A live recoded roaming conversation between brothers covering today's news story.
Hosted by:
- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:20) Introduction and Moose Migration
(00:02:19) British Office of Communications and Free Speech
(00:09:10) Immigration and Deportation Cases
(00:26:56) Tariffs and Trade Wars
(00:39:52) Harvard and Government Funding
(00:47:17) Martial Law Rumors and Political Maneuvers
(00:51:58) IRS Workforce Reduction and Automation
(01:01:02) Daylight Savings Time Debate
(01:07:17) FDA Phasing Out Animal Testing
(01:18:56) UK Supreme Court Ruling on Gender
(01:28:59) Memory Manipulation and AI
(01:31:13) Tennis Match and Cultural Differences
Show Notes:
https://mindlesssea.com/show-notes-import-to-deport/
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Jesse Fries:
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, April 16, and we are live with episode number 33 of the minus meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries. And if you are listening to this podcast in The UK, you need to stop, and we will not allow it. Not sure how we'll stop it,
[00:00:39] Jesse Fries:
but your office of communication might come after us or even you if you don't stop now. Oh, wow. And I'm Jamin Freese. And right now, I would much rather be going on to TikTok, I never thought I'd say that, and watching the great moose migration with over 9,000,000 people.
[00:01:01] Jesse Fries:
Oh, the great moose migration. What is the great goose migration?
[00:01:07] Jesse Fries:
So in Sweden, there there's this guy. He set up 30 cameras along the the migration path that the mist take from their winter foraging grounds to the summer foraging grounds. Right. And they just watches 300,000 moose go on this migration. Okay. That that was that was reading one article yesterday, and it was talking about some of the comments where, like, somebody was, like, I gotta go to the bathroom, but a moose might come by when I when I'm at the bathroom, so I can't go.
[00:01:44] Jesse Fries:
So a moose might come by? Yes. A moose.
[00:01:48] Jesse Fries:
So Because there there's there's no guarantee of seeing of seeing a moose at any given time during this because, you know, it's in the forest and, you know, they're it's like a month long migration or something like that. People are fucking stupid. I swear I know. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So I that that's what I'd rather be doing because I'm pretty much
[00:02:14] Jesse Fries:
more important than this. Oh, much more important. Much more important. But, yeah, apparently, when it comes to, the British Office of Communications, apparently, they're going after, like they haven't gone after podcasts. I don't know how you they'd actually stop us for saying anything. But, you know, maybe legally, they're they're trying to go after, like, American companies or other companies. Like, do you know Gab.com?
[00:02:41] Jesse Fries:
Never heard of it.
[00:02:43] Jesse Fries:
It's like a Twitter, but it's a a free speech Twitter sort of thing or text. You you know? So and they truly believe in just free speech. So roughly whatever you say out there, they're just gonna let go, without, moderation. Probably even, like, Nazi stuff, commie stuff, this, that, races, whatever. I I don't think they care. Yep. But, apparently, it it's a US based company too. So it's completely 100% US based. Okay. But they got a letter from, Ofcom, the British office of, communications. And in The UK, they have a law that restricts what you can say online and everything like that. Right. You you know?
And so now they're trying to use that law against foreign companies just because you can get to it from a British computer.
[00:03:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No? Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So Aren't there, like, a lot of international laws that prevent that kind of shit?
[00:03:55] Jesse Fries:
There are. There are International treaties and stuff like that? Yes. There are. But the way they view it is that we can do it because some British are using your site, and so they they say that, they can do it. So Well, you know what they could do.
[00:04:12] Jesse Fries:
What? Since they are a government of censorship now. Uh-huh. They could block that site. You know, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. You you can't go after the people, the US company that's that's sponsoring it and say, you're you you have to change your rules for everyone because we don't like it.
[00:04:34] Jesse Fries:
That's what I'm thinking, just like the Chinese. But if they would do that, do you know what that would prove to everybody?
[00:04:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
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It means they have no free speech. It be even though they say they do, it would mean that they are just as bad as China when it comes to censoring speech.
[00:04:56] Jesse Fries:
Just as bad as China and North Korea and Russia.
[00:05:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, does Russia have a, like, great firewall of China sort of situation?
[00:05:08] Jesse Fries:
I don't think that they do.
[00:05:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So I don't think they do. North Korea They they but
[00:05:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. North Korea, I'm sure, does. Right. I well, I'd be surprised if North Korea has Internet. Well, I'm sure they do a little bit, at least for some people. But The the government officials probably have access to the Internet, but I highly doubt if the normal people do. Right. But, now with with Russia, I was more thinking, you know, that at least Russia does it right. They create laws or say that there are laws in place and just arrest everyone. Well right. Right. But but they don't go after foreign companies. Right. Right. In in instead, if you look at their web if you look at the foreign website, they'll arrest you. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[00:05:59] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. So Gab.com, what they did is, they came up with this whole website. It's UK.Gabb.com. And it says, attention UK visitor detected. The fine notice applies to specifically to users accessing from The United Kingdom. It basically just goes into this whole thing to where Ofcom is saying, where they want information on users and operations of gab.com. And gab.com is going no. They actually said, we know where this leads compelled censorship and British citizens thrown in jail for hate speech. We refuse to comply with this tyranny. So Nice.
Yeah. Yeah. So you yeah. I don't understand this whole yeah. If they don't like it, put up a firewall in your country.
[00:06:50] Jesse Fries:
It's not hard to do.
[00:06:52] Jesse Fries:
Well, I'm sure it's not easy, but, you know, exactly. Yeah. Con considering that even Netflix That's true. Netflix
[00:07:01] Jesse Fries:
can can use your your geographical location determine to determine what kind of stuff you can watch. True. True. You could just have it as, your
[00:07:12] Jesse Fries:
your telecoms just cutting everything off. Your, Internet provider is just cutting everything off. So yeah. Yeah. It's not hard to do it. Yep. Yep. But, yeah, I just find it crazy. You know? It's That is very crazy. Yes. Why are you going after us? You know? It's but, apparently, there are what is it? There are, like, treaties and whatnot involved. And and so Gab has actually gone to through this treaty process. They've filed some cases apparently in US courts, trying to remediate this sort of situation. But Yep. Yeah. It's just crazy. It is crazy.
Yeah. So
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Yeah.
[00:07:54] Jesse Fries:
And then apparently, another site, Kiwi Farms or something like that. It's another crazy place, that you that you can just say whatever you want. You know? Okay. But, Yeah. You know, I don't understand this. Free speech, people. Plain and simple. Let's,
[00:08:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. If you're gonna be a country that claims to have free speech, then you have to actually have free speech.
[00:08:16] Jesse Fries:
You would think. But, apparently, what you can do is you can just go after the companies and say, bad you.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
You know? I don't Well, and, essentially, didn't the US government do that after 2020? Well, even before 2020. With what? Where they worked with a lot of the social media sites on limiting what could be said.
[00:08:41] Jesse Fries:
That is true. That is true. And and it's just messed up. But the difference is is that it's internal. Yeah. You know, it's like our government is going after our companies. Right. Right. To doing this sort of thing. You know? It's Yep. And if you actually set up business in another country, okay, fine. You can they can come after you for that. But if you're just on the website as a company, you know Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:09:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolute. It's messed up.
[00:09:14] Jesse Fries:
It is. It is. Let's see here. What else is going on? I guess we could do, what should we cover right now? Should we go with, immigration? Let's get the immigration stuff out of the way. Yeah. Okay. Let let let's go with that. So there's not that much new really, when it comes to immigration. So, basically, the latest, there's the, Mahmoud Khalil. Mhmm. This is the Colombian, University of Columbia student, who is married to a dentist, US dentist. Yep. They're about to have a baby, and he was basically a leader of, the pro Palestinian movements, protests on, the Colombian campus.
Yep. So basically, where the what this is now is let's see. Where are my notes here? So, basically, what this is, it's not where did it go? I have notes on this. I swear. I know I do. Seriously, where is it my notes? Oh, there they are. Okay. So, basically, a judge immigration judge down in Louisiana has said that he can be deported. Okay? But then there's but that's gonna be appealed to the appellate court, for immigration. And then, also, there's federal courts involved, like the New Jersey court. There's been a petition of a habeas petition, basically saying that he shouldn't be in Louisiana, so he should be brought back to New Jersey and everything like that. But since he's in Louisiana, the judge in New Jersey is going, I'm not sure if I have the jurisdiction for this one because habeas has to be filed where they are at.
Yeah. It's it's so it would have to be filed in Louisiana or at least within that district. Right. So it's just a huge messed up thing. The I I checked this guy's Wiki page. I I don't it it seems a bit messed up. I I I don't think I can believe anything on it. It says he has a Algerian mother and maybe a Palestinian father, but it doesn't talk about a father. It looks like he was like a refugee, from, like, Algeria or Syria or this or that. It's a huge
[00:12:01] Jesse Fries:
thing. Yeah.
[00:12:02] Jesse Fries:
And the Wiki page talked about how his parents were, like, asylum seekers from the Ottoman Empire. What a empire that, disappeared in the beginning part of the twentieth century has to do with anything? I yeah. Yeah. They were gone over a hundred years ago, the Ottoman Empire. Yeah. I I don't think his parents were part of the Ottoman Empire. No. I I really don't think so. Really don't think it's even possible. So I mean, great grandparents,
[00:12:33] Jesse Fries:
great great grandparents is a slight possibility.
[00:12:37] Jesse Fries:
Maybe a dad, but definitely not a mom. You you know? Because a dad can procreate up until he dies. So but yeah. I I found that rather odd too. Yeah. But this this guy, he was always working for some UN or some British organization in the the in the embassies and everything like that. So more than likely, he's a spook anyways. He's probably a spy of some sort.
[00:13:04] Jesse Fries:
Most likely.
[00:13:06] Jesse Fries:
At the school he was at in Colombia, the actual specific school is more of a foreign relations, teaching people how to do things. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seems a bit
[00:13:23] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It does that does seem a bit hanky.
[00:13:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Or or as the kids say, it's sus. So Yep. It's, whereas my daughter likes to say, sussy bacca. But, I really don't even know what that means, but, you know, she says it. So it's a Hey. You know? That that's what kids are for. Those cute little sayings. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. So but he seems to be an instigator of sorts. So, you know, it's like and he's pro Palestinian. So, yeah, it's free speech. So I understand that, and I'm kinda on that side, but it's also Mhmm. He seems to be going against our interests. So it kinda seems and he's just an immigrant. So, technically, he he's not a citizen yet. So yeah.
[00:14:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's a complicated situation. But, yeah. You know, that that's that's the one thing about free speech that kind of it's kind of a gray area. Mhmm. If you're not a citizen of The United States, we can revoke we can revoke your your status here very quickly and very easily for anything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Including for what you say.
[00:14:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter.
[00:14:38] Jesse Fries:
Like I remember I I think that the the part that about the part where free speech comes in is we can't arrest you for what you can say, but we can kick you the hell out. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's the thing. It's
[00:14:50] Jesse Fries:
it's two different systems. Yeah. You know? So, you know? You know? So, yeah, I I I I'm always torn with that because I I believe in free speech and everything like that Yes. Yes. Completely. But then also, the state department, under the rules of the land, they can pretty much do whatever they want with that.
[00:15:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And, you know, the with with true free speech where anything and everything can be said, you know, you could have a someone from China come over and start spouting all sorts of, you know, the communist beliefs and stuff like that and trying to subvert the nation by what they
[00:15:33] Jesse Fries:
say. And we should have the right to kick them out. No. Yeah. Yeah. We do. Or even not let them in. It doesn't matter. You know? It's like there have been protests in The US where, like, a Canadian will come up to the border and say, well, I'm going to the protest. The immigration guys go, no. You're not. Have fun in Canada.
[00:15:51] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's
[00:15:52] Jesse Fries:
and I think the same has been done with Americans, like, during, like, that trucker's rally that they had up there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm sure it did. Yeah. I I I bet some people they they told, the immigration if they told the immigration, the customs, yeah. I'm good at a protest. Yeah. No. You're not. So Yep. Then the other funny one, the one that some people call, like, is causing a constitutional crisis and everything like that. Yeah. That all comes from, this Salvadorian, guy. I can't even I don't even know what his name is. But, basically, he was sent they they suspect him of being in MS thirteen.
Like, the Democrats and his wife say, no. He wasn't part of MS thirteen, but the government are saying he was part of MS thirteen, and so and so forth. And so he was sent down to the prison in El Salvador, you know, because the president there said, well, yeah. I'll take all your guys. It doesn't matter. Yep. From any country. He doesn't care what country they're from. He'll just take them in. Yeah. But in this case, he's actually Salvadorian. Yep. So it's not another country citizen.
[00:17:08] Jesse Fries:
No. It's not.
[00:17:10] Jesse Fries:
So when it comes to that so so the Salvadorian president went up to the White House. Right? Mhmm. And they had a nice little chat with Trump, and the, reporter asked him about if he's gonna return this guy because the Supreme Court said it needs to be facilitated or something like that. It wasn't that you actually have to return it. You just have to facilitate it as what the court said. Right. And and the El Salvadorian president was, like, going, no. I'm not sending them back. I'm not sending back one of our citizens to illegally enter The United States.
Yeah. And he also said he's a known terrorist. So so whether or not he's a that that's what the president said. So
[00:17:53] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean, you would you know, I I saw one comment about this talking about how you would think that the El Salvadorian pre president would have a lot more information about this gang, about MS thirteen, and would would know a lot more potentially than we do. Right.
[00:18:13] Jesse Fries:
And he's keeping him locked up. Well, yeah. See see, I'm not sure if he'd have any more information about this one guy, but possibly so. But I don't think he care that that president doesn't care. He does I don't think they have a due process or anything over there. He just locks these guys up if it's suspected. And the crime rate in El Salvador has just dropped, like Oh, insanely soon.
[00:18:39] Jesse Fries:
One thing that, you know, what I found find interesting, though, is, there was a report that part of the evidence that this guy was part of, MS thirteen Uh-huh. Is that he was he was taking part in gang activities in New York. Uh-huh. And his family and his lawyers are saying that's not possible. He's never lived in New York. He's always lived in Massachusetts. Uh-huh. Because you Like, that's very far away. That's a ten minute drive for some people.
[00:19:16] Jesse Fries:
Well, maybe not that close, but
[00:19:19] Jamon Fries:
that way it is close.
[00:19:23] Jesse Fries:
Ten minutes, dude.
[00:19:24] Jesse Fries:
Pretty damn close to it. I mean, you you can get into New York City pretty quickly from Mass from Massachusetts. It's not where he's from. I don't know exactly where he's from.
[00:19:37] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Well, let let let let's see what the Apple Maps says it Wait. No. It's it says he's from Maryland. Oh, Maryland. Okay. Let's see. Yeah. Let's see. From let's let's say Baltimore. There you go. Yeah.
[00:19:55] Jesse Fries:
That's maybe half hour drive, I think.
[00:19:57] Jesse Fries:
Maybe an hour perhaps. Let's see. Oh, I forgot. I did. Boston. New York. New York. New York. No. That's a three and a half hour drive. Oh, okay. Might be able to take off half hour. But, it's
[00:20:20] Jesse Fries:
nothing to do and you're a gang banger, you know, I mean, it's not a It's all just in the area anyways. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And and he could have been in different areas and whatnot. But yeah. I mean, either way, you know, it's When when you're when you're a gang member or a mafia member, you go where your bosses tell you to go. Even if Yes. You do. Yes. Across halfway across the country, you still go.
[00:20:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's also it's not actually that he's a gang member. It's affiliated. That's the only thing that actually matters with this. It doesn't say that Yeah. He is a gang member. It says that he's affiliated with a gang. And that in and of itself is good enough to get kicked out. So Yeah. And when when I first when I first saw the when I first heard about the story, I saw articles talking about how he had gang tattoo the MS thirteen thirteen tattoos too. Right.
[00:21:11] Jesse Fries:
Now I haven't heard anything I haven't heard anything about that since. So I'm not sure if that story was accurate or not, but, you know, the there's it's it's more rely I would I would be more comfortable to be on the safe side and say send him away Right. Than believe his lawyers and his family members who don't want him to go. No. I understand that. Yeah. Completely. Completely. I I I still remember
[00:21:42] Jesse Fries:
From what I understand, he there is a deportation order for him anyways. He had there was a deportation order anyways. It was just that he was caught up in this other one. Yeah. From what I understand, he had a deported or order anyways. This was what the, administration guy was saying. There's already order there. So, basically, if we bring him back to The United States, administration is saying We're just gonna send him we're just gonna have to send him right back. We're just gonna bring him in, put him in detention, and then deport him. That's all we're gonna do anyways. So so what does it matter Yeah.
With this And he's in El Salvador. To El Salvador,
[00:22:23] Jesse Fries:
and he'll get put back into the same prison, probably. It's it's it's kinda like this
[00:22:29] Jesse Fries:
circular story situation. It's like Yeah. This guy's just screwed. He's just screwed. That that's that's the only thing about it. He's screwed.
[00:22:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Well, you know, to me, the reason for him fleeing El Salvador that they get Right. Is also problematic. Uh-huh. Because, you know, we used to live in Minnesota. Uh-huh. And I don't know how many times I heard about how the Californian gangs made it to Minnesota. Right. Right. Right. They made it to Minnesota because the parents were fleeing the gangs, but the kids were already in the gangs, and they brought them over, and the kids started the the new gangs here. Right. Well, this guy's excuse for fleeing El Salvador was that he was fleeing the gangs. I mean, this is a story I've heard so many times.
[00:23:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And not only that, but the gangs have been locked up. So Yeah. Just so you can go back. Yeah. And and not have a problem now.
[00:23:36] Jesse Fries:
Unless you're gone, so you're safe now if you're not a member and you've been working for your life. Exactly. So go back to El Salvador. You know? Yep. I heard it's a beautiful country. So, you know, it's, Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well and it now has from what I've heard, it also has the, lowest crime rate in the Western Hemisphere. It does. It does. So, you know, there you go. Nice, safe
[00:23:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Place to be if you're not locked up in the prison.
[00:24:02] Jesse Fries:
If you're not part of the gang, it's the same place to be. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[00:24:07] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yeah. No. But, apparently, Democrats are are willing to die on this mound. It's hilarious. It's Yeah. There there is a what is it? Is I think it's a senator. Whatever. There's a whole bunch of, Democratic lawmakers that are planning a trip down to El Salvador to talk with them to try to get this guy released. So Yes. But they're they're not they're not,
[00:24:31] Jesse Fries:
in the federal government. They're Maryland they're they're Maryland state people who have no reason to be going overseas for anything.
[00:24:42] Jesse Fries:
No. This said senator Chris Van Hollen announced that he's going to travel.
[00:24:50] Jesse Fries:
Oh, did he join in? Because there were, like, three Maryland, senators that were gonna go down there Right. Right. Maryland senate. So maybe maybe somebody from the fed from from the federal decided to join them too.
[00:25:05] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's what yeah. I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Some of the feds are starting to get involved, but I I don't under the Democrats trying to die on this hill. It's like, why are you trying to bring them back? These these are illegals aliens no matter what. So they're gone. What I I don't understand be beyond that. You know? It's Yeah. And most of the public, from what I understand, the polls show that, everybody likes what Trump's doing immigration wise. So Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Other things like tariffs and everything like that, not so much. But Right. Right. But but when it comes to immigration, I think pretty much most people are on Trump's side, and we don't want this unfettered
[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:
thing going on. So you know? Well and and, you know, especially they don't want I mean, you know, the more the more the Trump administration come goes out and says, we're we've deported this guy who committed these crimes in The United States. We deported we're deporting this guy who created who committed these crimes in The United States. Uh-huh. And they're not little crimes. You know? They're murder. They're rape. They're, you know, child child, child pornography and stuff like that. I mean, these are not little crimes.
[00:26:35] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.
[00:26:37] Jesse Fries:
They they they are not So, yeah, we don't want them here.
[00:26:42] Jesse Fries:
No. We don't. We don't. So yeah. I don't know why they It seems like to be a bad move on their part, but It really does. Yeah. They're they're sticking with it. So Nope. But, yeah, the the Trump also wants to figure out if he could send US citizens to foreign prisons. I I think that's a stupid thing, but, you know, it's
[00:27:07] Jamon Fries:
I I just
[00:27:09] Jesse Fries:
I I think that's Trump being Trump. He said, you know, if we can find a way, then we would potentially do it. He Yeah. I highly doubt that he thinks that there's actually a way that he can do it. It's it looks like it'd be to El Salvador too. So Yeah. Yeah. Well, the El Salvador President, you know, he's like, yeah. We can we've we've got plenty of room. We can build a few more prisons.
[00:27:34] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. Be the prison nation of so so it'd be like a modern day Australia. Yes. It would be. It would be. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:45] Jesse Fries:
Ex with one difference. Is that the people would be locked up in cells rather than just be able to freely roam the country.
[00:27:53] Jesse Fries:
Sheesh. The continent. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how long that's gonna last. I really do. I I hope them all the everything that they do and everything like that. But, there's gonna be a jailbreak. I'm just saying. You know? I just
[00:28:07] Jesse Fries:
and it wouldn't be pretty. Oh, it would No. No. It would not be pretty. But, you know, I mean, the the the sad part about all this is is if he was truly innocent, if he wasn't part of the game, if he wasn't affiliated with the game, Then, you know, according to Trump, if he had left the country willingly, he would have been fast tracked on for coming back.
[00:28:34] Jesse Fries:
Well, he yeah. He yeah. He would have been able to come back legally. Yeah. Well, not not just not just could have, but,
[00:28:41] Jesse Fries:
just, not too long ago, he had he had a, did an interview with, can't remember her name from Fox News. And he was in what he said in there was basically, you know, if you if you willingly if you if you willingly deport yourself Uh-huh. We will give you money. We will do the we will do all sorts of stuff for you, and we will help you come back legally quickly. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, if if you go if they if they do this, then they will be they'll basically be on a fast track for legal immigration.
[00:29:21] Jesse Fries:
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. No. See see, the thing is is that okay. Yes. We we we do need the immigration. We do. Don't get me wrong. Yes.
[00:29:32] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely.
[00:29:33] Jesse Fries:
Just make it legal. If we don't have enough, have the congress do something about it. Increase the the number of work visas and stuff like that. Exactly. Just increase those. Plain and simple. Yep. Let let let's keep it legal. You know? It's like Yes. Yeah. Some people always complain about immigration. It's just what is what is. You know? People will always complain about it. But Yeah. Normal people will go, yeah. It needs to happen. We need immigration. It's good. We're we are a land of immigrants in general. So, yeah, let's, let's do this. I don't see a problem with that at all. It's Well, not not It is illegal.
[00:30:12] Jesse Fries:
The the way I look at it is right now, there is so much land in The US that is unoccupied, unused. And so, I mean, we have plenty of space to grow.
[00:30:25] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:30:27] Jesse Fries:
Our current childbirth rate in The United States is not at the point where it can replace the population. Oh, yes. That's a state. We are not at a two point o. We're down at the one point something. Mhmm. So we need immigrants to come in to maintain our population and to grow the population of The United States.
[00:30:49] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So immigration
[00:30:51] Jesse Fries:
is a very important thing, but you have to come here legally, not only for us, but also for yourselves.
[00:31:00] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It gives you protections.
[00:31:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It for for anyone that's here illegally, if they could if they if if they went along with us and willingly left the country and then were allowed to come back as a legal immigrant, it their their life would improve by so much simply because of the protections that they would suddenly have.
[00:31:24] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. No. I agree. I agree. If you're illegal, you're always living on edge. There's always stress involved. Not only that, people could take advantage of you. Yep. You won't get paid as much. Trying to find a job is harder. You you there's so many there's so many reasons why going legal is the best way to do it beyond just being deported out of the country. You know? It's Yeah. There's many different reasons
[00:31:52] Jesse Fries:
why. Well, you know, I When neighbor that was an illegal.
[00:32:00] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:32:01] Jesse Fries:
And she was the nicest person in the world. Never actually met her husband because he was always working. Uh-huh. But her husband, the only jobs he could get was cleaning dishes and restaurants.
[00:32:14] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:15] Jesse Fries:
He was he had a lot of skills that he could not utilize because he was not here legally. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, he'd be able to do much better if he if he could come in with a legal status.
[00:32:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it's it's this story as old as time. You know? It really is. Yeah. Yep. Okay. I think that's enough of immigration. Yeah. Let's see here. Let's go with, tariffs. There's not that much left on it except I must say, last last time we covered tariffs. Right? And then during the freaking show, he he he he he Trump decides to pause freaking tariffs, the ninety day pause on to while we were doing the show.
[00:33:05] Jesse Fries:
Come on. Come on. And we we even talked about the ninety day pause. You know, from everything we're seeing, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen. I know. And then it freaking did.
[00:33:16] Jesse Fries:
God damn it. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, John. You screwed us over on that one. He did. He completely screwed us over on that one.
[00:33:33] Jesse Fries:
He showed us for the absolute unprofessionals that we are.
[00:33:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, I think it's basically if you believe him or the rumors, you know, because sometimes rumors are true and everything like that. Sometimes the story goes out before it's supposed to go out. Yeah. That that sort of thing. That that's what I really think that was. You know? Yeah. It's Oh, yeah.
[00:33:53] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I I I think somebody got wind of it and put it out there before before I put the president wanted to put it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:03] Jesse Fries:
So, basically, every country, if you guys don't know by now, it's been a week. But, basically, every country went down to 10% except for China, because China came after us, which I think Trump probably wanted them to do anyways. But, basically, that went up to, like it it was a few series of steps. It was, like, up to a hundred and one two percent, and now it's at, like, a higher 45%. Yeah. Anything but then there's certain carves out for, like, semiconductors and whatnot. And then there's a question on if that is if the cutout is for iPhones as well or whatnot. I don't know. It's a huge Yeah.
It's a huge It's a tangled mess. It is a tangled mess. It is a tangled mess. And apparently, Apple decided to they they shipped something like I don't know. It was like $2,200,000,000 worth of iPhones from India over to The United States to boost their supply over here. So it's Yep. Yep.
[00:35:09] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That Well, in China in in China and reciprocal brought their tariffs up to a 25% of our on anything coming from The US. Which is Although they they did then announce they did then announce that they are not going to raise the tariffs anymore.
[00:35:26] Jesse Fries:
We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. It's, I don't know. But but, yeah, the 10% is there, and I think that's gonna stay. There's a good chance it'll just stay. That may be what Trump wanted all along was just that 10%.
[00:35:45] Jesse Fries:
It could be.
[00:35:47] Jesse Fries:
And, basically, you don't start with 10% in a negotiation.
[00:35:50] Jesse Fries:
You start with a %. Yeah. And then you bring it down to what you want. So you could be you start with you start with a % and say it's because of the way that you guys do things. Mhmm. Yep. Yep. And then you then when they say, well, you know, we might be able to change some of the stuff that we do, then Then you're like, alright. Well, we'll drop it to 10% then.
[00:36:11] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So it's all kinda crazy. Yep. Yep.
[00:36:18] Jesse Fries:
It's all part of the deal.
[00:36:21] Jesse Fries:
It it it is. It is the art of the deal. Yep. It's, I think that's pretty much all I got on it. So some places are some people in The US are canceling orders in China because the numbers don't equate out and whatnot Yeah. What they wanna sell things for and everything like that. Yeah. Which is fine. But I did hear this great explanation of what how the tariff actually goes. It's like, it's not a tariff on the retail price. Right. It is a tariff on the wholesale price as the item comes across, whatever that price is worth coming across the border. Yeah. So say it's like, retail is a $20 hammer. Right? Mhmm. But it's only a $10 hammer coming across the border. So it would only be a % or say 20% with a 20% tariff. It'd only be 20% on that. So it'd be a a, what, $12.
[00:37:21] Jesse Fries:
Right. So the Which means which means it could still be sold for 20. Exactly. It'd still be a profit
[00:37:28] Jesse Fries:
margin slight slightly. Yeah. Yeah. So it won't cause everything to skyrocket,
[00:37:35] Jesse Fries:
in price. It it'll some prices may go up because the because they're not willing to see their you know, there are some companies that are that have a very, very low profit margin that couldn't afford to let it eat into their profit margin. Well, right. But for the most part, I would almost guarantee that at least a large portion of what comes in from overseas, There's a decent profit margin on on that, and they can easily eat that 10% without a problem.
[00:38:03] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Plus it's a market value sort of situation. Yeah. So it has to be, like, what is the customer actually willing to pay for it? Right. The customer isn't gonna be willing to pay. Even if you have slim margins, if people you you just have to stop that. It's not Yeah. The situation like that. So it's also supply and demand still does rain, you know, and everything like that. But it's also not on the final retail price. Right. Unless if you bought it straight from them, then it would be. Yeah. Yeah. Then that that would be but, that's a different story.
[00:38:39] Jesse Fries:
Right. But yeah. So, like, the parts that have come in for you know, I've I've heard a lot of automobile manufacturers complaining because they think that the prices of parts are gonna skyrocket now. But the prices of parts that they buy from overseas are not gonna become that much more expensive.
[00:38:56] Jesse Fries:
No. Not too much. Yeah. No. Some people were saying, like, the iPhone's gonna go up, like, 300 some odd. You know? Yeah. Yeah. There's a reason why they're, like, dumping bringing stuff over before these tariffs go Yeah. Yeah. Effects and everything like that. Absolutely. And India is on the 10% now. So I'm sure Apple could eat that 10% easy. So it's not Yeah. So so it would be be, like, 10% on, like, a $500 phone, and then they charge sell it to us for, what, 1,200? Yeah. I I I think they could lose that $60.
[00:39:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:39:35] Jesse Fries:
So yeah. That that's terrace. I I I'm kinda bored with the situation, actually. So, you know, it's a Yeah. Yeah. Same here. I know that, people in the market are all scared and fidgety and everything like that, but, you know, that's them. That's okay. I don't care. Yep. Let's see here what else we got. There's Harvard, you know? So Oh, yeah. You you you wanna cover that real quick?
[00:40:03] Jesse Fries:
Sure. That's kind of a really interesting story. So, much like much like with Columbia University, Trump the Trump's administration also sent a liver letter to Harvard saying, you know, you need to stop your misogynistic ways, basically or not misogynist. You need to stop your anti sem semi ways, essentially, is what what it was. And Harvard said no.
[00:40:27] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:40:29] Jesse Fries:
So they have now lost, $2,300,000,000 fund in funding from the government, different grants. Yep. Yep. And they're looking at losing even more up to up to a total of, like, $9,000,000,000 they they get in grants from the government. Yeah. Yeah. And there's I I hear a lot of complaints about this, but there there's two things that I took out of the article that I read. The first one is the government gives them about 9,000,000,000 in grants.
[00:41:03] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:41:04] Jesse Fries:
But they receive about 45,000,000,000 from other about 50 they they receive a total of 54,000,000,000. Uh-huh. So they get about 44,000,000,000 from other sources outside of the government. Do they Right. Really need that 10,000,000,000 from the government?
[00:41:21] Jesse Fries:
No. They they really don't. Plus, they have endowment and everything like that. They Yeah. Said that they're willing to spend, like, a hundred billion dollars fighting this
[00:41:29] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Thing.
[00:41:32] Jesse Fries:
Trump, though, has also said that, he he's thinking about taking away their tax exempt status. Now that would fuck him over. That was my good time. I'm not sure if he can or anything like that. But, basically, that also comes down to they're talking politics. If you actually talk politics, it's just like a church. Yep. A church, if they start talking politics from the pulpit, then they lose their tax exempt status.
[00:41:58] Jesse Fries:
Yes.
[00:42:01] Jesse Fries:
So it's the same sort of situation. You know? It's,
[00:42:04] Jesse Fries:
yeah. You har Harvard is very close to no longer being a educational institution, but being a political institution. I'm not sure. According to some people. Yeah. According to some people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:42:21] Jesse Fries:
I I could see how some people would say that. To to me, it's it's still the best school. It's the first school in The United States. Yeah. So, yeah, they they just have to figure out what they wanna do. Because if they wanna go completely private, that's fine. I don't care. You know? It's like but then also with that, if you think about it, so they also get all this other money from nongovernment sources, they said. Right? But how many of those were actually NGOs that were cut off by USAID?
[00:42:51] Jesse Fries:
No. Now think about it. You know, it it didn't talk about that, but that could be that could be a a pretty good portion of them, though. Yeah. Because
[00:42:58] Jesse Fries:
the the n g these NGOs, supposed NGOs, they were just using government money ran by government people that were just sending all these things out overseas into our schools and everything like that. So Yeah.
[00:43:15] Jesse Fries:
That's a that's a very interesting thought. I didn't think I didn't go that far with it, but, yeah, maybe.
[00:43:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So they might be completely fucked. But, you know, so much of research has been pawned off onto the government to fund lately, like like, in the last thirty, forty years. Instead, it it used to be corporations that would fund. Yes. The government did some, but it was corporations that funded. It it's like so many, like, drug researches
[00:43:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Research. So much of that is funded by the government. It's funded by the government. And then the drug company says, well, we need to charge these high prices because of our costs in researching this. Which I call bullshit. We paid for the cost. Yep. Completely. So you don't get to charge us for the cost of that.
[00:44:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Right? So yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:16] Jesse Fries:
Now the the the one thing that the one thing that I heard that made a lot of sense to me about this was there were a lot of people saying that it was unconstitutional for the for the government to cut the grants, and it was, that the that the government was trying to take over the university by cutting the grant by by cutting the grants and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But the thing is, you know, I'd the argument was this no university has the constitutional right to be funded by the government.
[00:44:53] Jesse Fries:
No. They don't. They do not. It's purely at will. Yep. Yep. Now whether or not you could say he could just cut the funding that the, congress has already doled out, that's a different story, you know. But
[00:45:06] Jesse Fries:
I I still go by my theory. Uh-huh. In order for the government in order for the congress to be able to say that this money has to go to this, they have to have it entered as a line item in the in the budgetary bills.
[00:45:26] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. I can see that.
[00:45:29] Jesse Fries:
If the go if they say if the if the funding that they that they say is just for research Uh-huh. It doesn't have to go to Harvard. No. That is true. That is true. I would I would say that that is true. Yep. So So unless unless the Congress had line items specifically said this money is for this purpose, the president can decide how he's going to spend that money as long as it's towards the things that congress had set. Yeah. I wouldn't see why not. I would not see why not. And considering that we have not actually had a budget pass congress for how long now?
It's always continuous with resolutions. Yep. Yep. You know? I mean, all of this argument about how the how the how the president how the president is usurping congress's control over the money is all bullshit because the congress has not utilized any control over the money.
[00:46:33] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:46:34] Jesse Fries:
I I heard one one person from the house talking about it, and he's like, in order to even get to the point where we can talk about line item is a line item things, we first have to pass something that has not been passed in over forty years, which is a budget. That is They they have they have to they have to first determine how much money they're going to spend before they can start doing the line item stuff.
[00:47:07] Jesse Fries:
That is hilarious. It kinda makes sense. It really does.
[00:47:11] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It it does.
[00:47:17] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Oh, this is the funny one. People some Democrats have gone crazy thinking that Trump's gonna declare martial law on Easter.
[00:47:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[00:47:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I and I don't even know where this came from. I haven't been able to figure out where this came from, where this idea came from. This is this is q a non level crap here, people. This is seriously, like Oh, wow. I I don't know where it comes from. It's just all of a sudden people on TikTok are going, oh, he's gonna do it. He's going to declare martial law on April 20. Why it would be Easter?
[00:47:58] Jesse Fries:
Probably one post from somebody in Canada.
[00:48:02] Jesse Fries:
I know. Right? And it was, like, invoking the Insurrection Act of eighteen o seven. But there's no insurrection. So there Yeah. And why would you base it so far into the future? Because this was this came out, like, at least a week ago. Unless.
[00:48:17] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. Unless they had plans to start an insurrection on Easter.
[00:48:23] Jesse Fries:
Maybe so. Maybe so. I don't know.
[00:48:26] Jesse Fries:
But then Easter's also the only reason that you could, you could use that.
[00:48:30] Jesse Fries:
True. Or you could also say since Easter's on April 20, which is 04/20. You you you you you you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. High day. You know? So it's, well, in America. Nowhere else is it, actually. Only in America. Well, yeah. Because everybody else uses the other dating system. It'd be '20 '4. Oh, that's true. Yeah. '24, '20 '5. We we we we we put the month first.
[00:48:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's only an American holiday. Yeah. Talking about that, I I heard that, there there was a sorry. I I think it was probably a comedy, but it could have been true too. Uh-huh. During World War two, there would be Germany had tried to have spies come over to join to join US troops.
[00:49:19] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:49:20] Jesse Fries:
And in order to find out the spies, they would have them write down the date. Anybody that wrote day, month, year, they knew it was a spy.
[00:49:31] Jesse Fries:
That makes absolutely perfect sense. It really does. Yeah.
[00:49:37] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Except for, like, on January 1 or February 2. There there are certain March. There there's there's one day of every month that it wouldn't make that it wouldn't do. But
[00:49:51] Jesse Fries:
I I would see why that I would not see Yeah. If it makes sense to me. I mean, it it it was meant to be a comedy, but I
[00:49:59] Jesse Fries:
I I don't think that it wouldn't work.
[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:
I I don't see why it wouldn't. I don't see why it wouldn't. Yeah. So, let's see here. Oh, Trump. He signed an executive order to get rid of the low pressure shower heads. Woo hoo.
[00:50:16] Jesse Fries:
Finally. It's like a real shower.
[00:50:19] Jesse Fries:
So so now we we don't have to take out the restrictor when you buy a new shower head. That's basically all it is. Yeah. Because there's a restrictor in there, which is easily taken out taken out if you know what you're doing. Very easily. And so, yeah, all this is doing is just making it so that that doesn't have to be put in. So
[00:50:37] Jesse Fries:
But for the people that didn't know about the restrictor and don't know how to take it out, you can go buy a shower head now, and your your water pressure should improve. Exactly. Exactly. Well, mine mine here where I live won't because I have low water pressure here. Oh, okay. Okay. So
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
well, you're just screwed then. You're just screwed. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. The last story on the political level, is, so governor Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan. She's a Democrat. So she went to talk to Trump about I can't remember exactly what or anything like that. But, basically, she went to talk to him and everything like that, and she was told that they were gonna have, like, a one on one meeting in the Oval Office with him. And so she goes, cool. Because, you know, she she is in a swing state, and he is the president. So you have to deal with him and everything like that. So it it makes sense. It's a smart play for her to actually do this because especially her because, there's a lot of rumors that she, will run-in 2028.
[00:51:39] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:51:40] Jesse Fries:
For president. But then Trump really just side blasted her. It was hilarious. So instead of a one on one meeting with her Yeah. It was a presser. So the entire press corps was in the Oval Office with her, and he was signing executive orders and shit like that. And and there which there she was in the background, and she was
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
Oh, I can imagine.
[00:52:12] Jesse Fries:
There's just one picture of her actually hiding behind her folder.
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
It's hilarious.
[00:52:21] Jesse Fries:
But she's been she's being attacked by the Democrats like nobody's business. Like, what the hell were you thinking? Why were you there? How dare you? So let's see if this, sidetracks the 2028. But, it's it was
[00:52:37] Jesse Fries:
really it was a it was pure genius on Trump's part because he's good. Oh, yeah. So so that's like a rival,
[00:52:43] Jesse Fries:
at least for Vance. I don't know if he really wants to run again, but at least for Vance or some for a Republican, that might actually have a good chance because she's governor of Michigan.
[00:52:54] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:52:55] Jesse Fries:
So he just that's her. I bet he set that up. Just don't fuck with her. I really think he Very possibly. I thought that was He does do, like, do stuff like that from time to time. He does. He does. It was a it was a purely political move. It was hilarious.
[00:53:15] Jesse Fries:
That's awesome. Uh-huh.
[00:53:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Let's see. Oh, IRS, they are losing about 20% of their workforce.
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:53:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Because the treasury department, like, a week ago or so, they sent out another offer, a buyout offer. And it was just the treasury department that sent out a buyout offer. And, at first, it was only, like, 7% of the IRS or maybe, like, the first round. You know, that first round where there's a buyout? Right. Yeah. Only 7% of the IRS, decided to go for that. But then this time around, like, 20% of the IRS has actually taken them up on the offer. So interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So that should be crazy. But then, you know, it's funny. It's like everybody was like, oh my god. We are going to not get our tax refunds because of all this blah blah blah. Right?
[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:
I'm pretty sure those are pretty much all automated anyways. Well, yeah. Because I I we we we got a whole $300
[00:54:27] Jesse Fries:
back, you know, so so so we're rich now.
[00:54:30] Jesse Fries:
You know? Wait.
[00:54:31] Jesse Fries:
I got that within, like, a week, week and a half. Oh, yeah. And they were saying, oh, yeah. It could take, like, thirty, sixty days or something like that. Then I'm going, okay. Whatever. But, yeah, it's like yeah. So it's not gonna stop anything. So
[00:54:46] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It it's much like Social Security. If, you know, it used to be the biggest argument to for stopping a government shutdown was because Social Security checks wouldn't be sent out. Right. Right. Now it's automated.
[00:55:02] Jesse Fries:
I still hear people trying to make that argument, and I'm like You mean Biden? Biden? Did you see that he gave a speech on that? Yeah. I
[00:55:12] Jesse Fries:
I'm I'm like, yeah. No. Nothing you do can stop those checks from going out. No. Nothing.
[00:55:21] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely nothing. It's, maybe a nuclear bomb, you know. That's about it, you know. It's like Yeah. You you you
[00:55:28] Jesse Fries:
actually, there there is one thing. Uh-huh. You could completely wipe out the Social Security Administration servers.
[00:55:37] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There is that. That would be the one thing that would stop it. That that is the one thing that would stop it. Yeah. Just put that on the list.
[00:55:45] Jesse Fries:
Guess government shutdown, they would have to you know, eventually, they might have to shut the power to the building down. So they they, I mean, they they could affect it in that way, but
[00:55:56] Jesse Fries:
yeah. No. It's not You know that that is rather when you think about it, it is rather funny because government keeps growing and growing and growing, but automation and computers keeps getting better to the point where it should actually take less people to do the same jobs. It should it should take much less people to do the same jobs. So I don't see yeah. No. I I I I have no problem. It's just a scare tactic on the Democratic part is how I've learned it. So You know, the the one thing that I would love to see happen
[00:56:32] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. Is talking about the IRS. If they would design an AI to audit the taxes and then only bring in key I mean, because you can program an AI to look for specific things. Right. Right. Right. That's an interesting thought. Yeah. So if you had AI look through look through it for fraud and stuff like that, you'd have much less instances of false brief of false, you know, things happening. Right. Right.
[00:57:06] Jesse Fries:
But you'd also catch a lot more of the stuff that is going on. Yeah. I know. Yeah. One would think. Yeah. Have you seen the memes where it's like so taxes. What it is is that the government knows how much you owe. You don't know how much you owe, but they won't tell you, so you have to figure out how much you owe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, come on. So yeah. It makes sense. You know? It's and then HR and our block is saying they're gonna use start using AI in their Yep. Software. So it's like, then we can just have one AI talk to the other AI. Yeah. And then just go.
And and there you go.
[00:57:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, you know, why don't you make it even easier? Since the IRS knows exactly how much money we make Uh-huh. Why don't they tell us how much we owe? And then if we if we have deductions and stuff like that, then we can file a tax form to to take those deductions out of how much we owe. Yep. Yep. Wouldn't that just make a lot more sense and make life a whole lot easier for so many people?
[00:58:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But it would also get rid of a whole category of accountants.
[00:58:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. See, I don't really have a problem with that because that category of accountants doesn't need to be as big as it is.
[00:58:26] Jesse Fries:
No. I I I I I I'm right there with you. Yeah. But I I I think that's why. It's like the Yeah. The tax lobby, tax accountant lobby is very good. We can't do that, man. We can't do that. It's just like if we get rid of income tax, oh my god. Just think so many people would be out of jobs. I'm all for it too. Yeah. Absolutely. Same here. Yeah. Maybe I could hire them to cut my grass. I'd have I'd save that much money.
[00:58:53] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:58:55] Jesse Fries:
Well, you know, I mean, talking about AI, the, federal government is the the White House is making some changes. Uh-huh. They are implementing AI for federal employee records now. Oh, okay. Rather than rather than doing all manual, they are, utilizing AI for it. The goal they're not, you know, that that mine that that we talked about a while back. Yeah. Where all the government records are stored. Mhmm. They're not gonna get rid of that. They're still gonna maintain those paper records. Okay. But they are going to not add any new ones to it. Because even now, nothing is fully processed until a paper record goes into that mine.
[00:59:39] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus.
[00:59:41] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Yeah. So to fast track, like so is that that's why if you work for the government, it takes about three to six months for your resignation to be processed.
[00:59:53] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. So that's three to six months of pay.
[00:59:58] Jesse Fries:
Three to six months of pay, yes, after you've resigned.
[01:00:03] Jesse Fries:
It's not a bad deal, you know. It's not
[01:00:07] Jesse Fries:
for them, but, you know, it's money that shouldn't be going out. Yep. Yep. And so so they're, looking at implementing AI so that that resignation process will take less than a second.
[01:00:21] Jesse Fries:
That'd be nice. That would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's see here. Oh, looks like Ted Cruz is actually he he's doing something I actually like. I usually don't like Ted Cruz overall even though he's my son. Right. But but, anyways, he he is actually getting a panel together to go over the idea of a permanent daylight savings time situation. As in, not necessarily he's trying to figure out if we should go with, like, a permanent savings time or permanent, standard time is what he's trying to do. So Yeah. Instead of changing time halfway through the year. Yeah. Yeah. It's pointless. I hate that. Yeah. One or the other would work better, but I think standard time would just work better because, well, that's how we work as a species is on standard time.
Yeah. Our clocks are based off of that. You know? It's, I I I know golfers and, well, golf places, they want savings time because then people can golf later in the evening. And, seriously, that's their only argument. It's the only argument that I've heard that where it's like, okay. Well, you can make more money. Beyond that, it there's no difference. It doesn't matter.
[01:01:38] Jesse Fries:
Can they make more money? Because, you know, you just go out for a round of golf early in the morning.
[01:01:45] Jesse Fries:
Right. But that's not how it works. You you you know? So I know. They they they make a lot of money in the afternoon. So, you know, it's Yeah. Yes. But that's the only argument for daylight savings. Daylight savings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, it just it makes no sense. And I love evenings. Come on. I love when the sun is setting and everything like that. And the darkness right after that, you know, it's like Oh, yeah. I don't need the sunlight up all the time. I don't want it up all the time. Oh, no. No. Absolutely not. It's like summer evenings. If that could happen earlier, that'd be great. That would be lovely. I would really, really love that.
[01:02:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Although, I would also be happy if winter evenings were later. I don't like when it starts getting dark at 04:30.
[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:
I see that. I see that. But, see, the problem with that is that the daylight is so short that they actually tried that. They tried daylight savings time, like, permanently back in the seventies. Yeah. It caused a problem. Do you know what the problem was? What's that? Kids were being hit by cars going to the school bus. Yep. Because it's dark. You can't see the kids. So
[01:03:02] Jesse Fries:
yeah. That to me, that life and safety, I'm sorry, that wins, trumps everything. Yeah. That that was that was the one argument that was the one and only argument for keeping the daylight savings time as we have it now that actually had any meaning to me. No. The rest of the arguments were just, like, useless arguments. But for the safety one however, I will say this. It's easy to fix even without changing the clock.
[01:03:33] Jesse Fries:
Have the school start different times? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Yeah. No. No. No. That that that's it's that's not how it's gonna work because businesses would have to change. Everything would have to change. And you might as well just change the clocks then. It it may no.
[01:03:49] Jesse Fries:
I understand your logic, Jay, but no. Especially elementary kids. You you can't Well, see, no. I'm You can't just go to what I'm saying though. No. I I I know that. But, you know, if if schools started a little bit later in the day Uh-huh. From the whole time that they're going. Oh, yeah. So it would it would I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. You don't you don't kids don't have to come home at two, 03:00 in the in the afternoon.
[01:04:19] Jesse Fries:
Well, high school around here gets out closer to five. It's, like, four something. Okay. So it's kinda crazy. It goes yeah. But then they go after elementary. It's elementary goes first, and then it's middle school, and then it's, high school. It's like reverse of every place else I've ever lived. It's kinda weird.
[01:04:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean, you know, it it's like, in you know, if if you've already got schools starting at different times of the day anyways. You know, the the school bus it like, when we were growing up, the school bus for the high school kids came at a certain time. Oh, yeah. And then the school bus for the elementary kids came at a certain time because it's different schools. Yep. Yep. And so, you know, it it wouldn't be a problem to start a little bit later and said the home the kids home a little bit later. No. No. I understand. Especially especially for, like, elementary. You know, high school high school kids, if you get hit by a car in the dark, it's because your it's just fucking off. You know?
Let the let the high let the high school kids jump on the bus when it's when when it's still dark. But elementary kids but elementary school kids children. I am, but I don't really consider high school No. I understand. Really much of a child. But, you know, but even but now, kids come home at two the kids from elementary and middle school come home at two, three o'clock in the in the afternoon. Their parents don't get off work until five. No. I understand that. I understand that. There there's so much that I I know. Have the the latchkey kids. You know? That that's a term that I used to hear so frequently.
[01:06:01] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Our generation was that, Yeah. Well, for the ones that had working moms. So our our mom didn't work. But, right. Yeah. Yeah. No. I I completely understand that. Let's see here. Here at the Mindless Meandrin's, we are a value for value metal model. That means, that you guys are the producers. So if you could help us out in any way, time, talent, treasure, that'd be cool. If you have ideas for the show, things that we should cover, you can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com, or you can email jamen at jamen at, mindless meandrogens dot com.
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Yes. It is. Let's see here. What else do do we have? Interesting
[01:07:19] Jesse Fries:
story is Uh-huh. The FDA. And this should be a story that liberals would love.
[01:07:27] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[01:07:28] Jesse Fries:
The FDA has decided to phase out a lot of their animal testing.
[01:07:34] Jesse Fries:
Interesting.
[01:07:36] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. They are they are for two reasons. You know, one, of course, for the animal. But the other one, because testing on animals does not really this it it it doesn't show that doesn't necessarily show that something's safe for a human or not. Right. Right. And so what they've decided is what since technology's improved so much, they can actually grow artificial organs Uh-huh. In a petri dish of sorts. And so they're going to use those. They're gonna grow those to test the the drugs and see the effects on, like, a heart or the lungs or the kidney and stuff like that. That is cool. They're also going to step into AI a lot a lot more heavily.
Right now, the FDA does not accept AI findings as to what the possible outcomes would be Uh-huh. As proof of as proof of safety. They're going to start, implementing that possibility in there more, though. Oh, that's cool. Well, that is kinda cool.
[01:08:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Let's see. National news, beyond that, let's see here. So you remember that second attempt on Trump's life? Do you remember that? Yeah. So, apparently, he had messaged, a u somebody in Ukraine to try to get a RPG to actually take down Trump's plane. So the
[01:09:13] Jesse Fries:
Wow.
[01:09:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had also gone over to Ukraine to fight for him, and then they didn't want him. And so they sent him back and everything like that. Right. He was just a delusional guy. He he was he he's the guy, if you remember, he was, like, hanging out at Mar a Lago, behind a bush. Yeah. And the Secret Service, saw his barrel or something like that. So Yep. Yeah. Just another It wasn't actually at Mar A Lago.
[01:09:37] Jesse Fries:
It was close. It was it was at one of his golf it was at at his golf resort. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think which is Mar A Lago. But yeah. It's, it's down there. Anyways, close enough. Yeah. He turned down so many golf so many golf courses. And, it could have been the one at Mar A Lago, but it could have been another one in Florida too. Oh, yeah. And then you had the Wisconsin teen who killed his parents,
[01:10:02] Jesse Fries:
so that he could actually afford to assassinate Trump. So there does he do with that? So yeah. Yeah. He he's like a 17 year old kid. This kid seems really disturbed. Yeah. Well and and it was his mom and his stepdad. So sometimes when there's sort some sort of break, they can cause issues. But, Yeah. This kid, he was in contact with people, to get drones and whatnot to help assassinate Trump. So there might be more arrests involved in this, unless if these were undercover FBI agents.
[01:10:45] Jamon Fries:
I'm just
[01:10:47] Jesse Fries:
just saying, you know, I haven't heard any other arrests. So it could be, just the FBI setting somebody else up, and then the kid took it too far by killing his mom and stepdad. You know? I don't know.
[01:11:03] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. You know, with with other things that I've heard that the FBI might have been involved in, you can't really put it past them to have done something like that. Right. Where's the other arrests? Just saying. Yeah.
[01:11:16] Jesse Fries:
It seems a bit hinky on that one. So it's
[01:11:22] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's like, you know, go ahead way way back the Oklahoma City bombing. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. You know, two people got arrested, but you know there were a hell of a lot more than two people involved in that. Possibly so. I haven't really researched that one that much. I know, how some people view. So According according to all of the reports, Timothy McVeigh was part of a militant group. Uh-huh. But only two people got arrested. Yeah. No one else in the militant group got arrested. And supposedly, the militant group was the one that was planning everything that did everything.
McVay was just the person that went out and did it. So one would think that the rest of them would have been arrested for conspiracy. Possibly so. Possibly so. But no one else got arrested.
[01:12:14] Jesse Fries:
That is kinda iffy. Yeah. No. All that stuff is a bit iffy. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that maybe that was when the FBI was still trying to figure out how to frame people so that they can justify their budget. It could be. But they made the mistake of actually going with a real military guy that has his own sources on how to blow crap up.
[01:12:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That knows how to do that shit.
[01:12:47] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. That's just something that you don't have a kid. It it's like the,
[01:12:52] Jesse Fries:
it's on the day of the actual bombing. Uh-huh. The building had an ATF office. Yep. Uh-huh. Yet for some reason, no one in the ATF was in the office that day.
[01:13:03] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's, I I've heard that one too. I've heard that one too. Yeah.
[01:13:11] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. What else we got here?
[01:13:14] Jesse Fries:
Oh, there's that Blue Origin. What's that one?
[01:13:17] Jesse Fries:
That one was just kind of a little puff piece. The the all female crew went up, and they landed safely not too long ago.
[01:13:25] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who was that that that was, like, some not Hoda. Oprah's friend, whatever her name is, I think. Right?
[01:13:37] Jesse Fries:
I'm they had Katy Perry was on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bezos's fiance was on it. And, of course, you know, the the first the they had someone from
[01:13:52] Jesse Fries:
one of the left wing media news reporters was on it. Oh, Gail King. Gail King was on it. CBS Mornings is, who she was. And she's a friend of Oprah's. Yeah. And
[01:14:05] Jesse Fries:
so the the the the funny thing is is the only thing that came out about what they experienced up there was how this just if if everybody could see it, it would just make it so that we would all protect our mother earth so much more fervently.
[01:14:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that that's what they that's what they say and everything like that. But the other funny thing that came out of it, did you see, Bezos face planting?
[01:14:34] Jesse Fries:
I didn't actually see it, but I I saw an article talk the the headline on it. I didn't actually read into it, though. He was walking around the castle. They just went
[01:14:50] Jesse Fries:
that was hilarious. And then you have all these people some people are going, oh, they're astronauts, and then you have these people going, technically, they're not. The government doesn't even recognize them as astronauts. They didn't even go into orbit. They went up into the upper atmosphere and then just came down. They went on a Waymo. That's all they did. And they didn't actually do anything there. They just looked and said, oh, pretty, and then came up. Just like Bezos did the first time he went up. So Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:15:18] Jesse Fries:
An astronaut is someone that goes up into space Yep. Does testing up there. They are scientists more so than anything else. Yep. Yep. So, yeah, they're not astronauts.
[01:15:33] Jesse Fries:
Not at all. Not at all. They're tourists. Exactly. Exactly.
[01:15:38] Jesse Fries:
You know? I wonder if they had a tourist visa. I don't think you'd need one. There's no government. I don't know. They they technically left the borders in The United States.
[01:15:50] Jesse Fries:
Technically, they didn't. They just went straight up and straight down.
[01:15:56] Jesse Fries:
Right over there. I thought they had gone up up to the Arctic. No. It was out of Texas, dude. Out of West Texas. Well, no. I I know it was, but I thought that I thought that I I don't know. I my understanding what what they were talking about when I when I first read about it, when it was was yet to be launched, was that they were gonna go up and it was gonna do, like, a little tiny orbit and bring them back down. No. No over it. No.
[01:16:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Up, down. Okay.
[01:16:25] Jesse Fries:
It it would never was each other red that was gonna reach the base. Polar orbit then.
[01:16:30] Jesse Fries:
I have no clue. It went up and came down. That's all it did. Okay. Then it's nothing. Yeah. It is nothing. It's completely nothing. They they saw the curvature of the Earth or well, if you believe in flat Earth, there is just the disk.
[01:16:44] Jesse Fries:
They saw the rim of Earth. Yeah. Exactly. Or some some of them think the bowl of Earth.
[01:16:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's a different one. But, yeah, I haven't heard that. Some people think that earth is in a bowl. Sure. Why not? Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Let's see here. Let's, we're getting a bit long here. Let's try to parse this down. Let's see. International news. The UK Supreme Court has said that one of their laws that talks about sex and gender, it means biological. So, basically, like, women's spaces over in The UK now are women's spaces only. Biological women's spaces only. Thank you. The feminists have won over there. JK Rowling is the one that really bankrolled this fight.
Yeah. But yeah. So it was based off of, like, a twenty year old law, that, and the Supreme Court says, yeah, that it says sex. That means biological. So mhmm. So that's finally some good news out of The UK. I know. It's it's like the crazy you know, so it's like unlike the other one that came out that, said that they're blocking white people, from actually, applying to be a police officer, in let's see. Where is that exactly? It's a certain, West Yorkshire, police have, said that they will stop hiring white people for now so they can boost the numbers of, minority groups. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're still they're still at it. They're still at it.
[01:18:32] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:18:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Beyond that, that's a China says that they hacked us. That's not really news. We knew they did.
[01:18:43] Jesse Fries:
So China hacks us almost every other day. So Exactly. So it's
[01:18:48] Jesse Fries:
like, okay. They hacked us and, because they don't like us in Taiwan. Okay. Yeah. That works.
[01:18:55] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. So let's get into business a little bit here. Okay. So Figma, I'm sure you've never heard of them. Nope. It's a, tech company Uh-huh. Sent a d c cease and desist letter to Lovable, another tech company Uh-huh. Because they, trademarked the term dev mode.
[01:19:27] Jesse Fries:
Oh, what?
[01:19:31] Jesse Fries:
Yes. They were allowed to trademark the term dev mode.
[01:19:36] Jesse Fries:
It's just short for developer mode.
[01:19:38] Jesse Fries:
Yes. And so Lovable, they they've they've Lovable is a very open source source, thing. Uh-huh. I'd have to go into it to see exactly what they do. Right. But they they they created a dev mode so that you could go so that people could go in and actually alter the source code and stuff like that.
[01:20:06] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[01:20:07] Jesse Fries:
Which is what a dev mode is.
[01:20:10] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right.
[01:20:12] Jesse Fries:
But they're being told now by Figma that they can't actually use the term dev mode for that because they copyrighted it.
[01:20:21] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Switch it to developer mode. I I yeah. You hear that? It's like, okay. Be stupid.
[01:20:27] Jesse Fries:
You know? That's Well, I mean Or fight it, I guess, if you will have the money to waste. But They they don't really have the money to waste, so they'll probably end up, changing it to developer mode. Yeah. Or something. Yeah. The the thing is is, I mean, you know, fig it it it's much like with songs. Uh-huh. You know, there were people that tried to copyright certain chords that they played in their songs. Yep. But if you look look at the music from, like, a hundred, two hundred years ago, they were using these chords too. Yep. Yep. So much much like dev mode, it's a publicly used term. It shouldn't be allowed to be corporate copyrighted. The government should never have allowed that to happen.
[01:21:15] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. I completely But they did.
[01:21:20] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Yeah.
[01:21:26] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Oh, NVIDIA, they're Yep. Building a a plant. It'll take about four years to get it up and going. Well, many plants. They're doing one Phoenix, Houston, and Dallas, from what I understand. So Yep. Trump's winning on that one. Getting them to bring stuff in. Yeah. They're gonna start making the AI chips here. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whistleblower that claims Meta helped China develop AI, but maybe. I don't know. To me, that that's a funny story because, she this whistleblower was trying to sell a book. Right? Mhmm. Insider, gossip book about Zuckerberg and Sandberg.
I put that block that book was blocked last month by a judge saying that she can't release it. So now she's testified before Congress. So it was just a money grab in my book. You know? So it's like everything she says is kinda, like, it's suspect. You know? It's Yep. And so yeah. That's, that's how I view that one.
[01:22:37] Jesse Fries:
Well and, now OpenAI, in order to fully utilize OpenAI Uh-huh. You're gonna have to companies are gonna have to verify their ID.
[01:22:53] Jesse Fries:
Oh, fun. Fun. Because they're born in there? Is that it? It's gotta be No. It's
[01:22:58] Jesse Fries:
it's I it's mostly because so many people are using it now, and there is some people are using it for nefarious reasons. And so to prevent the nefarious reasons, they're gonna make you verify your ID first.
[01:23:16] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Sure. Why not? Then they'll just go with another AI system. It doesn't matter. Yes. Exactly. All that. It's like Yeah. Even if you're not doing nefarious, you're like, oh, I'm not doing that. But Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense. Yep. Not make sense.
[01:23:35] Jesse Fries:
And Utah YouTube is, making a daily timer available on that for now. Because I guess there are so many people that start looking at shorts and, you know, the next thing they know, like, five hours has passed. Right. Right. And so they're they've they're putting it in a thing where you can set a time limit on how long you can look at charts. Yeah. And then you'll and then it'll come up with a prompt saying extend, and then you'll just say, yeah. And then you But it but at least but at least that'll tell you that this, you know, that that this amount of time has expired. So, like, if I were looking at charts before the show, you know, the only way that I would know that the show was happening was be would be because you would come on come online and, you know, half hour before a show, like, always, and we'd be like and I'd be like, oh, shit. That's right. The show. But, you know, for people that that are, like, looking at charts before going to work Uh-huh. You lose track of time. I mean, you know Oh, yeah. Yeah. I completely understand.
[01:24:37] Jesse Fries:
Makes absolute sense. Somehow. Somehow. Yeah.
[01:24:42] Jesse Fries:
Meta is also, trying to protect teen accounts now. They're making it so that, they have the it'll pixelate possible nudity and stuff like that on teen accounts.
[01:24:57] Jesse Fries:
So it'll be like Japanese porn? Yes. Exactly.
[01:25:00] Jesse Fries:
And they're they're also they're also, making it so that parents have to allow the they have to check off on allowing the the teen to watch live streams as well.
[01:25:12] Jesse Fries:
Makes sense because, yeah, those can go wrong from what I can understand. Absolutely. I never really scroll through those. But, Let's see here. Anything else we really wanna cover? What's that solar engineering to to cool a planet?
[01:25:34] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. They're they're starting to go off the deep end. Uh-huh. So this was something that was originally brought forward by Newt Gingrich.
[01:25:45] Jesse Fries:
Oh, we're going back then. Okay. Yeah.
[01:25:49] Jesse Fries:
At that point in time, everybody was like, no. That would be the worst thing to do because we'd we can't
[01:25:54] Jesse Fries:
we can't we can't know the consequences of it. Right. Right. Right. Except a movie to talk about it, if you remember.
[01:26:02] Jesse Fries:
Yes. What movie? And so now they're talking, but now it's becoming because the global warming is the the warming is still happening even though we're reducing the amount of c o two. They're afraid that we can't reduce enough c o two to prevent the global warming in time. And so now they're talking about releasing, like, sulfur and stuff like that in the atmosphere to to stop the sunlight the sunlight from getting through. They're talking about putting solar shades up in space to block the sunlight.
[01:26:40] Jesse Fries:
Yep. And and you know something? What was it Highlander two? I think it was Highlander two. That that that was that was the whole premise of the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Is that they they they put a shield around the planet to stop us from overheating, and then it just caused havoc and desolation. And so yeah. So yeah. Leave it be, people. Just leave it be. We're we're we will slowly get to where we need to go. And, anyways, the Earth is greener than it's been in forever in a day because of all the c o two in the atmosphere.
[01:27:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[01:27:20] Jesse Fries:
There is no shortage of food.
[01:27:24] Jesse Fries:
No. And if if you We're fine. The sunlight, we will have shortages of food. Because plants will stop dying. Yeah. Plants will die. Crops will not grow. Yep. Yep. I I'm sorry. But no matter how what you think, you cannot possibly have enough crops grow by use by utilizing sun lamps. I know. I know. It's just stupid. You know? It's
[01:27:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. Mhmm. Let's see here.
[01:28:00] Jesse Fries:
One that I found interesting was, handwriting. Uh-huh. It, makes it so that you can remember better than Yeah. Yeah. Typing does. Studies. Yep. Yep.
[01:28:11] Jesse Fries:
Yep. They've they've said for a while that, like, taking notes by hand is much better than taking notes from a computer in school and everything like that. So Yeah. They they, you know, the article went into about how it's
[01:28:22] Jesse Fries:
a lot faster to type by computer. So, you know, what you what they've recommended is while you're in school is that you take notes by hand, write your papers on computer.
[01:28:31] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right.
[01:28:34] Jesse Fries:
Another one that was really interesting to me though is, memory manipulation. Uh-huh. They have found that now that so far, they've only tested and and and seen areas of improvement on improving memory. Uh-huh. They have not but they they they've tormented that they could possibly reverse some things as well and help you forget certain things. Okay. Okay. So what what they did was they they they put a whole bunch of sensors on some some people's heads Right. And had them had them basically look at words and well, no. This one, they they were bringing up memories. Uh-huh. And so they would they they were watching for the very small neurons that were firing that connected multiple portions of the brain and stuff. Right.
And they found that with that with certain charges that it would bring up the memory. So they've so they started testing it on another group, and they input these charges in while they were remembering something. Uh-huh. And it improves their memory by, like, 30%. Okay. Cool. So they think that this may be a way to treat Alzheimer's.
[01:30:05] Jesse Fries:
That would be cool. That would be cool. But but but you said they're also thinking that they could, like,
[01:30:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. There there's some testing being done to well, not change memories, but to eliminate some memories. So, like, they think for people with PTSD, there is none of that yet. No. So no total recall yet? No. No. No. More, more MIB, White Men in Black, where you can where you can erase the Right. Right. Right. Right. Yep. Okay. But they they, you know, they're they're doing this testing for, like, people with PTSD or, assault victims and stuff like that, sexual assault victims. If they can go in and they can make it so that those memories aren't as vivid and aren't as connected to other good memories.
They think that they may be able to help the, to help some people that have some severe mental issues because of those situations.
[01:31:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense. Let's see here. Well, I I I think I'll I'll I'll just go with, my last story here, and then, we'll be out of here. So, apparently, there there is a tennis match. Right? Mhmm. And this tennis match is in between these two ladies. Harriet Dart, versus Francis, Lois, Boisson. And apparently, at one point, Harriet Dart, she went to the judge and she goes, can you tell her to put on some deodorant? Because holy
[01:31:48] Jesse Fries:
hell. Well, maybe that's why the French always went.
[01:31:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, the French are known for being a bit stinky. They do perfume instead of deodorant. So, you know, there is that. There is that. And with that, thank you for joining us for episode 33 of the Minus Mayan Reeves podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And you guys have a great week.
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, April 16, and we are live with episode number 33 of the minus meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries. And if you are listening to this podcast in The UK, you need to stop, and we will not allow it. Not sure how we'll stop it,
[00:00:39] Jesse Fries:
but your office of communication might come after us or even you if you don't stop now. Oh, wow. And I'm Jamin Freese. And right now, I would much rather be going on to TikTok, I never thought I'd say that, and watching the great moose migration with over 9,000,000 people.
[00:01:01] Jesse Fries:
Oh, the great moose migration. What is the great goose migration?
[00:01:07] Jesse Fries:
So in Sweden, there there's this guy. He set up 30 cameras along the the migration path that the mist take from their winter foraging grounds to the summer foraging grounds. Right. And they just watches 300,000 moose go on this migration. Okay. That that was that was reading one article yesterday, and it was talking about some of the comments where, like, somebody was, like, I gotta go to the bathroom, but a moose might come by when I when I'm at the bathroom, so I can't go.
[00:01:44] Jesse Fries:
So a moose might come by? Yes. A moose.
[00:01:48] Jesse Fries:
So Because there there's there's no guarantee of seeing of seeing a moose at any given time during this because, you know, it's in the forest and, you know, they're it's like a month long migration or something like that. People are fucking stupid. I swear I know. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So I that that's what I'd rather be doing because I'm pretty much
[00:02:14] Jesse Fries:
more important than this. Oh, much more important. Much more important. But, yeah, apparently, when it comes to, the British Office of Communications, apparently, they're going after, like they haven't gone after podcasts. I don't know how you they'd actually stop us for saying anything. But, you know, maybe legally, they're they're trying to go after, like, American companies or other companies. Like, do you know Gab.com?
[00:02:41] Jesse Fries:
Never heard of it.
[00:02:43] Jesse Fries:
It's like a Twitter, but it's a a free speech Twitter sort of thing or text. You you know? So and they truly believe in just free speech. So roughly whatever you say out there, they're just gonna let go, without, moderation. Probably even, like, Nazi stuff, commie stuff, this, that, races, whatever. I I don't think they care. Yep. But, apparently, it it's a US based company too. So it's completely 100% US based. Okay. But they got a letter from, Ofcom, the British office of, communications. And in The UK, they have a law that restricts what you can say online and everything like that. Right. You you know?
And so now they're trying to use that law against foreign companies just because you can get to it from a British computer.
[00:03:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No? Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So Aren't there, like, a lot of international laws that prevent that kind of shit?
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There are. There are International treaties and stuff like that? Yes. There are. But the way they view it is that we can do it because some British are using your site, and so they they say that, they can do it. So Well, you know what they could do.
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What? Since they are a government of censorship now. Uh-huh. They could block that site. You know, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. You you can't go after the people, the US company that's that's sponsoring it and say, you're you you have to change your rules for everyone because we don't like it.
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That's what I'm thinking, just like the Chinese. But if they would do that, do you know what that would prove to everybody?
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Yeah.
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It means they have no free speech. It be even though they say they do, it would mean that they are just as bad as China when it comes to censoring speech.
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Just as bad as China and North Korea and Russia.
[00:05:00] Jesse Fries:
Well, does Russia have a, like, great firewall of China sort of situation?
[00:05:08] Jesse Fries:
I don't think that they do.
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Yeah. So I don't think they do. North Korea They they but
[00:05:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. North Korea, I'm sure, does. Right. I well, I'd be surprised if North Korea has Internet. Well, I'm sure they do a little bit, at least for some people. But The the government officials probably have access to the Internet, but I highly doubt if the normal people do. Right. But, now with with Russia, I was more thinking, you know, that at least Russia does it right. They create laws or say that there are laws in place and just arrest everyone. Well right. Right. But but they don't go after foreign companies. Right. Right. In in instead, if you look at their web if you look at the foreign website, they'll arrest you. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[00:05:59] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. So Gab.com, what they did is, they came up with this whole website. It's UK.Gabb.com. And it says, attention UK visitor detected. The fine notice applies to specifically to users accessing from The United Kingdom. It basically just goes into this whole thing to where Ofcom is saying, where they want information on users and operations of gab.com. And gab.com is going no. They actually said, we know where this leads compelled censorship and British citizens thrown in jail for hate speech. We refuse to comply with this tyranny. So Nice.
Yeah. Yeah. So you yeah. I don't understand this whole yeah. If they don't like it, put up a firewall in your country.
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It's not hard to do.
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Well, I'm sure it's not easy, but, you know, exactly. Yeah. Con considering that even Netflix That's true. Netflix
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can can use your your geographical location determine to determine what kind of stuff you can watch. True. True. You could just have it as, your
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your telecoms just cutting everything off. Your, Internet provider is just cutting everything off. So yeah. Yeah. It's not hard to do it. Yep. Yep. But, yeah, I just find it crazy. You know? It's That is very crazy. Yes. Why are you going after us? You know? It's but, apparently, there are what is it? There are, like, treaties and whatnot involved. And and so Gab has actually gone to through this treaty process. They've filed some cases apparently in US courts, trying to remediate this sort of situation. But Yep. Yeah. It's just crazy. It is crazy.
Yeah. So
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Yeah.
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And then apparently, another site, Kiwi Farms or something like that. It's another crazy place, that you that you can just say whatever you want. You know? Okay. But, Yeah. You know, I don't understand this. Free speech, people. Plain and simple. Let's,
[00:08:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. If you're gonna be a country that claims to have free speech, then you have to actually have free speech.
[00:08:16] Jesse Fries:
You would think. But, apparently, what you can do is you can just go after the companies and say, bad you.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
You know? I don't Well, and, essentially, didn't the US government do that after 2020? Well, even before 2020. With what? Where they worked with a lot of the social media sites on limiting what could be said.
[00:08:41] Jesse Fries:
That is true. That is true. And and it's just messed up. But the difference is is that it's internal. Yeah. You know, it's like our government is going after our companies. Right. Right. To doing this sort of thing. You know? It's Yep. And if you actually set up business in another country, okay, fine. You can they can come after you for that. But if you're just on the website as a company, you know Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:09:10] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolute. It's messed up.
[00:09:14] Jesse Fries:
It is. It is. Let's see here. What else is going on? I guess we could do, what should we cover right now? Should we go with, immigration? Let's get the immigration stuff out of the way. Yeah. Okay. Let let let's go with that. So there's not that much new really, when it comes to immigration. So, basically, the latest, there's the, Mahmoud Khalil. Mhmm. This is the Colombian, University of Columbia student, who is married to a dentist, US dentist. Yep. They're about to have a baby, and he was basically a leader of, the pro Palestinian movements, protests on, the Colombian campus.
Yep. So basically, where the what this is now is let's see. Where are my notes here? So, basically, what this is, it's not where did it go? I have notes on this. I swear. I know I do. Seriously, where is it my notes? Oh, there they are. Okay. So, basically, a judge immigration judge down in Louisiana has said that he can be deported. Okay? But then there's but that's gonna be appealed to the appellate court, for immigration. And then, also, there's federal courts involved, like the New Jersey court. There's been a petition of a habeas petition, basically saying that he shouldn't be in Louisiana, so he should be brought back to New Jersey and everything like that. But since he's in Louisiana, the judge in New Jersey is going, I'm not sure if I have the jurisdiction for this one because habeas has to be filed where they are at.
Yeah. It's it's so it would have to be filed in Louisiana or at least within that district. Right. So it's just a huge messed up thing. The I I checked this guy's Wiki page. I I don't it it seems a bit messed up. I I I don't think I can believe anything on it. It says he has a Algerian mother and maybe a Palestinian father, but it doesn't talk about a father. It looks like he was like a refugee, from, like, Algeria or Syria or this or that. It's a huge
[00:12:01] Jesse Fries:
thing. Yeah.
[00:12:02] Jesse Fries:
And the Wiki page talked about how his parents were, like, asylum seekers from the Ottoman Empire. What a empire that, disappeared in the beginning part of the twentieth century has to do with anything? I yeah. Yeah. They were gone over a hundred years ago, the Ottoman Empire. Yeah. I I don't think his parents were part of the Ottoman Empire. No. I I really don't think so. Really don't think it's even possible. So I mean, great grandparents,
[00:12:33] Jesse Fries:
great great grandparents is a slight possibility.
[00:12:37] Jesse Fries:
Maybe a dad, but definitely not a mom. You you know? Because a dad can procreate up until he dies. So but yeah. I I found that rather odd too. Yeah. But this this guy, he was always working for some UN or some British organization in the the in the embassies and everything like that. So more than likely, he's a spook anyways. He's probably a spy of some sort.
[00:13:04] Jesse Fries:
Most likely.
[00:13:06] Jesse Fries:
At the school he was at in Colombia, the actual specific school is more of a foreign relations, teaching people how to do things. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seems a bit
[00:13:23] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It does that does seem a bit hanky.
[00:13:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Or or as the kids say, it's sus. So Yep. It's, whereas my daughter likes to say, sussy bacca. But, I really don't even know what that means, but, you know, she says it. So it's a Hey. You know? That that's what kids are for. Those cute little sayings. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. So but he seems to be an instigator of sorts. So, you know, it's like and he's pro Palestinian. So, yeah, it's free speech. So I understand that, and I'm kinda on that side, but it's also Mhmm. He seems to be going against our interests. So it kinda seems and he's just an immigrant. So, technically, he he's not a citizen yet. So yeah.
[00:14:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's a complicated situation. But, yeah. You know, that that's that's the one thing about free speech that kind of it's kind of a gray area. Mhmm. If you're not a citizen of The United States, we can revoke we can revoke your your status here very quickly and very easily for anything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Including for what you say.
[00:14:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter.
[00:14:38] Jesse Fries:
Like I remember I I think that the the part that about the part where free speech comes in is we can't arrest you for what you can say, but we can kick you the hell out. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's the thing. It's
[00:14:50] Jesse Fries:
it's two different systems. Yeah. You know? So, you know? You know? So, yeah, I I I I'm always torn with that because I I believe in free speech and everything like that Yes. Yes. Completely. But then also, the state department, under the rules of the land, they can pretty much do whatever they want with that.
[00:15:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And, you know, the with with true free speech where anything and everything can be said, you know, you could have a someone from China come over and start spouting all sorts of, you know, the communist beliefs and stuff like that and trying to subvert the nation by what they
[00:15:33] Jesse Fries:
say. And we should have the right to kick them out. No. Yeah. Yeah. We do. Or even not let them in. It doesn't matter. You know? It's like there have been protests in The US where, like, a Canadian will come up to the border and say, well, I'm going to the protest. The immigration guys go, no. You're not. Have fun in Canada.
[00:15:51] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's
[00:15:52] Jesse Fries:
and I think the same has been done with Americans, like, during, like, that trucker's rally that they had up there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm sure it did. Yeah. I I I bet some people they they told, the immigration if they told the immigration, the customs, yeah. I'm good at a protest. Yeah. No. You're not. So Yep. Then the other funny one, the one that some people call, like, is causing a constitutional crisis and everything like that. Yeah. That all comes from, this Salvadorian, guy. I can't even I don't even know what his name is. But, basically, he was sent they they suspect him of being in MS thirteen.
Like, the Democrats and his wife say, no. He wasn't part of MS thirteen, but the government are saying he was part of MS thirteen, and so and so forth. And so he was sent down to the prison in El Salvador, you know, because the president there said, well, yeah. I'll take all your guys. It doesn't matter. Yep. From any country. He doesn't care what country they're from. He'll just take them in. Yeah. But in this case, he's actually Salvadorian. Yep. So it's not another country citizen.
[00:17:08] Jesse Fries:
No. It's not.
[00:17:10] Jesse Fries:
So when it comes to that so so the Salvadorian president went up to the White House. Right? Mhmm. And they had a nice little chat with Trump, and the, reporter asked him about if he's gonna return this guy because the Supreme Court said it needs to be facilitated or something like that. It wasn't that you actually have to return it. You just have to facilitate it as what the court said. Right. And and the El Salvadorian president was, like, going, no. I'm not sending them back. I'm not sending back one of our citizens to illegally enter The United States.
Yeah. And he also said he's a known terrorist. So so whether or not he's a that that's what the president said. So
[00:17:53] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean, you would you know, I I saw one comment about this talking about how you would think that the El Salvadorian pre president would have a lot more information about this gang, about MS thirteen, and would would know a lot more potentially than we do. Right.
[00:18:13] Jesse Fries:
And he's keeping him locked up. Well, yeah. See see, I'm not sure if he'd have any more information about this one guy, but possibly so. But I don't think he care that that president doesn't care. He does I don't think they have a due process or anything over there. He just locks these guys up if it's suspected. And the crime rate in El Salvador has just dropped, like Oh, insanely soon.
[00:18:39] Jesse Fries:
One thing that, you know, what I found find interesting, though, is, there was a report that part of the evidence that this guy was part of, MS thirteen Uh-huh. Is that he was he was taking part in gang activities in New York. Uh-huh. And his family and his lawyers are saying that's not possible. He's never lived in New York. He's always lived in Massachusetts. Uh-huh. Because you Like, that's very far away. That's a ten minute drive for some people.
[00:19:16] Jesse Fries:
Well, maybe not that close, but
[00:19:19] Jamon Fries:
that way it is close.
[00:19:23] Jesse Fries:
Ten minutes, dude.
[00:19:24] Jesse Fries:
Pretty damn close to it. I mean, you you can get into New York City pretty quickly from Mass from Massachusetts. It's not where he's from. I don't know exactly where he's from.
[00:19:37] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Well, let let let let's see what the Apple Maps says it Wait. No. It's it says he's from Maryland. Oh, Maryland. Okay. Let's see. Yeah. Let's see. From let's let's say Baltimore. There you go. Yeah.
[00:19:55] Jesse Fries:
That's maybe half hour drive, I think.
[00:19:57] Jesse Fries:
Maybe an hour perhaps. Let's see. Oh, I forgot. I did. Boston. New York. New York. New York. No. That's a three and a half hour drive. Oh, okay. Might be able to take off half hour. But, it's
[00:20:20] Jesse Fries:
nothing to do and you're a gang banger, you know, I mean, it's not a It's all just in the area anyways. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And and he could have been in different areas and whatnot. But yeah. I mean, either way, you know, it's When when you're when you're a gang member or a mafia member, you go where your bosses tell you to go. Even if Yes. You do. Yes. Across halfway across the country, you still go.
[00:20:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's also it's not actually that he's a gang member. It's affiliated. That's the only thing that actually matters with this. It doesn't say that Yeah. He is a gang member. It says that he's affiliated with a gang. And that in and of itself is good enough to get kicked out. So Yeah. And when when I first when I first saw the when I first heard about the story, I saw articles talking about how he had gang tattoo the MS thirteen thirteen tattoos too. Right.
[00:21:11] Jesse Fries:
Now I haven't heard anything I haven't heard anything about that since. So I'm not sure if that story was accurate or not, but, you know, the there's it's it's more rely I would I would be more comfortable to be on the safe side and say send him away Right. Than believe his lawyers and his family members who don't want him to go. No. I understand that. Yeah. Completely. Completely. I I I still remember
[00:21:42] Jesse Fries:
From what I understand, he there is a deportation order for him anyways. He had there was a deportation order anyways. It was just that he was caught up in this other one. Yeah. From what I understand, he had a deported or order anyways. This was what the, administration guy was saying. There's already order there. So, basically, if we bring him back to The United States, administration is saying We're just gonna send him we're just gonna have to send him right back. We're just gonna bring him in, put him in detention, and then deport him. That's all we're gonna do anyways. So so what does it matter Yeah.
With this And he's in El Salvador. To El Salvador,
[00:22:23] Jesse Fries:
and he'll get put back into the same prison, probably. It's it's it's kinda like this
[00:22:29] Jesse Fries:
circular story situation. It's like Yeah. This guy's just screwed. He's just screwed. That that's that's the only thing about it. He's screwed.
[00:22:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Well, you know, to me, the reason for him fleeing El Salvador that they get Right. Is also problematic. Uh-huh. Because, you know, we used to live in Minnesota. Uh-huh. And I don't know how many times I heard about how the Californian gangs made it to Minnesota. Right. Right. Right. They made it to Minnesota because the parents were fleeing the gangs, but the kids were already in the gangs, and they brought them over, and the kids started the the new gangs here. Right. Well, this guy's excuse for fleeing El Salvador was that he was fleeing the gangs. I mean, this is a story I've heard so many times.
[00:23:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And not only that, but the gangs have been locked up. So Yeah. Just so you can go back. Yeah. And and not have a problem now.
[00:23:36] Jesse Fries:
Unless you're gone, so you're safe now if you're not a member and you've been working for your life. Exactly. So go back to El Salvador. You know? Yep. I heard it's a beautiful country. So, you know, it's, Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well and it now has from what I've heard, it also has the, lowest crime rate in the Western Hemisphere. It does. It does. So, you know, there you go. Nice, safe
[00:23:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Place to be if you're not locked up in the prison.
[00:24:02] Jesse Fries:
If you're not part of the gang, it's the same place to be. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[00:24:07] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yeah. No. But, apparently, Democrats are are willing to die on this mound. It's hilarious. It's Yeah. There there is a what is it? Is I think it's a senator. Whatever. There's a whole bunch of, Democratic lawmakers that are planning a trip down to El Salvador to talk with them to try to get this guy released. So Yes. But they're they're not they're not,
[00:24:31] Jesse Fries:
in the federal government. They're Maryland they're they're Maryland state people who have no reason to be going overseas for anything.
[00:24:42] Jesse Fries:
No. This said senator Chris Van Hollen announced that he's going to travel.
[00:24:50] Jesse Fries:
Oh, did he join in? Because there were, like, three Maryland, senators that were gonna go down there Right. Right. Maryland senate. So maybe maybe somebody from the fed from from the federal decided to join them too.
[00:25:05] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's what yeah. I yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Some of the feds are starting to get involved, but I I don't under the Democrats trying to die on this hill. It's like, why are you trying to bring them back? These these are illegals aliens no matter what. So they're gone. What I I don't understand be beyond that. You know? It's Yeah. And most of the public, from what I understand, the polls show that, everybody likes what Trump's doing immigration wise. So Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Other things like tariffs and everything like that, not so much. But Right. Right. But but when it comes to immigration, I think pretty much most people are on Trump's side, and we don't want this unfettered
[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:
thing going on. So you know? Well and and, you know, especially they don't want I mean, you know, the more the more the Trump administration come goes out and says, we're we've deported this guy who committed these crimes in The United States. We deported we're deporting this guy who created who committed these crimes in The United States. Uh-huh. And they're not little crimes. You know? They're murder. They're rape. They're, you know, child child, child pornography and stuff like that. I mean, these are not little crimes.
[00:26:35] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.
[00:26:37] Jesse Fries:
They they they are not So, yeah, we don't want them here.
[00:26:42] Jesse Fries:
No. We don't. We don't. So yeah. I don't know why they It seems like to be a bad move on their part, but It really does. Yeah. They're they're sticking with it. So Nope. But, yeah, the the Trump also wants to figure out if he could send US citizens to foreign prisons. I I think that's a stupid thing, but, you know, it's
[00:27:07] Jamon Fries:
I I just
[00:27:09] Jesse Fries:
I I think that's Trump being Trump. He said, you know, if we can find a way, then we would potentially do it. He Yeah. I highly doubt that he thinks that there's actually a way that he can do it. It's it looks like it'd be to El Salvador too. So Yeah. Yeah. Well, the El Salvador President, you know, he's like, yeah. We can we've we've got plenty of room. We can build a few more prisons.
[00:27:34] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. Be the prison nation of so so it'd be like a modern day Australia. Yes. It would be. It would be. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:45] Jesse Fries:
Ex with one difference. Is that the people would be locked up in cells rather than just be able to freely roam the country.
[00:27:53] Jesse Fries:
Sheesh. The continent. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how long that's gonna last. I really do. I I hope them all the everything that they do and everything like that. But, there's gonna be a jailbreak. I'm just saying. You know? I just
[00:28:07] Jesse Fries:
and it wouldn't be pretty. Oh, it would No. No. It would not be pretty. But, you know, I mean, the the the sad part about all this is is if he was truly innocent, if he wasn't part of the game, if he wasn't affiliated with the game, Then, you know, according to Trump, if he had left the country willingly, he would have been fast tracked on for coming back.
[00:28:34] Jesse Fries:
Well, he yeah. He yeah. He would have been able to come back legally. Yeah. Well, not not just not just could have, but,
[00:28:41] Jesse Fries:
just, not too long ago, he had he had a, did an interview with, can't remember her name from Fox News. And he was in what he said in there was basically, you know, if you if you willingly if you if you willingly deport yourself Uh-huh. We will give you money. We will do the we will do all sorts of stuff for you, and we will help you come back legally quickly. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, if if you go if they if they do this, then they will be they'll basically be on a fast track for legal immigration.
[00:29:21] Jesse Fries:
I can see that. I can see that. Yeah. No. See see, the thing is is that okay. Yes. We we we do need the immigration. We do. Don't get me wrong. Yes.
[00:29:32] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely.
[00:29:33] Jesse Fries:
Just make it legal. If we don't have enough, have the congress do something about it. Increase the the number of work visas and stuff like that. Exactly. Just increase those. Plain and simple. Yep. Let let let's keep it legal. You know? It's like Yes. Yeah. Some people always complain about immigration. It's just what is what is. You know? People will always complain about it. But Yeah. Normal people will go, yeah. It needs to happen. We need immigration. It's good. We're we are a land of immigrants in general. So, yeah, let's, let's do this. I don't see a problem with that at all. It's Well, not not It is illegal.
[00:30:12] Jesse Fries:
The the way I look at it is right now, there is so much land in The US that is unoccupied, unused. And so, I mean, we have plenty of space to grow.
[00:30:25] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:30:27] Jesse Fries:
Our current childbirth rate in The United States is not at the point where it can replace the population. Oh, yes. That's a state. We are not at a two point o. We're down at the one point something. Mhmm. So we need immigrants to come in to maintain our population and to grow the population of The United States.
[00:30:49] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So immigration
[00:30:51] Jesse Fries:
is a very important thing, but you have to come here legally, not only for us, but also for yourselves.
[00:31:00] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It gives you protections.
[00:31:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It for for anyone that's here illegally, if they could if they if if they went along with us and willingly left the country and then were allowed to come back as a legal immigrant, it their their life would improve by so much simply because of the protections that they would suddenly have.
[00:31:24] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. No. I agree. I agree. If you're illegal, you're always living on edge. There's always stress involved. Not only that, people could take advantage of you. Yep. You won't get paid as much. Trying to find a job is harder. You you there's so many there's so many reasons why going legal is the best way to do it beyond just being deported out of the country. You know? It's Yeah. There's many different reasons
[00:31:52] Jesse Fries:
why. Well, you know, I When neighbor that was an illegal.
[00:32:00] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:32:01] Jesse Fries:
And she was the nicest person in the world. Never actually met her husband because he was always working. Uh-huh. But her husband, the only jobs he could get was cleaning dishes and restaurants.
[00:32:14] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:15] Jesse Fries:
He was he had a lot of skills that he could not utilize because he was not here legally. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, he'd be able to do much better if he if he could come in with a legal status.
[00:32:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it's it's this story as old as time. You know? It really is. Yeah. Yep. Okay. I think that's enough of immigration. Yeah. Let's see here. Let's go with, tariffs. There's not that much left on it except I must say, last last time we covered tariffs. Right? And then during the freaking show, he he he he he Trump decides to pause freaking tariffs, the ninety day pause on to while we were doing the show.
[00:33:05] Jesse Fries:
Come on. Come on. And we we even talked about the ninety day pause. You know, from everything we're seeing, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen. I know. And then it freaking did.
[00:33:16] Jesse Fries:
God damn it. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, John. You screwed us over on that one. He did. He completely screwed us over on that one.
[00:33:33] Jesse Fries:
He showed us for the absolute unprofessionals that we are.
[00:33:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, I think it's basically if you believe him or the rumors, you know, because sometimes rumors are true and everything like that. Sometimes the story goes out before it's supposed to go out. Yeah. That that sort of thing. That that's what I really think that was. You know? Yeah. It's Oh, yeah.
[00:33:53] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I I I think somebody got wind of it and put it out there before before I put the president wanted to put it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:03] Jesse Fries:
So, basically, every country, if you guys don't know by now, it's been a week. But, basically, every country went down to 10% except for China, because China came after us, which I think Trump probably wanted them to do anyways. But, basically, that went up to, like it it was a few series of steps. It was, like, up to a hundred and one two percent, and now it's at, like, a higher 45%. Yeah. Anything but then there's certain carves out for, like, semiconductors and whatnot. And then there's a question on if that is if the cutout is for iPhones as well or whatnot. I don't know. It's a huge Yeah.
It's a huge It's a tangled mess. It is a tangled mess. It is a tangled mess. And apparently, Apple decided to they they shipped something like I don't know. It was like $2,200,000,000 worth of iPhones from India over to The United States to boost their supply over here. So it's Yep. Yep.
[00:35:09] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That Well, in China in in China and reciprocal brought their tariffs up to a 25% of our on anything coming from The US. Which is Although they they did then announce they did then announce that they are not going to raise the tariffs anymore.
[00:35:26] Jesse Fries:
We'll see. We'll see. Yeah. It's, I don't know. But but, yeah, the 10% is there, and I think that's gonna stay. There's a good chance it'll just stay. That may be what Trump wanted all along was just that 10%.
[00:35:45] Jesse Fries:
It could be.
[00:35:47] Jesse Fries:
And, basically, you don't start with 10% in a negotiation.
[00:35:50] Jesse Fries:
You start with a %. Yeah. And then you bring it down to what you want. So you could be you start with you start with a % and say it's because of the way that you guys do things. Mhmm. Yep. Yep. And then you then when they say, well, you know, we might be able to change some of the stuff that we do, then Then you're like, alright. Well, we'll drop it to 10% then.
[00:36:11] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So it's all kinda crazy. Yep. Yep.
[00:36:18] Jesse Fries:
It's all part of the deal.
[00:36:21] Jesse Fries:
It it it is. It is the art of the deal. Yep. It's, I think that's pretty much all I got on it. So some places are some people in The US are canceling orders in China because the numbers don't equate out and whatnot Yeah. What they wanna sell things for and everything like that. Yeah. Which is fine. But I did hear this great explanation of what how the tariff actually goes. It's like, it's not a tariff on the retail price. Right. It is a tariff on the wholesale price as the item comes across, whatever that price is worth coming across the border. Yeah. So say it's like, retail is a $20 hammer. Right? Mhmm. But it's only a $10 hammer coming across the border. So it would only be a % or say 20% with a 20% tariff. It'd only be 20% on that. So it'd be a a, what, $12.
[00:37:21] Jesse Fries:
Right. So the Which means which means it could still be sold for 20. Exactly. It'd still be a profit
[00:37:28] Jesse Fries:
margin slight slightly. Yeah. Yeah. So it won't cause everything to skyrocket,
[00:37:35] Jesse Fries:
in price. It it'll some prices may go up because the because they're not willing to see their you know, there are some companies that are that have a very, very low profit margin that couldn't afford to let it eat into their profit margin. Well, right. But for the most part, I would almost guarantee that at least a large portion of what comes in from overseas, There's a decent profit margin on on that, and they can easily eat that 10% without a problem.
[00:38:03] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Plus it's a market value sort of situation. Yeah. So it has to be, like, what is the customer actually willing to pay for it? Right. The customer isn't gonna be willing to pay. Even if you have slim margins, if people you you just have to stop that. It's not Yeah. The situation like that. So it's also supply and demand still does rain, you know, and everything like that. But it's also not on the final retail price. Right. Unless if you bought it straight from them, then it would be. Yeah. Yeah. Then that that would be but, that's a different story.
[00:38:39] Jesse Fries:
Right. But yeah. So, like, the parts that have come in for you know, I've I've heard a lot of automobile manufacturers complaining because they think that the prices of parts are gonna skyrocket now. But the prices of parts that they buy from overseas are not gonna become that much more expensive.
[00:38:56] Jesse Fries:
No. Not too much. Yeah. No. Some people were saying, like, the iPhone's gonna go up, like, 300 some odd. You know? Yeah. Yeah. There's a reason why they're, like, dumping bringing stuff over before these tariffs go Yeah. Yeah. Effects and everything like that. Absolutely. And India is on the 10% now. So I'm sure Apple could eat that 10% easy. So it's not Yeah. So so it would be be, like, 10% on, like, a $500 phone, and then they charge sell it to us for, what, 1,200? Yeah. I I I think they could lose that $60.
[00:39:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:39:35] Jesse Fries:
So yeah. That that's terrace. I I I'm kinda bored with the situation, actually. So, you know, it's a Yeah. Yeah. Same here. I know that, people in the market are all scared and fidgety and everything like that, but, you know, that's them. That's okay. I don't care. Yep. Let's see here what else we got. There's Harvard, you know? So Oh, yeah. You you you wanna cover that real quick?
[00:40:03] Jesse Fries:
Sure. That's kind of a really interesting story. So, much like much like with Columbia University, Trump the Trump's administration also sent a liver letter to Harvard saying, you know, you need to stop your misogynistic ways, basically or not misogynist. You need to stop your anti sem semi ways, essentially, is what what it was. And Harvard said no.
[00:40:27] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:40:29] Jesse Fries:
So they have now lost, $2,300,000,000 fund in funding from the government, different grants. Yep. Yep. And they're looking at losing even more up to up to a total of, like, $9,000,000,000 they they get in grants from the government. Yeah. Yeah. And there's I I hear a lot of complaints about this, but there there's two things that I took out of the article that I read. The first one is the government gives them about 9,000,000,000 in grants.
[00:41:03] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:41:04] Jesse Fries:
But they receive about 45,000,000,000 from other about 50 they they receive a total of 54,000,000,000. Uh-huh. So they get about 44,000,000,000 from other sources outside of the government. Do they Right. Really need that 10,000,000,000 from the government?
[00:41:21] Jesse Fries:
No. They they really don't. Plus, they have endowment and everything like that. They Yeah. Said that they're willing to spend, like, a hundred billion dollars fighting this
[00:41:29] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Thing.
[00:41:32] Jesse Fries:
Trump, though, has also said that, he he's thinking about taking away their tax exempt status. Now that would fuck him over. That was my good time. I'm not sure if he can or anything like that. But, basically, that also comes down to they're talking politics. If you actually talk politics, it's just like a church. Yep. A church, if they start talking politics from the pulpit, then they lose their tax exempt status.
[00:41:58] Jesse Fries:
Yes.
[00:42:01] Jesse Fries:
So it's the same sort of situation. You know? It's,
[00:42:04] Jesse Fries:
yeah. You har Harvard is very close to no longer being a educational institution, but being a political institution. I'm not sure. According to some people. Yeah. According to some people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:42:21] Jesse Fries:
I I could see how some people would say that. To to me, it's it's still the best school. It's the first school in The United States. Yeah. So, yeah, they they just have to figure out what they wanna do. Because if they wanna go completely private, that's fine. I don't care. You know? It's like but then also with that, if you think about it, so they also get all this other money from nongovernment sources, they said. Right? But how many of those were actually NGOs that were cut off by USAID?
[00:42:51] Jesse Fries:
No. Now think about it. You know, it it didn't talk about that, but that could be that could be a a pretty good portion of them, though. Yeah. Because
[00:42:58] Jesse Fries:
the the n g these NGOs, supposed NGOs, they were just using government money ran by government people that were just sending all these things out overseas into our schools and everything like that. So Yeah.
[00:43:15] Jesse Fries:
That's a that's a very interesting thought. I didn't think I didn't go that far with it, but, yeah, maybe.
[00:43:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So they might be completely fucked. But, you know, so much of research has been pawned off onto the government to fund lately, like like, in the last thirty, forty years. Instead, it it used to be corporations that would fund. Yes. The government did some, but it was corporations that funded. It it's like so many, like, drug researches
[00:43:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Research. So much of that is funded by the government. It's funded by the government. And then the drug company says, well, we need to charge these high prices because of our costs in researching this. Which I call bullshit. We paid for the cost. Yep. Completely. So you don't get to charge us for the cost of that.
[00:44:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Right? So yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:16] Jesse Fries:
Now the the the one thing that the one thing that I heard that made a lot of sense to me about this was there were a lot of people saying that it was unconstitutional for the for the government to cut the grants, and it was, that the that the government was trying to take over the university by cutting the grant by by cutting the grants and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But the thing is, you know, I'd the argument was this no university has the constitutional right to be funded by the government.
[00:44:53] Jesse Fries:
No. They don't. They do not. It's purely at will. Yep. Yep. Now whether or not you could say he could just cut the funding that the, congress has already doled out, that's a different story, you know. But
[00:45:06] Jesse Fries:
I I still go by my theory. Uh-huh. In order for the government in order for the congress to be able to say that this money has to go to this, they have to have it entered as a line item in the in the budgetary bills.
[00:45:26] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. I can see that.
[00:45:29] Jesse Fries:
If the go if they say if the if the funding that they that they say is just for research Uh-huh. It doesn't have to go to Harvard. No. That is true. That is true. I would I would say that that is true. Yep. So So unless unless the Congress had line items specifically said this money is for this purpose, the president can decide how he's going to spend that money as long as it's towards the things that congress had set. Yeah. I wouldn't see why not. I would not see why not. And considering that we have not actually had a budget pass congress for how long now?
It's always continuous with resolutions. Yep. Yep. You know? I mean, all of this argument about how the how the how the president how the president is usurping congress's control over the money is all bullshit because the congress has not utilized any control over the money.
[00:46:33] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:46:34] Jesse Fries:
I I heard one one person from the house talking about it, and he's like, in order to even get to the point where we can talk about line item is a line item things, we first have to pass something that has not been passed in over forty years, which is a budget. That is They they have they have to they have to first determine how much money they're going to spend before they can start doing the line item stuff.
[00:47:07] Jesse Fries:
That is hilarious. It kinda makes sense. It really does.
[00:47:11] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It it does.
[00:47:17] Jesse Fries:
Let's see. Oh, this is the funny one. People some Democrats have gone crazy thinking that Trump's gonna declare martial law on Easter.
[00:47:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[00:47:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I and I don't even know where this came from. I haven't been able to figure out where this came from, where this idea came from. This is this is q a non level crap here, people. This is seriously, like Oh, wow. I I don't know where it comes from. It's just all of a sudden people on TikTok are going, oh, he's gonna do it. He's going to declare martial law on April 20. Why it would be Easter?
[00:47:58] Jesse Fries:
Probably one post from somebody in Canada.
[00:48:02] Jesse Fries:
I know. Right? And it was, like, invoking the Insurrection Act of eighteen o seven. But there's no insurrection. So there Yeah. And why would you base it so far into the future? Because this was this came out, like, at least a week ago. Unless.
[00:48:17] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. Unless they had plans to start an insurrection on Easter.
[00:48:23] Jesse Fries:
Maybe so. Maybe so. I don't know.
[00:48:26] Jesse Fries:
But then Easter's also the only reason that you could, you could use that.
[00:48:30] Jesse Fries:
True. Or you could also say since Easter's on April 20, which is 04/20. You you you you you you know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. High day. You know? So it's, well, in America. Nowhere else is it, actually. Only in America. Well, yeah. Because everybody else uses the other dating system. It'd be '20 '4. Oh, that's true. Yeah. '24, '20 '5. We we we we we put the month first.
[00:48:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's only an American holiday. Yeah. Talking about that, I I heard that, there there was a sorry. I I think it was probably a comedy, but it could have been true too. Uh-huh. During World War two, there would be Germany had tried to have spies come over to join to join US troops.
[00:49:19] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:49:20] Jesse Fries:
And in order to find out the spies, they would have them write down the date. Anybody that wrote day, month, year, they knew it was a spy.
[00:49:31] Jesse Fries:
That makes absolutely perfect sense. It really does. Yeah.
[00:49:37] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Except for, like, on January 1 or February 2. There there are certain March. There there's there's one day of every month that it wouldn't make that it wouldn't do. But
[00:49:51] Jesse Fries:
I I would see why that I would not see Yeah. If it makes sense to me. I mean, it it it was meant to be a comedy, but I
[00:49:59] Jesse Fries:
I I don't think that it wouldn't work.
[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:
I I don't see why it wouldn't. I don't see why it wouldn't. Yeah. So, let's see here. Oh, Trump. He signed an executive order to get rid of the low pressure shower heads. Woo hoo.
[00:50:16] Jesse Fries:
Finally. It's like a real shower.
[00:50:19] Jesse Fries:
So so now we we don't have to take out the restrictor when you buy a new shower head. That's basically all it is. Yeah. Because there's a restrictor in there, which is easily taken out taken out if you know what you're doing. Very easily. And so, yeah, all this is doing is just making it so that that doesn't have to be put in. So
[00:50:37] Jesse Fries:
But for the people that didn't know about the restrictor and don't know how to take it out, you can go buy a shower head now, and your your water pressure should improve. Exactly. Exactly. Well, mine mine here where I live won't because I have low water pressure here. Oh, okay. Okay. So
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
well, you're just screwed then. You're just screwed. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. The last story on the political level, is, so governor Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan. She's a Democrat. So she went to talk to Trump about I can't remember exactly what or anything like that. But, basically, she went to talk to him and everything like that, and she was told that they were gonna have, like, a one on one meeting in the Oval Office with him. And so she goes, cool. Because, you know, she she is in a swing state, and he is the president. So you have to deal with him and everything like that. So it it makes sense. It's a smart play for her to actually do this because especially her because, there's a lot of rumors that she, will run-in 2028.
[00:51:39] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:51:40] Jesse Fries:
For president. But then Trump really just side blasted her. It was hilarious. So instead of a one on one meeting with her Yeah. It was a presser. So the entire press corps was in the Oval Office with her, and he was signing executive orders and shit like that. And and there which there she was in the background, and she was
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
Oh, I can imagine.
[00:52:12] Jesse Fries:
There's just one picture of her actually hiding behind her folder.
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
It's hilarious.
[00:52:21] Jesse Fries:
But she's been she's being attacked by the Democrats like nobody's business. Like, what the hell were you thinking? Why were you there? How dare you? So let's see if this, sidetracks the 2028. But, it's it was
[00:52:37] Jesse Fries:
really it was a it was pure genius on Trump's part because he's good. Oh, yeah. So so that's like a rival,
[00:52:43] Jesse Fries:
at least for Vance. I don't know if he really wants to run again, but at least for Vance or some for a Republican, that might actually have a good chance because she's governor of Michigan.
[00:52:54] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:52:55] Jesse Fries:
So he just that's her. I bet he set that up. Just don't fuck with her. I really think he Very possibly. I thought that was He does do, like, do stuff like that from time to time. He does. He does. It was a it was a purely political move. It was hilarious.
[00:53:15] Jesse Fries:
That's awesome. Uh-huh.
[00:53:21] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Let's see. Oh, IRS, they are losing about 20% of their workforce.
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:53:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Because the treasury department, like, a week ago or so, they sent out another offer, a buyout offer. And it was just the treasury department that sent out a buyout offer. And, at first, it was only, like, 7% of the IRS or maybe, like, the first round. You know, that first round where there's a buyout? Right. Yeah. Only 7% of the IRS, decided to go for that. But then this time around, like, 20% of the IRS has actually taken them up on the offer. So interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So that should be crazy. But then, you know, it's funny. It's like everybody was like, oh my god. We are going to not get our tax refunds because of all this blah blah blah. Right?
[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:
I'm pretty sure those are pretty much all automated anyways. Well, yeah. Because I I we we we got a whole $300
[00:54:27] Jesse Fries:
back, you know, so so so we're rich now.
[00:54:30] Jesse Fries:
You know? Wait.
[00:54:31] Jesse Fries:
I got that within, like, a week, week and a half. Oh, yeah. And they were saying, oh, yeah. It could take, like, thirty, sixty days or something like that. Then I'm going, okay. Whatever. But, yeah, it's like yeah. So it's not gonna stop anything. So
[00:54:46] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It it's much like Social Security. If, you know, it used to be the biggest argument to for stopping a government shutdown was because Social Security checks wouldn't be sent out. Right. Right. Now it's automated.
[00:55:02] Jesse Fries:
I still hear people trying to make that argument, and I'm like You mean Biden? Biden? Did you see that he gave a speech on that? Yeah. I
[00:55:12] Jesse Fries:
I'm I'm like, yeah. No. Nothing you do can stop those checks from going out. No. Nothing.
[00:55:21] Jesse Fries:
Absolutely nothing. It's, maybe a nuclear bomb, you know. That's about it, you know. It's like Yeah. You you you
[00:55:28] Jesse Fries:
actually, there there is one thing. Uh-huh. You could completely wipe out the Social Security Administration servers.
[00:55:37] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There is that. That would be the one thing that would stop it. That that is the one thing that would stop it. Yeah. Just put that on the list.
[00:55:45] Jesse Fries:
Guess government shutdown, they would have to you know, eventually, they might have to shut the power to the building down. So they they, I mean, they they could affect it in that way, but
[00:55:56] Jesse Fries:
yeah. No. It's not You know that that is rather when you think about it, it is rather funny because government keeps growing and growing and growing, but automation and computers keeps getting better to the point where it should actually take less people to do the same jobs. It should it should take much less people to do the same jobs. So I don't see yeah. No. I I I I have no problem. It's just a scare tactic on the Democratic part is how I've learned it. So You know, the the one thing that I would love to see happen
[00:56:32] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. Is talking about the IRS. If they would design an AI to audit the taxes and then only bring in key I mean, because you can program an AI to look for specific things. Right. Right. Right. That's an interesting thought. Yeah. So if you had AI look through look through it for fraud and stuff like that, you'd have much less instances of false brief of false, you know, things happening. Right. Right.
[00:57:06] Jesse Fries:
But you'd also catch a lot more of the stuff that is going on. Yeah. I know. Yeah. One would think. Yeah. Have you seen the memes where it's like so taxes. What it is is that the government knows how much you owe. You don't know how much you owe, but they won't tell you, so you have to figure out how much you owe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, come on. So yeah. It makes sense. You know? It's and then HR and our block is saying they're gonna use start using AI in their Yep. Software. So it's like, then we can just have one AI talk to the other AI. Yeah. And then just go.
And and there you go.
[00:57:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, you know, why don't you make it even easier? Since the IRS knows exactly how much money we make Uh-huh. Why don't they tell us how much we owe? And then if we if we have deductions and stuff like that, then we can file a tax form to to take those deductions out of how much we owe. Yep. Yep. Wouldn't that just make a lot more sense and make life a whole lot easier for so many people?
[00:58:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But it would also get rid of a whole category of accountants.
[00:58:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. See, I don't really have a problem with that because that category of accountants doesn't need to be as big as it is.
[00:58:26] Jesse Fries:
No. I I I I I I'm right there with you. Yeah. But I I I think that's why. It's like the Yeah. The tax lobby, tax accountant lobby is very good. We can't do that, man. We can't do that. It's just like if we get rid of income tax, oh my god. Just think so many people would be out of jobs. I'm all for it too. Yeah. Absolutely. Same here. Yeah. Maybe I could hire them to cut my grass. I'd have I'd save that much money.
[00:58:53] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:58:55] Jesse Fries:
Well, you know, I mean, talking about AI, the, federal government is the the White House is making some changes. Uh-huh. They are implementing AI for federal employee records now. Oh, okay. Rather than rather than doing all manual, they are, utilizing AI for it. The goal they're not, you know, that that mine that that we talked about a while back. Yeah. Where all the government records are stored. Mhmm. They're not gonna get rid of that. They're still gonna maintain those paper records. Okay. But they are going to not add any new ones to it. Because even now, nothing is fully processed until a paper record goes into that mine.
[00:59:39] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus.
[00:59:41] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Yeah. So to fast track, like so is that that's why if you work for the government, it takes about three to six months for your resignation to be processed.
[00:59:53] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. So that's three to six months of pay.
[00:59:58] Jesse Fries:
Three to six months of pay, yes, after you've resigned.
[01:00:03] Jesse Fries:
It's not a bad deal, you know. It's not
[01:00:07] Jesse Fries:
for them, but, you know, it's money that shouldn't be going out. Yep. Yep. And so so they're, looking at implementing AI so that that resignation process will take less than a second.
[01:00:21] Jesse Fries:
That'd be nice. That would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's see here. Oh, looks like Ted Cruz is actually he he's doing something I actually like. I usually don't like Ted Cruz overall even though he's my son. Right. But but, anyways, he he is actually getting a panel together to go over the idea of a permanent daylight savings time situation. As in, not necessarily he's trying to figure out if we should go with, like, a permanent savings time or permanent, standard time is what he's trying to do. So Yeah. Instead of changing time halfway through the year. Yeah. Yeah. It's pointless. I hate that. Yeah. One or the other would work better, but I think standard time would just work better because, well, that's how we work as a species is on standard time.
Yeah. Our clocks are based off of that. You know? It's, I I I know golfers and, well, golf places, they want savings time because then people can golf later in the evening. And, seriously, that's their only argument. It's the only argument that I've heard that where it's like, okay. Well, you can make more money. Beyond that, it there's no difference. It doesn't matter.
[01:01:38] Jesse Fries:
Can they make more money? Because, you know, you just go out for a round of golf early in the morning.
[01:01:45] Jesse Fries:
Right. But that's not how it works. You you you know? So I know. They they they make a lot of money in the afternoon. So, you know, it's Yeah. Yes. But that's the only argument for daylight savings. Daylight savings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, it just it makes no sense. And I love evenings. Come on. I love when the sun is setting and everything like that. And the darkness right after that, you know, it's like Oh, yeah. I don't need the sunlight up all the time. I don't want it up all the time. Oh, no. No. Absolutely not. It's like summer evenings. If that could happen earlier, that'd be great. That would be lovely. I would really, really love that.
[01:02:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Although, I would also be happy if winter evenings were later. I don't like when it starts getting dark at 04:30.
[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:
I see that. I see that. But, see, the problem with that is that the daylight is so short that they actually tried that. They tried daylight savings time, like, permanently back in the seventies. Yeah. It caused a problem. Do you know what the problem was? What's that? Kids were being hit by cars going to the school bus. Yep. Because it's dark. You can't see the kids. So
[01:03:02] Jesse Fries:
yeah. That to me, that life and safety, I'm sorry, that wins, trumps everything. Yeah. That that was that was the one argument that was the one and only argument for keeping the daylight savings time as we have it now that actually had any meaning to me. No. The rest of the arguments were just, like, useless arguments. But for the safety one however, I will say this. It's easy to fix even without changing the clock.
[01:03:33] Jesse Fries:
Have the school start different times? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Yeah. No. No. No. That that that's it's that's not how it's gonna work because businesses would have to change. Everything would have to change. And you might as well just change the clocks then. It it may no.
[01:03:49] Jesse Fries:
I understand your logic, Jay, but no. Especially elementary kids. You you can't Well, see, no. I'm You can't just go to what I'm saying though. No. I I I know that. But, you know, if if schools started a little bit later in the day Uh-huh. From the whole time that they're going. Oh, yeah. So it would it would I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. You don't you don't kids don't have to come home at two, 03:00 in the in the afternoon.
[01:04:19] Jesse Fries:
Well, high school around here gets out closer to five. It's, like, four something. Okay. So it's kinda crazy. It goes yeah. But then they go after elementary. It's elementary goes first, and then it's middle school, and then it's, high school. It's like reverse of every place else I've ever lived. It's kinda weird.
[01:04:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean, you know, it it's like, in you know, if if you've already got schools starting at different times of the day anyways. You know, the the school bus it like, when we were growing up, the school bus for the high school kids came at a certain time. Oh, yeah. And then the school bus for the elementary kids came at a certain time because it's different schools. Yep. Yep. And so, you know, it it wouldn't be a problem to start a little bit later and said the home the kids home a little bit later. No. No. I understand. Especially especially for, like, elementary. You know, high school high school kids, if you get hit by a car in the dark, it's because your it's just fucking off. You know?
Let the let the high let the high school kids jump on the bus when it's when when it's still dark. But elementary kids but elementary school kids children. I am, but I don't really consider high school No. I understand. Really much of a child. But, you know, but even but now, kids come home at two the kids from elementary and middle school come home at two, three o'clock in the in the afternoon. Their parents don't get off work until five. No. I understand that. I understand that. There there's so much that I I know. Have the the latchkey kids. You know? That that's a term that I used to hear so frequently.
[01:06:01] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Our generation was that, Yeah. Well, for the ones that had working moms. So our our mom didn't work. But, right. Yeah. Yeah. No. I I completely understand that. Let's see here. Here at the Mindless Meandrin's, we are a value for value metal model. That means, that you guys are the producers. So if you could help us out in any way, time, talent, treasure, that'd be cool. If you have ideas for the show, things that we should cover, you can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com, or you can email jamen at jamen at, mindless meandrogens dot com.
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Yes. It is. Let's see here. What else do do we have? Interesting
[01:07:19] Jesse Fries:
story is Uh-huh. The FDA. And this should be a story that liberals would love.
[01:07:27] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[01:07:28] Jesse Fries:
The FDA has decided to phase out a lot of their animal testing.
[01:07:34] Jesse Fries:
Interesting.
[01:07:36] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. They are they are for two reasons. You know, one, of course, for the animal. But the other one, because testing on animals does not really this it it it doesn't show that doesn't necessarily show that something's safe for a human or not. Right. Right. And so what they've decided is what since technology's improved so much, they can actually grow artificial organs Uh-huh. In a petri dish of sorts. And so they're going to use those. They're gonna grow those to test the the drugs and see the effects on, like, a heart or the lungs or the kidney and stuff like that. That is cool. They're also going to step into AI a lot a lot more heavily.
Right now, the FDA does not accept AI findings as to what the possible outcomes would be Uh-huh. As proof of as proof of safety. They're going to start, implementing that possibility in there more, though. Oh, that's cool. Well, that is kinda cool.
[01:08:48] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Let's see. National news, beyond that, let's see here. So you remember that second attempt on Trump's life? Do you remember that? Yeah. So, apparently, he had messaged, a u somebody in Ukraine to try to get a RPG to actually take down Trump's plane. So the
[01:09:13] Jesse Fries:
Wow.
[01:09:14] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had also gone over to Ukraine to fight for him, and then they didn't want him. And so they sent him back and everything like that. Right. He was just a delusional guy. He he was he he's the guy, if you remember, he was, like, hanging out at Mar a Lago, behind a bush. Yeah. And the Secret Service, saw his barrel or something like that. So Yep. Yeah. Just another It wasn't actually at Mar A Lago.
[01:09:37] Jesse Fries:
It was close. It was it was at one of his golf it was at at his golf resort. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think which is Mar A Lago. But yeah. It's, it's down there. Anyways, close enough. Yeah. He turned down so many golf so many golf courses. And, it could have been the one at Mar A Lago, but it could have been another one in Florida too. Oh, yeah. And then you had the Wisconsin teen who killed his parents,
[01:10:02] Jesse Fries:
so that he could actually afford to assassinate Trump. So there does he do with that? So yeah. Yeah. He he's like a 17 year old kid. This kid seems really disturbed. Yeah. Well and and it was his mom and his stepdad. So sometimes when there's sort some sort of break, they can cause issues. But, Yeah. This kid, he was in contact with people, to get drones and whatnot to help assassinate Trump. So there might be more arrests involved in this, unless if these were undercover FBI agents.
[01:10:45] Jamon Fries:
I'm just
[01:10:47] Jesse Fries:
just saying, you know, I haven't heard any other arrests. So it could be, just the FBI setting somebody else up, and then the kid took it too far by killing his mom and stepdad. You know? I don't know.
[01:11:03] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. You know, with with other things that I've heard that the FBI might have been involved in, you can't really put it past them to have done something like that. Right. Where's the other arrests? Just saying. Yeah.
[01:11:16] Jesse Fries:
It seems a bit hinky on that one. So it's
[01:11:22] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's like, you know, go ahead way way back the Oklahoma City bombing. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. You know, two people got arrested, but you know there were a hell of a lot more than two people involved in that. Possibly so. I haven't really researched that one that much. I know, how some people view. So According according to all of the reports, Timothy McVeigh was part of a militant group. Uh-huh. But only two people got arrested. Yeah. No one else in the militant group got arrested. And supposedly, the militant group was the one that was planning everything that did everything.
McVay was just the person that went out and did it. So one would think that the rest of them would have been arrested for conspiracy. Possibly so. Possibly so. But no one else got arrested.
[01:12:14] Jesse Fries:
That is kinda iffy. Yeah. No. All that stuff is a bit iffy. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that maybe that was when the FBI was still trying to figure out how to frame people so that they can justify their budget. It could be. But they made the mistake of actually going with a real military guy that has his own sources on how to blow crap up.
[01:12:43] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That knows how to do that shit.
[01:12:47] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. That's just something that you don't have a kid. It it's like the,
[01:12:52] Jesse Fries:
it's on the day of the actual bombing. Uh-huh. The building had an ATF office. Yep. Uh-huh. Yet for some reason, no one in the ATF was in the office that day.
[01:13:03] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. It's, I I've heard that one too. I've heard that one too. Yeah.
[01:13:11] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. What else we got here?
[01:13:14] Jesse Fries:
Oh, there's that Blue Origin. What's that one?
[01:13:17] Jesse Fries:
That one was just kind of a little puff piece. The the all female crew went up, and they landed safely not too long ago.
[01:13:25] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who was that that that was, like, some not Hoda. Oprah's friend, whatever her name is, I think. Right?
[01:13:37] Jesse Fries:
I'm they had Katy Perry was on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bezos's fiance was on it. And, of course, you know, the the first the they had someone from
[01:13:52] Jesse Fries:
one of the left wing media news reporters was on it. Oh, Gail King. Gail King was on it. CBS Mornings is, who she was. And she's a friend of Oprah's. Yeah. And
[01:14:05] Jesse Fries:
so the the the the funny thing is is the only thing that came out about what they experienced up there was how this just if if everybody could see it, it would just make it so that we would all protect our mother earth so much more fervently.
[01:14:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That that that that's what they that's what they say and everything like that. But the other funny thing that came out of it, did you see, Bezos face planting?
[01:14:34] Jesse Fries:
I didn't actually see it, but I I saw an article talk the the headline on it. I didn't actually read into it, though. He was walking around the castle. They just went
[01:14:50] Jesse Fries:
that was hilarious. And then you have all these people some people are going, oh, they're astronauts, and then you have these people going, technically, they're not. The government doesn't even recognize them as astronauts. They didn't even go into orbit. They went up into the upper atmosphere and then just came down. They went on a Waymo. That's all they did. And they didn't actually do anything there. They just looked and said, oh, pretty, and then came up. Just like Bezos did the first time he went up. So Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:15:18] Jesse Fries:
An astronaut is someone that goes up into space Yep. Does testing up there. They are scientists more so than anything else. Yep. Yep. So, yeah, they're not astronauts.
[01:15:33] Jesse Fries:
Not at all. Not at all. They're tourists. Exactly. Exactly.
[01:15:38] Jesse Fries:
You know? I wonder if they had a tourist visa. I don't think you'd need one. There's no government. I don't know. They they technically left the borders in The United States.
[01:15:50] Jesse Fries:
Technically, they didn't. They just went straight up and straight down.
[01:15:56] Jesse Fries:
Right over there. I thought they had gone up up to the Arctic. No. It was out of Texas, dude. Out of West Texas. Well, no. I I know it was, but I thought that I thought that I I don't know. I my understanding what what they were talking about when I when I first read about it, when it was was yet to be launched, was that they were gonna go up and it was gonna do, like, a little tiny orbit and bring them back down. No. No over it. No.
[01:16:21] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Up, down. Okay.
[01:16:25] Jesse Fries:
It it would never was each other red that was gonna reach the base. Polar orbit then.
[01:16:30] Jesse Fries:
I have no clue. It went up and came down. That's all it did. Okay. Then it's nothing. Yeah. It is nothing. It's completely nothing. They they saw the curvature of the Earth or well, if you believe in flat Earth, there is just the disk.
[01:16:44] Jesse Fries:
They saw the rim of Earth. Yeah. Exactly. Or some some of them think the bowl of Earth.
[01:16:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's a different one. But, yeah, I haven't heard that. Some people think that earth is in a bowl. Sure. Why not? Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Let's see here. Let's, we're getting a bit long here. Let's try to parse this down. Let's see. International news. The UK Supreme Court has said that one of their laws that talks about sex and gender, it means biological. So, basically, like, women's spaces over in The UK now are women's spaces only. Biological women's spaces only. Thank you. The feminists have won over there. JK Rowling is the one that really bankrolled this fight.
Yeah. But yeah. So it was based off of, like, a twenty year old law, that, and the Supreme Court says, yeah, that it says sex. That means biological. So mhmm. So that's finally some good news out of The UK. I know. It's it's like the crazy you know, so it's like unlike the other one that came out that, said that they're blocking white people, from actually, applying to be a police officer, in let's see. Where is that exactly? It's a certain, West Yorkshire, police have, said that they will stop hiring white people for now so they can boost the numbers of, minority groups. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're still they're still at it. They're still at it.
[01:18:32] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[01:18:35] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Beyond that, that's a China says that they hacked us. That's not really news. We knew they did.
[01:18:43] Jesse Fries:
So China hacks us almost every other day. So Exactly. So it's
[01:18:48] Jesse Fries:
like, okay. They hacked us and, because they don't like us in Taiwan. Okay. Yeah. That works.
[01:18:55] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. So let's get into business a little bit here. Okay. So Figma, I'm sure you've never heard of them. Nope. It's a, tech company Uh-huh. Sent a d c cease and desist letter to Lovable, another tech company Uh-huh. Because they, trademarked the term dev mode.
[01:19:27] Jesse Fries:
Oh, what?
[01:19:31] Jesse Fries:
Yes. They were allowed to trademark the term dev mode.
[01:19:36] Jesse Fries:
It's just short for developer mode.
[01:19:38] Jesse Fries:
Yes. And so Lovable, they they've they've Lovable is a very open source source, thing. Uh-huh. I'd have to go into it to see exactly what they do. Right. But they they they created a dev mode so that you could go so that people could go in and actually alter the source code and stuff like that.
[01:20:06] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[01:20:07] Jesse Fries:
Which is what a dev mode is.
[01:20:10] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right.
[01:20:12] Jesse Fries:
But they're being told now by Figma that they can't actually use the term dev mode for that because they copyrighted it.
[01:20:21] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Switch it to developer mode. I I yeah. You hear that? It's like, okay. Be stupid.
[01:20:27] Jesse Fries:
You know? That's Well, I mean Or fight it, I guess, if you will have the money to waste. But They they don't really have the money to waste, so they'll probably end up, changing it to developer mode. Yeah. Or something. Yeah. The the thing is is, I mean, you know, fig it it it's much like with songs. Uh-huh. You know, there were people that tried to copyright certain chords that they played in their songs. Yep. But if you look look at the music from, like, a hundred, two hundred years ago, they were using these chords too. Yep. Yep. So much much like dev mode, it's a publicly used term. It shouldn't be allowed to be corporate copyrighted. The government should never have allowed that to happen.
[01:21:15] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. I completely But they did.
[01:21:20] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Yeah.
[01:21:26] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Oh, NVIDIA, they're Yep. Building a a plant. It'll take about four years to get it up and going. Well, many plants. They're doing one Phoenix, Houston, and Dallas, from what I understand. So Yep. Trump's winning on that one. Getting them to bring stuff in. Yeah. They're gonna start making the AI chips here. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whistleblower that claims Meta helped China develop AI, but maybe. I don't know. To me, that that's a funny story because, she this whistleblower was trying to sell a book. Right? Mhmm. Insider, gossip book about Zuckerberg and Sandberg.
I put that block that book was blocked last month by a judge saying that she can't release it. So now she's testified before Congress. So it was just a money grab in my book. You know? So it's like everything she says is kinda, like, it's suspect. You know? It's Yep. And so yeah. That's, that's how I view that one.
[01:22:37] Jesse Fries:
Well and, now OpenAI, in order to fully utilize OpenAI Uh-huh. You're gonna have to companies are gonna have to verify their ID.
[01:22:53] Jesse Fries:
Oh, fun. Fun. Because they're born in there? Is that it? It's gotta be No. It's
[01:22:58] Jesse Fries:
it's I it's mostly because so many people are using it now, and there is some people are using it for nefarious reasons. And so to prevent the nefarious reasons, they're gonna make you verify your ID first.
[01:23:16] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Sure. Why not? Then they'll just go with another AI system. It doesn't matter. Yes. Exactly. All that. It's like Yeah. Even if you're not doing nefarious, you're like, oh, I'm not doing that. But Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense. Yep. Not make sense.
[01:23:35] Jesse Fries:
And Utah YouTube is, making a daily timer available on that for now. Because I guess there are so many people that start looking at shorts and, you know, the next thing they know, like, five hours has passed. Right. Right. And so they're they've they're putting it in a thing where you can set a time limit on how long you can look at charts. Yeah. And then you'll and then it'll come up with a prompt saying extend, and then you'll just say, yeah. And then you But it but at least but at least that'll tell you that this, you know, that that this amount of time has expired. So, like, if I were looking at charts before the show, you know, the only way that I would know that the show was happening was be would be because you would come on come online and, you know, half hour before a show, like, always, and we'd be like and I'd be like, oh, shit. That's right. The show. But, you know, for people that that are, like, looking at charts before going to work Uh-huh. You lose track of time. I mean, you know Oh, yeah. Yeah. I completely understand.
[01:24:37] Jesse Fries:
Makes absolute sense. Somehow. Somehow. Yeah.
[01:24:42] Jesse Fries:
Meta is also, trying to protect teen accounts now. They're making it so that, they have the it'll pixelate possible nudity and stuff like that on teen accounts.
[01:24:57] Jesse Fries:
So it'll be like Japanese porn? Yes. Exactly.
[01:25:00] Jesse Fries:
And they're they're also they're also, making it so that parents have to allow the they have to check off on allowing the the teen to watch live streams as well.
[01:25:12] Jesse Fries:
Makes sense because, yeah, those can go wrong from what I can understand. Absolutely. I never really scroll through those. But, Let's see here. Anything else we really wanna cover? What's that solar engineering to to cool a planet?
[01:25:34] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. They're they're starting to go off the deep end. Uh-huh. So this was something that was originally brought forward by Newt Gingrich.
[01:25:45] Jesse Fries:
Oh, we're going back then. Okay. Yeah.
[01:25:49] Jesse Fries:
At that point in time, everybody was like, no. That would be the worst thing to do because we'd we can't
[01:25:54] Jesse Fries:
we can't we can't know the consequences of it. Right. Right. Right. Except a movie to talk about it, if you remember.
[01:26:02] Jesse Fries:
Yes. What movie? And so now they're talking, but now it's becoming because the global warming is the the warming is still happening even though we're reducing the amount of c o two. They're afraid that we can't reduce enough c o two to prevent the global warming in time. And so now they're talking about releasing, like, sulfur and stuff like that in the atmosphere to to stop the sunlight the sunlight from getting through. They're talking about putting solar shades up in space to block the sunlight.
[01:26:40] Jesse Fries:
Yep. And and you know something? What was it Highlander two? I think it was Highlander two. That that that was that was the whole premise of the beginning of the movie. Yeah. Is that they they they put a shield around the planet to stop us from overheating, and then it just caused havoc and desolation. And so yeah. So yeah. Leave it be, people. Just leave it be. We're we're we will slowly get to where we need to go. And, anyways, the Earth is greener than it's been in forever in a day because of all the c o two in the atmosphere.
[01:27:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[01:27:20] Jesse Fries:
There is no shortage of food.
[01:27:24] Jesse Fries:
No. And if if you We're fine. The sunlight, we will have shortages of food. Because plants will stop dying. Yeah. Plants will die. Crops will not grow. Yep. Yep. I I'm sorry. But no matter how what you think, you cannot possibly have enough crops grow by use by utilizing sun lamps. I know. I know. It's just stupid. You know? It's
[01:27:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I just don't get it. I just don't get it. Mhmm. Let's see here.
[01:28:00] Jesse Fries:
One that I found interesting was, handwriting. Uh-huh. It, makes it so that you can remember better than Yeah. Yeah. Typing does. Studies. Yep. Yep.
[01:28:11] Jesse Fries:
Yep. They've they've said for a while that, like, taking notes by hand is much better than taking notes from a computer in school and everything like that. So Yeah. They they, you know, the article went into about how it's
[01:28:22] Jesse Fries:
a lot faster to type by computer. So, you know, what you what they've recommended is while you're in school is that you take notes by hand, write your papers on computer.
[01:28:31] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. Right.
[01:28:34] Jesse Fries:
Another one that was really interesting to me though is, memory manipulation. Uh-huh. They have found that now that so far, they've only tested and and and seen areas of improvement on improving memory. Uh-huh. They have not but they they they've tormented that they could possibly reverse some things as well and help you forget certain things. Okay. Okay. So what what they did was they they they put a whole bunch of sensors on some some people's heads Right. And had them had them basically look at words and well, no. This one, they they were bringing up memories. Uh-huh. And so they would they they were watching for the very small neurons that were firing that connected multiple portions of the brain and stuff. Right.
And they found that with that with certain charges that it would bring up the memory. So they've so they started testing it on another group, and they input these charges in while they were remembering something. Uh-huh. And it improves their memory by, like, 30%. Okay. Cool. So they think that this may be a way to treat Alzheimer's.
[01:30:05] Jesse Fries:
That would be cool. That would be cool. But but but you said they're also thinking that they could, like,
[01:30:12] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. There there's some testing being done to well, not change memories, but to eliminate some memories. So, like, they think for people with PTSD, there is none of that yet. No. So no total recall yet? No. No. No. More, more MIB, White Men in Black, where you can where you can erase the Right. Right. Right. Right. Yep. Okay. But they they, you know, they're they're doing this testing for, like, people with PTSD or, assault victims and stuff like that, sexual assault victims. If they can go in and they can make it so that those memories aren't as vivid and aren't as connected to other good memories.
They think that they may be able to help the, to help some people that have some severe mental issues because of those situations.
[01:31:02] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense. Let's see here. Well, I I I think I'll I'll I'll just go with, my last story here, and then, we'll be out of here. So, apparently, there there is a tennis match. Right? Mhmm. And this tennis match is in between these two ladies. Harriet Dart, versus Francis, Lois, Boisson. And apparently, at one point, Harriet Dart, she went to the judge and she goes, can you tell her to put on some deodorant? Because holy
[01:31:48] Jesse Fries:
hell. Well, maybe that's why the French always went.
[01:31:54] Jesse Fries:
Well, the French are known for being a bit stinky. They do perfume instead of deodorant. So, you know, there is that. There is that. And with that, thank you for joining us for episode 33 of the Minus Mayan Reeves podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And you guys have a great week.
Introduction and Moose Migration
British Office of Communications and Free Speech
Immigration and Deportation Cases
Tariffs and Trade Wars
Harvard and Government Funding
Martial Law Rumors and Political Maneuvers
IRS Workforce Reduction and Automation
Daylight Savings Time Debate
FDA Phasing Out Animal Testing
UK Supreme Court Ruling on Gender
Memory Manipulation and AI
Tennis Match and Cultural Differences
