No great extinction? The Left still thinking that violence is the answer? Do they have anything in common? Let's find out!!
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- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:01) Late Start
(00:01:22) Trump at the UN: Teleprompter off, speech goes long
(00:02:52) Government shutdown brinkmanship
(00:08:04) Union strikes, back pay, and labor economics
(00:09:41) From politics to pop culture: Kimmel’s return and ratings
(00:12:01) Sports kerfuffle: Mets announcer vs. Cubs player’s funeral
(00:15:06) Dallas ICE shooting, rhetoric, and policy vs. law
(00:31:12) Secret Service busts SIM farms near the UN
(00:34:13) International hacks: UK cyberattack and quick blame on Russia
(00:36:29) Denmark’s burqa ban and a debate over veils
(00:41:56) Quick break, then on to business news
(00:42:26) Value-for-value spiel and live show housekeeping
(00:44:11) Big Tech and speech: YouTube reinstatements and censorship
(00:57:14) Courtroom drama: Ryan Routh’s verdict and self-harm incident
(00:57:53) All-seeing satellites and the privacy nightmare
(01:01:40) Extinction alarm checked: New data on species loss
(01:04:58) CFL quirks: The single point for a missed field goal
(01:08:34) Sign-off
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Jesse Fries:
Okay. We started three minutes late, David. Let's just blame you. I'm sorry. Yeah. What am I gonna get? That's all on me. Good afternoon, everybody. It is Thursday, September 25, and we are live with episode number 65 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries, and, you know, I really got nothing today.
[00:00:47] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries, and, yeah, I I I, got a little distracted reading a book and forgot what time it was.
[00:00:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So we're like three minutes late. Four yeah. Three minutes late. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 01:00, Jamie. 01:00.
[00:01:03] Jamon Fries:
I know. I know. I didn't even thought about it. I'm like, okay. I'm gonna read for half an hour, then I'm gonna go make breakfast, and I'll be ready for the show. But I didn't make breakfast, and I wasn't ready for the show.
[00:01:17] Jesse Fries:
What can you do? What can you do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it doesn't always go as planned, you know, kinda like Trump's visit to the UN. You know? That Yeah. Yeah. That that was,
[00:01:31] Jamon Fries:
interesting.
[00:01:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although,
[00:01:35] Jamon Fries:
I I from what I've heard, some of the scuttlebutt about conversations that staff was having, it kinda went as planned.
[00:01:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've heard those rumors too where they tried to sabotage or they did sabotage Trump, and everything like that, like, turning off the escalate, escalator. Yeah. Turning off the prompter. But then Yep. See, the problem is is when you turn the prompter off on Trump, he's just gonna spout.
[00:02:04] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. I mean, it ended up taking a fifteen minute speech to a fifty five minute speech. Uh-huh. Yeah. And he just trashed the UN up one side. Oh, yeah. Big time.
[00:02:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. He said your countries are going to hell. Yeah. No. It maybe that's what they wanted, but, you know, it it's it was just off the cuff. That was, that's a normal Trump. He he does the strangest things when he's off the cuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But, yeah. So I don't think they that really worked out for them very much. So it it's kinda like how the Democrat things aren't really working out for the Democrats right now when it comes to negotiating the shutdown. Yeah. Yep. Because they wanted the shutdown to be, like, this whole big thing where it's like, they go, well, we we're not gonna have a clean bill. We're gonna make sure that we get what we want and everything like that. Right.
And then Trump just said, well, if that happens, we'll just fire everybody if it shuts down. It doesn't matter. We'll just fire the people we don't need. Like, not not a temporary thing, not anything like that. Just fire them.
[00:03:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. After all, if if if they can if if the government can shut down without them, do we really need them?
[00:03:28] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. I I think it's hilarious. You you know, it I I think it's I think it's good bluff. I wonder if you'd actually do it, but it's because, really, the Democrats don't wanna be seen as the one causing this, but they are the ones causing it. Trump taking advantage of it, that would just be Trump taking advantage of the situation. So Oh, yeah. Big time.
[00:03:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It it I've always found it amusing how the the party that's not in power will hold the budget hostage
[00:04:03] Jesse Fries:
to get stuff that they want in. Well, it's not even the budget. It's just the
[00:04:07] Jamon Fries:
deficit, you know. Well, no. No. No. I I know that. But I mean, just just it it's always been they own they they generally the biggest place that they do this is in the budget. Right. You know, you don't see it when they're talking about individual laws
[00:04:23] Jesse Fries:
as much. Right. But they do it a little bit. You know, they try to get their little bit of pork into it. Right. Right. Right. But budget bills are the big ones for this, and it always happens. Yeah. And it doesn't matter who's It's almost every year that you hear that the government is gonna shut down. No. Usually not. Lately, it's been about two to three times a year, actually. It's been Yeah. Yeah. Constant. It's like, just stop it. I I really I thought the big, beautiful build, that's what Trump when he was, like, selling it. I don't think it was actually written in there. But as he was selling it before it was written, I I think that's what he wanted to do is to stop this crap. But Oh, yeah. Big time. Apparently, they wanted to keep this crap going in commerce.
[00:05:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, that is the way the congress works. Just just like they give they give everyone else the power to create laws and rules. Mhmm. This is the one thing that they dead set are gonna hold on to, making sure that they can give money to their people.
[00:05:22] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's stupid. And some of it isn't even, like, money. Some of it's just random crap that you don't even need. You know? It's I forgot to actually put it in what some of the stuff that they were wanting, but it's pathetic. It's really it's it's it's not even tied to the budget. They just want all this and that and everything like that. And Mhmm. So it's
[00:05:46] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it's it's you know, it's it reminds me of a long time ago, the bridge To nowhere.
[00:05:53] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Oh, yeah. I don't know how many are familiar with that.
[00:05:58] Jamon Fries:
I I can't remember exactly where it was going. Where where but just somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, they decided to build a bridge and have the government paid for paper. I think it was Alaska. They could have been.
[00:06:11] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:06:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I'm not sure exactly where it was, but it it led nowhere. There was it wasn't even going to be attached to a road on the other side of the bridge.
[00:06:20] Jesse Fries:
Right. Yeah. No. Exactly. It was just, let's spend some money. Yeah. It's Yeah. It's just crazy. It really is crazy. It's Yep. They need to do something about this. Let let let's do the balanced budget amendment. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I I I I'm I am not for just letting these people spend as much as they want. I am not for that. No. No. So let's just do a balanced budget. You know? Let's keep let's get that going because we bring enough money. Amendment
[00:06:47] Jamon Fries:
that guarantees that that that rules that there has to be a balance. But Right? Yeah. You you know, you of course, you have to have some
[00:06:55] Jesse Fries:
caveats for it, like, time of war and whatnot. But, you know Right. Yeah. But yeah. It it's otherwise, we keep hearing this constantly, and all we do is if you have friends in that work for any department of the federal government, they go, oh my god. I'm gonna be without a paycheck. You know? They shut it down and blah blah blah.
[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:
You know? Well, the the thing the thing that I absolutely hate about that argument is that, yes, you may not get your check this month. Next month, you're getting double check.
[00:07:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Either way to me, it's just even if not, it's like, who cares? I I Yeah. You work for us. You know, that that's not my that's not my Yeah. Exactly. It's
[00:07:38] Jamon Fries:
Exactly.
[00:07:39] Jesse Fries:
And, you know, that's that's fine. You can be upset about it, but please stop bitching because it constantly happens, and it's both parties' fault. But you you generally, whoever you are, you just blame the one side, and you don't blame your own side. So, you know, it's just like, wah wah wah. And it's just really annoying. They just need to stop it. You know,
[00:07:59] Jamon Fries:
just completely forgetting about government in one aspect that that whole, I'm not gonna get paid this month. Right. That is what has always confused me about unions. Because when a union goes on strike, the employees get nothing. They get, like, $30 a day or something like that. And they don't get back pay on when they go on strike.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
No. They don't. They don't. But you see the bonus time that they're on strike, their families are hurting very bad. Yeah. Usually, they have a bonus, though. So Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like with GM, they always have a signing bonus, like 5 to $7,000 signing bonus. Right. So it's, yeah. It's, very common. So
[00:08:46] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That but that's that's the one place that I've always had questions about unions with, you know. No. Yeah. I I completely understand. The the the strike because I mean, it's not it's not like they're even necessarily striking because of something that they don't like going on in their company.
[00:09:05] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:09:06] Jamon Fries:
You know, I've I've heard of many it's like I I was talking to one teamster when I was when I was an over the road truck driver. And he was and I was like, so, you know, situation looks pretty tough for you guys. You gonna be going on strike anytime soon? He's like, no. It's not our turn yet.
[00:09:25] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:09:26] Jamon Fries:
Which means that another trucking company has to go on strike first, and then there's another one, and then they get two. Yeah. But they've it it's a schedule set up so that there's almost always someone on strike.
[00:09:39] Jesse Fries:
It kinda does seem that way. It kinda does seem that way. Yeah. Mhmm.
[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:
But, anyway, it's back to politics.
[00:09:48] Jesse Fries:
Well, actually, that's really about all we got for politics right now. So, yeah, it's a Okay. Unless we wanna throw some of the national news in there. Yeah. We could do that. Yeah. Like Jimmy Kimmel, you know, he's back. Yep. Yep. So and he did his whole little shtick on Tuesday. And there's just a bunch of whining apology. Yeah. There was no apology. No. There wasn't. He just said, yeah. Well, it's Trump's fault. You know, basically. Yeah. You you know, it's but, you know, Sinclair and, what's the other one? Nexstar or something like that? Yes. They're still not showing the stuff. So Oh, yeah. That's a lot of markets not, watching the show. Big markets too. Yep. Yep. And so Kimmel got, like, four times his normal audience for his return.
Mhmm. So I wonder what that I wonder what it's back to now. Probably back to the horrible ratings it was. Probably. Yeah. Especially in the key demographic. So
[00:10:49] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And from from what I've heard, he's finding it they're finding it very difficult to sell advertising for his time slots. Yeah. I bet. I bet. They they have to charge a lot less for advertising on his time slots than they do for other times. Well, it's
[00:11:10] Jesse Fries:
all these people I I really don't understand. The the the left really thought that they could just get away with this and that everybody would be okay with it. They really thought the middle would just go along with them and say, oh, you're right because you're the you're the most intelligent on the left, you know, and everything like that. You you know? And, really, that's what the left thinks. They go, oh, we have all the college educated people. So we're the smartest, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And everything like that. And so I I I really don't think they can comprehend that the nation has kinda turned against them a little bit, you know, on this one. You know? It's Yeah. The the large majority I mean, it it is definitely the majority have turned against them by now. Yeah. Yeah. It it it's just nobody wants to hear it.
Yeah. And and it's not it's not just Kimmel. Apparently, the announcer for the Mets
[00:12:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:12:07] Jesse Fries:
He there there's a Mets player, who is really, he he he was friends with Charlie Kirk. Right? He was actually friends with Charlie Kirk, and Charlie Kirk would actually,
[00:12:22] Jamon Fries:
message him or actually Cubs. No. It was the Cubs. Yeah. The Cubs. Yeah. He he went he he he skipped a game or two in order to go to the, to the,
[00:12:33] Jesse Fries:
memorial. Right. Right. But it was Yeah. The Mets announcer who dissed him and said that he there's no way he should have done that, that he should Uh-huh. Apologize for going to Kirk's funeral. You you know, it's I I just don't Yeah. I just don't get it. Maybe I have that a little bit wrong, but, you know, it it's the the fans are boycott the Mets fans are boycotting the team and refunding tickets. And this is until Gary Cohen, that's the guy, publicly apologizes for criticizing Cubs player, Matt Shaw for missing a game due to attending Charlie Kirk's memorial. Nice.
Apparently, Cohen, he he he skipped a game himself for the death of his pet. But a guy's friend Yeah. You you you you know, it's like, what the hell is this crap? You know? It's you think you can just go on and ridicule people and their feelings and everything like that? I thought the whole thing see, this is what's funny is that, apparently, the left just doesn't have any feelings. Even though we're supposed to all have feelings for them and whatever they want, you know, and everything like that. But they just don't have any basic human, like, empathy for people that are in pain, that are feeling sad about Charlie Kirk or anything like that. There
[00:13:59] Jamon Fries:
are definitely some that are that way. I I wouldn't say they're all that way, but there are definitely some. I mean, you you can tell when you're talking to them that the only thing that matters is what I feel, what I want.
[00:14:14] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Exactly.
[00:14:16] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. There is nothing else in the world as far as they're concerned.
[00:14:20] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And and it's so sad because because it Yeah. What what's wrong with going to a funeral for a friend? You you Yeah. You know, it's like, didn't you research this guy? Didn't you know that he was friends with Charlie Kirk? Yeah. It's how could you not? I thought you were a baseball announcer, you know, that this is what you do. Yep. And and does it matter if it's political or not? No.
[00:14:44] Jamon Fries:
It shouldn't. And it wasn't political. Yes. It No. Him going to the funeral was not political. The fact that Charlie Kirk had political ideas and made political statements publicly does not mean that everything involving him is political. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:15:01] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So, yeah, I I it's it's getting crazy out there. You know? It really is. It's and then now we have this next this new shooting in Dallas.
[00:15:12] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[00:15:13] Jesse Fries:
You know, that once again, a leftist, that decided to attack ICE even though he hit detainees. So he wasn't a good shot. And I do feel sorry for the fact that shooting
[00:15:27] Jamon Fries:
most people shooting guns aren't good shots. Yeah. Yeah. It's just just the fact I mean, you know, I mean, the thing that I absolutely hate about the about this is that you don't have to kill other people because you don't agree with them. Alright. You don't you don't you don't open up warfare on police officers or other federal agencies for doing their job.
[00:16:03] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Completely.
[00:16:06] Jamon Fries:
They are just other people doing their job.
[00:16:11] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:16:13] Jamon Fries:
If you wanna complain about immigration, if you wanna complain about what ICE is doing, talk to your freaking congressman and tell them to change the damn law.
[00:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Right? But violence is not the key, you know. It is listen to this. I I took a little clip of this, Christopher O'Leary. He was on MSNBC. This is what he had to say about this.
[00:16:39] Unknown:
So, you know, we can tone down the the rhetoric and that that's the right message. But you also have to start looking at what policies you've implemented and what tactics you're using. Because if you tone down the rhetoric but you leave those other pieces in place, nothing's gonna
[00:16:56] Jesse Fries:
Nothing's gonna change. So, basically, we need to change the policies and let these terrorists Yeah. Win. Yeah. So we're we're supposed to give in when violence
[00:17:08] Jamon Fries:
It's it's it's even it's even beyond that. It's if there's a chance that violence may happen, we have to completely forget about our laws. Right? Because it's not policies. This has absolutely nothing to do with policies. This is law.
[00:17:27] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. It it is law. This is the law of the land. Pure and simple. Yeah. It's not like, Biden's policies that were to just let everybody in. That was the policy.
[00:17:37] Jamon Fries:
He was actually breaking the law by doing that. Yes. Yes. Completely. Completely. So no. It's not policy in any way.
[00:17:48] Jesse Fries:
And what what does that matter? So we're supposed to just let just go with violence now? This is a ex FBI agent. Anarchy rules supreme, I guess. This is a ex FBI agent. How how the hell?
[00:18:02] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, that explains it. I know. But still, it's
[00:18:06] Jesse Fries:
it just makes no sense to me. 100%. It makes no sense. It's violence is okay, apparently. This is what the left is saying. So, basically, we need to brace ourselves is what he is telling us to do. Yeah. Everybody on the right needs to brace themselves and yeah. He he wants a war, apparently. He he he seriously seems to want a civil war or something like that. It does seem so.
[00:18:34] Jamon Fries:
Or just give in. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah. Well, he want he wants us all to be sheep is what he wants. Because for a long time, we've been sheep. Yep. Yep. But we're starting to wake up. We're starting to get to we're we're starting to find our teeth again. Yeah. Yeah. I think to turn back into wolves.
[00:18:55] Jesse Fries:
I I I think the right has always been, we're conservative. So we like the net Yeah. The status quo. That that that is what Exactly. It's to conserve. It's not to revolt. It's not to do any of that. Yep. It is to conserve. That is in the name itself. To conserve the society, to conserve things like this. And so it's not a violent trend on the right. Yes. There are, of course, some jackasses Yeah. Everything like that. And there are on the left. There's some jackasses. But it seems to be there seems to be this heating up that is just going way too far.
[00:19:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And and the the thing about being a cons about being conservative that, you know, not not as a per not as a person, but wanting to conserve your way of life. Mhmm. There does come a point in time where to conserve your way of life, you have to become more aggressive.
[00:19:53] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. If need be. If need be. Yes. You have to protect what you have. And You know, it's yeah. You know, it it's it's one of those things where you can take the calmest person in the world,
[00:20:04] Jamon Fries:
but if you keep pushing them too hard Yeah.
[00:20:09] Jesse Fries:
Eventually, they're gonna take that swing back. Yep. Yep. It it it just makes no sense to me. It really doesn't. It's Yeah. It does. You know, it's and then then then you see all these, I I've seen some news articles and whatnot or or commentators. You know how because on this latest guy in Dallas, he wrote, like, anti ice and everything like that Yeah. On his on the bullet On the bullet casing and everything like that. And then Yep. Some of these commentators are going, well, this star is a right wing thing, so I don't know why the left is using it. But you you can blame the right for them writing messages on the bullets.
[00:20:53] Jamon Fries:
Wait. What?
[00:20:54] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've seen this. It is ridiculous. Where
[00:20:59] Jamon Fries:
I have never heard of a right wing thing writing messages on bullets. No. And then I've also seen where it's like, well,
[00:21:06] Jesse Fries:
it's apparently, it goes back over, like, thousands of years writing, like, jokes, writing this, writing messages on armaments. You know? It's it's like Yeah. And I and I've heard of writing names on bullets if you were try really wanted to kill someone. Well, right. You know? Or, you know, like, say hi to Adolf. You know? That's where they got bombs and everything like that. You know? This is it's it's a very normal tradition. Where does that where does that, like, conservative
[00:21:34] Jamon Fries:
thing come in?
[00:21:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, I I I did say conservative. Right wing.
[00:21:39] Jamon Fries:
A right wing. Right wing. Where where does that come in? I don't know. Completely out of out of the left field.
[00:21:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it it is crazy. They they they they they're so they are they so wanna just blame Mega for all this. They they started to blame Mega for the shooting also. You know, they go because it it was like they shot detainees. You know, I've seen these things where it goes, oh, the Yeah. So so all this violence is heated up, and two d detainees were shot in Dallas. That's all it said. It did not say that it was an indiscriminate shooting. It just said that two detainees
[00:22:19] Jamon Fries:
were shot and were shot, killed. That's all it said. So it didn't say that somebody sat up on top of a roof with a rifle and just randomly shot at a ice vehicle?
[00:22:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. It did not say that. Wow. Yes. And so because of this, it's they're really trying to slant the narrative on this And and just blame the right even though it's the left that's doing it. You know? It's nobody should be doing this. You know? It's the violence is not the answer, people. You know? It's No. It's not. Not gonna help anything. And you think No. You think with Trump in there, the right is gonna back down? You know? It's That ain't happening ever. No. It's yeah. It's not gonna happen. You know? It's, no. Trump may change his policies like crazy, you know, like with Russia. But, you know, yeah.
[00:23:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You you know, the you you make it you you make little fine tune adjustments, and then you do a one eighty, and then you make fine tune adjustments, and then you do a one eighty. I mean, you know, that's the way it works.
[00:23:30] Jesse Fries:
Sometimes, I I think it's, it's let's see what it goes past the three sixty. He, like, goes all the way around and then goes Oh, yeah. Ends up being, like, a one eighty, but he went all the way around a couple times. Sometimes, yeah, it's like, you know, how you do it. You know? So yeah. I'm not saying I understand Trump all the time, but yeah. Well, you see, the the thing is is for that, you have to you have to remember
[00:23:56] Jamon Fries:
that Trump is and always was liberal. Right. Right. Right. And that is something that you have always seen out of liberal politicians. You see it sometimes out of conservative politicians too, but I would I would say the majority of the time that it happens, you're seeing it on the liberal side.
[00:24:20] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. And with that, that's liberal, like, actual
[00:24:25] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Actual liberal, not Democrat. It's it's like a a certain mindset. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. And and that mindset is more of a reactionary mindset. They they react to what's going on, which is why they're able to just justify switching switching their opinion their idea over and over again. And and our world needs those people in it. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. You know, if if the world were were just a whole bunch of old codgers like us conservatives that weren't willing to shift our mind on anything,
[00:25:01] Jesse Fries:
you know, the world would be in a probably a much worse place. No. It would. It would. We we we need we do need change and everything like that. And, you know, it's yeah. We we we need change, you know. So, I would say slow change, you know, acting is the best change, you know, not Which which is why when you have a combination of the two and they actually work together,
[00:25:26] Jamon Fries:
it is a slow change. Right. Exactly. It's a slow change that both sides like because Yep. The Liberals are getting their change and the conservatives are seeing that, you know, we're they're given time to accept these changes. Mhmm. I think that's the that's the biggest reason that all of this stuff with, like, trans really got on everybody's goat was because it was, like, one day we were fine. The next day, we had to call you something different other than sir or ma'am?
[00:25:58] Jesse Fries:
Or we couldn't even make like a Yeah. You couldn't you couldn't
[00:26:03] Jamon Fries:
even yeah. You couldn't look at someone and say, how you doing, sir?
[00:26:08] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:26:10] Jamon Fries:
When they completely look like a man, they may even be dressed like a man. But if they wanna be called me madame or something like that Right. Right. Right. You get in trouble for not doing it the first time you meet them. Or or trying to remember what they are because Yes.
[00:26:25] Jesse Fries:
Yes. I I think most of the things that weren't real, I think that is completely gone mostly Yeah. Like z and things like that. They're still there. I I still hear about it. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah. It's not nearly as prominent. It it's not as prominent. It because you you're just trying to be different. You're just trying to get upset. That's you Yep. For no reason. You're not doing it for yourself except to Oh, no. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Possibly show that you're persecuted and things like that. You know? If you have issues that seek help. You you you know? Things like that. You you know? It's which I and I'll try to accommodate. But if there's a mistake or this or that, and then all of a sudden people go off on you, it's like you're not even gonna bother anymore. You're just gonna Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. You're gonna get a bit militant about the situation, you know, and just say, yeah. No. I'm I'm not doing it at all. Period. Yeah. You know? So Yeah.
[00:27:23] Jamon Fries:
The more you get yelled at for making a mistake when you're dealing with, like, multiple people, that's that's the one thing that just drives me nuts. It's like, okay. So I have to call her z. I have to help call her him. I have to call her this. I have to call him that. I have to call him this. I have to Yep. How the hell am I gonna remember them all?
[00:27:45] Jesse Fries:
It's it's and you have to ask for each one. It's like Yeah. It's too much work. It is It is way too much. Too much work. It it's it's like you are not important to me. Plain and simple. Yeah. You know, it's like if it's your child, of course, you're gonna figure that person out. Yeah. Or that furry, whatever the hell it is nowadays. Yep. You know? But if if you are not in their life, like, except for, like, just regular social interaction, you walk into a store or something like that, and somebody says the wrong thing and you get angry because they're not even paying attention to you and somehow they glanced at you got the wrong misinterpretation of what you're trying to put that out there in the world.
Yep. And then you get all pissy about it? Nah. Nah. Yeah. No. Because we are all stuck in our own heads, people. This is what it is. Oh, yeah. We're just stuck in our own heads. We're trying our best. Yep. You know, I never tried to go out and hurt people. But, you know, I may have. You know, I have no clue.
[00:28:55] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. I I I know for a fact that I have offended people unintentionally. Yeah. Yeah. It it it it Because they've always told me, and I'm like, oh, shit. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I will take that into advise to I I will take that I will try not to do that again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's Keyword being try. I can't guarantee anything.
[00:29:16] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. But yeah. Now everything's just going into violence. You know? It's Yep. And it's been three with just in a matter of couple weeks, really. It's been Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Minnesota shooting, Charlie Kirk. This one. Yeah. It it it started to escalate a bit too quickly. It really is. It's,
[00:29:41] Jamon Fries:
Oh, the same day of Charlie Kirk, there was a school shooting in, Colorado.
[00:29:45] Jesse Fries:
Yep. I haven't heard much about that one. That one just disappeared. So I don't know anybody based for that or anything like that. I have no clue. Yeah. No. I I don't know either.
[00:29:55] Jamon Fries:
It it's like that one really did just disappear. I've never I've never seen a school shooting disappear that quickly before. Well, Charlie Kirk. That's why. Well, yeah. I I know. But I mean, you know, it generally, if there's a if there's other big news, they'll at least mention it from time to time if they find out something. Yeah. Either either they've never found out anything about it or
[00:30:20] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Well, I think someone something that they didn't wanna talk about. Yeah. I or it was just like it it it was a shooting, but it wasn't any big deal. Because I no. Was everybody killed in that except for maybe the shooters? Yeah. There were there were a couple that were killed. Okay. Okay. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. But no. There there there's something that didn't hit the make the narrative. You know? Right. Yeah. News media is always trying to push a certain narrative and everything like that. Yep. Yep. And the right is all concerned about Charlie Kirk, so they're not paying attention to that.
Yeah. That is true. They're trying to defend themselves against their reaction to Charlie Kirk. So Yep. Yeah. It's a crazy world we live in, Jamie. That's all I can say is. Yeah. It was purely crazy.
[00:31:12] Jamon Fries:
Talking about a little bit of craziness.
[00:31:14] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:31:17] Jamon Fries:
The Secret Service took down a a, like, telecom take down, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:31:31] Jesse Fries:
I saw that.
[00:31:33] Jamon Fries:
There were, like, a three three hundred SIM servers with over a thousand SIM cards that were utilized. Yeah. It was within 35 miles of u of the UN. So the, you know, they they can be used for a couple different ways. One, the the what what got them to notice it was suddenly can the, people in, like, Trump's office, the the different people within the conservative realm
[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:32:09] Jamon Fries:
Started getting text messages threatening their life. Right. Right. But they couldn't track them to any specific phone.
[00:32:19] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:32:20] Jamon Fries:
And so they finally in in their tracking with everything, they they found these farms. And I mean, with these farms, they could have shut down
[00:32:29] Jesse Fries:
everything in New York City. No. Yeah. It also said it could send out, like, 3,000,000 text messages in, like, a second or something like that. Yeah. It's like
[00:32:40] Jamon Fries:
it was crazy. Yeah. Well, that's that's how it would have taken down the new the New York network is Oh, yeah. Completely overloading the cell signals, making it set communication was impossible.
[00:32:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I heard, like, crime organizations were using it, so on and so forth. It was it was just basically a black market, cell network. It's basically what it was. Yeah. Yep. That, countries were using and, criminal organizations were using. So it's, Yeah. It it
[00:33:10] Jamon Fries:
the the people that set it up, they say we're foreign work we're foreign. I can't remember the exact terminology they use. What whatever they say for, like, foreign spies and stuff like that. Oh, okay. And the them and people that are known to the police is what they
[00:33:33] Jesse Fries:
said. People that are known to the police. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. Yep. Yeah. That is a crazy thing. That is a really crazy story.
[00:33:46] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I I'm I I looked at some pictures. I mean, it's just just shelves upon shelves in, like, in a in in, like, in a a little in an office building Mhmm. That are just filled with these with these SIM cards on on connectors with big antennas sticking up off of them. Right. Right. It is insane.
[00:34:10] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. Let's see. International news. So there was a massive, cyber attack, against The UK, this week. Yep. And, apparently, they just it basically attacked, especially, like, airlines and everything like that. Yeah. But, apparently, one of the, a UK chancellor, decided to go out there and just blame Putin for everything. He goes, it's Putin. It's Russia. Of course. It's Russia. Of course. Yeah. Then today, I saw a news story. Oh, it was this guy from, a a very English name. Just 100% English name, you know. And it's like, I guess that wasn't Putin, was it? You know, it was just it was just as it was he was a hacker. That's basically how it was. You know, good old fashioned hacker that was taking things down, you know, having Yeah. And and they say.
[00:35:09] Jamon Fries:
You know, it it's something that I wouldn't be surprised if he was paid to do it by somebody else. Because what he targeted was the ability of the, of the of the people doing the boarding to be able to verify and check to see if to see who was supposed to be on the plane.
[00:35:30] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:35:32] Jamon Fries:
So it wouldn't shock me to hear that, you know, as soon as this happened, somebody that that was, like, on a on a most wanted list or something like that didn't hop on a plane. Possibly. I don't know. I don't know. But you you know Or or it could have just been he wanted to hack the system. I mean, you know, I mean, the those are the only two things that I could think of as to why it would have why he would have done that. Yeah. It's either just to prove that he could or to or because he got paid to do it by somebody else. Well, yeah. There's also other hacks against, like, Land Rover,
[00:36:11] Jesse Fries:
Marks and Spencer, Harrods, that sort of thing. So it wasn't it was it was just hacks, you you know? So it's Hacks all happen all the time. They they do. They do. But, of course, everything is Russia's fault. No matter what, it's Putin. Of course. Absolutely. Putin.
[00:36:27] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:36:30] Jesse Fries:
I don't think it's Putin. It's,
[00:36:32] Jamon Fries:
That it is. Yeah. Also on international news, Denmark, for the second time now Mhmm. Has banned wearing a burqa in public.
[00:36:46] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. The the Danes do not like
[00:36:50] Jamon Fries:
it. Now, they want there are other people being affected by this and those peep those people are anyone else that has their faces covered. Yeah. Yeah. Well It's all about There you go. You're more than welcome to be here. We just don't want you covering your face. I'm sorry. I don't like you know me and,
[00:37:10] Jesse Fries:
masks and veils and everything like that, you know. Oh, yeah. I I I don't like that ICE uses it. I don't like it. It's Yep. Show your face. We we are Yeah. We are a democratic free society. You don't cover your face. Plain to him. Yeah. It it is. That's how I view it, you know. Absolutely. If you're hiding your face, you're hiding something. You know, it's Yeah.
[00:37:36] Jamon Fries:
Most definitely.
[00:37:38] Jesse Fries:
Otherwise, why would you do it? So it's Yeah. Yeah. No. When it comes to, like, burkas and things like that, I've seen these things where it's, like, it shows, like, the culture of all these different areas in The Middle East and everything like that. Yeah. And they showed the traditional dress and everything like that, you know, like belly dancers and things like that. And then they go, but now Islamists have made you wear a burqa. Yeah. Yeah. It's like all all this stuff is, like, look at all the lovely clothing that you used to have. And now Yeah. A burqa. You you know, it it's like, how about you celebrate your culture, you know? It it's
[00:38:17] Jamon Fries:
And not not only that, but also, it's usually black.
[00:38:23] Jesse Fries:
A lot of times. Some places it's blue,
[00:38:27] Jamon Fries:
there are different colors. But it's always at least a dark color.
[00:38:30] Jesse Fries:
Well, actually, the blue is light, actually. But yeah. It's Oh, is it really? Yeah. It's a light blue. I can't remember. A light blue one. Yeah. Yeah. Let me see if I can find it.
[00:38:40] Jamon Fries:
Okay. But, I mean, I'm I'm sure there is. But, you know, I keep seeing these people wearing black, and I used to wear a lot of black clothing.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. And
[00:38:51] Jamon Fries:
when the sun was shining on me, that wasn't that comfortable. Right. It got damn hot in there. Uh-huh.
[00:38:58] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Oh, it's Afghan. It's the Okay. Yeah. Lighter blue. Yep. Yeah. So yeah. No. I I I I I really don't understand. I've never understood this idea that women need to cover themselves up, and men can just run rampant. Well, I would say You need to that
[00:39:28] Jamon Fries:
the reason for it now, I don't know if this is the specific reason as to why it why they do it, but this is a reason that I can guess, is that the woman is a man's possession in that world, if I remember correctly.
[00:39:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. I I possibly. Possibly. I think it probably all depends on the culture and everything. Right. Yeah. It it depends on the culture. It depends on which,
[00:39:55] Jamon Fries:
if you're a Shia or the other one. It it there's a lot that that it depends on. But in the really, really strict cultures. Right. If I remember correctly, the woman is almost considered the property of the man.
[00:40:12] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's been part of human history for a long, long time, unfortunately.
[00:40:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. I I I I What they do is they have may have them cover their faces
[00:40:23] Jesse Fries:
so that other men do not lust after them. No. I understand the theory. I understand the theory. What Yeah. The the the idea that a man can't control himself is the issue issue in my Oh, absolutely. Well, in in that in that part of the world, the man doesn't have to control himself. That's the thing. Yeah. Which is pathetic. 100%. Yeah. It it very much so. Man up, control yourself, control your emotions, control how you interact in public behind Yeah. Closed doors, whatever, dude. As long as you're not hurting anybody else, you know, or it's all consensual, fine. But Yep. In public?
No. No. No. You you you rape a woman, you die. You know? It's that that sort of thing. You know, it's, I'd be fine with that. You know? You I'd be 100% fine with that as well. Yeah. You know, kid, instantaneous castration, drunk quartered, and everything like that. You know? Yep. This is
[00:41:19] Jamon Fries:
control yourself. Yeah. That that's Do do that to the kid, and as far as I'm concerned, you should die in the most horrible way possible.
[00:41:30] Jesse Fries:
Hold on. Hold on. I gotta I gotta pause here.
[00:41:41] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:41:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Sorry about that, guys. I am back. Had to take a phone call. There's one of the kids. So had to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So where were we? Well At least I don't feel so bad about being three minutes late now. Well, you know, you you you can't play with, like, having to deal with a kid, you know. You you you you just reading too long, Jayme. That's a whole different issue. What were we talking about?
[00:42:16] Jamon Fries:
We were talking about the burqa, but I think we're I think we've killed that subject.
[00:42:20] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. So on to business news. Uh-huh.
[00:42:26] Jamon Fries:
Aren't you gonna do our business spiel now? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well well, you
[00:42:31] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm still my brain is still isn't fully there. But, anyways, here at the minus meanderies, we are a value for value podcast. What that means is that if you cut anything out of the show, if you got any value out of out of it, just think about it and try to figure out how much that was worth to you. Was it worth a dollar? Was it worth $5? Was it worth a $100? Whatever it's worth to you, whether it's worth you doing a little piece of artwork for us, or it's, doing a little jingle for us, or something like that, let us know. Please send it to us. You can always email me at jesse@mindlessc.com, or, Jamon, you can, email at jamon@mindlessmeanderings.com.
Anything would help. Just hearing from you guys would be great. So please, reach out to us, unless if you're trying to be get an interview because, like, I get a lot of those emails. I wanna do an interview on your podcast. I'm like, no. We don't do interviews on this podcast. Maybe we should. But, no, we won't. That that that just doesn't sound fun. Absolutely not. Does not sound like fun to me. Yeah. But yeah. So anything that helps, there's also donation links and everything like that. And also remember, we are generally always live at 1PM, Monday and Thursdays. This is central time. We go live. No scripting, no nothing. We go live.
Bare balls, you know. And so yeah. You could even I'm gonna cut out some of this long pause here, but, you know, you could be part of that long pause. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What you got, Jamey?
[00:44:13] Jamon Fries:
Well, same story as you have, but, except I did not know that Google owned YouTube. You didn't? No. I didn't. I thought they were separate entities. What?
[00:44:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Wow, dude. I thought that was Yeah. Common knowledge. Apparently not. Apparently not.
[00:44:39] Jamon Fries:
I don't I don't follow that stuff that often. Oh, okay. Okay. It's like Google logins. Everything's Google. Yeah. You know, I I I don't know. I don't know. I I've never law actually logged in to to YouTube. So I I just pull it up and start playing videos. I could Oh, I got it. If you have a dinner or anything. Makes sense. But, yeah. So they're reinstating accounts that were banned for spreading misinformation.
[00:45:07] Jesse Fries:
Conservative accounts. They specifically say we're Conservative accounts. Yes. Yes.
[00:45:13] Jamon Fries:
Yes. I I I do love what they said, though. Uh-huh. So they they come out and say, we are we are dedicated to ensuring the free speech of everyone, and we did not like that we that we were told to do this by the Biden administration. But we did it anyways. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:45:35] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Oh, and and Kimmel was kicked off the air, so that's different. Right? Yeah. It's a prescient of speech either way. You know? It's, we could all nitpick on why this one isn't bad or so on and so forth, but it all equates to the same thing, and it's all bad. Oh, yeah.
[00:45:57] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The only legitimate reason to deplatform someone or to hire someone from a job is because of underperformance or because you just can't afford to pay them anymore. Right.
[00:46:10] Jesse Fries:
No. Completely. Completely. You you know, they in a time of war, things, of course, change a little bit and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. You need to you need to suppress some things and everything like that. But in general, no. No. You you you just don't. You know? I I can understand the emergencies, but those emergencies need to be super short. Yes. And that's it. You know? It's, yeah.
[00:46:36] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I mean, you know, I've I've never had a problem with, like, temporary bans, you know, because of what you said you're gonna be you're not gonna be on air for a week. Right. Right. Or something like that. But to just completely ban the account, they had to have done something extremely reprehensible. Right? Exactly. I'm sorry, but talking about conservative ideals, saying that that Fauci was not on the up and up, saying that the COVID vaccine had issues.
[00:47:07] Jesse Fries:
Saying COVID was a labyrinth. That reprehensible. Yeah. No. It really isn't. It's it's basically all been proven true anyways. You know? Yeah. And it's, you know, see, that's the thing. It's it's, like, it's so funny. It's, like, peep people, they they they censor and everything like that. And then years go by and they go, well, yeah, that that that was stupid to do that, but it made sense at the time. It was like, no. No. No. No. No. Thing. There's no such thing. No. You just don't. You know, government does not get in there and stop anything when it comes to especially science. Yeah. COVID was a science situation, plain and simple. Yeah.
[00:47:47] Jamon Fries:
You know, it wasn't anything but science. And if you're you're stopping science And it was and it was a science that not all scientists agreed on.
[00:47:54] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:47:56] Jamon Fries:
And yet all of a sudden, even if you were a prominent scientist,
[00:48:00] Jesse Fries:
if you spoke out against it, you were at risk of having your account on YouTube banned. No. Yeah. There was a guy on France. He was a Nobel Peace or Nobel Prize winner for science. Uh-huh. And he basically said that this thing was jury rigged. Like, he goes there there you can see all these different virus codes inside the COVID back inside the COVID, like, including some portions of AIDS, portions of this, portions of that. You you know? And and real quickly, he was kicked aside. But now it's like going, oh, he was right. Where did he go? Nobody knows. You know? It's just it it's really sad. It is just It really is. Yes.
It just doesn't make any sense to me. Just No. Not at all. Just let it out there. You know? Don't maybe we could've dealt with it a lot quicker, you know? It's,
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because then and that's that's that's one of the biggest problems that I have with everything is if you if you sequester and don't allow some information to get out Mhmm. That means that your reaction to it is going to be a flawed reaction because you don't have all of the information.
[00:49:14] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Yes. From what I've heard, it's like how the hospitals respond, especially with the, breathing, putting everybody on a breather and everything like that. Oh, that's a bad mistake from what I understand. Oh, yeah. And it actually killed a lot of them. Killed a lot of them. Yes.
[00:49:31] Jamon Fries:
It's like COVID did. I I It it was the Yeah. I I remember I remember a time when people were, like, okay. Everybody, never allow yourself to be intubated. Instead, have them ask them to put you on a CPAP. Yeah. Yeah. And then it was like CPAP just forces the air in rather than intubation, which
[00:49:52] Jesse Fries:
messes everything up. And then at one point, they go, yeah. We we've just started putting everybody on their stomach. You know, and that worked. Yeah. It's like because then it it it doesn't get into the lungs that way. You know? It's like I'd be uncomfortable after a while, but, you know, there you go. You know? It's like yeah. No. It's there is so much. And if you don't if you just go with the orthodoxy of what is being done right now and everything like that, you're just gonna lead to more deaths and everything like that. It it just doesn't make sense.
[00:50:23] Jamon Fries:
No. Doesn't make any sense, you know. No. You you should never you should never cancel you should never disregard someone's thoughts and ideas and opinions on it, especially when it's something that's completely unknown.
[00:50:38] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Because
[00:50:41] Jamon Fries:
it may not they may have it wrong, but something that they say may lead someone else to look into a different aspect which could lead to the cure. No. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
You you you know, it's like if, Disney had just canceled Kimmel for their own reason, that would have been completely fine and Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:51:02] Jamon Fries:
Well, they even if they did just cancel him for their own reason, if Trump if Trump's administration had not said anything, Right. Then it would have been fine. Yep. Yep.
[00:51:16] Jesse Fries:
Completely. Completely.
[00:51:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's yeah. It but once government says, yeah, something's going on here, and then there's a reaction by the public, that's where the problem ensues. It's because the government instituted
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
the problem. Or even if the government doesn't put it publicly, but goes behind the scene like with Google and YouTube, you know, that's, possibly even worse, you know. It's
[00:51:41] Jamon Fries:
Well, to me, it is much worse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But as I said, I don't wanna case you which one's worse, this, that, you know, it's either way, it's bad. You know? Just, The the only reason the only reason that I say it's worse is because at least with the way that the Trump administration did it, we know they did
[00:51:58] Jesse Fries:
it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the Biden administration,
[00:52:01] Jamon Fries:
finding out about it later makes us wonder what else did they do behind our backs. Completely.
[00:52:08] Jesse Fries:
Completely. No. Yeah. That's that's what I believe too. That is what I believe too.
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
So on another note, Tello, a I guess they're an automobile manufacturing company.
[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Has
[00:52:30] Jamon Fries:
the amount of money that they raised is, it just makes me ask a whole bunch of questions. But Uh-huh. So they raised $20,000,000 to build tiny electric trucks for cities. What they're thinking on this was is their their thinking is, why is nobody buying the electric truck like the Dodge Ram and the the Ford's electric truck and stuff like that? It must be because it's too big.
[00:53:02] Jesse Fries:
Well,
[00:53:04] Jamon Fries:
I think So they are so you you've seen those little tiny cars? Yeah. They're making a truck that's just slightly longer and has a very small bid on it for in the city.
[00:53:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Yeah. I I've seen things like that. Yeah. It's
[00:53:20] Jamon Fries:
we'll see. And it the it's starting it's the starting price is gonna be around $41 for it.
[00:53:27] Jesse Fries:
$4.04 41?
[00:53:30] Jamon Fries:
Yes. 41 for a tiny ass little vehicle. Jesus.
[00:53:38] Jesse Fries:
Nobody's gonna spend 41,000. You you know, at least it's late, with their small truck. It's just bare bones, and it's it's, like, slightly over 20,000. You know? It's in the twenties, at least. You know? Twenties is reasonable for for a vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. 40 for a tiny ass truck?
[00:53:58] Jamon Fries:
I know less that thing's got wings and can fly me out of, can fly me out of out of out of traffic jam. No way in hell.
[00:54:07] Jesse Fries:
That's even a smaller bed than Yeah. Regular would. It's like the slate is a regular size. Yeah. Yeah. The slate is regular sized bed.
[00:54:17] Jamon Fries:
Right. Yeah. No. I mean, in the picture that I see it here, the the guy standing next to it, very average guy. He's he's not he's a slim guy. He's not, you know, big or anything like that. And I'd say if you laid him down sideways, you could maybe put three of them in the truck in the bed. So yeah. No.
[00:54:40] Jesse Fries:
That is interesting. That is interesting. Well Yep. Yeah. A lot of these things won't fly, plain simple. You know? Yeah. There's some that will, I think, and then they'll probably bought out by the big boys.
[00:54:54] Jamon Fries:
Yep. And and, you know, if if the price if the starting price were much lower Oh, yeah. It it might be it might it would be something that's reasonable. No. I agree. I agree. Yeah.
[00:55:07] Jesse Fries:
41. That that that's quite steep just for a small little thing. It's not Yep.
[00:55:12] Jamon Fries:
For a small little thing that really all you can use it for, it essentially think SUV except not covering the back. Right. So you can put you could maybe put a pallet into it. You could, you know, did you it'll work for, like, groceries and stuff like that. Mhmm. But if you're hauling anything of size, it's not gonna work at all. Right. Right.
[00:55:37] Jesse Fries:
They've only raised 20,000,000. There's not that much, especially Yeah. Trying to get a factory going. That's, like, not really all that much. You know? So, yeah, good luck to him. Let's see how it goes. But, I think it's a bit steep on, initial. Just saying.
[00:55:54] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I agree completely.
[00:55:57] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Ryan Ruth. Do you remember who he is? Rouse? Yes.
[00:56:02] Jamon Fries:
If I remember right, he's the one from the the tried to assassinate Trump at the golf course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was found guilty on all charges.
[00:56:12] Jesse Fries:
And then he stabbed himself in the neck with a pen in the court. Yeah. Yeah. Did he survive? Yeah. He survived. He survived. Okay. They got to him real quick. He wasn't yeah. Unfortunately, his daughter was there and saw the whole thing. It's just she was like, dad, don't hurt yourself. You know? Yeah. He said, we love you dad. And, yeah, it's it's rough. It's rough. You know? It's
[00:56:39] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know, but He's probably gonna spend the rest of his time life in jail, though. But Yeah. To me though, that just shows that he doesn't think about other people at all again. Right. Right. Right. Because if he if he was concerned about his daughter, he wouldn't have done it in front of his daughter. Right. Committing suicide in front of your family or in front of another person will irreparably change that person. Oh, completely.
[00:57:10] Jesse Fries:
Completely. Yeah. Yep. Yep. There's another one.
[00:57:16] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I've got an yeah. Absolutely. Uh-huh. So I've got an interesting story that if used properly, would be awesome. Mhmm. But it's way too you too easy to use it improperly. So there there's a there's a project Orbn that started up by a, company somewhere over in Europe. I think it was, I can't remember which country they're based out of. Mhmm. But, essentially, what it does is utilizing extremely, extremely powerful satellites that can see through all cloud cover and everything else like that. So Okay. There is nothing that can't be seen Uh-huh. That's going on on Earth. They're building a digital Earth Okay. Essentially, that has it can be used in positive ways. For example, training the autonomous cars.
Right. Instead of relying just on the sensor within the car, it could be patched in to this, to this other to this, basically second world that's all digital. Uh-huh. And it would be able to see all of the traffic around it. Oh, okay. Lot real time. So this in I mean, so everything happens in real time. Right. And so, you know, this this could be very helpful for, like, you wouldn't necessarily need to have a helicopter close by to track a criminal that's on the run.
[00:59:10] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:59:11] Jamon Fries:
You could just have the satellite zone in and and track him and lead the police to him. Yeah. Or to track your wife, you know? Exactly. Yeah. Which which is where it goes to the wrong place. Right. Exactly. You could you could also this could also be utilized with, in training for military operations and then being able to, in real time, adjust those operations because someone was where they weren't supposed to be or something
[00:59:41] Jesse Fries:
like
[00:59:41] Jamon Fries:
that. So these are these are the kind of things that some people would say are are good uses of it. And and so, you know but it also has areas that would be very questionable. For example, voyeurism. Right. Yep. For example, people that are vocal dissidents against the gover again, that are against the government Right. Would be able to be their every movement tracked. You would be able to see exactly who they communicate, exactly who they you know, it it would it would really fine tune the police state.
[01:00:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Like like like Britain's digital ID now that they're trying to come up with.
[01:00:31] Jamon Fries:
Yep. So, you know, it it has some good aspects to it that if you can find a way to make sure that it's limited to only that, I wouldn't be so against it. But the fact that it can be used in the in the wrong way is for so many situations Right. I am completely against it.
[01:00:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. 100%. 100%. There there's no way. No. Privacy.
[01:00:56] Jamon Fries:
I'm sorry. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:00:59] Jesse Fries:
No. No. You you you you go in your backyard and it's spying on you? No. Thank you. Yeah. I don't need this. Yeah. No. Absolutely not. Yeah. Not a fan. Not a fan. No? It's, it could be used in so many bad ways.
[01:01:15] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've already got the satellites up in the air, though. Of course, they do. Of course, they do. Yeah. Right now, they've they've got the satellites up now. They're just working on the technology of developing the synthetic reality world.
[01:01:34] Jesse Fries:
Fun. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on a good note, apparently, you you you you heard about the how we're, like, killing off so many species every year and everything like that? And Yeah. Yes. It's just going, like, exponentially. We're we're we're Oh, yeah. It's just huge extinction events, everything. So Yeah. Like that. Yada yada yada. Well, guess what? It's not happening. It's actually getting better. They've actually looked across the past five hundred years, and extinctions have actually been rare. Less than 2% of birds and mammals genre, have disappeared.
Other groups such as fish, insects, and plants, are even lower than that. And this is at a very this is a very low level. Right. In comparison to what normal extinctions actually happen. Yeah. Since, since 1500, only a 102, plants or animals have gone extinct worldwide.
[01:02:44] Jamon Fries:
That's actually a lot lower than than what I expected from what we what you hear about everything. Right? Right? They they they keep saying, oh, we just killed a 100,000
[01:02:53] Jesse Fries:
in the Amazon Forest or something like that. Right? Yeah. Most extinctions, about 76%, happen on islands, and it's most of the time actually due to invasive species. Yeah. So so think about, like, those flying carp and everything like that in on the Mississippi that that that they're trying to get into that we're trying to stop from getting into the Great Lakes. You know? It's, because or the lionfish down the Caribbean. You know? It's,
[01:03:24] Jamon Fries:
Honestly, humans the the human impact on other species, the biggest impact we have is not the climate. It's not the fact that we're terraforming. It's not any of that. Yeah. It's the fact that we bring in species that do not belong there. Yeah. Whether intentionally or unintentionally.
[01:03:45] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. You know? It it's like North America did not have dandelions Nope. Until some lady wanted to bring a sense of home with her from Europe. Yeah. And now they're freaking everywhere. Now you can't escape them. You can't escape them. You know? Yeah. Exactly. Apparently, the extinction rates, they peaked in the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds, but then declined. Okay. Across fish, insects, plants, genius genus extinctions remain extremely rare. But yeah. So it's not it's not as bad as you think it is. This is what I always like to I I it's one of my whole things, you know. It's not as bad as you think it is.
And if you let yourself go down rabbit holes on how bad things are going to be, If you just think of the negatives, you end up with what we're dealing with right now with all these Oh, yeah. Big time. People. Yep.
[01:04:52] Jamon Fries:
And on the lighter side, in my final story, do you have any more? No. That's all I got. Okay. So have you heard of any of the rule differences between Canadian football the Canadian Football League and the NFL?
[01:05:10] Jesse Fries:
No. Except they have to say a at the end of everything. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:05:15] Jamon Fries:
Okay. Well, one of one of the differences that I've always noticed is they put the field goal at the front of the end zone instead of the back of the end zone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is stupid, but okay. It it really is. But I think I finally know why. Why? I did not know this. But in the Canadian Football League, if you are trying for a field goal Uh-huh. If you miss the field goal, but the ball goes all the way through the end zone before it hits the ground Uh-huh. You get a point. What? Yes. They they they are in the process of trying to phase it out. They're expecting it to be gone with the next couple of years. But as of right now, if you miss the field goal as long as it goes all the way through the field, you still get a point.
[01:06:13] Jesse Fries:
Just because you kicked it?
[01:06:15] Jamon Fries:
Just because you kicked it far enough to go through the end zone.
[01:06:19] Jesse Fries:
So extra 10 yards. Congratulations. Yeah.
[01:06:29] Jamon Fries:
I I saw that there there there was a game that it was it was tied 19 to 19 Uh-huh. With, like, there was literally zero time left on the clock, and they're they're kicking the field goal. So there must have been a penalty or something like that. Right. Or wait. No. No. I think it's yeah. Fourth fourth quarters that has the zero zero, but then next to it, it has zero seven. So I'm assuming one of them is the play countdown, and I'm assuming that would be the zero seven one. Okay. Well, no. It could be the zero zero. If it was hiked before it hit zero, then it just hit zero.
So it could be that there it could be that there was seven seven seconds on the clock. I can't really tell based on looking at it which one is the clock and which one is the, how the amount of time that you have to do the play within. Right. But yeah. So game is essentially over. It's gonna go into overtime. But then they kick a field goal, he misses it, but it got all the way through the end zone, so he got a point anyways. That is crazy. It's so insane.
[01:07:35] Jesse Fries:
It's like it's like, I don't care if you make it. Just kick it as hard as you possibly can.
[01:07:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, that that would be what you would do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Could you imagine an NFL kicker that didn't have to aim at the field goals? How far away could play they place that freaking ball? They can already do a 60 yard they could already do a 60 yard field goal. No problem.
[01:08:01] Jesse Fries:
I I I've seen pretty, what, last I think the longest is 67.
[01:08:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know? And that's just And that's when you're aiming for that short little distance of width. Exactly. But if you just So you're not putting your all into it for sure.
[01:08:16] Jesse Fries:
Just boot it. Yeah. It could be at the one yard line. Your your own one yard line. Yep. If it goes through, you're good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. Well, and with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us for episode 65 of the Minus Me Erens podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you all on Monday, 1PM.
Okay. We started three minutes late, David. Let's just blame you. I'm sorry. Yeah. What am I gonna get? That's all on me. Good afternoon, everybody. It is Thursday, September 25, and we are live with episode number 65 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries, and, you know, I really got nothing today.
[00:00:47] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries, and, yeah, I I I, got a little distracted reading a book and forgot what time it was.
[00:00:56] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So we're like three minutes late. Four yeah. Three minutes late. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 01:00, Jamie. 01:00.
[00:01:03] Jamon Fries:
I know. I know. I didn't even thought about it. I'm like, okay. I'm gonna read for half an hour, then I'm gonna go make breakfast, and I'll be ready for the show. But I didn't make breakfast, and I wasn't ready for the show.
[00:01:17] Jesse Fries:
What can you do? What can you do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it doesn't always go as planned, you know, kinda like Trump's visit to the UN. You know? That Yeah. Yeah. That that was,
[00:01:31] Jamon Fries:
interesting.
[00:01:33] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although,
[00:01:35] Jamon Fries:
I I from what I've heard, some of the scuttlebutt about conversations that staff was having, it kinda went as planned.
[00:01:46] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've heard those rumors too where they tried to sabotage or they did sabotage Trump, and everything like that, like, turning off the escalate, escalator. Yeah. Turning off the prompter. But then Yep. See, the problem is is when you turn the prompter off on Trump, he's just gonna spout.
[00:02:04] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. I mean, it ended up taking a fifteen minute speech to a fifty five minute speech. Uh-huh. Yeah. And he just trashed the UN up one side. Oh, yeah. Big time.
[00:02:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. He said your countries are going to hell. Yeah. No. It maybe that's what they wanted, but, you know, it it's it was just off the cuff. That was, that's a normal Trump. He he does the strangest things when he's off the cuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But, yeah. So I don't think they that really worked out for them very much. So it it's kinda like how the Democrat things aren't really working out for the Democrats right now when it comes to negotiating the shutdown. Yeah. Yep. Because they wanted the shutdown to be, like, this whole big thing where it's like, they go, well, we we're not gonna have a clean bill. We're gonna make sure that we get what we want and everything like that. Right.
And then Trump just said, well, if that happens, we'll just fire everybody if it shuts down. It doesn't matter. We'll just fire the people we don't need. Like, not not a temporary thing, not anything like that. Just fire them.
[00:03:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. After all, if if if they can if if the government can shut down without them, do we really need them?
[00:03:28] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. I I think it's hilarious. You you know, it I I think it's I think it's good bluff. I wonder if you'd actually do it, but it's because, really, the Democrats don't wanna be seen as the one causing this, but they are the ones causing it. Trump taking advantage of it, that would just be Trump taking advantage of the situation. So Oh, yeah. Big time.
[00:03:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It it I've always found it amusing how the the party that's not in power will hold the budget hostage
[00:04:03] Jesse Fries:
to get stuff that they want in. Well, it's not even the budget. It's just the
[00:04:07] Jamon Fries:
deficit, you know. Well, no. No. No. I I know that. But I mean, just just it it's always been they own they they generally the biggest place that they do this is in the budget. Right. You know, you don't see it when they're talking about individual laws
[00:04:23] Jesse Fries:
as much. Right. But they do it a little bit. You know, they try to get their little bit of pork into it. Right. Right. Right. But budget bills are the big ones for this, and it always happens. Yeah. And it doesn't matter who's It's almost every year that you hear that the government is gonna shut down. No. Usually not. Lately, it's been about two to three times a year, actually. It's been Yeah. Yeah. Constant. It's like, just stop it. I I really I thought the big, beautiful build, that's what Trump when he was, like, selling it. I don't think it was actually written in there. But as he was selling it before it was written, I I think that's what he wanted to do is to stop this crap. But Oh, yeah. Big time. Apparently, they wanted to keep this crap going in commerce.
[00:05:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, that is the way the congress works. Just just like they give they give everyone else the power to create laws and rules. Mhmm. This is the one thing that they dead set are gonna hold on to, making sure that they can give money to their people.
[00:05:22] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's stupid. And some of it isn't even, like, money. Some of it's just random crap that you don't even need. You know? It's I forgot to actually put it in what some of the stuff that they were wanting, but it's pathetic. It's really it's it's it's not even tied to the budget. They just want all this and that and everything like that. And Mhmm. So it's
[00:05:46] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it's it's you know, it's it reminds me of a long time ago, the bridge To nowhere.
[00:05:53] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Oh, yeah. I don't know how many are familiar with that.
[00:05:58] Jamon Fries:
I I can't remember exactly where it was going. Where where but just somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, they decided to build a bridge and have the government paid for paper. I think it was Alaska. They could have been.
[00:06:11] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:06:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I'm not sure exactly where it was, but it it led nowhere. There was it wasn't even going to be attached to a road on the other side of the bridge.
[00:06:20] Jesse Fries:
Right. Yeah. No. Exactly. It was just, let's spend some money. Yeah. It's Yeah. It's just crazy. It really is crazy. It's Yep. They need to do something about this. Let let let's do the balanced budget amendment. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I I I I'm I am not for just letting these people spend as much as they want. I am not for that. No. No. So let's just do a balanced budget. You know? Let's keep let's get that going because we bring enough money. Amendment
[00:06:47] Jamon Fries:
that guarantees that that that rules that there has to be a balance. But Right? Yeah. You you know, you of course, you have to have some
[00:06:55] Jesse Fries:
caveats for it, like, time of war and whatnot. But, you know Right. Yeah. But yeah. It it's otherwise, we keep hearing this constantly, and all we do is if you have friends in that work for any department of the federal government, they go, oh my god. I'm gonna be without a paycheck. You know? They shut it down and blah blah blah.
[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:
You know? Well, the the thing the thing that I absolutely hate about that argument is that, yes, you may not get your check this month. Next month, you're getting double check.
[00:07:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Either way to me, it's just even if not, it's like, who cares? I I Yeah. You work for us. You know, that that's not my that's not my Yeah. Exactly. It's
[00:07:38] Jamon Fries:
Exactly.
[00:07:39] Jesse Fries:
And, you know, that's that's fine. You can be upset about it, but please stop bitching because it constantly happens, and it's both parties' fault. But you you generally, whoever you are, you just blame the one side, and you don't blame your own side. So, you know, it's just like, wah wah wah. And it's just really annoying. They just need to stop it. You know,
[00:07:59] Jamon Fries:
just completely forgetting about government in one aspect that that whole, I'm not gonna get paid this month. Right. That is what has always confused me about unions. Because when a union goes on strike, the employees get nothing. They get, like, $30 a day or something like that. And they don't get back pay on when they go on strike.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
No. They don't. They don't. But you see the bonus time that they're on strike, their families are hurting very bad. Yeah. Usually, they have a bonus, though. So Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like with GM, they always have a signing bonus, like 5 to $7,000 signing bonus. Right. So it's, yeah. It's, very common. So
[00:08:46] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That but that's that's the one place that I've always had questions about unions with, you know. No. Yeah. I I completely understand. The the the strike because I mean, it's not it's not like they're even necessarily striking because of something that they don't like going on in their company.
[00:09:05] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:09:06] Jamon Fries:
You know, I've I've heard of many it's like I I was talking to one teamster when I was when I was an over the road truck driver. And he was and I was like, so, you know, situation looks pretty tough for you guys. You gonna be going on strike anytime soon? He's like, no. It's not our turn yet.
[00:09:25] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:09:26] Jamon Fries:
Which means that another trucking company has to go on strike first, and then there's another one, and then they get two. Yeah. But they've it it's a schedule set up so that there's almost always someone on strike.
[00:09:39] Jesse Fries:
It kinda does seem that way. It kinda does seem that way. Yeah. Mhmm.
[00:09:44] Jamon Fries:
But, anyway, it's back to politics.
[00:09:48] Jesse Fries:
Well, actually, that's really about all we got for politics right now. So, yeah, it's a Okay. Unless we wanna throw some of the national news in there. Yeah. We could do that. Yeah. Like Jimmy Kimmel, you know, he's back. Yep. Yep. So and he did his whole little shtick on Tuesday. And there's just a bunch of whining apology. Yeah. There was no apology. No. There wasn't. He just said, yeah. Well, it's Trump's fault. You know, basically. Yeah. You you know, it's but, you know, Sinclair and, what's the other one? Nexstar or something like that? Yes. They're still not showing the stuff. So Oh, yeah. That's a lot of markets not, watching the show. Big markets too. Yep. Yep. And so Kimmel got, like, four times his normal audience for his return.
Mhmm. So I wonder what that I wonder what it's back to now. Probably back to the horrible ratings it was. Probably. Yeah. Especially in the key demographic. So
[00:10:49] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And from from what I've heard, he's finding it they're finding it very difficult to sell advertising for his time slots. Yeah. I bet. I bet. They they have to charge a lot less for advertising on his time slots than they do for other times. Well, it's
[00:11:10] Jesse Fries:
all these people I I really don't understand. The the the left really thought that they could just get away with this and that everybody would be okay with it. They really thought the middle would just go along with them and say, oh, you're right because you're the you're the most intelligent on the left, you know, and everything like that. You you know? And, really, that's what the left thinks. They go, oh, we have all the college educated people. So we're the smartest, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And everything like that. And so I I I really don't think they can comprehend that the nation has kinda turned against them a little bit, you know, on this one. You know? It's Yeah. The the large majority I mean, it it is definitely the majority have turned against them by now. Yeah. Yeah. It it it's just nobody wants to hear it.
Yeah. And and it's not it's not just Kimmel. Apparently, the announcer for the Mets
[00:12:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:12:07] Jesse Fries:
He there there's a Mets player, who is really, he he he was friends with Charlie Kirk. Right? He was actually friends with Charlie Kirk, and Charlie Kirk would actually,
[00:12:22] Jamon Fries:
message him or actually Cubs. No. It was the Cubs. Yeah. The Cubs. Yeah. He he went he he he skipped a game or two in order to go to the, to the,
[00:12:33] Jesse Fries:
memorial. Right. Right. But it was Yeah. The Mets announcer who dissed him and said that he there's no way he should have done that, that he should Uh-huh. Apologize for going to Kirk's funeral. You you know, it's I I just don't Yeah. I just don't get it. Maybe I have that a little bit wrong, but, you know, it it's the the fans are boycott the Mets fans are boycotting the team and refunding tickets. And this is until Gary Cohen, that's the guy, publicly apologizes for criticizing Cubs player, Matt Shaw for missing a game due to attending Charlie Kirk's memorial. Nice.
Apparently, Cohen, he he he skipped a game himself for the death of his pet. But a guy's friend Yeah. You you you you know, it's like, what the hell is this crap? You know? It's you think you can just go on and ridicule people and their feelings and everything like that? I thought the whole thing see, this is what's funny is that, apparently, the left just doesn't have any feelings. Even though we're supposed to all have feelings for them and whatever they want, you know, and everything like that. But they just don't have any basic human, like, empathy for people that are in pain, that are feeling sad about Charlie Kirk or anything like that. There
[00:13:59] Jamon Fries:
are definitely some that are that way. I I wouldn't say they're all that way, but there are definitely some. I mean, you you can tell when you're talking to them that the only thing that matters is what I feel, what I want.
[00:14:14] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Exactly.
[00:14:16] Jamon Fries:
Exactly. There is nothing else in the world as far as they're concerned.
[00:14:20] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And and it's so sad because because it Yeah. What what's wrong with going to a funeral for a friend? You you Yeah. You know, it's like, didn't you research this guy? Didn't you know that he was friends with Charlie Kirk? Yeah. It's how could you not? I thought you were a baseball announcer, you know, that this is what you do. Yep. And and does it matter if it's political or not? No.
[00:14:44] Jamon Fries:
It shouldn't. And it wasn't political. Yes. It No. Him going to the funeral was not political. The fact that Charlie Kirk had political ideas and made political statements publicly does not mean that everything involving him is political. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:15:01] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So, yeah, I I it's it's getting crazy out there. You know? It really is. It's and then now we have this next this new shooting in Dallas.
[00:15:12] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[00:15:13] Jesse Fries:
You know, that once again, a leftist, that decided to attack ICE even though he hit detainees. So he wasn't a good shot. And I do feel sorry for the fact that shooting
[00:15:27] Jamon Fries:
most people shooting guns aren't good shots. Yeah. Yeah. It's just just the fact I mean, you know, I mean, the thing that I absolutely hate about the about this is that you don't have to kill other people because you don't agree with them. Alright. You don't you don't you don't open up warfare on police officers or other federal agencies for doing their job.
[00:16:03] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Completely.
[00:16:06] Jamon Fries:
They are just other people doing their job.
[00:16:11] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:16:13] Jamon Fries:
If you wanna complain about immigration, if you wanna complain about what ICE is doing, talk to your freaking congressman and tell them to change the damn law.
[00:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Right? But violence is not the key, you know. It is listen to this. I I took a little clip of this, Christopher O'Leary. He was on MSNBC. This is what he had to say about this.
[00:16:39] Unknown:
So, you know, we can tone down the the rhetoric and that that's the right message. But you also have to start looking at what policies you've implemented and what tactics you're using. Because if you tone down the rhetoric but you leave those other pieces in place, nothing's gonna
[00:16:56] Jesse Fries:
Nothing's gonna change. So, basically, we need to change the policies and let these terrorists Yeah. Win. Yeah. So we're we're supposed to give in when violence
[00:17:08] Jamon Fries:
It's it's it's even it's even beyond that. It's if there's a chance that violence may happen, we have to completely forget about our laws. Right? Because it's not policies. This has absolutely nothing to do with policies. This is law.
[00:17:27] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. It it is law. This is the law of the land. Pure and simple. Yeah. It's not like, Biden's policies that were to just let everybody in. That was the policy.
[00:17:37] Jamon Fries:
He was actually breaking the law by doing that. Yes. Yes. Completely. Completely. So no. It's not policy in any way.
[00:17:48] Jesse Fries:
And what what does that matter? So we're supposed to just let just go with violence now? This is a ex FBI agent. Anarchy rules supreme, I guess. This is a ex FBI agent. How how the hell?
[00:18:02] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, that explains it. I know. But still, it's
[00:18:06] Jesse Fries:
it just makes no sense to me. 100%. It makes no sense. It's violence is okay, apparently. This is what the left is saying. So, basically, we need to brace ourselves is what he is telling us to do. Yeah. Everybody on the right needs to brace themselves and yeah. He he wants a war, apparently. He he he seriously seems to want a civil war or something like that. It does seem so.
[00:18:34] Jamon Fries:
Or just give in. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah. Well, he want he wants us all to be sheep is what he wants. Because for a long time, we've been sheep. Yep. Yep. But we're starting to wake up. We're starting to get to we're we're starting to find our teeth again. Yeah. Yeah. I think to turn back into wolves.
[00:18:55] Jesse Fries:
I I I think the right has always been, we're conservative. So we like the net Yeah. The status quo. That that that is what Exactly. It's to conserve. It's not to revolt. It's not to do any of that. Yep. It is to conserve. That is in the name itself. To conserve the society, to conserve things like this. And so it's not a violent trend on the right. Yes. There are, of course, some jackasses Yeah. Everything like that. And there are on the left. There's some jackasses. But it seems to be there seems to be this heating up that is just going way too far.
[00:19:33] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And and the the thing about being a cons about being conservative that, you know, not not as a per not as a person, but wanting to conserve your way of life. Mhmm. There does come a point in time where to conserve your way of life, you have to become more aggressive.
[00:19:53] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. If need be. If need be. Yes. You have to protect what you have. And You know, it's yeah. You know, it it's it's one of those things where you can take the calmest person in the world,
[00:20:04] Jamon Fries:
but if you keep pushing them too hard Yeah.
[00:20:09] Jesse Fries:
Eventually, they're gonna take that swing back. Yep. Yep. It it it just makes no sense to me. It really doesn't. It's Yeah. It does. You know, it's and then then then you see all these, I I've seen some news articles and whatnot or or commentators. You know how because on this latest guy in Dallas, he wrote, like, anti ice and everything like that Yeah. On his on the bullet On the bullet casing and everything like that. And then Yep. Some of these commentators are going, well, this star is a right wing thing, so I don't know why the left is using it. But you you can blame the right for them writing messages on the bullets.
[00:20:53] Jamon Fries:
Wait. What?
[00:20:54] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've seen this. It is ridiculous. Where
[00:20:59] Jamon Fries:
I have never heard of a right wing thing writing messages on bullets. No. And then I've also seen where it's like, well,
[00:21:06] Jesse Fries:
it's apparently, it goes back over, like, thousands of years writing, like, jokes, writing this, writing messages on armaments. You know? It's it's like Yeah. And I and I've heard of writing names on bullets if you were try really wanted to kill someone. Well, right. You know? Or, you know, like, say hi to Adolf. You know? That's where they got bombs and everything like that. You know? This is it's it's a very normal tradition. Where does that where does that, like, conservative
[00:21:34] Jamon Fries:
thing come in?
[00:21:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, I I I did say conservative. Right wing.
[00:21:39] Jamon Fries:
A right wing. Right wing. Where where does that come in? I don't know. Completely out of out of the left field.
[00:21:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It it it is crazy. They they they they they're so they are they so wanna just blame Mega for all this. They they started to blame Mega for the shooting also. You know, they go because it it was like they shot detainees. You know, I've seen these things where it goes, oh, the Yeah. So so all this violence is heated up, and two d detainees were shot in Dallas. That's all it said. It did not say that it was an indiscriminate shooting. It just said that two detainees
[00:22:19] Jamon Fries:
were shot and were shot, killed. That's all it said. So it didn't say that somebody sat up on top of a roof with a rifle and just randomly shot at a ice vehicle?
[00:22:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. It did not say that. Wow. Yes. And so because of this, it's they're really trying to slant the narrative on this And and just blame the right even though it's the left that's doing it. You know? It's nobody should be doing this. You know? It's the violence is not the answer, people. You know? It's No. It's not. Not gonna help anything. And you think No. You think with Trump in there, the right is gonna back down? You know? It's That ain't happening ever. No. It's yeah. It's not gonna happen. You know? It's, no. Trump may change his policies like crazy, you know, like with Russia. But, you know, yeah.
[00:23:17] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You you know, the you you make it you you make little fine tune adjustments, and then you do a one eighty, and then you make fine tune adjustments, and then you do a one eighty. I mean, you know, that's the way it works.
[00:23:30] Jesse Fries:
Sometimes, I I think it's, it's let's see what it goes past the three sixty. He, like, goes all the way around and then goes Oh, yeah. Ends up being, like, a one eighty, but he went all the way around a couple times. Sometimes, yeah, it's like, you know, how you do it. You know? So yeah. I'm not saying I understand Trump all the time, but yeah. Well, you see, the the thing is is for that, you have to you have to remember
[00:23:56] Jamon Fries:
that Trump is and always was liberal. Right. Right. Right. And that is something that you have always seen out of liberal politicians. You see it sometimes out of conservative politicians too, but I would I would say the majority of the time that it happens, you're seeing it on the liberal side.
[00:24:20] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. And with that, that's liberal, like, actual
[00:24:25] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Actual liberal, not Democrat. It's it's like a a certain mindset. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yep. And and that mindset is more of a reactionary mindset. They they react to what's going on, which is why they're able to just justify switching switching their opinion their idea over and over again. And and our world needs those people in it. Absolutely. Yep. Yep. You know, if if the world were were just a whole bunch of old codgers like us conservatives that weren't willing to shift our mind on anything,
[00:25:01] Jesse Fries:
you know, the world would be in a probably a much worse place. No. It would. It would. We we we need we do need change and everything like that. And, you know, it's yeah. We we we need change, you know. So, I would say slow change, you know, acting is the best change, you know, not Which which is why when you have a combination of the two and they actually work together,
[00:25:26] Jamon Fries:
it is a slow change. Right. Exactly. It's a slow change that both sides like because Yep. The Liberals are getting their change and the conservatives are seeing that, you know, we're they're given time to accept these changes. Mhmm. I think that's the that's the biggest reason that all of this stuff with, like, trans really got on everybody's goat was because it was, like, one day we were fine. The next day, we had to call you something different other than sir or ma'am?
[00:25:58] Jesse Fries:
Or we couldn't even make like a Yeah. You couldn't you couldn't
[00:26:03] Jamon Fries:
even yeah. You couldn't look at someone and say, how you doing, sir?
[00:26:08] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:26:10] Jamon Fries:
When they completely look like a man, they may even be dressed like a man. But if they wanna be called me madame or something like that Right. Right. Right. You get in trouble for not doing it the first time you meet them. Or or trying to remember what they are because Yes.
[00:26:25] Jesse Fries:
Yes. I I think most of the things that weren't real, I think that is completely gone mostly Yeah. Like z and things like that. They're still there. I I still hear about it. A little bit. A little bit. Yeah. It's not nearly as prominent. It it's not as prominent. It because you you're just trying to be different. You're just trying to get upset. That's you Yep. For no reason. You're not doing it for yourself except to Oh, no. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Possibly show that you're persecuted and things like that. You know? If you have issues that seek help. You you you know? Things like that. You you know? It's which I and I'll try to accommodate. But if there's a mistake or this or that, and then all of a sudden people go off on you, it's like you're not even gonna bother anymore. You're just gonna Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. You're gonna get a bit militant about the situation, you know, and just say, yeah. No. I'm I'm not doing it at all. Period. Yeah. You know? So Yeah.
[00:27:23] Jamon Fries:
The more you get yelled at for making a mistake when you're dealing with, like, multiple people, that's that's the one thing that just drives me nuts. It's like, okay. So I have to call her z. I have to help call her him. I have to call her this. I have to call him that. I have to call him this. I have to Yep. How the hell am I gonna remember them all?
[00:27:45] Jesse Fries:
It's it's and you have to ask for each one. It's like Yeah. It's too much work. It is It is way too much. Too much work. It it's it's like you are not important to me. Plain and simple. Yeah. You know, it's like if it's your child, of course, you're gonna figure that person out. Yeah. Or that furry, whatever the hell it is nowadays. Yep. You know? But if if you are not in their life, like, except for, like, just regular social interaction, you walk into a store or something like that, and somebody says the wrong thing and you get angry because they're not even paying attention to you and somehow they glanced at you got the wrong misinterpretation of what you're trying to put that out there in the world.
Yep. And then you get all pissy about it? Nah. Nah. Yeah. No. Because we are all stuck in our own heads, people. This is what it is. Oh, yeah. We're just stuck in our own heads. We're trying our best. Yep. You know, I never tried to go out and hurt people. But, you know, I may have. You know, I have no clue.
[00:28:55] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. I I I know for a fact that I have offended people unintentionally. Yeah. Yeah. It it it it Because they've always told me, and I'm like, oh, shit. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you. I will take that into advise to I I will take that I will try not to do that again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's Keyword being try. I can't guarantee anything.
[00:29:16] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. But yeah. Now everything's just going into violence. You know? It's Yep. And it's been three with just in a matter of couple weeks, really. It's been Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Minnesota shooting, Charlie Kirk. This one. Yeah. It it it started to escalate a bit too quickly. It really is. It's,
[00:29:41] Jamon Fries:
Oh, the same day of Charlie Kirk, there was a school shooting in, Colorado.
[00:29:45] Jesse Fries:
Yep. I haven't heard much about that one. That one just disappeared. So I don't know anybody based for that or anything like that. I have no clue. Yeah. No. I I don't know either.
[00:29:55] Jamon Fries:
It it's like that one really did just disappear. I've never I've never seen a school shooting disappear that quickly before. Well, Charlie Kirk. That's why. Well, yeah. I I know. But I mean, you know, it generally, if there's a if there's other big news, they'll at least mention it from time to time if they find out something. Yeah. Either either they've never found out anything about it or
[00:30:20] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Well, I think someone something that they didn't wanna talk about. Yeah. I or it was just like it it it was a shooting, but it wasn't any big deal. Because I no. Was everybody killed in that except for maybe the shooters? Yeah. There were there were a couple that were killed. Okay. Okay. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. But no. There there there's something that didn't hit the make the narrative. You know? Right. Yeah. News media is always trying to push a certain narrative and everything like that. Yep. Yep. And the right is all concerned about Charlie Kirk, so they're not paying attention to that.
Yeah. That is true. They're trying to defend themselves against their reaction to Charlie Kirk. So Yep. Yeah. It's a crazy world we live in, Jamie. That's all I can say is. Yeah. It was purely crazy.
[00:31:12] Jamon Fries:
Talking about a little bit of craziness.
[00:31:14] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:31:17] Jamon Fries:
The Secret Service took down a a, like, telecom take down, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:31:31] Jesse Fries:
I saw that.
[00:31:33] Jamon Fries:
There were, like, a three three hundred SIM servers with over a thousand SIM cards that were utilized. Yeah. It was within 35 miles of u of the UN. So the, you know, they they can be used for a couple different ways. One, the the what what got them to notice it was suddenly can the, people in, like, Trump's office, the the different people within the conservative realm
[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:32:09] Jamon Fries:
Started getting text messages threatening their life. Right. Right. But they couldn't track them to any specific phone.
[00:32:19] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:32:20] Jamon Fries:
And so they finally in in their tracking with everything, they they found these farms. And I mean, with these farms, they could have shut down
[00:32:29] Jesse Fries:
everything in New York City. No. Yeah. It also said it could send out, like, 3,000,000 text messages in, like, a second or something like that. Yeah. It's like
[00:32:40] Jamon Fries:
it was crazy. Yeah. Well, that's that's how it would have taken down the new the New York network is Oh, yeah. Completely overloading the cell signals, making it set communication was impossible.
[00:32:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I heard, like, crime organizations were using it, so on and so forth. It was it was just basically a black market, cell network. It's basically what it was. Yeah. Yep. That, countries were using and, criminal organizations were using. So it's, Yeah. It it
[00:33:10] Jamon Fries:
the the people that set it up, they say we're foreign work we're foreign. I can't remember the exact terminology they use. What whatever they say for, like, foreign spies and stuff like that. Oh, okay. And the them and people that are known to the police is what they
[00:33:33] Jesse Fries:
said. People that are known to the police. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. Yep. Yeah. That is a crazy thing. That is a really crazy story.
[00:33:46] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I I'm I I looked at some pictures. I mean, it's just just shelves upon shelves in, like, in a in in, like, in a a little in an office building Mhmm. That are just filled with these with these SIM cards on on connectors with big antennas sticking up off of them. Right. Right. It is insane.
[00:34:10] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. Let's see. International news. So there was a massive, cyber attack, against The UK, this week. Yep. And, apparently, they just it basically attacked, especially, like, airlines and everything like that. Yeah. But, apparently, one of the, a UK chancellor, decided to go out there and just blame Putin for everything. He goes, it's Putin. It's Russia. Of course. It's Russia. Of course. Yeah. Then today, I saw a news story. Oh, it was this guy from, a a very English name. Just 100% English name, you know. And it's like, I guess that wasn't Putin, was it? You know, it was just it was just as it was he was a hacker. That's basically how it was. You know, good old fashioned hacker that was taking things down, you know, having Yeah. And and they say.
[00:35:09] Jamon Fries:
You know, it it's something that I wouldn't be surprised if he was paid to do it by somebody else. Because what he targeted was the ability of the, of the of the people doing the boarding to be able to verify and check to see if to see who was supposed to be on the plane.
[00:35:30] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:35:32] Jamon Fries:
So it wouldn't shock me to hear that, you know, as soon as this happened, somebody that that was, like, on a on a most wanted list or something like that didn't hop on a plane. Possibly. I don't know. I don't know. But you you know Or or it could have just been he wanted to hack the system. I mean, you know, I mean, the those are the only two things that I could think of as to why it would have why he would have done that. Yeah. It's either just to prove that he could or to or because he got paid to do it by somebody else. Well, yeah. There's also other hacks against, like, Land Rover,
[00:36:11] Jesse Fries:
Marks and Spencer, Harrods, that sort of thing. So it wasn't it was it was just hacks, you you know? So it's Hacks all happen all the time. They they do. They do. But, of course, everything is Russia's fault. No matter what, it's Putin. Of course. Absolutely. Putin.
[00:36:27] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:36:30] Jesse Fries:
I don't think it's Putin. It's,
[00:36:32] Jamon Fries:
That it is. Yeah. Also on international news, Denmark, for the second time now Mhmm. Has banned wearing a burqa in public.
[00:36:46] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. The the Danes do not like
[00:36:50] Jamon Fries:
it. Now, they want there are other people being affected by this and those peep those people are anyone else that has their faces covered. Yeah. Yeah. Well It's all about There you go. You're more than welcome to be here. We just don't want you covering your face. I'm sorry. I don't like you know me and,
[00:37:10] Jesse Fries:
masks and veils and everything like that, you know. Oh, yeah. I I I don't like that ICE uses it. I don't like it. It's Yep. Show your face. We we are Yeah. We are a democratic free society. You don't cover your face. Plain to him. Yeah. It it is. That's how I view it, you know. Absolutely. If you're hiding your face, you're hiding something. You know, it's Yeah.
[00:37:36] Jamon Fries:
Most definitely.
[00:37:38] Jesse Fries:
Otherwise, why would you do it? So it's Yeah. Yeah. No. When it comes to, like, burkas and things like that, I've seen these things where it's, like, it shows, like, the culture of all these different areas in The Middle East and everything like that. Yeah. And they showed the traditional dress and everything like that, you know, like belly dancers and things like that. And then they go, but now Islamists have made you wear a burqa. Yeah. Yeah. It's like all all this stuff is, like, look at all the lovely clothing that you used to have. And now Yeah. A burqa. You you know, it it's like, how about you celebrate your culture, you know? It it's
[00:38:17] Jamon Fries:
And not not only that, but also, it's usually black.
[00:38:23] Jesse Fries:
A lot of times. Some places it's blue,
[00:38:27] Jamon Fries:
there are different colors. But it's always at least a dark color.
[00:38:30] Jesse Fries:
Well, actually, the blue is light, actually. But yeah. It's Oh, is it really? Yeah. It's a light blue. I can't remember. A light blue one. Yeah. Yeah. Let me see if I can find it.
[00:38:40] Jamon Fries:
Okay. But, I mean, I'm I'm sure there is. But, you know, I keep seeing these people wearing black, and I used to wear a lot of black clothing.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. And
[00:38:51] Jamon Fries:
when the sun was shining on me, that wasn't that comfortable. Right. It got damn hot in there. Uh-huh.
[00:38:58] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Oh, it's Afghan. It's the Okay. Yeah. Lighter blue. Yep. Yeah. So yeah. No. I I I I I really don't understand. I've never understood this idea that women need to cover themselves up, and men can just run rampant. Well, I would say You need to that
[00:39:28] Jamon Fries:
the reason for it now, I don't know if this is the specific reason as to why it why they do it, but this is a reason that I can guess, is that the woman is a man's possession in that world, if I remember correctly.
[00:39:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. I I possibly. Possibly. I think it probably all depends on the culture and everything. Right. Yeah. It it depends on the culture. It depends on which,
[00:39:55] Jamon Fries:
if you're a Shia or the other one. It it there's a lot that that it depends on. But in the really, really strict cultures. Right. If I remember correctly, the woman is almost considered the property of the man.
[00:40:12] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's been part of human history for a long, long time, unfortunately.
[00:40:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. I I I I What they do is they have may have them cover their faces
[00:40:23] Jesse Fries:
so that other men do not lust after them. No. I understand the theory. I understand the theory. What Yeah. The the the idea that a man can't control himself is the issue issue in my Oh, absolutely. Well, in in that in that part of the world, the man doesn't have to control himself. That's the thing. Yeah. Which is pathetic. 100%. Yeah. It it very much so. Man up, control yourself, control your emotions, control how you interact in public behind Yeah. Closed doors, whatever, dude. As long as you're not hurting anybody else, you know, or it's all consensual, fine. But Yep. In public?
No. No. No. You you you rape a woman, you die. You know? It's that that sort of thing. You know, it's, I'd be fine with that. You know? You I'd be 100% fine with that as well. Yeah. You know, kid, instantaneous castration, drunk quartered, and everything like that. You know? Yep. This is
[00:41:19] Jamon Fries:
control yourself. Yeah. That that's Do do that to the kid, and as far as I'm concerned, you should die in the most horrible way possible.
[00:41:30] Jesse Fries:
Hold on. Hold on. I gotta I gotta pause here.
[00:41:41] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:41:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Sorry about that, guys. I am back. Had to take a phone call. There's one of the kids. So had to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So where were we? Well At least I don't feel so bad about being three minutes late now. Well, you know, you you you can't play with, like, having to deal with a kid, you know. You you you you just reading too long, Jayme. That's a whole different issue. What were we talking about?
[00:42:16] Jamon Fries:
We were talking about the burqa, but I think we're I think we've killed that subject.
[00:42:20] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. So on to business news. Uh-huh.
[00:42:26] Jamon Fries:
Aren't you gonna do our business spiel now? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well well, you
[00:42:31] Jesse Fries:
yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm still my brain is still isn't fully there. But, anyways, here at the minus meanderies, we are a value for value podcast. What that means is that if you cut anything out of the show, if you got any value out of out of it, just think about it and try to figure out how much that was worth to you. Was it worth a dollar? Was it worth $5? Was it worth a $100? Whatever it's worth to you, whether it's worth you doing a little piece of artwork for us, or it's, doing a little jingle for us, or something like that, let us know. Please send it to us. You can always email me at jesse@mindlessc.com, or, Jamon, you can, email at jamon@mindlessmeanderings.com.
Anything would help. Just hearing from you guys would be great. So please, reach out to us, unless if you're trying to be get an interview because, like, I get a lot of those emails. I wanna do an interview on your podcast. I'm like, no. We don't do interviews on this podcast. Maybe we should. But, no, we won't. That that that just doesn't sound fun. Absolutely not. Does not sound like fun to me. Yeah. But yeah. So anything that helps, there's also donation links and everything like that. And also remember, we are generally always live at 1PM, Monday and Thursdays. This is central time. We go live. No scripting, no nothing. We go live.
Bare balls, you know. And so yeah. You could even I'm gonna cut out some of this long pause here, but, you know, you could be part of that long pause. Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What you got, Jamey?
[00:44:13] Jamon Fries:
Well, same story as you have, but, except I did not know that Google owned YouTube. You didn't? No. I didn't. I thought they were separate entities. What?
[00:44:30] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Wow, dude. I thought that was Yeah. Common knowledge. Apparently not. Apparently not.
[00:44:39] Jamon Fries:
I don't I don't follow that stuff that often. Oh, okay. Okay. It's like Google logins. Everything's Google. Yeah. You know, I I I don't know. I don't know. I I've never law actually logged in to to YouTube. So I I just pull it up and start playing videos. I could Oh, I got it. If you have a dinner or anything. Makes sense. But, yeah. So they're reinstating accounts that were banned for spreading misinformation.
[00:45:07] Jesse Fries:
Conservative accounts. They specifically say we're Conservative accounts. Yes. Yes.
[00:45:13] Jamon Fries:
Yes. I I I do love what they said, though. Uh-huh. So they they come out and say, we are we are dedicated to ensuring the free speech of everyone, and we did not like that we that we were told to do this by the Biden administration. But we did it anyways. Yeah. Exactly.
[00:45:35] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Oh, and and Kimmel was kicked off the air, so that's different. Right? Yeah. It's a prescient of speech either way. You know? It's, we could all nitpick on why this one isn't bad or so on and so forth, but it all equates to the same thing, and it's all bad. Oh, yeah.
[00:45:57] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The only legitimate reason to deplatform someone or to hire someone from a job is because of underperformance or because you just can't afford to pay them anymore. Right.
[00:46:10] Jesse Fries:
No. Completely. Completely. You you know, they in a time of war, things, of course, change a little bit and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. You need to you need to suppress some things and everything like that. But in general, no. No. You you you just don't. You know? I I can understand the emergencies, but those emergencies need to be super short. Yes. And that's it. You know? It's, yeah.
[00:46:36] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I mean, you know, I've I've never had a problem with, like, temporary bans, you know, because of what you said you're gonna be you're not gonna be on air for a week. Right. Right. Or something like that. But to just completely ban the account, they had to have done something extremely reprehensible. Right? Exactly. I'm sorry, but talking about conservative ideals, saying that that Fauci was not on the up and up, saying that the COVID vaccine had issues.
[00:47:07] Jesse Fries:
Saying COVID was a labyrinth. That reprehensible. Yeah. No. It really isn't. It's it's basically all been proven true anyways. You know? Yeah. And it's, you know, see, that's the thing. It's it's, like, it's so funny. It's, like, peep people, they they they censor and everything like that. And then years go by and they go, well, yeah, that that that was stupid to do that, but it made sense at the time. It was like, no. No. No. No. No. Thing. There's no such thing. No. You just don't. You know, government does not get in there and stop anything when it comes to especially science. Yeah. COVID was a science situation, plain and simple. Yeah.
[00:47:47] Jamon Fries:
You know, it wasn't anything but science. And if you're you're stopping science And it was and it was a science that not all scientists agreed on.
[00:47:54] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:47:56] Jamon Fries:
And yet all of a sudden, even if you were a prominent scientist,
[00:48:00] Jesse Fries:
if you spoke out against it, you were at risk of having your account on YouTube banned. No. Yeah. There was a guy on France. He was a Nobel Peace or Nobel Prize winner for science. Uh-huh. And he basically said that this thing was jury rigged. Like, he goes there there you can see all these different virus codes inside the COVID back inside the COVID, like, including some portions of AIDS, portions of this, portions of that. You you know? And and real quickly, he was kicked aside. But now it's like going, oh, he was right. Where did he go? Nobody knows. You know? It's just it it's really sad. It is just It really is. Yes.
It just doesn't make any sense to me. Just No. Not at all. Just let it out there. You know? Don't maybe we could've dealt with it a lot quicker, you know? It's,
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because then and that's that's that's one of the biggest problems that I have with everything is if you if you sequester and don't allow some information to get out Mhmm. That means that your reaction to it is going to be a flawed reaction because you don't have all of the information.
[00:49:14] Jesse Fries:
Yes. Yes. From what I've heard, it's like how the hospitals respond, especially with the, breathing, putting everybody on a breather and everything like that. Oh, that's a bad mistake from what I understand. Oh, yeah. And it actually killed a lot of them. Killed a lot of them. Yes.
[00:49:31] Jamon Fries:
It's like COVID did. I I It it was the Yeah. I I remember I remember a time when people were, like, okay. Everybody, never allow yourself to be intubated. Instead, have them ask them to put you on a CPAP. Yeah. Yeah. And then it was like CPAP just forces the air in rather than intubation, which
[00:49:52] Jesse Fries:
messes everything up. And then at one point, they go, yeah. We we've just started putting everybody on their stomach. You know, and that worked. Yeah. It's like because then it it it doesn't get into the lungs that way. You know? It's like I'd be uncomfortable after a while, but, you know, there you go. You know? It's like yeah. No. It's there is so much. And if you don't if you just go with the orthodoxy of what is being done right now and everything like that, you're just gonna lead to more deaths and everything like that. It it just doesn't make sense.
[00:50:23] Jamon Fries:
No. Doesn't make any sense, you know. No. You you should never you should never cancel you should never disregard someone's thoughts and ideas and opinions on it, especially when it's something that's completely unknown.
[00:50:38] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Because
[00:50:41] Jamon Fries:
it may not they may have it wrong, but something that they say may lead someone else to look into a different aspect which could lead to the cure. No. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
You you you know, it's like if, Disney had just canceled Kimmel for their own reason, that would have been completely fine and Yeah. Absolutely.
[00:51:02] Jamon Fries:
Well, they even if they did just cancel him for their own reason, if Trump if Trump's administration had not said anything, Right. Then it would have been fine. Yep. Yep.
[00:51:16] Jesse Fries:
Completely. Completely.
[00:51:18] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's yeah. It but once government says, yeah, something's going on here, and then there's a reaction by the public, that's where the problem ensues. It's because the government instituted
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
the problem. Or even if the government doesn't put it publicly, but goes behind the scene like with Google and YouTube, you know, that's, possibly even worse, you know. It's
[00:51:41] Jamon Fries:
Well, to me, it is much worse. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But as I said, I don't wanna case you which one's worse, this, that, you know, it's either way, it's bad. You know? Just, The the only reason the only reason that I say it's worse is because at least with the way that the Trump administration did it, we know they did
[00:51:58] Jesse Fries:
it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the Biden administration,
[00:52:01] Jamon Fries:
finding out about it later makes us wonder what else did they do behind our backs. Completely.
[00:52:08] Jesse Fries:
Completely. No. Yeah. That's that's what I believe too. That is what I believe too.
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
So on another note, Tello, a I guess they're an automobile manufacturing company.
[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Has
[00:52:30] Jamon Fries:
the amount of money that they raised is, it just makes me ask a whole bunch of questions. But Uh-huh. So they raised $20,000,000 to build tiny electric trucks for cities. What they're thinking on this was is their their thinking is, why is nobody buying the electric truck like the Dodge Ram and the the Ford's electric truck and stuff like that? It must be because it's too big.
[00:53:02] Jesse Fries:
Well,
[00:53:04] Jamon Fries:
I think So they are so you you've seen those little tiny cars? Yeah. They're making a truck that's just slightly longer and has a very small bid on it for in the city.
[00:53:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Yeah. I I've seen things like that. Yeah. It's
[00:53:20] Jamon Fries:
we'll see. And it the it's starting it's the starting price is gonna be around $41 for it.
[00:53:27] Jesse Fries:
$4.04 41?
[00:53:30] Jamon Fries:
Yes. 41 for a tiny ass little vehicle. Jesus.
[00:53:38] Jesse Fries:
Nobody's gonna spend 41,000. You you know, at least it's late, with their small truck. It's just bare bones, and it's it's, like, slightly over 20,000. You know? It's in the twenties, at least. You know? Twenties is reasonable for for a vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. 40 for a tiny ass truck?
[00:53:58] Jamon Fries:
I know less that thing's got wings and can fly me out of, can fly me out of out of out of traffic jam. No way in hell.
[00:54:07] Jesse Fries:
That's even a smaller bed than Yeah. Regular would. It's like the slate is a regular size. Yeah. Yeah. The slate is regular sized bed.
[00:54:17] Jamon Fries:
Right. Yeah. No. I mean, in the picture that I see it here, the the guy standing next to it, very average guy. He's he's not he's a slim guy. He's not, you know, big or anything like that. And I'd say if you laid him down sideways, you could maybe put three of them in the truck in the bed. So yeah. No.
[00:54:40] Jesse Fries:
That is interesting. That is interesting. Well Yep. Yeah. A lot of these things won't fly, plain simple. You know? Yeah. There's some that will, I think, and then they'll probably bought out by the big boys.
[00:54:54] Jamon Fries:
Yep. And and, you know, if if the price if the starting price were much lower Oh, yeah. It it might be it might it would be something that's reasonable. No. I agree. I agree. Yeah.
[00:55:07] Jesse Fries:
41. That that that's quite steep just for a small little thing. It's not Yep.
[00:55:12] Jamon Fries:
For a small little thing that really all you can use it for, it essentially think SUV except not covering the back. Right. So you can put you could maybe put a pallet into it. You could, you know, did you it'll work for, like, groceries and stuff like that. Mhmm. But if you're hauling anything of size, it's not gonna work at all. Right. Right.
[00:55:37] Jesse Fries:
They've only raised 20,000,000. There's not that much, especially Yeah. Trying to get a factory going. That's, like, not really all that much. You know? So, yeah, good luck to him. Let's see how it goes. But, I think it's a bit steep on, initial. Just saying.
[00:55:54] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I agree completely.
[00:55:57] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Ryan Ruth. Do you remember who he is? Rouse? Yes.
[00:56:02] Jamon Fries:
If I remember right, he's the one from the the tried to assassinate Trump at the golf course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was found guilty on all charges.
[00:56:12] Jesse Fries:
And then he stabbed himself in the neck with a pen in the court. Yeah. Yeah. Did he survive? Yeah. He survived. He survived. Okay. They got to him real quick. He wasn't yeah. Unfortunately, his daughter was there and saw the whole thing. It's just she was like, dad, don't hurt yourself. You know? Yeah. He said, we love you dad. And, yeah, it's it's rough. It's rough. You know? It's
[00:56:39] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know, but He's probably gonna spend the rest of his time life in jail, though. But Yeah. To me though, that just shows that he doesn't think about other people at all again. Right. Right. Right. Because if he if he was concerned about his daughter, he wouldn't have done it in front of his daughter. Right. Committing suicide in front of your family or in front of another person will irreparably change that person. Oh, completely.
[00:57:10] Jesse Fries:
Completely. Yeah. Yep. Yep. There's another one.
[00:57:16] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I've got an yeah. Absolutely. Uh-huh. So I've got an interesting story that if used properly, would be awesome. Mhmm. But it's way too you too easy to use it improperly. So there there's a there's a project Orbn that started up by a, company somewhere over in Europe. I think it was, I can't remember which country they're based out of. Mhmm. But, essentially, what it does is utilizing extremely, extremely powerful satellites that can see through all cloud cover and everything else like that. So Okay. There is nothing that can't be seen Uh-huh. That's going on on Earth. They're building a digital Earth Okay. Essentially, that has it can be used in positive ways. For example, training the autonomous cars.
Right. Instead of relying just on the sensor within the car, it could be patched in to this, to this other to this, basically second world that's all digital. Uh-huh. And it would be able to see all of the traffic around it. Oh, okay. Lot real time. So this in I mean, so everything happens in real time. Right. And so, you know, this this could be very helpful for, like, you wouldn't necessarily need to have a helicopter close by to track a criminal that's on the run.
[00:59:10] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:59:11] Jamon Fries:
You could just have the satellite zone in and and track him and lead the police to him. Yeah. Or to track your wife, you know? Exactly. Yeah. Which which is where it goes to the wrong place. Right. Exactly. You could you could also this could also be utilized with, in training for military operations and then being able to, in real time, adjust those operations because someone was where they weren't supposed to be or something
[00:59:41] Jesse Fries:
like
[00:59:41] Jamon Fries:
that. So these are these are the kind of things that some people would say are are good uses of it. And and so, you know but it also has areas that would be very questionable. For example, voyeurism. Right. Yep. For example, people that are vocal dissidents against the gover again, that are against the government Right. Would be able to be their every movement tracked. You would be able to see exactly who they communicate, exactly who they you know, it it would it would really fine tune the police state.
[01:00:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Like like like Britain's digital ID now that they're trying to come up with.
[01:00:31] Jamon Fries:
Yep. So, you know, it it has some good aspects to it that if you can find a way to make sure that it's limited to only that, I wouldn't be so against it. But the fact that it can be used in the in the wrong way is for so many situations Right. I am completely against it.
[01:00:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. 100%. 100%. There there's no way. No. Privacy.
[01:00:56] Jamon Fries:
I'm sorry. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:00:59] Jesse Fries:
No. No. You you you you go in your backyard and it's spying on you? No. Thank you. Yeah. I don't need this. Yeah. No. Absolutely not. Yeah. Not a fan. Not a fan. No? It's, it could be used in so many bad ways.
[01:01:15] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They've already got the satellites up in the air, though. Of course, they do. Of course, they do. Yeah. Right now, they've they've got the satellites up now. They're just working on the technology of developing the synthetic reality world.
[01:01:34] Jesse Fries:
Fun. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on a good note, apparently, you you you you heard about the how we're, like, killing off so many species every year and everything like that? And Yeah. Yes. It's just going, like, exponentially. We're we're we're Oh, yeah. It's just huge extinction events, everything. So Yeah. Like that. Yada yada yada. Well, guess what? It's not happening. It's actually getting better. They've actually looked across the past five hundred years, and extinctions have actually been rare. Less than 2% of birds and mammals genre, have disappeared.
Other groups such as fish, insects, and plants, are even lower than that. And this is at a very this is a very low level. Right. In comparison to what normal extinctions actually happen. Yeah. Since, since 1500, only a 102, plants or animals have gone extinct worldwide.
[01:02:44] Jamon Fries:
That's actually a lot lower than than what I expected from what we what you hear about everything. Right? Right? They they they keep saying, oh, we just killed a 100,000
[01:02:53] Jesse Fries:
in the Amazon Forest or something like that. Right? Yeah. Most extinctions, about 76%, happen on islands, and it's most of the time actually due to invasive species. Yeah. So so think about, like, those flying carp and everything like that in on the Mississippi that that that they're trying to get into that we're trying to stop from getting into the Great Lakes. You know? It's, because or the lionfish down the Caribbean. You know? It's,
[01:03:24] Jamon Fries:
Honestly, humans the the human impact on other species, the biggest impact we have is not the climate. It's not the fact that we're terraforming. It's not any of that. Yeah. It's the fact that we bring in species that do not belong there. Yeah. Whether intentionally or unintentionally.
[01:03:45] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. You know? It it's like North America did not have dandelions Nope. Until some lady wanted to bring a sense of home with her from Europe. Yeah. And now they're freaking everywhere. Now you can't escape them. You can't escape them. You know? Yeah. Exactly. Apparently, the extinction rates, they peaked in the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds, but then declined. Okay. Across fish, insects, plants, genius genus extinctions remain extremely rare. But yeah. So it's not it's not as bad as you think it is. This is what I always like to I I it's one of my whole things, you know. It's not as bad as you think it is.
And if you let yourself go down rabbit holes on how bad things are going to be, If you just think of the negatives, you end up with what we're dealing with right now with all these Oh, yeah. Big time. People. Yep.
[01:04:52] Jamon Fries:
And on the lighter side, in my final story, do you have any more? No. That's all I got. Okay. So have you heard of any of the rule differences between Canadian football the Canadian Football League and the NFL?
[01:05:10] Jesse Fries:
No. Except they have to say a at the end of everything. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:05:15] Jamon Fries:
Okay. Well, one of one of the differences that I've always noticed is they put the field goal at the front of the end zone instead of the back of the end zone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is stupid, but okay. It it really is. But I think I finally know why. Why? I did not know this. But in the Canadian Football League, if you are trying for a field goal Uh-huh. If you miss the field goal, but the ball goes all the way through the end zone before it hits the ground Uh-huh. You get a point. What? Yes. They they they are in the process of trying to phase it out. They're expecting it to be gone with the next couple of years. But as of right now, if you miss the field goal as long as it goes all the way through the field, you still get a point.
[01:06:13] Jesse Fries:
Just because you kicked it?
[01:06:15] Jamon Fries:
Just because you kicked it far enough to go through the end zone.
[01:06:19] Jesse Fries:
So extra 10 yards. Congratulations. Yeah.
[01:06:29] Jamon Fries:
I I saw that there there there was a game that it was it was tied 19 to 19 Uh-huh. With, like, there was literally zero time left on the clock, and they're they're kicking the field goal. So there must have been a penalty or something like that. Right. Or wait. No. No. I think it's yeah. Fourth fourth quarters that has the zero zero, but then next to it, it has zero seven. So I'm assuming one of them is the play countdown, and I'm assuming that would be the zero seven one. Okay. Well, no. It could be the zero zero. If it was hiked before it hit zero, then it just hit zero.
So it could be that there it could be that there was seven seven seconds on the clock. I can't really tell based on looking at it which one is the clock and which one is the, how the amount of time that you have to do the play within. Right. But yeah. So game is essentially over. It's gonna go into overtime. But then they kick a field goal, he misses it, but it got all the way through the end zone, so he got a point anyways. That is crazy. It's so insane.
[01:07:35] Jesse Fries:
It's like it's like, I don't care if you make it. Just kick it as hard as you possibly can.
[01:07:42] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, that that would be what you would do. Yeah. You know what I mean? Could you imagine an NFL kicker that didn't have to aim at the field goals? How far away could play they place that freaking ball? They can already do a 60 yard they could already do a 60 yard field goal. No problem.
[01:08:01] Jesse Fries:
I I I've seen pretty, what, last I think the longest is 67.
[01:08:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know? And that's just And that's when you're aiming for that short little distance of width. Exactly. But if you just So you're not putting your all into it for sure.
[01:08:16] Jesse Fries:
Just boot it. Yeah. It could be at the one yard line. Your your own one yard line. Yep. If it goes through, you're good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. Well, and with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us for episode 65 of the Minus Me Erens podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you all on Monday, 1PM.
Late Start
Trump at the UN: Teleprompter off, speech goes long
Government shutdown brinkmanship
Union strikes, back pay, and labor economics
From politics to pop culture: Kimmel’s return and ratings
Sports kerfuffle: Mets announcer vs. Cubs player’s funeral
Dallas ICE shooting, rhetoric, and policy vs. law
Secret Service busts SIM farms near the UN
International hacks: UK cyberattack and quick blame on Russia
Denmark’s burqa ban and a debate over veils
Quick break, then on to business news
Value-for-value spiel and live show housekeeping
Big Tech and speech: YouTube reinstatements and censorship
Courtroom drama: Ryan Routh’s verdict and self-harm incident
All-seeing satellites and the privacy nightmare
Extinction alarm checked: New data on species loss
CFL quirks: The single point for a missed field goal
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