] Jamon Fries:

Anything that Trump does is going to be told he can't be done by the federal by the courts now. I'm surprised the courts haven't dissolved The United States by now. You know? I know. It's it's just  

[00:14:02] Jesse Fries:

it's it's kinda ridiculous. It's like, come on, people. Don't don't you think about long term effects? Don't you think about any of these things? You know, it's like Well, of course, they don't.   Yeah. No. See, that's a stupid thing. It's like, you have to look at the long term thing. It's like, when the Supreme Court makes a decision, it has to go, do we want other presidents to   be curtailed or to have the power of this?   Yeah. It is not about the one president. You know? It's it's It never is. It never should be. No. If it is, then you are   myopic, and you need a different job, plain and simple.  



[00:14:40] Jamon Fries:

And and it's not just the courts. It it even happens in politics, you know, the,   House rules and stuff like that, Senate rules and stuff where   because   this group   is is weak. All of a sudden, they're gonna pass all this stuff saying, we can do this. We can do this. We can do this. Mhmm. But then the other group gains power, and they start complaining about the shit that they can do because they passed it.  

[00:15:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No.   It's   it's like if you get rid of the filibuster as we want it to here in the show,   then,   yeah, you're gonna have issues in the future that where you go, I, oh, I wish we had the filibuster. But, you know, that's you just have to live with it. You know? And   I   yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Mhmm.   Okay. Let's see here.   Looks like we didn't really have that much.   No. There wasn't much not as much in politics. No. Not at all. It looks like more stories in politics. Fun stories in politics, actually. Yeah.   Well, apparently so the the the headline is top MIT scientist   blast   climate hysteria saying it's about money.  

You you you know, it's like, yes. Fine and dandy. Yes. He he goes on to say, c o two is not a problem at all. Mhmm.   You you can double you could double the amount that we have in the atmosphere right now, and it would just go up maybe, like, half a degree Celsius or something like that, which would be completely fine. We'd have no problem.   Same thing Bill Gates has said now and everything like that. Yeah. But it's funny. So so so this guy, he is,   what's his title? Professor   Emeritus,   at the at MIT. So you know what that means. Right? No. I don't. He's retired.   Ah, yes. Emeritus means, oh, you've been here for so long   that, you you can we'll give you an office   at MIT, and you'll just sit there   and pontificate.  

That that that's all it is. Oh, okay. Okay. So whenever you see Emeritus he gets to hold the title of professor even though he no longer is. Correct. Correct. He's basically an old retired dude. Nothing against him or anything like that. Right. But now because he's Emeritus, maybe he goes, well, I don't have to try to get money from the government. Yeah. Now now that he's retired, he doesn't have to limit what he says. Yeah. Yeah. So now he's coming back going, oh, it's a hoax, people.  

[00:17:11] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:17:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. People   get over it. We have to get off the c o two thing. All that it's been doing is   making other people money, making Al Gore rich. You know, that's all it's been doing. And it's been driving the freaking   Europeans insane. Come on. Let's save the Europeans from themselves because   they're just insane over there. I swear they're going bonkers. They're shutting everything down. They're going back to the stone age just so they can   be carbon neutral.   You know? It's a a Yeah.  

[00:17:43] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. Yeah. It it's it really is just insane.   And, you know, I mean,   I have known   from   way back at the very beginning of the first story that I ever heard about climate change, way Uh-huh. When I was just getting out of high school.   I knew that it was all bullshit when Algo with what Algo was was saying. Oh, yeah.   And that was because they had to come up with an excuse   as to why the findings were different than what they said it would have been.   Yeah. So so they did ice core samples.   And they found in the ice core samples that   all the gases and stuff that were trapped,   the carbon dioxide   started increasing   after signs of warming.  

Mhmm.   So then they came out and said, well, carbon dioxide, unlike all those other gases,   can permeate through the ice and move upwards.   Therefore,   it just shows that the carbon dioxide   actually started changing   before the warming.  

[00:19:00] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[00:19:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. How much bullshit do you expect people to believe? Because if that were true, if if carbon dioxide permeated through the ice,   there wouldn't be any carbon dioxide in the ice at all because it all would have permeated out.  

[00:19:17] Jesse Fries:

True. True.  

[00:19:19] Jamon Fries:

Because that's just layer upon layer of buildup.   Yep.   Yep. So yeah. No. I I called bullshit long time ago, and I've always called bullshit since.  

[00:19:30] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Same here.   I I'm right with you on that one. It's   yeah. And and now they're saying that maybe a new ice age is coming.   Have you heard that one?   Well, I mean, that that isn't that surprising. I mean, that we are in the cycle of going into an ice age right now. So Well, they're they're they're saying that the global warming will cause the ice age is what they're saying. Oh, god. You you know, the the day after tomorrow,   whole Yeah. You know, that that whole Mhmm.   I I I watched that movie many, many times because I love disaster movies because they are some of the it's my guilty pleasure in life, disaster movies.   It was horrible. Horrible storyline. Horrible everything. But I love disaster movies. But yeah. So it's that whole shtick of how it'll cut off the the Gulf Stream and blah blah blah and Oh my god.  



[00:20:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So So in other words, what because if I remember correctly, that story came out of China.  

[00:20:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It well, it was, it was Chinese and American scientists.  

[00:20:33] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Which means that China finally   saw that movie.  

[00:20:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep.  

[00:20:41] Jamon Fries:

That movie finally made it to China, and they're like, oh my god. No.  

[00:20:46] Jesse Fries:

Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. It's   but, yeah, it it's all a bunch of crap is what it is. It's it's just  

[00:20:56] Jamon Fries:

yeah.  

[00:20:58] Jesse Fries:

Yep. We're gonna be fine people. Don't worry.  

[00:21:01] Jamon Fries:

Don't worry. Absolutely. Yes.   And on that being fine statement  

[00:21:07] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:21:09] Jamon Fries:

There was a new   you know, I I hate not putting these in study in the studies group, but this isn't really a freaking study. This is just looking at data. Right. It's not a study.   Foreign student enrollment in The US is down to the lowest numbers in a decade. They saw about a 17%   decline.  

[00:21:29] Jesse Fries:

Imagine that.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Okay.  

[00:21:34] Jamon Fries:

So how is that a why is that a freaking study, though?   I mean  

[00:21:39] Jesse Fries:

because they looked at numbers, you know, it's about it. Yeah. But, you know, you But yeah. It's like I I'm like, okay. Probably because of Trump. Because people hate Trump. Like, I don't care. I mean Yeah. Absolutely. And and but, I mean, is that really a bad thing?   Overall, I don't think so. You know? It's,  

[00:21:59] Jamon Fries:

It doesn't affect us.  

[00:22:03] Jesse Fries:

Well, their money, a lot of them, they pay full price at college. No. I I So for colleges, it it means something. But yeah. I I know that. But I mean,  

[00:22:12] Jamon Fries:

you know, colleges are so freaking expensive anyways. I mean Oh, yeah. Yeah.   They already get way too much money for what they provide. So Mhmm. Yeah.  

[00:22:26] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep. Yep.  

[00:22:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That was the only national news I could find. No. I understand. I understand.   There isn't much that happened in The US. There really isn't.  

[00:22:40] Jesse Fries:

I I guess we could talk about Ukraine here. So, you know, there's a Yes. Lots of interesting stuff in Ukraine. Yeah.   I just checked   the latest,   battle lines, and Russia is still gaining. Just saying. Mhmm. I found a website that tracks battle movements, by the way. Oh, nice. Yeah. It's kinda cool. What is it? What is it? Let me see. I saw an article. I didn't read it because it kind of was passing by, but it said something about they started using mopeds.   I don't doubt it. I don't doubt. Wait, deepstatemap.live.   Okay. If we go there,   yeah. It, shows the battle maps,   and it will show even directions of what's going on and everything like that.  



[00:23:26] Jamon Fries:

Nice.  

[00:23:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Yeah. Anyways yeah. And so   beyond that, there's a corruption in Ukraine. Can you believe that?   Gee. That's the first time I've ever heard that. Yeah. Yeah. Hundreds of millions of dollars have gone into the pockets of our money, by the way, have gone into the pockets of Ukrainian officials.   So look at that. They were always known as one of the most corrupt people on the planet, and they're still showing it to this day.   Congratulations.   I  

[00:24:02] Jamon Fries:

I heard I've read a story how they've   basically  

[00:24:06] Jesse Fries:

almost drained the energy front dry with take Yeah. Taking money out of it. Yeah. Yeah. They they they may actually do have done better if they weren't just   stealing from their own people. It's possible. Yeah.   Maybe they could actually afford more equipment, something like that. But, you know, who cares about that? They let's get rich. Fuck the people. Let's get rich. You know? That that's,   generally how it goes.  

[00:24:32] Jamon Fries:

I I've heard that,   well, I read somewhere that the Ukrainian people  

[00:24:37] Jesse Fries:

have basically decided to stop fighting the war because of the shit that's going on now. Yeah. No. People are leaving. Everybody's just Oh, yeah. They're done with this shit. It's just a money grab. It's a money power grab,   money by the people of, by the leaders in Ukraine and a power grab by Europe.   Yep. That's all it is.   Here's all it is. It is truly pathetic.   And Yep.   All   so all this war is   killing   hundreds of thousands, millions, maybe, I don't know, of,   men.  

[00:25:14] Jamon Fries:

It's very possible we've hit a million, and it's military aged men for the most part. Well, except in Ukraine.  

[00:25:21] Jesse Fries:

Well, I mean, well, they're already gone. So Well, no. No. They're not. Did you know that the the the there's no draft until you're, like, 28, dude. Something like that. Serious? Yeah.   Military age men, there's, like, 27   year olds are still there. Like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me double check them. I I I can't I think that's the age. Let me double check.   25.   Okay.  

[00:25:54] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Wow.  

[00:25:58] Jesse Fries:

Isn't that crazy? It used to be '27. Crazy. Yeah. Actually, it was '27 before.   Okay.   Yeah.  

[00:26:06] Jamon Fries:

Then they needed some more soldiers, so they bumped it down to 25.  

[00:26:09] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. You can join at eighteen if you want. Right.   But   the draft is '20 was '27. And it just it just shifted, like, very recently.  

[00:26:20] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:26:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Isn't that odd?  

[00:26:25] Jamon Fries:

That is very odd. Yeah. Yeah. That is, like, a huge By the time you by the time you're getting close to 30, I mean, you're no longer in your prime. You're not moving as quick as you were in the past. Well, not only that, you you're not in your  

[00:26:36] Jesse Fries:

prime brainwashing   age.   Yeah. No. Absolutely not. You you you know, it's like the beauty of, like,   a 18 year old to, like, a and young twenties is   that their brain is   malleable. You can actually  

[00:26:52] Jamon Fries:

Yes.  

[00:26:52] Jesse Fries:

Teach them what to do that you want and everything like that. You can make them anything you want by the especially in the military. This is how it works. Boot camp is just mental.   They they they it's brainwashed,   basically.   Yeah. And so, basically, that's why you want those young men. Once you hit 25, your brain is pretty static.   It's just right there. It's not gonna change. It really is. Yeah.  

[00:27:17] Jamon Fries:

And so to actually Another reason another reason that that that it's better to   bring them in at 18   is because they have just left their parents' houses, so they don't have their own   life set up and and working. Yep.   Right? You know, you they're not they're not in the middle of their career trying to improve their lives. Instead, they're at the very beginning. So it's much easier to for them to adapt into a military lifestyle.  

[00:27:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Completely. They they there's many but yeah. 25 now. He was 27. So Wow.   Damn.   That's insane. So, technically, there's probably probably still quite a few,   younger. Oh, yeah.   Yeah. But yeah. It's it's all stupid. They they they need to end that.   And, apparently, Belgium,   is,   tired of it as well.   So   the EU wanted to,   give 200,000,000,000,   to Ukraine as a lifeline. Okay.   But the Belgians are   objecting to the plan. They're going,   why? Because this this 200,000,000,000, it'd be the one where they steal the Russian money   Oh, yeah. And then give it,   to Ukraine.  

And Belgium's going, this is gonna cause too many problems, people. And all that corruption  

[00:28:39] Jamon Fries:

all that corruption, and it's just gonna cause way too much problems. Okay. So what you're telling me is that you you want to illegally   take Russia's money Yep. Yep.   Send it over to Ukraine where you know   at least 80% of it is just going to ends up end up in the pockets of the top 10 people in the country. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No. It makes absolutely no sense to do that. It makes absolutely no sense.  

[00:29:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And   and it it international law says it's illegal to do that. You know, they but but then, of course, who cares? You know? Nobody seems to care about it. It's funny. International   law means something unless until it doesn't. You know? Yeah.   Until it doesn't work for you. They they they just like, oh, no. Fuck that. You know? It's   Yep.  

[00:29:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They see. You should be it.   That that's the problem with international law is that it's only international law if you agree that it's the international law.  

[00:29:40] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.  

[00:29:42] Jamon Fries:

I mean, you you know, if if you're a signatory onto the international court system, then  

[00:29:49] Jesse Fries:

you have to at least adhere to it somewhat. Well, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, how they always love to say, oh, it's a rules based system and everything like that. Right? Yeah. But ever notice that where they never say it's a law based system?   Of course. And so it's a it's the rules that The US has set up.   That's Yep. And they go, we want a rules based system. Yeah. The ones that you set up. You know, that's all you want. Yeah. It's   Yeah. Absolutely.   Should we   keep with   Europe?  

[00:30:20] Jamon Fries:

Might as well, I guess. We can do that.  

[00:30:22] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Looks like Germany,   they are really upping their military.   Okay. They have when Trump said you guys need to do better,   they are actually doing better. So Good. Good. Is that good? This is Germany we're talking about.  

[00:30:42] Jamon Fries:

The the problem is is that no matter which country does it Uh-huh. It could go bad.   No. Yeah. Yeah. Especially since almost all of those European countries have gotten   so   socialist.  

[00:31:00] Jesse Fries:

Well, I I I would it would be I'd be easy for any of them to go bad. Well, I I don't I don't worry about their that sort of system, their economic system. I really don't care about that sort of thing. Yeah. It's just   Europeans, they when when they get powerful, they like to go on a mad rush around Europe. You know, France did it with the Napoleon,   and then Germany did it with Hitler and whatnot. You know, it's just   yeah. It's pure craziness. But, yeah, they're stepping up. Apparently,  

[00:31:31] Jamon Fries:

Of course not. France  

[00:31:32] Jesse Fries:

is trying to still stay relevant. But,   yeah.   Poland though is really going hardcore just as much as Germany. So Mhmm.   Poland, they're always the battlefield in between Russia and Germany. So Yeah. They wanna try to keep everybody away. So it makes sense. Yep.  

[00:31:52] Jamon Fries:

What's that? You're building up your army? Fuck. We gotta spend quite as much as you.  

[00:31:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Just to keep everybody away. Yeah. Yep.   Poor Poland. They've had a rough history. Yeah.   Let's see here.   So, yeah, there's that. And then Also in the EU.  

[00:32:12] Jamon Fries:

The police have taken down three major cybercrime   operations.  

[00:32:16] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:32:19] Jamon Fries:

The,   they they   say that they've arrested   one of the,   the main suspects   of behind Venom Rat,   which Whatever. Was a Trojan horse.   But they've also,   they've they've also taken down over a thousand   servers   that were part of,   Elysium,   the botnet,   and something called   Redmanthus.   No clue on any of those. Yeah. I I'm not sure what those it's a info stealing malware, I think.  

[00:32:58] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[00:32:59] Jamon Fries:

So yeah. But they they,   Europol has   has started hammering down hard. The the headline is police take down three three cybercrime operations   in the latest round of whack a mole.  

[00:33:14] Jesse Fries:

Perfect. Perfect. Yeah.  

[00:33:17] Jamon Fries:

Which just means that three more are gonna pop up.  

[00:33:20] Jesse Fries:

Seriously.   Seriously.   They   yep.   You take one down, another one pops up. It's Yeah.   Yep. Well,   it looks like,   EU's regulations are kinda getting a bit ridiculous,  

[00:33:36] Jamon Fries:

but we knew that. Right? So Oh, I mean, yeah.  

[00:33:39] Jesse Fries:

That's nothing new. You know, some of them were good and everything like that. Apparently Right. One of the EU regulations was that you couldn't if   if a patty   was veggie based, you could not call it a burger.   Oh, thank god. Per law, dude. Law.   Yikes.   But this also means no problem with that.   But this also means that   a steak   has to   be meat. Okay?   Right. Well, that sounds good, but, you know, the like a tuna steak,   or things like that. You can't even do that because that's fish. That's not meat.  

[00:34:17] Jamon Fries:

But fish is meat.  

[00:34:20] Jesse Fries:

By definition, it is not, Jamin. By definition.   Yeah. Why do you think some vegetarians eat fish  

[00:34:26] Jamon Fries:

or eat chicken? Because they're stupid. They're not good vegetarians.   Meat,   as far as I know, the definition of meat   is muscle.  

[00:34:38] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:34:40] Jamon Fries:

That's what fish is. It's muscle.   Yep. Yep.   So to me, meat includes fish.  

[00:34:47] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Also, fillet. Fillet cannot be used for fish.  

[00:34:51] Jamon Fries:

Fillet. Wait. What? Yeah. That that's where that's where fillet came from, isn't it?  

[00:34:58] Jesse Fries:

I'm not sure exactly where it came from, but it it is used you filet a fish. You you you there's there's McDonald's of filet o fish.   Yes.   That is  

[00:35:09] Jamon Fries:

the definition   of preparing the fish in a manner that removes the bones. Yep. Yep. Yeah. But apparently   Jesus Christ. Okay. That's going a little too far. Alright. See, I told you.  

[00:35:26] Jesse Fries:

It's like it's like a war on words. You know? It's just Yeah.   Yeah. I   To to me, I don't even see a problem with calling something of, like, a veggie burger. Just put veggie in front of it, mushroom burger. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,   I know what it is then because it's veggie.   Right. And to me, a burger   to me, yeah, it should be like a hamburger, you know? But   if you grind up the meat, that to me, that's the one thing it has to be is ground up meat. Yes.   It can't be a a   because the British always love to call, like, chicken sandwiches. They always love to call those a chicken burger.   Yeah.  

And I've had other people even here in The States call, oh, come over for burgers, and we go there and it's a freaking chicken.   And you're just like That's not right. It's it's it's a chicken breast. Maybe if you grind it up. I've always said if maybe it's, like, ground chicken meat.  

[00:36:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I could see. I I could see how you could call it a burger. But beyond that Because because yes. A burger is ground meat formed into a patty.  

[00:36:32] Jesse Fries:

Yes. It's a chicken breast is not formed into a patty. Exactly. And a hamburger, just the meat itself comes from Hamburg, of course, Germany,   and that was ground steak.  

[00:36:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:36:45] Jesse Fries:

So you have to grind it. Otherwise Yep. In my book,   it can't be. Apparently, the British think that if it's on a bun, it's a burger. That's their philosophy. Yeah. Which is, like, how does that make any sense? So is a hot dog a burger then?   See, that's   hot dog is always a tough thing. Where do you place a hot dog in the spectrum of food?   You know? Is it a sandwich?   I   not really.  

[00:37:13] Jamon Fries:

Yes and no?   It is sandwiched between two pieces of bread, but they're usually connected at the bottom. So But then sometimes hoagies are too.  

[00:37:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And hoagies are a sandwich. Okay. I am for a hot dog as a sandwich. I I I I wasn't before,  

[00:37:29] Jamon Fries:

but I am now all in on a hot dog. It's it's good that we've gotten that straightened out, you know, the important things in life.  

[00:37:37] Jesse Fries:

Those are the true important things. Everything else, like Epstein files, who gives a shit? Yeah. Absolutely.   Unless if you're getting blown by Donald, then, of course, it means that we   Yeah. Yep.   But yeah. Yeah. No more Filet O Fish apparently. So Yeah. There you go.  

[00:37:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So it it's, now come out that we're off of Europe, I think. I don't think we have any more European story. No. No. No. No. Okay.   China   and Taiwan.   Uh-huh.   Well, China may not invade Taiwan anymore.  

[00:38:15] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:38:16] Jamon Fries:

They're going about in another route. Uh-huh.   They're cutting off their energy,   and they're cutting off their trade.   So they're still doing the same thing. Okay. They're they still wanna take it over. Okay. That's Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yes. They they are now but instead of using soldiers, they are now trying to do it economically   and to get Taiwan to to come over. Well, that's not gonna work.   Yeah. Of course not.  

[00:38:44] Jesse Fries:

No. The the so so we're just gonna have to have another   Berlin airlift.   Right? Yeah. That that's what we're gonna have to do. Basically. Yes.   If you if you guys out there don't know what that is, it's basically back in   when the Berlin Wall went up, back during the Cold War,   Berlin is behind the Iron Curtain, but   Western West Berlin was controlled by Western Germany and was our ally.   And so they cut off all the routes into Berlin for food and everything like that. So we just transported   via planes.  

[00:39:19] Jamon Fries:

So many.   So many planes. So many planes.  

[00:39:24] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. So we may just have to do the same thing with,   Taiwan then.  

[00:39:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the only problem is is that,   a   transporting oil by plane,  

[00:39:37] Jesse Fries:

not really feasible. No. Our navy would go in.   Yeah. China wouldn't mess with it.  

[00:39:43] Jamon Fries:

The other issue is that they're concerned about though, is that   even if we did   even if we were able to   find gaps   Mhmm. And get some stuff in and out,   the, the fact that that they that Taiwan creates almost   almost all of the microchips in the play in the world.   Right. Right. That that will really hamper the supply of microchips, which will affect everything.  

[00:40:12] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.   But that's why,   we gave all that money to chipmakers and everything like that to come to The United States like Samsung. Yeah. Samsung is about,   like, 15 miles from here or something like that. Oh, okay. Nice.   Yeah. That huge chip factory.   Yep.   So out in Huddl or Taylor. It's right on the border of Huddl and Taylor, but, you know, so Okay.   Pretty close to where they filmed the chain Texas Chainsaw Massacre, actually. Yeah. Nice. Mhmm. Yep.  

[00:40:42] Jamon Fries:

Very cool.  

[00:40:44] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Oh, speaking of China, so   remember when I talked about,   some Chinese being stuck up in space at their space station? Yeah. Well, the three that were up there previously,   they're back home now.   Okay. But they had to take the one good space vessel. So now these three that are stuck up there without a good lifeboat.   Oh. Yeah. That's problematic.   It really is.   It really is. So,   yeah, they don't have a ride home in case something happens. Yeah. So Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:41:21] Jamon Fries:

I'm sure Elon Musk could have no problem going up there and helping him  

[00:41:26] Jesse Fries:

out. If they Probably not. Yeah. If they allow   it, you know, that's the thing. You know? So but yeah. Elon Musk would probably do it. He always does. Yeah. So yeah.  

[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:

Because Unless the Biden doesn't allow him to hurt all of humanity. So No. Completely. Completely.  

[00:41:41] Jesse Fries:

You know,   I I like Musk. I I I don't care what he says. I I I think people go, oh, he's not giving any money to people, like philanthropy and everything like that. Why should   Well, no. It's like, okay. That's a critique. You can have that critique and everything. Yeah. But I'm like, good. But he's actually trying to get us off the planet. He's trying to better with all that money, he he doesn't have a big mansion he lives in. He's not like Bezos or Gates or anything like that. He's like a small house,   you know, that for a while, he didn't even have a house. Does he even have a house? I think that might actually be owned by SpaceX or Tesla or something. It probably is.  

You know, it's just a small thing too. It's not even a huge thing. Apparently, he crashes a lot of other people's houses. But Yeah. Dude, I I think the only thing he actually  

[00:42:30] Jamon Fries:

owns   himself personally   is just the stock in his companies. Yeah. Yeah. So  

[00:42:36] Jesse Fries:

and he just uses that money for   to   create all these other businesses. You know? SpaceX wouldn't be around if he didn't have the Tesla money. No.   Boring company wouldn't be around. No. So yeah. I it's   yeah. No. I I like what he does. He's a bit crazy, but, you know, that's cool.  

[00:42:55] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. So I mean, that that comes with being brilliant.  

[00:42:58] Jesse Fries:

It it generally does. It generally does.   Okay. What else you got?  

[00:43:06] Jamon Fries:

Oh, we're on to The Americas now. Uh-huh. To to this side of the world.   You've got one and I've got one. Oh, start it off.   So do we wanna start in Haiti or in Canada?   Haiti.   Alright. So   you heard about what's going on in Haiti?  

[00:43:28] Jesse Fries:

I don't know.  

[00:43:29] Jamon Fries:

The gangs have taken over, like, 80%  

[00:43:33] Jesse Fries:

of the major city. Yeah. Barbecue and whatnot. Right? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And,  

[00:43:39] Jamon Fries:

they came out and said, look, you know,   if you don't wanna be affected by by our by us gangs,   just stay at home.  

[00:43:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Yeah.  

[00:43:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The UN staff the UN staff has been told to stay off the streets.   There there have been many people trying to flee over into the Dominican Republic, including Americans.   Yep. Yep.   It's just too dangerous to make the trip there. So they they're doing all sorts of they're all these different foundations and stuff are getting their helicopter helicopters   together to to go in and bring out a few people at a time when when when they can find them. But, Right. Yeah. No. I mean, it it's looking like another civil war in Haiti.  

[00:44:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Not it's not a surprise.   No.   The are the Kenyans still there? Do you know?   I don't know. The article didn't mention the Kenyans at all. Okay. Because they were over there as a police force supposedly and whatnot. And you're going Kenyans?   I love Kenya. Don't get me wrong. I've been to Kenya many times. My wife is Kenyan.   But yeah.   Yeah. They're they're   they're not the greatest fighters or police force in the world. So yeah. Mhmm.   What can you do? What can you do? Okay. Yeah. It's not a surprise.   One person will just have to win.   You know? It it's it's kinda like Syria. You know? It's like Even  

[00:45:08] Jamon Fries:

even that   I mean,   the the problem is   is that in Haiti,   everyone else has got their fingers in it.  

[00:45:20] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. I mean,  

[00:45:22] Jamon Fries:

we took a we took over their government   and replaced it with a figurehead   because they   didn't because they were doing stuff that our banks didn't like. Yeah.   Yeah.   France and I mean,   the Europeans   owed were owed supposedly,   were owed so much money by them that it was impossible to do anything. I mean, it just   Well no one there is no one that's willing to stop fucking with Haiti.  

[00:45:53] Jesse Fries:

No. You know, it's like the WTO and or or especially the IMF.   Basically, that's a way to get the third world into debt. That is Yeah. All it is there for. I swear to god. All they do is drive these people into debt,   and then they can't pay it back.   Yep. And   everybody's fucked in that country. It's it's just what it is. It's  

[00:46:16] Jamon Fries:

it's all the time. Look at what they do to Africa.   Yep. Yep. Africa has the technology and the know how to build pretty decent   power stations. Uh-huh.   But because   the WTO   and all of them have passed   regulations   Yep. They can't build a power plant anywhere in Africa.  

[00:46:39] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. It's like, we we just need to stop all this crap. Let them develop as they need to develop. Yeah. You know, let them join us for Christ's sakes. Yes. You know? We went to the bad area. Why don't they? Why do we why do they have to do the expensive   crap  

[00:46:53] Jamon Fries:

and shit cheap way? The the the thing is is, I mean, if you look at other countries,   did we stop China   from polluting massively?   No.   Did we stop Russia from doing anything? No. Did we stop anyone   that had any even semblance   of having   power sometime in the near future? Well, yeah. We never stopped them.  

[00:47:19] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   And really, that's what still treat Africa as if it were their colonies. No. Yeah. We still treat them as colonies. We really do. Yeah.   It's really pathetic.   It is. It is truly pathetic. Yep.   And or we completely ignore them, one or the other. You know? It's it's like Congo and whatnot. It's like, yep, dude. You know? All the   death and everything like that. So Yeah.  

[00:47:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. We're we we we're so dedicated   More of the Europe than here in The US, but The US isn't any better. We're so dedicated on   making sure that we control how they do things Yep.   That   they can't do   anything to improve their situation.   No. Yeah. Their hospitals   can't even really schedule an a surgery   because they got no idea if they're gonna have power that day or not.  

[00:48:14] Jesse Fries:

True. But speaking of hospitals, this takes us right into the Canadian story, James. Anyway, I said it.   Good good one. Good one. Wait.   So   apparently, the health care is so bad. Now and this is this isn't coming from an American. Okay?   This is coming from Canadians.   Health care is so bad there   that   people   would rather   do   the MAID, the assisted dying,   than have to deal   with the health care system.   That is how bad it is. With certain conditions, I can't say as I blame them knowing what I know about Canada's health care system. Yeah. It's it's like what is it? I have I wrote a bit down   one of the stories.  

In Quebec last year,   Norman Nunez,   he he's a quadriplegic.   He developed bedsores after four days left in the ER   stretcher without a good mattress.   And then also, there was a lack of available home care.   And so because of that, he goes, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do assisted suicide.   So he did. Yeah.   Then another guy that had a heart and liver failure and everything like that, the hospitals couldn't do anything for him. They just put him in a   in a hallway   without any lights because they don't even have light bulbs. Jesus Christ.   And that that that's what they had. And so he was gonna,   do the assisted suicide, but he told his family   before   fortunately   well, maybe not fortunately. He died of natural causes before he could do the assisted suicide.  

So maybe spiritually, if you're a Catholic or whatnot, you you know, it's good for his   soul.   But,   he he told his family,   okay. I I'm fucked.   Tell everybody about this. Tell your MP. Tell me tell your MPP whatever   MPP is. I don't know what a MPP is,   but I'm down with it, you know, like OPP.   But   he he was just like, let's get this word out there, You know? Because the system   people are waiting too long. If you have any sort of real condition,   you're screwed.   If you have a hangnail die before you can get the before you can get the help. Yeah. Yeah. And, apparently, I saw this one thing. It was on TikTok. It was, like, going   they did the numbers. And if you went from, like, 2027   to 2024,   they figured that they'll be able to save 1.2   whatever trillion dollars or $3,000,000,000,000   or something like that due to people killing themselves. So you don't have to have health care. So you don't have to do health care for them. It's like, are you are you   wow. Mhmm. See see, this is the problem of   once you actually go down the road of assisted suicide.  

Oh, yeah. And you have a crappy health care system. And and Yes. Not not just crappy, but it is run by the government, all levels of it. Yes. The government will go well, it makes more sense to you for you to kill yourself. Yeah.  

[00:51:34] Jamon Fries:

You know, it's Well, I mean, then that's that's really the only reason that I'm against   government help government   influence in the health care system Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is because   I don't want some bureaucrat somewhere deciding whether I should live or die.  

[00:51:51] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Same thing. It   but they should also make, insurance go well. You have to pay for it. If if if they're paying the cut you as a company, you have to pay for whatever they want. You know, to me, that's what it it's a collective thing. It's not Oh, absolutely.   Yes. I I don't think it's a denial situation. I really don't think otherwise, what's the point of insurance?   There is no point. That's exactly. Yeah. Exactly. It   that is what insurance should be. Plain and simple.   It should be for that's what car insurance is for.   Mhmm. And that is how car insurance is ran.  

Yeah. It it's there for  

[00:52:27] Jamon Fries:

And the thing is is, you know, it it's I I understand   in some ways,   you know,   elective versus nonelective.  

[00:52:35] Jesse Fries:

So Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna pay for your boob job. Like that. Right. No. Exactly.  

[00:52:41] Jamon Fries:

I'm not gonna pay for   anything that you electively do. Yep. Yep.   Except for one   possible   caveat,   and that is   if it's deemed to be   well,   and here's where the problem lies, is medically necessary.  

[00:53:04] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:53:05] Jamon Fries:

For example,   I weigh a lot. I am a very huge person. Right. If I were to lose all of my weight,   I would have a lot of excess skin.   Oh, yeah. Completely.   Now under previous things,   if if I   lost the weight after having bariatric surgery  

[00:53:27] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:53:28] Jamon Fries:

They would pay for the skin removal.   Oh, okay. But if I lose it naturally,   they consider they   elective   operation and therefore   not you so they wouldn't pay for it. Oh, wow.  

[00:53:43] Jesse Fries:

That   no. See that that that's this see, that's just stupid.  

[00:53:48] Jamon Fries:

I know. It it it's It's either medically necessary or it's not. Yes.   And it has a lot of skin and holds that collect moisture and start getting sores.  

[00:53:59] Jesse Fries:

How does Ozempic fall into that?  

[00:54:02] Jamon Fries:

I've   I don't know. They they may consider that as being   a external cause of weight loss. Therefore, they might approve it, maybe?   I don't know.   I have no idea.   Wonder. No. I don't know if it's changed. That was, like, ten, fifteen years ago that I that I when I was researching into bariatric surgery. Right. Right.   So I don't know if that's if those rules have changed since then. They very well may have. I hope like hell that they did.  

[00:54:31] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. But,  

[00:54:33] Jamon Fries:

I mean, just, you know, that's the type of problems that I have with   the medically necessary because it's like, well, if you lost weight this way, it's medically necessary. But if you lost weight weight this way, it's not.   Makes sense. And the way that it's not is the healthier way to lose weight where you're not destroying   everything that about how you   eat and, you know, you don't have to take medication for the rest of maybe that's a problem. You don't have to take medication for the rest of your nightlife.   So they're not getting money out of you, so why should they pay to remove the skin?  



[00:55:07] Jesse Fries:

Because it's cheaper. I don't know. I know. I know. Yeah. No. It's   once again, health care system. Yeah. Yeah. We we we we are on   yeah. No. There's there's so much wrong with it. So much wrong. There is. Yes. Absolutely. Oh, let's see. But, you know, there's nothing wrong with our value for value system here at the the mindless meanderies except we haven't really gotten paid at all. You know? That's it. What can you do? There's one little problem.   Exactly. But, yeah, here at the wireless media, we are a value for value model. So what that means is that if you deign yourself   or if you deign us worthy enough for you to,   helps defray some of the cost of this podcast, that'd be great.  

Yeah.   Yeah. That'd be great. Any amount helps? A dollar, $2, $3. I don't care. Send me a penny.   Maybe that penny is worth a million dollars. Did you hear some of those final pennies are gonna probably run for a million dollars or more?  

[00:56:04] Jamon Fries:

It wouldn't surprise me. Yep. Yep.  

[00:56:06] Jesse Fries:

You could also send us show ideas and everything like that.   You can send to me, jesse@minusc.com,   and you can email jamen@jamenatmindlessmeanderings.com.   Any idea would work. Just send us anything.   Say hi.   Say, we hear you.   Be creepy. I don't care. Anything.  

[00:56:28] Jamon Fries:

Anything. I'm good with creepy.  

[00:56:33] Jesse Fries:

Y'all do business. Okay. What you got, Jamon?   Well,  

[00:56:37] Jamon Fries:

so the the you you've I'm I'm sure you've seen well, you might not have. But,   do you do much online shopping?   Yeah. Most of it. Like, beyond groceries. Yeah. Have you used to seen those things where it says   that where you can pay this much or   you can pay later?   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those buy now pay later things.   There's some people saying they're expanding way  

[00:57:06] Jesse Fries:

too fast now. Well, it's dangerous.  

[00:57:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's very dangerous. Uh-huh. Especially for   two reasons.   Well, one reason and the other one's kind of an interesting   so they're they're using these, the way that they're used to show   that the economy is in shambles Uh-huh.   Because people are buying food are using that to buy food.  

[00:57:33] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:57:35] Jamon Fries:

Well,   people that are gonna use buy now pay laters things   are gonna use it to buy everything.   So I'm not sure that that necessarily talks about the economy   as it talks as much as it talks about   poor choices that they make. Well, it's  

[00:57:52] Jesse Fries:

it's a credit card. People use credit cards all the time for groceries. I actually use a credit card. I pay it off every month, but I use a credit card to pay for everything. Yeah. So There are a lot of people that don't pay off their the full amount of their credit card credit card. Oh, yeah. In fact, very few people do.   Every so often, I can't.   But that's what the credit card is there for. And then I can pay it back later. Exactly. But, generally,   most most every month, we pay it off fully. You know? Mhmm.  

[00:58:21] Jamon Fries:

The problem though with these buy now pay later schemes things Mhmm.   Is that 90%   of them don't report to the credit bureau.  

[00:58:32] Jesse Fries:

Well, that's no good. Which means  

[00:58:35] Jamon Fries:

that if you have one company doing a buy now pay later  

[00:58:39] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:58:41] Jamon Fries:

When you go to another website, it's a different company. They don't know that you've already done one with somebody else.   Oh, Jesus.   And so you've got people that have four or five buy now pay laters that they're paying every month.  

[00:58:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. That that that's A very large portion of people  

[00:59:00] Jamon Fries:

never make a payment on those.   Imagine that.  

[00:59:04] Jesse Fries:

But they don't report into the credit bureaus. Well, if they're not reported, yeah, that's free money, dude. Yeah.   It's nothing but free money. I it's yeah. Yeah.   No.   For me,   I I I don't it doesn't make sense.   No. I know. Later source of Jamieson, you know. But, yeah, for some people, they're gonna get free shit out of this. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. If they're not reported,   yeah, I know. Let let's just  

[00:59:36] Jamon Fries:

how how Well, you know, I mean, there there's always those people that don't care even if they are reported, they're not gonna pay it off. Well, right. Right. But but at least people know that they don't pay off their debt.  

[00:59:47] Jesse Fries:

No. Exactly. And then they might not be able to do the pay now later. Yeah. You know? It's like  

[00:59:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. That's No. You you you've already screwed over two companies. We're not gonna deal with you. Yeah. That type of thing. Yeah.  

[01:00:01] Jesse Fries:

That is odd.   Yeah.   Speaking of, like, credit or whatnot,   so Capital One, they they decided to change,   who   the the they they decided to change this   network they use for, their debit cards.  

[01:00:18] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:00:19] Jesse Fries:

It went to Discover,   which   is   covered most places, but it's not everywhere.  

[01:00:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. No. It's not like Visa where it's accepted everywhere. Yeah. It's not like Visa or Mastercard.  

[01:00:35] Jesse Fries:

Oh.   So   and, apparently, people have been having nothing but headaches with the whole system. Oh, I can imagine.   So,   yeah, I don't I really don't know what Gabbro they must have gotten a hell of a deal from Discover. They had to yeah. Otherwise, it just doesn't make any sense.  

[01:00:52] Jamon Fries:

No. It doesn't.  

[01:00:54] Jesse Fries:

It's Makes no sense. Discover?   That's like the that's also Rand. You know? It's like, oh, you you have a Discover? Oh, look at cute. It it's not like,   American Express where it's not taken everywhere, but, you know, it's like going, oh, American Express. Okay. I see.   You know what? American  

[01:01:13] Jamon Fries:

Express to me has always   carried the   I'm better than others.  

[01:01:20] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. You know? It's it's like Exactly. It's a status symbol. Yeah. Or American else. Yeah. The Mary the black card? Holy hell. Yeah. Yeah. That's like  

[01:01:29] Jamon Fries:

Well, plus plus,   American Express,   for the longest time,   was accepted   a lot more than even Visa was overseas.   Right. Overseas, definitely. Yep. Yep. Which is why it got that status sim because Yep. If you got an if you got an American Express,   you could travel overseas and still use it, you know? Yep. Yep. So so a lot of people were like, you must be better off because you can travel overseas.  

[01:01:56] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's but yeah. Discover. That's like yeah. Okay. What were you thinking, dude?   What were you thinking? I I it's just Yeah.  

[01:02:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. No. That that's not so good. It really isn't. It really isn't.   So I've got a few more stories that are related to Elon Musk, get away. Okeydokey.   So Blue Origin,   they have finally entered into competition with Elon Musk with their,   breezable rockets. They have successfully landed their their their,   first attempt.   Nice. Nice.   Yeah. So they are they are getting pretty close to having reliable re renewable rockets. So keeping the price driving down, that means that there's competition,  

[01:02:47] Jesse Fries:

which means that prices should drop even further now. No. Exactly. Which is what it's all about. This is why you want   capitalism   when it comes to space exploration. You know? It's, Well, this is why you should want capitalism when it comes to everything. No. Yeah. Because competition keeps the prices down. Yep. Yep. Yep. And, you know, it's like   one thing, it's like, the   you can complain about these rich assholes all you want. You really can't.   But they're actually doing something with it. You know, they're try you you know, it's like the robber barons. The robber barons, you can complain about them. Yes. They did a lot of bad things. Yeah. But they connected the entire United States by rail.   Yeah.  

Without the robber barons, that would not have happened. No. Not even not even remotely close to it. And so  

[01:03:39] Jamon Fries:

yeah. It would have it would have been so long before we before we connected.  

[01:03:45] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[01:03:46] Jamon Fries:

I never actually would have gotten connected.  

[01:03:48] Jesse Fries:

Yep. And now the   huge,   they were just millionaires back then, but now the billionaires,   they're going out there and they're doing the same thing but with space. I see. Yeah.   I see.   Yes. There's always problems no matter what. Oh, yeah.   But the drive   that gets us out and changes the world, you know, that's   it can't be bought. You know? They they well, it can't be.  

[01:04:14] Jamon Fries:

And and and it's not something that a government would ever be able to do. No. Exactly. They they could start something.  

[01:04:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But then you need capital taken over. Suggest something. Yep. Yep. But  

[01:04:27] Jamon Fries:

they would never be able to just say, you know what?  

[01:04:31] Jesse Fries:

We're gonna throw all our money into this. We're doing it, and we're doing it now. Well, not only that, the government can do that. They did that in the first space race and everything like that.   But what they can't do is they can't go well, I also need to make a buck off this thing. It can't be for nothing. It can't just be   because. Because the only reason why we did it was to beat the Soviets. That is the only reason. There was no monetary reason to do it. No. Not at all.   But these capitalists have found a way to make money doing it. You know? So   it'll it'll drive down the cost of everything. You know? It will really drive the balance. Will. Yep. It absolutely will. And it'll also,  

[01:05:14] Jamon Fries:

once once it's once it's proven that there's profit in doing it Uh-huh.   A lot more people are gonna jump on the bandwagon and start trying to do it themselves. Exactly. Well, it's it's like look at Tesla.  

[01:05:26] Jesse Fries:

So before Tesla,   EVs were a joke.  

[01:05:30] Jamon Fries:

Yes.  

[01:05:31] Jesse Fries:

They were 100%   a joke. Oh, yeah. Everywhere in the world, they were a joke.   Yeah. Now look at what they're doing. They're, like, taking over China.   Yep.   Here in The United States,   I don't think we have a good system for it. You know, I I No. We do. They they they it hasn't been built out or anything like that.   Musk is trying, but,   GM is kinda trying, but we'll see what can come of it. But, yeah, it's, It it'll it'll take years before the infrastructure is built for it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So  

[01:06:03] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But with EVs,   Tesla has, put out some news that you might enjoy if you Uh-huh. Owned one.   They are bringing CarPlay   into their EVs.  

[01:06:15] Jesse Fries:

Oh, finally.   Nice.   Yeah. Nice.  

[01:06:19] Jamon Fries:

Just after GM says, you know what? We're done with CarPlay.   Tesla, like, you know,   CarPlay's sounding pretty damn good right now. Exactly. I hear people complain.  

[01:06:32] Jesse Fries:

Yes. You know, it could drive. Yeah. It could drive because,   seriously, I and then you have the Toyota   thing as well,   GM, all these things where basically they're they wanna nickel and dime you to death, these, car companies now. Yeah.   It's like, I already pay for all this crap on my phone.   Mhmm. Why would I wanna pay you more? I wouldn't. Yeah. I would get one of those ugly screens to put in my car. It's what I would do.   Seriously.   If I ever get to that point with GM, I'm just gonna get one of those sticker right there and say, I'm done with you.   Yep. I I I won't use their maps. They suck. Jesus Christ. They they they don't and I hate Google Maps, and that's what GM and all these car companies use, Google Maps. Yeah.  

I don't like Google Maps. It's a at least you get Waze or something, but no Google Maps. Right. You know? It's Yeah.  

[01:07:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And then Tesla also,   they,   Waymo started making a fuss about Tesla's,   telling them to release more of their safety data and stuff like that. Uh-huh.   They they've always re they've always been very open with most of their safety data. Right. But they haven't included their full self drive in that data. It's always been just the autopilot type stuff. Okay.   So   Waymo, of course, came out and said, well, if you're gonna be doing cyber cabs, if you're gonna be doing the you're gonna be doing the, the taxi service   Mhmm. You we damn well better see the safety reports on your full self self drive as well. Right. Right. Right. Just makes sense. Oh, yeah. And so they did, and they so the Tesla released that information.  

And,   I mean,   I don't know if it's as good as Waymo is, but it's pretty damn good.  

[01:08:24] Jesse Fries:

Good. Good. Good.  

[01:08:26] Jamon Fries:

They they they have,   they have about 500 driven 5,000,000 driven miles before a major collision.  

[01:08:35] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:08:36] Jamon Fries:

Where the national standard is 699,000   miles.   Okay.  

[01:08:41] Jesse Fries:

Not bad. So they're  

[01:08:44] Jamon Fries:

quite they're they're over five times better than than the national standard.   Oh, yeah. They if for minor collisions,   they're it's 1,500,000   miles before my before a minor collision.   Okay. And the national standard is 229,000.  

[01:09:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's not bad. That's not bad at all. Yeah. So yeah. Now the the difference between minor and major is if the airbag is if the airbag is deployed or not. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.  

[01:09:15] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. It it's I mean,   good to know. Their their full self drive seems to be pretty good.  

[01:09:22] Jesse Fries:

No. Completely. Completely.   Speaking of EVs, I might as well go with that   story. So, apparently, researchers   looked at the lifespan of,   EV batteries.   Okay.   And,   apparently,   at around a 100,000 miles, the batteries are still 90% good.   Damn.   Yeah. So that's actually   that that  

[01:09:47] Jamon Fries:

that that's pretty damn good, really. So why are they telling everybody to change batteries?  

[01:09:52] Jesse Fries:

Well, if they fail   Well, yeah. And and what you do is you basically hear the   sob stories is what you do. Yeah. The the good stories don't the or just the it's working never make the news.   That is true. Yes. You only hear about that. Oh, I bought a used Tesla, and now I have to spend $20,000   to change the battery.   Yeah.   So so that's what you hear. But   in essence,   overall,   it's actually not bad. It's just that how much it costs if it goes wrong, hoo, doggy.   Yeah. Yeah. You you you know, it's it's a very pricey fix. It's worse than when your engine blows. Yeah.   You know, it's,   that will only run you like 7,000, you know. If your engine blows,  

[01:10:43] Jamon Fries:

you're not usually gonna spend as much as you would to buy a new car.   If your electric battery goes Yes. Yeah. You might as well just buy a new car.  

[01:10:52] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. They they they need to do something about that. They really need to do something about that. Yeah. But, yeah, 90%   at a 100,000 miles? No. That's pretty damn good. It really is. You know? So by, what, February, it might be down to 70?  

[01:11:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Maybe.   Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Actually hit 200,000.  

[01:11:12] Jesse Fries:

Well, there's less   moving parts in a  

[01:11:16] Jamon Fries:

EV. Oh, yeah. So Yeah. Absolutely.  

[01:11:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But yeah. I I I found that I mean, you know, by the time you hit 200,000 for most people, that's, like,   fifteen, twenty years later. Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.  

[01:11:28] Jamon Fries:

So that would and that would mean that potentially the   resale   of electric vehicles would be much much better because   the battery would be in better shape and would be able to survive longer. So you would have so it would have more value in a resale potentially.   Mhmm. So that would be interesting. That would be cool to see how that how that'll all play out. It would. It would.  

[01:11:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Also speaking of cars,   the   Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, he said that they're short 5,000 mechanic positions that pay a $120,000   a year.   So   if that's true,   I I've heard some people say that's not really true.   But, you know,   so if that's true, get into those fields, people. You know? It's,   I also heard, like, what, aircraft,   mechanics or something like that. They pay, like, $300,000   a year. Oh, yeah. And there's a shortage of those. A bunch of people are about to retire there. So  

[01:12:29] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, it's it's really in this it's it's really just   physical labor   every everywhere in the physical labor field. Oh, yeah. They're short. Yep. And they make good money. I mean, plumbers make damn good money. Right?  

[01:12:45] Jesse Fries:

They really do right now. Yeah. Yeah. 6 figure is easy. Yeah.   Yeah. But then 6 figures isn't what six figures used to be. So Well, no. No. Not but it's still way above the the national average. Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. You you you'd get into about upper or middle upper class for that one. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:13:05] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, if if you can hit middle upper upper class by   being a plumber,   my god. I I wish I learned how to be a plumber.  

[01:13:16] Jesse Fries:

Right?   That would be nice. That would be nice. Yeah.   Let's see here. Oh, we're about to get into studies, and as everybody knows,   most studies are wrong or so a study says.   And so what do you got, Jabin?  

[01:13:34] Jamon Fries:

I think we need to add another caveat into that one as well. Why? What? The studies are either wrong   or they might be inaccurate or there's a small possibility that could be true.   But then there's the, well, fucking duh studies.   What were you thinking?  

[01:13:53] Jesse Fries:

Is that one of the ones you have? Study this. Is that one of the  

[01:13:56] Jamon Fries:

That's that's the study that I've got. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So   extended use of anti clotting drugs   reduces the risk of recurrent blood clots.   Well, of course, it fucking does. You're still on the anticoagulant.  

[01:14:15] Jesse Fries:

That's funny.  

[01:14:19] Jamon Fries:

Wow. Yeah. Sounds about right. So the, I guess, blood clots, they come in sets. So   if you've just had a blood clot, there's a larger likelihood that within the short period of time you're gonna have another one. So what you could buy a 12 pack or a six pack or Kind of. Yeah. Kind of.   And so what this what this study showed is that if instead of the standard   ninety day protocol   of   taking an anticoagulant,   if you bump that up to say a hundred and twenty days or more,   that the likelihood of those recurrent blood clots is lessened.   Okay.  

Now if you just paid attention now if you just went with this, I mean, of of course, it makes sense because you're still on the anticoagulant.  

[01:15:06] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[01:15:08] Jamon Fries:

But the problem is and so you if you just look at what they said in the study, now they did get at the very end of it, they're like, now there are some problems.   But the study was basically saying, you know, if everybody was just on anticoagulants   for their whole life, then, you know, you'd never have to worry about blood clots.   True. True. True. Unfortunately, there's also a very, yeah, big downside to you and to long term anticoagulant   use, which is that you're more likely to bleed.  

[01:15:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You cut yourself and all of a sudden you blood out.  

[01:15:42] Jamon Fries:

You know? It is it is a possibility   if if it's too too active in the system. I mean, after all,   why why what is rat poison?   Yeah. Yeah. Rat poison is is an anticoagulant.   How does it work? It puts too much into their system and their blood vessels just can't hold on to the blood anymore.  

[01:16:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:16:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that's what eventually happens to to people if you take it for years upon years upon years upon years.   No. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. I've I've been on one for,   twelve, thirteen years now.  

[01:16:19] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. Okay. Well Yeah. There you go. There you go.   Okay. You know, you could have that problem,   or you could be like this German pastor   who just discovered   that his grandfather   was Heinrich Himmler,   the architect of the Holocaust.   So,   yeah, it's a it's this whole thing. Apparently,   his grandmother   was the secretary to Himmler,   and then they started they they became lovers.   They had a tryst? Right. No. No. Lovers. Not a tryst. This was like a long ongoing sort of situation.   And   then, you know, they had a child, his this guy's mother.   And the mother, for some reason I don't know why the mother never talked about that his grandfather was Heinrich Himmler.  

But, apparently,   she never   said so. But, you know,   it's   it should have been a bit obvious because well,   so there's Heinrich. This guy's name is Henrich.   Heinrich. Henrich. So, yeah, he's named after Heinrich Himmler. I'm just saying. He is. I   maybe maybe not, but he's named after Heinrich Himmler. You know? So  

[01:17:44] Jamon Fries:

Oh, shit.  

[01:17:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So   Yeah. That   he he discovered while he was he's he's in between   our age. He's, like, 49 or something like that. He just discovered, like, a year or so ago.   Oh, man. Yeah. He saw some photos of his grandmother, and right next to her were was Heinrich Hibbler.  

[01:18:07] Jamon Fries:

What a way to find out. Right? And then he did  

[01:18:11] Jesse Fries:

the whole ancestry crap thing.   So, yeah, he's the grandson of Heinrich Hemmer. But you know what that means.  

[01:18:20] Jamon Fries:

What?   If you follow the   what everyone's saying now   with the whole reparations and stuff Uh-huh.   He should be paying out a lot of reparations. Yeah. Something. Something. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:18:36] Jesse Fries:

Looks like one of   yeah. It looks like his grandmother was at the Nuremberg trials.  

[01:18:46] Jamon Fries:

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Right? That's a family history everyone wants to forget about.  

[01:18:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's Germany right there. What happened? I think it happened from 1930 until 1945.   I have no clue what you're talking about. No. No. No. I did. Yeah. We just went from the Weimar to,   East And West Germany.   Yeah.  

[01:19:08] Jamon Fries:

It happened so fast.  

[01:19:10] Jesse Fries:

It happened so fast.   Let's see here. You wanna do yours or I could do another one here. Okay.   Let's see here. So, apparently so you know the Louvre was, hit by that robbery and everything like that? Yeah. I don't think they've found the jewels yet. Right?   Yeah. Not that I know of. I know they found a few of the people, but I don't think they've found the jewels yet. Yeah. Yeah. I did see something funny about that. It was like, oh, they may have stolen the jewels, but we we took some photographs of them. And we the the what's what was that stupid thing where you could buy   a a digital thing and it it was unique and everything like that?  

Oh, shit. I I can't remember. Yeah. I can't remember what it was called. But, yeah, they go, oh, we have those pictures, and those are just as good. And you're like, oh, sure, dude. Sure.   Anyways Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So some pranksters from Belgium,   decided I'm loving the Belgians right now. Just like Oh, yeah. So so some pranksters from Belgium decided to,   they they snuck in a picture of themselves,   like, a artsy sort of thing,   and with a frame around it. Somehow, they got a frame. It was made out of wood, so it got through security and everything like that. And then they put it up on the wall right next to   the Mona Lisa.  

Oh, shit. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That   that was pretty funny.  

[01:20:42] Jamon Fries:

Damn. That that's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:20:45] Jesse Fries:

Don't know how long it probably didn't last very long. It was, like, closing and they put it up. So they should have done it for longer, but, you know and they should have put a plaque to describe it, but they didn't do that. See, it's those details that would have really sent it over the top. But yeah. Okay. Okay.  

[01:21:01] Jamon Fries:

So I've got a question for you, Jesse. Uh-huh.   What is seven plus two   equals   six   plus   x?   I have to write it down. Solve for x.  

[01:21:22] Jesse Fries:

Okay. What was that again?  

[01:21:24] Jamon Fries:

Seven plus two Uh-huh.   Equals six plus x.  

[01:21:31] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So that's   nine equals   six plus   x, and   then take over   the   six. So nine minus six   equals x. So   that would be six x equals six.   No.   What is it?   Three.   Three?   Seven plus two is Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's done. I completely messed it up. Yeah. Yeah. I see. But you shouldn't you shouldn't feel bad.  

[01:22:05] Jamon Fries:

Uh-huh. Because   only twenty five percent of people that get into college   answered it right in the study.  

[01:22:14] Jesse Fries:

Ouch.  

[01:22:18] Jamon Fries:

Ouch. A result of this is that colleges   are now   starting to offer   middle school math.  

[01:22:27] Jesse Fries:

What?   Yes. Middle school math?  

[01:22:31] Jamon Fries:

Yes.  

[01:22:32] Jesse Fries:

My daughter in fifth grade is doing middle school math. Yes.  

[01:22:37] Jamon Fries:

Colleges are having to teach   their students   middle school math.  

[01:22:44] Jesse Fries:

How did you let them into college?  

[01:22:48] Jamon Fries:

Well, it's the it how do they even fucking graduate high school? How do they graduate middle school? Well  

[01:22:55] Jesse Fries:

right. No. Completely. Completely. But how did you let them into college? I thought there was a selective process.  

[01:23:02] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. No. You're wrong about that. I mean, they they they don't they don't use any form of testing methods anymore.   I thought they started purely   no. No.   No. Yeah. A lot of schools have started do the ACT There are a lot of schools that are starting to use the SAT and stuff, but there's a big push to prevent them from doing it again. Oy.   Yeah. No.   I I think this was I I can't remember which college it was.   UC San Diego.   So the University of California San Diego   found that 25%   of their incoming freshmen   could answer that question right.  



[01:23:47] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Okay. That's, Yeah.   And I was trying to do it quickly. Yeah. I see where it went wrong.   In my head, because I had carried the three, because I knew it was three and blah blah blah. Right. But, yeah, it's,   yeah. But, anyways yeah. No. That that's no good. That's no good at all. No wonder why,   international people that would stop coming to The United States would be kidding. Yeah. Yeah. They don't wanna be around those dumb idiots.   Yeah.   Okay. Let's see here.   I have two other stories, and they're both kinda related.   First off first off, we'll start with the fact that apparently, there were female gladiators back in ancient Rome. Did you know that? Yes. There were. Absolutely. Yes. Did you know they went around topless?  



[01:24:33] Jamon Fries:

I knew that a large portion of them did. Yeah. Yeah. They said basically all of them did.  

[01:24:38] Jesse Fries:

And they didn't also did not wear helmets   when they fought,   unlike the men. So both men and women would be topless and everything like that, but the men will have helmets. The women did not.   Apparently, though, it wasn't really to the death for the women a lot of times. Right. Yep.   Unlike the men wears to the death.   But, they did go all out at each other and just went crazy and everything like that. So Mhmm. Yeah. So you could go enjoy a show,   with boobs bouncing around. You know? It doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. You know? There you go. Not at all.   And, apparently, some wealthy women would join in the fun.  

So That's not surprising in any way. It really isn't. It really isn't. It really isn't. Well, I mean, considering that  

[01:25:23] Jamon Fries:

that that was that was actually a norm in that time. Uh-huh.   It was just that   much like when the emperors would choose to fight in the arena,   they would have real weapons and real armor, and the other people would have a stick would have a stick as a sword. Uh-huh. Wooden swords.   So,   you know, yeah, you're guaranteed to win.   But it was it was much much the same. You could pay to to go in and prove your manlihood or your womanhood or whatever. Uh-huh. And   you would end up in a situation kind of the same thing where you were given real weapons and they were not. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:26:03] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yep. Yep. Yep.   Okay. So the next one is related. Boobs are kinda involved in this one too. Okay.   So there there's a congressman. His name is,   Brad Sherman. He's a 71 year old,   Democrat from California.   So   this is what Elon even comes into this story. It's kinda funny. So this guy,   he was on a plane. Right? A public plane, you know, flying commercial.   And, he was on x, apparently,   and he was scrolling   lingerie   models and whatnot.   Right?   Scantily clad women and everything like that. And somebody decided to snap some pictures of him leering   at these young ladies   on acts and everything like that.  

So and so guess what? Guess who this guy blames?  

[01:26:59] Jamon Fries:

Oh, of course, it's Musk's fault. Exactly. He blames the algorithm. Were available on x. I mean, come on now. He blamed the algorithm.  

[01:27:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Oh, god. Which which is which is hilarious.   Oh, yeah. Because you know how the algorithm  

[01:27:14] Jamon Fries:

works. Right? Yes. The algorithm will   will recommend something that's very comparable to things you've looked at in the past.  

[01:27:22] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. It's a very dumb algorithm, but that is what it is. It's like, you like this. I'm gonna show you this.  

[01:27:30] Jamon Fries:

You you watch you watch one   you watch one pro Trump thing. Uh-huh. And suddenly,   every recommended thing for you is pro Trump. Exactly. Exactly. So Yeah. Yes.  

[01:27:43] Jesse Fries:

Maybe the algorithm but the way he was leering, I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was just staring there. You know? I I I don't know. It's just a picture, but, you know or a couple pictures. But it's, like, picture after picture of it. It's not just one. He  

[01:27:58] Jamon Fries:

he could have at least been tactful and said,   I'm trying to find a gift for my wife.   Something something. But yeah. What's the come out and say it's Elon Musk's fault and his algorithm.  

[01:28:10] Jesse Fries:

Damn them. That one looks a   bit dirtier, that picture.   Yeah.   No. So some of these things, it's like,   dude, what do you   Yeah. You're on the commercial flight, dude. You didn't put it in your pants. You know, if if if I were to  

[01:28:28] Jamon Fries:

do something like that and if I were to be caught, I would be like,   yeah.   About a month ago, I was trying to find some lingerie for my significant other.   And now everywhere I look on x, I'm in the algorithm. I'm stuck on it. Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean, that that would be an that would be an acceptable argument because I've run into that situation with other stuff before.   But  

[01:28:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. The headline was funny. It said that he was looking at porn. It wasn't porn. It was just, like, lingerie and whatnot. But still, it was like,   dude.  

[01:29:01] Jamon Fries:

Oh god. That's hilarious. Right? Right?  

[01:29:05] Jesse Fries:

And, you know, I think I wanna go look at some lingerie too. And with that,   thank you for joining us for episode   80 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries,   and we will talk to you on Thursday.