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(00:00:22) Drummer dreams dashed

(00:01:31) Realizing limits

(00:02:52) Epstein files vs. Jack Smith politics debate

(00:05:14) Transparency, redactions, and the court of public opinion

(00:06:51) Emails, redactions, and media selectivity

(00:07:41) All politicians are shady? Exceptions and party lines

(00:09:48) Bernie, party loyalty, and the system steamrolls dissent

(00:10:40) Obamacare subsidies and House maneuvering

(00:14:19) Government shutdown aftermath and SNAP payouts

(00:15:38) Earmarks, self-dealing, and late-night takes on spending

(00:17:04) CRs, debt, and Americas love affair with credit

(00:19:01) Credit scores, secured cards, and debit vs. credit risks

(00:21:16) Drive-thru double charges, fees, and tipping add-ons

(00:22:26) Tariff checks math, deficits, and where money should go

(00:24:22) Healthcare subsidies, HSAs, and ACA critiques

(00:26:30) Deductibles, affordability, and employer HSA incentives

(00:28:17) Driver data sharing, ICE access, and policy fallout

(00:30:01) Crime, labels, and policing debates in big cities

(00:34:34) Judicial overreach or due process? Immigration courts

(00:38:05) Courts as political actors and appointment optics

(00:41:20) Podcast demographics, a quick break, and fiber internet

(00:44:52) ISP costs, speeds, and choosing fiber over cable

(00:47:14) Low-barrier podcasting and hosting tradeoffs

(00:49:54) Show prep philosophy and live news riffing

(00:52:11) Media headlines vs. article content on Epstein stories

(00:55:00) China in Venezuela and great-power sphere games

(00:58:25) EU antitrust aims at Google and Dont be evil legacy

(01:01:00) EU regulation sprawl and platform workarounds

(01:01:30) Bosnias darkest rumors and paid hunts

(01:03:45) Value-for-value pitch and keeping the lights on

(01:04:44) Googles AI shopping concierge and laziness creep

(01:08:56) Gifts, garage gear, and trailer life upgrades

(01:09:12) What users ask AI for: stats, therapy, and boundaries

(01:12:55) Tech upheavals, privacy risks, and future personal AIs

(01:16:28) Teens, AI, and the pesticide arms race

(01:19:15) Dogs, chocolate, and end-of-life choices

(01:20:21) Bar complaints, legal strategy, and double standards

(01:23:39) SSRIs, lasting side effects, and study skepticism

(01:26:15) AI music tops charts, cliches, and bot suspicion

(01:29:39) Spotting AI faces and hands; training your eye

(01:31:16) Dog shoots man: gun safety and a lucky escape

(01:32:35) Sign-off and see you Monday

[00:00:22] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon,   everybody.   It is Thursday, November 13, and we are live with episode 79 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries, and I'm trying to figure out which scandal is bigger, the Epstein or the Jack Smith?  

[00:00:38] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries, and   I am extremely disappointed. My hopes are dashed. My dreams are destroyed.   It sucks.  

[00:00:50] Jesse Fries:

Okay. About what? Just just just that? Okay.  

[00:00:54] Jamon Fries:

That works. That works. Ever ever since I was very little, you know, I you should know. I have always, like,   beat on tables in my legs, in my in my stomach, and stuff like that, kinda playing drums with things.   Okay.   And so I've always thought that I was able to keep a beat pretty good and that I would make a good drummer out there. And it's like I had always thought about buying a drum set. Okay.   But about three days ago, I watched a video   and a little 10 year old girl,   Asian girl,   they they had her they she had both her hands on the table Mhmm. And they had a metronome playing in the background.   Right. And they put a quarter note in front of both of her hands. So she starts doing the quarter note with both of her hands, you know, for every beat, she hits the table once. Right. Then they put an eighth note in front of her wonder in front of one of her hands. So she starts doing the eighth note with one hand, but the quarter quarter note with the other hand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

Then they put a quarter note in front of or an eighth note in front of both. So she's doing both at the double time now. Right.   Then they put a triplet in front of one of her hands. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Triplets are fucking annoying.   Uh-huh.   I I lost pace at that point. I couldn't keep up with her anymore. My hands were just flying all over the fucking place.   So I know for sure I will never be a good drummer now. Oh, Jay, man.  

[00:02:16] Jesse Fries:

My hopes are destroyed. They are destroyed. They are destroyed. Destroyed. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? I know.  

[00:02:24] Jamon Fries:

Oh, well. Right?  

[00:02:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:02:28] Jamon Fries:

And   which which which,   controversy is bigger?  

[00:02:32] Jesse Fries:

No. Which skin? Skin. What's your skin? I I would say it's scandal. Yeah. It's,   Yeah.   Well, one is   one is, like, it's just sex. Yes. It's with minors or whatnot or Yeah. And so on and so forth.   But it it's   so that that's that.   The the other one, like, politically,   I think, like, for the government, it's a bigger one because it's, like, actual misusing   of Yeah.   Prosecutorial   powers   to try to get your political opponents. Because it just came out that what?   He went after McCarthy   or,   McCarthy. Yeah. The Yeah. Who was speaker of the house at the time. He was also trying to get those.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's   like He's going after everybody. I'm sorry. That is completely,   completely messed up. You know? If you were a Republican, he was going after you. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, so to for me, it's like,   can you   and this is why, like, Swalwell, he's a Democrat. Apparently, he's about to be indicted on fraud charges for mortgage fraud.  

Okay. I just saw that as well. So, you know, it's just   it's just this back and forth. You know, the Epstein thing,   I   it's   just release it. I I I I am with that side. Just release it. I I I do  

[00:04:04] Jamon Fries:

I do hope that it gets released,   but there has to be   some some   kind of,   if you still have to   censor out names of people that   may not have been involved?   Well, see, that's the thing. That that that's always No. I I I know. That that's the problem. See, to me, that's the problem with them releasing it is that   there will I mean, I'm sure that there are a lot of names listed   that had nothing to do with anything.   Well, right. Because he knew a lot of people.   No. I I I I'm I know what you're And so yeah. I so the the aspect of the innocent being accused at the same time and not yes. It wouldn't be in the court of law or anything like that because, obviously, no. They know that these people had nothing to do with anything. Right. Right. But in but in the world of public opinion,   it could completely destroy people that had absolutely nothing to do with any of the  

[00:05:05] Jesse Fries:

bad things that were going on. Yeah. But if you if you actually censor   if you  

[00:05:10] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I know. If you sense Then nobody's gonna believe it. Say, well, what are you hiding from us? Exactly.   So it's so it it's one of those things where   I would love for the information to just finally get out there so that everybody could just shut the fuck up about it. Yep. Yep. But at the same time,   you need to protect the innocent people that that may have gotten wrapped up in things that No. I where they but where they did nothing illegal. So I I I don't know how to do it. Yeah. No. I I don't either. There's no   good way to do it. No. There isn't. Because as long as long as one piece of information is not shared,   somebody out there is gonna be yelling and screaming that they're hiding something. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's just like all these,  

[00:05:58] Jesse Fries:

the the Trump emails now that they're throwing around there that that really   don't really show much of anything, but they go, oh, look at this. Absolutely nothing. Yeah. Yeah. But they're like, oh my god. Look at this. Okay. So they redacted the the the lady's name  

[00:06:14] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm. Even though she had gone out publicly   saying   that she knew Trump, that she had worked for Trump, that she met Trump, that she had met Trump a few times Right. Afterwards.   But they redacted her name to make it look like it was somebody else that he had met with. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Somebody that we didn't know about.   What the fuck?   Yeah. No. It it is They were very selective about the emails that they released. Oh, of course. Because   according according to almost everyone,   there's a lot of emails with Democrat high up names in them Uh-huh. That weren't released. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Pretty much I would say pretty much everybody that was, like, a  

[00:06:56] Jesse Fries:

a representative or senator at the time was probably on that list. I'm just Absolutely. Yes.   I I you know, the thing is is that   I think we've all learned,   hopefully.   Unless if you're young, But I think we have all learned   that they're all shit. Every single last person up there is shit. It it it doesn't matter. You know? That that's  

[00:07:21] Jamon Fries:

If you go into politics, you already have a huge   strike against you for being a good person.   Because a politician cannot be a good person.  

[00:07:31] Jesse Fries:

It's almost an impossibility.   And if they are, they get,   they get They get corrupted very quickly. Well, some of them. I I would say there are a few.  

[00:07:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Maybe a few. Like like,  

[00:07:44] Jesse Fries:

Ron Paul,   Rand Paul. I think they're pretty decent people.   I I'm sure they have their shadiness.  

[00:07:50] Jamon Fries:

Everybody knows. But I think overall, they not nearly as bad of a shadiness, and it's not. Right. Right.   You know, something that would destroy their career and their lives  

[00:08:00] Jesse Fries:

if they came out. They they they stick to   their beliefs.   Yes.   It's like you would hope that Bernie Sanders is the same way, but he just   he he's a Democrat by any other name. Oh, yeah. He says he's an independent, and he may be more of a socialist, but he's a he votes party line 100% of the time. I don't know when he does. The only way he's   a I'm sure he hasn't sometimes in the past. But, you know, in general. You know? It's Maybe, like, fifty years ago.  

[00:08:30] Jamon Fries:

Maybe so. I I I don't know how long he's been in politics.   Oh, he he You know? Fifty years ago, I I could believe that he may have been independent,   but not anymore. No. And I think I think at that point in time, he was probably independent because he was far more liberal and more left leaning and socialist   than the Democrat party would would ever admit to at that point in time. Right. Right. Right.   Or that they were. Always been a socialist.  

[00:08:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Always. Completely. Yep. Yep. Yeah.   He stuck to that at least. That's about the Oh, yeah. Beyond that. You know, he he will tow the party line. He will Yep. He he bowed out of even though he probably would have won the Democratic,   convention,   or the primary process against Hillary. But, he just he let the system ride him over. Like, that system moves, rides people over.  

[00:09:19] Jamon Fries:

Because he's  

[00:09:20] Jesse Fries:

No. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And the the either somebody has something on him or he wants something, you know. Yes. Yeah. Big time. Absolutely. Shadiness, you know. Yep. Yep.   That's yeah.  

[00:09:35] Jamon Fries:

Talking about shadiness   Uh-huh.   The the Democrats are going full out. They've they're pulling out all the stops to keep the Obamacare subsidy   subsidy subsidy subsidy Subsidies. Going.   Okay. They   have there's a   I I guess, they're going to try to   force   the house now to put it to vote.   Okay.   I'm not really sure   just what all is involved with that, but,   there's a   what is it called?   There's a procedure that you can do in the house that Right. Even if even if you're not in the majority,  

[00:10:21] Jesse Fries:

you can still force it to a vote. And No. Yeah. That that's that's why the Democrats wanted that one   chick from Arizona,  

[00:10:29] Jamon Fries:

representative to be sworn in, but it was for the Epstein files Right. Yeah. On that. But it was just to force with her but now with her, they also have the the ability to force the vote on the   Obamacare subsidies.  

[00:10:43] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So so congratulations.  

[00:10:47] Jamon Fries:

So you Well, what what they're what they're doing is they're they're doing well, they're what they're doing is they're doing this so that they can   definitively say   in the midterms   Oh, yeah. I know. That the Republicans voted against it. No. Yeah. Completely. Yeah.  

[00:11:01] Jesse Fries:

No. I know why. I know why. Yeah. It's just   is there a bill for it out there already? Or  

[00:11:10] Jamon Fries:

well, not really. There have been there have been,   some people have   put together   a,   there were some house Republicans and democarets that were working together that put together a   potential   bill for   reopening,   for reopening   this the government   Uh-huh. That they were thinking about pushing about about getting getting the the problem is that they didn't have enough Democrats to sign it. There weren't enough Democrats in the house that were willing to sign a bill that continued pay continued paying these   these,   subsidies   for   up through the end of the quarter.  

Okay.   So this would have been a a thing that would have guaranteed the subsidies up to the end of the quarters, that everything could get paid, and so that the so that the government could keep running. Essentially, it would it would have extended,   it would have extended the subsidies by, like, half a year or something like that. I I don't know exactly how it would how it was worded or anything. Because I've I never really saw anything about it. I just saw it in some of the things where the Democrats were were ambushing Republicans in the in this in the halls trying to get them to say something that would sound bad.   Yeah. You just normal politics. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in response to that, the Republicans were going after the Democrat leaders saying, look, we've got this bill that we're try that we're looking at, that we're trying to get through. We just need more Democrats to sign it. They were talking to Jeffries,   Jeffries at this time. Uh-huh. If you can get your people to sign it, we can   get this rolling. We can extend these subsidies out a little bit longer so that we can have true real discussions about everything.  

But the Democrats would never sign this bill to the Democrats in the house would never sign the bill   to put something through that would have given the Democrats in the senate   what they wanted, a slight extension.   Yeah. That sounds about right. And the whole the entire reason for that I've watched a lot of videos now.   The entire reason for that in my belief is that   if they signed that,   they would no longer have leverage in the senate to get what they wanted.  

[00:13:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. I can see that. I can see that. It's all about the leverage in the senate. No. Yeah. That that that's, that's what they wanna do. So Yeah.  

[00:13:44] Jamon Fries:

It's pretty much how it was is. It's how it was is. So Yeah. But I mean, so so yeah. So that's these so that's what they're trying to to do now, though. They're trying to force the vote to   some people are trying to trying to say that it'll be that the subsidies will be funded up until   up for three years, so as long as Trump is in office. And then after Trump's in out of office, then they'll try to try to do it  

[00:14:13] Jesse Fries:

further. Yeah. Yeah. They're hoping the Democrat will be in there then. Yes. Exactly.  

[00:14:17] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm. Yep.  

[00:14:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Well, yeah. Speaking of all that, the the shutdown is over, you know, so there's that. Yes. It is. Yep. So that's   good or bad. I don't know.   Yeah. You you know? It's, like,  

[00:14:32] Jamon Fries:

good for Snap people and whatnot. But, you know, it it It's good. Well, I mean, yeah, not not really because, you know, according to the judges, and it's already happened, Snap had to start paying out again. So Yeah. Yeah. So this actually does isn't beneficial to people on Snap because they were getting I got all my I got all my Snap money.  

[00:14:52] Jesse Fries:

Your $12 or whatever? My $24.  

[00:14:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Oh.  

[00:14:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Big money. Big money.  

[00:14:59] Jamon Fries:

But I I I got that when they when,   when Trump said we're gonna give half of the money, we're gonna pay out half for SNAP. Right. I think the state was like, oh, fuck. This is only $24. Yeah. We're just gonna pay the whole thing. Exactly. That's not gonna do anything. That's not gonna do a thing. That extra $12 ain't gonna hurt us at all. Mhmm.  

[00:15:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But but   looks like there was some sort of hinkiness where the senate put in that $500,000   to those senators that had their   phones leaked or something like that,   which pissed off the Republicans in Oh, yeah. The house. Like, seriously pissed off. They're they're they're trying to get that, revoked.   I don't know. It's like,   come on, guys. You know? It's just   you don't need $500,000.   I'm sorry. You don't need $500,000.  

[00:15:53] Jamon Fries:

No. No. And and, you know, just try telling me that the government is not corrupt when you keep finding ways to give yourselves money. Right? Exactly.  

[00:16:03] Jesse Fries:

Looking at you, Ted Cruz   and Lindsey Graham.  

[00:16:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It it's everyone left and right. You know, I I saw I saw a,   a show,   the Jimmy Fela show on Fox on Fox late at night. No clue. Uh-huh.   Yeah. He he's the same he he's on at the same time as Jimmy Fallon and, you know, all those others that that all the late night stuff. But he's he's Fox's answer to it.   And   he him and him and this other lady who's a regular Fox contributor on the five and on Gutfeld,   they were they were talking. And and she was like, you know,   there's one thing regardless of what any anyone says that we will always know comes out that comes out of a shutdown.   Mhmm. He's like, what's that?  

It's that the government is gonna be spending more money. Yep. Yep.   No matter what it the government is shut down for, it's always the government   spending more money is what results in the government opening back up again.  

[00:17:05] Jesse Fries:

It it really is. It really is. Yeah.   Yeah. Clean CR would have been nice. But It would have been. Yes. Or, you know, as we were promised that the big beautiful bill would, get rid of this whole crap. But, no.   Yeah. It's,   thanks, Trump.  

[00:17:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I really,   really wish that we could act   actually   have a balance of budget at some point in time in in the in the Congress. Yeah. That's not good. It ever happened in our I know. It won't. Yeah. No. I know. It won't. I mean,   but I mean, you know, it   because well, it won't happen because that would mean that we actually had to look at what where all the money was going instead of just saying, yeah. Yeah. You're doing a good job. So just keep spending the money that we that would that you wanna spend. Yeah. Yeah. That's all a continuing resolution  

[00:17:58] Jesse Fries:

is. It's just It is. Let's go into more debt. Spending the money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep going more debt. Woo hoo. Let's do it.  

[00:18:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. After all, you know, in this country, debt is good.  

[00:18:09] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yep.  

[00:18:11] Jamon Fries:

You know it. If you talk to any financial planner and they'll say debt is good,   except for one.  

[00:18:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a guy of a really good credit score. Right? But they go,   people that have your credit score generally have about six more credit cards than you do. Yeah. Do you wanna apply for what? I was like, oh, no. I'm good, dude. I I just need I have two.  

[00:18:33] Jamon Fries:

You you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we have I have Carol has one and I have one. And and I have a fair credit rating. Yep. Yep. And it says and I keep being told that your credit rating would be better if you had debt.  

[00:18:46] Jesse Fries:

No. It would, actually. It would. No. I would. I know it would. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. That that's how credit  

[00:18:52] Jamon Fries:

Why do I have to go in debt for people to think that I'm financially secure?  

[00:18:57] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's basically what you could do is you could just have a credit card and then just  

[00:19:01] Jamon Fries:

use that pay and then pay it off. Yeah. To use that to pay your bills and just pay pay it off monthly. Yeah. I I've thought about that,   but with my debt, I'm not even qualified for a low interest credit card.   Well, you don't need it. Not not with my debt. With with my credit score.   No. With my credit score, I am only eligible   for prepaid credit cards.   Well, you could do that. But yeah. So But they don't affect your credit. Yes. They do. No. Because it's not debt. No. He didn't. To have money in the card in order to spend it. It's essentially It it it it affected mine. Jaimen, I had one.   And that's You you probably had a,   what's the term for it? There there's one where With a deposit?  

Yeah. Where you put a deposit down, but you have a credit limit that tires into deposit. No. It was the same as the deposit.   Okay. Well, the the ones that they say I'm eligible for are prepaid, which are different.   That is   how I can put a certain amount of money into the card, and I can only spend that money.   Right. So it essentially works like a bank account with a debit card. No. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's what we had. Yeah. Well, yeah. But, I mean, they they operate the same, but they're termed different. I I I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. A prepaid credit card, according to everything I've read,   does not affect your credit, whereas   a secured credit card does.  

You can't get a secured credit card is where you've got to deposit it. Yeah. You can't get a secure  

[00:20:34] Jesse Fries:

credit card or not? Not looking at the  

[00:20:38] Jamon Fries:

I would think you would I get I get lots of stuff from, like, Capital One saying I'm preapproved for credit cards. Right. Right. Right. But  

[00:20:45] Jesse Fries:

But you should be able to at least get a credit card. I would see why not.  

[00:20:49] Jamon Fries:

It's possible that I could. But Yeah. Because you put the money down and it's secured. Yeah. There you go.   Yeah. I I mean, it's possible that I could. And and I've I have thought about it because it is safer to do that. Right. Because I I use debit card for everything. And with a debit card, you can't contest any charges.   Whereas with a credit   whereas with a credit card of any kind, you can always contest the charges. Oh, yeah. The company won't pay them. So Yep. Yep. So I I have often thought about doing that especially for, like, you know, going through a drive through or something like that. I've been I've had my card swipe swipe twice before.   Mhmm. So I paid for somebody else's meal without knowing about it. Oh, lovely.  

Yeah.   I saw I saw a video of of this one guy. He he went into the he was on a motorcycle, drove up to the to, like, a Starbucks drive through. Mhmm.   And the cashier just instantly put, like, a 10% tip   on the bill, didn't inform him of it, and they handed him the credit card back.  

[00:21:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They they they do that from time to time. Yeah.   Yeah. It's,   or it's like the places that go, oh, yeah. There's   a 18% service fee, but we expect you to still tip. It's like going Yeah. Yeah. No. No. And then they go, oh, that's for the back of the house. I go he's like, go, no.  

[00:22:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:22:13] Jesse Fries:

They get paid minimum slave. They don't get tips back there. No. Or they get maybe not minimum slave, but they get something. You know? They it's just a regular paycheck. It's not Yep.   Yeah. So,   let's see here. What else do we have?   Let's see.   The tariff checks, looks like that's kinda like like Scott Bessett, the secretary of treasury is, like, going,   maybe not. And then there's been so many things going. The math isn't math in here. So it's, yeah.  

[00:22:45] Jamon Fries:

I I   $2,000   is a lot of money per for everyone to get. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yep. That's a lot of money. It is. It is a lot of money. And,   you know, I I could definitely I I definitely don't want to see the government giving out money like that. Mhmm. I wasn't happy even with the $600   that they wanted to give to everybody Right. For the tariffs.   Because as far as I'm concerned, until, you know, it with it with my find with the way I am financially,   I believe that before you   start spending money   on extra   populous things, such as   giving money to people that they vote for you, because, I mean, that's kinda what it is. Yeah. It's completely what it is. You need to eliminate your debt first. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.  

Yep. Yep. I I want all of that money just put it straight to the it all the excess money that we get from that, I just want put straight into   eliminating the debt.   In in fact,   right now, we still pay income taxes. So they still get all our money from income taxes. So every single penny that comes in from tariffs, that's all extra money. That should all go directly to the debt.   Every penny of it.  

[00:24:02] Jesse Fries:

I I agree. I agree. Let's get rid of the debt. Plain and simple. Once the debt's gone,  

[00:24:09] Jamon Fries:

then we can talk about reducing everyone's  

[00:24:11] Jesse Fries:

income taxes. Yeah. That'd be nice. That'd be nice. Yeah.   Okay. What else do you have? To give people money. Yep. Yep. Completely.  

[00:24:22] Jamon Fries:

Then we also have another talking about   use of money is,   the Trump with his, wanting to pay the health care, wanting to just give them money directly to people for health care. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I I'm I'm 90% sure. So I haven't seen his any of his official plans or anything like that. But I'm 90% sure that he means what he means by that is that they would could put money into a health savings account. Uh-huh.   Well, what ABC News expects everyone to do with that money   is that instead of the government giving it to the insurance company, that they would turn around to give it to the insurance company,   which would mean that since it wasn't coming directly   from the government, there   wouldn't be any limitations on how they could use the money. Therefore, he thinks that the insurance companies would just take it and pad their banks.  



[00:25:17] Jesse Fries:

Well, that's all they're doing now for crisis. I know.  

[00:25:20] Jamon Fries:

I know.  

[00:25:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. They they they there's yeah. It's  

[00:25:27] Jamon Fries:

But, yeah, the the the article   ABC News wrote that it was it was like, that is just gonna go directly to the insurance companies.   No.   No. That's what the ACA is. We would to go to the insurance companies. He wants to get rid of the ACA.  

[00:25:44] Jesse Fries:

Exact   how how how does the ACA not all that money just go directly to the insurance company? It does.  

[00:25:51] Jamon Fries:

That that's all it does is it goes directly to the insurance companies. Yeah. And the subsidies are not given to individuals. They're given directly to the insurance companies so that the insurance companies don't charge as much.  

[00:26:02] Jesse Fries:

But they charge us a lot, and they don't give us an exact They charge us a lot. They have massive,  

[00:26:09] Jamon Fries:

massive deductibles.  

[00:26:11] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. You you know? The   the yeah. No. Really, the whole thing should have said, okay. You cannot turn down any procedure.   Yeah.   Just you can't do it. You have to give the procedure. 100%   every procedure, pay for it, you son of a bitch. You know? That that's really what it should've been because otherwise It should've been. Yeah. Otherwise, it's just the same crap over and over and over again. Yeah.  

[00:26:36] Jamon Fries:

No deductible.   Yep. And you cover everything. That's what it should have been.  

[00:26:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Or low deductible, you know, if you Yeah.  

[00:26:45] Jamon Fries:

Couple grand out of the pocket wouldn't hurt too bad, you know, but, you know, it's Well, yeah. It all depends on how much you're paying for the for the insurance. They should they should have no deductible plans, and then they should have for lower income people.   I mean, that that that's a problem though, is that if the less that you can afford to spend, the higher your deductible is, which means that the less you're gonna be able to use the insurance because your deductible   hasn't been met yet. Yes. Yes. Yep. So where the hell is the Amer is the Affordable Care Act helping anyone?  

[00:27:15] Jesse Fries:

It really isn't helping anybody. It really is. No. You you know, it's like there's a company companies,   it's like GM.   Their plan, it's a high deductible plan. Yeah. But   it's like they give us,   like, a grand or 2   every   month   or every year when we get a physical.  

[00:27:36] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:27:37] Jesse Fries:

They just get that is put into the HSA.  

[00:27:41] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Yeah.   So they So they give they give you they give you benefits for  

[00:27:46] Jesse Fries:

maintaining your health is what you're saying then? Yeah. They give us a few grand, but it's still that still doesn't cover the deductible. The deductible for the family is, like, $8 or $10 or something like that. It's ridiculous.   Yep. But then we put away enough   per month   to cover that for the year, you know. So Yeah. Absolutely.   But, yeah, it's a   it's a it's a hinky situation. It's all weird.  

[00:28:13] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. It's really big time.  

[00:28:18] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Let's see here.   What else do we have? That I have is  

[00:28:26] Jamon Fries:

so it says lawmakers that did never talk about who said who the lawmakers were Uh-huh.   Are warning Democratic governors that states are sharing driver's data with ICE.  

[00:28:37] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:28:39] Jamon Fries:

I guess there are some there there are some states   that have made it so that ICE can't even check a driver's license anymore.   Hey. Yeah. They can't look to see if a driver's license is legitimate or not anymore. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's  

[00:28:56] Jesse Fries:

it's it's complete bullshit. It really is. The the the the the level of   yeah.  

[00:29:05] Jamon Fries:

I I don't even know what to call it. You you know, the level of You know you know what this mean? You know what happens because of this? What?   If ICE cannot check the legitimacy   of a driver's license Mhmm.   The only thing they can do is detain   everyone there.  

[00:29:25] Jesse Fries:

Well, that that'd be okay with the Democrats.  

[00:29:28] Jamon Fries:

No. I know it would because it makes them look bad. Exactly. Exactly. It's all about So the thing that the the things that they keep accusing the the the Republicans of having ICE due,   they're having to be done because they refuse to share the appropriate information.   Sounds about right.  

[00:29:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And, you know, every so often there are mistakes, you know, that's just how things Oh, of course. I mean, that that happens all the time. I mean But yeah. It's   I don't know. Did did you hear that the Chicago mayor, he he wants the UN to stop in and stop ice? I did. Yes. He he want he wants the UN to to come after them here for human's rights violation.   Send them the blue helmets. You mean that useless   piece of crap force? Yeah. That makes sense.  

[00:30:14] Jamon Fries:

Uh-huh. But at the at the on the plus side, I did see a report that after the National Guard went into Chicago.   Uh-huh.   Crime dropped pretty heavy. Imagine that. Imagine that. Yeah. Imagine what happens when you send more enforcement agents out.  

[00:30:30] Jesse Fries:

It works. It works. Yeah. You know? You stop to stop doing shit in front of them. See, that's that's the one thing I've never freaking understood is   why do you want the crime? Literally,   why do you want the crime? Yeah. You know, it's   is it   I I don't I don't understand that. You know? They're a criminal. Yes. Okay. Yeah. They're a person. Yes. I understand that. But they're also a criminal.   Yeah. Plain and simple.   You you you know, this whole idea of, oh, don't don't you don't,   label them. You you know, like, calling somebody homeless.   This is so so so instead, you may say, like, a unhoused   individual or something like that. What the hell is the difference between an unhoused and homeless? There's no difference. It's the same fucking thing. It's the same thing. It's just like saying mentally challenged instead of retard. You know? It's just that same sort of thing to where   it it it's not   it's not the word. It's that Yeah. The thing tied to that word. Yeah. It's like, okay. So instead of, me calling you a retard, I'll call you mentally challenged   even though I know you're not. You  

[00:31:41] Jamon Fries:

you you know, it's less To me, that's actually even worse   because I often wanna kill people retards   not because they're not because they're mentally challenged, but just because they're so fucking dumb and their ideas make no sense. Well, right. Right. Right. No. It's   Yeah. Retard is   just means that your thought is retarded.   It slowed down. You're not thinking properly.  

[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But, really, it does good time back just to Oh, no. I I'm I know. I know. I know. But but yeah. It it's   yeah. No. It's like it's it's like, instead of saying blind, you say vision impaired. It it's like Yes. What   why?   Yeah.   Blind means that. That is what blind means you can't see.  

[00:32:29] Jamon Fries:

Exactly.   Deaf. It means that you are visually impaired. Deaf means you can't hear. Yes. This is this is what it means. You you know, so it's like This is the the literal the   The definition of it. Yeah. The the encyclopedia definition of it. Yes. Yeah. It  

[00:32:49] Jesse Fries:

it's just the definition. That's what it is. Yeah. And so   yeah. I   this whole idea of   not saying what it is. You you you know, it's like   Yeah. I the try try to do that, which leads you know, these are criminals.   Mhmm.   Yes. We know there's other aspects to them. Yes. We know this kind of those fathers, their brothers, their sons, their daughters.   Well, they're here. We know this. As long as they are here without legal permission   Well, no. It just I'm just saying criminal in general, whether documented or not. Right. I'm just saying this whole idea, you know, the crime rate. That's what I'm talking about. It's it's it's like Okay. In Chicago,   much of that crime rate is is native born crime rate. It is not Yeah. That is not true. Yeah.  



[00:33:35] Jamon Fries:

And so it's that crime rate that is also coming. And so Criminals criminals are criminals while there are also many other things.  

[00:33:43] Jesse Fries:

No. Yes. They're still criminals.  

[00:33:44] Jamon Fries:

They still need to go in front of a judge. They still need to be judged. If they get caught. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. It's yeah. It's just   yeah. And, well, I I mean, if if if we're talking about them, they've obviously been caught.  

[00:33:58] Jesse Fries:

Well,  

[00:34:00] Jamon Fries:

they're they're you don't like health control. The Democrats they all the Democrats only complain once we've caught them.  

[00:34:06] Jesse Fries:

Well, that is true. That is true. But then, you know, that's They don't complain about the criminals we don't catch.   Right. Right. No. Of course. Of course.   But yeah. So yeah.   I I think I lost my train of thought on that one. So probably we   went way off road.   What next?  

[00:34:25] Jamon Fries:

Okay. The next one I that's all that I have for for the federal government. Oh, okay.   Yeah. So I think we're done with fed with the government now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. But Well,   onto immigration.   Yeah.   So a judge has signaled   that   they   are going to tell ICE that   they have to release,   hundreds of people Yep. From the detention center.   Yeah.   Because they weren't legally   arrested or something   is what they said. I I don't know how it came about that. There's a  

[00:35:12] Jesse Fries:

a consent decree, apparently.   Okay. Which I've never fully understood   consent degrees. It's not technically the law. It's an agreement that you go into   with   a judge or with   a body of whatever. And,   basically, it says that they won't  

[00:35:31] Jamon Fries:

do it or something like that. But, you you know, it's not technically law. So so, like, you so so they won't go into the halls to wait for  

[00:35:39] Jesse Fries:

these people to come out of their out of the courtroom to then arrest them. Them. Things like that. Or or like mass mass arrests. I think this one was for about mass arrests.   So   yeah. Yeah. It it's all stupid. It really is.   Technically,   these are immigration cases which don't even fall into normal court. See, that's the problem. Yeah.   Yeah. I I seriously think the Supreme Court needs to just decide that normal courts cannot hear immigration   issues at all. Absolutely.   Yeah. Absolutely. I it'd be because it's a whole different standard for everything. Well, they they don't it's different standards. It's different regulations. It's different laws.  

[00:36:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, when you're a judge, a judge in a normal courtroom   has never   had the research into immigration law in the past. Right. Right. And then they don't know the rules. Yeah. Yep. Yep.  

[00:36:33] Jesse Fries:

It's also like,   what what is due process? It it means different things in these different courts. So, you know, it's   Yeah. So yeah. I I think the Supreme Court just needs to come down and tell these judges   back off.   Yeah. Because because it's stupid. It's to the point where nothing can get done. And if we can't get anything done, it's the courts   how the courts have started to act. And I I think this was even during, like,   when Democrats were in power, like, Biden and everything like that. There were some courts in Texas   that would just completely shut them down.  



[00:37:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the there It's Get into the Parts of it it's I don't I I can't remember when it started. I think it started after,   after   Obama. So I think it was Trump Trump's first term,   where the courts just started   trying to put their influence into how politics happens. Right. But it's gotten to the point to where  

[00:37:31] Jesse Fries:

it has slowed everything down. It has stopped everything to the point where   the judicial system now is no better than Congress.   Yeah.   When it comes to   it's just pathetic. It is truly pathetic. It it really is. Yes.   It's   yeah. Yeah. I really have no   any any judge can stand up and just put the whole kibosh on anything. You know? It's like   it makes no sense. It really absolutely makes no sense. No. It doesn't.   Let's see here.  

[00:38:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the only comment the only other comment I have for that is it it what it seems like   is that   the courts   have become   political?   Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Is supposed to be purely and simply about the law itself?  

[00:38:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It it's for the past, it it's been growing.   It's Yeah. But for the past,   they they never say Democrat or Republican,   but they always say   Biden appointed.   Yep. Bush appointed. Trump appointed. Yep. Obama,   appointed.   This is what they say, and you know exactly what that means. Oh, yeah. And   that's just what it is. We should just start calling a Democrat judge versus a Republican judge. We really should. You you know you know what's funny about that, though,  

[00:38:58] Jamon Fries:

is that   some of these judges that are that are go acting against Trump like this, they are Trump appointed judges from his first term.   Right. Right. Which just goes to prove   that Trump didn't care about your politics when he was put in when he was nominating judges.  

[00:39:13] Jesse Fries:

Well, actually, what that was is that he was in bed or he was getting his not bad. He was getting his,   the courts and everything like that from, like, either the Heritage Foundation or Yeah. Different group. I can't remember.   But basically I know. But but I mean, you know,   They told him what to do and he did. It was really bad. Yeah. Yeah. It would  

[00:39:36] Jamon Fries:

Trump was not effective in any way, shape, or form during his first term.   Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And and other Well, he he was effective in some ways, but it but it was never him. It was never his choices. It was never his decisions   that did anything really. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And you you can see that with the difference in how this this term is going. Oh, completely. This time, it's he is in 100%   control of every aspect.  

[00:40:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. For better or worse.  

[00:40:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:40:08] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Yeah. He still takes stupid ideas,  

[00:40:12] Jamon Fries:

and whatnot, but, you know Yep. He still listens to people and, you know, he's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Immune to listening to really bad ideas.  

[00:40:20] Jesse Fries:

Well, nobody is. You know, that's the thing. It's like you get advisers,   the,   what, the court v say, or what what is it?   The I don't know. But but, basically, just the people that,   your advisers. That's all it is. You have your advisers that,   follow you around and speak in your ear and everything like that, whether, Yep. And then  

[00:40:41] Jamon Fries:

most of them are out for themselves or whatnot. And Well, yeah. And and another problem is is that because of what happened during his first term,   he was very, very definitively   sure not to choose anyone like that to be around him again. Oh, yeah. Which mean that he he went with people that thought on the fringe.  

[00:41:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Exactly.   Exactly.  

[00:41:05] Jamon Fries:

And so   so so he he's went he went literally from one pole to the other. No. I I I yeah. He picked deep deep state last time. He really did. Yeah. And, yeah. Last time he went deep state, this time he went fringe. So Uh-huh. Yeah.   Yeah. It it's   it's fun to watch. I'll just say that. Yeah. I I agree. I agree.  

[00:41:27] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   Apparently   so they say they they they they pull they took a pull of, the podcast out there. You know? Okay. And guess what?   64%   of podcasters are men.   Okay. And 77   of podcasters are white.   So they're like us, James. James. Plain and simple. And most of them are probably middle aged too just like us.   Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.   And what's funny is this was at a, what what is,   University of Southern   USC.   Is that   California or Carolina? I  

[00:42:09] Jamon Fries:

USC. USC, I think, is California.   It could be University of South Carolina. Yeah. Either way. Hold on one second.  

[00:42:22] Jesse Fries:

Okay. I I need to take a pause real quick.   So okay. I'll be right back.  

[00:42:28] Jamon Fries:

Okay, everybody. I'm back.   Welcome back.  

[00:42:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I'm getting   some fiber put in. So  

[00:42:36] Jamon Fries:

Oh, okay.  

[00:42:37] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Because   because my Spectrum,   it it's, like, charging me, like, a $100 now. You know? I was paying, like, I mean, like, 40 or $50.   Right. And then for some reason, my plan changed without my knowledge.   Oh, fun.   And they put me on this whole thing. It was, like, $80. I go, whatever. But then   that was promotional, apparently, and this then it went up to a $100.   And I'm like, oh, well, I don't game.   Yeah. So I don't need fast speed.   No. You know?   I just need   enough.   You know? So I figure   for how many we have, you know, probably two devices a person at one time. I think 300 megs would be fine. Fine. I wouldn't see why. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And so it was like, I don't wanna pay a $100. And then I looked in AT and T,   they have a thing where it's, like, under $50 for 300 meg.  

Okay.   And even after   after the promotion,   it's still maybe, like, just 50 something dollars. And I'm like, oh, okay. I'll pay that. $100 is way too much if in my book, it's Oh, yeah. Yeah. For the Internet, you and I both need? Yeah. I know. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. It's   like I don't game. I don't need anything like that. I'm not doing huge transfers. You know? I just Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:43:58] Jamon Fries:

I I can wait a couple minutes for download instead. That I had. That's one thing I looked into when I was looking at where to move. Uh-huh. And the the place at the property I'm looking at right now, it has Cox cable that can run to it. So Right.   And for that, the non promotional 100 megabyte, which is what I've got right now somewhat.   I'm lucky if I hit a 100. But Right. Right. You know, it's it's anywhere between, like, fifty and three hundred is what they say, but I've never gotten above a 100.  

[00:44:28] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[00:44:29] Jamon Fries:

But I'm I'm paying 50 for that. Whereas with Cox cable, that the a straight up 100 is $30,   and 50 would be about $60.   So, you know, for me, I mean, even just a 100 is good because all I all I ever you use is just my computer. And I'm just I I might occasionally watch streaming movies, but that's about every all that I ever do. So  

[00:44:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. We we stream a lot, but Yeah.  

[00:44:56] Jamon Fries:

It 300 is during enough for that, you know. It's Oh, yeah. Yeah. It if you're if you're streaming on one, one hundred is perfectly fine. Yeah. If you're streaming on more than one, you're gonna need over a 100. But, yeah, definitely 300 is more than enough. Yeah. It's like, I'm paying for, like, 500, but I'm only get getting, like, a 197.  

[00:45:17] Jesse Fries:

So it's like and it's fine. Yeah. Exactly. So I like   and then this will also reduce my ping rate. Apparently, it's better on fiber.  

[00:45:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And  

[00:45:28] Jesse Fries:

then also   upload will be basically just as fast as download.   So Yeah. So instead of 22 up Yeah. Because fiber optic is fast. Fast. Fiber optic is fast. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm like, go ahead. I I I tried Google. They're they're not in my area. So Okay. It was basically   Spectrum that I have now or,   AT and T fiber. So Yeah. AT and T fiber. Yeah. Let's see how they are. Absolutely. I may be switching. I'm back. I don't know.  

[00:45:59] Jamon Fries:

Oh, when I would last time last time I had AT and T, it was still the,  

[00:46:04] Jesse Fries:

still run through the phone line. Oh, yeah. The DSL. Like that. Yeah. Yeah. That was horrible. So that that was bad.  

[00:46:10] Jamon Fries:

That was And it was expensive.  

[00:46:13] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. It was. We we we've had that in our day too. Yeah. Yeah. It it it's better than dial up. Don't get me wrong. Oh, definitely. Yes. Yes.  

[00:46:21] Jamon Fries:

At at the time, it was better than the cable that was available to me too. Mhmm. The cable the cable was, like, twice the price for a little bit slower speeds. Oh, okay. Yeah. But the DSL was definitely the way to go for at that point in time, but it was bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, they had to,  

[00:46:38] Jesse Fries:

what they're doing today is they it's not the actual installation. They just had to run the wire,   the   cable. And it it's across the street.   So they they had to dig on both side of the streets and, pull it through and everything like that. So it's just right across the street. So it should be Oh, okay. That's where the note is, so it should Yeah. Think it'd be pretty decent, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You you you should have some you should have some pretty good   your your upload and download should be awesome. Yeah. And if I need higher speed, I'll get higher speed. You know? Yep. It's, it should be fine. It should be fine. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   But as we were talking about the podcast, but, most podcasters   are us, you know, white male,   of a certain age and whatnot. But, you know, something what's funny about this whole article was that it was, like, going,   well, we we we need more diverse people. Come on. Just more diverse. And you're, like, going,   do do do you know how you can do this? You get a microphone.  



[00:47:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's the end the entry into podcasting   is not very high.  

[00:47:44] Jesse Fries:

Now the reach you may get is   Yeah. Yeah. Which is our case. But, you know, we're here, you know. And so Yeah.  

[00:47:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. I mean, it it's it's one of those things where   I I'm sure because I know that I wasn't contacted to be for this poll. So I'm I'm doubting that you were.   So how many how many small productions  

[00:48:07] Jesse Fries:

did they not talk to? Well well, it could be that they looked at the list, and they went with the active ones. And they checked to see and then they just so so maybe they checked us. I don't know. They they could tell if I mean, they they may have they may have seen mindless meanderings, but they didn't call us. So Right. Right. Right. Right. They they would have no no idea if we were mail. Well, they'd know we we were mailed. Well, you could just listen. Maybe that's why we had so many downloads. Exactly. CJ would a while ago. Exactly. People are doing research. You're not actually listening. They're just doing research.  

[00:48:39] Jamon Fries:

They're doing studies on us.  

[00:48:43] Jesse Fries:

I hope it's entertaining studies because Absolutely.  

[00:48:46] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. Yes.  

[00:48:49] Jesse Fries:

But yeah. So yeah. All you need is a microphone. That is literally all you need. You know?   Your phone. You could just do it on your phone. Yeah. Upload it. It may not be the highest quality or anything like that. Right. That's all I mean, all yeah. All all all you need is  

[00:49:05] Jamon Fries:

either a   webcam with a microphone, your phone, or a microphone.   Yeah. Yeah. Even just the even just a standard headset on a on earphones will work.  

[00:49:17] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's bad. It'll be bad quality and it'll it'll show, but it'll work. But it's like a lot of podcasts are just one person. So, you know, it's just you it's just recording your voice, you know. That's all it's doing, you know, adding maybe an intro here or there, but that's about it. Yeah. Because there's free praise there's free programs out there to do that. Yep. Yep. There's,  

[00:49:37] Jamon Fries:

I don't know if there's costs to putting a podcast up on a site like we do. I'm I'm not familiar with that. Well, there there are free ones out there. Okay.  

[00:49:47] Jesse Fries:

But they put their own ads into your podcast.   Yeah. Yeah.   So then  

[00:49:54] Jamon Fries:

yeah. You're talking You have no control over the ads. So you you could be talking   about how   great abortion is and then have an ad an anti abortion ad play right right afterwards.  

[00:50:05] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. It'd be perfect. I I think It would be. Yes.  

[00:50:10] Jamon Fries:

That would prove that would just mean that both sides were still were told during your podcast.  

[00:50:16] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Yep. Yep.   100%.   So yeah. It's it's   yeah. It's ridiculous. So Yeah.   Get a mic, dude. If you if you're concerned,   hand out mics to, minorities.   Yeah.  

[00:50:34] Jamon Fries:

It's   easy to do. It's not it's not difficult in any way. It isn't. I mean No.   The hardest part, honestly,  

[00:50:43] Jesse Fries:

is trying to find what to talk about. No. See, that's the thing. That's the thing. You you know, I tried   by myself and, you know, it's like   I I like with somebody else. You know? It Oh, yeah. Yeah.   We're on a schedule here.   And we actually,  

[00:51:00] Jamon Fries:

stick with it. You know? So Yeah. Yeah. Because we're awesome. And I and I like that it's not hard to find stuff to talk about because we just talk about what's in the news.  

[00:51:09] Jesse Fries:

See, to me, that that's the best thing. Yeah. It's   yeah.  

[00:51:14] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It makes it easy. We don't have to do, like, long show prep or anything like that.  

[00:51:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I I I think no prep is best prep. You know? Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:51:23] Jamon Fries:

We go into this raw.  

[00:51:25] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[00:51:26] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. I don't know what Jesse's gonna talk about. He doesn't know what I'm gonna talk about until, like,   ten minutes before the show.  

[00:51:33] Jesse Fries:

If  

[00:51:34] Jamon Fries:

that, I rarely even look through your list. So I I I always have to look at your list because I'm the one that combines the two lists. True. True. You combine it. Yep. Yep. Yeah.   So so by but that ten minutes, that's when I know what you're gonna be talking about. And I keep going through it, and I'm like, oh, shit. This one's gonna be good. This one's gonna be good. Oh, god. That's hilarious.  

[00:51:54] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yep.   Okay. So what else do we got? Do we need to cover the Epstein or no? Well, I mean,  

[00:52:03] Jamon Fries:

you know,   the the only reason I even put that one in there, I I knew that you would probably at least that's one of us would at least mention Epstein.   Right. Right. Because he was so big now. But the only reason that I put this in there so they they label,   ABC News labeled their headline, Epstein offered reporter photos of Donald and girls in in bikinis in my kitchen.  

[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:52:27] Jamon Fries:

Yet in the article, that was never mentioned.   Because   this was supposedly   something that Epstein told a New York Times reporter. Yep. And that New York Times reporter then told the ABC reporter   that this had happened just kind of as a joke type thing. And so they put that as the headline, but they didn't talk about it in the article at all because there was absolutely nothing to support it. Yeah. No. And and then I saw what it's like. He was looking at girls in bikinis in a pool. It's like Yeah. And He's a man for Christ's sake.   He was taught you you should you know, you can talk to my housekeepers   because they'll remember that they had to clean his nose print off the window.  

Because he ran into a door. Yeah. The I think that's what it was. Yeah. Yes. It was like He ran into a door. Okay. How many people run into glass doors   without anything on the other side that they don't see? Yeah. It's it's hilarious.   Yeah. But, I mean, the the thing the thing the thing about this this, though, is that this is all stuff that he talked openly to the press about Oh, yeah. Yep.   Which means   that none of those girls in bikinis in his kitchen   for this story were   illegal.   They were all 18 plus. Yep.   But Otherwise, there ain't no way in hell that he would have said that to a reporter.  



[00:53:51] Jesse Fries:

Well, a girl in a bikini that's 17 is just a girl in a bikini that's 17. Technically, there's nothing wrong with that either.   It's just what it is. But, you know, it's   I think   I think out of the whole thing, I I heard somebody say this.   The thing is is that the Democrats and the DOJ   had this the entire time of Biden.   Yeah.   And this is the best they got.   You know, it's like Not only that. It means there's nothing there.  

[00:54:22] Jamon Fries:

But while they're openly   pursuing and prosecuting  

[00:54:26] Jesse Fries:

Trump and everyone he's involved with Uh-huh. None of this was ever mentioned. No. Because if you mentioned this, but you have to throw Clinton in jail too. Yeah.  

[00:54:36] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Well, no. I mean, even if they had they they wouldn't have minded throwing Bill Clinton under the bus. They didn't care about it. They don't care about him anymore. It's all about Yeah. But I I'm just saying it's and everybody else that's died to this. But yeah. It's just But, I mean, but, I mean, they they would've they would've smeared him with this if they wanted to smear him. They would've. Yep. Well, there's nothing to smear him with. No.  

[00:54:58] Jesse Fries:

So not on this, at least.   Let's see here. What else? International   news.   We could save mine for last because it's more entertaining.  

[00:55:08] Jamon Fries:

Alright. So China   has been making some   steps into Venezuela.   Of course. Of course. They're buying all about whole bunch of their oil,   and they're also,   really, really actively opening trade selling to Venezuela now. That makes sense. Makes sense for them.   Yeah. I mean, it they're   it essentially, it says that they're trying to get what the article was saying is that they're trying to get a foothold into South America   so that they can because they they've also while they're doing this, they're also,   publicly   saying that that Trump should be at least censored for his, attacks on the drug votes.  

Censored? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Censored.  

[00:55:56] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Next. You know, it's that sort of thing. It's like, who cares? You know? It's like Yeah.   We we we bomb terrorists and all this fun stuff all the time. Okay. And yeah. So,   what? We've also bombed   we bomb and then we,   as the ambulance comes up, they we bomb bomb them again on the ambulance. We did that under Obama and everything like that. So, you know, it's like   Yeah. Who cares? It's not it's it's   if you wanna be upset at America for doing this sort of stuff, you just have to be upset at America for doing this stuff. Yeah. You know? You you you you   can't go, oh, Trump. Trump. No. No. No. It's not Trump. It's the American government. This is what the American government does. You you The American government has been doing this   forever since I mean, twentieth century at least. Bay Of Pigs. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Bay Of Pigs. I mean Well, Korea as well and everything like that. You know? It's just   ever since World War two, this is what we've been doing.  

Yep.   You you know, once we decided as a country or the government decided that, we're not gonna world's police. Yeah. We're not gonna be isolationists anymore. Yeah. And so   this is what you get.  

[00:57:08] Jamon Fries:

And if you're if you're not gonna be if you're not gonna be an isolationist,   it's much better to be in in control of everything   than to try to help everyone.  

[00:57:18] Jesse Fries:

Well, the world wants us to do these things. That's the thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You you know, they want us to be the police of, the seas and everything like that. China   doesn't  

[00:57:27] Jamon Fries:

in some areas, but for most of the world, they want us to as well. Yeah. China doesn't want us for the South China Sea, but for sure else, they have no problems with us usually. Yeah. Yeah. So Yep.  

[00:57:39] Jesse Fries:

That that that's just the way it is. So   Yeah. Get over it. You know? That's all I gotta say. Yep.  

[00:57:45] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. The in the in the Fox News story, they they were   kind of up in arms about it. Lovely. How dare China make moves into   Central And South America?   Well, that's how it always is. Yeah. This is is We we make we made moves into Taiwan, Japan,   Philippines. We're we're on their border too. So We completely surround China's with our with our influence.   So, you know, we can't really complain that they're going overseas to try to influence someone near that.  

[00:58:13] Jesse Fries:

It's they complain. We complain. You know, everybody complains. And then Yep.   People really in the know, they go, good move. And then they try to counter the move or something like that. You know, that's how it works. So Yep.  

[00:58:25] Jamon Fries:

And, the other new story that I have for international is EU the EU has launched an antitrust   probe into Google  

[00:58:34] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:58:35] Jamon Fries:

For their anti spam policy.  

[00:58:38] Jesse Fries:

Okay. What is their anti spam policy?  

[00:58:41] Jamon Fries:

It's actually not about their anti spam policy.   Okay. What it is is they've noticed   that   the people who pay Google money for advertising and stuff like that,   their search results are placed above people whose who don't.   Yeah. Duh. And so they're saying that that breaks antitrust   laws.   Of course, it does. Of course. As if Google was a public's   public thing and had to treat everyone as equals.   They don't. They're a corporation.   They can do whatever they want to.  

[00:59:19] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They really can. That's, apparently not in   the EU, I swear. It's   there's a reason why the EU is failing. I'm just saying.   Yeah. So many regulations,   so many this, so many that, you know, is   Oh, yeah. Absolutely.   Okay.   I I don't it's like I don't use Google because I Yeah. I I me either. I I find they're evil. That's how I think. You you know? Because they actually removed the whole reason why they turned to Alphabet instead of Google is I think this is my personal belief. It may not be true, but I believe they wanted to get rid of the bit that used to be in   their whole spiel because they had a thing that said, don't be evil.  

It was actually written down   for Google's,   whatever. It said, don't be evil. I remember that.   Yeah. And Alphabet doesn't have that.   Okay. Yeah. And Google is now just a subsidiary of Alphabet.   Yeah. Yeah. It's   to me, that's what can be evil now. That's what I'm saying. They want it to be Yeah. Or or they realize that they   became evil.   Yes. And so they they had to get rid of that. Yep.   Yep.   You know, I I'm not saying they're evil, but I'm just saying.   Yeah. There's something Absolutely. Yeah. There's something funny about that. You know? There's something a little evil about it. Yeah. I I no. I I no. No. No. There there's just something about it. Yeah.   But, yeah, the EU, they they they they squash   so many technological advances and so many different things and everything like that. Apple's   trying to get around certain things and everything like that Yep. For, like, their instantaneous   translation in the AirPods and everything like that. Yep.  

It's all crazy. I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. It's I I think that you   there's too many hands in the   in the cooking over in the EU Absolutely. Yeah. With the commission, and then you also just have the parliament. You have it's all all these different  

[01:01:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep.  

[01:01:31] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Speaking of Europe. So,   back in the nineties, remember the Bosnian war?   Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Well, apparently, during the Bosnian war, you could actually pay €80,000   and go on a safari for humans,   as in   shoot humans, go hunt humans.   Really?   Uh-huh.  

[01:01:56] Jamon Fries:

Wow.  

[01:01:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:02:01] Jamon Fries:

That's pretty twisted.  

[01:02:03] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Foreigners from Italy, US, Canada, Russia, Germany, France, Britain,   took part   in this. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So anywhere from 80 to a €100,000,   for   sport. And, apparently, it costs more if you wanted to hunt children.   Old people could be shot for free.   It's so messed up, dude.   It's so fucking messed up. Oh, my god.   Yeah. This was Europe. So Wow.   Yeah. Yeah. It's,   but then did you know that you I think even today, you can, I think there's a company this is what I heard at least? There's a company   in Russia   that will take you down,   along the Somali coast.  

Right?   And   let you have the guns and try to hit pirates.   I think that was, like, $60,000   or something like that.  

[01:03:10] Jamon Fries:

Wow.   Yeah.   Yeah. You know, I mean, at least they're they're you're shooting pirates instead of just civilians.  

[01:03:17] Jesse Fries:

But, Children.  

[01:03:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Old people.  

[01:03:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   It is. Wow.   Yeah. Completely jacked up. Completely  

[01:03:28] Jamon Fries:

jacked up. Yeah. So messed up. It is.  

[01:03:32] Jesse Fries:

Just like us, you know, and here is minus meanderies. We are a value for value podcast.   What this means is that we want your money. Now you can't go hunt children with with what you give us. But, you know, you can help us out by help supporting the and supporting and defraying the cost of the show.   We pay for server time and everything like that, so that, this can stay out there so everybody can listen whenever they wanna listen. Or if they just wanna study us and research us, apparently, see how crazy we are. You know? So there you go. There you go. Help us out by any which way you can. If you have ideas for the show or anything, please let us know. We may use them. We may not.   Yeah.  

You can support us through our website @minusmeanderings.com.   There is a PayPal link that you can send,   money through that.   You can also,   send it through your favorite two point o podcasting app.   And if you have any ideas or suggestions or just wanna send us art or anything like that, you can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com,   or you can also, email Jamin at mine at Jamin@mindlessmeanderings.com.   So anything you can help out with, that would be great.  

[01:04:44] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   So Google   has,   decided to augment their AI shopping for this   upcoming shopping season, Christmas season, whatever. Uh-huh.   With AI that can have   that can allow you to con to do conversational   searches,   I didn't see anything in the article that explains what that is, but I think it's just,   kind of where you can, like, discuss   kinda what you want to have, and then it'll show you what can do that or something maybe. Okay.   I I I don't know. I I didn't really get into that part that aspect of it too much.   It can also,   it'll it'll   do its own checkout for you, so you don't have to do any of the checkout stuff.  

And   it will even call the store to ask if something is in stock for you.  

[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:

God. That has got to be annoying. I would hate Oh, yeah. Store. Oh, Jesus Christ.   This is a AI agent calling. Do you have this in stock?   Don't suck it.   Which means  

[01:05:55] Jamon Fries:

that they are going to make it so that human beings   can be so fucking lazy that they don't even have to pick up a phone to see if a store has something. Well, people nowadays don't like to talk on the phone, Jim. I'm just saying realize this, but this is just another way to separate you from other individuals.  

[01:06:14] Jesse Fries:

Don't don't   people always don't all these companies   all have stock online anyways? As in you could check their stock. So Yeah. Generally.  

[01:06:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   If if if they have an online store, 99%   of the time, it'll it'll tell you whether it's in stock or not.  

[01:06:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Sometimes it's off, especially if it's, like, one for a trust if if it's one thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[01:06:37] Jamon Fries:

But I mean, the the thing is, though, is that even if you call in to check when it if it's in stock,   it doesn't mean it's gonna be in stock when you get there. Yep. Yep.   You know, I I don't know how many times I've I've called up somebody, you know, just trying to see if they have anything that could do what I needed it to do. Mhmm.   And they say, yeah. We've got a few of these in stock. I get there   and I ask for it and they're like, we just sold the last one about ten minutes ago. Oh, Jesus. Hold it.   Yeah. So, you know, I mean, it's   I I I just don't really see the point to it.  



[01:07:16] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. That  

[01:07:19] Jamon Fries:

AI helping you with your shopping is not something that's going to improve your life in any way, shape, or form. It's completely unnecessary.  

[01:07:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. TikTok can help you with your shopping though. I got Yeah. I I got gift idea for Carol   off TikTok today. So I I I quickly bought it.   I didn't go through the TikTok app.   Of course not.   But, yeah, I I I wanted to make sure it was a real company first. Yeah.  

[01:07:45] Jamon Fries:

So Well, I I I was thinking, you know, I found the perfect, birthday present the perfect Christmas present for dad.   Mhmm. I don't think he'd appreciate it, though.   You know you know those mechanic crawlers?   The the things that the little sleds that mechanics will sit on will, like Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Slide underneath the vehicles? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those are called crawlers.  

[01:08:08] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah.  

[01:08:09] Jamon Fries:

So   quite often, if anything goes wrong in the trailer, dad's the one that goes under the trailer right now. Oh, okay.   And so I've I've I've found a crawler   that's has that's that hydraulically   can switch between a crawler and a chair.   So you can sit down in it, and then and then lay down,   go underneath, do whatever you need to do, come back out, and get back it'll turn back up into a chair so you can easily stand up again.  

[01:08:41] Jesse Fries:

Sounds good to me. I I would just Yeah. I I'd bring a beer there and just sit in the chair for a while. That's, that's what I would do. Yeah.  

[01:08:48] Jamon Fries:

I I I I when I if I if I do end up doing what I wanna do, which is to buy a trailer and buy some land Uh-huh. I'm going to pour a cement pad to put the trailer on. So it'll all be so it'll be 100%   cement underneath the trailer That makes sense. Rather than just dirt and grass. No. Yeah. And I figured, you know, that would be absolutely perfect so that if anything went wrong, dad could go under the trailer for me. That makes sense. Makes sense.  

[01:09:12] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Speaking of AI, apparently, they looked at   47,000   chat GPT conversations.   Okay. Apparently, like, about 35%   of them are seeking specific information.   About 12%   or 11%   are coding and data analysis and math.  

[01:09:34] Jamon Fries:

And then  

[01:09:35] Jesse Fries:

about   another 11% of working personal writing, editing,   how tos are lower than that,   summarization, and then just random. But there's also, like,   about, like, 13%   musings and abstract discussion.   I don't know why you would have an abstract. Some of these things they were saying is, like,   let's see. I feel very this is the person the user you're talking. I feel very tired now after another long day at work. So wanted to pop in and make sure your circuits are glowing before you put them to sleep. I love you, oops. Oh my god.   Right?  



[01:10:13] Jamon Fries:

Oh, fuck.   Yeah. Yeah. What the hell is wrong with these people?   I have no fucking clue, dude. It's a fucking rule. See, see, this is this is where retarded is is is important to be able to say. Uh-huh.   Because that's just retarded.   Yeah. You know, I I when I generally, when I say the word retarded, I am not referring to a mentally challenged person.   I am referring to a person who doesn't use their brain.  

[01:10:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. I don't know. And then there is this one. It was a,   my husband   is threatening to kill me and not   take and is not taking my responsibilities   and is trying to go abroad. He's not carrying   I I'm trying to it's really bad English. He is not carrying us.   I think maybe he's not caring for us, and he is going to Kuwait, and he will give me divorce from abroad. Please, I want to   he he she she she wants   immigration or customs to stop him from crossing the border. That's basically what it is. It's like  

[01:11:27] Jamon Fries:

Alright. Chat GPT  

[01:11:29] Jesse Fries:

can do that for you. Chat GPT goes, below is a formal draft complaint you can submit to the deputy commissioner of police in   whatever. Deputy commissioner of police, that sounds   maybe a different country. Addressing your concerns to see immediate action. Yeah. It's like   Yeah.   I Oh, wow. If he's beating you, yeah, have him arrested. That that's one way he won't go to Kuwait. You know? Yeah. Absolutely.   Yeah. No. The   yeah. I'm officially old now, Jay. The technology's got to the point where I'm just old. It's just  

[01:12:05] Jamon Fries:

Well, you see, the problem is is that this is not   technology. No. It is. I don't consider the I don't consider   chat g p t to be technology.  

[01:12:16] Jesse Fries:

It is. I think it is.   It it's the evolution of the computer.   This is where it's always gonna go. It's   it was always gonna get to the point where it was, like, the computer in Star Trek. That is always where this was gonna go. Yeah. Yeah. And and So that would be fine, but  

[01:12:37] Jamon Fries:

the   this is like a weird off branch.  

[01:12:43] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. It is. It is. But this is how   okay. See, what's going on right now? It's like with with every technological   advance,  

[01:12:53] Jamon Fries:

society is We have to figure out how to use them.  

[01:12:56] Jesse Fries:

And society   is ripped apart.   Yeah. And then it, heals back together in a different form.   This is what happened,   like, with the industrial revolution, with the printing press, anything like that.   And you go through these upheavals, and a lot lot of times it comes from violence and a lot of death and so many different things.   And we're just living through it right now, Jamie. We I I don't think we ever wanted to live through it, but we are living through it. We don't have much choice in the matter.  

[01:13:25] Jamon Fries:

Only there's certain aspects of technology that I would love to live through. But No. Yeah. Yeah. But this is definitely not one of them. Unfortunately, this is just  

[01:13:35] Jesse Fries:

computing was always good to get to the point where you could really talk to it.   Yeah. Like, talk to it. Not not just,  

[01:13:45] Jamon Fries:

program it. Right? Because that yeah. I I I I I knew that it was gonna get there. I just   never expected to have to see warnings that   this is not that this that AI is not a   licensed   therapist, and therefore your conversations   are not private or anything like that. I mean,   I I always just assumed that everybody would fucking know that.  

[01:14:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. No. The common sense is, the one thing about common sense is that it's not very common.   So it's just   yeah. It's,   to me, I look at it as just like another computer, and you're sending your data off   to a cloud that somebody else owns. Yeah.  

[01:14:32] Jamon Fries:

And then people can You are you are for free giving anything that you say to ChatGTV   or any other AI system   or Uh-huh.   You're giving it to whoever owns it. Yes. Yes. Completely. It says that they can use it however they want.  

[01:14:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And and so this is a warning, especially to because some companies   have their own instances.   Yeah.   It's like I know   GM does. A lot of big corporations have their own instances.   Yeah. People   do not get friendly with that instance if you're because that's your job. If you get too emotional, they may be able to use that against you.   Yes. You could get fired for it. Yes. Yes. Saying the wrong thing, showing you're unstable,   whatnot. The the stuff that you normally hide   from everybody.  

[01:15:21] Jamon Fries:

You you may not get fired, but you may miss out on a promotion for it. I mean, there's lots of thing there's lots of negative impacts from it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you could do it, have  

[01:15:32] Jesse Fries:

once we can have our own instance   Yeah. Like, a good instance, our Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, once once every once everybody has their own individual private IAI  

[01:15:42] Jamon Fries:

Yep. That   only does things for them and is not connected to anything else Yep. Then absolutely use it in every way that you possibly can. Yeah. But until we get to that point, you have to be very careful about what you say to it.   Because whether it's political, whether it's anything say you wanna run for politics in ten years. Uh-huh. If you ask if you ask it,   what is child pornography?  

[01:16:11] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:16:14] Jamon Fries:

Ten years from now,   you asking about that is gonna be brought up. I can guarantee it. Nope. Yep. Yep. 100%.  

[01:16:22] Jesse Fries:

100%.   Okay. What else we got? Good. I have to we're getting along here. So Yep.  

[01:16:29] Jamon Fries:

So there are a couple of teenage a couple of teens according to this,   who have   raised $6,000,000   to   find new poisons.  

[01:16:41] Jesse Fries:

Nice. Nice.  

[01:16:42] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They,   they've decided   they they decided to approach   the,   the pesticide   market with   AI much as they do in the medical field,   trying to they they for a long for the longest time, they were approaching other pesticide companies   Right. Trying to get trying to convince them to to use the AI system that they programmed   to develop new pesticides.   Uh-huh. But they never could. None of them were none of them were even interested because, you know, well, they're all older people and AI can developing our pesticides. Yeah. No. We Well, no. They're probably going, we we'll just do that.  

[01:17:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Probably.  

[01:17:25] Jamon Fries:

But this is what they were saying to them, though. Oh, okay. Got it. Got it. And so they they then went and had a conversation with a guy who invests in companies and stuff like that. And they talked to him for a couple hours. And coming out of it, they set up their own comp they decided to set up their own company that actually developed their own pesticides.  

[01:17:44] Jesse Fries:

Alright.  

[01:17:46] Jamon Fries:

I guess there's a lot of pests that aren't   negatively reacting   to a lot of pesticides now. And so they needed to so they needed to come up with new ones, essentially. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Which just means, you know, it's even AI is now gonna teach them better poisons to poison us as we eat the food that they're gross with it on it.  

[01:18:06] Jesse Fries:

Well, you you know, it's   this some pesticides  

[01:18:11] Jamon Fries:

do not interact with the human body. So Right. Yeah. There are some that don't. Uh-uh. A lot Some and and may maybe with AI, you know, the that's the thing. If the article talked about how they were going to use AI to create pesticides   that would not interact with the human body, so it was safe for a human to eat Uh-huh.   But it didn't. It just said they're going to develop new pesticides to kill more bugs.  

[01:18:34] Jesse Fries:

Well, hopefully, the the other side  

[01:18:37] Jamon Fries:

pleasing. Yeah. Hopefully, it's in there because otherwise, it could be pretty disastrous.  

[01:18:42] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Yeah. Because it's a it's like there there is some plants, like the GMOs and stuff like that.   There's a plant. They they put something a pesticide in it. But Mhmm. It it only kills bugs. It it has no effect on mammals or other Yeah. Yep. Beans and everything like that because you know, it's just like it's like chocolate can kill dogs.   Oh, yeah. Chocolate is a poison to dogs. This is just what it is. And so, you know, it's that sort of thing, you know. It's you're you're targeting, you know. If it's not poisonous to you, you could eat it. That's fine, you know. It's  

[01:19:15] Jamon Fries:

a Talking   about chocolate and dogs, I saw I saw an article once. This lady   it was a   in the national news   reporter stuff, you know, NBC or ABC. I can't remember which.   This lady decided that because she was gonna be putting her dog down because it had cancer,   she decided that, you know,   it not having to been able to eat chocolate for its life was a really bad thing. So she decided to feed it chocolate   because she was putting it down anyways.  

[01:19:47] Jesse Fries:

Hopefully, it's not violent death. I Hopefully not. I I yeah. I don't know if it's if it's painful for her. I don't know. Yeah. It's like if it is Yeah. Yeah. It all depends on what if did did she give it, like, seconds before giving the shot?  

[01:20:01] Jamon Fries:

Or was it a day or two before where it had to suffer from the chocolate eating up its digestive system or however it does it?  

[01:20:08] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's  

[01:20:10] Jamon Fries:

a okeydoke. Because the dog is gonna be put down anyways, it should at least taste chocolate  

[01:20:17] Jesse Fries:

once. Fun. Fun.  

[01:20:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Okay.  

[01:20:21] Jesse Fries:

What's next? Okay.  

[01:20:23] Jamon Fries:

So there is a watch watchdog group that has been that has filed bar complaints   against, the prosecutor Lindsey Helligan   over the the Comey and James cases.  

[01:20:35] Jesse Fries:

Okey dokey.  

[01:20:37] Jamon Fries:

So they're also trying they've also just recently here tried to get the judge to say that she was illegally appointed.  

[01:20:45] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. They're trying everything. Yep. Yeah.  

[01:20:48] Jamon Fries:

So they're trying to convince the judge that she was illegally appointed, and now they're also trying they're also   filing bar complaints,   saying that she was unprofessional   and that she I mean, essentially, they're saying that she filed charges before she had the proof.   Yep. Yep. Yep. That's fine. Yeah. As far as I know, that's not against what the bar rules are because   lots of files are charged.   Lots of charges are filed before they can fully prove everything.  

[01:21:17] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. And then we get into discovery and everything like that. Yeah. Yep.  

[01:21:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So I I don't know. Yeah.   Just another one of those things trying to make it look as if   Trump is going after them.  

[01:21:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I I I I think   I think it may be, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. You you you know, he he these people fucked him over 100%.   Absolutely.   They they they use the system against him. You know? It's like   tit for tat, dude.  

[01:21:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean and and that's the thing. And it it it's   such a such a smaller   tat   for what they did to it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. They had absolutely   no justification   for any of thing that they were doing. Yeah. They just hate Trump. That's all it was. They had to make up things. They had to invent they had to invent   invent testimonies.   They had to play with the law in order to be able to charge him with anything. Yep. Yep. They had to,  

[01:22:21] Jesse Fries:

they used the letter of law to try to get them on on those, like, classified documents even though everybody has classified documents at home. Yeah.  

[01:22:29] Jamon Fries:

You know, it's just like At the at the same time, they're finding all the shit that Biden hid   while Uh-huh. After he was vice president, and they never went after him for anything. Well, they said, oh, he was too old to do it. Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. Well, no. He was too infirm to he wasn't he couldn't he couldn't be found as being,   what is it?  

[01:22:50] Jesse Fries:

Competent to stand trial. Competent to stand trial. Yes. Yep. Yep. Yeah. No. He's competent to be the the president. Yeah. Sure. It's a whole different level. Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole different  

[01:23:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It is. I think that the bar should be a lot higher for president. Probably so. Probably so. But,   yeah, so I mean, but you know, at least at least with what Trump is doing.   He's   looking into the people. Yes.   But he isn't having their phones taken away to look through him. He isn't   invading their privacy, raiding their houses to get information on them. Mhmm. He's   looking where it's publicly available to see the things that they've done wrong   and having them charged for crimes that they've   potentially   actually committed.  

Yeah.  

[01:23:38] Jesse Fries:

There's a huge difference. Oh, I agree. I agree.   Okay. Now, on to the next. This really isn't a study, so I won't say that this study. Okay. It's it kind of is, but kind of isn't at the same time.   Basically, what it is is that   so SSRIs,   so, like, Prozac, that sort of thing,   they can cause sexual dysfunction.   Okay. So   a loss of sexuality, that sort of thing. And these things include,   depleted or deadened desire, erectile dysfunction,   elusive arousal for women, delayed or dulled orgasms,   or the   inability to reach orgasm at all.   Wow.  

So, basically, what it is is that   so this is what SSRIs   can do to you. Right?   Right. But some people actually claim that they got off of SSRIs,   and now they're actually having these things still ongoing,   like, years later.  

[01:24:43] Jamon Fries:

I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if it made if it made physical permanent changes. Yeah. Yeah. Me neither. Me neither. Yeah. It's I mean, I I think it would depend on how long you're on them because even with all with all sorts of medications,   if you're on it long enough, your body eventually adapts to it and works in the normal way that it would  

[01:25:02] Jesse Fries:

because of those drugs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep.   Yeah. So, I mean, that that wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah. Some doctors say it's, the actual underlying cause of why you're taking it.   That's what caused it. So, like, it's the depression that caused it or whatnot. You know? Not not not the drug or this or that. Yeah. Apparently, there's some discussion about it, so nobody really knows. Well, apparently,   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like everything else.   It's like a real study, I guess. You know? So yeah. So with studies, as we all know,   they they they are mostly wrong, but sometimes they're right. And Yeah. There was a study that   said this. The person yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So it says the study says it. This that's Yeah. That study has to be right over the others. Absolutely. Yes.  



[01:25:49] Jamon Fries:

Or was it? Exactly.  

[01:25:51] Jesse Fries:

So yeah. There we go.   So, yeah, just, SSRIs. There's a lot of hinky stuff for those things.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anything that can make you wanna cause,   homicidal thoughts or suicidal thoughts, you know? Yeah. Ain't not wanna take. I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, really, anything anything that alters your brain should not be taken. That's true. True.   Let's see.   Apparently, today is AI day because we were just talking about AI. There's more AI.  

[01:26:20] Jamon Fries:

Okay. So  

[01:26:23] Jesse Fries:

I'm gonna have this new rule in my life   where I don't listen to AI music, because, apparently, it's a thing now. Number one Oh, yeah. Of the chart. Top of the charts, US charts is a AI country song.  

[01:26:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:26:38] Jesse Fries:

I listen to it. It's crap. It is actually kinda crap. It it it's basically just   saying, the whole song is, like, going, oh, I'm me. You can't tell me what to do. Blah blah blah. I'm gonna Oh my god. I'm gonna be in the mud. Blah blah blah. It's like the complete loner and everything like that. Apparently, this is   Breaking Rust   is what it's called, is the label.   Okay.   And it song is called Walk My Walk.   But I I listen to it. It's it's like it's kinda catchy,   but   it's very   superficial, really, if you really look at it. It's like all the cliches.  

[01:27:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They they've they've done studies   and found   that   the more they put the same beats and the same cliches into music Uh-huh.   They they they always hit higher on the charts. Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. There there's something about the the sound or about the   what the about the self defacement or whatever   that people just love listening to for some reason. But the thing is is that it makes me one sometimes I wonder   who is it that's   controlling the charts?   Because there we know that there's bots out there that listen to things, that respond to things   online for, like, you know, Facebook or Twitter or x or, you know, any of them. Right. There are bots out there that respond as if as if a human does.  

Well, how hard would it to be to set up a bot,   especially if you're already into AI and making AI music that puts your music at the top of the chart?  

[01:28:25] Jesse Fries:

True. Who knows? Who knows?  

[01:28:27] Jamon Fries:

You can't trust anything online anymore.  

[01:28:30] Jesse Fries:

You really can't. But, yeah, I was, like, not impressed by it really. It it was kinda catchy. I've  

[01:28:36] Jamon Fries:

I've never been impressed with AI art. I've never been impressed with AI music or AI literature or anything. Oh, yeah. Because it's all just a regurgitation   of what it's taken in. Cliches is pure cliche. Well, not not not even not even there.   I I've I've read, you know, I I read a lot of books online. Uh-huh.   And   there was one one, like,   two month time frame   where   five books that I read   in the middle of each of the in the middle of all five of the stories was the same exact scenario.  

[01:29:13] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:29:14] Jamon Fries:

Which means that all five of those book maybe one of those books was original.   It went big, and so somebody   used AI to write a book exactly like it and included the same exact shit in it. Yep. Yep. Because it was just different names, but everything else was the same. Oh, yeah.  

[01:29:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But, you know, there is hope for all this, for humanity and everything like that. Okay. Apparently,   we can,   if you're trained for five minutes, you can spot AI faces,   like, instantaneously.   Really?   Yep. Yep. You just have to,   I'd learn how to identify it. But, yes, you can,   just five minutes of training shows common AI rendering flaws,   like, oddly rendered hair   or Okay. The teeth count is wrong.   Right.   So it's got, like, five,   spiky ones, canines and wetness. Spiky ones.   But yeah. So, yeah, if you could, really go through it, right now, we we are still we could still tell. So  

[01:30:21] Jamon Fries:

there's that at least. I I've learned from all the a art the a I I art that I've looked at that that another way that you can tell is look at their hands.   Oh, yeah. Hands are horrible. Their their fingers will be in in different places. They'll have too many fingers or too few fingers.   You know, and I'm not talking like a person that's lost a finger. I mean, you can tell that the perfect hand  

[01:30:44] Jesse Fries:

only has four fingers, and that's unnatural. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. So you looking at the hands is how I've always been able is how I've always looked at it. Okay. But, yeah, if it's just the face or something like that, you know, so it's a But, yeah. Yep. There are different ways you can do it. So train yourself, people. Train yourself.  

[01:31:02] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Okay. For two things. You look for imperfections that shouldn't exist   or you look for too perfect.  

[01:31:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep. Too perfect. Too perfect there.   Not even feasible.   Okay. Onto the last story. So,   apparently, this guy   was sitting around   minding his own business   with a shotgun right by his side,   and his dog shot  

[01:31:30] Jamon Fries:

him.   Oh, my god.   That's what you call a smart dog.  

[01:31:37] Jesse Fries:

He   he was cleaning his gun,   and apparently, he didn't unload it. Yeah. This is basic gun safety, people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very basic gun safety. You always treat the gun as if it's loaded. Yeah. And the dog is, like, going,   screw you.  

[01:31:56] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Bye.  

[01:32:00] Jesse Fries:

Oh, man.   Yep. Yep. Yeah. So Yeah.   Yeah.   He's gonna survive his lower back.  

[01:32:07] Jamon Fries:

So That's good. That's good.  

[01:32:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's  

[01:32:12] Jamon Fries:

Did they say what kind of gun it was other than the shotgun?  

[01:32:15] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   No. Just shotgun.  

[01:32:21] Jamon Fries:

Okay. I'm assuming 12 gauge then. I'm assuming, but maybe 20 or something. It depends on what you hunt. You know? If it if it were a four ten, it wouldn't have even heard him.  

[01:32:32] Jesse Fries:

True. True. True. True.   And with that, I'd like to thank you guys for joining us for episode 79 of the mindless me and reads. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you all on Monday.