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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:20) Introduction

(00:00:46) Political Commentary and Time Travel

(00:02:53) FBI Investigations and Political Scandals

(00:04:38) Cocaine in the White House

(00:06:32) Supreme Court Leaks

(00:08:48) Harvard and International Students

(00:12:44) Automotive Recalls and Industry Issues

(00:18:09) Golden Dome and Missile Defense

(00:22:05) Media Trust and Clickbait Headlines

(00:28:48) Social Security and Retirement Funds

(00:38:02) Trump and South African President

(00:45:11) Nuclear Reactors and Renewable Energy

(00:47:45) UK Free Speech and Legal Issues

(00:51:04) COVID Vaccines and Health Policies

(00:53:51) Trump's Tariffs and Economic Policies

(00:56:12) Harvard's Government Contracts

(01:00:45) Value of Trade Schools

(01:04:48) Wheel of Time TV Series Rant

(01:14:52) Education and Harvard's Tuition Policies

(01:18:28) Funny Stories and Gen Z Adulting

(01:23:52) French News and Cultural Issues

(01:27:12) Microplastics and Environmental Concerns

(01:30:42) Tech Innovations from China

(01:33:33) COVID Masks and Human Light Emission

(01:35:45) Asteroid Size Comparisons

[00:00:20] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday,   May 28, and we are live with episode number 39 of the mindless meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Fries, and my kids are starving while I am doing this podcast. So it's perfect.  

[00:00:35] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   And I'm Jamin Fries, and   I'm starting to wonder   just what goes on in some people's minds.   Okay. You got it. I just ran just just now, I I ran across a, an ex,   post   that said, Buttigieg reveals   how he's advised how he'd advised Democrats on key issues if he could try and time travel back to 2020.  

[00:01:06] Jesse Fries:

That's a real news story?  

[00:01:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. On Fox News. Yeah.  

[00:01:14] Jesse Fries:

That's stupid.  

[00:01:16] Jamon Fries:

But, I mean, con considering that they still don't understand   why they lost the election,   does he really have anything to impart   that would be any different from what he did?  

[00:01:31] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. I bet so. Yeah. About how far he stuck his hand up to puppet Biden, maybe. You know? I I don't know. Yeah. It's  

[00:01:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:01:44] Jesse Fries:

You know, that's crazy. The whole everything that's going on with that and every all the   Oh, yes. That Tapper book and everything like that. I'm not sure if it's as big as   everybody seems to be claiming.   Tapper is just selling a book, so I don't know. But Yeah.   It's a fucked up situation either way.  

[00:02:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I've seen some people saying, like, well, I never saw that cabal get together and control him, but I'm like,   yeah. So   you're part of the press, so you weren't around him all the time.  

[00:02:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It it seems like it was just a small cabal. It wasn't   it wasn't the entire administration. It was just It was, like, six six or seven people, I think. Yeah. Yeah.   Including Biden or Jill   and then, Hunter. In court yeah. Hunter and Jill and then Apparently, Hunter was our president there for a while. Whew. Doggy.  

[00:02:41] Jamon Fries:

And we wonder where the cocaine came from in the White House. Right? And how he got a pardon, you know, it's Yeah.   But yeah. No. That that that's something interest that I ran across too is that,   the FBI is reopening   three investigations   from the Biden era.  

[00:03:03] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   I I'm worried about that just as in they seem to be   going after things that can just be better left alone.   You know, just it's like, who cares? Just move on with life.   It's like, how many don't give a shit anymore? It it doesn't matter? No.  

[00:03:26] Jamon Fries:

No. No. The Hunter Biden thing doesn't really matter. I mean But that's a cocaine thing.  

[00:03:32] Jesse Fries:

We all know this. Yeah. It's,  

[00:03:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But I mean, you know, it's   it it it right now, even if they found out that it was Hunter Biden that brought it in, it wouldn't have make any difference because, well, he's got the pardon.   Right.   But for, you know, there's a couple there there's there's one story at least that I would like to know.   You know, I would like the guy found who did it, and that's the,   the the bombing one one in DC.  

[00:04:06] Jesse Fries:

Bombing? Which bombing?  

[00:04:09] Jamon Fries:

The   RNC   and I think even the d n the DNC and the RNC.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. That that that should always We need to know who did that. Oh, yeah. Completely. You know, we need to find out who did that and arrest them. I mean, you know, that that's   The bombings and dealings. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. The the fact that the FBI just kinda stopped investigating   that for   for a few years.   Uh-huh. That's problematic.  

[00:04:37] Jesse Fries:

It is a bit weird. It is a bit weird. But, you know, it's like cocaine and blood knife on the wall. You know, it's like Yeah. Drugs, I don't care. It's like   it's like right before,   we shut down, Cuba. You know, JFK had all the Cuban   cigars imported real quick. It's like Yep. Come on. Just just get over it. We   shit like we don't care about.  

[00:05:00] Jamon Fries:

I the one of the reasons that I heard that they're,   that they're talking about reopening the drug, the cocaine in the White House one, is because, well, what if it wasn't cocaine? What if it was red? What if it were some chemical that could kill people or, you know, stuff like that? What if what if what if? Well, you know, the person that was able to get it in there   was someone that everyone trusted. So Yeah.   You know, I mean,  

[00:05:31] Jesse Fries:

it it it wasn't just some random person bringing it in. Yeah. No. It it it doesn't need to be investigated. I'm sorry. Just plain simple. The it it doesn't even matter. Who gives a shit? No.   It's like, oh, imagine that. Are elites doing Coke?   Yeah. Is is that even a news story? I don't think that's even a news story. You know? So it's like  

[00:05:53] Jamon Fries:

I don't think so. I mean, I think they pretty much all are doing something like that. They're doing something. Exactly. Yeah. You know? Adrenacrome  

[00:06:01] Jesse Fries:

or Coke or you know, they're doing something. Yep.  

[00:06:04] Jamon Fries:

Yep. And then the the third one that they're investigating   is the, Supreme Court Justice League.  

[00:06:11] Jesse Fries:

The Supreme   Court Justice League. So Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman  

[00:06:18] Jamon Fries:

No. The they'd I guess,   there was a   pretty big leak on   Oh, leak. Leak. Yeah.  

[00:06:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You said league.   Oh, okay. No. No. No. No. No. The Justice League.   Yeah.  

[00:06:39] Jamon Fries:

Well, I get where you're going with that now. I I did in my mind, didn't go there. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:06:48] Jesse Fries:

That that's an internal   justice Yeah. Or  

[00:06:51] Jamon Fries:

or supreme court thing. I it's I I don't think that's something that the FBI   needs to be looking at.  

[00:06:57] Jesse Fries:

No. I think they know who it is and just move on with their life. At least the people in the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court can decide what is good, what is bad.   Yep. It was an internal thing. The the executive branch cannot butt in on that at all.   Yep.   So   yeah. Yeah. No.  

[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:

I know. It's so all these things people wanna know, but it's like Well, the the yeah. People there there are things that we need to know, and then there are things that we don't need to know. And that's one of the things we don't really need to know.   Yeah. We really don't Does it matter who the leaker who the leaker was?   I know. No. It doesn't. It doesn't matter. It's not going to affect anyone in any way.   I mean, you know, it the only the only thing that   that any that either the executive or the legislature   or the legislative   something?  

You know, that that would be the only thing that the legislative   and executive branch should even be looking at for that's from that story.  

[00:08:11] Jesse Fries:

But, technically, it's the Supreme Court. They can do anything they want. They they're just Yeah.   So it's   to to me, that would be butting in. You you could try to do it, but I think the Supreme Court I mean, that that would that would be the only  

[00:08:25] Jamon Fries:

thing that they could do because, you know, you can make laws that are that would affect that.   Yep. Yep.   So everything else, I mean, every other aspect of that of that whole story   has absolutely nothing to do with any other branch of the government. It's purely the Supreme Court. Mhmm.  

[00:08:48] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yeah.   Okay. Let's see here. We can talk about schools like Harvard and whatnot.   Looks like,   things just keep getting weirder and weirder with that sort of situation.  

[00:09:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:02] Jesse Fries:

It's,   so, yeah, Harvard and the Trump administration are fighting over whatnot in court and everything like that, whether or not they can stop   international students from coming in just to Harvard and whatnot. So  

[00:09:17] Jamon Fries:

I mean, honestly,   my answer to that is yes. They can.  

[00:09:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's what the court cases have to decide.  

[00:09:25] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean,   do you know why they're stopping the  

[00:09:29] Jesse Fries:

foreign students from coming? Yeah. Because the foreign students are, like,   they're doing things that are   anti what the American government or American people want. No. That's not why. Why?  

[00:09:42] Jamon Fries:

The reason that they're saying we're not gonna let Harvard bring in any more foreign students   is because Harvard is legally required to tell the federal government   who the foreign students are that are at their campus. Right. Right.   They refuse to do so. Oh, Jesus.   So That's funny. The government's just saying, you know what? You're not gonna tell us what you're legally obligated to tell us. Yeah. We're not going to let any new Fordham students go to your school. Yeah. Makes sense. Makes sense. I never really  

[00:10:15] Jesse Fries:

looked into it. So yeah. Yeah. The  

[00:10:18] Jamon Fries:

for the I was I was right there with you until I until I read into it a little bit. And I'm like, you know?   Yeah. No. That's not government overreach. That's the school deciding to say f you to the government,   and the government responding.  

[00:10:34] Jesse Fries:

And the government said, okay. We'll just shut everything down, and you can Yeah. Live off your proceeds.   But, yeah, apparently, like, a third of their population is foreign students.  

[00:10:43] Jamon Fries:

Yes. 31%  

[00:10:45] Jesse Fries:

left from what I heard. Yeah. Yeah. That's a huge   That's a huge amount. And   I I bet those students, they don't well, probably a few geniuses get a free ride, but I would think everybody else is, like, a prince or, oil magnate's son or something like that, Saudi prince or Oh, yeah. Yeah. That sort of thing. This that  

[00:11:06] Jamon Fries:

the foreign foreign students is by far the biggest moneymaker for colleges.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely. I mean, the the tuition that they charge is insane for foreign students.  

[00:11:17] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. It is. But did you see that,   Trump now is not just with Harvard, but he's actually decided   to basically   he's stopping all visa,   student visas right now.   Yeah. And then he's making it so that,   well, at least stopping them from actually doing an interview,   at the embassies and everything overseas.   And gonna make it so that,   we will scrub,   their social medias   to make sure that they aren't doing things that we don't like before they get over you here. So yeah. Yeah. Mhmm. I mean, that I don't see a problem with that either. No. I don't see it. No. That that's just vetting. You know? It's Yeah. So many times you have to share your social media and whatnot.  

[00:12:02] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Especially with the US government and everything like that for any sort of visa. So I mean, you know, to get a job now, they scrub your social media. So, I mean, you know, come on.   You can't see the government shouldn't do  

[00:12:17] Jesse Fries:

it. Well, especially for   noncitizens   that are trying to apply, they technically have no rights   Yeah. At all because they're overseas   and everything like that. So, yeah, it's,   yeah, at least any rights here. But, yeah, it's Right. Right.  

[00:12:35] Jamon Fries:

They'll have rights once they get here, but we don't have to let them come here. Exactly. Exactly.  

[00:12:44] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. What else do we got?  

[00:12:49] Jamon Fries:

You remember talking about the GM,   recall   Yeah. The other day? Uh-huh.  

[00:12:55] Jesse Fries:

Ford's got one now too. Yeah. I saw that. Like, a million,   Ford Yeah. Well, 1,000,000   vehicles over there, rear view camera software issues. Yep. Yep. They they won't show the camera apparently.   Yeah. So Oops. Problematic  

[00:13:11] Jamon Fries:

when you put a when you put a camera on the on the vehicle and you so people can see what they're what's behind them.   Yep. And then the camera doesn't work. There's a bit of a problem there. Yeah. And the camera is mandated by law. So Yeah.  

[00:13:26] Jesse Fries:

You have to have that. If you don't have it, you are not in compliance.  

[00:13:30] Jamon Fries:

So Oh, okay. I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah. That was  

[00:13:34] Jesse Fries:

it it's so that you can see everything behind you. There's there are so many times, like, a kid or a bike would get run over   Okay. Because they're just right behind the car and you can't see.  

[00:13:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No.  

[00:13:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So they made it so that   there's a camera now. And I rely on that camera completely now. I barely ever use my rearview mirrors for backing up.  

[00:13:55] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I mean, it it makes sense.   You know? Why do you why would you ever use   a mirror   Uh-huh.   When   you've got a camera that shows you everything just right in front of you?   Yeah. That that's what I'm thinking too. Yeah. Yeah. Makes things easy. Nice and handy. So I I I might still turn my head to look to see if there's anybody a ways away that's coming down the that's coming Uh-huh. Coming down the road. But   other than that, yeah. I mean, there's no reason to look in their rear view mirror when you're backing out other than, you know, is there a car way down there that I know Oh, yeah. Not back out for?  

[00:14:36] Jesse Fries:

That's probably for things like that, which is why with the   the Canadian guy. He's, like, making it any car older than, like, 2,000 has to be taken off the road.   Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. So he's gonna destroy the car market up there kinda like the Cash for Clunkers did here in The United States.  

[00:14:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:14:57] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. Clunkers.   So  

[00:15:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know, the it it it's amazing the effect that cash for clunkers had   on the on the   not not so much on the auto industry itself   Uh-huh. But on   the,   for anyone that   wants to save money by repairing their own vehicle. Oh, yeah. The used the used market. The third party market. Yeah. Yeah. Completely. It destroyed the third party market.  

[00:15:31] Jesse Fries:

It really did. Unintended consequences.   You know? It's,   that's how I view it. You know? It's   and nowadays, cars are just way too damn expensive. Anyway, it's, like, a hundred thousand dollars for a truck. You're, like, going, are you are you kidding me?   You know? It's  

[00:15:47] Jamon Fries:

it's more than my mortgage sometimes. You know? It's, that's because your truck your truck is now more of a computer than a   than a vehicle.  

[00:15:57] Jesse Fries:

No. It's pure profit, dude. It's pure profit.   Yes. There are more expensive things in there,   and everything like that, but   how much they charge for,   especially a truck,   which doesn't make sense.  

[00:16:13] Jamon Fries:

When   when it the the days that the truck becomes more of a computer than my computer does Uh-huh.   Then, you know, maybe paying a little bit more money because of the computer components in it might make a little bit of sense. But No. I understand. Can build it I can build a computer for $300.  

[00:16:32] Jesse Fries:

What's funny though is that okay. So you can get,   a Cadillac,   brand new Cadillac, just the small one that they have, a sedan,   right, that comes with all the computer shit, right, even the Super Cruise   to where it'll drive itself,   all this stuff,   and you can get that far under 50.  

[00:16:54] Jamon Fries:

Wow.   Yeah.   But you add all that up like, become the cheap car.  

[00:16:59] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. This is their small compact,   sedan.  

[00:17:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But still, I mean, it's a Cadillac.  

[00:17:06] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It cars are actually cheaper than SUVs and everything else like that. Yeah. It's,   yeah.   And trucks are just   it's to the point where you can't even buy them, really. Yeah. It's like, you want what?   It's just  

[00:17:24] Jamon Fries:

which for me really sucks because   I need a vehicle that has a bench seat.  

[00:17:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I think Toyota might still make one of those. I don't know.   I I don't think GM does.   I'm not sure about  

[00:17:42] Jamon Fries:

Dodge. I know. Ford make one one of the Ford trucks is still a bench seat. Okay.   But, yeah, no. They're rare to find. Yep. Yep.  

[00:17:54] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Okay. So anything else automotive? I don't think so. I think that's about it. The Ford Yeah. I I can't think of anything.   Yeah.   Okeydokey.   Oh, there's a speaking of, like, well, Canada and whatnot, the the whole gold Golden Dome thing.   That was a hilarious tweet.   Yeah. Yeah.   You know, I   you wanna explain it real quick?  

[00:18:27] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, the Golden Dome is just the same as the what is it? The Iron Dome Of Israel where basically   you set up all sorts of   satellites.   Well, we I don't think they use satellites in Israel, but we would use a whole bunch of satellites and missile defense systems and stuff like that to prevent   ballistic missiles from or non ballistic missiles from being able to make it into The US into The US. US. Uh-huh.  

[00:18:56] Jesse Fries:

And,  

[00:18:58] Jamon Fries:

you know,   first of all, for what they want to do, I don't think we quite have the technology for it. Uh-huh.   Right now, I I was reading up on it. And right now,   we do have missile defense systems on the on the shoreline on near the shores of our country.   Right. Right.   And when they test them against an,   against the blank ICBM   missile   Uh-huh.   They take the missile out about 40% of the time. Yeah. It's better than nothing.   No. It absolutely is better than nothing. But,   you know, now they're talking about   the the biggest reason that they're talking about the the dome now is because   China and Russia have developed those,   hyper sub missiles. Uh-huh.  

And we do need to be able to protect against those because they can launch that in China, and it'll be here in an hour. Right. Right. Yeah. So we do we do need to have the ability to defend against that.   But   I I don't   I don't know. I mean, it's,   a if if the technology that we have can do it, then that would be great.  

[00:20:20] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:20:21] Jamon Fries:

But   from everything that I've read, we're not quite there yet.  

[00:20:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But, you know, that that that's how things get done, you know, not being quite there yet. You know? It's just like Yeah. It is it's like the modern day Star Wars, isn't it? You know, the Reagan Yes. That's exactly what it is. So In fact in fact, when Trump when Trump first talked about it, he even mentioned Star Wars.   Yep. Nope. Nope. But the funny thing I thought about it was   when Trump   Canada wants part of it.   Trump goes, okay. It's $61,000,000,000   if you want it.  

[00:20:55] Jamon Fries:

Or Well, we'll cover you for 61,000,000,000,   or we'll cover you for free if you're the fifty first state.  

[00:21:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I thought that was funny.   Yeah.   Just more Trump trolling.   It's funny. Yep.   Let's see here.  

[00:21:14] Jamon Fries:

And then But let me because I I I ran across another story on that.   Yeah. It it's in a scientific journal.   So you'd think that   they would have some kind of good   explanation   for the for their headline   Uh-huh.   Saying that it wouldn't work because of physics.  

[00:21:36] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:21:38] Jamon Fries:

But then they didn't talk about physics at all in the freaking story.  

[00:21:45] Jesse Fries:

That's hilarious.  

[00:21:47] Jamon Fries:

All they talked about in the story was how   Russia and China would start it would ramp up a new,   a new arms race because we were gonna be putting missiles up in space above they were saying we were gonna be putting missiles above Moscow and Beijing.   Right. Right. With the golden dome that's meant to protect The United States, why would we have their those protective satellites over   Moscow and Beijing?  

[00:22:16] Jesse Fries:

You know,   these headlines, some of them are just like   I don't know. It it's like there was this one. It was about the news media, but,   the news media now trusts,   or no. People now trust the news media   more now that Trump is president than they did before. Right?   Yeah. This this was a headline.   In the story, it it it did show some percentages and everything like that, but they were all within   within the margin of error. It was like the it  

[00:22:47] Jamon Fries:

was, like, within three to 4%,  

[00:22:50] Jesse Fries:

increase or d increase. So it's like, you know, that's within the margin of error. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how big your poll is. I don't know anything like that. I did it didn't get into that, but that's within the margin of errors generally for any poll is about three to 4%.   Yes.   So to to claim this, oh, we're good now, people. And and it was only it was like   it one went from, like, 12% to 16%.   So,   you know, it's like, they're they're so much more trusted now, you know, because they they they crack the mid teens. Yeah.  

[00:23:31] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. That's,  

[00:23:36] Jesse Fries:

that was a news The only pe the only people that trust the media more  

[00:23:41] Jamon Fries:

are people that   already   trusted the media.  

[00:23:45] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   Well well, it's just like you also nobody else trusts them. Yeah. It's just like this other, article. The headline is kinda misleading. It's like, the sun is killing off SpaceX Starlink satellites.   Right?   That's a headline. Oh my god. You're going, oh my god. The sun is killing off these satellites. Right?   It shortens their life by maybe ten days in orbit.   And the article itself goes, well, this is kind of a good thing maybe.   So it's like  

[00:24:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I   I gotta say that's that's the one thing that I dislike about the Internet age   Uh-huh. Is the clickbait headlines.  

[00:24:35] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. I mean But that there's nothing in it. Yeah. You know, it's like, well, that's not all that bad. You know? But so many people just read the headlines, unfortunately. So many people just read headlines. Like, if if I just read the headlines, I would think that Social Security was gonna go bankrupt tomorrow.   Oh, yeah. That's been the case for, like, at least thirty years.  

[00:24:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   But, I mean, you know, the it's gotten much, much stronger. You know? I I would think that even if it wasn't going bankrupt, Trump would be shutting it down. Well, of course. Of course. Yeah.   Trump is gonna shut down Medicare. You know, that's definitely   from the clickbait headlines.   Right. Right. Medicaid. You know, any of them. Yeah. All of these stories, they   it's like okay. So   Trump is making massive changes in his and is gonna be cutting back on Medicare.   And then the story talks about   the decision   to   allow   the decision that was made that allows,   government employees   to collect   the Social Security wages earnings from,   you know, their Social Security Social Security payments   that they made from working outside of the government Right. Where they were in the public sector. Uh-huh. So these people worked in the public sector, made a whole bunch of money,   then went into the into the or they worked in the private sector, and then they went into the public sector.  

And because they were now we're in the public retired from the public sector, they weren't basically getting a all   the money that they were getting from Social Security was minimal.  

[00:26:11] Jesse Fries:

Right. But they were still getting their pension.  

[00:26:14] Jamon Fries:

Yes. They were still getting their pensions. But Yeah. When they had worked in the private sector No. I understand. That money that they it was held for them. Social Security is not the facts.   You know? You're supposed to get the money that you pay in back.  

[00:26:28] Jesse Fries:

Plus, you know No. No. Actually, you're not really. The the they say you are. That's not what everybody thinks. That's what everybody thinks. It's   it's a safety net,   a savings,   social safety net. It's what it is. It's Yes. It's like the age   of longevity   when it was actually first established, you would have Social Security for maybe,   what, five years? Oh, yeah. And then you'd kill over. Absolutely. Yeah.   Now people are on Social Security for twenty, thirty years, and it's a good majority of the people.   So the system itself just isn't   designed. And this is   even taking away   them stealing our money and everything like that. The federal government   using it as a piggy bank.  

Even without that,   technically,   it wasn't supposed to be the life savings   of   everybody. It was supposed to be a few people that actually survived.  

[00:27:26] Jamon Fries:

I don't I'd I honestly   also don't think it was supposed to last as long as it did.  

[00:27:34] Jesse Fries:

Like, it should like, it shouldn't have still been around. Is that basically what you're saying?  

[00:27:39] Jamon Fries:

I I   no. I I have absolutely nothing to support this, but just   for for this is just this is just a thought that that ran through my head.   Just the way that it was implemented.   Uh-huh. It was implemented in a manner of   not being a retirement account, but being a   safety net.  

[00:28:02] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:28:03] Jamon Fries:

Right.   Specifically   for the Great Depression.  

[00:28:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. 1936,   was when it,   went into effect. Yep.  

[00:28:13] Jamon Fries:

When you're when you're starting out in a system where   people that have not paid in are collecting,   it is not something that can possibly   work for a long time.   Uh-huh.   So I I think it was, you know, I think the p now it it, of course, warped into something very different. But I I would be willing to bet   that at least the people that first talked about it   Mhmm. Were like,   we need to do something to save the seniors right now.   Right.   But I highly doubt that   that there there may have been some, but I highly doubt that many of them thought that it would become what it is.  

[00:29:04] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. It it's it's   it's changed over the years and everything like that. Apparently,   just a quick overview from, Social Security Administration,   website.   Apparently, it, like, covered everything. Like, it was like a Medicare.   It was everything. It was all part of that. So it's, it it was even even unemployment insurance. So Yeah. It it was a blanket for  

[00:29:29] Jamon Fries:

people that didn't have money at the time.  

[00:29:32] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yes. In the midst of the Great Depression. Yeah. Yeah. I so, I mean, I I  

[00:29:38] Jamon Fries:

I I just can't see myself envisioning   people back then saying, you know what we need to do.   Mhmm. We need to make it we need to make it so that every senior citizen from now on has a retirement account even if they don't want one.  

[00:29:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   If it was see see, this is where people   who wanna privatize it, they wanna throw it into the stock market.   It it would kinda actually make sense if the if the government just can't touch it. You know? But it's your   it's your savings. You know, mandating that you save for retirement kinda makes sense,   in the end,   whether or not that's through a pension scheme or   or through, like, a Social Security scheme. You know? It's, the pension schemes, though, that that could get finicky though too because it's like with teachers and stuff like that. If you if you get fired or you quit, like, before a certain time,   all that money that you put or all that time that you put in for the pension   is gone.  

Yes.   It doesn't count. You don't get the pension.   Yep. You have to be there certain law. It is, like, good.   If if you suck at being a teacher, all that doesn't help you for your retirement.  

[00:30:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know? So   Well, I mean and, you know, it's   I I fully   I I I would have no absolutely no problem with the government   mandating that we have to have a retirement account. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   I would have absolutely no man no problem with the government mandating that a certain percentage of your income   be withheld to go into your retirement account,   which is basically what Social Security is now. Yeah. Yeah. It is. The problem is is that government can touch the money.  

[00:31:28] Jesse Fries:

Oh, completely. Completely. You should you should be the only one touching your money. Plain and simple. Yes. Yes.   Yeah. You could make it you could set up like, Obamacare,   to where you have to prove that you have it sort of situation. Yeah.   And you could even set up rules to where it cannot be touched. Like, literally, it cannot be touched   until,   you're old you're old enough. You can even send that stipulation that this account cannot be touched.  

[00:31:55] Jamon Fries:

It can be passed down and so on and so forth, but that'd be about it. You know? Yeah. I wanna see why not. Yeah. I mean, I I would have absolutely no problem if they set if they would set up a four zero one k style program for that.  

[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.   Just one that you you couldn't touch because   Yeah. It's like with the four zero one k, you can borrow it. No such thing as early penalty fees. No borrowing from it. Right. Because you can't withdraw it until you hit a certain age. Exactly. Exactly. You know? It's like you can't buy a house with it. Because right now, you can use four zero one k funds to, like, buy a house and things like that.  

[00:32:29] Jamon Fries:

But Well, you know, I mean, it it's like okay. So so you've been paying into Social Security for how many years? I mean, you're, what, getting close to 50 now?  

[00:32:39] Jesse Fries:

I'm   nowhere near 50, Jamie. You you you know.  

[00:32:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Three whole years left here. You're two you're two and a half to three years away.  

[00:32:51] Jesse Fries:

I know this because I hit 50 next month, Debbie. Exactly. Exactly. You're you're just jealous. You're just jealous of some Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:33:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But, you know, all all the money that you've put into Social Security, and they keep cutting back when you can when you can draw from it. Yep.   So the the problem that I have with that is that they've collected all this money from you for now.   Uh-huh.   If something were to happen to   you, your children would not get that money.   It just disappears into Social Security.  

[00:33:26] Jesse Fries:

Well,   if I die under dependents, they get it.   That's how it works.   Yep. Your dependents get the money as well. Because especially if they're if they're dependent on me.   Yeah. If they're not dependent,   they don't get anything.  

[00:33:44] Jamon Fries:

Right. So once they hit 18, they get nothing,   which means that the government gets all that money.  

[00:33:50] Jesse Fries:

Right. But it's for the whole society. It's to ensure that there's enough for Well, yeah. I I I know. I know that.  

[00:33:56] Jamon Fries:

But,   I mean,   that's not   how Social Security is built.   It's not how it's not how people say it works.   Social Security, according to them, is a retirement fund.   And a retirement  

[00:34:13] Jesse Fries:

fund for you to be able to, like, subsist on in a crappy ass place to live   with   come on. We know that's true. You know, it it's like a   how much do you get a month   in I get about 1,500 a month. For disability. Okay. 1,500. Yep. That doesn't take you very far.   I'm just saying. It gives me everything I want or need.   Yeah. I'm I'm just saying. You you you know, you you you have, low expectations in life, Jaymon. I'm just telling you. But Well, you know, I've I've  

[00:34:46] Jamon Fries:

I've   never   I don't really have low expectations.  

[00:34:53] Jesse Fries:

I'm just saying, you   don't have you you also don't have a wife to,  

[00:34:58] Jamon Fries:

where you have to do things. I don't have a wife or kids or anything like that. So You know? Yeah. So for me, $1,500   is no problem.  

[00:35:08] Jesse Fries:

I know. But you can't you can't afford a big house. You can't do anything. It it it's just basic level of living is what it is. You know? You can   Yeah.  

[00:35:17] Jamon Fries:

And you rent nowadays.   I I could afford to rent a studio apartment.  

[00:35:23] Jesse Fries:

Right. Sometimes. Yep. Maybe not even that anymore. Oh, yeah. Exactly. See, that's what I'm saying. It's   it's like,   you have a trailer that's paid off.  

[00:35:32] Jamon Fries:

Yes.   And you just have to pay the lot fee, you know, which is fucking insane now. How much is   it?   It's over 500.  

[00:35:45] Jesse Fries:

Oh, wow. Okay. That seems a bit steep for  

[00:35:52] Jamon Fries:

I I   I'm I'm wanting to stay $5.77   a month.   For for just a piece of land to put your property on. $5.05 77 a month for just a piece of land to put my pro to put my property on. Yes. Okay.  

[00:36:06] Jesse Fries:

Lovely. Lovely. Okay. Yeah. Wow.  

[00:36:08] Jamon Fries:

So when I moved here when I moved here   in '17,   it was   356.   Right. But every time they bump Social Security, they bump lot rent. Right? So Yes. My lot rent goes up with the these almost to the dollar, the same amount that that that my cost of living increases   from Social Security. So,  

[00:36:32] Jesse Fries:

what a scam.  

[00:36:34] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.   But yeah. So, I mean, I I'm damn near paying rent for an apartment right now for a single apartment.   Yeah. Completely. Completely. The only difference is is that I actually live in a trailer that's owned instead of renting the trailer itself.  

[00:36:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Which does help. Otherwise, it'd be just the same and everything like that, if not more.  

[00:36:57] Jamon Fries:

But the on the other hand, though, if I were renting,   the landlord would have to fix the air conditioner. The landlord would have to fix fix the furnace. They would have to fix the plumbing. They would have to fix everything.   I wouldn't have to look about the I wouldn't have to have bought a new,   dishwasher   because they would have had to done that.   There are benefits to it. There really are benefits to it. So So, you know, the the ownership is nice because I can do whatever I want to with the place.  

[00:37:27] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:37:28] Jamon Fries:

You know, the the   the extra cost. I I have never owned before. I've always rented. So the extra costs that come with that come with ownership is just insane to me. I mean, it's like, oh god. Yeah. No. How can I do this? It it cost me   $200   just to have a plumber come in and put a new shutoff valve on the plumbing for me so that I could have my dishwasher   installed.   You know, I'm like, oh, man. No. No.   Oh, yeah. This is what it's supposed to be.  

[00:38:03] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   So so so that Trump, summit with the South African president, that was hilarious. Last week. Yes. Yeah. It was, like, maybe the same day that, of our podcast or something like that showed him.   But, yeah, basically, that was hilarious. He was South African president was like, oh, wait. There's no genocide. No genocide.   And then Trump is like, hold on. Play that clip.  

[00:38:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And That there's a keel the board. I honestly think that that's the first time I have ever heard a president say play that clip.  

[00:38:37] Jesse Fries:

I know. Right? It was hilarious.  

[00:38:39] Jamon Fries:

When I heard that, I'm like, oh, damn. He went there.  

[00:38:44] Jesse Fries:

You you knew you knew it was set up to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   Now the South African president,   I think he knew what was gonna happen. And so he he he he he handled it, diplomatically.   He did. Yes. Yeah. But in all seriousness, that man has called for killing boars. He has called for,   taking land away with no money and everything like that. Yep. Kicking them off the land, all the white people and everything like that. So yeah. Yeah. Last time I checked, that that could probably be considered genocide.  

[00:39:16] Jamon Fries:

Just saying. Yeah. It's And, you know, I've I've also seen videos of other politicians out there   talking about, you know, not only are we gonna kill the white men, but we're gonna kill their children and their wives and everyone else.   I mean, that is which,   quite honestly,   genocide is something that is very common in Africa.  

[00:39:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's just common. It's common everywhere, Jamin.   It's it's a it's a human nature thing. We commit genocide all the time.  

[00:39:54] Jamon Fries:

I I know that we do, but, I mean, I you hear more about it out of Africa   because Not just recently. Yeah. It it's like well, no. Not just recently.   Every time there was an election and a different tribe took power   in their country,   there was a genocide of the tribe that that was gone. Where?  

[00:40:14] Jesse Fries:

What country, Jamey?  

[00:40:16] Jamon Fries:

I've heard about them in Rwanda.  

[00:40:18] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. There was a there was the   Houthis against the whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And there's the Hotel Rwanda movie, that was based off of it and everything like that. Yeah. No. That was Definitely. Yep.  

[00:40:30] Jamon Fries:

There there's I've I can't remember which countries, but it there's there's, like,  

[00:40:35] Jesse Fries:

two or three had some of it. Yeah. Sudan. Yeah. Sudan.  

[00:40:38] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. So I mean, this is something that and and it's not just   this time. It happened last time an election, the power changed. It happened the time before that that the power changed.   I mean, the from what I from my understanding, the biggest reason that there are these genocides   is because of Europe.  

[00:40:59] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Europe,   drew the lines  

[00:41:02] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Of demarcate In in instead of instead of doing tribal zones,   they split the tribes up into multiple nations   Yep. And have multiple tribes in those nations. I mean, these tribes did not get along together before.  

[00:41:18] Jesse Fries:

Well, some of them did. It's just that when you put them both in the same spot, you know, it Yeah. It's like even in Kenya,   it is it's a tribal thing. The parties are generally based off of tribes.   Now there is some just political wrangling where like, with the last   the last president in Kenya   I think his name was Kenyatta,   but he was the son of the first president of Kenya,   that led the whole,   independence movement and everything like that. But, anyways, I think it was his son. His son,   there there's been this other guy who was part of that same movement with the original Kenyatta,   and he was the son of that a guy that was friends with Kenyatta.  

So the Okay. Like, he was, like, the first prime minister or, like, the, but not the first president or something like that or in the cabinet or something like that. Anyways, so, basically, it was like this this guy named Ruto,   from back in the sixties, he always wanted it in power. He never got it. Right?   Yep. And that and then his son came up and everything like that, went into politics and everything like that. And for   since   about 02/2007,   '2 thousand '9, something like that, he's been trying to become president.   Mhmm.  

And to the point where in, I think, 02/2012, there was some violence and everything like that.   Okay.   Massive protesters, people died, and everything like that. And so the US government and everybody   said that they had to form   a   a   a power sharing agreement with Ruto, the guy that lost.   And so they did. And so there was a prime minister of Kenya there for a minute,   but there never has been. It's just a president.   And so for a minute, there was, like, this power sharing with the prime minister.   And then they had presidential elections again, and Ruto   was trying to win again, and then he lost again   to Kenyatta.  

And then Kenyatta and him came up with this plan going, okay. See, this is where it comes into the power sharing thing. It was like then Kenyatta, he goes, okay. Okay, Ruto. We will,   I will   support you in the next election. So you will be the next president because I am supporting you. And Kenyatta, he is from the largest tribe in Kenya, the Kikuyu.   Yeah.   And so he's like, okay. We're gonna support you. The Kikuyu did not support him.   So this other guy, the current president, he comes in and he goes, okay. I'm president now. There is all this   hoopla and everything like that. It's like,   yeah. But yeah. So most of the time, it's tribal there. Even, political parties are roughly tribal. But every so often,   it does just get to politics. And they tried the politics, but still it was the tribal win Yeah. More or less. So  

[00:44:16] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yeah. I I remember   hearing conversations   with having conversations with mom about,   how your father-in-law   might be affected by what was going on over there and how he was had to be he had to, like, hide or something for a little while. No. No. He'd never had to I I didn't believe any of that, but that was what mom was saying.  

[00:44:39] Jesse Fries:

Well, there was violence, and so people stayed off the streets. That's basically what it was. You know? It was,   last time we were there,   there's supposed to be, like, a day of protests.   And so we just hold up in our compound,   swam in the pool,   and   didn't   even   see. Exactly. Exactly. It was a few days, but, you know, it wasn't a big deal. You know? Yep.   We had people bring us food and whatnot, so it was all good. Okay.   Yep.   Not a big deal. Okay. Let's see. What else do we got?   The Golden Dome we covered.   Oh, looks like, Trump is,   he's actually   streamlining   approval for nuclear reactors.  



[00:45:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I saw that.  

[00:45:33] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So it should actually make it easier to actually get nuclear reactors up and going here in The United States.  

[00:45:39] Jamon Fries:

Which would be really good.  

[00:45:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That would be really sweet. I would love to see that happen. You know? So   because renewables   they just don't have the   the only renewable   resource that is great is hydro.   Yes.   Just a dam.   It's the most perfect   renewable resource that we have. It really is. Yeah. Geo it Geo is   no that's good too. To an extent.   Yep. It it's not on a massive scale. Yeah. Not on a massive scale. Yep. Yeah.  

[00:46:12] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. Especially in The United States. Yeah. Right. Yes. Yes.   Geo and hydro are really the only two that are   really effective.   Yep.   If we could find a better way to do title,   I think that that would,   you know, which is also another another form of hydro. But Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Rather than using gravity over the falls, the you know, using the tides. Yep. Because nothing's going to stop the tides from happening.  

[00:46:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. But but that's a back and forth, and it's not always consistent.   Right. Yes. We don't. The the technology that we have isn't quite there yet for that. It it it's it's like, to me, the part of the problem with that technology, it's the back and forth. Back and forth   causes more strain than a constant one way Yes. Situation. That's very true. Yeah. It it it's like you can wrap a coil   around itself going the same way over and over and over again, and it won't break. You Right. Bend that back and forth and back and forth, it's gonna break. So Yep. That's true. Very true. Yeah. And then there's always that idea of the   solar,   satellite, whatnot, that beams powered down. Yeah.  

Yeah. So we could fry some birds while doing it. You know?   Thanksgiving   dinner brought to you by   falling out of the sky. Perfect. Brand new way to cook your turkey for sure. Uh-huh. Talk about microwave.   Yeah. Yeah.   Well, let's see here. And then the White House, they're trying to press pressure, The UK over that Lucy Connolly,   the lady who did some posts, some racist posts on, like, x or something like that.   And then she was sentenced to jail over this.   So   and this was even after she about that. Yeah. She took it down and everything like that real quick and apologized everything like that, even before the police showed up.   But over there in The UK, their laws are so stringent that Yeah. Yeah.  

So yeah. So she's gonna and she's old. She's   how old is she? She's a older lady. And she was basically just   complain this is right after   the knife attacks where,   the one   guy   killed,   children and everything like that. Yeah.   And yeah. So, basically, she's been sentenced   to   thirty one months   over social media posts. So  

[00:48:47] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. You know? That's what happens when you live in a country that doesn't have free speech.  

[00:48:53] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. And so because of that, the state department, they're looking to see what can actually be done.   See see if they can pressure. The the the it's a UK citizen over there. Everybody knows that there's really nothing that can be done, but there's pressure that you can put on these people and everything like that.   You know, it's like   nation building is a bad idea, but, you know, trying to get your people, especially   basically your mom,   for all intents and purposes Yes. To understand what they're doing is wrong.   You know, it's   I I I think that's the best, analogy for The UK. They're they're our parent,   and Yeah. Our   many of our ideas come from them. But, Yes. Yes. They're they're they're   in the long tradition,   you're doing wrong.  

You know? It's  

[00:49:41] Jamon Fries:

you know,   it's it's almost like, you know,   dealing with your grandparent that still thinks segregation   should exist and stuff like that. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:49:53] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. It's a yeah. Which definitely not. You know? Or anything like that. You know? It's a   let's see here. What else?  

[00:50:03] Jamon Fries:

Moderna And that was not our grandparents, by the way. No. No. No. No. At least that we know. They never sold it to me, but, you know, it's, The the there was only there was only one time that I ever heard anything about race at all from my grandparents.   Uh-huh.   And that was one time Damien   went   went there to to meet the grandparents,   and grandma was like,   he's black.   That that was it. That was the extent that was the extent of it.  

[00:50:32] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. In a small town like New Ulm, where you grew up around white people, only see white people, and there's maybe two black people, and then one's in your house. Yeah. It's like Yeah. He's he's black. Yeah. Okay. There you go. Yep. Yeah.   No big deal to me. Yeah. No. Absolutely.   Let's see here. Moderna,   the COVID vaccine shots and everything   so Moderna has pulled the application for FDA approval of their combo shot, you know, the flu   slash COVID shot,   or in other words, their flu shot because flu disappeared and COVID came that one year. Right. You know? I   yeah. But yeah. So they're stopping that,   and this is after the FDA actually called for clinical trials.  

Imagine that.  

[00:51:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   What? You wanna test our drug to see if it's safe? No. Sorry. We're we're not we don't wanna have this drug anymore.  

[00:51:27] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   And then the CDC, they have dropped their recommendation   for pregnant women and healthy children   to get the COVID shot.  

[00:51:37] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:51:38] Jesse Fries:

So which is a good thing.   Children   are not a problem with COVID at all. No. No. No. It's   it's just like, what is it? The hep b or something like that that they get that's only sexually transmitted and you're given it to newborns?   You know? It's like,   something's wrong there. Just say it. You know? It's  

[00:51:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   I mean well, yeah. You know? I mean, considering the stories that have come out in the past about,   you know, certain people in in the in the Democrat party and probably the Republican party too.   You know? The it's   there's reasons that they need to protect the kids by giving them the happy shots.  

[00:52:21] Jesse Fries:

Protecting themselves. That's just disgusting.   Shame. And how could you bring that up?   You know, if it didn't make the news, I wouldn't have known about it. No. I know. I know. There's a lot of sick fucks out there on both sides of the party. It's, and   I do mean party. They're about the same. So, you know, it's a Yeah.   Mega is the only difference, really. I think now Yeah. Nowadays.   But,   let's see here. What else do we got? Oh, Trump did the he put, like, what, 50% tariffs, and then he decided to change it,   to where now it's the ninth.  

Yeah. So  

[00:53:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   And the Fed has absolutely no idea how to deal with it now.  

[00:53:09] Jesse Fries:

Nobody does. This is Trump. We don't know what's going on. It's,  

[00:53:15] Jamon Fries:

Trump has Trump has his end goal, and he's just   playing and negotiating until he hits it, until he meets his end goal. No. He does. He does.  

[00:53:24] Jesse Fries:

By the polls, he's still doing well.   He's underwater, but what president hasn't been underwater?   Oh, yeah.   And he's only, like, a point or two underwater in the if you take every poll, some polls show him, like, way up. Some polls show them way down, you know. It it just just depends on the poll and everything like that. But yeah.  

[00:53:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, yeah. It's like,   one of the big things that they that they were talking about, you know, that Trump was brought in for was, you know, reducing food prices and stuff like that. Uh-huh.   And,   you know, I'm I'm starting to think that the price of eggs might be artificially high still in some places.  

[00:54:04] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. Yep. Because  

[00:54:08] Jamon Fries:

two of the grocery stores that I almost always shopped at,   eggs are   still damn near $5 a dozen.  

[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:

Jesus,   dude.  

[00:54:19] Jamon Fries:

And then I go and start shopping at Walmart.   Uh-huh.   I'm paying $3.50 for a dozen eggs again.  

[00:54:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:54:30] Jamon Fries:

So what the hell's up with these other two grocery stores?  

[00:54:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's a very good point. That's a very good point. Yeah. It's   that is completely crazy. It shouldn't be.   It's like here.   Looks like the cheapest I can get is about   well, actually, I could get the for $3.00 8.   So Yeah. If I go with the store brand. Yeah. I could.  

[00:54:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. At Walmart, the the a box of 60 eggs is only $16   now.  

[00:55:03] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:55:04] Jamon Fries:

I mean, that's a pretty damn good price. Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. It's, That's like that's   that that's definitely pre COVID prices.  

[00:55:14] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:55:16] Jamon Fries:

And yet the other grocery stores are still $5 a dozen?   No. That's price gouging, I think.  

[00:55:23] Jesse Fries:

Possibly. It depends on their supplier and everything like that. It's somebody's supplier might be doing the price gouging. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You don't know who is, but somebody might be. So it's Yeah.  

[00:55:33] Jamon Fries:

Somebody could be artificially inflating the prices to and   I wouldn't put it past people to do it for a political reason.  

[00:55:43] Jesse Fries:

True.   Yeah.   Or just money reason. But, yeah, I I can see the political as well. I could see the political as well, wanting to  

[00:55:52] Jamon Fries:

give it to him. Yeah. I mean, you know, if if they keep inflating the prices, then, you know, he'll never   make good on his promise to lower the prices.  

[00:56:04] Jesse Fries:

You you know, there is that. There is that.   Okay. What else do we got here? We seem to be   pausing too much in this time. It's not as smooth.   We do apologize for this live knot smoothness, people. We do. We do. We we truly apologize.  

[00:56:25] Jamon Fries:

Well, stick sticking with the knot smoothness.   Okay.   Back to Harvard again.  

[00:56:33] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:56:36] Jamon Fries:

I've read an interesting article that   Trump is, you know, all of the   on top of the   foreign students and stuff like that, he's also he has also mandated   that,   all of the government,   all the government bureaucracies   look at any contracts that they have with Harvard.   Uh-huh.   And if they're noncritical,   terminate them. If they're critical, see if they can find an alternative   vendor for for for use it for doing it. Basically   basically, they're they will he wants to take all government money away from Harvard now.  

[00:57:12] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. Right. Because Harvard's really fighting back, and so Yeah. Yeah. He wants And one thing one thing that he's doing though, I  

[00:57:21] Jamon Fries:

fully support.   He's taking a bunch of that money that could be that that normally goes to these high end institutions.   Uh-huh.   And he's going to give it to trade schools   for to to for them to Yeah. I heard that. Work in the research. Yeah. I heard that. I heard that. Yeah. I think that's awesome. I mean, finally, the trade schools are getting, like,   are being recognized   as being worthwhile   by the government.   Oh, yeah. Well, you can make really good money, in the trade. So, yeah, I I I don't see a problem with that. Yeah. I was It's, a I I was I was watching one video about it, and he's like, you know, I mean, everybody talks about, you know, the doctor and stuff like that, but   good plumber makes over a hundred thousand a year.  



[00:58:10] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They do. They do. Good. Because, you know, it's like getting rid of the waste   is very important as well. Just Yeah. You know, it's,   you know, all the trades. They they make beaucoup buddy. It's it's   labor is expensive, people. Just labor is so damn expensive. It's like Oh, yeah. I I just had to redo part of my fence, about 50 feet worth of my fence.   Mhmm. And I priced it out. If you go with a company, it would cost me about $2,000,   for them to put up.   I did it for $3.50.   Yeah.   Like, all new fence along one side. You know? It it's, some of the posts were still good, but so I didn't have to worry with some of them. But, otherwise,   most of the posts I had to take care of and everything like that, and it was, like, $3.50. You know? And   it was about   it was about maybe,   like, a full labor. I'd probably say about   three days work.  



[00:59:09] Jamon Fries:

Okay. So for a company doing it with professionals, it would have been maybe a day and a half.  

[00:59:15] Jesse Fries:

It would have been a day.   Yeah. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. They would have had, like,   three to five people on it. Right. Yes. With all the right machinery.   Yeah.  

[00:59:27] Jamon Fries:

It's amazing how quickly things can go when you have the right tools.  

[00:59:31] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. Yes. But I just I I just And and people that have experience doing it. Yes. Exactly. They could put up a fence like nobody's business, you know, when you're just trying to figure it out. It takes longer. So but Yeah.   Yeah. But you had a labor labor.  

[00:59:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And   it one of the one of the reasons that the price of labor is so high, though,   is because for so long,   everybody was, like, you know, every parents would look at construction workers and tell their kids, you don't wanna be like them. You need to make sure you go to school and you become a doctor or a lawyer or something like that. Right. Right. Yep.   So   a lot of there was a huge stigma on going into the construction industry or into the labor markets for quite a while. Oh, yeah. You know, they they were looked at almost as,   as third as,   you know,   I don't wanna say not quite human, but, you know, like, they're, like Well, they're blue collar.  



[01:00:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You know, they they they were looked down on because of blue collar, especially by the white collar.   You know? But you could have a really damn good life as a blue collar. There's nothing wrong with blue collar. You know? But but, you know, it's also, like that that takes me to this other article that I found. It was saying how a call right now, everybody is down on a college degree. Right? They're, like, going blah blah blah. You don't make enough money. You know? Blah blah blah. All this crap. Right?   Well, it's true, but this is   when you focus   solely on the financial.  

Yes. But when you focus on well-being   and what you like to do in life   Oh, yeah. It completely gets washed away.   Yeah. Yes. You have these crazy student debts and everything like that. But if you love what you're doing   Yeah. You you you know, yes, you didn't fully understand what you were doing when you got those student loans and everything like that because you go, oh, I need money. I need money now. I need to eat blah blah blah, place to live. And so you Yeah. Get into a bad situation.   Should there be some help to take care of that? I think so. Yeah. Get rid of the interest rate on it. Just wipe it out, and then it can go to principal, and we can pay you back. Or just have it at, like, inflationary   level or something like that. Yep.  

That's fine to me. But, otherwise,   it's not a bad thing. You know? It it's to and it was, like, 70%   of people going, yeah. I like what I do.   And that is what you should do. It shouldn't be there solely for money.   Nope. Your decision in life should be about what you want to do. Now   there there are caveats to that because you need to pay for things. You you need to support a family. So sometimes you may have to do what you don't wanna do. But Yeah.  

[01:02:16] Jamon Fries:

Your your goal in life should prove should be to provide the lifestyle that you want to live.   And as long as you can find a job that you enjoy   that does that,   you're golden.  

[01:02:29] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Exactly. It's like, some of these things, they're like social workers.   Yeah. You know, they go around and they help all these people with so many different issues.   Yep.   They make   dick.   Oh, yeah. Really? They do. You you know, I think Lesser teachers are the same. Yeah. No. I think teachers make more, especially when you equate that they don't work for a third of the year.  

[01:02:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. There are also though a lot of schools where   any expense that the teacher has, the teacher has to pay it themselves.   Yeah. That that that's, that's There are some of them out there like that still. Yeah. That's that. I've heard that, but I I I don't know. But, anyways,  

[01:03:15] Jesse Fries:

beyond that, it's,   it's like when you do something for a passion, you might not actually get   paid. Yeah. If it's your passion, you may not make a lot of money there. And if it's something that people aren't really willing to pay for, it's like social work.   Yeah. Unfortunately, you know, society goes, okay. Yes. This is needed. We need to do this.   But   nobody really wants to.   So,   you know, nobody really wants to pay for that. So, you know, it's like, yeah, you you you get what you can get. You know? But Yeah. You know, for  

[01:03:51] Jamon Fries:

for some people,   the reason that they don't wanna pay for it is because,   unfortunately, even in social work, there are some people that are in it for the wrong reasons.  

[01:04:02] Jesse Fries:

No. I I don't think that's why. I don't think that's why. I know that that's I know there's always that. But I think it's it's just   when it comes to social issues like mental disease and so on and so forth Yeah. It it's just one of these things we we   it's an issue that we want swept under the rug.   Yes.  

[01:04:22] Jamon Fries:

That is what it is. Yeah. You you know, it's The the only the only time they was they seem to wanna take it out from under the rug   is when someone with mental disabilities   is   is,   is either killed or arrested by the police for doing what they normally do.  

[01:04:41] Jesse Fries:

Well right. Right. And I can understand, the argument that police should I I can understand the arguments for   I,   I've been on this trend of TikTok where it's just basically asshole cops being assholes.   So, you know, it's just like,  

[01:04:59] Jamon Fries:

I I need to I need to get off of it, but it's like it's like a train wreck. Well, when you see when you see the worst of what the you when you see the worst of what they do  

[01:05:08] Jesse Fries:

I know. You know? It's it it can definitely jade your mind on it. Yeah. It's like, why are you bothering this guy, dude? He was just photo weed, you know, taking a video of your   I   I unfortunately, I'm stuck in that on my TikTok. I I need I I keep trying to get rid of it, but then I see one and then I'm gonna go then I'm engrossed and then it's like, your your algorithm   has you trapped. And then my algorithm   keeps pulling it even more at me. And then Yeah. Oh, it was like   it was like,   apparently,   Amazon canceled the Wheel of Time series,   TV show. Yeah. And and so I I saw this. I   was I saw it in one   person talking about it. I'm like, oh, wow. It was canceled. Right? And then   I   I read the comments, so it was stuck on that video playing over and over again for way too long to where the algorithm   thought I wanted to see people bitching and complaining that Amazon canceled the Wheel of Time series. Now   I've read the Wheel of Time many times. I love the Wheel of Time books. Right?  



[01:06:13] Jamon Fries:

Right.  

[01:06:14] Jesse Fries:

The show sucked. I'm sorry. The show sucked. Yeah. It it it it changed the magic.   It Mhmm. Changed the characters   to to the point where they weren't even the characters anymore. They were had a different personality.   You you you know? It's like every and people are going, oh, well, you sometimes that sometimes they change things for the TV, and I go, yes. Yes. I understand that. You know, there there there's the complaints about, like, the, Lord of the Rings. I understand those complaints, but they kept the characters the characters.   They did not change who these characters were. They did not change their personalities.  

You know, they did not change that it's like it it it in the show, it was like, they were all supposed to be three young boys, and it was a coming of age story for the boys. Yes. Right? And most of the girls, you know. Yeah.   This one, they were, like, 25,   something like that. One was married and everything like that.   I don't know if you know the characters, but Perrin was, like, married in this and and he was but in the book, he was a, yeah, he was married when the trollocs attacked in the first one, and they killed his wife.   Oh, no. No. No.  

Right. Right. Right. And and that it was like they changed how that whole town society works to where the women had to, like, jump off of, off a waterfall or something like that to become a woman.   That's how it's the whole show started.   And, yeah, you know, you're like, no.   This is not it's and and they changed the magic. They changed   you know, I can understand changing some things. You know? I can understand   they they they they got rid of the how   there's a difference between male and female magic and whatnot. I can understand getting rid of that.   You know, just just   for simplicity.  

You know? I get Yeah. But it's still the men would go mad and everything like that. They kept that. But, you know, it was   overall, they just changed so much. And then it was like the last season, they   they killed off   there there was a leader of the the basically, the witches. I guess that's the best way to   but the witches. Yeah. The little she she in the real story   in the books,   she was,   ousted,   and her magic was taken away. Right?   In the show, they killed her. Just   off.   But she she but her character is integral into the end of the series in the book Yeah. Because she has the experience to help lead, and, also, she gets her magic back and so on and so forth. But they killed her and her, partner,   her   assistant. My god.  

Yeah. Just like She was like It's no longer the wheel of time. No. It really isn't. It really isn't. They they they took bits and pieces and then told a completely new story.  

[01:09:10] Jamon Fries:

Not only that like what they did with Snow White.  

[01:09:13] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. Yes. It it not only that, but it was like,   what they did is because it was a coming of age story   and generally around the three boys.   Right. But there was also around the girls as well from the same village.   Yep.   And so with that, you know,   it was that,   but they changed it to where the focus of it was actually Moraine.   So the the the the Asadai or witch that found yeah. Yeah. She became the protagonist. She was she was the lead she was the   the draw for the show was I and I don't even know who this actress is. Seriously, I have no clue she who she is, but they're going, oh, she's such a great actress. I'm like, who the fuck is she?   Anyway and so it all became about her.  

And then in this last story, in this last season,   so in the book, she dies. Right?   Or supposedly, you know, she dies. And then so they killed her off in this one. So I think everybody goes it was about money.   I think they couldn't actually write their way out of their ass is what I really think it was. Yeah. I I think they're good.   Can can you actually write yourself out of this? How does any of this actually lead up? You you you killed those people. You killed this.   How are you actually gonna make any of this   work? You've changed so much.  

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You you know, it's they they they skipped   the third book also in the whole process. They just completely   skipped the third book,   which is, to me, is actually one of my favorite books out of the whole series.   It's called the Dragon Reborn, you know, and they just skipped it. They just completely skipped it.  

[01:10:57] Jamon Fries:

I that's that's an important book in the series too. I I thought so. I thought so. But, yeah, it it  

[01:11:03] Jesse Fries:

it it it changed, but the real change was that   I'm going on a rant here, but the real change is that it was a coming of age story, and then it be and then they changed it into a woman empowerment,   Yeah. Story, which it   it was never that, but it wasn't also not that because there was women empowerment in the story. There was all this in the story. Yeah. Well, you know, when when you look in when you look at books written in the past,  

[01:11:30] Jamon Fries:

there were always the strong female characters.   Well, right. In in in a in a large majority of those in the of the books that I've read, there have always been very strong female   female characters. Yeah.   Why can't they just accept that there are strong female and strong male roles   in these shows? Instead, they have to make it all about how the woman's taking her power back.  

[01:12:00] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Or yeah. Yeah. It's all about and I've seen interviews with these ladies. It's like, oh, it's about women empowerment. I'm like, what? That's not what the story was about. No. You you know? It it was a story of life.   You know? See, that's the thing. It's like when you try   to go down these rabbit holes of, like, oh, this empowerment, that empowerment.   It's   the story is about   young kids struggling   Yeah.   With   unbelievable   stress   Oh, yeah. Insane. Try trying to make it in life.  

[01:12:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:12:36] Jesse Fries:

Trying to find their way. And in the end, people that you don't think will die, die, and then the ones that you you think are gonna survive, survive or die will survive and so on and so forth. Yep. It's this you never know what it's gonna be. You know? It's Yeah. That that to me, that was the story. It wasn't   empowerment, this empowerment, this. Yeah. You know? Some of you are powerful. Go for it. Strong characters. Yes. And then yeah.   Yeah. Anyways   so, yes, I'm actually glad that they canceled it. Just saying. Because Oh, yeah. I I don't know where they were gonna good to good to go with it. It was a pure shit show in my book. So Yep. Absolutely.   And that is my review of the We Live Time series.  

Piece of shit.   Just saying. Well, no. You you of the of the TV show. Oh, TV show. Yes. Yes. Yes. And not the the scandal. No. The books. I love the books. You you know? The books are awesome. Yes.   Both the writers, Robert Jordan,   he   he got a bit long winded there, I I will admit. Mhmm.   But then Brandon's,   Brandon Sanderson, he really wrapped it up nicely in the last three books. He really did. Oh, yeah. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Yep. Absolutely.  

[01:13:48] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So so we were talking about education  

[01:13:51] Jesse Fries:

and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. I forgot.  

[01:13:54] Jamon Fries:

And I I've   did you hear the,   the   sixty minutes anchor, his, his   speech at at at a university?   No.   He kept talking about how everything is under   attack. The press is under attack. Free speech is under attack.   He he would he went as far as telling these kids the you really shouldn't bother trying to do anything because it's not good. Because the whole hell, you know, world is a hell in a hand basket right now.  

[01:14:30] Jesse Fries:

Okay. That's when you have to try even harder.  

[01:14:33] Jamon Fries:

And I'm like, yeah. I'm like,   you you compare that   to say   one of Trump's speeches   at a graduation   Yeah. Where he's like, I don't care how young there's there's absolutely no reason   to not think you're going to succeed.   No. Your age is not something that's going to prevent you from doing whatever you wanna do.  

[01:14:58] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[01:14:59] Jamon Fries:

I mean, just just the the difference.   But   the it and then I read something else about Harvard again.   Harvard is now trying to get   lower class families into Harvard.  

[01:15:16] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[01:15:18] Jamon Fries:

They always have a bit. So But they're going to an extreme now.   Uh-huh.   So right the the current policy the the old policy was if you made   if your family had a had a lower income than 82,000   a year,   then you could get a full ride at at Harvard.  

[01:15:37] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:15:39] Jamon Fries:

They've now bumped that up to 200,000.  

[01:15:42] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:15:43] Jamon Fries:

You get a full ride at Harvard.   If   you make less than a hundred if your family makes less than a hundred thousand   Uh-huh. Not only do you get the full ride, but you also get full health care benefits  

[01:15:55] Jesse Fries:

from Harvard. Oh, okay. Okay.   See, to me,  

[01:16:01] Jamon Fries:

I I I I think you think that this is a negative thing, right, in general? Oh, no. No. No? No? Okay. No? Okay. Okay. I I have absolutely no problem with Harvard doing that to try to get people that   don't relate to them into their into their school. Yeah. And also  

[01:16:18] Jesse Fries:

use their endowment   for Christ's sakes. These places have all this Absolutely. Have billions of dollars, and they just hoard it. Yeah. Yep. Give free tuition   completely.   That's what people want anyways. You know? It's,   it's why I would give money to people so you can help out   the next generation, not so you can hoard. Absolutely. So it's, Yeah.  

[01:16:40] Jamon Fries:

I have absolutely no problem with with colleges   giving sweet deal sweet bonuses and deals to   the students that  

[01:16:49] Jesse Fries:

are worthy of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely.  

[01:16:53] Jamon Fries:

I I was just shocked at how at the   at how much   how how high your income could be to receive those benefits. You know, 200,000   and getting free getting free   tuition, that that's kind of insane for a college.  

[01:17:09] Jesse Fries:

It really is. And with that, you know, you could help us here at the mindless meanderings with value for value. You can help us out so that we don't get free education.   Please help us to send   money to us so that we could continue these endeavors. Please help us out. You could be a producer. We will mark you as a producer on our show. You that will go with you forever. You can put it on your CV, your resume, and everything like that.   Or you can send us ideas on topics and everything like that. You can send those to me at jesse@minusme,uh,minusc.com,   or you could also email jamen@jamenatmindlessmeandrians.com.  

Anything it could help. You wanna do some music for us? You wanna draw a little picture for us? Anything. I will take it. I will even put it up. Right now, as long as it's not   too offensive, I will put it out there for you guys. It's a   just not too offensive. Yeah. I I I will edit it. I I will be a bit of an editor.   When you   little bit of the control at least. A little bit. A little bit. But, yeah, jesse@mindlessc.com   and jamie@mindlessmeanderings.com.   Anything can help. You can help also,   with   how much this actually costs to produce.   It does because it does cost money to produce. Any amount can help. $10, hundred dollars, it doesn't matter. Just help us out.  

And let's see here. Let's go on to some funny stories. We're getting a bit long winded here, and Yep.   I need to feed the kids because they're probably eating each other right now.   Gotta watch out for those 10 and seven year olds. You know? They just Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   You know, it's just like the Gen z. Apparently,   Gen z doesn't know how to adult, as they say.   Adulting is hard. I hate that word, by the way, everybody. I hate the word adulting.   To me, it's not a word.   And so my wife says I'm adulting just to piss me off. You know?   Gotta love marriage. And I really don't get pissed off. It's just a bit annoying. But, anyways, they don't know basic life skills. They don't know how to do laundry. They don't know how to do   put gas in the car. They don't know how to do they don't know how to sew. They don't know how to cook. They don't know how to boil water for pasta.  

Seriously, these people don't know how to do this crap.   Yeah.   And so, you know, what we should all do is, like, charge them to teach them.   Absolutely.   And it looks like some people are doing in,   for adulting one zero one, crash courses, they're taking on how to, cook   pasta and whatnot. So Nice. Nice. How to change a tire. You know? It's like   Yeah. Yeah. The the stuff that, your parents were supposed to teach you. Yeah. Last time I checked. Yeah. Yeah. But how how many parents actually know how to do that even now? You know? It's like  

[01:20:00] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean,   changing a tire, definitely not something dad would have thought us.  

[01:20:08] Jesse Fries:

Actually, I probably learned from him because that's just he wasn't good to pay somebody to change a tire.   Like, on the side of the road, he changed tires.  

[01:20:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I say I don't know. I've I've never actually been around   I've never been around him when he had a when when there was a blowout. So   Maybe I'm just I've never seen that. I don't think I've ever heard of it.  

[01:20:30] Jesse Fries:

Do anything. Yeah. Usually, he goes, my job was to pay people to do their job.  

[01:20:36] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. My job my my sole purpose on life is to keep mechanics employed.  

[01:20:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Maybe we just got from the Geese Geese side. Maybe that's just what we do. That could be. Yeah.   Yeah. Mom's side, they're they know how to do stuff. So maybe that's why we know how to do stuff, you know. It's a who knows?  

[01:20:56] Jamon Fries:

I don't know how to do stuff. I'm like that.   I can I can change my tire? No problem. But,   outside of that, no. I don't touch a vehicle.  

[01:21:06] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Well, I know how to do stuff.   Let's see here.   Let's see. It looks like Elon Musk is disappointed in Trump's big beautiful bill.   Yeah. Which it's a crap bill if you ask me. So yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm right there with Elon Musk on that. You know, it just shows that they're not all sycophants up there.  

[01:21:26] Jamon Fries:

Yep. When you're when you're when when you heard when your entire purpose in working with the government   is to reduce   how much money is being spent Yes. Yes. And then You know? And the bill that that Trump wants is a very expensive bill.  

[01:21:43] Jesse Fries:

See, I don't think Trump actually cared what it was. It's just what Congress put together. Yeah. Yeah. The the that's how it  

[01:21:50] Jamon Fries:

that's how Trump works and What what Trump's Trump's biggest   deal was he wanted to get the extension of the,   of the tax credits and stuff that that were passed in his first term. He wants to make those permanent. I mean, that that was his big deal.  

[01:22:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But we're just adding to the deficit like we always do. So Like always. Yeah. Exactly.   Did you hear about the, the cap fight?  

[01:22:17] Jamon Fries:

Yes. I did.  

[01:22:19] Jesse Fries:

So two female secret service agents start getting into a fight. They were part of Obama's,   crew. It was outside his house. They started getting into a fight. Actual physical fight.  

[01:22:33] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I one of one of the things that I read, it was it was talking about how   one of the one of the ladies   radioed in saying, you need to get this lady out of here, or I'm gonna put her ass on the ground.  

[01:22:46] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Yep.   Let's see here.   Then we have French. We could cover the French. Apparently, there's a pizza chef. He confessed to killing reclusive men by chopping them up and cooking their body parts,   in a pot of vegetables.   Mhmm. And then he would serve it.  

[01:23:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:23:09] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Yeah. I love that. Right? Oh, yeah. The French are so cultured.   Absolutely. And they're so cultured that the   their the president's wife decided to smack them live on TV.  

[01:23:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I didn't notice it when I was putting the the,  

[01:23:30] Jesse Fries:

the headlines together, but all of your international news is about the French. It it is. It is. But this way is just this way is just hilarious because they're in Vietnam. Right? Or he was in Macron was in Vietnam, and his wife was there with him.   And   the video was he was the door just opened.   He turns around,   and then you could tell by her outfit and everything like that that, his wife just pushed and slapped him a bit on the face.   Right? Mhmm.   And then they made up all these stories and everything like that about, oh, no. It's not that. Everything like that. But then,   somebody   decided to do a lip reading   situation.  

Where's that story? Where did I put that?   But, basically, she called him a loser.   And,   the this was after,   the smack and everything like that. And he goes, can we just get on? And she goes, nope.   So   yeah. Yeah. That was,   poor guy.   That's what you get when you marry old lady. I'm just saying. You know? It's a Yeah. No. Absolutely.   Let's see here. And then a French report said that,   Islamists are starting   to damage national cohesion over there.   So which   if you bring in a lot too large of a group, it can destroy cohesion amongst a group in your nation. So   to me, that has always been the problem. It hasn't been anything else. So they always invite some in as long as they're willing to assimilate. They have to assimilate. If they don't assimilate, they have to get the fuck out. Plain and simple.  

And and the old generation that has a  

[01:25:23] Jamon Fries:

And and they space they say specifically the Islamist. But, I mean,   it it would be It's anybody. If you brought if you brought Yes. Too many Chinese, if you brought too many Mexican, if you brought too many Americans, if you brought too many   Yes. If France were if France were to bring too many Brits in   Yes. It would it would destroy the cohesion.  

[01:25:41] Jesse Fries:

It it would because they would   and the right way to do it is, like, the first generation, yes, there's always   tension there. They they hold up in their groups and everything like that. But then it's the second generation   that actually starts to, like,   they they become completely adopted in,   the culture Yes. More or less. Yeah. You know, there are always some cultural differences, you know, like, like   Italian Americans.   Right? Mhmm. This is a group that they're Americans, one hundred percent America.   But   instead of having a turkey or this for, like, Thanksgiving and whatnot, they're having lasagna and spaghetti and everything like that, you know, for it it's just all the their families are a bit different. You know? They're a bit louder and everything like that. You know? And it's a great thing as those slight differences,   but also   being   also completely accepting America.  

Yes.   You know? And just helping   and it will change society over time a little bit. Oh, yeah. But if it's a quick long a a quick thing, yeah, that can really cause a lot of problems. And that's what's happening over in France and in The UK, to be honest, and much of Europe, actually, right now. So Yep.   And it's why a lot of people on the right want to limit it even here in The United States because you can't have too many come in just for national cohesion.  

[01:27:01] Jamon Fries:

You know? Well, yeah. But then if you don't Yeah. You you can look at Michigan to see that. You know? If if if   if what went down in Michigan was allowed to happen everywhere in The US,   I mean, it would be bad.  

[01:27:17] Jesse Fries:

You mean, like, Dearborn and whatnot?   Yeah.   I I don't   yeah. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. If it's too much and too many segregated groups and everything like that. That that's why, like, down here in Texas,   the governor said that he's gonna stop that one town being built that was basically only gonna be a Muslim town.   Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. It was, they were just gonna build it from script. Yeah. They were gonna build a development,   outside Dallas that was basically   it was just gonna be run by Sharia law and whatnot, basically.   Or at least that's what the news story has happened. Yeah. No. No. No Sharia law. You know, you can have internal   courts for   religion, but if it affects anything out beyond actual religious things, no. Yeah. Don't tell people how to live. Don't tell people how to address. Don't none of that crap. Yep. As long as it it as long as it doesn't affect the laws of the land, I don't really care what you're doing internally  

[01:28:22] Jamon Fries:

once you've once it gets to the point where   you try to overpower the laws of the land with your own with with your church's laws, that's where the problem comes in. Or just cultural laws. You you know, it's like Yeah.  

[01:28:34] Jesse Fries:

I don't mind being modest, you know, and some of it's weird, you know. Oh, yeah. Like,   married, Jewish women,   like the Orthodox ones, they wear wigs because they can't show their hair, to anybody outside the family.   You you know, that's fine, but at least it looks like hair. I think that's why they went with wigs, actually, so that they could be accepted into other societies. Otherwise, it probably would have been just, like, like, Islam. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, it'd probably just be like Islam,   with the,   hijab and everything like that. So Yep. Yep. It's probably why they did it, I bet. Same cultural Probably. Beginning points, at least.  



[01:29:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. For the most part.  

[01:29:10] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. What else do we got?   Microplastics. They're gonna kill us, just so you know.   Yep. And they're everywhere. They are everywhere. All your food comes from plastic. It's covered in plastic. Everything. I swear to god. It's in the water you drink. It it's everywhere. Yeah. You you you you go oh, I I I was trying to, like, limit plastic and everything like that, and I still might a little bit, but it's like, you all your meat comes in plastic.   Your vegetables, you put into a plastic bag to bring home. Even if it's Yep.   This is how it is. You know?  

Who cares about the actual bag that you get the,   grocery bag? I don't care about that, but   every bag is there. All packaging is plastic. Everything is plastic.   It doesn't matter. You you know, it's like a side of beef.   Do do you know how that shipped?   Wrapped in   plastic. Yeah.  

[01:30:01] Jamon Fries:

So it's like, of course, I know how a side of beef is shipped.  

[01:30:05] Jesse Fries:

I know. I know. The whole beef.   Yeah. Yeah. But it's wrapped in plastic. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So It's all shrink wrapped.   Yeah. So everything is just it's plastic. Everything is plastic. So   yeah. We're just gonna just just wait a hundred years from now, people are going, can you believe how stupid those people were? Wrapping everything in plastic.   Stupid, stupid people. We say it about ourselves,   about our ancestors,   about things. But,   yeah.   Let's see here. Anything else exciting on your end that we wanna cover? Or  

[01:30:43] Jamon Fries:

I've got a couple in the tech in the tech world that were interesting to me. Okay.   The   China has now developed an AI that they claim can predict,   stellar flares.   Solar flares? Or Stellar flares is what they is what they say.   Basically,   stars that are farther away. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah.   So that's kinda cool.   They they they think that they can use that to get a much better prediction on   what planets might be able to hold life.  

[01:31:20] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. That's cool, though.  

[01:31:24] Jamon Fries:

They've also   it's a it's kind of sad that all the tech news that I was interested in was coming out of China. But   they've, you know, they China's had that huge electronic vehicle push   Uh-huh. And they've really adopted it into the into their trucking industry pretty heavily.   Uh-huh.   And they've   kind of figured out one way to eliminate the problem of the of having to do the long charges.   Uh-huh. And that is to   have   depots with just racks of batteries, and you pull in there and you do a battery exchange   rather than anything else. So they're they changed where they're putting the battery to make it much easier to take the battery off and put a new one in. Oh, nice. Nice.   So rather than, you know, rather than having to worry about a quick charger or something like that, you know, that that would be something that you can that you could utilize. Go in there ten minutes to get the battery changed out, and you're back out on the road again. So Oh, yeah. It it's I I know they do it for taxis in some areas.  



[01:32:28] Jesse Fries:

Yep. To where they just change out the battery in a car in Yeah. Two minutes,   and it's all good to go. It's it's pretty sweet system. Yeah. No. I I I don't know why we don't do that. I'd be fine with that or really quick charging. I don't care which way you go. Yeah. As long as you can get on the road in a matter of a couple minutes, that's all I care about. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[01:32:47] Jamon Fries:

Without a doubt.   Then here in The US, Elon Musk's Neuralink has raised,   has raised $600,000,000   Okay. To further their studies.   I guess, they, you know, they've gotten the approval to from the government to to start using it on people.   Uh-huh.   And there were there have been three people that they've put it into so far.   One of them couldn't talk can't talk at all.   But using the Neuralink,   they've they've gotten really heavy into   web design and stuff like that. So,   she's they're creating   all sorts of communication tools and stuff like that on the Internet.  

[01:33:29] Jesse Fries:

Oh, that's cool. So That's cool.   That was really cool. Yeah. I I got some, kinda funny things and whatnot that we can finish off with.   So, apparently, some experts say we need to bring back masks because a new COVID strain is. All I gotta say is fuck you. No. I'm not wearing a putting on a mask again. Yeah. Not doing it.   Yeah. Oh, they say, oh, it's contagious. Yeah. And so has everything been, but we're all fine.   Yes. I know some people died.   But   most of that was due to bad performance on doctors. They didn't know how to treat it. They treated it like a different illness beyond just a regular illness.   Yep.  

And, apparently, humans give off light.   Actually, all living things give off a little bit of light. Just so little that we can't even see it.   Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was interesting.   Let's see here.  

[01:34:27] Jamon Fries:

Kinda makes me wonder why stadiums and a concert aren't a little bit brighter then.   When you get that many people together, I mean, there should be some impact, shouldn't there?  

[01:34:39] Jesse Fries:

I don't think it's a cumulative sort of situation.   Okay. Okay. Uh-huh.   Let's see here. To keep on the Harvard front, apparently,   Harvard actually fired a professor   because they fabricated research on dishonesty.   So,   you gotta love that, you know. So it's like, you know.  

[01:35:00] Jamon Fries:

You know, when when you're researching dishonesty,   why be honest about it?  

[01:35:05] Jesse Fries:

That's what I'm saying. That is what I am saying. You know, just be dishonest about the dishonesty. And if Yeah. Two and and is it like a math or, like, English language? If there's two   dishonesties, does that mean it's a positive? Two negative? Yeah.  

[01:35:21] Jamon Fries:

Do two negatives make a positive?  

[01:35:23] Jesse Fries:

Two dishonest things equals truth. Is is that is that how it's working? That's what I'm thinking. It it's yeah. I mean, that's an obvious conclusion.   And then, you know,   in how to size things. You've seen things. Oh, it's the size of a school bus. This asteroid is a size of a bowling ball.   Well,   I've only seen this in one   thing. It was like, like, the Jew, Jerusalem Post or something like that. Okay. They actually said that asteroid was the size of 12 and a half gorillas.   12 and a half gorillas. How do you even measure this sort of situation?   Did did they, like, take a picture of the asteroid and then put pictures of gorillas on it to figure that out? I I have no clue. Did did did it get, like, a weight measurement and go, well, this is a what what what animal can we throw in there? You know? Yeah. It's like Yeah.  

This   asteroid   is   2,000,000   ants. That's how big it is. 200 Yeah. It's like,   12 and a half gorillas.   Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah.   That's it. And with that, we thank you for joining us for episode number 39 of the minus meanderings podcast.   We'll work on it. We'll get better.   Help send us some money so we can get even better. And I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries.   And you guys have a great week.