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We experienced some technical difficulties during this episode, so I have spliced it together.

Hosted by

- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:26) Introduction and Sports Talk

(00:01:52) Five Rules to Reform Congress

(00:08:58) Discussion on Congressional Travel and Expenses

(00:14:08) Single Issue Bills and Political Strategy

(00:17:54) Influence of Money in Politics

(00:22:28) Political Shifts in Canada and Sweden

(00:24:24) Immigration Policies in Sweden and Germany

(00:28:15) Health Studies and Misinformation

(00:32:00) Bird Migration Study

(00:36:05) Juvenile Crime and Parental Responsibility

(00:40:31) Surveillance and Privacy Concerns

(01:00:23) SpaceX and Regulatory Challenges

(01:06:08) Starlink and Space Exploration

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[00:00:00] Jamon Fries:

So I'm hearing dead air now.  

[00:00:26] Jesse Fries:

Welcome to the Mindless Meanderings.   It is Wednesday,   September   18th at, it was supposed to be 11 AM, but, we're running a little bit late.   I am your host, Jesse Fries.  

[00:00:41] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries.  

[00:00:44] Jesse Fries:

How are you go doing today, Jamin?  

[00:00:47] Jamon Fries:

Not too bad. Not too bad.   Good. I enjoyed watching the Chiefs game on Saturday on Sunday, so that was a good thing. Okay. Did they win?   Yeah. Yeah. They won by,   field goal. Oh, okay.  

[00:01:04] Jesse Fries:

I really don't pay 3 seconds left in the game, they kicked the field goal. Nice. Nice. Nice. I don't pay much attention to that, but,   yeah. I also know you never really been the big into sports. Yeah. Yeah. I I I did listen, I watched the k state game because I was on Fox, so that was nice. Okay. Okay. It was a good game.  

[00:01:23] Jamon Fries:

That's all. It's always good to it's always good to see your alma mater win. Exactly. Exactly.  

[00:01:29] Jesse Fries:

So what's going on with you today?  

[00:01:34] Jamon Fries:

Not too much. Not a whole lot.   Just,   yeah.   Uh-huh. Found some interesting   things, and,   one of them,   you know, I I don't normally like cussing online, but I'm gonna read the headline for this one. Uh-huh.   It's 5 rules to unfuck   congress.  

[00:01:58] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay. But what what are these, said 5 rules? Now you kinda got me interested to see what they actually think would actually unfuck congress.  

[00:02:09] Jamon Fries:

Well, the first one, it he says this as if it's an absolute obvious is term limits   Oh, yeah. For for the congress and the senate. Yeah. I mean, I I don't know how many people have been telling me that we need to have term limits there.   I don't I I'm not quite sold on that yet. No.  

[00:02:29] Jesse Fries:

It   it it doesn't change.   The party still are in control.  

[00:02:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:02:36] Jesse Fries:

The only it's like, when I lived up in Michigan,   one of the issues with because they have term limits for their,   congress   Yeah. For their assembly. And one of the issues with it is that   you actually get rid of people that know the system.   Every couple years Yes. Absolutely.  

[00:02:54] Jamon Fries:

People don't know the system. You've always got new people in there. So Exactly. You've you've so, I mean, there there's a learning time. You have to learn how the system works,   and then you can be effective within the system.   If you get rid of everybody as soon as they learn how the system works,   what the heck's the point of even having them there? Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:03:13] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[00:03:15] Jamon Fries:

Now the way I look at it though, I mean, term limits   for president makes sense.   Because   all the way back to when the country was founded,   they always wanted to make sure that the person that was that was at the top   was not a monarch or a king or wasn't able to behave in as in the manner of 1.   Yes, but also no, actually. Right. Yeah. I mean, I know term limits didn't come till later. And actually  

[00:03:46] Jesse Fries:

actually, a lot of   the founders,   and just people of the United States  

[00:03:52] Jamon Fries:

with George Washington, they just wanted him to stay until he was dead. So it was Yeah. Yeah. I I do remember I do remember hearing about that. And but, you know, I I loved his response to it was that, no. You know? I mean, he he actually knew that it wouldn't be good for the country for him to just always be in control. No. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So,  

[00:04:14] Jesse Fries:

yeah, the the   there is some of that in there, but, that that's why you have elections every 4 years. That's really what they thought it would be. Not necessarily the term limits,   but Yep. Just the every 4 years, you'd get to vote him in or out. So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:04:33] Jamon Fries:

And then it wasn't until,   who was it,   was it   it was one of the Roosevelt's, I think. Was it FDR? Yeah. FDR. Yeah. FDR. Yeah. He after his 3rd or 4th term,   they they decided to make it so you could only be in in office for 2.  

[00:04:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Which I I I actually find stupid. I don't see why that should be the case.   I think we should be able to pick whoever   we want, personally.  

[00:05:01] Jamon Fries:

That's, if if somebody's doing a damn good job, wouldn't it be better to keep them in there rather than  

[00:05:07] Jesse Fries:

throw them out, sir, somebody new? No. Exactly. Exactly. You you you know, given that, you know,   Clinton might still be in office or Obama might still be in office. You you know? Yeah. He's,   Bush,   he was going down towards the end of his  

[00:05:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So I don't know if he could hang up for another one. Gotten reelected.   Yeah. And I think there were a lot of, a lot of conservatives that were starting to lean away from him.  

[00:05:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   He he may have been able to, though, because he was the president. It it it is Yeah.   It does help you if you are the incumbent. So no matter what. So Absolutely. Absolutely.  

[00:05:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So the second rule that he had, which I I kinda like this one. Mhmm.   The second rule that he came up with is congress should be paid   no more than the median wage of their state.  

[00:06:03] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:06:04] Jamon Fries:

So if so if they want a pay raise,   they gotta get it to make it so that their state has more income.   Right. So their state gets paid more. Mhmm.   And that in that way, they would at least be making sure that they're always working for the betterment   of the people in the state.  

[00:06:23] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. But I'm not sure if that  

[00:06:28] Jamon Fries:

would really help. Yeah. There's there's problems with it. Because but no matter what  

[00:06:33] Jesse Fries:

these people get into office, they're just normal Joes, and then they get in, and then all of a sudden, they're millionaires.   Yeah. You you know, because there's also other laws that congress has written into the laws   that where they can inside trade. They can do all sorts of things that it's illegal for everybody else to do. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:06:53] Jamon Fries:

And so they Then they would they would absolutely have to get rid of that. Yeah. Exactly. There's  

[00:07:01] Jesse Fries:

so much in that. It's like yeah. I don't know. It's,   yeah.  

[00:07:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You'd you'd have to you'd have to cut all of the outside,   influence spending that's done. You'd have to make it so that it was illegal for,   for third party interests to,   you know,   provide those hue to buy houses for you and stuff for them and stuff like that. Mhmm.   You know, they they don't do it outright, but, you know, they there's definitely deals made where the house gets built for a lot cheaper   if you vote first if you vote for the thing that they want and Right. Right. You know, it's all just shady.  

[00:07:42] Jesse Fries:

Oh, it really is. It really is.  

[00:07:46] Jamon Fries:

So you'd you'd have to really control a lot more than   than just the just how much they're paid. But, you know, at least that would be a decent starting point.  

[00:07:57] Jesse Fries:

Possibly.   Possibly. Possibly. But but they've always made   more than   average. Because I'm looking at Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at, how much they get paid and everything like that.   Mhmm. And   it looks like it's a 174,000   is what they get paid.   Okay.  

[00:08:15] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's that's probably higher than median wages in most states. Right. Right.  

[00:08:22] Jesse Fries:

In 1855,   they were paid $3,000,   which equals out to be $94,000.20.23.   Okay.   So   even back then, they were basically making, like, 6 figures.   Yeah.   The only other time   yeah. And then sometimes it jumps up to, like, 200,000.   Mhmm. In 1984, they were making 72,000,   which equals that to be about 204,000.   Yep. Yep. So  

[00:08:58] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Yeah. So the third rule that he came up with is that no travel should be paid for by the government.   None? In other words,   none. None of their travel. He he he believes that they that if you're a if you're a state, if you're a senator   or a representative from a state, you should stay in the state. You shouldn't be jetting back and forth from DC.   He said, we've got Zoom. You you can you can we've got you can vote online confidentially,   you know, all this stuff like that. So there's no need for them to to be going back and forth from DC all the time. No.  

[00:09:35] Jesse Fries:

Nope. No. Yeah. No. No. No.   No.   You you you need to be able to make deals and everything like that. That can only be especially especially in politics, for Christ's sake. You can't be doing that over a Zoom call. You know? You you you need to be sitting there sipping a whiskey or something like that, you know, having Absolutely. That's how the best deals are made.  

[00:09:55] Jamon Fries:

A little bit of alcohol in there, and you can, you can work out a lot of stuff. Exactly. Exactly. Maybe that's the problem with Congress. Maybe they don't drink enough. You know, that might be that could be. Yeah. It might be. It might  

[00:10:07] Jesse Fries:

be. We need to get them squashed every day. He also  

[00:10:10] Jamon Fries:

he also thinks that none of them,   should ever go overseas   on the government dime.   He he's like, why why do they need to go to foreign countries to talk to their politicians?   They're not foreign dignitaries   or anything like that. They're representatives of their state, so they should stay in their state.  

[00:10:33] Jesse Fries:

I'm sorry. No. I just I find that stupid.  

[00:10:36] Jamon Fries:

No. Well, I mean, the considering   that   congress   is responsible   for 99%   of the trade deals that are done   internationally. I mean, the congress has to approve any trade deal Right. Right. Or anything like that that that happens overseas.   What? Are we gonna ask all of them to to come to us instead of us being willing to go to them?  

[00:10:58] Jesse Fries:

I mean, they they have to be able to go overseas. Yeah. No. I I I find that asinine. No. No. Yeah. It's it's the whole travel thing   no. No. I Yeah. Yeah. I I just don't buy it.   Yep. Yep. Having maybe   maybe not having the actual  

[00:11:18] Jamon Fries:

federal government pay for your travel, fine. Maybe have it, like, come from the state or something like that. I don't know because you represent in the state or something like that. But you do need to travel to the capital. But but even if even if yeah. It it maybe the flights to the capital, you would need to you should have the state cover that because that is your responsibility to the state. Right. But if you're going overseas to talk to to foreign dignitaries about,   potential trade deals or things like that,   that's all for the that's all for the federal government. That's not for the state because no state can can make any trade deals. It has to be the federal government. Well, actually, states can make trade deals. They do all the time, actually.  



[00:12:00] Jesse Fries:

They they talk to businesses. They talk to governments.  

[00:12:03] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. I I know that they talk to businesses and governments, but they they can't,   if I'm remembering correctly,   it's the federal government that is completely in control of basically all commerce   except for within the state itself.  

[00:12:22] Jesse Fries:

Not   yes and no. You need final approval,   from the fed a lot of times,   but you can actually go over and you can make your own deals.   It's like I know governors   when I was up in Michigan,   governors,   the governor,   he was Snyder at the time, I think.   But he he actually went to China to get a trade deal going. And, also,   like, that's what these governors always do. They're always going to, like, China or Mexico or whatnot trying to find new deals,   to actually bring home, open up   communication,  

[00:12:58] Jamon Fries:

schmooze the elites of, whatever company or this or that, you know, trying to get Right. And and and that makes sense for a governor to do that. Right. Right. It doesn't really make sense for a for a represent for someone from the the house of representatives in the federal government to to do that type of thing, though.   You know, the government the government   the the the   the, governor   is all about bringing bringing that dollar into their country Right. Right. Into their state. Whereas   the   representative and the senator  

[00:13:31] Jesse Fries:

are trying to bring money into their state.  

[00:13:37] Jamon Fries:

Well, they are, but they should be but it but they should be more concerned about the federal.   You know, I I guess they need to make sure that that they get reelected, so, you know, they've gotta bring deals into their state. See,  

[00:13:50] Jesse Fries:

I I I completely disagree. I think   was that all his points? Because I I have a point that No. He had he had 2 more. Okay. Okay. I have a point that I I wanna bring up, see if he   comes with it. So   so let's go on with that because otherwise, I'd have to say what I wanna say. But,  

[00:14:08] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the the 4th the 4th rule that he came up with is that you should only have single issue bills.   You should never have bills that that that cover more than one one particular issue,   such as, for example, the,   the funding, the Ukrainian the Ukraine   bill that they passed. Right. But they tacked on they tacked on,   support to the elderly   to make it said anybody that voted against that bill was voting against supporting the elderly and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Throwing on those little bills that that that every you know, that gotcha bill. Yeah. Yeah. I just yeah. I  

[00:14:50] Jesse Fries:

I I think that, actually works. I I like that one. That point, I do like,   because what? The   the latest one for the IVF   Yep. That the that the Republican shot down,   apparently, in that, it had, like,   funding   for IVF for transgender   in the Oh, god. Yeah. Yeah. So so   so,   basically, the Republicans would have to vote to give IVF to transgenders   after, like,   after they have like, after they're sterilized by going on the wrong hormones or whatnot, you know,   that sort of thing. And so we would have to fund it. And so because of that, the Republican said, no, but because of that,   the Democrats used it. Schumer used it as a gotcha. They said, no. They don't like IVF. They wanna get rid of IVF. Yep.  

All it was was a gotcha bill, and everybody knows that that's in politics. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:15:48] Jamon Fries:

The Democrats didn't actually want that crap that happens.  

[00:15:51] Jesse Fries:

The democrats didn't actually want that to go. It was purely political theater was what it was. So Yeah.  

[00:15:58] Jamon Fries:

Well, it's because the election's coming up. So, you know, they they can get more people they can get more people to support them because by saying, hey, you Republicans, you hate this. So Exactly. You know? Exactly.   We're we're the better people. Yep. Yep.   The the 5th one that he came up, I think I really like this one. Mhmm.   He said his his 5th rule was that any time a congressperson or a representative   speaks to the media or to the people in an official capacity Uh-huh. They should be considered to be under oath so that if they tell a lie, they have tortured themselves.  

[00:16:38] Jesse Fries:

That's just funny.  

[00:16:40] Jamon Fries:

I know.  

[00:16:41] Jesse Fries:

No. It it it wouldn't be possible.  

[00:16:44] Jamon Fries:

I know it wouldn't be. But but, you know, it wouldn't it be so nice if it was if they if they could get in trouble for all the lies that they tell?  

[00:16:53] Jesse Fries:

Yes. But unfortunately, also that that comes up with, like, secrecy   and everything like that. You do, you know, top secret stuff and everything like that. And so and sometimes they do have to lie.   Yeah. And so it's it's not really it's an impossibility,   unfortunately, on that one. Unfortunately,  

[00:17:10] Jamon Fries:

yes. Yeah. Yeah.   It'd be it'd be really nice, but yeah.   And they do have a lot of access to a lot of information that we don't need to know.   And if if they   tell a lie to cover it up  

[00:17:26] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. But then some people would argue. Sometimes you gotta do that. Yeah. Some people though would argue that there is no such thing as things we don't need to know since we are in a democracy as people   like to say, even though we're not we're not Republicans. Yeah. We're not in the Yeah. Yeah. So Yeah.   Yep. Okay. So my idea so this is the one I've been kicking around. So yeah. On how to possibly fix   just politics in general.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. If   so you can only,   influence, like, give money to,   your own   district.  

So,   basically,   you would only be able to if you say you're a millionaire. Right?   Mhmm. And you wanna give money to somebody. You can only give it to wherever   that jurisdiction is. So if it's your,   like, a house of representative, you can only give money to somebody that's actually running for representative in your own district. That's it. Oh, yeah. If you're   if it's a state level, you can like a senator,   then you can give money   for the whole state.  

[00:18:34] Jamon Fries:

Right. And if you're if it's for the president, then, you know, you can give money to the to the president. Exactly. But nobody from Wyoming  

[00:18:42] Jesse Fries:

can send money to Texas   to fight for a senator or a representative.   I I think I'd like that rule. Right? It just makes so much sense. That's what I'm thinking. Yes. Some areas will be controlled by the powerful of that area, but isn't that better than just being controlled by the powerful of the entire country?  

[00:19:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, I'd I'd much rather have local people having an influence than   somebody from an entirely different state. Exactly.   I don't I don't want somebody from California telling   my politicians here in Kansas what to do. Exactly. It's exactly the same laws  

[00:19:22] Jesse Fries:

on on, like, on the federal level,   somebody from overseas cannot give money to our presidents and everything like that for that. So it's just that same system,   but done on every little level   all the way down. That makes absolute sense. Right? That makes absolute sense. Yeah. I think that would free up a lot of different things. I would think that would fix a lot of different problems because then you would actually have people concentrating on what's   affecting   that area.  

[00:19:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, there there even there are some some that even get into the state level   politics, you know, the the   the governor and the Exactly.   There there's no reason that that there should be money coming in from outside of a state for anything internal in the state. That's what I'm thinking.   I mean, it just yeah. I It's not another damn business.  

[00:20:12] Jesse Fries:

Nope. That's right. Yeah.  

[00:20:15] Jamon Fries:

I realized that one. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. I've been kicking that one. That out there.  

[00:20:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think so. I yeah. It just makes sense to me, you know?  

[00:20:26] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:20:28] Jesse Fries:

But, of course, that would piss off the parties. The parties wouldn't like that because then what's the point of a party?   Yeah. You know? It's like,   hey. Yeah. And our government is run by the parties. That's basically just who runs it.   Yes. You have a few outliers here and there, you know,   like Rand Paul and Robert.  

[00:20:48] Jamon Fries:

Not only just the parties, but also, you know, the the parties are always looking at the state level and the local level to find someone   to bring up that they think would be good for the federal level. Mhmm. And so they're gonna if they find somebody that they like at the at a local level, they're gonna go in and they're gonna send them a whole bunch of money Exactly. And get them up into the state level and then finally up into the fed.   So I mean, yeah.   There's just too much control over everything in my opinion.  

[00:21:20] Jesse Fries:

I think so too. And then, you know,   I think if we do that, it'd be more like what we want it to be, You know? Yeah. We we we think that we should have a say, not just the the party. You you know, it's like,   with a party, you have this whole thing. You can   have groups and everything like that. But,  

[00:21:40] Jamon Fries:

yeah,  

[00:21:42] Jesse Fries:

we we when it's so just party, you have to tow the party line. No matter what the party line, the party line, the party line, the party line. This creates politicians   that   are just sycophants to the party. You know, one guy in the party comes up with this idea, and then they let go, and then they hang on to that one for the rest of their life. And   it's   it's a stupid system is how our system is. I really think   my   my idea might actually   do something about it.   You know? Well, good.   Yeah. Yeah. Well, well,   yeah. I've been given that one. Like that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Let's see here. What else do we got here?  

Looks like, Trudeau up in Canada is having some issues.   He lost Oh, really? What what's going on with that? He lost a by election,   in   Montreal.   It was a very   heavily   liberal seat that was always liberal.   Yeah.   But he lost it. They lost it. Oh, wow.   Yeah. So but   he he's like I was hoping sooner or later that that they'd get a clue up there. Yeah. No. They really have. They really have. He hasn't gotten a clue yet. Everybody's Of course not. Many people are actually asking him to step aside even within his own party, within the liberal party. But   he he is,   like, going, what? I don't know. No, god. It's all good. You you you guys don't know. You just don't know. And this is what he's been saying. Just just wait just wait till his next debate, and then, you know, they'll start whispering in his ear that, you know, maybe it's time to go.  

Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly.   Exactly. And it worked with Biden, so you never know. Yeah. You never know. You never know. And apparently, the liberals have trailed the conservative party,   nationally   by a wide margin Oh, okay. For the past year. So   Wow. Yeah. He's,   he's holding it on, trying to hold on as long as he can probably until he's actually forced by   whatever governmental constitution they have   to actually hold an election. I don't know how their system works because they can call it election right away or not. It's weird. So   Okay. Parliaments are weird. It's not set up. That they are. Yes. Yes. Ours I I I like the defined 2 years, 4 years.  

Yeah. Absolutely.   Yep.   Yeah. I like that process of ours. Yeah. But Absolutely. So he's kind of in trouble. Hopefully,   they can do something about him.   Yeah. Hopefully. Mhmm.  

[00:24:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So, you know, Sweden has always been one of those countries that every that that we're always told that we need to follow their example and, you know, with their humanitarian   stuff, with immigration   and all that other stuff. Uh-huh.   Well, ran across the news article   here. Sweden   now plans to to boost payments   up to 34,000   for 2 migrants   to leave the nation   and go back home.   They're gonna pay people $34,000   US Uh-huh.   350,000   Swedish kronars  

[00:25:03] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:25:05] Jamon Fries:

To go back home if they're there illegally.  

[00:25:09] Jesse Fries:

I I   sounds pretty sweet to me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.  

[00:25:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. 1 one of the, one of one of the concerns that I might have with that is how many people are going to go there illegally now just to get that 34,000  

[00:25:25] Jesse Fries:

and then go back out? Yeah. Hopefully, they have some stipulation in the law stating,   the time limit. Yeah.  

[00:25:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It it's like a it's   it's like 35   they're increasing it by 35 times.   It used to be right now, currently, that that's gonna take effect in 2026.  

[00:25:44] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:25:45] Jamon Fries:

Right now, they can receive up to 10,000 Krona per adult   and 5,000 Krona for per family with a cap of 40,000 Krona,   and they're bumping that up to 350,000   in in 2026.  

[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:

Nice.  

[00:26:02] Jamon Fries:

Nice. Nice. In in in 23 Uh-huh. In 2023,   they had one person   take that deal and go back home.  

[00:26:13] Jesse Fries:

Only one?  

[00:26:15] Jamon Fries:

Yep. One person.  

[00:26:19] Jesse Fries:

Well, I can   take, the 34,000   or I can stay here and make more than that. Just based Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Living off the dole. Yeah. It's, yep.   Yeah. Weird. It makes sense, though. They have to do something. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it it's get it's gotten out of control. It really has. It really has. Apparently, Germans, like, Germany is moving in the other way, though.   Are they? Yeah. They just signed a deal with Kenya   to   now the numbers are kinda apparently from my brother-in-law. The numbers aren't fully   vested, but the news story I saw was that   Germany has allowed   to bring in   250,000   Kenyans   of,   skilled and semi skilled workers into Germany   to try to   prop up their economy.  

So Okay.  

[00:27:16] Jamon Fries:

Well, I don't I don't see a problem with that because, you know, that's legal immigration.   No. I you yes. I've never had a problem with legal immigration. Well, the Germans do.   Yeah. Well, I mean,   I I I said that to The Germans have always had a problem with anyone that's not them. Yeah. No kidding. I sent that to my brother-in-law.  

[00:27:35] Jesse Fries:

And he   he was, like, going, I'm not going to Germany.   Because   there are a bunch of racists over there.  

[00:27:44] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yep.   Absolutely.  

[00:27:48] Jesse Fries:

So yeah. And he said he'd probably have to work harder there than he does at in Kenya.   So he's not willing to do that. So   Yeah. Yeah. I I could definitely understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Germans work. You know, that's one thing they do. It's,   but yeah. That's a good idea.   Yeah. It is.   Let's see here.   Another   thing.   Oh, it looks like there's a study   that,   said that keto diets are bad for you.   But then when you get, like, down into it   and you, like, compensate for, like, weight and everything like that   Yeah. It's no different than   not keto. So I I don't know. Yeah.  

It it it was this whole study that it went on and on and on. It's saying about how bad keto is, it can cause,   higher rates of diabetes and everything like that.   Wait. What? Yeah. Yeah. 20% higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.  

[00:28:53] Jamon Fries:

Compel How can you develop blood more how are you more how can you possibly be more likely to develop diabetes   when diabetes is glucose in the blood,   which is   something that's from carbohydrates,   which you don't eat on keto.  

[00:29:11] Jesse Fries:

Well,   this was from the thing that says, eating high foods and saturated fats can lead to weight gain, but we know they also lead to insulin resistance,   which is one of the causes of type 2 diabetes   independently of weight gain.   But when they did actually controlled it out,   did a control, it was basically   no difference   than just regular   population. So,   yeah, I thought it was kinda funny. It's like there's a huge story and then it means nothing.   What was that? Is that a recent study? Yeah. Yeah. It just came up. Yep.  

[00:29:49] Jamon Fries:

Because most of that's been debunked to, like, 10, 15 years ago now. Right. Right. Yeah. No. It's,  

[00:29:57] Jesse Fries:

it was a new study that came out. I don't know why. It's   Wow.   Yeah.   Yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's called diabetes and   med metabolic   syndrome,   clinical research and reviews.   So   well, that's the journal that it's in. So  

[00:30:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Oh, you know, anytime you deal with the metabolism,   people are different. So, you know, there may be somebody that was negatively affected by it. Somebody may have may have had a better chance of getting diabetes because they were on keto, but the likelihood of it is insanely low, I would think.  

[00:30:37] Jesse Fries:

No clue. No clue. I just find it funny.   You you read a headline and then you're going, wait a minute. What was in here actually didn't say that, but okay.  

[00:30:46] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that that's that's kind of how most studies are done. Yeah. Exactly. You know, you you very rarely actually   they I I've seen I've read sub so many studies that   claim to have to have proven one thing,   and   sometimes they even prove the exact opposite.  

[00:31:06] Jesse Fries:

Sometimes. Sometimes. And then also,   it's been proven that   studies really aren't good because there's so much plagiarism.   They just make a fact, they just add new data here or there.   It's like we can't even believe the studies. So it's like if you hear a study, just, like, go you know, whatever.  

[00:31:25] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yeah. Well, I've heard of I've heard,   of a few   where   they just   you know, it was with food related studies. I've I've read a few where   not only did they   not only did they,   what's the word I'm looking for? Not only did they   fudge the numbers a little bit Mhmm.   But they also   just completely   left out a lot of the stuff that these people had been eating.  

[00:31:58] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:32:00] Jamon Fries:

You know, I   mean   yeah. The no. It's just there's,   you you can't trust studies. You just can't.  

[00:32:09] Jesse Fries:

A lot of times, you really can't. You really can't. No. Yeah. It's it's like   one person has this one idea, and then they do a study on it, and it's just  

[00:32:18] Jamon Fries:

a stupid idea. So it's like Well yeah. And the problem with most studies is that they they go into it   with the idea of I am going to find this result,   and so they'll fudge what they need to to get that result. Yep. Yep.   Looks like the study That's just that's just not scientific study.  

[00:32:39] Jesse Fries:

There's this other study that I ran across. It's,   it it was about bird migration.   Yeah. And, basically, they they wanted to know why birds migrate.   And so they   were able to put, like, heartbeat sensors on birds, blackbirds in Germany. Okay.   Yeah. And some   migrated,   to the south   towards the Mediterranean,   and then others just stayed in Germany.   And so they looked at it and   they're going, it makes no sense why they migrated.   They go about like how much energy   they actually used up,   basically saying   that their idea was that birds migrate   because it takes   more energy to stay in the cold than it does to   live in the south. And so this was their idea. It's about all about energy.  

Okay?   I always thought it was all about food. This is what I'm  

[00:33:39] Jamon Fries:

that's exactly   that was my exact When the snow when the snow covers up all the food, they got to move somewhere else where there's no snow. I mean, you know?  

[00:33:50] Jesse Fries:

That was my exact thought. It's like, I thought it was all about food. So they don't have to hunt for food. They could just easily get the food off the tree instead of going through the snow,  

[00:33:59] Jamon Fries:

you know? Yeah. And and with with, with waterfowl,   it's about open water.   Yeah. Exactly. When when the lake freezes over, they can't exactly dive to to eat off of the to eat the the sea the the weeds on the on the bottom of the lake. Yeah. Yeah. So so these people apparently,  

[00:34:18] Jesse Fries:

his name was Scott Yanko,   Yanko, whatever it is, animal ecologist   at the University of Michigan.   So   but he conducted the research while he was at Yale. So but he he he's stupid. Come on. It's about food. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah.  

[00:34:38] Jamon Fries:

It's all about it's all about food and housing, basically.  

[00:34:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's   he he said in because he he got stuck on this idea of energy. Right? Yeah. And so apparently throughout this, he was he was saying   that in the cold, yeah, it had   they use more energy to stay warm and everything like that. But the birds that migrate,   they have to use that same energy, but in the migration   to fly that   thousands of miles, 500 miles or whatnot,   they have to save up energy to fly that 500 miles. And so in the end, it's a net zero,   basically,   versus the birds that stay.   It's like   it's about food, guys.   Yeah. Yeah.  

You know, the the birds the birds that stay, it's because they have a local food source. Right. Exactly. They don't have to worry about about not having food. Yeah. Otherwise, they'd be moving too. This is like one guy gets stuck on something and then does a study on it, you know? Well, you know? Yeah. He probably just needed money to justify his job anyways, and you always have to do a study.   But in general, this was a yeah.   It makes no sense. It's about food, guys. Just saying. Yep. Yep. It's always about food. Exactly.   Oh, wow. Yeah.  



[00:36:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So did you hear   about,   what the   can't remember his name.   One of the,   a police officer down in Florida,   he had   he had he had gone into school   and told people that he had a kill list   and showed pictures of guns and knives and swords and stuff like that. The police officer was   No. No. A kid didn't. 11 year old kid. Okay.   And, you know, I'm I'm looking at the picture at the at the weapons that the police confiscated from his house. Uh-huh.   The guns,   they all have red   nozzles.   They all have red muscles,   which means that they're fake. Right. Right. They're air all of these guns are airsoft  

[00:37:08] Jesse Fries:

guns or something or or something similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Airtech or what what was that? Yeah. The name of those water guns back in the eighties?  

[00:37:18] Jamon Fries:

I that it sounds familiar.  

[00:37:20] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They had to put the they didn't have the red thing on the front at first, and so some kids were getting killed by cops. Yep. And so they,   you know, had to abandon. Yeah.  

[00:37:30] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yeah. And, you know, the the pictures of the knives and the swords  

[00:37:34] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:37:36] Jamon Fries:

That there's so many people on on x that are saying, you know, how did this 11 year old get that kind of an arsenal?   And I'm telling you, these knives and swords that I'm seeing on this thing Uh-huh.   These are   somewhat expensive collective type swords. I'm betting that they weren't the kids.  

[00:37:55] Jesse Fries:

Ah, okay.  

[00:37:57] Jamon Fries:

I'm betting one of his parents was a was a collector of blades.  

[00:38:01] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[00:38:03] Jamon Fries:

Wouldn't die. Well, you know, police go in and they're gonna confiscate everything, of course. They're gonna take anything that's a weapon out of the house.   So, you know but I mean, these people are talking about this arsenal that this kid built up and they're you know, how how could the parents buy these kinds of guns for their kids? Right. I'm like, they're they're fake guns that can't hurt anyone. So why shouldn't they buy them for their kids? Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Yeah. I haven't heard about this story. But, anyways, the the part of the the part of the story that I found that I absolutely love and why I was trying to remember the name of   the the, officer that the sheriff that was that was doing this Uh-huh. Is   he he went he   on   Saturday, I think it was,   he went out and did a press conference   saying that basically that if you the parents,   if you're not going to parent your children   and prevent them from doing this stuff Mhmm.  

I will parent them for you.   Uh-huh. When when when when we arrest some one of these kids,   we are going to put their pictures   up in a public place.   We are going to   if we can, we are going to perp walk them in front of the media.  

[00:39:24] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:39:26] Jamon Fries:

That way,   you   get embarrassed as well.  

[00:39:30] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.   Yeah.  

[00:39:33] Jamon Fries:

I it   it's really this was a sheriff down in Florida. So   yeah. But yeah. I mean, it it's   I I don't know how I feel about that because, you   know, I don't like the concept of putting images of children out there very often. Right. Right.   Personally, especially not in that context, but at the same time,   if they're going around talking about having a kill list and showing pictures of what could be   actual guns and stuff like that   Well, yeah. You I I I kinda think that their picture needs to be out there so that everybody can be watching out for them. Well, it's a threat, so threats can be Yeah.  

[00:40:15] Jesse Fries:

You can go to jail for threats.   So yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's,   something's gotta be done. I don't know what. Oh, yeah. But,  

[00:40:25] Jamon Fries:

yeah.  

[00:40:31] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   So do you know who, Larry,   l Ellison is?  

[00:40:42] Jamon Fries:

I've heard the name, but now I don't. Okay. I know. It's on top of my head. I can't remember. He's like the CEO of Oracle.  

[00:40:49] Jesse Fries:

Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so he had this little meeting,   with the shareholders and everything like that.   And he said some things that, is causing quite a stir.   Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. This is, one of the things he said. I I have some audio here. So, let's see what, he's saying. I have a few clips from him.  

[00:41:15] Jamon Fries:

If you're playing the clip, I'm not hearing it. You're not hearing it?  

[00:41:19] Jesse Fries:

No. Okay.   Thank you.   Let me know. Let's see.   Okay. And we are back, everybody.   Hello again, everyone. Sorry about that. We are we had some technical difficulties that,   hopefully, I have,   figured out here.   If not   yeah. What can you do?  

[00:41:48] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Okay. The program's pretty new to us. Yeah. Exactly.   Exactly. It's a work in progress.  

[00:41:54] Jesse Fries:

So let's go back to what I was doing so then I can comment based off of what Yeah. So let me know if you can't hear it or anything like that, but, I am let's see if I can hear it and if you can hear it. Let's see.   I can't hear it. Can you? I hear it.   I cannot hear it.   Oh,   there we go. Let's try that.   Let me know. Police, another another Can you hear?  

[00:42:22] Jamon Fries:

I hear it. Body cameras. We've Okay. Completely redesigned body cameras.  

[00:42:25] Unknown:

Our our body cameras cost $70.   Normal body camera cost,   I don't know, $7,000.   Our body cameras are simply   lenses.   22 lenses attached to your vest attached to the smartphone that you're wearing.   And we actually   take   the video that the police officer   is   by the way and and the camera's always on. You don't turn it on and off. And by the way, the way you turn it on and on, you can't turn it off. You got I'm going to the bathroom. Oracle,   I I need I need I need 2 minutes to take a bathroom break, and we'll we'll turn it off.   The truth is we don't really turn it off.  



[00:43:06] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So you were saying that you're fine with them not turning it off. Like, it doesn't actually turn off.  

[00:43:13] Jamon Fries:

Well, I'm I'm fine. I'm I'm I don't mind   it being on while they're on duty.   Well, right. But for for bathroom breaks, for eating lunch, and stuff like that, it should definitely be off.  

[00:43:28] Jesse Fries:

Like, off off?   Off off. Yes. Off off. Okay. Okay. I can see where you're going with that now. Listen to this one.   Oh, hold on. Nope. Nope. That didn't.   I I didn't hear anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need to   okay. Let's try that again. What we do is  

[00:43:50] Unknown:

we record it Hear that? So no one can see it. Yep. But no one can get into that recording   without a court order. So you get the privacy you requested,   but   court order   you get a court order,   we will, you know, judge, you know, can order I I wanna look at that. This so called bathroom break.  

[00:44:13] Jesse Fries:

So, basically,   it's not ever off.   Just just certain time frames.  

[00:44:23] Jamon Fries:

It just basically some sometimes they   supposedly   put   the the problem that I have with that though   is   anytime you're doing something wireless like that   Mhmm.   It's it's not confidential. It's not private. They say it can only be opened with a court order. Right.   But  

[00:44:45] Jesse Fries:

all you have to do is hack in. Exactly. And then And you see everything. And then, also, somebody has it. They have it. Yeah. Oracle has it. Why should we trust them?   Why should we trust the overlords at Oracle instead of our overlords in the government?  

[00:45:01] Jamon Fries:

You know? Yeah. I'd I'd much I'd much rather trust the police officers to turn the the body cam on and off   than to trust some third party   to have   everything.  

[00:45:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I just it it sounds so odd. And that means nothing is actually private.   That means that also means that   you go into a bathroom   and there's a cop there.   That means no matter what,   it's not private.  

[00:45:29] Jamon Fries:

If if their camera is pointed in the wrong direction,   you suddenly put your junk out there on on   potentially  

[00:45:37] Jesse Fries:

TV. But what also the audio and everything like that, you know? Yeah. It's like yeah. No. I  

[00:45:43] Jamon Fries:

do. Yeah. No. We don't we don't need to we don't need to listen to   what they discuss in the in the squad car for the entire day as they're driving around. We don't need to listen to what they're discussing while they eat. We don't need to see what they're   what they're   discussing while they eat. We don't need to see what they're eating. Well, to   me,  

[00:45:58] Jesse Fries:

that's, to me, if you're driving around, that's, you're on the job for the cop.   So I am completely fine with that recording and everything like that. I really am.   Yeah.   Lunch,   that that's a waffly one to me.   Generally, if you're off the clock, you should be off the clock   Yes. Including everything.  

[00:46:22] Jamon Fries:

But Now now with cops, sometimes relations to that is cops are to are on the job 247.   Good. Even if even if they're off duty, there's they still carry their firearm. Well, right. They still have a badge with them. No. It's not good. They're you know, there there really is no such thing as off duty for a police officer.  

[00:46:43] Jesse Fries:

But you only wear the camera while you're on duty. Shift or not. Right. But you only wear the camera when you're on shift. Exactly. Exactly. So I but it's like the bathroom I'm sorry. That's a privacy issue. Even for the cop, it's for everybody. You know, that's just Yeah.   We we have these privacy laws for a reason. So it's like Yep. That that just is not kosher to me. But this this is Larry Ellison, he seems quite excited about this sort of thing.  

[00:47:07] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, of course he does. It's gonna make him a lot of money  

[00:47:11] Jesse Fries:

and give him a lot of power. I know. I know. And then here here's another,  

[00:47:15] Unknown:

clip from him. Your your body cams will be transmitting that.   The police will be on their best behavior   because we record we're we're constantly recording, watching, and recording everything that's going on.   Citizens will be on their best behavior   because we're  

[00:47:31] Jesse Fries:

Why do we need to be on our best behavior?  

[00:47:34] Jamon Fries:

We don't.  

[00:47:36] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly.  

[00:47:39] Jamon Fries:

I mean, quite honestly, do any citizen do you think they're really gonna   think about the fact that the cop might have a body camera on them? I know. This this this guy,  

[00:47:52] Jesse Fries:

it's like,   we're not gonna think about it. It's like he thinks that AI can solve everything and everything like that. Yeah. Because there's just another bit in it. Is it is it in this clip? Let me see if it's in this clip here.  

[00:48:05] Unknown:

Citizens will be on their best behavior   and it's it's   unimpeachable. The the cars   the cars have camera, you know, cam cameras on them. Alright. We we have I think we have a squad car here someplace.  

[00:48:22] Jesse Fries:

Unimpeachable,   apparently, even though there's deep fakes. All this stuff can be faked.   Oh, yeah. Yeah.   I  

[00:48:31] Jamon Fries:

it it it Oracle is not a part of the federal law enforcement.   Therefore,   they don't you can't trust them   with   the cameras.  

[00:48:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. Wait. I don't trust anybody with it. I I don't trust anybody with all this. It's  

[00:48:52] Jamon Fries:

yeah. There is no such thing as unimpeachable.  

[00:48:54] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[00:48:55] Jamon Fries:

It's not possible. Especially with deep fakes and everything like that. Okay. Yeah. Let's face it. That. But, I mean, if if you get us if you catch a quick snippet of a conversation   that somebody's having with another person   Mhmm. You don't get the entire conversation. You just hear that little tiny bit,   and that little tiny bit may sound really bad. Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[00:49:18] Jesse Fries:

I have one last clip here. Let let let's see what it is. Okay. This one is a bit longer. Maybe we won't listen to the whole thing, though.  

[00:49:25] Unknown:

It's not people that are looking at those cameras. It's AI that's looking at the camera. No. No. No. You can't do this. It would be like a shooting. That's gonna be immediately that's gonna be an an event that's immediately   rip an alarm is gonna go off. It's gonna be and, we're gonna we're gonna   have supervision. I know every police officer is gonna be supervised   at all times.   And the and the supervision will, and and if there's a problem,   AI will report the problem and report it to same thing with we have drones. We just if there's something going on Yeah. So,  

[00:49:58] Jesse Fries:

yeah. So do we trust AI to actually get everything right? Oh,  

[00:50:02] Jamon Fries:

hell no.  

[00:50:03] Jesse Fries:

And does it   matter if it's AI or a person looking at it? You still have no privacy.   Yeah.   Nobody   nothing has ever said, oh, if it's AI,   that's fine. As long as a single person doesn't see this information, that's fine. So, basically, if we have a government that is that we have all this AI stuff on, we have no rights against it because it wasn't a person?   Is that  

[00:50:30] Jamon Fries:

what I'm kinda hearing? That's what that's what that's what I'm hearing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   But, no. No. That that's not that's not right. Right? Exactly.  

[00:50:42] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[00:50:43] Jamon Fries:

It doesn't matter if it's AI watching. That's not the reason   that it's not good to do that.   The reason that it's not good to to have it running all the time like that and use it to to   I mean,   someone   jaywalks,   and that AI is gonna say that's breaking a law and notify the police   Exactly. That they need to go after this person because they jaywalked.  

[00:51:07] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. And we've all made dumb mistakes as kids. We still make some dumb mistakes.   And   we would have to lock everybody up, basically, except for   No. We'd pretty much have to lock everybody up.   Or   we would have to get rid of, like, all the consequences for laws because you just can't lock everybody up.  

[00:51:30] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[00:51:32] Jesse Fries:

So it's it's completely   it just doesn't make sense, you know, always having to be good, always   never making a mistake. It is not human nature. It's not No, it's not. No.   You you know We are very fallible.   Exactly.   Exactly. We've all made mistakes. We've all done stupid things.   You know? And so to   for everybody to be caught by in their stupid mistake,   you know, it's like,  

[00:52:01] Jamon Fries:

no. No. Yeah.   You know, I I I   I will never trust AI to do anything.   Exactly.   The sim the even, you know, just   one reason for that   is, you know, there's all those AI artwork things out there where you can where you can type something in and it'll it'll paint you a picture with what you think it that you wanna see. Uh-huh.   I've done that a few times.   And   it's like so so they've got the arm,   but the hand is, like, 10 inches away from the arm. Right. Right. Right.   If it can't even get that right.   I mean, that's simple.  

[00:52:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. There is that's getting better and everything like that.   Yeah. It's it's a it's a learning process even for AI, but   Oh, yeah.   You know, to me, the the way I think about it is   even if there's no mistakes or anything like that   Mhmm. It's a bad system.   Yeah. We shouldn't have the Overlord watch   completely   Yeah. Monitoring   everything like that. It's like, oh, if it has a camera,   it it it could be used. So, basically, like, if it's my Mac, could they just, turn on the camera and not let me know that they're using the camera, and then they can peek inside the house?   You know? And they can figure out what illegal I'm doing here, even though it's just a house, so I'm not doing anything illegal. But you you you know what I mean? It's like Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  



[00:53:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean,   it reminds me so much of a TV show from back in the day.   I can't remember the name of it, but, basically, this guy had written an AI program   that would that was supposed to help,   curtail crime. Mhmm.   And eventually, it got to the point where where   everyone had a specific   ID number,   and   they you were monitored   247.   It could it anywhere that there was a camera,   it had you locked in. Yep.   And so all it took was just I mean, you you think about what they do in China now, where   if you've if you're someone that they deem as not being a as not being a good true communist  

[00:54:24] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:54:26] Jamon Fries:

You can't even go and buy a buy a train ticket   because   they're they've   got your picture out there, and as soon and you have to look into a camera before you can buy your train ticket, and it won't let you.  

[00:54:40] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Social credit score. Yep.   Yeah. Yep. I mean,  

[00:54:45] Jamon Fries:

that's what that leads to.  

[00:54:48] Jesse Fries:

Well, exactly. Exactly. We kinda have it already, but, yeah, it's,   yeah.   It is what it leads to. It really is. It's,   yep.  

[00:55:00] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I really don't like that. I hope   that that never actually pans out and that never actually comes true.  

[00:55:08] Jesse Fries:

It probably will, though. Well, they already do it a bit. See, that's the thing. You know, it's like they have AI, like, for schools and everything like that.   So, to look for guns or weapons of any sort, even though sometimes Which is obviously working wonderfully.   Exactly. Exactly. Even though sometimes it's a notebook.   You know, it it's just So   Yeah. We we we are we are already   somebody some people and I kinda agree. I'm not fully there yet, but some people say we're already past 1984.   You know, the book and everything like that.   Almost 1984. Some people say we're already past that.  

I'm not sure if I completely agree with   that. Maybe in some aspects,   actually, like,   monitoring   everybody's actions and everything like that. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. But Yeah.   Just in general, I wouldn't. But then, if you're living it, would you know? So that's the Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:56:10] Jamon Fries:

And you wouldn't know until it starts affecting your life, you know, that in China, they know.  

[00:56:15] Jesse Fries:

Well, do they? You you know, I don't know if they know. It's, Well, the  

[00:56:20] Jamon Fries:

the the people that are good communists and have the good scores might not know. Right. Right. Right.   But everyone else knows.  

[00:56:29] Jesse Fries:

Right. But it might the Chinese are a different people too. So, you know, it's like Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Also, do they even know what 1984 is? You know, because it's an English book, probably. Probably not. So, you know, Orwell hears English. So,   you know,   it's famous for us   in the English speaking world, but,   is it for everybody else? That's I guess that's kind of the question with that, you know? It's like.  

[00:56:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, I mean, plus, you know, the different cultures and everything else like that. There's there's there's things that are much more acceptable in some cultures than in others and Exactly.   Exactly. So so there there's no really, you know, we we can't put our values   onto   people somewhere else because they don't have they may not have the same value structures that we have.  

[00:57:18] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly.   But, yeah, just in general, stop recording everything. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's just,   crime really hasn't gone down.   Yeah. So   they they they say   the federal government says that it has, but then a lot of big cities aren't reporting to the FBI   and so on and so forth. So, yeah, it's like   nothing's gotten better. There's still a lot of murders. There's still a lot of this, a lot of robberies and everything like that. So it's like   how Yeah. All this technology hasn't helped anything. Yes. We have Ring doorbells, so you can see a grainy picture of some guy stealing your package off of,   your doorstep, and then you can post it on next door,   You know?  

Yeah. And go, oh, look at how bad it is. Or you can also be that old guy go, these damn kids these days, they they rang my doorbell at 3 AM in the morning. It's like,   yeah. So you saw that they were teenagers and you saw that they didn't do anything. Why are you posting about it?   Yeah. Dumb teenagers   doing dumb teenage stuff   because, you know, they don't have a their brain isn't fully developed, so they're doing dumb shit. You know? It's just Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yes. Stop recording everything, people. Just saying. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.  

[00:58:42] Jamon Fries:

There's no there's no reason to record everything.  

[00:58:46] Jesse Fries:

Nope. That's why I don't have a Ring doorbell or anything like that. I'm just not gonna Yeah.   I don't want the cops to take it. I don't want I don't I don't want to yes. If there's a murder, I'll hop on as much as I can, but I'm not gonna,   yep,   peek up on my entire neighborhood all the time, watch who walks by, who who whose dog Yeah. Shat in my   yard or anything like that. I who cares? Yeah. I do have a How so? There was a camera attached   outside my house.   Mhmm. I just kept the camera on.   Not on. It's unplugged.   There's nothing there.  



[00:59:23] Jamon Fries:

But it's they Well, I mean, that's honestly, that's the best thing to do. That's the best way to do it. Right? Because as soon as they see that camera, they're gonna know they're gonna think that that's that it's on Exactly. And that they shouldn't do anything. And it's not a ring doorbell. It's an actual, like, mounted camera. So it's like,   yeah. Yeah. If if I were if I were to live in a much better house than I live in Uh-huh.   I I would have absolutely no problem buying a whole bunch of security cameras, very obvious security cameras Uh-huh. And putting them up all around my property.   Uh-huh. They'd never be hooked up to anything when I put them up there.  



[01:00:01] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.  

[01:00:02] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. Maybe it's not people It it does well, I mean, it it does the same thing that that that a live camera will do, which is it keeps honest people honest. Exactly. You can't do anything about the people that aren't honest. That is very true. I mean, they're they're gonna do what they're gonna do. Mhmm.  

[01:00:20] Jesse Fries:

True. True.   What else do you have for us?  

[01:00:26] Jamon Fries:

I   was,   looking at, some stuff from Elon Musk and,   noticed this article about SpaceX.  

[01:00:35] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:00:36] Jamon Fries:

SpaceX was fined   by the EPA   Okay.   For   dumping   potable water  

[01:00:48] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:00:50] Jamon Fries:

On their launch pad to cool it down.  

[01:00:53] Jesse Fries:

Who would know?  

[01:00:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   They were fined a $140,000   for dumping potable water on the ground, which was used to to cool down the launch pad at right after a rocket launch.  

[01:01:14] Jesse Fries:

What was wrong with that?  

[01:01:17] Jamon Fries:

They didn't apply for permission to dump that water.  

[01:01:26] Jesse Fries:

Love it.  

[01:01:27] Jamon Fries:

Love it. I just And they and they were told that if they didn't pay that fine,   they would not be allowed to launch any more rockets from there.  

[01:01:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. The So, yeah, they had to pay the fine.   Yep. Yep.  

[01:01:43] Jamon Fries:

Because they didn't have a permit to dump potable water.  

[01:01:47] Jesse Fries:

That that's funny.   I've been hearing about, like, the FAA finding them for this or for that and everything like that too. It's like Yeah. The  

[01:01:56] Jamon Fries:

the they they find them, like, 600 and some $1,000   for 2 launches   that something something in their application form or something like that. There there was, like,   1 or 2 things that didn't go the way it was supposed to. Yeah. Something about, like, a communications tower using a different Yeah. Like Yeah.  

[01:02:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's   it's getting stupid. It really is. It's It really is.  

[01:02:24] Jamon Fries:

There was, Elon Musk joked about, the FAA once.   He was in a   little show that he was doing. He,   said, you know, it's kind of really   sad   when   I can build a large   rocket   in this, and it takes longer   for people in the FAA to move a piece of paper from one desk to another.  

[01:02:55] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. That's about right. That's about right.   Well, what was it? It was like,   like, right after,   one of his launch vehicles,   after it toppled over just recently, like, a month ago or something like that. Yeah.   And then   I can't remember who it was. Maybe it was the FAA. But basically, they decided to,   like, pause everything, all his launches and everything like that because this one rocket that had launched 23 times and landed successfully   tipped over. And so they wanted to know what was going on, so they stopped. It's like, dude, 23 times it's pretty So was it was it on its relanding? Yeah. It was on the relanding. Yeah.   23 times it being recovered. I mean, shit's gonna go wrong. Right? It's like, I'm go that's a good track record. It's like everybody was like Yeah. What what this was on, like, while it was landing, not not anything else. It was just right It doesn't it doesn't affect the launch. It does doesn't it doesn't make change the safety of the astronauts or whatever or the cargo. Oh, yeah. I know. It's it's and it was just right on the pad. It it was it just it it toppled over, like, on the while it was on the pad, you know, as it was coming down onto the pad itself. So it was like Yeah.  

Yeah. It had done its job. It just it just wasn't recoverable. I mean, you know, that's not a problem. It was. I don't even know if it wasn't recoverable. I I I don't know what the damage was on it. Okay. So they they would have had to do at least a little bit of repair to it. Probably so. Probably so. But, yeah, I don't know. It's it's quite funny what they're doing with him. Oh, yeah. But then they also use him to do everything. So it's like Yes. Yes. Which is hilarious.   So okay. So what we're gonna do,   the DOD over here is gonna give you $10,000,000, and then over here, the FAA will fine you   half a $1,000,000   for the same launch.  

Yep.   Well,  

[01:04:54] Jamon Fries:

that and I I   I I saw   saw a video of,   Biden   talking about   some I didn't quite understand exactly what was going on, but he was talking about how Elon Musk is also doing   stuff overseas, and that was a problem.   Well, yeah. Of course. Ever since ever since he ever since he came out and   supported Trump  

[01:05:23] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. That's when all of this started happening to him. Well, yeah. Once he became conservative, everybody turned against him   Yeah. On the left. Tesla became not,   a good thing anymore and everything like that. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[01:05:40] Jamon Fries:

It's the way the world works, I guess.  

[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. He's he really should just kept his mouth shut, but, you know   Yeah. Yeah. That's not who Elon Musk is. He's not the guy that keeps his mouth shut. So it's No. No. He's not. Yeah. He's like Trump in that way. You know? It's like,   why'd you say that? Okay. Whatever. Let's move on with our life. But yeah. Yep. Yep.   Anything else? Yeah. Is that about all you got for me? Yeah. Continuing on with, with with with Musk. Uh-huh.  

[01:06:14] Jamon Fries:

I   for a long time, you know, I've I've looked at Starlink,   and I've,   you know, I really haven't seen much of a reason for it, especially here in the US. You know? Mhmm. I mean,   the I I I I do know that it's a very good product.   Uh-huh. But I hadn't really thought of, you know, all of the ways that it could be used.   And then I read it ran across a couple of articles,   and United Airlines   is now you is has a 100 planes that they've set up with Starlink now   so that you have so that you have the,   the Wi Fi throughout the entire flight, which I mean, you can't do that with anyone else. Right. Right.   And they're also they're put also putting them on the cruise liners and stuff like that. So, I mean, the I I know that it can be done, but I've the the Wi Fi on a plane has never been very good. Right. Same with on a ship, on shipboard.  

It's never been decent   decent. And now they're getting you know, now with Starlink, there's the potential of 200 megabyte up and down you know, 200 megabyte down,   which is pretty good for for that. I mean, it does pretty much everything you'd want it to. Mhmm.   That's pretty cool. So, yeah, that was yeah. Just the, advancements. I also heard that,   that they were using Starlink to   communicate with the astronauts up in space.   Right. So the the it it's not like all of the the Internet signal is coming down. It's also going up.   Okay. So   so the,   the last shuttle that that Musk launched up that they just came back on,   You know, it was a it was a commercial   people. It wasn't it wasn't like NASA that went up. Uh-huh.  

And   I guess   they flew   further. It's the first ever commercial spacewalk.   So people that were not NASA NASA astronauts   were actually able to to go out into space outside of the vehicle. But they're able to peek their head out. Yeah. They they climbed up a ladder. Yes. Yeah. And then they they held onto the ladder, and then they climbed back down it. But, you know, I mean, that's still   awesome. No. It is. It is. To be able to be completely outside of the the the outside of the vehicle at that point in time for someone  

[01:08:46] Jesse Fries:

not an astronaut is completely awesome. Oh, yeah. No. It was like the first spacewalks,   that we did because   Yep. Or the Russians did. Because at first,   they they were always tethered   to because they didn't have the big air tanks on the back of them. Yep. And that's what this was. It was tethered in because they need the air supply and everything like that. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. It was pretty cool. But there's also something else that they did with that with that mission. Uh-huh.  

[01:09:14] Jamon Fries:

They flew   the furthest from the earth   that we have been in the last 50 years.  

[01:09:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Since, we went to the moon. Yep. Yep. Yeah.  

[01:09:26] Jamon Fries:

So, I mean, I I really like that that they're starting to actually go out there again. They're starting to starting to make moves towards going out again instead of just always being in low earth orbit. Well, the idea is to get to the moon and then Musk really wants to get to Mars. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It it is cool. Yeah. If if the government ever lets them with all of their fines and their regulations   and stuff like that,  

[01:09:51] Jesse Fries:

I I could see Musk just go, okay. You don't want that? I'm moving everything overseas.   Yeah. Yeah. I could see him do it. Yeah. Yeah. It's,  

[01:09:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, one of the one of the posts on on there for the,   for the   for the,   EPA one   was,   how much would it cost to just move it across the river and go into Mexico   to put your launch pad in Mexico?  

[01:10:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It it wouldn't take much. It's just across the Rio Grande. I I I've been down there. Yeah. Yeah. I've actually seen it. I've been right there.   Okay. Yeah. And,   yeah, it's not far at all.   Yeah. Cool. Cool.   Well, yeah. That's all I have for today. You? That's all I've got. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, everybody, thank you so much for listening to us. Today was kind of a cluster.   Did not go very well. I may have to edit some of that out. I I'll try not to edit too much out, but I will see what I have to edit out just to make it cohesive.   Yeah. But if you guys can support us, with whatever you can to help produce the show, that would be great. We do have expenses here, and any help you can get to help   mitigate those expenses would be great.  

You just go   the funding link is on your podcast app. You can also go to the website.   I think it's, mindless,   meanderings.com.   Go there, and there you can click on the support link, and you can help us out. We take PayPal or whatever you wanna use or do the Bitcoin digital thing through your podcast app. That would be great. Thank you so much for that.  

[01:11:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Thank you very much. And,  

[01:11:34] Jesse Fries:

this has been the mindless meanderings,   and, we are always live roughly around 11 AM Wednesdays   CST.   So please check us out.   And until then, we will see you, same pod time, same pod app.  

[01:12:22] Jamon Fries:

So I'm hearing dead air now.