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Hegseth't Tie, Waymo, No Kings, and much more.

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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:21) Opening

(00:00:55) Tie colors, flags, and a mini geopolitics riff

(00:06:40) Wisconsin bracelets controversy and political civility

(00:08:22) BlueSky joins, blocks, and trolling culture

(00:10:17) "No Kings" protests, counterprotests, and IRL trolling

(00:16:29) Shutdown politics: power, presidents, and framing

(00:18:58) Who protests and why: left vs right culture

(00:20:13) Where did extremist groups go? Speculation and satire

(00:21:42) Viral clips: slogans, kids, and a mom modeling dialogue

(00:23:55) Rare earths deal with Australia and China trade dynamics

(00:24:39) FHA rule changes, housing demand, and wages

(00:28:28) Bering Strait tunnel idea: rail, routes, and logistics

(00:32:12) I-5 shutdown for Marine training and political reactions

(00:35:22) Navy origins, cars as weapons, and crowd tragedies

(00:38:33) Tax expensing change fuels private jet boom

(00:40:47) Security lapses? Hunting stand near Air Force One zone

(00:43:30) Daylight heists: Louvre jewels and art theft season

(00:45:26) Israel–Hamas ceasefire strains and internal crackdowns

(00:48:35) Crowd sizes, old footage, and AI memes

(00:51:10) Late-night comedy, Trump jabs, and tone

(00:52:24) Greta Thunberg detention claims and skepticism

(00:55:10) Prince Andrew stripped of titles

(00:57:07) EU expansion without votes? Power vs representation

(01:02:06) Housekeeping: support, emails, and donations

(01:03:33) Business & tech: AWS outage and DNS

(01:06:21) Tariffs, Walmart, and reshoring manufacturing

(01:08:02) AV safety: Waymo school bus incident and testing limits

(01:12:49) Beyond Meat slump, bugs-for-dinner debates

(01:16:47) Philosophy corner: the "great feminization" thesis

(01:23:05) Science bites: redefining obesity beyond BMI

(01:24:18) Carbs, insulin resistance, and moderation in diet

(01:28:39) Lead in protein powders: plant vs whey risks

(01:31:40) Wrap-up riff: beans, meat, and sign-off

[00:00:22] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon to everybody.   It is   Monday,   October 20, and we are live with episode number 72 of the Mindless Meanderings.   I'm Jesse Fries, and I'm trying to figure out if his tie was white, blue, and red or blue, red, and white, or was it red, white, and blue? That's what I'm trying to do.  

[00:00:44] Jamon Fries:

Okay.   And I'm Jamin Freese, and,   yeah. That sounds way too philosophical for me at this time of day.   No. It's this whole it's Pete Hegseth. He wore a tie  

[00:00:57] Jesse Fries:

at,   the state dinner or whatever with Zelensky. Right? Because Zelensky was in town. And he wore a tie   where it could be depicted either as   white, blue, and red because of stripes. So it could be white, blue, and red, or it could be blue, red, and white, or it could be   seen as red, white, and blue. Just depends on where you start. Okay?   Uh-huh. I I guess who else's colors are   in that configuration of some sort?   Who's that? Yeah. Russia. So now everybody's going, oh, it was this whole,   thing to,   he was showing support for Russia.  

[00:01:36] Jamon Fries:

Wait. What?  

[00:01:37] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Yeah. They were saying that it he was wearing the Russian flag.   Even though it could be viewed any which way, you know, it's but   yeah.  

[00:01:48] Jamon Fries:

I I'm sorry. But that combination   worn by someone in America is always deemed to be as red, white, and blue patriotic colors of The United States.  

[00:01:59] Jesse Fries:

No. I I I I agree. I agree.   It's just   yeah. Yeah. It   it's I I I don't get it because the Russian flag gets white, then blue, then red. Right? And so the the first colors on the time tie beyond the knot, because it's how he tied it. The first main color after the knot, because the knot was blue. Okay? Okay. And then after that, it was really   white, blue, and red, which is the Russian flag, really, in color. But the way this is sequenced, it could be red, white, and blue, blue, red, and white. It it just  

[00:02:36] Jamon Fries:

yeah. I  

[00:02:38] Jesse Fries:

wow.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   It's hilarious.   The things these people make up, you know?   Yeah. Yeah. And if you go backwards, blue, white, and red, then it's the French flag. So   So he was either standing behind France, Russia, or The US. Or The UK because they're red, white, and blue too. So, you know, it's Yeah.  

[00:03:08] Jamon Fries:

Oh, god.   There's there's too many options out there. Y'all need to stop using red, white, and blue, damn it. Yeah. Yeah. I know. But so many countries use it. So many countries use it. I know. I know.  

[00:03:20] Jesse Fries:

But, yeah, I'm like, what are you this is okay. So yeah. So, apparently, there was a there's a international kerfuffle over this.  

[00:03:29] Jamon Fries:

I I guess from now on,  

[00:03:32] Jesse Fries:

the only way to say that you're patriotic to The United States is you have to have a blue field with white stars and some red in there somewhere else. Or you just wear solid color ties, you know, red, blue, white, you know, which is it's not white because nobody wears white tie except for in a tux. But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just a solid blue or red. You know, that that that's, pretty much the only option. So  

[00:03:55] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. But then but then you could be showing patriotism to any number of countries.  

[00:03:59] Jesse Fries:

I mean, you know China. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:04:04] Jamon Fries:

I mean, China's flag is all red except for a little bit of gold. So Yep. You know, I mean,   you're wearing an all red tie, you're definitely saying you're that you're back in China. Oh, yeah. Slightly 100%.   So we need to go around to every single per to every single business in The United States   and make sure that they're not wearing ties that would support other countries.  

[00:04:28] Jesse Fries:

Ex exactly. Especially, like, blue. That's like Australia right there. Because it's primarily blue. So, you know, it's   Yeah.   Yeah. And what's funny is that, you you know, the pocket square he had was an American flag.   You know? So it's   yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. That's hilarious.   Right? Right?   Nope.   Oh, and apparently, the French flag has been, like, every sequence.   French flag through   time.   It's been red, white, and blue. It's been   blue, white, and red. It's been   blue, red, and white. So it's really a French flag, like, all the history of French, you know, and then the blue, white, and red. Yeah. So yeah. You know? It's Yeah. It's I would say it's a French flag just throughout history, you know? Oh, there you go. There you go. They're more of our allies, you know?   Hey, yo. Sometimes.  

Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes. More so than Russia, you know? Yes. Yes.  

[00:05:31] Jamon Fries:

At least lately. So yeah. Yeah. Actually, it was they've always been on our side. Yeah. Yeah. We've never really been friendly with Russia.  

[00:05:40] Jesse Fries:

No. No. We really weren't.   Well, they were   a monarchy,   and then they be which we're we're never really all that friends with. And it was like a hardcore,   monarchy. You know, the king prematurely. The bazaar had pretty much all power. Yeah. And then,   from there, it turned into communism. So   and then after communism, we decided to   while they were going through that transition, we decided to screw them over capital with our capital and try to take advantage of them. Yep. So yeah, and now we got Putin.  

[00:06:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. It's amazing how our how our actions result in   things that aren't so great for us. Right? Exactly.  

[00:06:27] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. It's it's just how it is. It's just how it is.   Yep. Well, so apparently, Democrats in Wisconsin,   they were at,   it was some sort of what was it? It was a oh, it was a farmer's market. Right? Okay. And it was a Democrat,   the Democratic party,   of Wisconsin or something like that. Oh, the Winnebago,   County Democrat party booth.   They were giving out bracelets   that said, is he dead yet?   What the hell?   Yeah. Yeah. Basically, talk about Trump.   Yeah. They were also giving out other bracelets that, said   $86.47.   So, basically, get rid of kill 47 Yeah. Trump. Yeah. Yeah. And so,   apparently,   yeah, some people had some complaints. They were giving these out to children.  

Wow.   Yeah. Yeah. So some mother and many others complained to the farmer's market, and they will no longer be there. So  

[00:07:32] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I would hope not.  

[00:07:35] Jesse Fries:

Right?  

[00:07:37] Jamon Fries:

And yet, Democrats say that they that they   would never   say that anyone should do something like that. Well, of course. Of course. That that that's what they always say and everything like that, you know. So And yet, if you listen to what they actually say, they say it quite frequently.  

[00:07:54] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   Well, certain ones of them. Not all of them, of course. Oh, of course not. Of course not. There's there's always a   a bit there, you know. There's there's the crazy ones. But the Democratic party seems to be led by a lot of crazy ones lately. So It really does. Yes. Led and just in their whole,   just in their rank and file too. You know? It's Yep. Yep. They really seem to act  

[00:08:19] Jamon Fries:

yeah.   Talking about crazy ones.  

[00:08:22] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.   The White House  

[00:08:25] Jamon Fries:

and a lot of the,   government departments   decided that they were all going to join Blue Sky.   Oh, boy.   It had the White House very quickly   became the most blocked account on Blue Sky.  

[00:08:47] Jesse Fries:

That's hilarious.   That's hilarious.  

[00:08:50] Jamon Fries:

That's a good troll right there. You know? They they jumped in there saying stuff, but, you know, with   talking about the the Democrats   government shutdown and Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And, yeah, they they quickly, very quickly got blocked by many, many accounts.   In fact,   I heard   that   when Trump when when they did that, Trump was like, you know,   I wonder how long we're gonna be able to be on there. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:21] Jesse Fries:

Well, I I think Blue Sky will let them stay. I wouldn't see why they wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah.   But yeah. They they nobody on there wants them there, basically. Yeah. I'm sure there of course, there are some conservatives over there that just like to troll Democrats and,  

[00:09:37] Jamon Fries:

see what's going on and everything. So conservatives are there and not because they wanna see what other people want to think,   they're they're to troll.   Because I mean, Blue   Sky is  

[00:09:50] Jesse Fries:

is, like, everyone that thought that Twitter wasn't bad enough in the past went blue sky. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's I don't understand trolls. But, you know, they're kinda funny sometimes. So, you know, I don't understand   the mentality that goes, yeah, I wanna do that for a living. I it just or just for fun. It just doesn't make sense to me. But Yeah.   Apparently, a lot of people do.   So,   and it's funny sometimes.  

[00:10:17] Jamon Fries:

You know, one of the one of the biggest things in the news over the weekend, it made it very hard to find any actual real news, was all about the the No Kings protest. Yeah. Yeah.   And, you know, I I kept seeing   conservatives   that would go out there and, you know, be yelling   the the   yelling, like, I love Trump and stuff like that. Uh-huh.   Just to get the reaction. And,   you know,   to me,   I think that the Republican Party should be above that.  

[00:10:55] Jesse Fries:

Well,   yes and no. You know, it it's   to me, it it's the back and forth that always happens. So  

[00:11:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But, I mean, it would they're they're going there for the specific purpose   of getting beat up,   basically.  

[00:11:14] Jesse Fries:

Or or trying to see yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Just trolls in real life is basically what it is. Yes.   Yes. Exactly.  

[00:11:21] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. It you know, I mean, at which you if you troll in real life, it generally   causes  

[00:11:28] Jesse Fries:

physical harm to you. No. Yeah. It can. It can. And, you you know, technically, per the law, that's not,   a it's bad to cause harm to somebody that's spotting off against you. But, you know, it in in real life, we all realize you had it coming. You know? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's just what it was. So   yeah.  

[00:11:49] Jamon Fries:

I saw saw one picture of one video of a guy. He had he was walking in front of the crowd, you know, shouting shouting all this Trump support stuff and then started talking really bad about the Democrats.   And somebody went up and stole his sunglasses,   grabbed his sunglasses off his face and ran away.   Yeah. Yeah. The guy tried running him after after me. He, like, tripped, like, five times on himself.   There was no one around him, and he goes stumbling down to the ground.   With the   towards the end of the video, his face is, like, all bloody and stuff. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. And he did it all to himself.  

[00:12:29] Jesse Fries:

That's funny.   Yeah. The the the the no kinks protest is mostly   just whatever. You know? It wasn't a big deal. Mostly, it was   some of the TikToks were hilarious. It was like, I saw this one. It was, it was a TikTok or a post or something like that. But it was like, so when did Atlanta become 95%   white?   Yeah.   Because all the Or Chicago  

[00:12:52] Jamon Fries:

or New York. You know?   It's a bunch of boomers out there. Yeah. Those were all yeah. They're they were all boomers. They were all   older   men and women. They were all, like, 60.  

[00:13:05] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. A few younger ones. But, generally, the consensus was a bunch of boomers. Yeah. Yeah. It was a boomer for ages. I saw I saw many where many,  

[00:13:14] Jamon Fries:

many posts where there there was an older lady standing with a young kid and had the young kid saying how evil Trump was and all this stuff. Yep. Yep.   I'm like, okay. Yeah. You you you could tell just by the look in the kid's face, they were forced to be there. Oh, yeah. Of course. Where that eight year old wanted to be.  

[00:13:35] Jesse Fries:

Grandma's going, come on, kids. We're gonna go protest the president because he's like a king. And they go, okay. Because they know no better.   You know? It's,  

[00:13:46] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Yeah. And you know There was a there was a big topic that went out, a big talking point for the for the Liberals   that was saying,   well, you know, the fact that there were no pro no counter protesters   out there, there are so few of them anyways,   proves that MAGA is actually nothing. It's it's gone downhill. It Yeah. They they they tried to spin it their way.   You know So, yeah, I I look at that and I'm like, okay. So   you want us to go in counter protest. So you want us to protest that we should have a king? Well, yeah. We we which doesn't make sense. That's the only counter protest you can do.  

[00:14:28] Jesse Fries:

It's it's hilarious. You know? It's this whole no king thing, it's like he's not acting like a king. You you you No. He's not.   He's acting like a president.   You know,   one that you don't agree with. Yes. Yeah. But he's acting like a president. I don't see   and and then but then on the Republican side, the Republicans are they're saying it's un American and everything. It's like,   that's a stupid talking point in my book too to say that about the JD Vance and them were saying that. I'm like Protest protesting like that is not on America. No. It's not. There's nothing wrong with it. I have no I I see nothing wrong with it. And it was it was peaceful.   Not the nor and not the normal largely peaceful. It was actually peaceful. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

You know, because it was a bunch of white boomers is why. That that that's that's Exactly. Yes. It was a bunch of old people walking down the street. You know, it's not like they're gonna be throwing Molotov cocktails. Exactly. They all had walkers.   But, you know, also, it's like   there there there there's been this whole thing on the conservative side where they said about the snow kings protest. They go, so   you know that, it's he's not a king because he's allowing the protests to go on. You know? It's a good you you know, it actually depends on the king. Some king really does.  

[00:15:49] Jamon Fries:

Some some kings allowed you to talk bad about you. Well, they still do. Didn't. You you know? Republicans  

[00:15:55] Jesse Fries:

can go walk down the street in The UK   and say Yeah. We want a republic. We don't want a monarchy. You know? They they have the right to do this.   They can't protest anything else, but, you know, they could protest that. You know? So Yeah. It it's   it's not   so to me, that's also a fallacy. You know? It's these talking point the the talking points that Republicans have had on this I know they had to say something, but, really there is nothing good to say about it. It was a protest. It's like, okay. Congratulations. You had a protest about something that doesn't exist.  

[00:16:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   I saw I saw one comment on it that was like, well,   if, you know,   after the government shutdown, if you drink if you think Trump is truly acting like a king right now with all the firings and all the,   stopping the funding of different things Uh-huh.   You've created the king.  

[00:16:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. To stop the king, all you have to do is let government start up again. No. See, I I I thought that was a that that was a that was a good point. Like a good argument.   It was one where it it was actually using.   Exactly yeah. Yeah. But these other ones, it's like Oh, yeah. No. The other ones are all crap. Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[00:17:12] Jamon Fries:

It's the I I don't I I don't understand it because   well,   first of all, you know, like, the the Democrats saying that this proves that   the conservatives aren't   that MAGA is dead and stuff like that. Mhmm.   When have true conservatives   ever gone out and protested,   really?  

[00:17:35] Jesse Fries:

Rarely. Rarely.  

[00:17:36] Jamon Fries:

We go to work. We take care of our families.  

[00:17:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's We're we're not the protesting type, generally. No. It's the liberals that are protesting. It always is. You know? It's the,   yeah,   that that that's all it is, you know. It's during the Liberals,   that protest. Yes. Every so often,   you have some that go out and protest and everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like the,  

[00:18:01] Jamon Fries:

the anti abortion rallies and stuff like that. Right. Yeah. Stuff like that. I mean, still but it has to be very, very,   very significant   things  

[00:18:11] Jesse Fries:

that Oh, yeah. Yeah. That we feel extremely strongly about. Oh, yeah. It's like when when Trump was first elected the first time and, they did all those pussy hat,   protests and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like Republicans   didn't come out and protest against that either.   No. You you know, they there weren't counter demonstrations or anything like that. You know? It's That's just not something that we do.   Yeah. No. No. It it really isn't.   You   know, the the groups that did that,   generally, they're on the far, far right.   You you you know, like,   like the ones,   that that, like,   basically Nazis, KKK,   Proud Boys did it. I'm not sure if they're far, far right, but, you you know, they they're they're claimed to be,   you you you know, that sort of thing. You know? But, you know,   it's kind of funny that since   Trump and, like, Pan Bondi and Patel have really taken control of the DOJ   and   the FBI and everything like that,   it's kinda surprising that where did these groups go?  

Yeah. Or were they all just, I'm just saying, you know, just throw conspiracy out there, you know, just for fun, you know? Or were they actually FBI agents going around pretending to be right wing people? You know? It's just   it's like the whole j six thing, you know? It's, yeah.   Seriously, where did they go? What what happened? Yeah.   Would they be out there counter protesting this? I think they would. One would think so. Uh-huh. Yeah.  

[00:19:45] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you know, the KKK wouldn't get involved because well,  

[00:19:50] Jesse Fries:

Now they're dead. They're they're just liberal. And they're even older than boomers, generally. They're older than boomers. They're liberals.  

[00:19:57] Jamon Fries:

But also,   there weren't that many black people there.  

[00:20:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It it it was all a bunch of white boomers. That's all it was. Yeah. So   With, of course, the token black guy token this yeah. No. No. Yeah. It's,  

[00:20:13] Jamon Fries:

yeah. I mean, I   I I suppose the Proud Boys could have gone out, but   they usually   try to more counter Antifa than anything else. Well, right. Antifa was there a little bit, but, it was, But I mean, as peaceful as it was, they they didn't have a huge presence there. Yeah. Or at least they weren't they weren't the controllers of it. Yeah. They didn't wanna upset their mommy and daddies and grandpas and grandpas, you know. That's why   It's like I I saw one video.   There was a conservative   media guy,   you know, the   basically just a podcaster.  

Right. He was going through he went to a small town   that is in his area, and he was talking to people there. And he was talking to this group of young girls   that were just sitting there chanting eat the rich and stuff like that. Mhmm.   And so he got into a dialogue with him, and the girl's mom comes up and she's like and and she's trying to explain to the kid what he's asking because the kid can't figure out what he's say talking about.   The mom who's there to support her kids is like, well, what what he's what he's saying is this. So he's he's like, you need to he's basically just saying you need need to be more informed before you come out and do this.   Yeah. Yeah.  

Imagine that instead of just,   spouting things.  

[00:21:40] Jesse Fries:

You you know, it's like,   what was it? The other day was,   Columbus Day and everything like that. Yep. And we were just talking about it and everything like that with Zoe.   And she was like, is it what? Isn't Columbus a bad guy? I go, it all   No. Not necessarily. It's a complicated situation. He was a man of his times.   Even the pope was good for slavery. He he actually allowed slavery to happen and everything like that. The pope at the time. So, you know, it's like,   it's a complicated question. If you wanna blame one man, I guess he's as good as any other to blame. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think   there's much worse than him too, like Cortes and everything like that. All the other, like, actual Spanish conquistadors. Holy hell. Oh, yeah. Oh, god. They were horrible.  

They are much worse than the Italian guy. So Yeah. You know, it it it's   yeah. It's   yeah. Be educated about the situation. Otherwise Yes. It it means nothing. You just using your emotions and everything like that isn't gonna help you. It won't. Yeah. No. Absolutely. It won't help us.   See, that's also a thing. Yeah. I'll I'll get into that later. That's part of that whole,   feminist   thing. Okay. Or go to Okay. Yep. Philosophy. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:22:55] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. It it you know, that that mother, I think she did a good job. No. Yeah. She was there to support her kids, but she made sure  

[00:23:03] Jesse Fries:

that they understood what the other side was trying to say as well. No. That's a good mom. You know? You you don't have to agree, but, you know, it's good to be able to have a good dialogue. You know? Yeah. Absolutely. It's nice to see that I don't know where the mom stood on anything, but, you know, it's,  

[00:23:19] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. If you if you look only at the clothes she was wearing, she was wearing   very   she was wearing clothes that had a very liberal,   message on it. So   I'm I'm assuming she was liberal with the kids, but Got it.   She was she was the normal   American person that can listen to the other side as well.  

[00:23:41] Jesse Fries:

That's just crazy, dude. That's crazy.   Being able to listen. Who knew?  

[00:23:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Back to the federal government.  

[00:23:55] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:23:57] Jamon Fries:

Trump has signed an agreement with a risk with Australia   to purchase rare earth metals from them. Oh, nice. Nice. Nice.   Yep.   So,   hopefully, the reliance on China is going away a little bit at least. Mhmm.  

[00:24:14] Jesse Fries:

It'll at least help in the trade deal talks with them. No. Yeah. And if Australia can sell them to us, you know, there's that, you know. You know, but Australia's biggest trade partner is China. So Yes. It is.   Australia has to play both ends of that game.  

[00:24:29] Jamon Fries:

Yes. You  

[00:24:30] Jesse Fries:

know? Kind of a hard thing to do sometimes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It can get difficult.   Yep. Let's see here. What do I have? Oh, so, apparently   so Trump and whatnot back in, like, March and everything like that. They   changed the first home   buyer, the FHA   loan.   Okay. So, apparently, before this change,   anybody that was buying a home, didn't matter your immigration status,   would could get this deal.   Right. Right. And so   with with what happened is that now you have to actually be a permanent resident to be able to get the deal.   So I have a green card at least.  

And Good. Yeah. That's what I thought. You agree with that? Yeah. Yeah.   And so what has happened   is that   the   number of   or FHA loans has just plummeted, like,   plummeted from, like,   six 6%   all the way down below 1%.  

[00:25:43] Jamon Fries:

Oh, damn.  

[00:25:44] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's a huge drop. That's a huge drop. And what this also means is that,   basically,   actual   citizens and permanent residents will be able to   maybe afford more houses because housing prices will come down.   Yeah. Because all these other,   illegals and also, just temporary   residents   can't just get a free deal on a house. Because you get better loan interest rates and everything like that with the FHA   and lower amount of,   deposit that's needed and everything. Yep.   So   yeah. Yeah. It it, no.   It it sucks for me because I own a own a home, but then again Yeah.  

[00:26:30] Jamon Fries:

Homes are way overpriced. I'm just Oh, they are big time. Yeah. They really are overpriced. So hopefully this could The other thing the other thing that's gonna help drive the price of houses down and   getting rid of all the illegals.   I mean, there's gonna be so so many so, you know, price of rent should plummet because there's gonna be so many places that you can rent now Yep. Yep. With them with them going away.   Yeah. You know, I mean,   they were living somewhere.  

[00:26:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   And wages should go up a bit because they're not there to take in. In  

[00:27:04] Jamon Fries:

some places,   wages are already going up. Yeah. Yeah. In the trucking industry, they're going up. Mhmm. The, not the not the   the,   big company employees. They they haven't really seen what raise in their wages that I've heard about yet. Mhmm. But   the,   private the private truckers, the the guys who own their own trucks and Right. And run and   buy routes,   they they well, they don't buy routes, but they  

[00:27:33] Jesse Fries:

they bid on routes or Yeah. Yeah. We talked about this last time, I think. Yeah.   That was was it you that I talked about that? Yeah. Yeah. It was on the show, actually. Oh, okay.   But, yeah, those prices that I was talking to with that. Oh, well. It was me. It was $1,800 instead of 1,200. Yeah. Yeah. I remember. Yeah. And we talked about it. So You're right.  

[00:27:53] Jamon Fries:

Wow. My mind is a little bit off today. It's okay. And I'm always right. It's just what it is. So This is true. Yes. Yes. Just like I'm always right.  

[00:28:04] Jesse Fries:

Sure. Sure. We'll go with that.  

[00:28:06] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, dad dad was the first of us that was always right. Yeah.  

[00:28:10] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   I  

[00:28:14] Jamon Fries:

still I still love the song he used to sing. Oh, oh, lord. It's hard to be humble. When you're putting your birthday dinner in your way. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:28:22] Jesse Fries:

I I have that on my,   my playlist. Yep. Nice. I love it. Uh-huh. Yep.   Let's see here. Apparently,   Trump and Putin are actually talking about   connecting,   Russia and Alaska   with a tunnel.   Really?   Yep. Yep.   So,   this would   it's primarily just for economic purposes, like pipelines and stuff like that. But, yeah, it would,   yeah. And they probably using the Boring Company.   Musk's Musk's,   thing. But, yeah, it would go from,   yeah, Alaska under the Bering Strait,   to   Chukotka,   Russia.   Mhmm. So  

[00:29:12] Jamon Fries:

mhmm. And that would   definitely make   it easier to ship products  

[00:29:19] Jesse Fries:

to Russia and from Russia. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It'd be a rail tunnel. So it'd be just like the tunnel.   Yeah.   Yeah.   It   kinda makes sense, you know. It's Yeah. It does. Mhmm.   Not bad. Then it'd be yeah. Everything would be connected.   Yeah. You wouldn't actually have to use   boats,  

[00:29:43] Jamon Fries:

technically. Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. To have to have the Americas   and   Europe, China, and Asia   connected together with a non boat   thing would be really good right about now, especially with,   I don't remember if you remember, but I don't know if you remember. But, quite a while ago, we had talked I had talked about a story about the,   Panama Canal. Right. And how the drought is massively limiting the amount of of ships being able to go through it. Uh-huh.   This which means that the only   passage that a lot of those ships have would be down in all the way around South America.  

[00:30:27] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Or through the Suez, probably.  

[00:30:30] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. I mean, they they It'd be long. Yeah. Yeah.   I mean so from China to The US to the East Coast, I mean,   honestly, they could   just go into LA or something like that.   Mhmm. But that would increase the amount of truck truck traffic and rail traffic that was needed in The US. But Well, and just cost. So Oh, yeah. Because it costs more to transport via truck  

[00:30:56] Jesse Fries:

or train than,   boat. So Yeah.   Yeah. Because those ships could carry a whole buttload  

[00:31:05] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cargo. Yeah. Yeah. And for heavy,   Yeah. Well, one ship will have, what, thousands upon thousands of cargo containers. Oh, yeah. Yep. You need one semi to carry one of them?  

[00:31:20] Jesse Fries:

If you're lucky too, you know, if you if you're in a state that can do two, you know. It's a Yeah.  

[00:31:26] Jamon Fries:

It it's   no. I don't think   I don't think they   the overseas containers, I don't think they do smaller ones.   I think those are all the normal size trailers. Yeah. Possibly. And there is no state in The United States that I'm aware of unless they've changed their laws since I was driving,   where you could pull two full length trailers. Oh, okay. Okay. I I I'm not an expert. So Yeah. No. You you could pull two of the shorter trailers. You could pull three of the shorter trailers. Right. Right. But I don't think I I think if you were gonna pull two and one was gonna be long, you had to have one long and one short. Oh, okay. Because there because there's a total maximum length that that that it can be. Oh, okay. Okay. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yep.  

[00:32:13] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. Other thing, you know, kinda related to no kinks or whatnot.   Out in California, they shut down the five,   so that the marines could   shoot over the highway.   Of course, the democrats in Newsom are going, this is unprecedented.   But that base does it all the time, apparently. It's, like, constant.   It did happen to be the day before No Kings, but   Right.   And a police car did get hit by shrapnel somehow.  

[00:32:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I read that that that one of their one of the ordinances   exploded early.   Yeah. Yep. While it was directly above the interstate.  

[00:32:54] Jesse Fries:

Yep. So they're gonna,   investigate that. And then, yeah,   one cop car was hit, and then   a motorcycle cop found some shrapnel right by his bike. He wasn't hit or his bike wasn't hit. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody was injured, thankfully. But No. Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. It's just and the the Newsom and everything like that, they're just, like, calling, oh,   this is fair tactics. They're blah blah blah. But it's the marines apparently do that all the time. It's not because the base   I five, like, goes through the base, basically. It does. Yeah. So It the the the  

[00:33:30] Jamon Fries:

the the training grounds are in one area Uh-huh. And the   ordinance field is across the interstate.   Yeah. So When when you're when you're doing your training for,   for artillery   or for even as as little as the,   I can't remember what they're called, where you   drop the where you drop the little shell down into it, and it it, Oh, mortars.   Mortars. Yeah.   Whenever they're training any of that stuff, they're shooting it over the Internet, over the interstate. Yeah. So I mean, you know  

[00:34:08] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   It's it's   remind me not to drive between San Diego and LA on I 5, but, you know yeah. Yeah.   But, yeah, it's it's not   a unprecedented   thing. It's not this. It's not that. You know? It's just   the Democrats just, of course, trying to find anything, any reason to  

[00:34:31] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, honestly, it wouldn't have even made the news if it weren't for the fact that,  

[00:34:38] Jesse Fries:

that Hegseth was there that day. Well, was Vance there too or no?  

[00:34:44] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I think I think Vance was there too. Okay.   Yeah.  

[00:34:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Vance was there and Heggseth was there. Yeah. Because it was part of, like, the two fifty, two hundred fiftieth anniversary sort of thing. Yeah. Wasn't it? It was just part of that. So   Mhmm.   But  

[00:35:02] Jamon Fries:

The marines?   Well, that wouldn't be 02/1950  

[00:35:06] Jesse Fries:

for the marines. No. No. Not at all because they came after.   Yeah. That was Tripoli. That wasn't   Right.   That wasn't the revolution.   So   Nope. Not like the navy and the army. So Right. Yeah.   Apparently, our navy started with   a   fishing   boat.  

[00:35:28] Jamon Fries:

The mighty US Navy. I think if I remember correctly, that is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:35:36] Jesse Fries:

Okay. What else do we got national?  

[00:35:41] Jamon Fries:

Well, we have   so   I I'm I I brought one story in simply because   it seems to be a growing trend now,   and   I don't hear Democrats telling us that we need to ban these weapons.  

[00:36:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Which weapons are you talking about?   Cars.  

[00:36:06] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.   So many instances lately of people driving into crowds.   Uh-huh. There there was a   a bunch of people outside of a family's house at a child's birthday party. Uh-huh.   And somebody drove right into it, killed one, injured 13.  

[00:36:27] Jesse Fries:

Oh, Jesus.  

[00:36:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   That's   crazy.   A vehicle   is so much worse than a gun.  

[00:36:38] Jesse Fries:

Right. No. No. Damage that it can do. Yeah. But looks like this may have been an accident.   It it possibly was. The guy ran away, so maybe he was drunk. He was 66. So   Yeah. Maybe his license should have been taken away. That's a bit young to have your license taken away, though. It is.  

[00:36:57] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I'd I'd when I the from what I had read, there wasn't any   no one knew why what had happened. They didn't knew that it happened. So,   yeah, I mean, we don't know if he was targeting someone in the crowd. We don't know if he was just drunk off his ass driving around.   We don't know anything.  

[00:37:20] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:37:21] Jamon Fries:

But yeah, I mean, just,   you know, some there   there have been almost as many   people driving into crowds   as I've seen   mass shootings lately.  

[00:37:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's been   quite a lot,   lately. It's been because because you can take out quite a few people, unfortunately. Oh, yeah. That sort of thing. So yeah. It it's no matter what, we'll find a way to  

[00:37:51] Jamon Fries:

kill people if we wanna kill people. Not that that's not that this guy wants to do or anything like that. Right. Right. Yeah. No. But But, I mean, I yeah. I've I've always said if somebody wants to kill, they're gonna find a way to do it regardless   of if they have a gun or not. Yep. Yep. Exactly.   So Yeah. I'd I'd rather have a gun that makes noise than a knife that's silent.  

[00:38:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I could see that. I could see that. Yeah.  

[00:38:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Because you could just yeah. I I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. At least that way, you know, if if I'm not the one being shot at right then, I can get the hell out of it. Right. Right.  

[00:38:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Otherwise, you just don't know. You know? It's, Yep. Yep.  

[00:38:34] Jamon Fries:

And,   another   big news that came out,   a this is kind of an unintended   consequence  

[00:38:43] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:38:44] Jamon Fries:

Of something that Trump did. And it's   it's on it's a good consequence.   So a long a while back, Trump changed   some of the rules saying that if you make   large purchases   if a company makes a large purchase,   Mhmm. They can instead of having to deduct it from their taxes   over a,   depreciation   schedule   Right. Instead, they can deduct 100%   of it the year that they buy it. Oh, wow. Okay.   This was primarily done for farmers that are bought that have to buy, like, farm equipment.  

[00:39:21] Jesse Fries:

No. Makes sense. Makes sense. Those freaking tractors. Holy boy. Oh, yeah. Exactly.  

[00:39:26] Jamon Fries:

Exactly.   Well, one of the unintended   consequences of this is   the jet the private jet industry is booming right now.   Companies all over are placed in orders for private company jets.  

[00:39:41] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. If you could just write it off real quick. Yeah. That's, you know,   that's actually not bad investment, you know. It's No. It's not.  

[00:39:51] Jamon Fries:

Especially for these large companies out there that are that spend   millions just on having their people fly all over the place using the public transport,   using the the private  

[00:40:03] Jesse Fries:

airlines. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And for the CEO to be able to fly when they actually need to fly, you know, it's   Yeah. Absolutely. When you're when you're all over the country or whatnot, you need to be able to just pick up and go. It's   without any   schedule of,   of,   commercial jets, you know. It's Yeah.   That you might not get to see it on, you know. So  

[00:40:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Because, I mean, there are some places that commercial jets only have, like, one flight a week to a week or something   like that. And if you need to get there before that week,   you're screwed if you don't have your if you don't have another method. Exactly.  

[00:40:41] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   So, yeah, I I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah. That is pretty cool. That is pretty cool.  

[00:40:48] Jamon Fries:

And then   more stuff about in build involving Trump in national news. Uh-huh.   Down in Florida,   they found a somebody had put up a hunting stand.  

[00:41:03] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. I heard about that. Direct line of sight of  

[00:41:07] Jamon Fries:

the Air Force One zoning landings landing zone area.  

[00:41:11] Jesse Fries:

Jesus Christ.   Yeah.   I'm not sure if there is there much deer hunting you know in the area, you know?  

[00:41:19] Jamon Fries:

I'm not there because that's primarily residential   area.  

[00:41:24] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay. Well  

[00:41:26] Jamon Fries:

I It's Florida have a bow hunting season, you know, in this.   So   yeah. I don't know.   Some people say it's been up for months now.  

[00:41:36] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:41:39] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. So there there was a   secret service. I guess, they didn't notice   their reaction   tells me they I guess, they didn't notice it beforehand.  

[00:41:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. It happens. Because the reaction  

[00:41:52] Jamon Fries:

was that they quickly   had him instead of pulling up the the vehicle with the stairs, they lowered the the emergency stairs in the belly of the plane Okay. And had him quickly go up those.   Okay.   But at the same time, in the report,   it says that they had seen it before Trump was there,   which means even though they saw the possible threat location,   they still let Trump go there.  

[00:42:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No clue. No clue.  

[00:42:27] Jamon Fries:

Which if that's the case, that's kinda leading towards the Butler, Pennsylvania   area   of   what the hell are you doing? Why wasn't that area covered?  

[00:42:40] Jesse Fries:

Right. Yeah. It's   yeah. Who knows? Who knows? You know?   Yeah.   I I have no information really on that. You know, I just I saw one I saw one commenter  

[00:42:53] Jamon Fries:

that, about that that I thought was hilarious.   Mhmm. He said, well, you know, the problem is is that in order to do that, Trump would have to hire more security personnel so that they could cover everywhere.   But you know that the second that he does that, a federal judge is going to rule that he can't do it. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[00:43:16] Jesse Fries:

That that that's a meme that's going around. It's, it's like no matter what Trump does, the judge is gonna say, nope. You can't do it. You know? So Yeah.   Which it it seems about right. Yeah. That's a It it does. Yeah.   It's happening.   Yeah. Yeah.   Let's see here. Looks like we both have the story of the Louvre being robbed in daylight.  

[00:43:38] Jamon Fries:

Yes. That Yeah.  

[00:43:40] Jesse Fries:

Kind of Braceless too much. Impressive.   Yeah. Apparently, it's a thing there. It's happened quite a few times.   Daylight robbery is in the loop. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.  

[00:43:51] Jamon Fries:

So Yeah. And this one, they they drove a vehicle that had a stairs attack that had a ladder attached to it directly up to the upper balcony.  

[00:44:00] Jesse Fries:

That's brilliant. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. It's,   yeah, I know. Picasso gets stolen, what, a week or so ago, and now the Louvre jewels are stolen. Yeah. It's, like,   apparently, it's heist season again. I I don't think it's been a heist season lately. Right? There hasn't been too many heist lately. It's been a while since I've heard about   any pricey art or jewels being stolen. Yeah. I I'm glad to see the real professional thieves are coming back. You know? Absolutely. Yes. It it gives you good movies. You know? Yes. It does. Good stories for later and everything. Yeah. You know? It's Yeah.   If you're gonna do a crime that  

[00:44:39] Jamon Fries:

you know? Absolutely. If you're gonna if you're gonna do a crime, do a big one. Yeah. Yeah.   No. I guess the the jewels that they stole were the crown jewels   from France.   Oh, okay. Crown jewels. So   yeah. Those are some pretty big ones.  

[00:44:56] Jesse Fries:

Oh, Bonaparte's second wife. Her necklace. Yeah. The name is Marie Louis.   Louis Louis. I I I don't know how they would pronounce it. Right. Yeah.   French.   Yep. Yep. Yeah. That sucks. It's a pretty necklace, though. It really is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.  

[00:45:18] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:45:21] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Let's hear what else do we got.   This month.  

[00:45:27] Jamon Fries:

As as predicted, the,   Israel and Hamas ceasefire   hasn't really gone that well.   Yeah. But it's still holding. There has been still holding. Yes. They Yeah. They they're they're   still in the point of just complaining about each party breaking it. Yeah. Two IDF soldiers were killed.  

[00:45:48] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Israel blames Hamas for that. Hamas says we didn't do it. Israel bombed   Gaza.   Just a couple, just saying, yeah, we know you did it. And, that's pretty much about it. But then you have   everything that's going on with Hamas now where they're, like, killing   clan members and everything like that Yeah. Fellow Palestinians,   to try to regain control from   what the Hamas is calling, like, the criminal elements or something like that. Right. Yeah. But they're basically just   it's   they're executing these people on the street.   Oh, yeah. So I don't see that that doesn't seem like justice to me by any stretch of the imagination.  

So  

[00:46:35] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, it's   not a matter of justice.  

[00:46:39] Jesse Fries:

But, generally, that's what if you're trying to get rid of the a criminal element, it should be about justice. You know. It shouldn't just be Well, no. No. No. No. Hold on, Jesse. You have to remember here. It's one criminal element getting rid of another criminal element. Well, no. I understand. When you've got two cartels fighting, they don't peacefully just arrest people.   Yeah. Yeah. No. I I understand. I understand. These public executions   is kinda what they do. It is, but they better watch out because Trump said, you keep this up, I'm gonna come in and kill you. You know, it's,   so   because they're really breaking the piece, you know. It's Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Maybe not the piece with the the IDF,   but it's the piece, you know. They're just killing people and everything like that. It's not a   very valid thing to do, you know. It's, Oh, no. Not not in any way, shape, or form. But Yeah. It's it's how it's how  

[00:47:31] Jamon Fries:

dictators   and fascists  

[00:47:34] Jesse Fries:

control their people. Imagine that. Imagine that. Yeah. You know? So in other words, Trump should be doing this. Yeah. Exactly. Fascist and a dictator.   Exactly. Oh,   speaking of this region and everything like that, I heard at the No Kings rally, Palestinian flags,   outnumbered American flags.   So, yeah, it's,   even though Trump brought peace to Palestine. Yeah. Yeah. I imagine that. So  

[00:48:04] Jamon Fries:

I don't know because I didn't see a single picture with a Palestinian flag. I didn't either. I just heard somebody say that, you know. Yeah. No. I'll I saw a whole bunch of American flags. Well, that's good. That's good. Single I didn't see a single flag of another But whoever said that is an idiot, and I shouldn't have,   said anything about it. I mean, he he may have it it may have been true where he was. It's just none of the I mean, I definitely didn't see all of the pictures from from the protest.  

[00:48:32] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because there was a lot of that going on. Like the MSNBC one? Did you hear that?   No. I didn't. MSNBC,   they they they had some video or a photo of   a crowd   in Boston Commons.   Uh-huh.   And it was packed full of people. Right?   Right.   And they were saying this is what the scene is like.   Apparently, that was from 2017.   Yeah. So   you you you know, I don't know how many people showed up where or anything like that.   I'm sure some areas I know DC was packed because, well, it's   DC. But it's like Austin, it was barely anything.   The it's it was just basically just people roaming around.  

It looked pretty boring. You know? And so  

[00:49:23] Jamon Fries:

I I I saw I I saw a lot of people commenting   that   and and these comments from while from from while they were there, not from afterwards where they were trying to to tabulate to, tabulate how many people had showed up. Uh-huh.   And they were a lot of them were, like, you know, we were actually very surprised.   We didn't have any problem finding a parking spot. We didn't have any problem moving around. It it wasn't, like, a tightly knit crowd or anything like that.  

[00:49:55] Jesse Fries:

So   yeah. Yeah.  

[00:49:58] Jamon Fries:

So if you see pictures of tightly knit crowds  

[00:50:02] Jesse Fries:

It was probably for the camera. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. There's a possibility of that. Or AI. You never know even. You know? It's Yes. With AI and everything like this, I go, okay. Well, let's move on with life, you know? And,  

[00:50:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Like Trump's AI.  

[00:50:18] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Did you see what he did? No. No. I didn't.  

[00:50:22] Jamon Fries:

He,   so a lot of Democrats are   are incensed about this, of course. Of course.   He   did an AI that showed a fighter jet taking off that said that had King Trump on it.   Flow it flew ove it flew o and then it it and then it goes into the cockpit, and it has Trump wearing a golden crown. Uh-huh.   And then it he flies over a crowd,   and   I can only   say that it looks   like he dropped a whole bunch of shit on the crowd.  

[00:51:04] Jesse Fries:

That's funny. That's funny.   Yeah. The memes are good. The memes are good. Yeah. And the AI videos, some of them are pretty good. The White House is doing pretty good at at that.   Oh, yeah. Or yeah. So the Democrats need to step up their game. Come on. They really do. Yes.   Yeah. Entertainment people. It's for entertainment value. You know?   It's like the late night shows. You know, they they suck now because, well, it's all   Anger about Trump.  

[00:51:32] Jamon Fries:

Exactly. Yes.   Give me somebody one to them because all you're gonna hear is, you know, the the monologues are anger about Trump. Uh-huh. When they're talking to the people there, it's about anger about Trump. Yep. Yep. Yep.   I don't know about Fallon. I heard it he's not that way. But No. Fallon Fallon is good. Yeah. It's Fallon, he he'll he'll make jabs at Trump. Well, that you need to, but he Yeah. That's he does it as a comedian does. No. Makes sense to me. Makes sense to me. But yeah. And and his his show is not concentrating on Trump either. It's not like his entire monologue is like it's just one or two quick jabs in making fun of along with making fun of every with everything else that's been happening at the time. So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fallon's doing a good job with it. Okay. That's good. That's  

[00:52:23] Jesse Fries:

good. Let's see here.   Greta Thunberg.   So   speaking of the Israel and everything like that,   she is   saying that she was tortured,   beaten,   starved,   everything like that. And, Israel's going,  

[00:52:40] Jamon Fries:

no. I don't know what she's talking about. So, you know, she got what Well, I mean, they obvious they obviously starved her because they didn't arrest her at mealtime, and so she didn't get fed while it was. So she was obviously   starved.   Yeah.   Might have gotten a bruise while being transferred off of the ship, which means she was absolutely tortured.  

[00:53:01] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right.  

[00:53:03] Jamon Fries:

You know, she she may have bumped her elbow on the side of a shell on the ship or something like that.   So yeah. I mean, obviously, that they she was 100%   beaten absolutely.   Well, she she said to tell that by looking at any picture of her. Right. She said she she claimed,  

[00:53:21] Jesse Fries:

that, she had to beg for water while being kept in 40 degrees Celsius heat,   but the guards just laughed at her in front of her while holding water bottles,   threatening to gas her.  

[00:53:35] Jamon Fries:

I don't understand Oh my god.  

[00:53:37] Jesse Fries:

I I I really don't understand threatening to gas her. I'm not sure if Israelis would threaten to gas because there's a history there of Israelis being or Jews being gassed. So Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I I I don't know. It's,   I have no sympathy for her on this one. I really don't.   She's pathetic. She needs to go away. You know? She's just mentally.   It is she made herself her a name for herself. Well, her parents made a name for herself. Yeah.   And then   yeah.   She was hit Yeah. Kicked, starved, and tortured, Jamin.   Yeah. Yeah. And that they defaced her suitcase with words of whore Greta. So   I'm not sure if she wrote that on there herself or if somebody else did, but, you know,   she has a picture of a suitcase with whore Greta on it, and then the star of David.  



[00:54:33] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I'm sure it was probably done by her. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? I'm not good. Minions.  

[00:54:39] Jesse Fries:

I I'm not gonna say one way or the other, but I I wouldn't hold it against anybody for doing whatever. You know? It's Yep. Yep. Yeah.  

[00:54:47] Jamon Fries:

She's trying to help the enemy, so I don't see why. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's the thing is she really wasn't because there were no supplies of any of those guys. That that is true. That is true.   So she wasn't trying to aid their enemy.  

[00:55:02] Jesse Fries:

She she was just trying to make a stunt. That's all it was.   Yeah. Yep. Yep. Pure stunt.   Let's see here. What else do we got?   Oh, Prince Andrew.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have that story there.  

[00:55:20] Jamon Fries:

Yep. He's,   with his   after   it came out with Epstein and that he was part of the Epstein crew and all that stuff. Right.   He has now   officially   withdrawn  

[00:55:35] Jesse Fries:

from all politics. He no longer can be called Royal duties, not politics. Royal is not because remember, the monarchy does not get involved in politics.  

[00:55:45] Jamon Fries:

Remember this. That's right. Yeah.   Yeah. Sure.   But yeah. So they he's he's his,   his royal titles have been dropped. He's no longer the Duke of York. Yeah.   He's   essentially   now basically persona non grata with amongst the royals.  

[00:56:05] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He kinda has been anyways.   Yeah.   I think, the king just had to wait long enough after his mother died,   just to because   he he he knows what's a what an embarrassment Andrew was. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.   But now the,   Fergie can't be called the Duchess of York anymore, so there's that for her. You know? Too bad for her. Yep.   But, yeah, I don't   I don't feel sorry for him at all. So Oh, no. Absolutely not.  

[00:56:40] Jamon Fries:

That's   if the allegations were true. I mean, you know, he's never gone to court, and it's never been proven in court, but   he has paid rep he has paid,  

[00:56:52] Jesse Fries:

oh, yeah. Yeah. He he he house. So There's pictures of him, you know, and you can't really hide those pictures. So Yeah.   Yeah. I I yeah.   He he he deserves that. That's all I'm saying.  

[00:57:05] Jamon Fries:

I I agree 100%.   Mhmm.  

[00:57:08] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   And so, you know, the EU, they're they're   they're heavy they they they want more people to be part of EU because they wanna become more powerful and more they they they wanna become the They wanna have more influence in the world. Yeah. They wanna be the fourth Reich. You know? Yeah. It's, what they want the fourth empire.   And so now they're they're they're thinking that they'll let people or countries   join the EU,   but not have a vote.   Wait. What?   Yeah. Yeah. So they would let, like, Ukraine   join the EU,   but they would not have a vote   in parliament or anything.  

Wow.   Yep. Yep. This is,   they they say this is a way to make,   like,   Hungary and whatnot   say, okay.   We could they could become the EU because they can't vote.  

[00:58:10] Jamon Fries:

But why would they wanna become the e part of the EU if they have no say in what happens with the EU?   Because then Europe would start fighting Russia. I'm thinking.   You know?  

[00:58:25] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Yeah.  

[00:58:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yes. They they might get Ukraine with that.  

[00:58:31] Jesse Fries:

And, apparently, Moldova and Montenegro.   So   yeah. I I I don't understand.   They they they just wanna grow and grow and grow, you know, just for I   mean, meanwhile, other ones like Italy and Hungary are, like, going, can we just stop this? You know?  

[00:58:50] Jamon Fries:

Well, you you know you know why they wanna grow and grow and grow.   Why? It's because they're not financially on stable ground, so they need more countries involved to help spread out their losses. So you're good to get more crappy countries? It's like Yeah.  

[00:59:05] Jesse Fries:

Moldova,   Ukraine. Yeah. I I'm sorry.   So Ukraine,   you're gonna let these people they're they're   the the mob and everything like that is heavily   inside Ukraine and everything like that   Mhmm. Or was before the war. You know, we always knew this. The the ones who were wearing the tracksuits, you know. Yeah. And everything. We we we don't they weren't Russian. They were Ukrainians. You know? This is how it works and everything like that. So, you know, it's so I don't   I don't understand. I really don't. They they they just want more and more people with no   sense. You know? The the Yeah.  

Generally, for a country or something like that, you need some sort of commonality.   Yes. It's like The United States when we formed, they we were all British colonies.  

[00:59:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You you know, we we had something in common. Yes. There were differences, but we had that There's a there's a reason that Canada didn't join The United States, and it's because they were French colonies, and we were English colonies. Exactly. Exactly. But Western  

[01:00:08] Jesse Fries:

Europe versus Eastern Europe,  

[01:00:10] Jamon Fries:

these are two completely different people. Yeah. They've got nothing in common.  

[01:00:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Not even a language. Not even a basis for them. Yeah. You you you know, it's   Yeah. They're not romantic. They're not,   Germanic.   So, you know, it's Slavic language. So   Yep.   Yeah.   Poland is kinda in between, so I can understand Poland being there. But, yeah, it it's just   some of these other countries. You're just gonna Poland  

[01:00:39] Jamon Fries:

Poland with the history   with, World War two that they had and everything else like that. I could definitely see the EU wanting them to be part of them. Well, yeah. And your Poland has always been considered part of the part of Europe. Yeah. You you know, like, the real part of Europe. Not Yep. What Ukraine is that's Asia. Seriously, that is literally Asia in my book. Yep. That's just   Well, I mean, technically Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything is Asia. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Even Europe is Asia. There is no there is no European continent if you  

[01:01:14] Jesse Fries:

just look at land masses and stuff like that. Unless if you just wanna call the whole thing Europe. You we could do that too. As well. Yeah. You know? So   China is in Europe. You know? That that works too for I don't care which way we go with it. You know? Yeah. But it it's all the same continent.   Yeah. Or just call it Eurasia. You know? It's just   but yeah. Yeah. There there's no such thing as really as Europe. But yeah. Yeah.   But yeah. So that's that. They want people to join without a vote. That that because that has never been a problem, you know, having a group never. Not having a vote. Oh, wait a minute. That's kinda why we  

[01:01:55] Jamon Fries:

rebelled against the king. Exists.  

[01:01:58] Jesse Fries:

That that that's when we had the real no kings protest.  

[01:02:01] Jamon Fries:

Yes.   Exactly.  

[01:02:06] Jesse Fries:

And with that, we are a value for value podcast here at the or   wow.   I really messed that up. That's a show I listened to. I I just went into that. Yeah. Mindless Meandridge. I'm sorry about that.   Yeah. I'm really embarrassed now. I I I I yeah.   I had the mindless meandridge podcast.   What this means is,   if you get value out of the show, please let us know.   Please send us money. Please send us anything, any ideas for the show, any artwork, any anything. Anything that you can help us. Money would help defray the cost,   because this show does cost us money. Well, at least me money.  

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And onto business news.   So   Amazon.   Yeah.   If anybody didn't know, AWS went down.   Yeah. It was,  

[01:03:48] Jamon Fries:

yeah. A lot of websites   were gone for about an hour. Yeah. Like, half the Internet was gone, like, worldwide. Yeah. Mhmm. Zoom was gone. There were a whole bunch of,   government  

[01:04:00] Jesse Fries:

websites that were down. Yeah. Yeah. It was Yeah.  

[01:04:05] Jamon Fries:

It was pretty bad. AWS  

[01:04:07] Jesse Fries:

runs the world, basically. So Yeah.   But yeah. They fixed it, though. And we are asleep for most of it, so that's good. Yep. Well, for all of it. But there's there I have seen some glitches of some some of my games and everything like that go, not working yet, and then it starts working.   Okay. So it seems like there's still some hiccups in the system.  

[01:04:30] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Well, I guess it was a problem with   the the DNS,   which,   is   what translates   the IP address to the words.   So, like,   mindlessmeanderings.com   is, has a IP address location.  

[01:04:52] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:04:54] Jamon Fries:

And so   the the problem was is that you could no longer   the with the DNS SIP situation,   they would no longer translate from one to the other. Mhmm.   And so yeah. Every so no one could find anything on the Internet because   it just   suddenly didn't   compute.  

[01:05:15] Jesse Fries:

Oops.   Yeah.   Glad I wasn't on that phone call. No one's saying  

[01:05:23] Jamon Fries:

if it was,   if it was intent if it was an attack or if it was an or if it was just a   glitch in the system, like an update or something like that. Mhmm.   But, yeah, basically everything Amazon went down as well. So, like,   the Ring doorbells   could no longer send video.   Mhmm.   So for that hour, there's no video recordings from Ring or anything like that. Okay.  

[01:05:51] Jesse Fries:

Oh, no. Not that.   Yeah.   So   what criminal planned,   heights was this part of that Louvre? It might have been.  

[01:06:03] Jamon Fries:

You know?  

[01:06:04] Jesse Fries:

You know? You know? Or something else was,   they they they wanted everything down so they could do something. You you know?   It'd be a good plot to a movie. I'm just saying. Absolutely   would. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.   Uh-huh. Uh-huh.   Let's see here. Apparently,   the Walmart CEO,   has said that,   all this tariff and everything like that, it is really bringing American manufacturing   back. And he said it's really good for business.   He said that, they're investing in US manufacturing and US operations.   It's great for business, but it's also great for employment.   Oh, yeah. It's great for jobs. It's great for the country, and it helps us with our supply chain being flexible and dynamic.  

So   Absolutely.   Yeah. Yeah. It it's,   we need to get back into manufacturing. You know? It's  

[01:07:04] Jamon Fries:

just for our own security. You know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. We we need to have manufacturing   capability here, and we need to have the top abilities of of the manufacturing   processes.   Yeah. No. We we need that here. We the country a country can know any any country cannot survive without being able to manufacture   at least   their own military   weapons.  

[01:07:28] Jesse Fries:

Well, especially somebody as big as us.   Yeah. You know, Europe, they really don't  

[01:07:34] Jamon Fries:

produce much anything. But yeah. Right. But, I mean, you know, when when you're when you   any country that has   the   desire to be   on top of the world Mhmm.   You have to at least be able to manufacture   every aspect of all of your military weapons.  

[01:07:53] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yep. Yep.  

[01:08:00] Jamon Fries:

But,   yeah. I guess, Waymo's gotten in trouble.  

[01:08:05] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Why now?  

[01:08:07] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, you all you usually almost 9099%   of the stories that I see about this are   about Tesla problems with their Right. With their full self drive.   But this time,   a Waymo robot taxi   drove around   a stopped school bus with the thread lights flashing. Yeah. That's no good. That is no good.   This this happens   this happened in an area where they just introduced it. Uh-huh. But she can't tell me that no robotaxi has ever seen a stop school bus before.   Seriously. And that's just a problem. That that's something that's something that should have been in the programming regardless of where it's at.  

[01:08:55] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   It it should. Maybe San Francisco doesn't have it. I don't know. You know?   But   yeah. No. That's not Google.  

[01:09:03] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Now the the the you know, you keep hearing   problems with Tesla about, you know, how they drove in the wrong lane and stuff like that. Uh-huh.   And now for the first time, I'm see I they they listed off, like, four or five of the different things that Waymo's been investigated for in the past. And,   I mean, some of them are pretty major.  

[01:09:28] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. No. All all these companies, they have issues. This is Yeah. This is why I like the   Super Cruise aspect of GM things, where it'll drive itself, like, on major roads and everything like that. But Right. You are in complete control of it.   As in if something happens sometimes it goes wonky and you have to really take control of it sometimes.   One time, it was trying to take me down this,   exit   with with a sharp turn at the end of it. We're gonna go, no. No. No. No. No. Yeah. It's like Yeah. Where'd you come up with that, dude? You know? Well, that's that's like the, Tesla  

[01:10:04] Jamon Fries:

consumer products, not the robo taxis, but the regular cars. Right. You still have to be sitting in the driver's seat. You still have to be ready to take control at a moment's notice. Right. Right.   So, you know, that's   that's kinda the same way that it seems GM does theirs. So that's   Mhmm. Definitely a good thing. But, yeah, I I don't know.   It   I've always had a problem with   testing testing vehicle things   on public roads. Yeah. But you have to at some point. I know I know you eventually   have to.   But   on the private test tracks, you should introduce   every possibility.  



[01:10:51] Jesse Fries:

I think they try. Physically can. Yeah. I think they do try. And they probably have tested the school bus. I'm sure they have.  

[01:10:58] Jamon Fries:

Oh, no. I I'm sure they have, which which is very which is why it's, like, a very strange thing because, you know, it's not like they haven't stopped at school buses before. So I don't know if they didn't update   for this area or if they if in the other areas, they they train it to spit they they get, like, where the school bus routes are Uh-huh.   And train the their vehicles to always be paying attention to school buses in those zones.  

[01:11:26] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:11:28] Jamon Fries:

Because the the school buses, they have definitive routes, you know, so you can so you could program the car to look for it while while it's in those definitive routes.  

[01:11:38] Jesse Fries:

No. No. Not really. Just not on major highways. That's pretty much about it. It's, because  

[01:11:43] Jamon Fries:

the the routes change year to year. So Yes. They change year to year. But I mean, you can Waymo updates   on a weekly basis.  

[01:11:52] Jesse Fries:

No. I understand. Routing because they they But it just not might not be there. They they it might not have the data because I'm not sure I'm not sure if, the school districts would actually share that data. So   and there's so many school districts.   So,   I'm not sure. And some of them don't have much of a budget. So Yeah.   Yeah. I don't know how feasible that would actually be. But  

[01:12:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I have no idea. Yeah. You could always go to the you could always go to the busing company itself and and a lot of times, those are run by the  

[01:12:26] Jesse Fries:

school districts.   So  

[01:12:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Sometimes.   Yep. I think most of the time.   But No. Most of them, it's private companies.  

[01:12:38] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:12:39] Jamon Fries:

No clue. No clue. It's a private company that owns the buses, but the they paint the schools on the school's names on the buses and stuff like that.  

[01:12:47] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:12:49] Jamon Fries:

Well because because I I'm pretty anyways, here in Lawrence, it works that way. I know because our niece used to work for them.   Right. Right. Yeah.  

[01:12:58] Jesse Fries:

Okay. So, apparently,   Bill Gates just lost a buttload of money.   So  

[01:13:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's not surprising.  

[01:13:06] Jesse Fries:

No. No. Beyond Meat is beyond gone, apparently. Thank god.   I don't I think it's still technically in business, but it completely just tanked to the stock market, everything like that.   Yeah.   Yeah. We don't need meat alternatives.   It's   we don't need them. It's no. And it's not good. It's overly processed. They talk about processed foods. That is super processed fruit. Oh, yeah. Big time. Salty,   everything.   You know? Yeah. It's just not,   it's just not a thing that is needed. I this idea, I I don't know where these people come with these ideas. But,   yeah. I don't know either. But then Bill Gates wants us to eat bugs too. So, you know, it's That is true. Yes.  

And you you know, I saw another story. It comes about, like, once a year, once every couple years, they go, should we be eating bugs? Because, like, 2,000,000,000 people on the planet do. It's like,   yeah. We're not poor though. You know? As a country, we are not poor. We don't need to eat bugs. You know? We don't need to you you you know? There there's some countries, you know, it's like I I know some of the traditional food in Mexico is like,   crickets and grasshoppers.   Yeah. You know, it's   that's fine and everything like that. You know? Or in Asia, they eat scorpions and whatnot.   Yep.  



[01:14:26] Jamon Fries:

Well, in Asia, they pretty much eat just about everything. Well, right. Right. But, you know, these foods come from when you're poor. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. We're not poor. Why would we wanna do that? No. They they they come from the old tribal times of in those countries, and they've just held on to them. No. Yeah. Exactly. You know, whereas Europeans,   we let go of that shit.  

[01:14:49] Jesse Fries:

Well, what bugs are there to eat there? And it's No. No. No. No. In in comparison, because remember Europe's up north.   Yeah. There's not many bugs there, and all the bugs that are there are tiny.   Yeah.   You know, it's not   they don't have huge scorpions that you can eat or Right. Grasshoppers. You know, it's not really a thing up there. So Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have to worry about plagues of locust usually or anything like that. No. No. It's it just really doesn't happen. It's a bit too cold up there for that. So Yep. Because Europe is cool. It makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah.  

[01:15:26] Jamon Fries:

I hadn't thought about that aspect of it. But, yeah, it makes absolute sense.  

[01:15:31] Jesse Fries:

So we'll just keep going with that. But, yeah, at least we don't at least beyond Meet, let's go on a way.   I, yeah, I I I just never understood the idea of it.   So,   apparently, what really helped it   die was when some states said you couldn't sell your product in the meat   section.   Yes. Like Texas. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay. Where are we supposed to put it then? It's like, that's up to you, dude.   You can put it in the vegetable area. Yeah. Yeah. I I You know, vegetables, that's where it goes. It's like I I saw it in Michigan. I saw this stuff in Michigan, but really down here in Texas, I haven't really seen it at all. Yeah.   It's just no. We we we get cheap meat. Why why why should we   you know,   beef has gotten a bit too expensive lately, but, you know, it's Right.  



[01:16:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, hopefully, now that now that everybody knows that it's that beef are   net negative carbon imprint,   you know,   maybe they'll they'll start,   letting beef be grown again.   Maybe so. Maybe so.  

[01:16:44] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No clue.   No clue.   Well, let let let's deal with this thing. So I ran across this article. It it's more of like a philosophy article.   It's called the great feminization.   It's by a lady named Helen Andrews. I think she's a conservative.   But, basically,   what her argument is is that woke   is actually just feminization   of the workplace.   Okay. Because   because the way that women work   men and women, we we deal socially different. Right? Yes. And the way that women work is generally   ostracization,   and   things like that. That's how they deal with conflict and everything like that. Men will just   quickly hash it out and then move on with life.  

But women will ostracize.   Men fight and get over it. Yeah. Yeah. The the how many instances did you know in high school where two kids would have a fight because they hated each other, then the next week they're best friends?  

[01:17:50] Jamon Fries:

You know? It it happened quite often, you know? None in my high school. Oh, okay. Okay. But but then again, my my high school my class size was only, like,   a 100 people.  

[01:18:02] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.  

[01:18:04] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. If if we didn't if if we got into a fight with someone, it's because we didn't like them, and we weren't gonna like them after birth. Right.  

[01:18:11] Jesse Fries:

Right. But, yeah, she also says how,   like, it's gonna   academia   has gotten to the point where it's over 50% women now. And because of that,   it's just getting more and more female. It's it's like,   psychology, it used to be all men, and then women now make up 75%   of graduating classes in psychology.   Yeah.   Law is getting to be the same way. And she says that this is a problem   because   women don't look at   this is a law, so this is what you have to do. They think about the   the overall emotional aspect of it. They think, well, is this   just for this person? They are there mitigating circumstances much more than men will? Men will go, well, you stole a loaf of bread. You you know? The you know?  

So you stole a loaf of bread. That that's it. You know? You you nowadays, we're a bit nicer than they were during, like, Les Mis, sort of era, sort of thing. During the during the French revolution, they were very nice. No. Exactly. You steal, chop hand off in Arab countries and everything like that, you know. But at least you knew where you stood. It's like now Yeah.  

[01:19:21] Jamon Fries:

It's hard to know where you stand. The law has become way too fluid.   Yep. Yep. The law is not meant to be fluid. It's meant to be very strict and very   solid.  

[01:19:32] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. She she said to the point that the rule of law will not survive   the legal profession becoming majority female.  

[01:19:40] Jamon Fries:

I can agree with that. Yep. Yep. So  

[01:19:43] Jesse Fries:

it's   I mean, you're already seeing it. And No. You are. Right now. I mean You definitely are. Yep. Yeah. I mean,  

[01:19:51] Jamon Fries:

any thoughts of   of having different   outcomes   of trials based on the color of the skin? Like, you know, if you're white, you're gonna be so you're gonna get sentenced for this. If you're black, you're gonna get sentenced to a smaller amount or to a larger amount. Yep. That's that's all because of emotional stuff. That's not because of the law.  

[01:20:13] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. And, you know, it's it's like   and all this will breed is the downfall of our society. You know?   That that that's all it's gonna do. You know? You can   you need the rule of law. Otherwise,   it's useless. It's pointless. You you have nothing to back it up or anything like that, you know. So Yeah.   Yeah. It's just like Rome, you know. You just get to a point where, well,   you no longer are who you were.   So Yeah. We either would starts falling apart? No. Yeah. We would either need a strong man,   to come in and actually just complete complete take complete dominance of our culture, you know, like, emperor.   Or we'll just break up,   because our society won't hold together, and then each state will have to go about its own business. So or   we'll probably, like the states would probably join together and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah. The state the states would align into probably two different categories.  

Right. Right. But different countries. Well, maybe more than that, you know, because the West is different than the East. Yeah. Yeah. South different than the North. Potentially   potentially three or four maybe. Yeah. Minnesota would probably just join Canada.  

[01:21:28] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Probably.  

[01:21:31] Jesse Fries:

See that. Yeah.   But yeah. So it it's,   it's a interesting   idea. You know? It's, Yeah. It is. And   she said that it's not   the woke. Woke is just the feminization   of   everything.   And she said it started with, like, Harvard when the president   was saying, well, things aren't that bad. These are the statistics, and the women are going too bad.   I don't care about your statistics. You know? You said the wrong thing.   It's like but everybody backs them up. All the science backs them up. The data backs them up, but the women don't like   it. Yeah. Yeah. So and, of course, this is not every woman or anything like that. Right. No. There are differences on all sorts and everything like that. But I think it's also why   in today's world,   men are so much more conservative than women. You know? It's   Yeah.  

It's really become a huge difference. Yeah. Yeah. It's become a huge difference.   It really has. Yeah. And then the men that actually do have a college education,   you could say they've just been feminized.   You know? Yes.   Because that that's the society that they know. You know? That Yeah. That's how they were taught is just by Yep.   Feminized   by a feminized system. So Yeah.   Yeah.   I found it a fascinating article.  

[01:23:00] Jamon Fries:

Sounds like it. I'll have to read all I'll have to read through that. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:23:04] Jesse Fries:

And then let's see. Is that,   oh, I got some science news.   Then I think that's it for today.   But   so   let's see. So they're they're they're saying now that, so the classic definition of beast, you know, it's just your body weight and everything like that, your BMI. Yeah.   Mhmm. This is saying that it needs to change to where it's actually you know, those skinny guys that have the big belly. Mhmm.   Basically, they're   in a good weight category, but that fat just all right there makes them obese now is what doctors and scientists are saying.   So because they're they have the same health outcomes as obese people.  



[01:23:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So so what they're saying then is that you should classify it on health outcome versus   BMI.  

[01:23:58] Jesse Fries:

Correct. Correct. You would still have the BMI and so but then you would also add in   the belly fat and everything like that. So Yeah.   So yeah. It's a Okay.   Mhmm.   And then let's see.   So now carbs are   not bad for you anymore, apparently.  

[01:24:25] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, carbohydrates  

[01:24:26] Jesse Fries:

were never bad for you. No. This is As long as you didn't overdo them. Yeah. But they they they they always say, they're they're blood sugar spiking,   empty calories,   carbs will make you fat, sick, unhappy, blah blah blah. You know? It's   and they always get blamed for everything, you know, but   they're not. And see this is   this is just scientists coming back and saying, oh, yeah. This is the craziness and everything. You just eat what you want, people. That's all I'm saying.   Eat in moderation. Make sure you don't eat too many calories. Well, I mean, what what you've what you've gotta do  

[01:25:01] Jamon Fries:

is basically what I've done Mhmm. Is   you pinpoint the problem of your bra of your body. Right. Right. For me, it's that I was insulin resistant.   Mhmm. Which led to diabetes.  

[01:25:15] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:25:17] Jamon Fries:

So to make it so that my body would become less insulin resistant, I had to make it so that my body would produce less insulin.   Right. The only way to do that was for me to cut the carbohydrates.   No. Yeah. Completely. Completely.   So you have to know your body. It it with certain under certain situations, carbohydrates can be very bad for you. No. Yeah. Of course. Of course. If you're like, type one diabetic,   yes. Those blood sugar spikes are killers  

[01:25:46] Jesse Fries:

for you. Right. Right. But you you know that that's a minority.  

[01:25:50] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. That's a very, very, very small minority.   Even type two diabetes doesn't really have to pay attention to those blood sugar spikes that much. Uh-huh. Yep. Well, so it's only this very small percentage that needs to be concerned about it for the blood sugar spikes. Mhmm. The rest of it is   just eat eat your carbohydrates in moderation.   You don't need to put a cup of sugar into your cereal.  

[01:26:15] Jesse Fries:

You know, stuff like that. Unless if it's GrapeMouse. Then you have to put a dump sugar in  

[01:26:23] Jamon Fries:

it.   I I could I could buy that one. Yeah.   But,   you know, so I mean, it it's all about   you eating eating in moderation. You know, you should never have too much too much protein is bad for you, too much too many carbohydrates are bad for you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Too much fat is bad for you.   But you do wanna make sure that you do get a decent mix.   Yep. Yep. And so so now, like like, you know, now that I'm no longer diabetic according to the last blood test,   I am reintroducing carbohydrates into my diet. Oh, yeah. I'm drinking milk again. I'm eating a lot of lettuce and stuff like that.   So, you know, it because I know it's necessary for the way that the body is supposed to work.  



[01:27:09] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   No. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Just so you know, just eat what you need to, you know, and   and no food is bad for you,   generally. Wow.  

[01:27:21] Jamon Fries:

Unless unless it's, you know, like, blow poisonous or something like that. I mean Well, right. But that's not food.   Some people might argue, you know, the the,   what fish is it that   if it's Oh, the blowfish. Yeah. Blowfish. If it's prepared properly, it's good food. If it's not, it's poison.  

[01:27:42] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's poisonous either way. It's just it won't kill you one way. It still tingles your mouth and make yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From what I understand.   I've never eaten it, but yeah. No. I never mind. I never will. But, I might. I don't know.   But   I'd have to be at a really good sushi place, and I I don't really go to. I I I stick with   Jerry, my sushi comes from our grocery store. That that that's generally where my sushi comes from. So, you know, that's just might as well. Yes. Okay. Because it's not one of those things I go, oh, sushi. It's like, well, I'm hungry now and okay. Let's go with some sushi. The for me it's for me it's I I look at DoorDash,  

[01:28:20] Jamon Fries:

and every once in a while, Dylan's here in town on DoorDash.   It's   50%   off   on sushi.  

[01:28:29] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Yeah. Oh my god. Today's the good day to have sushi. Yeah. Day old sushi. You gotta love it.   And then I have one last story that, is been making the news,   especially for people that eat protein powder or drink it or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that one. Yeah. There is lead in your protein powder. Okay.   Well   yeah. And certain ones are worse than other ones. Yeah. And what's   kinda sad but kinda   ironic   is that,   the plant based ones actually have the worst lead content in them.   Oh, no.   Yeah. Yeah. So and vegans   rely   on protein powder. Big time.  

But it can have, like, nine to 10 times   the lead levels that's recommended for you.   Holy crap. And, see, the thing with lead is it's cumulative. So so so Yeah. It it's not just that one time. It it stores in your body.   And so   yeah. Yeah. That word.  

[01:29:42] Jamon Fries:

Cumulative.   There you go. There you   go. You know what, man? You know that's all I know, man. Yeah.  

[01:29:54] Jesse Fries:

I know you said you're ready for it. Of course. No. Of course. Of course. You have to do that. You know? It's like yeah. Brothers if we didn't. No. Of course. Of course not.   But yeah. So, apparently, it's like,   the   plant based ones are the worst.   Then it's, meat based ones.   And then the best ones they say overall are the whey, the milk based, the whey based protein powders.   So   but even those can have too high of, lead in them. So is is the lead from the processing or is it just I I'm not I'm not sure exactly where it's from.   But, basically,   it's just   check people. And and if you don't know, if you don't have a study on it, don't don't eat it. Yeah.  

You you know  

[01:30:44] Jamon Fries:

You know, thinking about it, one thing that I know is that when you powder something,   it makes everything in that's in it   much more condensed.   And so any lead   any small traces of lead in the plant   are going to become more pronounced   in the powder in the powdered form. Yeah. Because to to get the same amount, you have to use a lot more of the plant. Yeah. I really don't know though. So I would I would be willing I I would bet that that's probably at least partially what the the reason for it. Possibly. I have no clue. I have no clue on that one. But yeah. So it's just a bad situation for those, protein powder people and especially  

[01:31:28] Jesse Fries:

vegans. So Yeah.   As the Chick fil A says, eat more chicken. Just  

[01:31:36] Jamon Fries:

we get or or fish or something. Just just get get that protein somewhere. But, Or, you know, if you if you don't wanna eat if you still don't wanna eat   the flesh of animals,   eat more beans, eat more eat more soybeans and stuff like that. I mean, you don't Well, right. Provide it in that powdered form,   and it's gonna be okay.  

[01:31:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Or just eat meat. Just I I I  

[01:32:01] Jamon Fries:

Personally, for myself, I mean, I   I can't stand the soy product because Oh, god. Well, they're disgusting.  

[01:32:10] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Soy has   soy has that taste. So Yes. Yes. It does.  

[01:32:16] Jamon Fries:

And,   yeah, beans aren't that great for you either.   See, I know. Just eat meat. Yeah. Just eat meat.   Forget your vegan ways. Please start eating meat. But remember,  

[01:32:28] Jesse Fries:

beans are the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you toot. The more you toot. The better you feel. The better you feel. Exactly.   Exactly.   And with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us, for episode 72 of the Mindless Meandering podcast. Hey. I said the right podcast, actually. Not somebody else's podcast. What the hell was I doing?   I'm Jesse Fries.   And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you on Thursday.