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A live recoded roaming conversation between brothers covering the pope and other things.

Hosted by: 

- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:18) Introduction and Raccoon Incident

(00:00:44) Protests and Safety Concerns

(00:03:52) China and Tariff Talks

(00:05:55) Impact of Politics on Daily Life

(00:06:03) Trump's Baby Incentive Plan

(00:09:16) Childbirth Study and Inducing Labor

(00:12:19) Sperm Race

(00:13:38) Tariffs on Foreign Movies

(00:17:13) TSA and Real ID Implementation

(00:18:12) Government Audits and Corruption

(00:23:13) Pentagon's Top Brass Reduction

(00:26:40) Supreme Court and Military Policies

(00:27:30) Military Arrest Records Error

(00:29:31) Germany's Surveillance on AFD

(00:32:14) Political Shifts in Europe

(00:36:06) Protests and Free Speech

(00:41:24) India-Pakistan Conflict

(00:45:05) Historical Conflicts and Resolutions

(00:51:08) Israel's Conquest Mode in Gaza

(00:54:18) Taiwan-China Relations

(00:56:00) Automobile Tariffs and Pricing

(00:58:00) Poland's Nuclear Ambitions

(01:01:05) NFL Draft and Racial Discrimination Lawsuit

(01:03:01) Newark Airport's Air Traffic Issues

(01:11:57) Weight Watchers Bankruptcy and Ozempic

(01:16:39) FTC Bans Hidden Fees

(01:22:01) Alcatraz Reopening Proposal

(01:23:48) Teen Activity and Depression Study

(01:27:00) Diet and Menstruation Study

(01:30:12) Google's Nuclear Power Plans

(01:32:01) Antarctica's Ice Gain

(01:34:55) Pope's Conclave History

(01:39:01) SpaceX's Starbase Town

(01:42:02) NFL Fan Lawsuit and JD Vance's Joke

[00:00:19] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody.   It is Wednesday,   May 7, somehow. And we are live with episode number 36 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries,   and apparently, the Ohioan   police or   cops in Ohio,   just busted a raccoon with a meth pipe in its mouth.   Nice.  

[00:00:42] Jamon Fries:

Right? And I'm Jamin Freese.   And,   you know, I've I've I've noticed something a little bit   that it I never would have even paid any attention to it, but   there there was a story there was a news article about the,   people   protesting   in Israel to for them to make a deal to to release the hostages.   Uh-huh.   And   it it just suddenly struck my mind.   Why is it the protesters   always only protest where they're gonna be safe?   They should be protesting over in Gaza against the Hamas right now to release the prisoners, shouldn't they?   Yeah. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. Yeah. I mean, you you you you know, there there's supposedly these strong, upright, moral people   Yep. Who only   protest when they know that they're gonna be safe.  



[00:01:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You mean, like, what? Antifa just,   like, attacked   the University of Washington?   Yeah.   I saw somewhere that,   like, DHS,   like, what? The rest of, like, 30 some, 20 some people for terrorism because of it. So Yep.  

[00:01:56] Jamon Fries:

I it's it's I just find it amazing how these people can can think that they're heroes and that they're brave   when they, when everyone knows that nothing will happen to them because of where they are.  

[00:02:10] Jesse Fries:

Well, if they're brought up on federal charges  

[00:02:13] Jamon Fries:

Well, they they may get arrested, but, I mean, physical harm and stuff like that. It's it's not like in in China.   When someone pro when when people protest in China, there's a good chance they're gonna end up dead.  

[00:02:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. True. True. And, actually, they have been protesting. Have you heard this? True brave oh, yeah. Yeah. They're they're it's been pretty wild over there lately. Yeah. They want back pay and everything like that to Yeah. It's,  

[00:02:37] Jamon Fries:

but, I mean, you know, that   that's somewhere where those protesters   are not safe.   You know, if the government got it into their mind, they would no longer be alive.   Whereas   these protests I mean, it it probably won't go to that point, but it has in the past.   Well, yeah. Like the extreme. I'd say probably more just reeducation camps or something like that. Right. Right. But, you know, I mean, you you can just look back not too long in the past Tiananmen Square. You know? I mean, it has happened. So Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. There there's no guarantee of physical safety in China if you're protesting the government.  

[00:03:13] Jesse Fries:

Right. But the Chinese don't know about Tiananmen Square.  

[00:03:16] Jamon Fries:

So Yeah. Because they've whitewashed everything, and they they now I I read an article saying that they they now say that it's that it was a bunch of,   European   extreme white extremists   that got killed there.  

[00:03:30] Jesse Fries:

Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Yeah. Like, wow. Yeah.  

[00:03:34] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:03:36] Jesse Fries:

Well, you gotta wonder what we think is real and what actually isn't. You know? Oh, yeah. No kidding.  

[00:03:42] Jamon Fries:

Any government will twist any information that they that they can. Oh, no kidding. No kidding.  

[00:03:52] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   What do we got? Anything entertaining?   Just,   well, with China, sticking with China.   Yeah. It looks like there's gonna be talks.   We're gonna have,   tariff   talks with them, but maybe not. Yep.   Yep. The latest headline,   from Bessett,   he said   that   it wasn't it was   just to talk about deescalation. It wasn't actually to talk about,   like, removing the tariffs or even reducing the tariffs. It was just to, like, deescalate   the tensions is all that it actually was for. So  

[00:04:31] Jamon Fries:

Well, you have to do that before you can really get into too much of a discussion No. It's true. Nitty gritty facts. So   Yeah. I mean, it's definitely definitely an important step, which   has, you know, as as I mentioned before the show, which has   led to the gold prices of gold to drop.  

[00:04:48] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   Yeah. But, really,   I don't know about you, but so far, this whole China thing hasn't really affected my life at all.  

[00:04:59] Jamon Fries:

No. No.   My life is very boring anyways.   So   no.   No. You know, I I've I've been paying attention to everything as time goes by, you know, whether we have a Democrat in office or a Republican office or anything like that. Uh-huh. And, honestly, my life hasn't been affected in any way   regardless of who's in office and what they're trying to do. Same here. Same here.  

[00:05:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Nothing's really changed. It's like No.   COVID was a big fuck up. You know? That was, Oh, yeah. But,   beyond that, it's all been the same no matter what. You know? It's, Yeah.   Yeah. I don't care either way.   Let's see here.   Anything   else?  

[00:05:56] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, I've got   the the,   talking about Trump a little bit.   The,   he has   well,   he hasn't, but I guess, the administration,   somebody,   proposed the plan to   pay   people to have babies.  

[00:06:18] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, $5 or something. $55  

[00:06:21] Jamon Fries:

for each kid that you pop out. Okay.   I would I personally   would alter that a little bit   Mhmm. To $5   per married couple that   had popped the kid out.   Because I'm I'm sorry, but we don't need more single parent kids. You know, I mean, it it was the  

[00:06:44] Jesse Fries:

We just need more Americans, Jayme. That that that's all that's all he's trying to do. He I don't think he cares if it's   Yeah. And you know something? It's   okay. $5.   That'll cover what? The hospital bill?   If that?   Yeah.   And that's really about it. So it's like, okay. You could have, free delivery. Yeah. There you go. Well, the the article that It's like it's it's like pizza used to be. You know? Yes. Yeah.  

[00:07:10] Jamon Fries:

The article the article that I was reading, it was,   kind of a hit piece on his on his plan for the 5,000.   No.   You know, this $5,000,   it doesn't do anything. It it barely even scratches the   scratches the ground as far as what it's really gonna cost are gonna be. Duh.   And,   you know, it was like,   what we really need to do is make sure that they have more money for every   year.   So their proposed you know, right now, it you get the $2,000   child child tax credit. Uh-huh.   Well,   that is set to expire at the end of the year.  

[00:07:53] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:07:54] Jamon Fries:

And what Trump with his big deal is trying to extend it. But they're sitting there they're they're sitting here saying $5 is nothing when this tax credit is expiring.   I'm like, yep. But they're trying to to extend it, and Democrats are not going along with it. So  

[00:08:12] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Because that's how politics works. Yeah. If the other side is trying to do it, you have to stop it. That that that's how American politics has gotten. You know?  

[00:08:20] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. But now the Democrats are trying to push a   6 oh, like, $6,300   a year for the first five years of a child's life,   and then drop that to 3,400   for the for up through 17.  

[00:08:37] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:08:38] Jamon Fries:

Every year is a tax credit for having a kid.  

[00:08:44] Jesse Fries:

Tax credit or just a   okay. So you would get a extra back from the  

[00:08:50] Jamon Fries:

federal government. If it it would be, even if you didn't pay any taxes at all, you would still get that money from the government. So, I mean, it's essentially just the government handout.  

[00:09:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That is a yeah. I I I'd be exempt from it. So, you know, yes. Yeah. But, you know, it's a   Yep.   Yeah. I don't get any benefits from the government. I just pay you. That's about it. I know. I know.  

[00:09:14] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Talking about babies though. Uh-huh. I, ran across an interesting study out of The UK   Okay. That,   they have found   that, you know, there there's,   have you ever heard of, shoulder   display share or something like that in infants when they're being born?  

[00:09:33] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Where it's popping out of the socket  

[00:09:35] Jamon Fries:

or whatever? Yeah. Essentially, the shoulder gets stuck in in the well, leaving the womb. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it'll extend the neck   neck and stuff like that. Okay.   Well, this it happened according to the article that I was reading, it happens in about one out of every a hundred and fifty pregnancies, natural births. Uh-huh.   But if you'd say large child, which means that it's above ninety it's it's above ninety percent   the size of children.   Yeah. It's in the ninetieth percentile. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. If it's in it's if it's in the ninetieth percentile or higher,   it drops to a one in twenty five chance. So it's much more likely.  

Right. Right. And so they did a study to see   just   randomly, I guess. I mean, I'm sure somebody had the thought.   But they they found out that if you if if you have a large child  

[00:10:29] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:10:31] Jamon Fries:

By   inducing labor a week to ten days early  

[00:10:36] Unknown:

Uh-huh. It  

[00:10:38] Jamon Fries:

reduces the chance of the shoulder dysplasia   massively.   Because the baby's smaller.  

[00:10:44] Jesse Fries:

Yes.  

[00:10:45] Jamon Fries:

Well, that just makes sense. So it's much less likely to get stuck. They've also found that   the that the number of,   of emergency   c sections   Uh-huh. Dropped significantly  

[00:10:58] Jesse Fries:

by by having the child born a little bit early. Okay. But only if it's, like, in the ninetieth percentile?  

[00:11:05] Jamon Fries:

It didn't say much. It didn't say if that was the case for the c set for the emergency c section thing,   but I'm assuming I would assume so.   Yeah. But that's just the way because that's gonna make it come out just the same size as a normal full term baby would be. Doing say  

[00:11:23] Jesse Fries:

the problem with that is that, basically, now everybody's gonna go to c section.  

[00:11:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, no. Not everybody's gonna go to c section.   They'll just try to have their kid born ten days early.  

[00:11:36] Jesse Fries:

No. But you said that the c section thing, you didn't know if that was  

[00:11:40] Jamon Fries:

due to that. Well, in in the article, they didn't say if if it was c sections amongst the ninetieth percentile or not. It just said that the set c section that that they noticed that c sections dropped, that the emergency c section dropped.   Okay.  

[00:11:58] Jesse Fries:

So but I'm assuming If you induce or okay. I I must have heard you wrong then. Okay. Yeah. Never mind. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:12:05] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, obviously, if you have c section, you're not gonna have that shoulder displace you because you're not There is that. You know what   I mean? Yeah. You know? But,   yeah. So the it it was just kind of an interesting article that I read. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely.  

[00:12:20] Jesse Fries:

Oh, speaking of children. So, apparently, that sperm race that we all heard about?   Yeah. Yeah. Apparently, it was fuck.   It it it it it was kind of faked, actually.   So so they say that they actually   did a race, but everything that was shown on the screen   was computer generated.   They said it it's what  

[00:12:48] Jamon Fries:

It's what it would have looked like? Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:12:53] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. So it was too good to be true. I'm sorry. Yeah. No more sperm races for us. You know? It's,  

[00:13:02] Jamon Fries:

Darren, the betting world's gonna be disappointed. You can't place bets on the sperm races anymore. I know. Right? Yeah. It's   such a shame. Such a shame. It really is. I mean, and here I thought we had invented a new sport.  

[00:13:21] Jesse Fries:

Formula one.   Yep.   Absolutely.  

[00:13:36] Jamon Fries:

Let me see here.   Oh, movies.   Trump's putting tariffs on foreign movies.  

[00:13:43] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. Like Chinese movies and whatnot?  

[00:13:48] Jamon Fries:

According to what Trump wants to do, it would be any any movie that's produced overseas.   Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So if you so if an American movie is filmed overseas, it's gonna have tariffs on it. Oh, Jesus Christ.   Okay. The reason for the reason for this and and, of course, you know, this is the surprising thing is is that the these all these tariffs   Uh-huh.   There's one major   opponent   of Republican of basically any Republican out there that's a huge now proponent   of the of the the side that fully backs Trump on these.   Uh-huh.  

The labor union.   I see. I see. So the, the movie labor union is now supporting Trump's tariff on movies because   it'll bring they say it'll bring production back to The US,   and so we'll be able to employ the film crews again.  

[00:14:45] Jesse Fries:

No. I could see that. I I could see that argument. But then also, it's like so if you wanna shoot if your movie is based   in London,   now you're gonna get tariff for it.  

[00:14:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But I I think one of the biggest you know, one of the one of the things that reason is that they're doing this, that that is you know, I I was reading all sorts of stuff and, you you know, they were talking about   where movies were being produced and a movie   solely based in New York City is being produced in Paris.   A movie based in based for the movie about a California earthquake story is being filmed in Australia.  

[00:15:26] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Because those areas will actually   give you tax credits. We'll give you credits on the movie. They'll they'll give they'll give bonuses to get you out there. Yeah. Apparently, it it's like I know   who is it?   McConaughey   and then his   maybe brother.   What's his name?   He was in Cheers, the young kid.   Nitro Born Killers. Woody from Cheers? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Supposed that they might be brothers, just so you know.  

[00:15:58] Jamon Fries:

Interesting.  

[00:15:59] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That was a news story that came out a little while ago. But, anyways, they're both here in Texas, and they wanna actually make Texas the hot spot for movies.   They wanna start a production company and everything like that. And, apparently, California   has really been they've gotten taken away a lot of their credits that they give people.   So Okay. Which is hilarious because that's where the movie industry is. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it's  

[00:16:25] Jamon Fries:

Texas isn't the only place that the movie industry is moving because some have moved to Nevada.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Base basically, Hollywood is becoming decentralized   now.   State some states are given better advantages.   And so they're moving out of California, but instead of all moving to one place, they're moving all over now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:16:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. But the tariff thing that that's   okay. I   Yeah. I I I don't that's entertainment. I don't give a shit. You know, that's Oh, yeah. I know. Absolutely. And so it it seems kind of stupid in my book. But  

[00:16:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. What what I found interesting about it was, you know, all the complaints were, like, you know, this isn't gonna make this may not make movies much more expensive,   but it'll definitely reduce the number of movies being made.   And I'm sitting there thinking, you know, with the quality of movies that I've watched lately,   that may not be such a bad thing.   Yeah. There's a lot of schlock out there. There really is. There there is. You know, you you it's like you've got this decent movie   and then 10 movies that are just   stupid.  

Yep. Yep. So if you get rid of the you know, as long as we don't get rid of that one good one and you get rid of the 10 bad ones, I'm all for reducing how many movies are made.  

[00:17:41] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But   yeah. Usually, there's just the b movies anyways. I don't mind b movies. Sometimes they're funny. But,   yeah. Yeah. That is visually really lame.   Yep. Yep. Oh, along the lines of,   government, I guess.   Apparently,   TSA   is actually enacting the real ID   deadline.   Apparently,   today, you actually need the real ID.   That is crazy. I never thought this Yeah. This thing has been waiting for twenty years to get a knife. Oh, I know. I know.   This it's been the stupidest thing. I've had a real ID for, like,   god, at least fifteen of those years.  

You know, starting in Michigan and coming down here. You know? It's like Yeah.  

[00:18:27] Jamon Fries:

I've had one for, I think, three years now.  

[00:18:29] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Just depend on the state and everything like that. And Yeah. Some states drug   drag their feet and everything like that. Go, no. I don't want to and everything like that. You know? Cool. Colorado,  

[00:18:40] Jamon Fries:

where I used to live, they didn't the real ID wasn't even an option.  

[00:18:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's why I was saying states were dragging their feet, some of them. But yeah. No. It it's finally you can still fly, just so you know.  

[00:18:53] Jamon Fries:

It just takes longer to process.  

[00:18:55] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. You you have to go into a different queue and whatnot. Yep.   Or different line. Why did I say queue like a freaking Brit? I don't know.   But yeah. So there's that.   That was that's not too bad, really.   No. No.   Apparently, Doge,   basically, at the treasury discovered about $334,000,000   in improper payment requests,   due to bad codes that they put in,  

[00:19:27] Jamon Fries:

or no code. That doesn't really surprise me after everything else I've heard.  

[00:19:31] Jesse Fries:

No. No. Not at all. And and, you know, more than likely, a lot of this was just that they didn't put in a code.   Yeah. Or,   they forgot to put in a code or something like that. So more than likely, that is most of it.   But   now is that code field is required, and it has to be a good code.   And so just to me, all this means is that you're actually gonna be able   to monitor the money better.   Oh, yeah. Which to me is, like, it just makes sense. You know? It's,  

[00:20:02] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, the the one thing that that I that's always confused me.   Mhmm. Is   anytime the government is talking about businesses   or   taxes or anything else like that Mhmm. The biggest thing that they talk about is that you have to be audited from time to time. Yep. Who has ever audited to the government?  

[00:20:26] Jesse Fries:

Supposedly,  

[00:20:27] Jamon Fries:

they somewhat audit it, but not having this audit They audit it themselves. It's all internal. And No. Exactly. Just all a load of crap. You can't internally audit yourself.   That's why in the business world, you hire an auditing firm to come in and audit your business. Yeah. Look at the Pentagon. Yeah. Yeah. It's  

[00:20:45] Jesse Fries:

yeah. No. It it's   but along the same light, did you hear about this? The there's this guy. He was the head of the foreign aid,   and he resisted   Doge   Yeah. Coming into, he actually blocked them from coming into his building and everything like that. Okay. Well,   apparently,   there's a   law enforcement affidavit,   that shows this guy was steering illicit   contracts   to his friend, and then his friend was sending him secret payments.  

[00:21:19] Jamon Fries:

Gee. You know, that   that reminds me of another USAID   story I heard a while back about the the judge who stopped the,   the stuff from that stopped Doge from being able to shut down the payments for a little while Uh-huh. Was   secretly working on the board of one of the companies that was receiving money from USAID.  

[00:21:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. This was, for the African Development Foundation.   He was the CFO  

[00:21:47] Jamon Fries:

of that. It's it's amazing how the most vocal   opponents   of Doge   seem to be   having their funds shut off because of Doge.  

[00:21:59] Jesse Fries:

Well, if you're too noisy about a thing,   generally,   you're doing that thing. You you you know? And   it's like   it's like this whole,   about anything. You know? If you you you crack down on criminals, a lot of times you're a criminal. You you you know? If if you're very vocal about,   not doing,   like, not taking advantage of children and everything like this, you you know, and everything like that, then comes out that you're   a   a   baby porn watcher or something like that. You know? It's like if you if you concentrate so much on it, it means that it's in your head for a reason. Yeah. You know? I'm just saying Absolutely.   It's it's the whole, I think you protest too much sort of situation. You know? It's, it's   like the whole idea of, if you really hate gay people, is that   kinda maybe are you gay and you're just trying to hide it? You know, it's that sort of thing. Yeah.  



[00:22:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's like otherwise You you why would you hate it? About yourself so you have to hate the group as a whole.  

[00:23:02] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Something like that. Yeah. That's, but yeah. So   that's kinda how I feel that view that situation.  

[00:23:10] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.   Yeah. The Pentagon is,   talking about firing 20% of their, top brass.  

[00:23:22] Unknown:

Oh, okay.  

[00:23:24] Jamon Fries:

I I heard something interesting. I heard a statistic that I've never heard before.   Uh-huh. There are currently more admirals in the navy   Uh-huh. Than there are ships.  

[00:23:36] Jesse Fries:

Are you fucking kidding me? No.   And the admiral is in charge of a fleet, not a ship.   Yes.   Holy hell. What are they doing?   Seriously, what are they doing?  

[00:23:51] Jamon Fries:

I have no idea.  

[00:23:54] Jesse Fries:

I can understand having   more than a few, you know, because some aren't in charge. I couldn't understand anything more. Some are, like, intelligence. That you have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have intelligence. You have that. More admirals than the total number of ships in the military.   Yeah. That's a bit much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These are to be purged.   It it really does. It really does. You know? It's, okay. Go into the   go be a mercenary. You know? God, do the private sector. You know? It's Yeah. Go be a mercenary. Go go into the reserves.   It's something. Yeah. Yeah. That's just   that is kinda crazy. I wonder what they were in there for. That that that's,   I'd like to see what they're in charge of. That'd be interesting.  



[00:24:40] Jamon Fries:

Well, with the   probably nothing.   DEI. I mean, the yeah. But, I mean, even that,   there there's there may be, like, 10 admirals in the DEI department where   they don't need that many.   True. True. Yeah. Yeah. You you don't. You need one, and then you go from there. Yeah. It's just that these people career and work career, they didn't want to they didn't wanna quit.   I mean, there there's absolutely nothing wrong with them with them as as military personnel. But Right.   It speaks more on the military itself that they kept promoting these people into positions that shouldn't exist.  

[00:25:22] Jesse Fries:

Well, I think it's just   it's kinda like the old It it there there's no, you've been in the military for this long, so you're going to have this rank. There is nothing like that. No. There is nothing. You know, if there is, it's like forced retirement sort of situation. You know? It's like Yeah. Get get out. We don't need you. Get out. You know? It it kinda makes sense. But, you know, I think it's kinda like the whole the whole   the military always says, like, mission creep. You know? Well, I think it's like that, but it's just like with any organization. It just keeps growing and growing and growing and growing.   And sooner or later,   you just have to cut. And this is, like, every organization on the planet. You know? It it becomes this monstrous   behemoth of bureaucracy  

[00:26:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That just is not needed. You know? And every so often, you have to go in and cut. Go in and cut. And, yes, this is you're gonna cut some good, but, you know, you have to cut the bat as well. So And and this isn't the first time that the government has done this. They're they've there's been three or four times in the past where they've purged the top brass out of the military to refocus it onto the onto the lower ranks. But Yep. Yep. You know, they're they're more focusing on having a fighting military than have a than having a bureaucratic   military.  



[00:26:38] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.  

[00:26:40] Jesse Fries:

But, you know, the Supreme Court, you know, they did just,   allow president   Trump to   actually ban transgender people. So, you know, that can go through it now. So, you know, it's,   at least temporarily. We'll see. All these things are, like, temporary.   You know? It's like Yeah. Do they   but I don't know. But,   apparently, like, 4,000 transgender people serve in the military, so they'll probably be kicked out.   Yep.   So maybe about the same that we're kicked out for the COVID shot,  

[00:27:10] Jamon Fries:

you know, maybe. Hopefully. Yeah. So Yeah. So they'll just bring in those 4,000 and kick out those 4,000. And, you know, we'll be about to do that. You know? So so you got rid of 4,000 more conservative leanings, so now we're getting rid of 4,000 more liberal leaning. You know? Yes. That's how you can look at it. We're just deepening it out. Makes sense to me.   Talking about the military though, I'd I've read an interesting story. I didn't include it in the show notes here. I can later on if you if you want me to,   if I can find it again.  

They were talking about,   former soldiers   that   found out that they have   a arrest record,   but they've never been arrested.   And that's because in the military, the the investigators   are told to fill out a form   Uh-huh.   That has   fields for   arrest date, time of incarceration,   and stuff like this. Those are left blank,   but it still gets recorded as an arrest record in the military.   Jesus. And so when they go into the public world   Right. These people have a criminal record.  

[00:28:24] Jesse Fries:

Well, fuck me, man. That's that one. No  

[00:28:27] Jamon Fries:

kidding.  

[00:28:28] Jesse Fries:

That is horrendous.   Yeah.   Wow.   Yeah.   Bureaucr bureaucracy gone wrong. See? Look at it happens, people. It does. Yeah.  

[00:28:39] Jamon Fries:

That is great. That's because there were too many admirals, and they just had to have something to do.  

[00:28:45] Jesse Fries:

I I think the programmer just didn't know how to say, you could just leave that blank, and so they had to. Well, no. No. It was it was a paper form that that the military has filled out for years.  

[00:28:56] Jamon Fries:

Right. But then they have to transpose that into the computer system. Otherwise, it wouldn't go on the record per se. You know? Right. But it's but the the problem is is that it's the same they only use this one form, and this form is used whether they are arresting people   or just questioning them if they were just a person of interest.   And   so just the filling out of this arrest form   puts them into into the having a been arrested category   or having been detained category.  

[00:29:26] Jesse Fries:

Wow.   That is   that is special. That's very short but special.   It really is. It really is. You you know, it's kinda like what they're doing in the EU right now,   with or in Germany per se.   So the internal spy agency,   it's   the BFV,   so bravo Frank Victor.   It's   stands for the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.   I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is in German. But, anyways, they have   made it so that the AFD you know the AFD. Right? Yes.   The most popular party in Germany right now. Servicing party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they like to say the extreme right wing of parties. Yeah. But, yeah, the the more, just right leaning,   party.  

And, apparently, the internal spy agency has said that the AFD's focus on ethnic Germans,   is anti constitutional   and anti   democratic.   And so because of that, they are   what is the term that they   said? It said they declared them definitely right wing extremists.   So this is like a specific thing in German law,   where this means   that they can now,   surveil AFD members without warrants.   This is chat, phone, every email, everything.   They can also legally infiltrate the entire party with informants   and also use many other spy techniques,   in this process,   which   I just assume just like kinda like our FBI uses informants,   this I assume this includes instigating   extreme actions.  

So they would instigate an action so that they can get what they want. Yeah. That's how I would view that. Because our FBI It's definitely a possibility.  

[00:31:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:31:29] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. And and it could be works.   It is it's also in the step to trying to outlaw the AFD.   Like, straight out outlaw them. Yeah.  

[00:31:39] Jamon Fries:

But I mean, when you're when you're liberal nation, you have to outlaw conservatism.  

[00:31:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, completely. Completely.   But not only that, the AFD is actually the most in the polls is the most popular party in Germany  

[00:31:53] Jamon Fries:

right now.   Yep. So   Which which is why they had friends that way.  

[00:31:59] Jesse Fries:

I know. It it's just crazy. You know? It's,   you know, I could   sooner or later, no matter what, if people get sick and tired of something, whether it's legal or not legal, they're gonna take care of it themselves. You you you know?   Do this nicely, whatever. You know? The thing same thing is going on in, The UK right now,   with, Nick Farage.   He has his own, political party now that he's doing, I I believe. Okay. And it is gaining steam like nobody's business.   He might be able to and, basically, it's along the same lines. Get rid of the immigrants.   Yeah. That sort of thing. You know? They because they're taking over. You know? They're just Oh, yeah. Yeah. But but not only that, but they get special treatment under the law Yes. Now in The UK, which is just messed up. You should never get special treatment   under the law. It's,   should all be equal.  

Unless if you have beaucoup money, then, you know. Well, I mean,  

[00:32:55] Jamon Fries:

if you can buy everybody off, you know, it's okay that they're not quite you're not quite equal. But  

[00:33:01] Jesse Fries:

But that's traditional, you know? Yes. Yes.  

[00:33:06] Jamon Fries:

Along those lines, so be like it that'd be like in Europe if you're nobility, you know? You sure you can get a little you you have a much larger gray area to work with.  

[00:33:15] Jesse Fries:

Oh, you strangled your mistress? Oh, such a shame. You know?  

[00:33:22] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Too bad she died in her sleep. I know.  

[00:33:31] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Also with EUs, we'll we'll stick there real quick.   But the EU you know, so in Romania, they canceled that one election?   Yeah.   So, basically, with that,   they made it so that that winner, whatever his name is, I can't remember,   but they made it so he couldn't run,   right, for president. Right.   And so because of that, another nationalist   came up in power and just won   the the the Okay. Preliminary   vote again. Now they're gonna have another vote, a runoff vote, and he's expected to win.   And he he might be even a little bit more   extreme than the other guy. So may may maybe they won't want him, in or anything. Well, you know, let's let's see what they do. It's kind of it's kind of funny when  

[00:34:19] Jamon Fries:

you   eliminate the possibility of one person because he was too, quote, unquote, extreme,   but he was insanely popular.   It's amazing how the next person that they'll go for is gonna be even more extreme because they know what you're doing.  

[00:34:35] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. It's like this guy. He he's a showman. What he did   so they had   a   a   debate. There you go. That's the word. They had a debate, right, in between him and, like, a center left or something like that or a moderate. I can't remember what.   Okay. But, anyways, he protested the canceled election. You know, the one that they got rid of and everything like that. Yeah. He did this by he brought flowers   for his opponent.   Right?   And then he just walked off the stage.   Nice. He's like, here you go, madame. Have some flowers. Then then he just walked right off the stage.   This guy has also been banned from the Ukraine,   from Ukraine. So Okay. Because   Ukraine say says that he's pro Russian   and, anti Ukraine and whatnot. But he says that he isn't anti this or pro that except for pro Romania.  

That's all he is. He's just pro Romania. Yeah.   He   wants to make it so that a lot of the EU laws don't actually go into effect,   from what I hear, but he says he still wants to remain in the EU. So I'm not sure how that would   really work. Maybe he's just saying that so that they don't cancel it.  

[00:35:53] Jamon Fries:

You know? They would be   yeah. Yeah. I don't want the EU stepping in and saying, hey. You can't run.  

[00:36:03] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Yeah. Well, they would have to cancel another vote. You know? It's Yeah.   I I just don't know.   Yeah.   It's this world's gone crazy. I swear to God. Yeah. In in supposed democracies  

[00:36:17] Jamon Fries:

where the vote is supposed to matter, it's amazing how suddenly,   if it doesn't go your their way, the vote didn't really matter that time.  

[00:36:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, it's like this whole, like, almost wanting to outlaw the AFD and everything like that. They they wanna Yeah. They're they're stopping all these right wings from, coming up and everything like that, you know. Yeah. And then they won't change their policies to help mitigate the situation.   They just double down and go more left and more left and more left. You know, this is all this all that type of crap will do   is actually lead to a worse party.  

[00:36:53] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah.  

[00:36:54] Jesse Fries:

To, lead to a worse outcome.   You you know, it's   you may not like exactly what's going on or anything like that. It's like here in this country, you know, you may hate what Trump's doing and everything like that, but   it could be worse. I'm just saying. You know? He   I I I I know the left has gone crazy about Trump. You know? They have, Trump derangement syndrome. But, you know big time. Yeah.   It's   it could be worse, you know, no matter what. And   so, yeah, you gotta watch out people.   Yeah. That's all I gotta say.  

[00:37:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And,   along the lines of Europe still,   the,   Ofcom,   Not really sure what that stands for. It's,   it's British. It that's in The UK. They they monitor the social media and stuff like that. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. We talked about them just a couple  

[00:37:50] Jesse Fries:

episodes ago, I think, with something else. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They're well, they're complaining  

[00:37:55] Jamon Fries:

that they need more power to remove list misleading posts.   Like, we weren't able to stop this protest from happening, so we need to be able to to shut them down even faster.  

[00:38:12] Jesse Fries:

Right. What the hell is this crap? I just don't understand   it.   You you you   you you you stamp down   hard   on just normal people because these protests generally are normal people. This is not like Antifa   attacking Washington University. You you you you know that like, this isn't like the Antifa stuff. This isn't like the pro Palestinian stuff. Well well, no. No. No. It might be like I I I would say it might be like the pro Palestinian.   I I I would give them because pro Palestinian, that is a movement against something. Antifa is just   Yeah. Okay. I'll give you that. To to to me, it's it's like one is a a protest,   and then one is just antifa is just destruction. You you know, don't get me wrong. There there are some times that that may be needed or is things like that.  

But that's what Antifa is. It is just more of a more of a terrorist organization. They go out and attack. You know? It's it's not protesting.   You know? The pro Palestinian movement, it was protesting. They weren't damaging things. They were doing the typical Well, not not citizens. They eventually got to that point. Well, a little bit, but not by much. It really didn't happen much.   It was like the antifa that would get in the group and then cause more havoc, generally.  

[00:39:31] Jamon Fries:

That's true. It it wasn't like,  

[00:39:34] Jesse Fries:

unfortunately, like a lot of the BLM movement, which there was a lot of destruction when BLM was around. Well, right. Because one bad egg, and then it just goes from there because you're walking down the street. Pro Palestinian,   protests, they were all on the universities, and they were basically like sit ins.   They were just doing, what the hippies did back in the sixties. You know? That that that   so, you you you know, whether or not you wanna, like, lock them up for it, that or came out of the country for it, that's one thing. But   it's a protest, and I have no problem with protests. You know, protest all you want. You know? Whether you can of course, the government will say you can't do it here, but you can do it here and everything like that. I I I find that all stupid too, but the government could do what they wanna do. But,   yeah, it's,   so I   would   to get back to where we were going Okay. Yeah. I I agree with you that. With you that. Yeah. Stop trying to stop protests, especially   like that. Trying to stop things on social media to stop a protest. That that's like Yeah.  

You're squelching free speech, people. Plain and simple. That's all you're doing. You know? Just because you don't want to do is lead to more of those protests.   Exactly. You bottle it up, and then sooner or later It'll explode.   It'll explode.   Plain and simple. Yeah. You know? And   you you you know, it's   yeah.   For for   if you keep attacking a group, especially the majority group, things are gonna happen. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   You know? I'm not saying that they showed or anything like that, but but it's gonna happen. Likely will get bad. Yeah. Yeah. Just that's just how it is. Yep.   Yep.  

So on that fun note  

[00:41:21] Jamon Fries:

Sticking with international.   Uh-huh.   India and Pakistan are at war.  

[00:41:27] Jesse Fries:

Yes. They are.  

[00:41:29] Jamon Fries:

I don't think it hasn't been formally declared yet, but, yeah. No. No. It hasn't been. But, India launched missile attacks on eight different places in Pakistan.  

[00:41:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep. Yep.  

[00:41:42] Jesse Fries:

This is all over Kashmir.   So your lovely sweater   is causing all these problems, you know. Just saying.   You   know?  

[00:41:53] Jamon Fries:

So is that what a cashmere sweater is? That it's just made in cashmere?  

[00:41:57] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's from wool Where is it? From cashmere.   Oh, okay. Yeah. It it's wool   because it's sheep,   but that sheep is raised in cashmere.  

[00:42:07] Jamon Fries:

Okay. That's all. I didn't I didn't know if it was if it was I I've never really paid attention to what kind of clothes I wear or anything. No. I understand. I understand. Yeah. Yeah. No.  

[00:42:17] Jesse Fries:

Most of the time, if you see a name and you don't want the name is, it's probably a region of the country or the world. Okay. It it's like Bordeaux. Like,  

[00:42:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It's like Florida. Yeah. It's like  

[00:42:28] Jesse Fries:

Or or what I was trying to think of. Yeah. Yeah. It's a same with, Gouda, you know, or Houda or whatever. However they pronounce it over in, The Netherlands.  

[00:42:37] Jamon Fries:

It's a town. Yeah. It's a town. Really? Yes. Gouda is just cheese that's made in Gouda?  

[00:42:43] Jesse Fries:

Yes. They they they pronounce it like Gouda.   Well, yeah. Something. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a yeah. That's all it is. Yeah. Well, thank you. Parmesan? Parmesan?   It's from Parmesan.   See, the the I am learning a lot of new stuff. I did not know that. When it comes especially, like, European stuff and everything like that Yeah. It's basically just named after   the area.   The only one that I don't know about is Gruyere. You know, Gruyere cheese?   Yeah. I've never heard of it. I've never had it. Yeah. It's using, like, Keith Lorraine and everything like this.   Yeah. But, basically, there's actually been fights in, EU court over who can actually use the name Gruyere.  

It's like in between, like, France,   Switzerland,   maybe some Germany were Italian too. But, you know, it's just right in the area.   You know?   And they've had legal fights. I can't remember who won.   I almost think it was Switzerland who won, but I can't remember exactly who could actually who could actually use the name Gruyere   even though it's the same cheese.   It's just  

[00:43:49] Jamon Fries:

You know, for to me, I always just   thought of it as, well,   okay. So it's like blue cheese.   It has something in it that no other cheese has. So it's just all that.  

[00:44:04] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. No. It it it comes from just the area. It's,   Wow.   That's all it is.  

[00:44:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That that always that always really confused me too with the with wines and stuff like that, how, you know, it had to be bottled in this province to be able to carry this name. And I'm like,   but it's the same exact grape, the same exact   flavor almost,   the same exact everything   as the wine that's made over here. Why can't they just call it that type of wine? There's no difference between them.  

[00:44:39] Jesse Fries:

There   in general to the layman, yes, there is no difference between them. Yeah. I'm sure to to those to the experts, they will say otherwise. But I'm I'm sure it's called a sommelier can probably taste the difference.   Possibly. Or or they just think they can. Yes.   But yeah. It it's   it's like champagne.   Right? Champagne is a region in France in France. Yeah. And no other place can call it champagne.   It it it's why   Italian sparkling wine is called Prosecco.   It's the same thing. Same exact thing, except it's called Prosecco instead of champagne.  

[00:45:20] Jamon Fries:

Well, here in The US, it's just called sparkling wine.  

[00:45:23] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Because there was a direct negotiation to where we couldn't say,   champagne, even though we all know we we we still just call it champagne. You you know, you could make Yeah. You you could make all these stupid laws. Right? Oh, yeah. Okay. So it's written   a certain way on the label.  

[00:45:41] Jamon Fries:

Everybody buy it, and it's still champagne.  

[00:45:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's like, where's the champagne? So we'll go, oh, it's over there. And then the person in the store will just go, you know, there's this lovely champagne or or   from California.   You know? It's like,   well, fuck. You know? Yeah. It's a   Absolutely.   But, yeah, most of the names,   they just come from the region that they're   from.   That's,   people the one thing I've learned in this life   is that people are not original. Just say Oh, no. No. Not in any way, shape, or form.  

[00:46:15] Jamon Fries:

Definitely not.  

[00:46:16] Jesse Fries:

If you learn the language of where it came from, you realize it's just, oh, that's Matt's brew. You know? That's Yeah. Yep.   That's all it is. So it's like   Absolutely.   But, yeah, the whole issue in the Kashmir,   I don't know what you have, but, basically, it started with a terrorist attack.  

[00:46:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They had, some terrorist attack somewhere in India.  

[00:46:41] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's in the best way to say it, it's in the Indian controlled   Kashmir area. Okay. Okay.   It's a disputed area,   all Kashmir.   There's the Pakistani   side, and then there's   the Indian side. Yeah.   And   if nobody knows,   Indians and Pakistanis hate each other.   Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They they actually got nuclear weapons, both of them, just so that they could point them at each other.   Yeah.   And this goes back. It it's a religious fight in between the two, Muslims against Hindus.  

[00:47:18] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yeah. It's it's it's a fight that's been going on for   a long time.  

[00:47:26] Jesse Fries:

Coming up on eighty years. Yeah. It was ever since,   the British left,   India   in '47.  

[00:47:34] Jamon Fries:

Yep. So yep.   But, I mean, even even before that, the there was still before in before the Brits came in, there was   already a clash between the Hindus and the Muslims in the area.  

[00:47:46] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. But the Brits   Yeah. The Brits increased the tension.  

[00:47:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt.  

[00:47:54] Jesse Fries:

So but yeah. And then after partition or after they left, they there was   massive killings in between the two of them. Yeah. And then they decided to do the partition.   Yeah. They decided to Pakistan and Bangladesh   were the same country. They were both Pakistan.   Mhmm.   But then they're just separated too far,  

[00:48:16] Unknown:

the Yeah. The Bangladeshi,  

[00:48:17] Jesse Fries:

they had to take care of their own issues, and so they became  

[00:48:20] Jamon Fries:

independent. Yeah. They   it's it's hard to rely on   on your own country when   ninety percent of your own country is on the other side of another country.  

[00:48:33] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly.   But, yeah, this one started out with a terrorist attack in the Indian controlled Kashmir area.   Yep. India responded,   by sending fighter jets that bombed the crap out of Pakistan   Yeah. A little bit at least.   And now Pakistan is saying, oh, we're gonna   return the favor. And India is going, well, maybe we'll beat you to it again.   It's a   yeah.   Apparently, the last Indo Pakistani war was in ended in '99.   Okay. So 1999.   And since then, tens of thousands of people have been killed.   In the twenty five years since, tens of thousands have been killed in terrorist attacks and this and that. It is Oh, yeah. It is a mess over there. Complete mess. It's it's very reminiscent  

[00:49:22] Jamon Fries:

of the Gaza Israel   situations.  

[00:49:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It really is. It's these   hotbeds of two different religions coming together fighting against each other.   Yep.   Who's right? Who's wrong?  

[00:49:37] Jamon Fries:

I I I don't like to get into that. I always say both sides are right and both sides are wrong. So Yeah. Yeah. Both both sides have their own ideologies and who who no one can determine who's right and who's wrong. It's just who you're gonna side with and who you're not gonna side with. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody has a reason for what they did.  

[00:49:56] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Even Hitler had a reason.   Oh, yeah. Crap ass reason. But Yeah.   Oh, speaking of Hitler.   Just random.   It was, I've been searching for road trips, for me and the kids to go on. We're gonna go up   to,   Michigan and do the   New England area.   Mhmm. And, apparently, they want they wanna stop by   Uranus,   Missouri so we can go to the Uranus fudge factory.   It's out of the way, but Oh, nice. I I may do it just because it's the Uranus   fudge factor. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   So there's that. But, anyways,   that's got nothing to do with Hitler. Anyways   so,   while I was researching, apparently, up in, like, what is it, New Hampshire,   there's   a a a lodge where the Von Trapp family,   the real Von Trapp family   settled and died. That's where they died. Oh, no. They lived they lived out their life at this lodge.  

Yeah. That real Von Trapp, you know, Sound of Music.   Yep. People. Yeah. So we might stop by there. So yeah. That's cool.   I don't know why. We we we have a friend here that loves it, so I'm thinking of just stopping by and buying them a trinket and saying Oh, okay. Yeah. Makes sense. Because, you know My kids won't care.   Yeah. Yeah. They really won't care. So Yep.  

[00:51:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And you you you stole your the you stole my speaking of   from that story that you from the previous story. You you went into Hitler. I was gonna go into Israel.  

[00:51:37] Jesse Fries:

Well, they're related. Go on.  

[00:51:42] Jamon Fries:

You know, unfortunately,   they are. Exactly. Exactly. Israel is   finally saying something that I think they should have been saying from the very beginning.   Uh-huh.   They are now going full conquest mode on Gaza.   Yeah. I heard that. I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. They are you know, instead of instead of going in to kill people and then coming back to their borders, they're now going in and they're staying.  

[00:52:11] Jesse Fries:

I I think it might be the best thing to do.   Yeah. It's the only thing that you can do. I mean But it's also gonna cause a lot of issues. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This will cause more terrorist attacks. This will cause everything. Yep.  

[00:52:24] Unknown:

Yep.  

[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No.   There's no perfect way to end this thing.   No. There really isn't. I'm not even sure if you can end it. It's   Yeah.  

[00:52:35] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, if if it were if it were, like, a war between two countries, it could have   ended. But this is not a war between two countries. It's more of a civil war situation.   Yeah. Yep. Yep. And the only way to actually win the civil war   is by completely conquering the other party.  

[00:52:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Unfortunately.   Yeah.  

[00:52:58] Jamon Fries:

And, you know, you look at China for that. I mean,   up until very recently,   neither the Taiwanese   party,   political party,   or the Chinese political party   would ever say that the war was was ended, that their civil war was done.   Mhmm. Taiwan still claimed all of China. China claimed Taiwan.   I mean,   you know, you're not gonna have a peaceful situation   when that's going on.  

[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It it's there's just a pause and fight. You know?   It's, Yeah. The thing with Taiwan, that's a interesting thing,   because   I believe they still call themselves the Republic Of China.  

[00:53:44] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. They are still they they still do.  

[00:53:47] Jesse Fries:

And China is the People's Republic Of China.  

[00:53:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They have recently   started drawing back on their claims over Mainland China. Yeah. But they still they still hold true to all of their claims over all of the islands that have been occupied by China since the beginning of time. Yep. Yep. And then you have North And South Korea. That's just a heat mess too. You know, that's a Oh, yeah. That war is still technically going on. There's just a truce. Mhmm. Yep. So yeah.   Yeah. It's,   I don't know.   Yeah. What can you do? Yeah. I mean, the only the really, the only reason that I don't want that I would say that   that I would rather not have China take over Taiwan   is   because, well, most of our electronic   goods come from Taiwan   Yeah. For now. Still currently. No.  

So I don't want China holding on to all of those.  

[00:54:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Especially, like, the mass chips, the most powerful chips there. That that would make it so that  

[00:54:54] Jamon Fries:

The US   was way behind technologically   than than China would be because all of a sudden, China would have access to all of the world's   leading technology   on chips.   Well, they kinda do anyways. I'm just saying. Right. But, I mean, we would know we don't we wouldn't have access to them.  

[00:55:12] Jesse Fries:

No. I understand. I understand. All of a sudden, our technological  

[00:55:16] Jamon Fries:

advantages  

[00:55:17] Jesse Fries:

would just disappear in a heartbeat. No. Well, this is why Trump is trying to bring manufacturing back to The US. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:55:23] Jamon Fries:

Which which is why I've always supported his tariffs trying to bring all that back to US. And it's working because chip manufacturers are starting to to build,   manufacturing sites here in The US. Other manufacturing   is coming back to The US. We need to have manufacturing here in The US be strong.  

[00:55:41] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Completely.   Completely.  

[00:55:45] Jesse Fries:

Speaking of the tariffs, looks like General Motors   has said that they're not gonna raise prices for now, due to the tariffs. So Okay.   We'll see how that is. But then that that was, like, a few days ago, maybe last week that they said that.   Yeah. And then Ford   today announced that they're hiking   prices on Mexico produced cars.   They said the headline says,   citing tariffs,   but   the spokesperson,   cited   normal pricing actions and some   due to tariffs. So   Yeah. I I  

[00:56:25] Jamon Fries:

so, yeah, it's a it wasn't just the one. It wasn't all. Well, I mean, price any the prices on anything anything goes up, and one you know, the left right now is going to say that the entire increase is because of arrows.   Right. Right. Right. You know, that's just the way it works. So that's that's how politics plays out. Yep. This is on the Mustang Mach e,  

[00:56:47] Jesse Fries:

EV SUV.   Okay. And then also on the Maverick pickup and the Bronco Sport. Looks like they could be increased by   up to 2,000.  

[00:56:56] Jamon Fries:

So Okay. Okay.  

[00:56:58] Jesse Fries:

So it   along the lines of   30 to $40,000,   it's a little bit. Not too much, but a little bit. Yep. Yeah.  

[00:57:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I was,   going through all sorts of stuff talking about cars.   The,   I I,   you know, you you said earlier that,   that we're not all that creative,   you know, like, the naming of the the things going with the region instead of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Well, there there was one kind of creative sign that I saw a protester holding up in, Germany.   Uh-huh. They were protesting   Tesla,   and they call it a Swastika.  

[00:57:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I've seen that one. That's a good one.   No. Don't get me wrong. There there there is there is creativity out there, but in general,   we we just kinda  

[00:57:51] Jamon Fries:

it's like gaming stuff. We don't really   go very well.  

[00:57:56] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Call a spade a spade, not a big spoon. You know? That's basically what we do. You know? Yeah. Absolutely. And spade just might mean big spoon. I'm just saying. I don't know.  

[00:58:06] Jamon Fries:

And, essentially, it's what it is. So  

[00:58:09] Jesse Fries:

It's a really big spoon. Exactly. Yeah. Yep.   Let's see here.   What else do we got? Oh, apparently, Poland   wants to develop its own nukes.   Okay. So yep. Yeah. So if we allow them to do that, shouldn't we just allow Iran to do it? Just saying.  

[00:58:31] Jamon Fries:

I mean,   I can't argue that that that thought.  

[00:58:36] Jesse Fries:

Right?  

[00:58:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, if if we're gonna allow our allies to become nuclear powers, then  

[00:58:44] Jesse Fries:

we kinda have to let everybody else become a nuclear power too. That's all I'm saying. You know, tit for tats are a situation. You know? It's,   yeah, how can we allow Poland  

[00:58:55] Jamon Fries:

and not somebody else? You know? It's a How how can we allow our ally and not allow one of Russia's allies?  

[00:59:03] Jesse Fries:

You know? Exactly. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That is We we need the only reason that that the  

[00:59:09] Jamon Fries:

nuclear shield   has taken effect and prevented nuclear war   is because both sides have them.  

[00:59:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Mutually   assured destruction.  

[00:59:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Mad. Now,   you know, the the problem with Iran getting the nuke is that they've specifically said in the past that once they get the nuke, they're launching it at Israel regardless. But  

[00:59:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But they wouldn't. See, that's the thing.   It it it it it I don't think they would either. But It's a whole bunch of rhetoric because they know if they do that, they're toast.   Oh, yeah. Iran will no longer be on the map if they do that. Exactly. So it it's,   you know, it   it's   our presidents have always said, yeah. We can use the nuke. I'm willing to use the nuke. Every president has always said I'm willing to use the nuke. Yeah. Right?   In every war situation, it's like,   but media always goes, oh, so would you even use the nuke? They go, well, if I had to, I would.   Yeah. I'm like, you know, it's a   you know, Russia, the Soviet Union was scared shitless of us using the nuke on them, and we were scared shitless of them using the nuke on us. You know? And,   thankfully,   both sides are rational.  

You know? I I I know that's not we never got to the point where one of the decides decided to push the button. Yeah. I know that's not popular viewpoint right now saying that anything Russian is, rational. But Yeah. They're irrational people. I'm I'm just saying, you know, they they they they don't want anything   that we don't. You know? We're pretty much the same. We all wanna survive. We wanna thrive. You know? It's Yeah.   Yep. Yep.   Absolutely.   Let's see here. Speaking of crazy people,   so   we spoke, like, last time or the time before that about Moriarty   Yes. The Hennepin County,   prosecutor  

[01:01:08] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[01:01:09] Jesse Fries:

Up in, Minneapolis, whatnot.   Apparently,   the DOJ is investigating her. The civil rights   Yeah. Group is actually investigating her.   They they've opened a racial discrimination.   Yep. Basically, all because she has announced that she's willing to use race and consideration for plea deals.  

[01:01:30] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:01:31] Jesse Fries:

Yep. No. It has to be equal across the board. That is the one thing our constitutional   our constitution says. There's no has to be blind.   Yep. Ifs no ifs, ands, or buts. We're not The UK here, people.   We   it all has to be across the board. You know? It's a  

[01:01:49] Jamon Fries:

Saw an interesting political cartoon about that. Uh-huh.   Lady Justice was in a was in a look at visiting an eye doctor,   and she said, you know,   how's it I I was so concerned. I was so worried.   But now that Trump's in office, I'm I feel confident that I can be blind again.  

[01:02:14] Jesse Fries:

It's a good one. That's a good one.   Let's see here. What else do we got? Oh, the FAA.   Apparently, Newark is having some issues, the airport. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Some massive, massive   issues. Apparently, there's construction on a runway. That's one of the problems.   Uh-huh. But then there's also been some FAA equipment outages.   Yep. Yep. And also,   traffic controlling,   staffing shortages apparently have caused   quite a few issues.  

[01:02:48] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, yeah, the   the equipment issue was very interesting.   Yeah. Yeah. Ninety seconds of the inbound air traffic controllers no longer having radar or communications  

[01:03:01] Jesse Fries:

with the planes. Yeah. Was it ninety seconds? The story I said I saw it said thirty seconds, but I don't know. The original  

[01:03:08] Jamon Fries:

they originally thought that it was thirty seconds, but then it got updated to sixty to ninety seconds.   Oh, Jesus. I think it's probably because   the   it may have taken up to ninety seconds for all of the planes to be to have been communicated with because of how many air traffic control towers   controllers there are. So, you know, it after the after radar comes up, they've gotta talk to the most important ones, and then it takes time to get in contact with us. Right. Right. Right. So it it could be that it was ninety seconds until the last one was communicated with. Okay.   So I it the article that I was reading, it didn't really say how long the radar itself was down. But   I just you know, you listen to some of the some of the communication. There's one guy's like one pilot was like, well, I'll just hold here till you,   tell me who to talk to. And he's like and the record the air traffic controller said,   I have no idea where you are, so I need you to contact your closest tower.  



[01:04:10] Jesse Fries:

Jesus Christ.   Oops.  

[01:04:13] Jamon Fries:

But I guess this isn't even the first time that this has happened just at Newark.   Okay. Okay. This has happened a few a few times in the recent history of it. But the reason that the shortage is Isn't Newark controlled out of, like, Philadelphia? I think it's controlled out of Philadelphia.   I'm not sure where the eight where the air traffic controllers are.   I I don't know.  

[01:04:37] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I think that said Philly in the news story that, yeah. It's Philadelphia   terminal radar approach control. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:04:46] Jamon Fries:

But,   there there's two problems that go into this. I mean Mhmm. Well, actually three.   There there one problem is, of course, the equipment.   You know, we're dealing with the equipment that was   put into place in the fifties and the sixties.   Mhmm. You know, it needs to be fixed and replaced. Yep. Yep.   The another problem is   you can't   bring an air traffic controller from one location   to another   Mhmm.   Because they're using different equipment.   So the air traffic controllers   in working in Chicago,   say Right. Wouldn't be wouldn't know how to use the equipment at new work for new work approach   because it's different equipment.  

Wow. Okay.   That's just So you so it has to be only people that are only people that are specifically trained for new work can can sit in can take place can sit at the at a at one of the desks in new work.   Okay. And   now   a good portion of them   are saying, well, my nerves were so frazzled from this ninety seconds   that I need to take forty five days of trauma leave.  

[01:06:04] Jesse Fries:

What now?  

[01:06:05] Jamon Fries:

Yes. That's why they're that's why they have the shortages because there were, like, 15 air air traffic controllers that are taking a forty five day trauma leave because of this ninety second down downage.  

[01:06:18] Jesse Fries:

Well, there there there was, like, a movie   a while back  

[01:06:23] Jamon Fries:

where Yeah. With the   shit. What was his what's his name? I can't remember Billy Bob Thornton.   Billy Bob Thornton, but the one that I was thinking about was also in Grosse Pointe Blank.  

[01:06:35] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:06:37] Jesse Fries:

Cusack.   Yeah. Cusack.   John Cusack.  

[01:06:41] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[01:06:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Apparently, there's a lot of talk about it. I can't remember what his name was. But, apparently, there's a lot of suicide in that field. So maybe,  

[01:06:50] Jamon Fries:

it's, it seems extreme, but maybe it is right. It's a very   But what what what every   person that I saw talking on the meet to the media was saying now,   is that   this is stuff that we train for.   Right. Right. You know, this this is maybe a slight uptick in stress,   but just the overall stress that we have in everyday life as an air traffic controller,   this does not change that amount of stress as any in any way. This does not make it so that suddenly you're,   like, panicking in panic mode.   It shouldn't be anyways.  

[01:07:29] Jesse Fries:

But you you can get a forty five day vacation out of it. Absolutely.  

[01:07:33] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Say it. Yeah. Forty five day paid vacation.  

[01:07:37] Jesse Fries:

Yep. I'll be sitting in Bali on the beach.   Yep. Have fun with that. Yeah.  

[01:07:44] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. So the with the 15 air traffic controllers taking that trauma   leave, that is that is expanded the shortage massively, which means that there are going to be long delays   for at least the next forty five days until they until they until they come back. Right. Right. Because unlike in most other fields, you can't bring somebody from another   area   in to cover their place.  

[01:08:08] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[01:08:09] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. So it it just makes it even worse.   Yeah. I mean, New York is does. New York is such is such a high heavy traffic area   that   you have to have been an air traffic controller for at least, like, ten to fifteen years before you can even be brought in to be trained for that area. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's not anymore because do you know how many flights can fly into Newark now?   Not too many.  

[01:08:36] Jesse Fries:

28   an hour.   That's it. So every two minutes less than every two minutes. So yeah.   28 an hour. That's what the FAA has put on them. So it's   but then, you know, after that last tragedy in Washington DC   Oh, yeah. Where that yeah.   So, yeah, they're a bit,   they wanna make sure everything is okay. Talk talking about that tragedy in DC,  

[01:09:04] Jamon Fries:

Did you know that, within   not not the recent not too long ago, I don't know exactly how far back it goes,   but there were two planes that had to divert from their landing patterns   because Blackhawk helicopters   flew higher than they were supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. No surprise. No surprise. And do you know why they flew higher than they were supposed to?  

[01:09:26] Unknown:

Mm-mm.  

[01:09:28] Jamon Fries:

Because they had VIPs   on board that wanted a better view of Washington DC.  

[01:09:36] Jesse Fries:

That sounds about right. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. So so, Duffy, the transportation  

[01:09:44] Jamon Fries:

secretary,   he was being interviewed by Fox News, and he's like,   what I wanna know is who were those VPs?   Nope. They won't DOD won't tell us who was on those helicopters   that   that got them to fly higher than than they're legally allowed to fly.  

[01:10:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Screw the VIPs. But, you know, it's,   yeah.  

[01:10:10] Jamon Fries:

But, you know You you you you fly too high, you divert the traffic,   and that suddenly puts a huge strain on the air traffic controllers again now because now they've gotta find a way to fit that plane into their cycle again.  

[01:10:24] Jesse Fries:

No. I completely understand. Yeah. It's,   it's crazy.   Uh-huh. Well, here at the Mindless Meanderies, we are a value for value, model podcast. This means that you are the producers of the show. If you can help out,   in all aspects of the show, that would be great. You can provide your time, talent, or treasure,   as the no agenda.   They are the originators of this, and I will give them credit because, that's where I got the idea.   And it means I can talk me and Jamin can talk about whatever we wanna talk about,   And, nobody can tell us no.  

God bless the Internet.   And, if you have any ideas for the show, information about the show, topics to cover, anything like that, or you just wanna shoot us a email to have a discussion back and forth with, that's cool. You can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com,   and you can email jamen@jamenatmindlessmeanderings.com.   But most importantly,   please send us your treasure. Any amount of money would help defray the cost of, the show.   There is server space. There is,   backup space and everything like that that, we pay for monthly and everything like that. So anything would be helpful, from a dollar to $300. It doesn't matter. And if I could put a little bit in my pocket, I would do that because that'd be great too.   But I'm doing good. Don't worry, guys. But, yeah, please help us out any way you can. Time, talent, treasure, we will take anything you could give us, and so we can continue doing this. We do enjoy it, but please help us out.  

And speaking of money, Weight Watchers went bankrupt. Is that what you're telling me? Yes. Indeed. Weight Watchers had to has declared chapter 11 bankruptcy.   I wonder if that's due to o o o zempic.  

[01:12:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. They they have they cannot   no one wants to count their count their their meals count their calories or their meals anymore when it's so much easier just to jab a shot into you that nobody knows what it does to you.  

[01:12:26] Jesse Fries:

And that you have to do that for the rest of your life with. Yeah.  

[01:12:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:12:31] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You get off that, and then, well, guess what?   You gain all your weight back. It's a lovely thing. Yep.  

[01:12:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But, yeah. With with those drugs,   weight watchers just can't compete. I mean,   you know, everybody wants the simple everybody wants the simple easy weight loss. So  

[01:12:50] Jesse Fries:

No. I I'm right there with you.   Yeah, I would too. You know?   I'm a bit overweight,   but,   so, yeah, it'd be nice to get back to fighting shape. But, you know,   I work out.   I   but I drink too much beer. You know? It's I'm gonna say what it is. I drink too much beer. I'm just saying, you know. It's okay,  

[01:13:10] Jamon Fries:

though. You know, for for me, I I I really can't say get back into fighting weight or anything like that. I mean, for me, it'd be more like get back to sixth grade weight.  

[01:13:24] Jesse Fries:

No. I understand. Well, mine was,   wait before I met Carol. You know? Yeah. So, you know? Yep. Yeah. You you you meet your woman, then she's gonna fatten you up and give you a dad bodice. I would I would definitely like to get back to my weight before my ex fiancee. Definitely.  

[01:13:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I gained about 200 pounds after meeting her.   Holy shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I I was I was about three twenty five when I,   before I started driving over the road and met my ex fiance.   Yeah. But you you're also six six. Right? So it's like Yes. So Yeah. So, I mean, it was it was but I was Yeah. Yeah. You were overweight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   But, yeah, after meeting her, when I quit driving, I was five fifty.  

[01:14:10] Jesse Fries:

Damn, women. You know, making us I know. Well,   my problem is that Carol likes regular meals. And so if she's eating, I'm gonna eat it. You you know, it's like when you're a bachelor,   you just eat whenever you eat. I don't know. One meal a day is fine enough for me. You know? It's Yep. But when when do you have a woman? Yeah. Regular meals. Craziness. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:14:31] Jamon Fries:

Regular meals and when you my biggest problem was when when we went out to eat,   she would order, like, this huge meal.   Uh-huh.   But then she'd only eat about a quarter of it.  

[01:14:46] Jesse Fries:

And she's not she was a big woman too, dude. Oh, she was. Yeah.  

[01:14:51] Jamon Fries:

It's because of what she was eating, not how much she was eating for the most part.   Interesting. She she was she was also the type that snacked all day long   Okay. Okay. And then would eat a small would eat a decent sized meal.  

[01:15:07] Jesse Fries:

I see. So just constantly. Okay. Yeah. I understand. Basically. Yeah.  

[01:15:13] Jamon Fries:

And so,   you know, but she would she would push the food over in front of me, and she kept harping on, well, we can't waste food, so you need to finish it off.   I'm   like, but I'm not hungry.   Wow.  

[01:15:29] Jesse Fries:

Wow. Yeah. But but but since you're getting laid, you'll go, okay, I guess. Absolutely.   Yes.  

[01:15:38] Jamon Fries:

It's kinda how that works. The woman wants, the woman gets. You know? That that was my mindset at the time.  

[01:15:43] Jesse Fries:

Well, that that that's if you're in a relationship, that's what you go with. You know? Yeah. Otherwise, you won't be in a relationship for long. You know? You know? Until you get old. Once you get old,   you you both just don't care. You you you you you know? I I I I think me and Carol might be getting there. It's it's getting sweet. It's getting sweet. I must say. It's actually a very good spot to be in a   relationship there. Yeah. Yeah. You you kinda care,   but also Yep. You just do your own thing because, well, you damn well want to do it, you know, that sort of thing. Yeah. Well, yeah. And and you you  

[01:16:19] Jamon Fries:

learn each other's idiosyncrasies   to the point where you're like,   you know,   it it it's not a big deal anymore. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep.   You don't need to force them to be the way you want them to be anymore.   Mhmm.   So   yeah.   But,   yeah. There,   f t the FTC   has,   is now banning any and all hidden fees from live events,   hotels, and short term rentals now.  

[01:16:51] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Well, that was a transition. Okay.   Yeah.   Well, that's nice. It's a nice a really good transition. No. I understand. I understand. So so, like, Ticketmaster, all that, they can't hide their fees. Is that okay. Yep. They they have to put the full price. It has to be prominent,  

[01:17:09] Jamon Fries:

and it has to be larger than any of the other pricing that they that they put on there. It makes sense. You know, it it does.  

[01:17:17] Jesse Fries:

You know, the one thing it's like,   take, like, Airbnb for example. Right? It was like, we would see this great price and we go, oh, that's great. Yep. And then   you would see it after they add their fucking cleaning fees.  

[01:17:32] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   But you wouldn't see those cleaning fees until after you'd already stayed there.  

[01:17:37] Jesse Fries:

Correct.   But   if you just show   that it's   the full amount. Right?   Yeah. You don't see that initial and then go, oh, that's too much for cleaning fees.   Right. If you just incorporate it all,   it's a better chance of you just booking instead of realizing it's going to cleaning fees.  

[01:17:58] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. Yeah.  

[01:18:01] Jesse Fries:

Because, seriously, it was like this one place we went to. It's like, it was just the whole price. We go, okay. That's a decent price. After the fact, it said this much was the cleaning fees. After we got our bill and everything like that, we go Yeah. Well, that's really steep. But the whole price was fine. It's just Yeah. If you see a really low price and then you see a cleaning fee that is just as much per night,   you're, like, going,   no. But if it's, like, equivalent cost of a hotel anyways  

[01:18:28] Jamon Fries:

Yep. I don't see why not. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I mean I think I'll help. And that's and that's one of the things is that, you know, if   by stating the full price, you can actually hide what the additional costs are. Yeah. You know, you don't have to you don't have to   put in you don't have to give a light item receipt.   And you can just give a receipt for the final price. I mean, that's what hotels do. Hotels don't tell tell you how much of their how how much of their charges is for their cleaning staff and stuff like that. It just doesn't work that way. No re no one does that. The rest or the restaurant doesn't say, well, this is how much the food cost. This is how much it costs to have a waiter. This is how much it costs to have a cook. No. It's just this is how much it costs to eat here.  

[01:19:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. It it's,   it just makes sense. You know? Yeah. I I think it'll actually help businesses. I know businesses are trying to fight against it. I I think In all honesty, if you can budget right from the get go, if you can Oh, yeah. That's a decent price I am willing to pay. Yep. Versus   well, that's a good deal. And then you see all these rack up deals, and then you go, well, it's not worth all those extra crap fees.  

[01:19:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   And the the thing that the place where I think it it'll help the most is with repeat business.   Uh-huh. Yep. Because if if you didn't know that there were gonna be all these hidden fees and you Yep. Go and you buy,  

[01:19:48] Jesse Fries:

you're never buying again. No. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It it's Where are you supposed to have the resort fee? Jesus Christ. Are you kidding me? Whereas I'm already paying $400 and you're charging me $50 a night? Yeah.  

[01:20:02] Jamon Fries:

Exactly.   And so, you know, so if if instead you're given the full price upfront,   and there's no extra charges after that beyond that other than, like, taxes and stuff like that, which have to be put on anyways. And no matter where you go, they're gonna be put on.   Right.   You'll be more likely to   utilize that service again.  

[01:20:24] Jesse Fries:

Oh, completely.  

[01:20:25] Jamon Fries:

Come on. Whereas if you get pay a cheap price,   and then suddenly you're paying this huge cleaning fee and this huge other fee and then this other fee,   you're not gonna wanna go back to them again.  

[01:20:37] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Fees to death. Even though it's costing you the same, it's just the Yeah. All that extra little fees back and forth. Yeah. No. I think from a business aspect, I think they should be celebrating this. I'm sure they're gonna complain about it. But Yeah. In all honesty, it's it's   it's like baggage fees for Christ's sakes. Oh, yeah. You you you know, it's like,   now some place some airlines charge for carry ons, you know, and then I heard some might wanna charge you for the extra little bag, like the backpack that you bring on, you know. It's like, you know, just stop people. Just just Oh, yeah. Yeah. Give me the carry on, Bump up the fee for everybody by, like, $20.   You know? And   there you go. Look at that. Yeah.  



[01:21:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I just don't get it. Or or if you want to   if you're doing it so that people that like, business people who are just traveling for the night or for the day to go to a meeting   so that they won't so they have to pay they won't have to pay as much because they don't have have that extra luggage   Mhmm. Then give them a discount for not having luggage versus charging me extra   because I'm bringing luggage. No. They'll never give discounts. It's like it's like the government But, I mean, it's it's essentially what they're doing. They're just not calling it that. Well, no. Yeah.  

[01:21:52] Jesse Fries:

It's like, the government stopping a temporary tax. You know? It's never gonna happen.   You know? It's   Absolutely.   Let's see here. It looks like we're getting close here, and I need some need to do some stuff around the house. Let's see. What are the important  

[01:22:10] Jamon Fries:

things we're I was talking about a reopening Alcatraz.  

[01:22:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That just sounds stupid, but okay. It really does.  

[01:22:20] Jamon Fries:

How much money would they have to spend to re out? I mean, they'd have to turn the building down and build it Seriously. Structure there. Basically.  

[01:22:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. Just just keep it what it is. You know? It's   yeah. Build a new one if you wanna do that. But, yeah, let's keep Alcatraz what it is. A nice tourist spot, you know, where we can go see Yeah. Where the bird man of Alcatraz was and Al Capone's   jail cell. You know, there we go. Let's just keep it there. It's,  

[01:22:47] Jamon Fries:

I think a better reason to that. Interesting two interesting studies that I ran across,   one from Norway,   and   it didn't really say the other article didn't really say where where the where it was centered at, but,   they found that amazingly, I mean, I never would have guessed this, that   teenagers who move more   throughout their lives, you know, like, play sports and do stuff like that Uh-huh.   They have less depression when they get older as they get older. Imagine that.   They they they said there's this specific time frame right around 14 years old where you need to be start being more active.   Right.  

And I was thinking about it. And I'm like, well,   that's kind of when gym class and recess   stops   in your school.   Yep.   It is.   Maybe if you kept the gym and recess going throughout the throughout high school, all the way through high school, you'd have less depression.  

[01:23:54] Jesse Fries:

Maybe so. Maybe so. I was pretty inactive in high school, so I wasn't like you playing sports or anything like that. So,   but I'm not depressed. So, you know. Yeah. May may may maybe I'm just awesome that way.  

[01:24:09] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you were you weren't exactly,   like, you weren't the kid that was just sitting around reading or sitting around playing video games and stuff like that either, though. And you were always out and about doing stuff for the most part. It just wasn't during school, and it wasn't wasn't sports.  

[01:24:28] Jesse Fries:

I have no clue how to respond to that because I didn't feel like I was that. So  

[01:24:33] Jamon Fries:

I guess I was anyways, while we while we were in Minnesota, you'd you've spent a lot of time outside of the house.  

[01:24:40] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Yeah. That was, yeah.   Yeah. I did. Because I wasn't around too much when you were in high school in, Kansas. But Well, we we didn't have a gaming system. You know, they did Yeah. They they bought us a Game Boy. That that that was it. That we had a share of those four brothers. You know? I think Yep.  

[01:24:58] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Our game boy. Our computer history from   when I was,   what, like, in second or third grade up until I graduated from high school   was quite literally a Commodore sixty four Uh-huh. And a Game Boy.   Yeah. Yeah. That was it.   It wasn't until after it it wasn't until after I was out of high school that mom and dad finally bought the,   the Nintendo.  

[01:25:23] Jesse Fries:

No. No. No. No. That was after I was out of high school. Oh, was it? Yes. Yes. That was after I I I knew that it was because the littlest brother asked them to buy it, and so they did. But Yes. I was out of the house by that point in time, so it would have been around '96,   '90 '7.  

[01:25:40] Jamon Fries:

Like '96. And,   I I thought it was slightly earlier than that. But yeah. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. It it was That that was our history with with entertainment at home. So we did spend a lot of time outside.  

[01:25:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. GI Joe on the Commodore was pretty fun. I don't know why. It was. Yes. I bet it would suck now if I had to go back and play it. Oh, yeah. Frogger was a great game back then. Oh, Frogger is still a great game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's because Frogger went that that's just now the that chicken one, that, where you just that's basically all it was. So it's yeah. Okay. Crossy Road.   You know? Yeah. It's just Frogger. That's all it is. Yeah. It Yeah. Didn't reinvent the wheel. It's just Frogger. It's just a endless loop Frogger. Instead of making it somewhere, it's an endless loop. Okay. Okay. Interesting.  

[01:26:29] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm. So do you ever find out why the chicken crossed the road?  

[01:26:33] Jesse Fries:

No. No.  

[01:26:35] Jamon Fries:

No. I was hoping maybe finally.  

[01:26:37] Jesse Fries:

I just don't care.  

[01:26:40] Jamon Fries:

The other the other study that I saw,   was dealing with young women.   They have discovered,   for some reason,   that health having a healthy diet in your childhood  

[01:26:55] Jesse Fries:

makes it so that you start menstruating late in life. Yeah. I was I read across that story too. Yeah. That that's a bit interesting. And it was it's because therefore a long time, they were saying that, like, if,   girls that were, like, obese   or something like that, they entered in. But it it's they they actually factored it due to just healthy eating.  

[01:27:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Not anything about weight, not anything about anything like that. Just healthy eating. Yeah. Yeah. Now it it it does correlate because the less healthy Well, of course. The more obese you will be. But, but depend no. That depends. You in in most in most cases, You could eat unhealthily, but eat little.  

[01:27:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   You you know, it's like because you could eat too much healthy food too. You know? I'm just saying. You you know? Yeah. A a lot of times that's my problem is that I will munch on, like, grapes and everything like that, like, way too much. I can finish off, like, five pounds in, like, a day. It it it can be it can get pretty bad. Yeah. Because I look Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of that's a lot of grapes. It is. It is. Yeah. Yeah. It it it goes right through you too, you know, the fiber in those.  

[01:28:05] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. So that that was that was an interesting story that I ran across that,   I mean, it makes complete sense. Every everybody that I've heard talking about it before now has always been, like, well, it's because of the hormones and stuff Oh, yeah. The hormones and the food and stuff like that, which I'm sure plays a small part in it. But,   you know, just   it it's kind of important for later on health because they found that that when girls who started menstruating earlier  

[01:28:34] Jesse Fries:

tend to have higher chances of, like, breast cancer and stuff like that. Oh, seborruses, all that fun stuff. Yep. Yep. Yep. Basically, all the things that kill women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:28:45] Jamon Fries:

It's, So so make sure that your daughters eat very healthy to begin with. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. After they start men's training, they can eat whatever the hell they want.  

[01:28:56] Jesse Fries:

Sounds like a perfect plan to me.   Absolutely.   Nothing but veggies beforehand and then gummy bears after that. Yeah.   Deep fried gummy bears.   Let's see here. Looks like Google is, wanting to   to,   build three nuclear plants,   600 megawatt plants,   for their data centers. It's for their data centers and stuff like that. Yep. Completely for their data centers. So,   they've partnered with some,   company. I can't remember what. But it it's the new generation,   plant. So  

[01:29:37] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:29:40] Jesse Fries:

We we just kinda entertaining.   Ed, you know, it's reliable power unlike what you have had in Spain. You know? Yep. So, you know, it's a Absolutely.   So it's a good thing there. What else do I got here? Oh, apparently And it's and it's a cheap power too.   Yes. Yes. It it's relatively cheap power. Yep. Yep.   But, also, apparently,   Antarctica   gained a hundred and eight gigatons of ice annually Yeah.   Between   '21 and '20 '3. So Yeah. I read about that. Yeah. Which is, like, kinda crazy. You know? It's,   Mhmm. If you look at the graph, it was like it was going down, go down, down, and then it just started going back up again.   Kinda crazy. So Yep.  

Yeah. The climate is crazy. You'd never know what's gonna happen,   with it. Yeah.   Is that that's all I gotta say. You know, it's like people it's not as   crazy as you wanted to think. You know? It's a if you wanna be depressed and scared about the world, you can be. But, Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:30:46] Jamon Fries:

The the way I've the way I've always looked at it is   no one knows what the weather's gonna do in the future.   Yep. Yep.   Our meteorologists   are lucky   to be able to figure out to be able to have a good idea of what's gonna happen a week before it happens.   Yeah. Yeah. So there's no way that any computer calculation that they do   is going to give them   a good   reliable   source of what's going to happen ten years from now.  

[01:31:22] Jesse Fries:

Well yeah. But I I I completely agree with you. I also add to it.   Basically,   try to be as clean as you possibly can. So I am all for  

[01:31:36] Jamon Fries:

trying to reduce   everything. I am completely I am all for getting rid of the I am all for getting rid of, like, coal plants and stuff like that because I want my I regardless of the global warming issues Right. Exactly. I want the air I breathe to be clean.  

[01:31:52] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Need the air to be clean,   need the planet to thrive. You know? Yeah. It's,   but yeah.   The whole global warming, though, it's like all the ice was supposed to be gone back in '13.   Yep.   We still have ice everywhere. So, you know, glaciers Yeah. There was supposed to be no ice on Kilimanjaro.   There's ice on Kilimanjaro.   There's all this crap that was supposed to happen that Al Gore threw down at us saying that we're all gonna die, everything like this, and it hasn't happened.  

[01:32:27] Jamon Fries:

Everybody goes we're gonna average over a hundred degrees before too long.  

[01:32:33] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Well well Throughout the year.  

[01:32:35] Jamon Fries:

One year here here in Texas, it was about that. I I mean, you know yeah. There there there was there there have been a few years where it's been undecidedly   warm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Yeah. At the same time, there have also been years where it's been quite a bit colder than it used to be. Yeah. Than they're used to. It's just  

[01:32:56] Jesse Fries:

so, yeah, just stop freaking out. You know, that that's all I'm trying to say. You know? Yeah. It's it's not  

[01:33:03] Jamon Fries:

Why why live your sales why live your life in fear because of something that   some computer projection says might possibly happen?  

[01:33:12] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. A computer projection that can't even   perfectly,   predict future weather events. Yeah. I I'm just  

[01:33:21] Jamon Fries:

what what you can actually tell me prediction that can't the computer prediction   that can't even   reliably, perfectly, accurately  

[01:33:30] Jesse Fries:

say what's gonna happen in ten days. Exactly. Exactly. No. They're getting better. Don't get me wrong. They are. Yes. Res,   ones out of Euro,   Europe, and we have one here now, I think.   They're they're getting a lot better, but Yep.   Still not perfect. So what's,   yeah. Yeah.  

[01:33:51] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I I always what what I always found funny was,   you know,   now I don't know if it's changed or not since when I first heard about this, but Uh-huh. You know how they come up with, like, the 20% chance of rain?  

[01:34:04] Jesse Fries:

Right. Yeah. It's like 20%   of the area.  

[01:34:07] Jamon Fries:

They they run 100   projections   or more,   and 25 20% of the time, it says that it's going to rain. The 80% of the time, it says it's not going to rain.   Yeah. Sounds about right. So so that's that's the 20% chance of rain because 20% of the hundreds or thousands   of projections that they've run for that day   say that it might rain.   Yep. Sounds right. That they are so far off with all of that that those computer projections are so far off   that are so different be to just, you know, one day to the next that Yep.   I mean, you can't rely on it.  



[01:34:50] Jesse Fries:

No. You really can't. You really can't. You know?   Yeah. Oh,   the pope. We haven't talked about the pope. I don't really have a story about the pope. But, No. No. Just the Yeah. The conclave is happening now. Conclave is happening.   And I did I've checked the history on the conclave. It it it's a kinda of a interesting sort of situation.   So the conclave actually didn't start until like, the first one was in December   or something like that.  

[01:35:21] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:35:23] Jesse Fries:

Before that, the pope was picked,   just by people getting together and electing. Right? And it would take you never knew how long it would take. You know? But there was this one.   It was in the election of Gregory the tenth, pope Gregory the tenth.   Basically, what happened is that nobody for, like, two and a half years, they couldn't pick a pope. Right? And Wow.   And it was happening in this town outside of Rome, because apparently, it used to be the rule   or the law where you would have to pick the pope.   You would have to elect the pope in the same city that the old pope died.  

Oh. Okay. Yeah. So that used to be yeah. Yeah. So there there was that law. So they had to pick this one town. It was a, like, twenty, thirty, 40 miles outside of Rome.   Yeah.   And so the town after two and a half years, this was going on. Right? And during this process, the town got tired of this. They got sick and tired of these freaking cardinals   not figuring it out. So what they did, they decided to well, they basically put them under key. They locked the doors. Literally locked the doors on these assholes. Right?   Fed them only bread and water   and say, no.  

And guess what? That's didn't work.   They still couldn't pick a pope   because there were two factions.   One was, like,   for one was basically French, even though France did not exist at the time. And then one was   Italian. And, well, Italy didn't exist at the time, technically, either. Yeah. So there are these two factions, and they both wanted the pope to be from their region. Right? And so they couldn't they couldn't figure it out. And so these guys got so sick and tired of it. They tried the conclave, locking them up, bread and water,   didn't work. They took the roof off the freaking building   because they go, well, the roof must be blocking the Holy Spirit   from getting to these households. And   so   so the Holy Spirit came. And guess what? It still didn't work.  

And and then, apparently, like, the monarchs got involved in, the formed a commission.   And the commission goes, okay. Well, we're gonna go with this bloke who decided to name himself Gregory the tenth.   And so it was, like, two years, nine months,   it took to elect this pope.   Damn.   That was the first conclave.   Right? But it's not recognized as the first conclave. And what's funny is that,   Gregory the tenth, he liked the conclave so much, he decided to make it   Catholic law.   Of course, he liked it. He got him into power. I know. And so he he made it Catholic law. And then, like, in, December,   that's when the first   conclave happened. Even though, technically so so it's like the first conclave technically wasn't the first conclave.  

You know, it's a but yeah. It was the precursor.   It was the precursor. So that is the reason why they all get locked up.   So   now I'm not sure if they would allow us to take the roof off the Sistine Chapel. Probably not. I I have to go up there. Doubt that they would. Yeah. There's some frescoes up there that, kinda priceless. Yeah.   But just in case if this one takes a long time, maybe we could take the roof   off   that   sucker.  

[01:38:53] Jamon Fries:

Oh, nice. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Found a town I wanna move to. Uh-huh.   Down there in Texas.  

[01:39:03] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:39:05] Jamon Fries:

The the town around the the, SpaceX Starbase launch site   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Decided to incorporate into a city.  

[01:39:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Starbase.   Yep.  

[01:39:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They they even have, like You know, if nothing else, it would make me feel like I, you know, had joined the space race because I lived in Starbase.  

[01:39:25] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Most people there work for, SpaceX anyways. So Yep. All the street signs have a big, rockets on them. So they have big Nice. Symbols   all over the town.  

[01:39:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. My my thought though is, you know, since this is basically a town that's   essentially   owned and operated by   and related to to SpaceX.   Uh-huh. And it it of course, it's not because it's its own town and so, you know, people vote for their mayor and stuff like that. But Right.   If they all work for SpaceX, so it's basically still part of SpaceX.   Does that mean that   it's gonna be a very high-tech town? If it's gonna be a very high-tech town, I wanna live there.  

[01:40:15] Jesse Fries:

High-tech as in, like, rocketry. Yeah. Yeah. It'll definitely be because it it's just what it is. It's just a spaceport.  

[01:40:22] Jamon Fries:

So yeah. Yeah. But I mean yeah. Because I   I read a lot of books and stuff like that, and there's some that I've read that   that talk about how, you know,   in some   these are not based on Earth, of course. But, you know, in in there's in some of the in some of the countries or some of the kingdoms, they have, like, this town that   every new technological   update is first in introduced in this town.   Mhmm. And then it spreads across the country.   And so,   you know, I there's so many technological   updates that have happened that   don't make it to the general population. I think it would just be cool if there were, like, this town in The US   that just was the melting pot pot of all of the tech.  



[01:41:14] Jesse Fries:

That would be cool. That would be cool.   Right now,   it used to be Silicon Valley.  

[01:41:20] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:41:21] Jesse Fries:

But that's kinda   it's lost its edge, I think. Most of it. Has. Yeah. I think most of that sort of tech has gone towards China.   Yep.   But when it comes to rocketry,  

[01:41:33] Jamon Fries:

holy hell, SpaceX is Oh, yeah. Big time. You can't beat them. You can't beat them. Really, you can't.   No. I'd I'd you know, to even just the the byproducts of the of the rocketry that they've invented, I mean, the benefits that those byproducts could bring to just normal everyday life are   are insane.  

[01:41:53] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Completely.  

[01:41:58] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. You got something funny to go off on, though?  

[01:42:03] Jamon Fries:

Well, I've got a couple. I'm not really sure which one of these is funny per se.  

[01:42:08] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:42:09] Jamon Fries:

They're definitely   chuckle worthy, though. Okay.   Okay. So one of them is,   you know, Shidar Sanders, the, quarterback that was that they thought was gonna go in the first round but didn't go till the fifth. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Well,   one of his fans has now filed a million dollar a hundred million dollar lawsuit against the FL NFL   for racial discrimination.  

[01:42:36] Jesse Fries:

Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know that story that much. So but that is a Yeah.  

[01:42:42] Jamon Fries:

I it's kinda funny that a fan of his is suing instead of Yeah. Yeah. Him. So It's a fan of his, not him. He's he has no pro he doesn't seem to have a problem with it, but this fan of his  

[01:42:54] Jesse Fries:

Well, he can't have a problem with it because if he does, he will never work in the NFL again. Well, yeah. So   Yep. So if you wanna work in the NFL, you cannot sue the NFL.  

[01:43:05] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   JD Vance made a joke in a press conference.   Uh-oh. And, of course, you know, the Huffington Post said, he's threatening   soccer fans.   Alright. Like, in The United States or outside The United States? That that that's the question. No. This was for the, upcoming FIFA that's gonna be held here in The US. Oh, okay. Okay. The tournament?   Right. Right. Right.   He said, everyone, you're welcome to come. We hope you have a great time.   But once everything's done, you have to go home. If you don't, you're gonna be talking to Kristi Noem.   So they said that he was threatening soccer fans.  



[01:43:54] Jesse Fries:

He's just letting them know our immigration policies.  

[01:43:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:43:58] Jesse Fries:

You know? There's nothing wrong with that. And thank you for joining us for episode 36 of the Mindless Media Podcast. I'm Jesse Friese.  

[01:44:06] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Friese. And you guys have a great week.