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A roaming conversation between brothers covering Tariffs, fake stick shift, EU lawfare, and more.

Hosted by:

- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:21) Introduction

(00:01:00) Trump Tariffs and Economic Implications

(00:05:01) Free Trade vs. Tariffs Debate

(00:10:00) Whiskey Preferences and Cultural Differences

(00:12:13) Signal Chat and Political Scandals

(00:17:00) Inheritance Tax and Wealth Distribution

(00:24:00) AI's Impact on the Workforce

(00:33:04) Labor Department and COVID Funds

(00:38:06) Political Filibusters and Democratic Strategies

(00:47:04) Trump's Legal Battles and Court Decisions

(00:54:01) International Sports and Gender Policies

(01:00:21) Hate Crime Hoaxes and Social Tensions

(01:08:14) Generational Shifts and Social Commentary

(01:13:00) Wisconsin's Voter ID Law Amendment

(01:24:24) EU Politics and Right-Wing Parties

(01:30:03) Tech News: Zelle and Financial Apps

(01:34:26) Space Station Cleanliness and Health

(01:36:03) Ford's Electric Cars and Stick Shift Feature

Show Notes:
https://mindlesssea.com/show-notes-tarrif-day-er-i-mean-liberation-day/

[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everyone. It is Wednesday,   April 2, and we are live with episode number 31 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Fries, and welcome to TTD,   Trump tariff day. Woo hoo.  

[00:00:36] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries where I yeah.   Damn it. You beat me to it. But, yeah, happy Liberation Day.  

[00:00:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Whatever the fuck that means.  

[00:00:49] Jamon Fries:

I don't know who the hell came up with Liberation Day for for   Trump tariffs, but,   I don't know.  

[00:00:56] Jesse Fries:

To just be prepared for prices to go up is all I'm saying.  

[00:01:01] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:01:03] Jesse Fries:

So he hasn't announced it yet. Right? I don't think that's been fully announced yet, so the tariffs aren't in effect yet from There's nothing on x about it Is it as of yet. So Okay. I'm assuming it hasn't happened yet. I heard he's gonna do something on the Rose Garden. And once he signs or says it, then the tariffs go into effect is from what I understand. So,  

[00:01:27] Jamon Fries:

tariffs. I don't know. I   it it it it You know, I I just it it I get fed up with all of the   miss   not really misinformation. I mean, it is, but not really misinformation,   but the misunderstanding   that the media seems to have about what tariffs are.   Well,   right. I I the the reason I say that is I I was watching some stuff last night,   and some of the new and one of the news stations, their reporter said   that tariffs   were a tax that American companies   pay   to bring things into The US.   What?   Well   well well oh oh, okay. Okay.  

[00:02:19] Jesse Fries:

Maybe.   As in I mean like an import company.   A US import company may   have to pay more   for but no. No. The No. Just stupid.  

[00:02:32] Jamon Fries:

The the import the import company   yeah. The import company may end up having to pay us slightly higher price,   but the tariff is actually on the is against the company   that is overseas   that is sending things here.   No. Actually, it's It's it's not it's  

[00:02:56] Jesse Fries:

because what it is, it's   it's a tax that is put on as it comes in.   Okay?   So the but the company that   is sending it there just passes that along anyways. So it's just Right.   And so, basically, it's a way to make us buy American. It's basically what the whole concept is. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's it's the concept of it is to  

[00:03:23] Jamon Fries:

to strengthen the,   industrial complex of America.  

[00:03:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That that that's what he's that's what he that's why he's doing it. He wants to build up the   our factory, our manufacturing, and everything like that. That's what he wants to do.  

[00:03:38] Jamon Fries:

And it is stop other countries. Just the and even just the threats of it is working in some cases. I mean, there's been a lot of companies that have announced that they're gonna start productions   here in The US rather than doing them overseas.   Oh, yeah. Which, I mean,   you know, that's   that means more jobs here. That's what we want.  

[00:04:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Especially, like, car companies and whatnot.   Yeah. I know the car the 25%   tariff on the cars,   that one right now, it it still doesn't affect NAFTA or the what the USMCA.   It still actually doesn't affect that yet.   Yeah.   But he wants   the USMCA   to go away. So,   I don't know. I don't know. It it it it's funny with the Canada One. They're they're going crazy up there. I think it's all political, of course, for their elections that are coming up.   But, also, you know, it's like the only thing that our people can really point to is, like, their dairy. And I'm like, oh, okay. So we're doing a whole war for one industry in The United States. Okay.  

[00:04:45] Jamon Fries:

Sure. Yeah.  

[00:04:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I I   it it's odd in my book, but, you know, and tariffs   see, the my problem is is that   I grew up   during the era of where we wanted free trade because it makes things cheaper and everything like that. This is what we wanted.   And so   it it's hard for me to,   like,   be completely for Trump's tariffs. I understand why he's doing it.   And Mhmm. From, like, a national security aspect, I think it's important to actually do.   Yeah. Because if we don't have manufacturing,   if we go to war,   we won't be able to manufacture what we need.  

[00:05:26] Jamon Fries:

Yes. There there are certain industries that we do need to have strong here in The US. Yeah. That we that we need that we need I mean, you know, it's it's like computer chips.   Yep. Yep. You know,   China can cut off our computer chips, like, quite literally right now almost.  

[00:05:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, actually, most of them are from Taiwan.   So  

[00:05:48] Jamon Fries:

Yes. But the the minerals all come from China. Right. And China will refuse China has   announced a long time ago that they were going to refuse to to to export those minerals  

[00:06:01] Jesse Fries:

to anyone that was going to use them to send to to something to The US. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you see, it this is exactly how it works. And and, see, what's funny is that they they call them rare earth elements or minerals, but they're not really rare. It's just that we don't mine them. That's the only reason why we We have a lot of we have a lot of them here in The US. It's just  

[00:06:22] Jamon Fries:

it's all on,   federal protected land, and   the government doesn't let anybody mine it.  

[00:06:30] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. Right. But we could if we wanted to, you know. And there's some that are starting to   be built and everything like that. But yeah. Well, it's what, that's because  

[00:06:40] Jamon Fries:

one thing that I heard was that   that the Trump White House has   done something now that   basically opens up a lot of those a lot of those rare earth metals to mining now. They're gonna let they're gonna start letting the letting mining happen.  

[00:07:00] Jesse Fries:

That makes sense. Makes sense. They're they're yeah. So  

[00:07:04] Jamon Fries:

that that would be really cool. But, you know, the the biggest problem that I have with everything, you know, you you would just tell they talk about free trade and how we shouldn't have tariffs and all that other stuff. Right.   Free trade is only free trade if it works both ways.   If they have tariffs on us No. It's not free trade.  

[00:07:23] Jesse Fries:

Completely. No. I I I 100% agree with you on that one. And it's the it's like, what is it? Xi Jinping, he recently   got   all his,   he he got a whole bunch of foreign companies to come, and he was, like, talking them up saying, come. Come. Come. You know, you know, come here. We we we we we we we need you guys. But Yeah. Which is funny because the Chinese, they have a massive history of being protectionist   Oh, insanely so. Yeah. Against foreign companies. So you go there, and then all of a sudden, they, like, squelch you out. You know? It's like Yeah.   GM went there. And then now they're being kinda, like, pushed aside,  

[00:08:03] Jamon Fries:

by  

[00:08:05] Jesse Fries:

the internal comp car companies being   subsidized,   and they're not being subsidized. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, why would you go into business in that situation   if you're gonna be screwed?   You know?   And during this whole talk where Xi Jinping was talking to these leaders, he goes, oh, the global order. We need to keep the global order. Yeah. That's a global order of putting tariffs on American goods   and demanding no tariffs on their goods.   Yes. That   that it's just what the EU is doing. It's what everybody is doing. They don't wanna pay tariffs to us, but they want Right. To charge us tariffs. You know? Yeah.  

[00:08:45] Jamon Fries:

And as long as they're gonna I I completely agree with Trump on this one. As long as they're gonna keep charging us tariffs, we have to tariff them back.  

[00:08:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I don't see a problem with that.  

[00:08:55] Jamon Fries:

No.   Unless if it's something that we just don't produce, but we're The United States Rouge. So we kinda produce everything. So Well, and if we if we don't, it wouldn't be hard for us to start producing it.  

[00:09:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. There there probably a year or two of pain, but that would be fine. Yeah. Yeah. Which which is exactly what Trump said. You know, there's gonna be some pain to start off with. But Yep. Yep. It's like In the long run, it's gonna it's gonna be good for us. Yeah. We don't need French or Italian wine. We have California.  

[00:09:24] Jamon Fries:

You know? And then now that we have massive local ones too. It's like Texas wine country.  

[00:09:30] Jesse Fries:

There there there California   wineries are actually opening spots here in Texas   out in Pittsburgh. Yeah. Just, just about two hours from us here in Fredericksburg.   Yeah. The because it's hill country. It's just it's Yep. Basically desert just like what what they want the wines to have and everything like that Oh, yeah. Yeah. With a little bit of rain. And, yeah, it's they're they're they're moving here. And so   yeah. So we don't need them. You know? They can go away.   We don't need Scotch. You know, we got bourbon. It's okay. Yeah. We're all good. Yep.  

[00:10:02] Jamon Fries:

We got bourbon. We got whiskey. What do we need Scotch for? Yeah.  

[00:10:06] Jesse Fries:

We don't need it.   Yeah. And nobody drinks the Canadian stuff anyways. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know.  

[00:10:13] Jamon Fries:

Canadian stuff is like water, man. Why would anybody drink it?  

[00:10:17] Jesse Fries:

It's something. It's it's a whiskey. Don't get me wrong. You know, I do the job, but it's not It's decent, but it it's not it's not,   it's no Jack Daniels. It's no Oh, I hate Jack Daniels. Why why did you pick, like, the worst freaking whiskey on the planet? I swear to God, dude. I I   I really hate Jack Daniels. I don't know why. It's just there there's a taste to it Yeah.  

[00:10:41] Jamon Fries:

That to me is just horrible. It's just the Jack taste. There's just I just do not like it. Yeah. I don't like drinking it straight. If if I'm if I'm just to doing, like, a shot of whiskey, I do not do Jack.   Oh, okay. So you do, like, Jack and Coke and whatnot? Yeah. Yeah. I I I like I like the flavor of Jack when it's mixed with, sweet things.  

[00:11:03] Jesse Fries:

Got it. Got it. Yeah. I I   I rarely ever mix my whiskeys except for, like, cocktails and whatnot, like, like, like, old fashions and whatnot. Yeah. Every so often, like, maybe once a year, maybe twice a year, I might do a whiskey and Coke,   bourbon and Coke. Okay.   Yeah. I I I never keep Jack Daniels in the house. There's no way I'd do that. So Oh, yeah. It's a I think we actually might have some, but that was when my father-in-law came to town.   And when it comes to overseas, pretty much the only the main bourbon you can get is Jack. It it's Yeah. When it comes to overseas, you know, it's like just like beer. It's like Heineken and Guinness. That's what you find overseas.   So Okay.  

Yeah. You'll find some bats everywhere.   Well, Heineken, I like. I like Heineken. I've never had a problem with Heineken.   Goodness is alright. It's not the greatest in the world, but, you know, it's   it's alright. It's alright. I'll let you say, maybe it's no slip.   Yeah. Actually, it's  

[00:12:09] Jamon Fries:

I I agree I agree on that one. Yep.   Let's see here. What else do we oh, the signal chat kind of thing just kinda died out. You know, just like Yeah.  

[00:12:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's like, okay. Who cares?   And, you know, in all honesty, it's like,   you really   every administration   wants to hide   their internal talk and everything like that. Yeah. And they always get busted somehow. Every administration does. So this is this is Trump's administration getting busted. You know? That that that's,   that's about all I got on that one.  

[00:12:47] Jamon Fries:

So do you have anything on that, or is that about it? No. No. It it it just kind of seemed like a non story to me.  

[00:12:55] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It really did, you know.   Yeah. It it really seems like a non story to me as well. It it's   okay. Did anything bad happen from it? Nope. It wasn't the Benghazi.   You know? Yeah. Yeah. We did lose an ambassador or anything like that. So I   I I think it's fine. I really think it's fine. So Yeah.  

[00:13:18] Jamon Fries:

For for screw ups of a of an administration,  

[00:13:20] Jesse Fries:

it's a very minor one compared to some of the others that have happened not Yeah. Not too long ago past. And I think it's been blown out of proportion just so they can get rid of Hegseth. I think they really Oh, yeah. Get rid of Hegseth. And Yeah.   I I don't think he's going anywhere. So No.   Yep. Yep.  

[00:13:39] Jamon Fries:

No. He seems to be doing   at least a decent job.  

[00:13:43] Jesse Fries:

I I think so. I think so.   But related to that oh, I do have,   in there,   Vance and Hegseth were talking about EU and how they how much they kind of hate the EU.   Yeah.   Basically,   in the chats,   they said that the   what was it? The chats did not let the e the well, the chats let the EU know what America means when we say we are sick of supporting them.   You you know, it's   that's what they that's what it does. You know? It's like Vance, he said, I I just hate bailing Europe out again.   And then he went on to say three only 3% of US trade runs through the Suez.   Meanwhile, 40% of the European trade   does. Yeah. So the Houthis, they're they're causing us a they're they're they're, like, scratching us or something like that with their issue, but it's the Europeans that are screwed if the Suez goes.  

And then Hexeth responded by, I fully share your loading of European freeloading. It's pathetic. You know? It's   Yeah.   It is. And then they come back to us and complain about us and, how we don't have free health care or whatnot. You know? Yeah.   Yeah. Even though they don't either, really. Just saying. No. I I I've looked I've looked at the EU health care systems.   Most of them aren't free. Only The UK isn't. They pay lots of taxes. So Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:15:11] Jamon Fries:

Lot of taxes.   I know that's, like, I I watched a story where, this guy was complaining about   how   the inheritance   tax and stuff like that, how the rich people weren't weren't paying it   Uh-huh. Weren't paying   nearly as much as they should. Oh, yeah. And   the the   he was specifically bringing up one of the European lords,   who, of course, has no income because he's a lord, so he doesn't actually   do a productive job, so he has no income.  

[00:15:50] Jesse Fries:

Oh, so it's all passive. Like, the property he owns sends money to him and so on and so forth. Okay.  

[00:15:57] Jamon Fries:

And   the this guy is is comparing his 60%   income tax   to a point 6%   inheritance   tax every year.  

[00:16:14] Jesse Fries:

Point six inheritance tax every year?  

[00:16:17] Jamon Fries:

What Yes. Every year, he has to the the this lord's   land   has to pay point 6%   of its total value   in taxes.  

[00:16:29] Jesse Fries:

Well, that seems like more than the 60% than the other guy would have to pay. Much more.   Yeah. So so  

[00:16:38] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Okay.   I it's   I I mean, you know, okay. So you're paying taxes   on your income.  

[00:16:47] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:16:49] Jamon Fries:

He's paying taxes on every single fucking thing he owns.  

[00:16:55] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a bit of a difference there. And then, you know, it's like if if that tax is too high, he would have to sell it all. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Without a doubt. Be because you have to have enough incoming to actually be able to pay for that.   Yes. You know, that that's the problem with a a lot of actual inheritance taxes is that it they tax people to the point where they have to sell the house. They have to sell the property.   Yeah. Because they can't pay the taxes on it without selling it. Yeah.  

[00:17:24] Jamon Fries:

So Absolutely.  

[00:17:26] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And then it would just be changing hands left and right. Every year, it'd be changing hands. That probably belongs to they   it just we go down the line.  

[00:17:35] Jamon Fries:

Well well, you know, the the thing that that I found amusing about that is   as an individual,   if you if you pay inheritance tax   Uh-huh. You pay one lump sum on everything you you inherit.  

[00:17:48] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:17:50] Jamon Fries:

This lords the the way that Europe does it with the with the ultra wealthy and stuff like that with the lords   is they   literally are paying this tax   on the same proper on the same thing every year.   Uh-huh.   It's a property tax. It's not an inheritance tax.  

[00:18:10] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:18:12] Jamon Fries:

But they call it an inheritance tax for some reason.  

[00:18:17] Jesse Fries:

That is kinda odd that the   yeah. It's more of a property or just a   a wealth tax.   Yeah. As in just, this is how much wealth you have, so you have to pay this much in taxes and anything like that. So Yep. Some people wanna do that here in The United States as well. They wanna put, like, a wealth tax on, like, Musk or something like that. Yeah.   Which would mean that he couldn't invest into those companies and so on and so forth, that amount of money. And Yeah.   Especially   for for him, he seems to basically just constantly be, like, throwing money back into the company and everything like that. He doesn't Mhmm. Or his girlfriends. He just buys off his girlfriends that have babies with him too, apparently. Yeah. So it's a like like that one conservative chick, the the, like, the   thirteenth child or something like that. Apparently,   this girl, she was cons she's a conservative,   something. I don't know.  

Okay. But, basically,   she says that the baby's his. He's taking a couple pictures of with this baby. He he he never says that it's his.   But then he gave her, like, $2,500,000   and then is paying her, like, $500,000   a year.   Oh, wow. For the baby. So yeah. At least this is what the story I saw, right, or so Yeah. It's Yeah. So, yeah, it's like   so beyond paid off his, baby mamas. Yeah. You know, generally, his money goes   back into the company. Into the company. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I had to remember where I was going with that. Yep. Yep.   Yeah.  



[00:19:56] Jamon Fries:

Well, talking about him, you know, I I   I watched a little short video. I,   you know, they they were complaining, but I don't really see what the complaint is. I don't I don't really see   well, I okay. I see where the where the complaint is, but I don't see what's wrong with it. So they were talking about Elon Musk's purchase of x   Uh-huh.   And how   he didn't actually   spend any money to buy x   Right. Is what they say. Uh-huh.   Well,   he did what everyone else with money does. You have shares in a company. You borrow against those shares.   Right. And then you spend that money.  

Right. That that's No. That's But but they but they said it as if that was money that he's if he didn't have to spend money to buy x. And I'm like, he has to pay those loans back or else you lose the Tesla shares.   Well, you see,  

[00:20:57] Jesse Fries:

yeah. Basically, he was just trading things. You know? He was just trading this for this. He doesn't actually have lump sums of cash hanging around. He Right.   These billionaires don't. They may have, like, a few hundred billion or hundred million   in actual cash. Maybe not even a few. Maybe just, like, a hundred million or something just for Yeah. But  

[00:21:19] Jamon Fries:

maybe even less than that. But, generally, most of their wealth is in stock options, property, land, this. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's it's not it's it's not listed with cash. Money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would be stupid to let the to let the cash just sit in the bank account.  

[00:21:35] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. It's like, Bill Gates. He's the largest farmer   in The United States.   You know? It's so   it's it is not a surprise. No. That that that's that's just how business is done. But people just wanna complain because, well, people wanna complain. You know? It's a Yeah. Yeah. And actually, what? X was now bought now   by XAI or something like that? Yes. Another one of his companies. So, basically, he's just playing a shell game of some sort.   You you know, it's like, well, let's see where this one ends up. You know? It's,  

[00:22:06] Jamon Fries:

Well, what my my what my thinking on that maybe is that,   up until now, I think   x was just under his own name.  

[00:22:16] Jesse Fries:

Well, it was, but it was also   done with   financing.   Yes. People did he did have loans on it. So, possibly, this was a way to basically pay those people back.   Oh, yeah.   And   x really with Grok and and everything like that, it really has been going down the AI route anyways. So Yes. It has. Yeah. Big time.   So it kinda I could see where it's going, but   I just kind of find it funny. It's like, okay. Sure. Why not? It's Yep.   Yep. Oh, speaking of Bill Gates,   apparently, he says that, teachers and doctors and most professionals will be obsolete in ten years.   Just completely obsolete.  

We won't need them because AI will take care of teaching us and treating us as doctors. So  

[00:23:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I don't see that   well, I mean, the way doctors are right now, it really wouldn't be the much difference between AI and the doctors.  

[00:23:27] Jesse Fries:

There really wouldn't be. Right. They're just basically just,   pill pushers, most of them. So it's Yeah.   That's all they do.   Surgeons and whatnot, of course, are different.  

[00:23:37] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yeah. Well, not really. I mean, well, let's see that that with surgery and stuff, I mean, it's it's   a lot of surgery is done by   is done by AI and robotics now.  

[00:23:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Some of it is. Yeah. It's getting more there.   I personally, I don't care. This is fine. Yeah. No. Me either. Yeah. Yeah. So but it begs the question.   Do you think it's like because   some experts think that, AI will help humanity,   become more efficient,   rather than replacing   us altogether,   And this will spur economic growth.   But in the other on the other side, some people think that   the technological   advances over this next several years will change, that most jobs,   what jobs look like across every industry and will have a hugely destabilizing   impact on the workforce.  

Which which way do you think is it good for the workforce, bad work for the workforce?   How do you view  

[00:24:38] Jamon Fries:

it? I I think   let me see.   Throwing me on the spot here. Damn it. I know. I I I it just   I honestly,   I think that   it will,   I think it'll improve   the quality   of the workforce.  

[00:25:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:25:04] Jamon Fries:

Much like with surgeries and stuff like that, the ones that are the ones that are being assisted with AI are those that are very   intricate.  

[00:25:13] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Intricate,  

[00:25:14] Jamon Fries:

very fine detail is necessary,   like eye surgery and stuff like that. You know, they they they let the computer control where the laser goes. It's not a person   waving the laser around the eye.   Yeah. But I wouldn't still trust that. Even the eye doctor Well, no. No. I mean don't wanna do that. No. No. But it's Those surgeries are still very,   very iffy to be. But, you know Yeah. I don't wanna be blind. But that's the type of thing that AI will help the industries with, is it'll help with   so as as computer chips get smaller, as all this app happens,   without the fine tune   quality control that AI can provide,   it would be impossible for us to advance anywhere.  

I guess that I I think there's still going to be industries that people work, like the automotive industry and stuff like that.   Automotive industry and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But it's mostly gonna be your boat the the job is mostly going to be for the manual from the manufacturing side, the job is going to be controlling the computers that are doing the work.  

[00:26:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see that. A a lot of manufacturing now is using just those robotics anyways.   Yes. So they'll just get more and more so probably. But Yeah.   Yeah. There will still always be some I think there'll always be some aspect of human   involvement.  

[00:26:37] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yes. Abs absolutely.   You it because   if not,   it   would   the the I mean, all all it takes is one little   part going bad   and nothing that AI does can do anything.  

[00:26:54] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:26:56] Jamon Fries:

So you're always going to need the human touch there. You're always going to need the human just, I mean, even even just the human eye can   can it doesn't necessarily pick up something that that that the that AI couldn't,   but  

[00:27:13] Jesse Fries:

it can see things in a different way. Oh, yeah. Completely. Yeah. You know, it can find more cancer and whatnot than,   the regular doctor can and everything like that. So, yeah, it makes sense to me. My view is it's kind of a mixed bag in between the two.   Mhmm. It will spur economic growth just like the industrial   industrial revolution did. But also at the same time, it'll be hugely destabilizing   to society   as we actually try to figure that out.   But when it comes to any massive revolution, like, throughout history   Yeah. It it's like like like the printing press and everything like that,   these led to huge   massive destabilizing   of governments.  

Some governments survive. Some governments do not survive.   Yep.   You know, and we're going through that right now. And you can see that with this   stability issues that we're having right now, it's like it seems like a lot of these   governments are wanting to control everything that is said online and everything like that to the point where you can't have any discussion.   Yeah. And   that can lead to destabilizing   factors,   you know, and everything like that. So you   both the people and the governments are trying to figure out how to do this.   And  

[00:28:34] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I think that the I think one of the one of the complications of this is gonna be   is that the workforce will be minimalized   in many cases,   where when AI's come when AI comes in,   you   you won't need you know, I mean, like,   right now, you've got AI doing artwork that's being sold. You've got   AI writing books. I mean, I I don't   I don't know how many times I've heard of authors that use AI to write books.  

[00:29:07] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. And most of the books on Amazon, from what I understand, are just the AI written, you know. So Oh, yeah. They are. But, like, in their for their Kindle and everything like that. Yeah. It's Yep. Horrible.  

[00:29:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And so   those people that used to have that those jobs, the writing jobs,   they're now either utilizing AI   to actually do the jobs for them   or they've had to find something else to do.  

[00:29:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:29:38] Jamon Fries:

And the problem that I the problem that where I see the problem comes with this   is   if you if you added in a lot of other instable   things   like,   the the, acts of vandalism against Tesla and stuff like that. Uh-huh. How much of that is because these people are just so freaking bored because they don't write their own books   and stuff like that   that   they need to do something to to kill that boredom?  

[00:30:13] Jesse Fries:

That's that's a interesting idea on that one. Yeah. It   it's yeah. There is a lot of boredom there.   But then a lot of these people that   not I'm not saying, like, the people that are actually,   like, burning shit down or anything like that, but I like Right.   A lot of the pro actual protesters are actually paid for. You know? They have Oh, yeah. Yeah. Signs and things like that. You know? So   no. The people that are firebombing and things like that, those are just crazies. You know, in my book. So it's,  

[00:30:45] Jamon Fries:

But   according to some things that I've heard, a lot of them are getting money for doing it. They're being funded to do it.   To firebomb?  

[00:30:55] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   I don't know. Dude, I don't know. I   places. Yeah.   I I I I've seen those rumors online and everything like that, but I I   I I haven't seen anything that I actually believe.  

[00:31:09] Jamon Fries:

You know what I mean? I I saw I saw see this I saw supposed stories, but I saw a discussion   on Fox News with the where they were interviewing Trump.   Or not Trump, where they were interviewing Musk.   Uh-huh. And   they one person asked him asked about that.   And   Trump was like   or, I mean, Musk was like, yeah. So we know that there are generals behind this, and we know who those generals are.   And   the government will be going after them.  

[00:31:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. I I   I I don't trust statements like that until   something actually gets   happen.   Yeah. Like like something actually does happen, like, they actually do go for somebody, you know. Because, generally,   it's all political crap in my book, especially when you just spell out things like that. It's like, good. Okay. Where's the proof? You know, it's  

[00:32:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, I I I must said yeah.   Musk said that Trump had has Trump and his administration have said we are going after them. So whether it happens or not, who knows? Well, I know they're going after the people that are actually doing it.  

[00:32:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. But if there's a cabal behind it, I I that that, I don't know. You know, there might be. But,   I don't put anything past humanity, but, also, I'm skeptical   when people   think that there's cabals behind everything. So Oh, yeah. No. It's it's kinda how I work. Yeah. It's,   I know we're all fucked up, but then we also   I I know that we   also are not at the same time, and so it's hard to Yeah. Parse,   which way it goes. So  

[00:32:52] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   It really is.  

[00:32:56] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Okay. What's what else we got?  

[00:33:04] Jamon Fries:

Well,   staying in the   staying in the government zone and Trump and all that other stuff. Uh-huh.   The labor department   has,   so far, they've,   brought   they they've reclaimed,   like, $1,300,000,000.   They're going for another 2 point something.   They're they're going for a total of   of $4,300,000,000   they think that they can return to the taxpayers.  

[00:33:38] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:33:40] Jamon Fries:

This is because   they found   that   do you remember back during COVID   where the,   federal government set aside a fund to help the states pay unemployment taxes and unemployment and stuff like that?  

[00:33:58] Jesse Fries:

There was a lot.   So I can't I I don't remember that precisely. No. But I yeah. Don't doubt it.  

[00:34:06] Jamon Fries:

That fund is still there   even though   there hasn't been as the and there there are still 10 states that   are collecting from it, but   none of those 10 states actually fit the   the   conditions   of being able to pull from it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:34:29] Jesse Fries:

The whole thing of where   some   local government state, whatever,   they're using the funds for something else. They go, oh, we have all this money sitting here. Let let let's use it for this side project over here or that side project over there. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.  

[00:34:43] Jamon Fries:

Mhmm.   Well, the, the the the labor department has,   has   they've,   they've got 1,400,000,000.0   right now   of unspent COVID funding that will be returned through   to taxpayers   through the US Department of Treasury's   general fund.   Uh-huh. Now I'm not sure if that means that we're that they're going to be sending checks out or if they're what I don't know how they're gonna do that, but they say they're returning the money to the taxpayers.  

[00:35:18] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:35:19] Jamon Fries:

And   they they've so they've got 1,400,000,000   now.   And then   they're   still trying to recover the last of the the the last 2,900,000,000.0   out of it.   They're also going to try to get the states that   are not that wouldn't that weren't eligible to receive that money but did,   they're going to try to get the money back from those states.  

[00:35:46] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. Okay.  

[00:35:48] Jamon Fries:

So I'm not sure if I'm not sure if that's gonna mean, like, a one time check sent out to people or if it's just gonna be something internal in the government   that,   maybe they pay it pay our debt down or something like that with it. I don't know how it's all gonna work, but   they they say it's being returned to the taxpayers. So however they do however that works out, I have no idea.  

[00:36:11] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No clue on that one.   That just means it's being returned to the government. Generally, that's how that works. Yeah. It's a Yeah.   We've seen nothing of it. That's generally how it always works. You know? It's Yep.   Let's see here. Speaking of,   that sort of thing of, money and everything like that, you you know how Democrats always complain about Doge and everything like that? You know? It's Yes. It's like, oh my god. You know, but I just remembered. You know, it's just like Obamacare.   Okay? You know, affordable health.   What it is is that it takes the other party's ideas   and then enacts them.  

So Obamacare,   it was basically a Republican plan. It was like during the whole Clinton thing, this was the plan that the Republicans came up with. Well, it was for the affordable hair health care plan.   Yep. But then when Obama introduced it, it was a massive problem. The the Republicans hated it. And Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. They still hate it to this day.   But then, Doge,   it's the same thing that Democrats have been saying. Obama's was doing this. Like, Al Gore wanted to do this. Clinton said it. You know, they wanted to streamline the government. They wanted to bring down the cost. They wanted to do all this. But now that Trump's doing it, that's a bad thing. You know? Yeah. It's   come on, people.  

Wake up. You know? It's just crazy how that works. You know? It's,  

[00:37:35] Jamon Fries:

You know, I I think this is probably the one and only thing that if the Democrats would have done it, the Republicans would have been, you know, that's a good idea.  

[00:37:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. At least partially, the Republicans Well, at least at least outwardly, they would have said that. Yes. Yeah. It's like even under Republicans, the government just grows and grows and grows. There's it's just what it does. So Yep. Yeah. But but, you know, it's like but you can't beat, like, useless politicians   unlike Cory Booker.   Did you see this? Well, his stunt that he did?  

[00:38:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I saw a little bit about it. He he he filibustered  

[00:38:14] Jesse Fries:

for   for over a full day   for nothing. Like, there was no bill. He filibustered emptiness. He filibustered   nothing.  

[00:38:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:38:25] Jesse Fries:

What what is the point of this? Okay. So he's pissed off at Trump, but you're not, like, stopping anything he's doing.  

[00:38:33] Jamon Fries:

It it wasn't even I'd I'd honestly, I don't think it was even that he was that he was upset with Trump.  

[00:38:39] Jesse Fries:

Well, he's trying to show that he's doing something, but he's doing some not something for nothing. He's it's  

[00:38:46] Jamon Fries:

What he's doing is he's getting his name in the press because he now has the longest filibuster   ever   in in the in the senate, in in in the  

[00:38:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. I I I well, in history. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the fill filibuster only works in,   the senate.   Yeah. But there's no filibuster in the house.  

[00:39:08] Jamon Fries:

Right. So, right, I So stand up. But for the history of The United States, he now has the longest. He's a record setter. He's gonna get on the media. He's gonna be he's gonna be he's gonna be brought onto   media news stations   to talk. Right. This is But To me,   I I think that this is kind of his   I wouldn't be surprised. Now, I don't know if this was his planning or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised   if this was to be cut to get his name nationally known   so that he can run for a higher position.  

[00:39:44] Jesse Fries:

I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't doubt that at all. But I I think it's also there to he was trying to   show the rank and file Democrats   that a Democrat is doing something.   Because   because Democrats are in they're they're they're shit out of luck right now. They're they're they're Oh, yeah.   Their approval rating   is horrendous amongst Democrats.   Like like, they the Democrat rank of file, they want something done.   They they they I I don't know if they know what it is. They just have this whole resist thing, but   I I really don't think they know what   they want done. But some people are saying it might lead to, like, a Democratic Tea Party situation,   where it's like a populist movement within the government that might actually, like, completely revert the party   to something. I don't know what.  



[00:40:40] Jamon Fries:

The the   At least not anything that would help. So Yeah. From from what I've seen, the the biggest problem that a lot of the Democrats have with the Democrat party   is that they weren't able to stop Trump.   They're not they're not doing enough to stop Trump.  

[00:40:57] Jesse Fries:

Right.   And that was kind of the impetus for the Tea Party a little bit to stop Obama and Obamacare,   but   there there there's no alternative. It's like, what do you want   to stop? Do you want him them   do you want his   anti woke agenda stopped? Or do you want what what do you   because   anti woke,   that's where the society is going right now. We're we're we're going Oh, yeah. We're we're we're going away from that. Look at Snow White. What happened to that? You know? It's like   Yeah.   That that lady is not gonna be working anymore. I bet I swear to god, she is she she just went off the deep end,   that whatever her name is. I can't even remember what her name is.  

Her name is I only knew about her name because of her woke agenda that she keeps pushing and everything like that. But   you know? So I I don't know. May may   maybe the Democrats have an idea what they would want, but I I I'm not sure if they do. I think they're still trying to figure that out.   Yeah. Anti Trump isn't good enough if you ask me. You need a actual especially to win voters over. You need something beyond. Yeah.  

[00:42:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Oh, orange man bad. You know? So Well, you know, the I and the I think the reason that that the Democrats   are saying that they want you to stop Trump from what he's doing, it has nothing to do with what Trump's actually doing.   It's because all of every every problem goes back to   during the election well, it's actually for the four years,   basically, you heard about it for the four years of by of the   Biden administration   Uh-huh. Was how evil Trump is. So we have to stop Trump. No. I know. Yeah. Everything is stop Trump. That's the only reason that   that they're now in trouble because   they they got everybody   so fervently believing   that Trump was this evil   devil incarnate.  

Yep. Yep.   And they couldn't stop him.   They they've really let it take over their psyche. Like They have. Their their whole entire psyche, like, he is the worst. It's like,   Wil Wheaton. You you remember him. Right?   The name's familiar.   Crusher. He played Crusher on, Next Generation.   Oh, okay. Yeah. Well yeah. So  

[00:43:24] Jesse Fries:

I can't remember what his first name, but Crusher, you know, the kid. The Yeah. That was on there for a bit.   You know, it's like, generally, I like him. You know, he was on Big Bang Theory. He played himself and everything like that. Good rules and everything like that. But I just saw this post. I'm not sure if it's real. You you know how these posts go. But, basically, he from from it, it said   that he will never be able to forgive Trump voters.   You you know? It's like I know. Right? Exactly. It's like this was their opinion. This is what they wanted. It's like so many on that side,   they just   they hate. The hate is so   entrenched in them   Yeah. That that I I don't think they actually can even articulate   why beyond Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah.  



[00:44:13] Jamon Fries:

So that's that's   pretty much all I can guess. I don't Oh, yeah. Yeah.   It   nothing makes sense.  

[00:44:22] Jesse Fries:

It really doesn't. It it's like,   get into his policies. Do see what he's actually doing. It's it's like,   they they they keep saying that he's just not gonna obey the rule of law. But everything I've seen so far, he has been   doing what the courts say. Yes. There's that one where the flights and everything like that. You you you know, that was a bit of trickery here or there,   taking them down to El Salvador. But Yep.   To me, that's, like,   that's kinda iffy.   So a judge didn't like how they did it. But   since then, he hasn't sent any others.   You you know, so he he is doing what the judges   say. You know? Yeah.  

So I don't see but they say, oh, he he's gonna ignore the courts.   He's he's not ignoring the courts.   You know? So I I it's Yeah. The only the only  

[00:45:18] Jamon Fries:

the only place that   I would say maybe he's ignoring the court   is   involving   stuff where   the court has   no   jurisdiction   and no way to enforce anything.  

[00:45:35] Jesse Fries:

But it's just that one.  

[00:45:37] Jamon Fries:

Well well yeah. But I mean, it's like, so part I I believe it was part of that, but one of the guys that was sent down there, they think that   well, a lot of people are saying he wasn't actually part of that gang, and, you know,   he he left he left there to escape the gang by all the time. I I I I I I stuff.  

[00:45:54] Jesse Fries:

I I know the story. And   why did he have the tattoos?  

[00:45:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Just When when I saw him, I had all these tattoos, and they were the same tattoos that the gang members had. And I'm like, you know,   something's not adding up here. It's something it just because he hasn't been caught   doesn't mean he's not. You know? But it's so so a judge ordered that he be brought back to The US. But he can't be.   He's no longer in The US. Therefore, that judge has absolutely zero jurisdiction   to bring him back into The US.  

[00:46:29] Jesse Fries:

That's the argument, at least, that the justice department is doing. But but, you know, see, this is the thing. The justice department is still fighting the fight in court. It's not it's not that   the the it's a long process   Yep. That always gets   that   so many people are also on the right are upset that, the courts are just going against them and everything like that. Yeah. But but it's a slow process. It's like, Oh, it's a very slow process. Yeah. The what is it? The   District Of Columbia.   So the DC,   Court of Appeals   recently,   they sided with Trump.  

This was over   the labor unions and everything like that. He or the   labor   administration,   something like that. I can't exactly,   remember what it was. But, basically, the board that oversees   labor and everything like that, he fired everybody   on that board or the people that weren't doing what he wanted.   Yeah.   And the court said that he couldn't do that.   And then now an appeals court   said, yeah. He can.   And Yeah. So the that firing stands.   You know, it's quite an interesting   I'd love to read these things. You know? And it's quite an interesting thing. It really goes into the history   of why the president can just fire people he wants to fire. There there's no   and then also, like, the difference in between of   just because Congress   says   that it's an independent thing outside the president   doesn't actually mean that it's outside the executive order.  

No. Because the constitution   says only the president has executive power. It is solely under him.   Yeah. There's nothing else beyond that. It is solely under the president.  

[00:48:16] Jamon Fries:

Which and just just like the legislative   aspect is solely under the, oh, solely under the house and the senate. Uh-huh.   But because it's solely under them, they are the only ones also that can give that power away.   Right. So unless so if the president were to say,   we're going to follow the the Senate on what they want us to do with the hirings and the firings,   then, you know,   then the senate has a say in it. But if other than that, they don't have a say in it. No. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:48:50] Jesse Fries:

It's really fascinating what this   opinion really said. It actually went back to the history. It was like, Andrew Johnson,   the   guy right after Lincoln, the president right after Lincoln.   He fired the war,   secretary.   Secretary of war.   And and the senate didn't like that because the senate or   congress had passed a law saying that they could he couldn't fire anybody.   And so they impeached him. They actually impeached him.   The the senate,   acquitted him.   And then the Supreme Court later goes, yeah. That was an unconstitutional   law   because you're you're   you're you're going after the article two   of the constitution.  

So so you you can't do that. You know? And that's where it all comes down to is it's it's constitutional. Just because it's a law doesn't actually mean it's constitutional, doesn't mean that it's enforced.   That's right. And so on and so forth. And Yeah. That that's what we're getting to here. We're starting to it's things are starting to fully come into the courts and go up the courts. It takes time. Court court system is not a fast process.   Oh, no. No. It's a very slow, drawn out process. But Trump is using it unlike what many of his critics always say and everything like that. You know? It's,  

[00:50:11] Jamon Fries:

and he hasn't run any it's so amusing how how they how all of his critics are trying to trap his people into saying that they're ignoring the court orders.  

[00:50:20] Jesse Fries:

Right? Yeah. It there's nothing that says that they are. You know? It's Yeah. There is that one where the flight was in the air. It's like, well, what do you want me to do, dude? Yeah. I I'm sorry, man. You you know, it is those trickeries that every attorney uses anyways. Every,   attorney general uses this sorts of trickery and everything like that. So it's, like,   trickery in the system,   you know, that could be argued out, and we'll see how that goes. But he's not in my so that's one instance of possibly ignoring possibly ignoring.  

[00:50:54] Jamon Fries:

Is See, I don't even think it was. I I don't even think it was because as long as the flights were in the air,   the only way the only way legally, according, with the FAA,   to change the destination of a flight   is to declare an emergency.  

[00:51:12] Jesse Fries:

No. No. No. No. No.   That that doesn't matter. These are military flights.   It doesn't yes. So The FAA kick. And and and not only that, it wasn't even in The US skies. So it does I know. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:51:24] Jamon Fries:

I was just saying You know, that that's   yeah. That that's  

[00:51:28] Jesse Fries:

yeah. I I don't know. It it's just They weren't they weren't in The US anymore, so the US Judge has no say over it. Well, the the question actually comes in from what I understand is whether or not it's from when he verbally   gave the order or   released the written order. That's what Yeah. Because That that that's what the DOJ is arguing. It's like, we didn't have the written order to actually do this. Mhmm. And he goes, well, you don't need that. I just said so. And so  

[00:51:57] Jamon Fries:

yeah.   Well, and and that's that's one of the that's I think that's one of the things that needs to be   addressed with the with the legal system   is   verbal orders   to me   do not hold any sway.   It's  

[00:52:18] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It matters.   It's like a judge saying, oh, yeah. You have a,   you you have a warrant,   to a search warrant.  

[00:52:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You actually need to show the search warrant. Yes. You know? You need physical paper.  

[00:52:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You you you need to show me the  

[00:52:35] Jamon Fries:

search for me. You know what I mean? It's like, otherwise You you you have to be able to carry that piece of paper to me. Otherwise,   no way in hell am I letting somebody search my house without that piece of paper.   Yeah. Even if they say, well, a judge has given us a search order.   I'm like, so show it to me.   Exactly. Nothing is real until it's on in paper. Therefore,   to me, a judge's verbal order means next to nothing.   It's an accident.   Yeah. Yeah. Until it becomes a written   once it's written down, it becomes  

[00:53:06] Jesse Fries:

the rule. It becomes the law. No. I understand. I understand. Judges   but judges, they they they get kinda uppity.   Of course they do.   Because they have a lot of power.   So they don't like that power to be,   questioned or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. Questions. Definitely. That's,  

[00:53:29] Jamon Fries:

let's see here. What else we got? Do we have anything else political?   There's   going back to when you were talking about, the anti woke movement seems to be going around. Uh-huh.   Got a couple of interesting stories from that.   The the first one was I I found it last week, but didn't get into didn't get into it.   So   the   Nash the International Athletics Governing Body   Uh-huh.   Is now requiring   DNA tests for women's sports.  

[00:54:07] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   Okay. Interesting.  

[00:54:12] Jamon Fries:

So that should include the Olympics. It should include everything.  

[00:54:17] Jesse Fries:

Well, from our side, at least. Yeah. It's,   it's like that boxer, that female boxer in the Olympics that had, like, a x y chromosome and just beat the shit out of every girl. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it, holds sway,   at that level, but at least for us. Yeah. So Well, no. This this is the this is  

[00:54:38] Jamon Fries:

just the overall international Olympics governing body. The one that set all of the rules for in for international   active for international athletics.  

[00:54:48] Jesse Fries:

Oh, sweet.   Nice. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.   Yeah. Give women their space. Give men their space. And if there's a in between,   let them have their space. Otherwise,   it's   I I know it's frustrating for the individuals that, fall outside those categories.   I do understand this.   But   for the majority of people,  

[00:55:12] Jamon Fries:

you you you need to have these. You really do.   We can't we can't you can't make exceptions for a single individual   when it affects on a large pay on a large scale,   a large population.   Yep. Yep. Yep. It it it just can't you can't rule that way.  

[00:55:32] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. You know, it it it's like it's kinda like the opposite of, why we have our constitution. You know, majority   rules minority rights. You know, in this case, things have gotten to the point where   it's been minority rules,   majority rights. You you need Yeah. You need that, especially for protection. You know? It's like Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Some of these sports are, like, brutal, like boxing and things like that. Oh, yeah. It's like  

[00:55:58] Jamon Fries:

even basketball and everything like that. Look at one of the most violent sports out there, soccer.   Yep. Yep. Could you imagine   a guy playing soccer with girls?   Yeah. How Yeah. Bad would that field look?  

[00:56:13] Jesse Fries:

Well, they they they You'd have body parts laying all over the place almost. They they they've actually done this.   So they did, the US   female soccer team.   I think it was they played a high school  

[00:56:27] Jamon Fries:

men's team. Yes. And they got trounced badly.  

[00:56:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was high school.   Yeah. You know? So it it's like   there is a difference, plain and simple.   Oh, yeah. You you know, it's the power of a man can   a female cannot compete against it in general. Yes. Of course, there's the one offs.   But in general, you just you you have to keep the spaces separate. You really do. It it just makes more sense. You you you know, yes, a woman can beat a man, and a man can beat a woman. It depends on, like, if the woman's finesse can outmatch the strength of the man. You know? It's like that sort of thing. It's like in tennis or whatnot. Sometimes a finesse   can really  

[00:57:11] Jamon Fries:

win there. Yeah. Big time. Yeah.  

[00:57:13] Jesse Fries:

So but, yeah, in general, just in general practice, though,   yeah.  

[00:57:18] Jamon Fries:

It makes sense to You know, I I've always thought this to be the case after all.   You never see men   going into   women's figure skating.   Yeah. No. You don't. I have not heard of a single instance   where a man   goes into a sport, so the sport that the fee that a female can dominate in. Yep. They only go into the into the sports that men can dominate over women.  

[00:57:46] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Nope.  

[00:57:47] Jamon Fries:

I have never seen a case of the opposite. And because of that, I know   that this is not just because they think they're really a woman. It's because they couldn't win in the men's division.  

[00:58:01] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's it's like, when it comes to ice skating, you know, the men are more powerful.   Yes. You know, it's like,   if you get into, like, the solo acts and everything like this, they can do different tricks and things like that. Oh, yeah. Like, more rotations and things like that. But the beauty   of the female is the The grace the grace. The Yeah. Yeah. Superior to the male completely. Oh, by far. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:58:30] Jamon Fries:

Let's see. What else Nevada just announced that they're banning trans athletes from girls sports now.  

[00:58:36] Jesse Fries:

Okay. It just makes sense. Well,   Trump with his executive order   mandating it, states are coming around   or at least school systems are coming around. It's like Maine's governor said no with the Nevada  

[00:58:51] Jamon Fries:

might   yeah. I I think the Nevada might have come around even with Trump's without Trump's order,   because this stems back to the,   college volleyball situation   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where Yeah. Yeah. Teams are just refusing to play against this one team.  

[00:59:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   No. Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. It's   those girls are they're   that did that are brave.  

[00:59:20] Jamon Fries:

It's Oh, very much so. Yes. Yeah. Mhmm.  

[00:59:25] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. The oh, the other thing that I have, like, US   politics is,   so,   city in Pennsylvania,   a worker,   black woman,   accused   is accused of staging a hate crime. Hoax.   So,   apparently, she put, like, a noose on her desk.   And so  

[00:59:49] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Wow.  

[00:59:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So now the police are going after her. You you you know, it's   well, fortunately,   there is   very few actual   hate crimes, like, from white on black in this country nowadays. There there there are very, very few.   Against Jews, there's more.   Yeah.   I think it's because they're basically white anyways, possibly. I don't know why. You know? I I really don't know why exactly.   You should   not care personally in my book.   But yeah. So but when it comes to, like, all these   supposed   I'm not saying everyone because there might be some that aren't, but pretty much all these ones that where there's a supposed hate crime,   it's either, like, a mistake or somebody else did it. Like,   they did it themselves.  



[01:00:45] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[01:00:46] Jesse Fries:

And so on and so forth. You you you know, it's   it's sad. You know? It's like that they have to try to elevate themselves or try to show how   evil   white man is  

[01:00:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:01:00] Jesse Fries:

By posting lies and everything like that. You know? It's Yeah. They they have to jury they have  

[01:01:06] Jamon Fries:

to jury mandor something them themselves   to make it to make white people look bad.   To make it look like white people are these evil people.  

[01:01:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And and you  

[01:01:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And and, you know, us white guys, we're kinda getting sick of it. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just a little bit.  

[01:01:24] Jesse Fries:

It it's like Gen z. Gen z, they are   they're they are not going for Gen z men went for Trump.   Yep. They are   more conservative generally than other generations.   Yeah. Especially the men.   It's just   and   I think white men are just kinda tired of it. Men in general are also as well. We're tired of Yes.   Like, mansplaining,   manspreading. It's become   man the word man and men has become a slur almost, you know, like Yes. Yes. It does.   How masculine or toxic masculinity and crap like that, you know, it's just   get over it. We're we're we're we're not Oh, yeah.   We're not evil.  

We have different ways of doing things.   I'm sorry. We talk possibly differently than you do. We explain things differently than you do. Oh, our hips are different, so our legs kinda spread.   And we're not taught at a young age to keep our knees together for our skirts. I'm sorry. You know? I I Yeah. But I don't know  

[01:02:28] Jamon Fries:

I I I think that's the biggest reason for manspreading is because   when you're wearing pants all the time or shorts, you don't need to to keep your your thighs tight together.  

[01:02:39] Jesse Fries:

You you don't. It's just just one of those things you don't have to do. And so we don't have it's   okay.   Yeah. Get rid of skirts for girls, and then we can all just spread. You know?   I don't know.  

[01:02:56] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[01:02:58] Jesse Fries:

Or or or try to bring back kilts for men. Now and if you do that, you have to make it kilt. Don't say skirt because every guy's gonna run from a skirt or from a dress. Absolutely. If you make it manly say kilt. You if you make it manly like a kilt,   you you know, which is   then   men might be okay with it. You know? It's a but   say in a skirt, I'm sorry. No. No. Yes. There will be those new men that you lost it for everyone.  

[01:03:30] Jamon Fries:

Well, I I would say 99.9%.  

[01:03:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah.   Because there's always those,   something that There's always those few. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. For style and whatnot, they like to,   kind of cross dress a bit with skirts and all that. You know, which is fine, but   I'm just saying these are the things that   and and I really think we are getting tired of it. It's I think men in general are tired of that.   And then   with what's been going on in society and white man just being blamed for everything   Yep. I think white men are kinda sick of it. It's like Yeah. We accept you.   We just want to we we don't wanna be hated. You know? It it's like there's so much hate,   you you know, because I think everybody should be treated equally. I believe,   that men and women are equal. Every race is equal. We're we're we're there there's   there's slight differences here or there, but   as a person, as everything else  

[01:04:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Which is a person.   My it's like my my thought on,   you know,   on, like, women in the military,   women in   there's some jobs that I just don't feel   that women   as a general   belong in.   If you have to adjust   the physical   requirements   because a woman can't can't meet them  

[01:05:00] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:05:01] Jamon Fries:

Then they don't belong in that job.  

[01:05:04] Jesse Fries:

No. I agree. I agree. And it's like You know, it it's like you've you've got female firefighters,   which Oh, the one in California.   Well, the one in California, the captain. She said,   I'm not sure if the if it's the one that was murdered by her wife.   But one of the female captains out there said,   well, if a man is somewhere where there's a fire and   I can't get him out, he shouldn't have been there.  

[01:05:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know, it's like crap like that. It's like Bullshit. Your your job as a firefighter is to help keep people out of the fire. Yeah. Yeah. If if if you have the muscles to do it, do it. Physically do it, then you shouldn't be there. Oh, that's that's what I'm thinking.  

[01:05:46] Jesse Fries:

Thinking. So it's, You know, I mean, it just No. You could have different roles in Yes. Yes. Absolutely.   You know, even on the front lines, you can have different roles and everything like that because there'll be, you know, medics or this or that. You know? It's, like, fine and everything like that, but it's, like,   some things,   you know, is  

[01:06:06] Jamon Fries:

In in in most cases, you know, if it's if it's a lighter role, then absolutely, I'd I don't mind   I don't mind it at all.   But,   you know,   now there are some women that don't need those handicaps.   No. Yeah. And for them, I have no problem with them being in there.  

[01:06:26] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. I understand. I understand.   Yeah.   To to me, I I  

[01:06:32] Jamon Fries:

I wasn't trying to go and go down that road. I I I was I was talking just in general. You know? Oh, yes. Yes. No. Absolutely. And with which is what which is where I was going to. The to have to have them in general   where you have to  

[01:06:47] Jesse Fries:

reduce the requirements to do the job. No. No. Yeah. No. I I was just saying we're just equal. Not not not not necessarily we're gonna do the same job. I did I really didn't wanna go down the job route.  

[01:06:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know? It's,  

[01:07:00] Jesse Fries:

yeah,   because, of course, there's differences. You you you know? Oh, yeah.   Yeah.   You can't say that there aren't.   But   when it comes to also, like,   I actually on the mindless sea on my other podcast. I I I just did a whole little little rant. You know? It's like,   if you go after a whole generation,   like, the Gen Z kids have   gone through, especially the men,   it's   it was all girl power.   All the shirts and everything like that were girl power girl power. There's nothing about   male power, men power, boy power. Yeah. It it was woman power, girl power.   Constantly, you have that, and then you have the mansplaining,   the manspreading,   the toxic masculinity,   and everything like that. Yeah.  

A generation   and then you have the also the,   1619   movement and everything like that,   where it's,   every white guy is asshole,   and, they all deserve to rot in hell sort of thing.   Yeah. You you know, it's   it's not surprising when a generation after hearing all this goes, no. This is not the way it's supposed to be.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. This it was supposed to be equal.   We were supposed to get to equality, not to denigrate me. You know? It's Yeah.   Yeah.   Okay. Well, I think we've talked enough about that. So Yeah.  

[01:08:29] Jamon Fries:

So I I have one more thing on politics.   Uh-huh. Something interesting   has happened in Wisconsin.  

[01:08:36] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:08:38] Jamon Fries:

The,   voters decided to,   right now in Wisconsin, there there's always been the voter ID law.  

[01:08:47] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:08:49] Jamon Fries:

The voters   decided to take it a little bit further and actually wrote it into the state constitution now. Uh-huh.   They did a constitutional amendment to to   to make it so you had to that you had to show ID to vote.   And that passed?   It passed.   Holy crap.   Yeah.  

[01:09:11] Jesse Fries:

No. Because they also voted in because they also voted in the Democrat judge for the Supreme Court. Yes. Yeah.   So it that that's like a split ticket right there. That's like Oh, big time. Yeah.  

[01:09:26] Jamon Fries:

And and, honestly honestly, I think that the reason that it's set that that that it was a split ticket is because   the,   well, the the   judge part, the judge thing, there there was a lot riding on that. I didn't I didn't know just how much was riding on it. Uh-huh.   The,   right now, they're trying to   redistrict   two of the Republican districts to make it so that they so they'll be Democrat instead.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh. And they're they're doing that for next for the next election,   which which will probably remove two   two members of the house from   from the Republican side and put them on the Democrat side. Yep. Basic gerrymandering.  



[01:10:15] Jesse Fries:

It's what happens. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:10:17] Jamon Fries:

And so   this is why Soros and Obama   and all of them got so invested into Wisconsin.  

[01:10:27] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Because  

[01:10:29] Jamon Fries:

they if they can get those two, how two seats   in the midterms,   then it weakens the Republican power.  

[01:10:38] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Yeah. I I I I'm right there with you. I I yeah. And this is why once again to say,   outsiders stay away. Play it simple. We should make laws that they cannot involve themselves   in local  

[01:10:54] Jamon Fries:

situations. I'm sorry. It it Well, and was Wisconsin used to have that law in the books.   Wow. The U Wisconsin used to have a law that limited how much money could spent could be spent by someone that was from the outside.  

[01:11:06] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:11:08] Jamon Fries:

And then,   after Trump got elected, they did away with that law  

[01:11:15] Jesse Fries:

after he got elected the first time. No. Yeah. I understand. I I'm just   local   yeah. You you know me. I'm about   Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It it it's about local. You know?   Yeah. All the outsiders, both sides get out. Oh, yeah. Only before the local people to decide get your money out of here. Just Yep. Stop screwing with our elections and let the people's   actual will,   not not not,   propagated will,  

[01:11:43] Jamon Fries:

be done. You know? It's Yeah. The the biggest the biggest problem that I have with it is that   when you've got all of that outside money coming in  

[01:11:53] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:11:54] Jamon Fries:

It really eliminates the concept of state.  

[01:11:58] Jesse Fries:

No. See, that's the thing. Exactly.   Exactly.   It it it eliminates that. It eliminates   the   idea of districts even within the state. Yeah. Yeah. It it it completely gets rid of those things to where now it's just Democrat versus Republican. That's all it is.   Yeah. And to me, it should be   district, state, county, just whatever. You know? It it's Yeah. The city. You know? If if it's a dis if it's a district election,  

[01:12:29] Jamon Fries:

nothing outside of what's going on inside that district should even be brought into play in that election.   Yep. Yep. The same with the state. You know, the only one that should lose that should look outside of a state's borders   for for how it's going to affect anything   should be the federal elections.  

[01:12:47] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   No. Completely.   It's like,   should be you know, district should be based off of let let's base them off of, like,   what they are. So, like, social, economically. So we have   rural   districts. Yep. Then we would have suburban   districts. Then we would have Yeah. Urban districts.   Yeah. You know? And then we have that district that there's that one person.  

[01:13:17] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[01:13:19] Jesse Fries:

But because now they make these districts, they it's like there's some urban. There's some   some of these districts go from   urban all the way to rural   Yeah. With how they're drawn. So then they   can siphon off enough of those rural districts that go   red or Yep. Just just   enough of those,   urban voters   that that will make it go blue. It has to go blue. Yeah. Yeah. It's like   we we yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. I I I I I think that system needs to be fixed. I really do. I which I think would possibly make a better government.  

[01:14:00] Jamon Fries:

It very much. Wrong. But,   you know.   Yeah. Adding adding a rural area into, say, an urban district Uh-huh. That rural area is never gonna have any say on anything that happens within that district.  

[01:14:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:14:16] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. I mean, the the rural the urban district will be the controlling force of everything.   Yep. Yep.   Much like one of the reasons that people like the   electoral college is because it makes it so that   not necessarily   the big city   controls everything that happens in the country.   Mhmm.  

[01:14:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. See, to me, it makes sense. Yes. There'd be more urban because, well, there's more people in So that's that's just the way it works. You know? Maybe the Republicans would have to work a little bit harder there. Or, like, in the rural areas, maybe the Democrats would have to work a little bit harder there. You know? Yeah. Maybe with that working   harder,   they would also become a little bit more moderate.  

[01:15:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:15:01] Jesse Fries:

You know, which to me is generally the best way to go is more of a moderate,   aspect   to things. On both sides. Yeah. Go with change, but maybe a slow change. And if the change isn't working, maybe revert,  

[01:15:16] Jamon Fries:

you know, that sort of thing. You know? I mean, I think that that would be amazing if if they would ever revert some of these changes that they know aren't working.  

[01:15:24] Jesse Fries:

Well, that's what Doge is trying to do, is trying to revert some of these changes, you know. And Yeah. You see the hoopla that's,   going on about that. You know, it's  

[01:15:33] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   I've I've seen some people talk about that. They're like, well, you know, it's not really that they don't like or they don't wanna revert. It's that   they're afraid that their secrets are gonna be found.  

[01:15:47] Jesse Fries:

I I'm sure there is some of that because, well, it's humanity. Yeah. But Yeah.   Just based off of, my   well, I still consider him a friend, but a guy that decided not to be friends with me on Facebook anymore,   he he works for the state. He works for the government, the Fed. So Uh-huh.   So there's he's scared, I think, is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He always he always complained when there was gonna be a shutdown. He just went off on whenever there's gonna be a shutdown, and he might lose his paycheck.   So it's a personal matter to a lot of these people, I think. Yeah. I I really think and and I think they really internalize it. It's just like the Haiti and Trump thing. They internalize it so much, and they stuff it down, and it becomes this festering Yeah. Boil   that Yeah. They just cannot let go. They just can't let go. Yeah. Yeah.  



[01:16:39] Jamon Fries:

Now with with government shutdowns, my sometimes.   My understanding of government shutdowns, though, is that   they may not get paid right now, but they will get paid.  

[01:16:50] Jesse Fries:

Generally, that's the case. May maybe in his job, they he wouldn't. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Because he's he might be hourly. I don't know exactly. Right. But  

[01:17:01] Jamon Fries:

even still Well, no. I mean, to from everything that I've from everything I've ever read about a government shutdown   No. No. I employees don't lose anything.   Even hourly because  

[01:17:12] Jesse Fries:

they I'm right there with you. Paid later on for it. They just don't get a check right now. I'm right there with you. I never Yeah. Really talked to him about it. And it seems like it was probably a good idea   because   because he unfriended me because  

[01:17:28] Jamon Fries:

I I I had no idea. You would have been unfriended much earlier if you wanna talk to them about it. Exactly.  

[01:17:33] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Just because I was happy about Doge. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. Trying to limit waste. You know? It's that's all it is. You know? It's like,   why can't you see that some people just want   a reduction,   you know, just to to get rid of waste. You know?   Every penny counts. This is what we are taught. Every especially in a household thing Oh, yeah. Every penny counts. So, yes, it may be a very small percentage of the national budget,   but   every penny counts.   Absolutely.  

[01:18:05] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[01:18:06] Jesse Fries:

100%.  

[01:18:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So, did you hear about the,   the bill that,   well,   they say bipartisan, but they they got nine Republicans to vote for it. If they get one, they say it's bipartisan. It's always hilarious.   But,   the   the news article was headlined,   Republicans and Democrats team up to defy house leadership in voting for new parents.  

[01:18:34] Jesse Fries:

For voting for new parents?  

[01:18:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. The the the headline was so   so fucking far off from what the from what was going   on.   So   along so during COVID,   the house and the senate   allowed you to vote remotely.   Uh-huh. Right. Right. Yeah. I remember that. Now the Republicans are trying to make it so that you have to show up there to vote.  

[01:19:01] Jesse Fries:

Oh, imagine that. Showing up for your job. Okay.  

[01:19:04] Jamon Fries:

But now,   a Republican from Florida   is is it it has,   put a bill out there,   and the Republicans were trying to   basically make it said it it was a no go   that says that   parents of a brand new child   should not have to go in to vote.  

[01:19:32] Jesse Fries:

What?  

[01:19:34] Jamon Fries:

So paternity leave I don't know. It it takes   Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.   Well,   suck it up. You know? It I I No shit.   You went into a position where you knew that you were gonna have to be there to vote.   Yep. Yep. So don't try to change the way that the game works.  

[01:19:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   You know, people have gone on their deathbed. You know, they're go I'm gonna vote. Well   Yep. You can continue the same. Just saying. But yeah. Yeah. Now now the,  

[01:20:09] Jamon Fries:

now the all of the Democrats and nine Republicans   went,   voted to, oh, to   not continue the resolution.  

[01:20:22] Jesse Fries:

So not to go with that. So  

[01:20:26] Jamon Fries:

Well, to the the Republicans, we're trying to   resolve it and   not have it pass. Uh-huh.   Because the the votes weren't there, I guess, to make it pass. Okay.   But so so they went so they went in and the they did something that supposedly   saved the bill or something like that. I don't know. Some amendment here or there probably. Yeah.  

[01:20:51] Jesse Fries:

Got it.  

[01:20:52] Jamon Fries:

Got it. Got it. Yes. Because they don't wanna go in to vote. But, I mean, it you know, and and Republicans, the the original   concept of of eliminating it was, this is a slippery slope.   Right. We let we let   married women we let,   we let women with brand new children   not vote in person today,   then another group is gonna say, well, we can't be in you know, some maybe somebody in a wheelchair is gonna say, well, oh, we can't go there and vote in person, so we need to be able to do this too. And then somebody else is gonna say, oh, we need to be able to do this too. And then we need to be able to pretty soon, it just opens up to where you don't even have to show up at congress to vote no matter who you are.  

[01:21:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   And a lot of the back dealing in congress actually works   in person best instead of Yeah. Because you can wheel and deal and go, hey.   I know you don't really care about this. How about if I just give you a nice bottle of whiskey?   We call it good.  

[01:21:51] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Let's do it. Or or the more more favorite well, I know I know you don't really care about this, and I don't really care about that, but you care about that.   And I care about this. So if we help each other, you know Yeah. Yeah. We're we're good. Or the so I have this picture.  

[01:22:08] Jesse Fries:

I think that's you.   And I know that is not your wife.  

[01:22:16] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Absolutely.  

[01:22:19] Jesse Fries:

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[01:23:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   And let's see here. What else do we got?   Well, I think we've pretty much played out politics.  

[01:23:30] Jesse Fries:

I think we have covered, well, American politics.   There's a European politics. Well oh, just so you know, real ID guys, they say it's actually gonna go into effect now to get on a plane. You need a real ID,   starting in, like, May. They they they've said this for the past fifteen years. Just saying. So I I I I don't think it's   I'm betting at maybe a fifty fifty chance. I I think at best, it's a fifty fifty chance of actually happening  

[01:23:57] Jamon Fries:

because every so often, they get out of the way. There's always just it's always just a 5050%.  

[01:24:02] Jesse Fries:

That's what they ever meant. They they they print off all this crap saying, oh, it's gonna happen this day. It's gonna happen this day. And they spend millions of dollars printing this in every new airport so that everybody could see it, and then it doesn't happen.  

[01:24:17] Jesse Fries:

You know?  

[01:24:18] Jesse Fries:

I I I really think it's gonna happen the same. Anyways, so just wanna put that out there for,   you people.   But the EU is getting crazy too.   Looks like they're using lawfare to go after their own.   Marine Le Pen in France,   they've,   convicted her of   it it seems shady from what I can understand. Basically, she while she was   a member of the   European Parliament, she they say that she   used the funds incorrectly that were for parliamentarian   issues,   but then other people have done it and haven't been arrested for it.   But she was convicted   for it.  

And   with that conviction,   it would the judge said,   and given two years in jail.   The two years in jail have been waiting for appeal,   but he'll   the judge also decided   that she cannot run for president   in France   in 2027.   Wait. What? The front yeah. She's the front runner.  

[01:25:25] Jamon Fries:

The judge said she cannot sit for That's why they did that. Yes.  

[01:25:30] Jesse Fries:

That is why they Oh, wow.   Yep. Just like, what was it? In Albania or something like that when they   had had a presidential election, and then they said, oh, no. I'm sorry. You can't,   the the Russia cheated. Russian got introduced, so, that's null and void. And then they kicked out the guy. They said that guy can't run now either.   So,   the EU, the the the they do not want right parties. And I'm not gonna say far right. I'm just saying right parties. The like like, on the right. Because that's all these things are. If you're on the right in the in Europe, you are considered Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hitler is how it's considered.   Yep. It's it's like this   this one I came across just, at the very end. So there's this guy. He's part of the AFD, so alternative for Deutschland.  

Okay.   It it they call him far right party or whatnot. Anyways but, anyways, his name is, Peter,   Bystrin.   And so he's been accused of giving the Nazi salute.   Right?   Yeah. He said he was waving,   and they said, oh, that's a Nazi salute. So   a long time ago,   Megan or,   Angela Merkel,   She she was waving to the crowd,   and the picture   looks like a Nazi salute. Right? But but then everybody's, like, going, oh, no. She wasn't given a Nazi salute. No way. No way. Yeah. And so Yeah. And so this guy decided to post this   on   Twitter. It's a Nazi salute now.  



[01:27:08] Jamon Fries:

I know it was now given a Nazi salute.   Yes.   You know, that that whole that whole Nazi salute thing,   all it takes is a snap of is a snap of a photograph at the right second.   And you you you take you video take a video of somebody waving.   Uh-huh. And at some point, their arm is going to be in the position of a Nazi salute.   And so all you do is you take you split that one frame and boom, this guy's a Nazi.  

[01:27:40] Jesse Fries:

Basically, what you need to do, you just need to keep it at, like, a 90 degree. It just wave with a 90 degree elbow. Say hi.  

[01:27:49] Jamon Fries:

You you you you don't extend it at all. 90 degree. Yeah. I know. Because if it's You you have to do you have to do that royal parade wave where it's like, you hold your hand. You just you hold your arm in one position and just turn your hand.  

[01:28:05] Jesse Fries:

Or or just go to a salute.   Yes. Yes. Or maybe the British one where they you see the palm of your hand.   You know, I don't know. But, yeah, it it's all ridiculous, though. It is so It really is. Yeah. But, yeah, now now they're trying to ban him from running for chancellor or whatever. I don't know what they no. It it's it's crazy. And the Italian prime minister   the Italian government is not   they're not going for it.   The Italian deputy PM said banning Marine Le Pen is a declaration of war from Brussels.   Oh, wow. Okay.  



[01:28:40] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Italy, they they they they don't like to see what's happening with Brussels, coming from Brussels and everything like that. All this,  

[01:28:49] Jesse Fries:

be because   well, Italy, it's a conservative country.   Mhmm.   And so they don't like all this   agenda that's been going on, with the EU.   I think the EU needs to just in general, the EU needs to decide if they're gonna come together or   go apart.   If the conservative countries like Hungary,   Poland,   Italy, and whatnot, Greece, if they want   if they wanna be more conservative, they need to break off. Or you need a stronger government   where you can actually elect   your   head because the president of the EU is not elected.   Yeah. At least get it to where it's like The United States where that person is held responsible by the people.  

Yeah. Maybe.   You know?   It makes sense to  

[01:29:44] Jamon Fries:

me. Yeah. They they gotta figure something out. They really do. They really do.  

[01:29:51] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   What else do we got? Should we go to science   tech? You got anything in those?  

[01:30:03] Jamon Fries:

No. I, actually, I don't really have an the the there was one   kind of it was in tech news, but I I think it was more just regular business news.   Mhmm.   So Zelle   is shutting down their app.   Well, that's different. Okay. Why? I I was a little bit concerned because, you know, that's how   I pay my phone bill and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.   But   reading into the story, it's not that big a deal.  

[01:30:34] Jesse Fries:

Nobody was using Zelle?  

[01:30:36] Jamon Fries:

It's like 2% of 2% of their business was using their own app. Everything else goes through the banks. I I we had a babysitter,  

[01:30:47] Jesse Fries:

and   she she didn't take Venmo.   And so I I was trying to figure out I go, oh, Zelle.   For some reason, I I I I forgot that it's not its own app. And so I tried to log in to the app, and I'm like going, what what's going on here? They go, oh, it's through my bank app.   And then I was able to do it. You know? It's like   yeah. And and I even tried Apple Pay, and for some reason, it just wouldn't let me send her money. It was only Zelle that I actually  

[01:31:15] Jamon Fries:

That's weird. Yeah. It was really weird. So Yeah. But yeah. So Zelle is shutting down their app. So that 2% of the people are gonna be out of out alone. Oh, man. Oh, well.  

[01:31:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:31:29] Jamon Fries:

I couldn't believe that it was only 2% of the business that they do, though. I mean, you know, everything else goes through the bank apps. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Yeah. No. It I found that very amusing. It is amusing. But then wasn't it just designed by the banks anyways? Isn't that what?  

[01:31:45] Jesse Fries:

Because every bank has it now, I think,   somehow.  

[01:31:49] Jamon Fries:

Almost every bank. I think there might be a few that don't,   but, yeah, most banks do. Yeah.   It it I don't know who originally   designed it, but   I know it's made transferring money to individuals a lot easier.  

[01:32:08] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.   Yeah. No. It it it's handy. It it does come in handy, at least for the babysitter. I'm I bet she was glad to get that.   But   Yep. Yep. Let's see here.   What else do we got?  

[01:32:25] Jamon Fries:

There there's an accounting firm. Uh-huh. An accounting startup. They've,   decided to   change   how to   they're well, not really change, but they're trying to make   filing your taxes more appealing   Okay.   By turning it into a Pokemon game.  

[01:32:47] Jesse Fries:

Oh, Jesus.  

[01:32:50] Jamon Fries:

So it goes through with all the Pokemon   stuff and your trainer and everything else like that. And you you have do you still fill everything out like you normally would?   I don't know why this they thought this was necessary,   but   yeah. So that happened.   Just start teaching this in high school, people. Come on. No kidding. Yeah. I I have I have often thought   that one class that should be that should be required in high school   Mhmm.   Is accounting,   but   not the standard accounting that that you learn now. Right. Just the basic for your own books. Yes.   Budgeting,   you know Taxes.  

Everyone should know how to budget. Everyone should know how to do their personal taxes. Yep. Yep. Those two things are so integral to everything.   Yeah. Makes sense. That it should be taught in high school. And, you know, it's like when I went to high school, I could have taken accounting.   Mhmm. But   I didn't go high enough in math. I had to have algebra two   before I could take accounting. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Which doesn't make any sense to me because the only thing that's required for the type of accounting that you need as an individual   is addition and subtraction.  

Yep. That's it. Pretty simple. You don't need to be able to calculate ratios. You don't need to be able to to do any of this other stuff. It all comes important in business accounting.   Mhmm. But not in personal accounting.  

[01:34:25] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep. You know,   speaking of important to human survival, apparently,   we need bugs. We need germs.   The space station apparently is too clean, and it's actually making our astronauts sick.   Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. But then surprising, though. No. It's not really all that surprising because we did grow up on the Earth with bugs and germs and bacteria and all this sort of stuff.   And so if you don't have it, your body   has become reliant on some of these processes.   You know? It's like   our digestion   requires   bugs. We it requires bacteria. Yes.   Yes. You know? It's so it's just how our system works. We would,   evolved with all that in mind. So, yeah, it's a so, yeah, it's too clean. Well, I mean, it it gets sick. Yeah. It's that's all that's always been very well known, though. If you look at the children that have better immunity,  

[01:35:20] Jamon Fries:

it's the children that go out and play in the dirt.  

[01:35:23] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Like the Amish and everything like that. Why the Amish don't have, allergies and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah. Or farmers. Farm kids, they generally don't have,   allergies as well. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:35:34] Jamon Fries:

You go out, you play in the dirt, you rough house around,   and you stay healthy.   Exactly.  

[01:35:41] Jesse Fries:

Actually, do something. Unlike this last story we'll cover. So Ford   Ford has decided to bring back a feature. Right?  

[01:35:50] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[01:35:51] Jesse Fries:

Guess what this feature is?  

[01:35:53] Jamon Fries:

What's that?  

[01:35:55] Jesse Fries:

For its electric cars, it's bringing in a stick shift.  

[01:36:00] Jamon Fries:

Wait. What?   What the fuck does it like the car need to ship for?  

[01:36:08] Jesse Fries:

They at least did,   what is it? Copyright,   sort of thing. They filed the patents and everything like that. But yeah. So it will make the car   feel like like, you know, like,   I probably with noises and whatnot. It'll, like, rev up the engine. You know, how gears go through it. Go right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna do that. So so   so yeah. And you can have a stick that you actually, like, move. It'll just be electronic, so it does nothing,   but you will have   a stick.  

[01:36:43] Jamon Fries:

Wow.  

[01:36:47] Jesse Fries:

I don't wanna say the first thought that came to mind, but, What was the first thought? Right. Now I need to know what the first thought is.   As long as it won't get us sued, what's your first thought?  

[01:37:00] Jamon Fries:

They needed a stick in the car. It wasn't a female engineer, was it?   Okay. That might get you, like, some hate mail. His email is jamen@mindlessmeanderings.com.   Thank you for joining us. You wanted to know the first thought, damn it.  

[01:37:20] Jesse Fries:

Anyways, so thank you for joining us for the for episode 31 of the My List Meander Eats podcast. I'm Jesse Fries. And I'm Jabin Fries.   And you guys have a great week.