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Welcome to episode 2 of Mindless Meanderings! Co-hosts Jesse and Jamon talk about the Drudge Report, fact-checking services leaning left, the current state of virtual reality, development of 6G technology, the Mediterranean diet's impact on COVID-19 severity ,and finally Social Security and Medicare.
Join us for a thought-provoking and wide-ranging discussion that meanders through various topics, offering insights and opinions along the way.
(00:00:19) Introduction and Hosts
(00:00:59) Discussion on Media Bias and Drudge Report
(00:06:07) Fact-Checking and Media Trust Issues
(00:10:01) DOJ and International Legal Actions
(00:16:07) Espionage and Political Scandals
(00:18:35) Presidential Candidates and Policy Shifts
(00:25:03) Virtual Reality and Technological Advances
(00:34:57) 6G Technology and Autonomous Vehicles
(00:42:02) Privacy Concerns and Active Listening Software
(00:45:15) Diet, Health, and COVID-19
(00:53:34) Ford Motor Company and DEI Policies
(00:58:06) Social Security and Medicare Budget Discussion
(01:04:13) Podcast Business and Listener Contributions
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[00:00:20]
Jesse Fries:
Hello, welcome to the mindless meanderings, episode 2. Yes, this is the second one in the bag. I am one of your hosts, Jesse Friese, and this is, my brother,
[00:00:31] Jamon Fries:
Jaiman. I'm Jaiman Friese. Hello. How's everybody doing today?
[00:00:35] Jesse Fries:
We we need to work on that, Jaiman. We need to smooth that out a bit, I think I think I think. I will never be smooth. You know that. Yeah. But we can make it a little bit more professional, you know,
[00:00:46] Jamon Fries:
even if we're not. Those.
[00:00:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So, there's been a lot going on in the last week. Some crazy stuff going on, but, also just normal crap going on. Let's see here. One one of my biggest pet peeves lately has been I've been using the Drudge Report for the longest time, you know, as a basic just good for, information, all different types of news and everything like that. But lately, it's just been it's so one-sided. It's it it they he hates Trump or whoever is running the drudge report just hates Trump. That's all it is, is anti Trump, anti this. And I I I like it more of a neutral position personally. And I always thought Drudge it was a bit conservative, but it was also very neutral in a lot of different aspects as well. But when it comes to Trump, it just seems way too
[00:01:45] Jamon Fries:
yeah. Way too one second. Mean, it it's it has slowly been progressing in that in in that manner. I mean, it it is slowly moving towards, say, more with a more leftist lean. Right. It was you know, judge report was first popularized in first time I ever heard about it was, with Rush Limbaugh, you know, way back in the day.
[00:02:07] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. It it got its He was quoting it all the time. Well, yeah. It got its start, with the Monica Lewinsky, scandal. Yep. He was actually the one that broke the news. It was the Treasury report that actually broke the Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton scandal. And so that's where He's not aware of that. Yeah. Yeah. He had an insider. Apparently, I think the insider tried to give the story to other people, other news agencies, but nobody would take it. And so there's this just news aggregate guy that he goes, okay. I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:40] Jamon Fries:
Well, you know, it's not surprising that nobody else would take it. I mean, you know, the way the media is now.
[00:02:46] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Also, sex scandals generally are have always been hushed up, hidden, things like that, especially with the president. Think like JFK and all the sex going on there and everything like that. So it's very Oh, yeah. It's very common for sex just to be whitewashed. But, yeah, he he he really took it from there. And it changed politics.
[00:03:10] Jamon Fries:
I'll give him that. Oh, it really did. Yeah. It it put a it put a much more even playing field on on the, on the topics of of politics for quite a while. But yeah. I mean, even I I've noticed, you know, even a lot of the fact checking things like Reuters and stuff like that, they they've all slowly been moving towards the left where anything that the left says is right and everything that the right says is wrong, and I just I I can't quite understand how they can wrap that up as a fact checking service anymore.
[00:03:45] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's the thing is that there was never a fact checking service to begin with. And then all of a sudden they just and then when Trump came around, they all started going, oh, we have to fact check. And then Yeah. But all these fact checkers, they're all liberally based. They're all left leaning Oh, yeah. Every single last one of them. And so Absolutely. What they find to be a lie is just somebody making a joke, or many different things. It's kinda ridiculous. The whole idea of a fact checker is asinine. It really is. It just doesn't make any sense. It's we're we're on the web. We're everybody says things. Sometimes it's hyperbolic.
Sometimes it's just a joke. Sometimes, they actually mean it. It's hard to it's hard to parse, that. And but yeah. These fact checkers really do try to, seem to go the way of the left,
[00:04:43] Jamon Fries:
and whatever they say is right. Everything do seem to be that way. Yes.
[00:04:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Which I just I like a good neutral position personally. That that because sometimes the right is stupid. Sometimes the left is stupid. And so it's like and there's so much just propaganda running around there. So yeah.
[00:05:07] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it it's not not only just propaganda, but there it's also I mean, and this is done on the left and the right. Clips. You know, you've got, like, this 5 second blurb of video where the where somebody, whether it's a democrat or a republican, says one thing Mhmm. Completely taken out of context and suddenly, you know, the world's gonna go go to hell if this person becomes not becomes the president or, you know, whatever. He gets elected into office Oh, yeah. Whatever the office happens to be. And I I find that so insane. I mean, you you can't just even if he did say that, even if he meant what you're trying to say that he meant, that's still just one thing that he said.
Yeah. I mean Yep. Sure. It it it's not it may it may play some part in showing who the person is, but it's not going to affect things on a large scale. I mean, you know, to me, it doesn't really matter who's in the who who gets the president. No. Same here. Same here. Same here. Because what's more important is the is the, is the house and the senate. They're the ones that actually come up with the rules. They're the come the ones that come up with the laws. I I I Yes. The president has veto power, but he doesn't have much else.
[00:06:41] Jesse Fries:
Actually, except for maybe now, beforehand, he had complete control if you really think about it. But before the Chevron deference, Supreme Court decision here recently, do you know do you remember what that is? So basically it gave, all the different agencies wide sweeping, rights just to come up with regulations that were law and everything like that, that you could be thrown in jail for and so on and so forth, penalized for and everything like that, just based off of what they thought was best.
[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:
Which is the Which is really bad.
[00:07:18] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Which is completely horrible. So before that the most recent Chevron deference, or the repeal of Chevron deference. Once that happened, things have gotten more back hopefully, more back with the congress. But from Yeah. The eighties up until this year, it has been, we've had the emperor basically to where his his administration his administration could write any laws, basically, and just, have them passed on. You know? It it was it's Well, I
[00:07:56] Jamon Fries:
I I have a slightly differing differing view on that one. Mhmm. It's not that the president was the emperor. It was that the bureaucracies that were in place were the emperor because a lot of times, you know, the the president doesn't actually control the bureaucracy anymore. Well, anymore. Oh, well, he he does to a certain point. They can fire and hire certain people up at the top, but it's not the it's not the people that he appoints that are actually making most of the decisions. It's the people within the bureaucracy.
[00:08:27] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. But that's just like, your body, you know? You you have a main control, but basically just the root systems of your brainstem are doing most of the hard work just by itself. But then you Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah, no, it's, to me, that's how I look at it. And if he, if the president, he or she, basically they can fire and hire whoever they want, technically, throughout the administration. If they say this is the policy, they there are rules, of course, for government workers and everything like that. But he says, if this is the policy, that's the policy. Plain and simple, that's the policy.
[00:09:04] Jamon Fries:
And so because of that Well, I thought that it worked out that way anyways.
[00:09:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, there's always people that work behind the their backs and everything like that. You know, CIA, FBI, you know, they get dirt on on the president or whatnot or a family member, and then they get their way and so on and so forth. But I I think in general, that's how it works. But, yeah, there's always there there are always exceptions to the rule. So
[00:09:27] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. Mhmm. Yeah. It's, well, you know, it's like the DOJ with all with everything that they've been doing lately. You know? It's I I was, reading some news articles recently here, and I I was very shocked to see that the DOJ has, has, what's the term for it?
[00:09:56] Jesse Fries:
Don't know.
[00:10:02] Jamon Fries:
They opened up the they opened up the case files for it. But they've it I guess back sometime back in February, I think if I read it correctly, they had indicted the, Hamas leadership
[00:10:14] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:10:16] Jamon Fries:
As terrorists.
[00:10:17] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:10:19] Jamon Fries:
And they're just now coming out and saying that, but at the same time, they're pushing for peace over there. So I'm not really sure just where they're trying to go with this. I mean, did they did they give up on Michigan? Because, I always heard that, you know, they would never go against Thomas because because they wanted the voters in Michigan. Of course, you know, that's the right wing put push on things. But, yeah, they they've just recently, indicted the, the leaders of of Hamas for the actions on October 7th.
[00:10:54] Jesse Fries:
But but for what? No. No. Just in all seriousness, for what? They don't either because they have no legal standing to indict them. No. Sir, seriously, this brings up the whole other this brings up a whole another point. The US government has gotten to the point where it's like somebody commits a crime overseas that might tend gently hit us. And all of a sudden Yeah. We we we think we can charge them with crimes of murder and, spy, you know, like Assange for god's sakes. You you you know? He Yeah. Yeah. It was our information, but
[00:11:28] Jamon Fries:
he he he wasn't US citizen. He wasn't in the US when he did it. Exactly. Break any of our laws by doing that. Well, he he He's not he he would I mean, he didn't break any of our laws because our laws don't affect him over there. Exactly. He could do whatever the fuck he wants. It it's not like the entire world is ruled by the United States and whatever we say is a law, becomes a law everywhere. I mean, it just doesn't work that way. Well, apparently, it does. I I I don't know. It's it's stupid.
[00:12:03] Jesse Fries:
They wanna try to make it said it does. I know. I know. And then you have Hollywood even behind them. You you know those FBI shows,
[00:12:11] Jamon Fries:
like FBI, like, Botswana. They have the FBI International, or they used to. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that. I'm all like, the FBI isn't isn't supposed to operate internationally, I thought. That's what I was thinking too. I mean, it's a it's a it's a federal US police force that should only be operating in the US.
[00:12:31] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. And then if you need international help, you get, like, Interpol or the local agencies involved. You you know? It's Well, I mean, that's what Interpol was created for.
[00:12:41] Jamon Fries:
I know. I know. It it It's so that the different police forces of different countries can work together. I mean, sure, it's a European thing, but we but we interact with INTERPOL all the time too. We do. We do. I mean, the Asian countries do. Everybody interacts with Interpol nowadays. See, it I exactly. Few countries that don't. But
[00:13:04] Jesse Fries:
well, just recently I yeah. Just recently, I think we just maybe I heard that we just recently allowed them to actually work inside the United States, like, maybe, like, 10 years ago or something like that.
[00:13:17] Jamon Fries:
I think You want yeah. I could I could see that. The I I could see us not wanting Interpol to come here to uphold laws and stuff like that. I mean, we're not Exactly. Worried for. We're we're the biggest head of the block. We don't have to listen to you. Exactly. It's like we're not part of the ICC, you know, International Criminal Court, you know. We we we don't recognize them, you know, you know. Yeah.
[00:13:36] Jesse Fries:
And so our presidents can kill whoever they want, you know, because of that. Absolutely.
[00:13:40] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes. That's hilarious.
[00:13:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've I I really haven't understood the whole going after crimes. More than likely because an American citizen was killed or something like that, and so because of that, it's against America, which to me is a it's stupid. You you don't it's where the crime happened has jurisdiction, not who actually was murdered. So if, like, an Italian if an Italian gets murdered or raped over here, Italy has no recourse to try that person because the crime never happened there.
[00:14:15] Jamon Fries:
You know? So it's like The most the most they can do is put political pressure on us through their through their state department.
[00:14:22] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. It's like what was it? The the lady in the UK that, ran somebody over, happened a couple years ago. She was the wife of a low level diplomat, and she, like Okay. I I I think she didn't realize what side of the road to drive on, I think was her story. And then she hit somebody killed a guy, and then the family's been trying to get justice for him and everything like that. And she was like, going, nope. I'm not going back. And the US was going, nope. You don't have to go back. And the UK was trying to get her to go back to face the charges. I think in the end, it would be like
[00:15:00] Jamon Fries:
That that is something that happens all the time. I mean, you there's always gonna be people one country requesting another country citizen to be sent back to their country to be tried for crimes that they committed there. Right. And usually, it happens. But I do know, Yeah. But the US is pretty the US doesn't like sending our people overseas to get tried.
[00:15:24] Jesse Fries:
To the UK, we wouldn't mind. It was just the the issue was the diplomatic immunity. The US State Department decided to say that she had diplomatic immunity because of her husband, even though technically he was low level. So more than likely she actually didn't. Usually it's only like, ambassadors or senior diplomats that actually get Oh, yeah. Family immunity, like kids and whatnot Yeah. Get immunity. So, yeah, it it was a weird case. It really was. But
[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's the first time hearing about that one. But, yeah, that that definitely would be very, very weird. Yeah. I think it was during Bobby. I think it was during Trump years, I think. But, Okay. Okay. Yeah. Did you hear about, the, governor's aid in New York being arrested for, for allegedly working with China?
[00:16:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I I just read that she was arrested, and then I go and then it had her name soon. And I go, Chinese. And I'm like, that that's a spy. And then I read her husband's name, Hu. And I'm like, oh, I didn't even have to read it. I'm just going, they were arrested for spying, plain simple. They there's just Yep. Yep.
[00:16:43] Jamon Fries:
Well, what, what supposedly, what what what happened was, she was decently up there in in a couple of the, couple different, under a couple different governors and stuff. Uh-huh. And there were times where Taiwanese where the Taiwanese government was trying to get in touch with the with the state of New York. I'm not really sure why a foreign country would would need to be in touch with our individual states, but they were trying to and supposedly she blocked all access from them. And in doing so, her husband who's a who's in business over in China Uh-huh. His business got lots and lots of money
[00:17:31] Jesse Fries:
suddenly. Oh, I wonder how that happened.
[00:17:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. And, you know, it's not just that one thing. There are a lot of other things too where she's where she suppose where she allegedly, cut China corners, made, you know, made it so that they had a little bit more influence. And and at at the same time, her husband's business kept getting bigger and bigger and getting better deals and stuff like that. So, yeah, that that that was very interesting.
[00:18:00] Jesse Fries:
That is. That is. So I think we're able to hear this. You know? Where is it? Yep. Weird.
[00:18:08] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes.
[00:18:12] Jesse Fries:
Well, that would suck. But yeah. I I that that was a funny story. It was like, yeah, once I heard there's espionage and saw the names, I am, like, going, yeah, that's China. Yeah. That's,
[00:18:25] Jamon Fries:
find who else would it be. No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:18:33] Jesse Fries:
That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. Speaking of funny, these are are are 2 people running for president, Harrison Trump. They really can't seem to get their stories straight. They keep swapping and switching their, policies like nobody's business. You know? Now Harris is, like, for a wall. She's for fracking now even though she was against it.
[00:18:59] Jamon Fries:
She she just fracking? Isn't that isn't that gonna be, like, destroying what the democrats want?
[00:19:05] Jesse Fries:
Right. But now she's for she isn't, well, she says she's not against fracking now, even though she was for the new Green Deal and everything like that, and was completely anti fracking. Now she's saying that, she doesn't mind fracking, that can keep going. She's even she's even said that she's gonna build a border wall.
[00:19:29] Jamon Fries:
What? I don't understand what's going on here. I mean, it it I I know that politicians will say just about anything to get elected, but you shouldn't start agreeing with things that your opponent has been saying all along.
[00:19:44] Jesse Fries:
But act actually, that's exactly what Bill Clinton did. That's how Bill Clinton got elected. He he would That is true. Yeah. He he went completely moderate. He was a moderate democrat. He was not highly progressive or highly liberal. He was a moderate democrat. And him and actually the republicans actually got a lot through, during the other stint together. So yeah. He had a few scandals here or there, of course.
[00:20:10] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. Then Who who isn't gonna have scandals. I mean Exactly. Exactly.
[00:20:15] Jesse Fries:
And then with all this Harris, you know, so Harris has been doing good. To me, that it's a good political move because, you know, really, what is she? Nobody actually knows what she is. Yep. You you know, they say one thing and everything like that, but is she just doing it to gain power? Because that's usually what these people want. It's just power. And so they will say and do anything. They'll pick a side and go with it. So I really don't know what she is. As a prosecutor, she was very heavy against crime and everything like that, more conservative in that way.
Now she says that was bad policy or whatever. But, yeah, it was like so I really don't know what she is because she's also, daughter of immigrants. So it's like one's from one was Jamaican and one is Indian. Yep. Generally, a lot of, immigrants are more conservative in nature. You know? They're not They usually are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my wife, she she she she's more conservative in nature. You know? So it's kinda
[00:21:17] Jamon Fries:
It may have something to do with the lot of the oh, you know, a lot of them are fleeing from you know, not not all not all immigrants are fleeing, but a lot there are quite a few immigrants that are fleeing situations bad back at home, and they they come here for the conservative values of the United States. You know, the the US the the media isn't going to, you know, the the the well, not really the media, but the police aren't going to arrest you because of your political leanings and stuff like that. Right. Exactly.
[00:21:53] Jesse Fries:
The the freedom. Yeah. That's
[00:21:56] Jamon Fries:
slowly changing, but
[00:21:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. We we we we'll have to see how that goes. We'll have to see where the country goes with that one. But, yeah, I I I find it funny that she kept moving back and forth. And then Trump tried to do the same thing. He like Did he really? Yeah. It was hilarious. It was, he was he he's been getting in all this trouble about abortion. Right? Uh-huh. And so because he kept saying, no, we'll just stop it and everything like that. He he switched and he goes, oh, no. You know, you you can get a we'll make sure that you can get abortions up until a certain time, like 6 weeks or 6 months. I I can't remember exactly what the time frame was. He did. Really? He did. He did. And then but it didn't work out so well for him because Yeah. It wouldn't. Because the conservatives
[00:22:45] Jamon Fries:
just base is is basically anti abortion.
[00:22:49] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. And so, yeah, he's had a really hard time of he he's really been trying to he and then in Florida, there was a, ballot initiative to legalize drugs or something like that of some sort. Yeah. And he actually said that he was for that bill to to legalize drugs. And, of course, everybody went against them. So it's like both of them are trying to come to the center, but it's only working for one of them.
[00:23:23] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It definitely won't work it won't work for Trump. Trump has always been an extremely right wing as far as policies go that I've seen. That's the thing. Oh, no. His supporters are. He is anything but. Yeah. Exactly. Supporters are all very right wing. I mean, up until he ran for president, the first time, he was a registered democrat in almost almost his entire life. I mean No. Exactly. Exactly. You know? So I mean which which is one of the things that I really like about him is that he sees what could be good for the country and doesn't necessarily put his own political leanings into that.
[00:24:06] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That that that's kinda how I see it too, but, of course, the liberals just attack him as Nazians and everything like that. But Yeah. Yeah. To me, I I think he's Hitler. He's the orange Hitler. Exactly. Except, apparently, he changes his makeup now, so he's not so orange anymore. You know? So that one That's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That was in the news. Or
[00:24:31] Jamon Fries:
or spray tan or whatever it was. I don't know what it was. News.
[00:24:35] Jesse Fries:
Of course, it did.
[00:24:37] Jamon Fries:
I just find that hilarious. Right? There's so much going on in this world. Why does it matter what color his skin is because of his prey on tan?
[00:24:49] Jesse Fries:
Because orange man bad. Plain simple. That that's what it is. That's what it is. And, yeah. Yeah.
[00:24:58] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:24:59] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yeah.
[00:25:03] Jamon Fries:
That that so I'm gonna get off politics here for a little bit and go into my other love, which is, technology.
[00:25:11] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:25:13] Jamon Fries:
What do you think of current of what they of this current so called virtual reality stuff? Oh, virtual reality? Virtual reality. Do you consider it virtual reality?
[00:25:25] Jesse Fries:
Well, it it it it could be a precursor to it, but not really because you don't get all your senses, into it. It's just a screen on your head.
[00:25:40] Jamon Fries:
It's just It's it's just a it's just 2 smiles 2 tiny little computer screens
[00:25:45] Jesse Fries:
that are very close to your eyes. That's all it is. Yeah. I I've played with it a bit, but it's not it's not
[00:25:53] Jamon Fries:
yeah. I'm not impressed really by it. It seems stupid Yeah. Personally. But Well, I I just I just don't think that it could that it should actually be qualified to be classified as virtual reality. I mean, virtual reality should be something where at least some of your senses or something like that are tied into the game, where you can feel what's going on. And I know that they have suits and stuff that you can buy for massive amounts of money. They'll, like, vibrate and put pressure on certain parts to your body when something happens and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But I'm much more interested in actual virtual reality.
And so I I did a little bit of dye digging the other day, and we're actually a little bit closer than I thought we would be. Oh, yeah. So I I knew that, we had the the brain computer interface with, Elon Musk's Neuralink Uh-huh. You know, where where you can interact with a computer with that. Yep. Supposedly.
[00:26:57] Jesse Fries:
I don't know.
[00:26:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. According to all the news articles that I've seen, we we did they can. Good. I I know that currently, I was kind of impressed by this, but there is a person I it didn't really say where he was from or who was doing the research that I saw, but I I did see others on more than one more than one place. There's a man that was paralyzed from the neck down. He had very slight ability to move his arms, but nothing else. Mhmm. That because of implants in the brain and a bypass of his spinal cord, he's now walking again. He can use his body just fine.
Nice. You know, he he still uses crutches and stuff because well, I mean, he's been paralyzed for a very long time, so he doesn't have very good muscle strength or anything like that. But Mhmm. I mean, just just the fact that that we can that we've basically gone from from nothing to be able to to bypass the spinal cord injury by routing movement through the by routing the commands of the brain. I I think that's insanely awesome.
[00:28:14] Jesse Fries:
It is. That is really cool.
[00:28:17] Jamon Fries:
MIT recently has been doing a study on helping blind people see. Uh-huh. They we've all we've always know they're they're for quite a while now, for at least the last 10, 15 years, there have been, fake retinas that that MIT invented that that you could put into the eye. Yep. But it would never it would never do anything if for damage to the actual optic nerve or beyond. Mhmm. But now they've they've invented this this thing with it's again, it's implants where they, they can put a probe on onto the brain. Right now, it has it has 100 little spikes on it that each send signals. So a but a blunt but with that, the blind person can start seeing shapes and stuff like that. The the lady who tested it was actually able to play a video game. Oh, that's cool.
She could she could see the outline of doors and of of furniture and stuff like that, so she was able to walk around all that and avoid everything. And because it puts out so little electrical output, they think that they could put up to 6 to 8 of them on the human brain, which would, you know, you're multiplying things, so it goes from a 10 from a 100 pixel up to, like, a 700 or 800 pixel picture basically is is what it'll show is what the person will see. Mhmm. So, I mean, so we we're it's very far from anything that virtual reality would actually need. Right. But we're what we're where our understanding is the optic area of the brain enough to be able to to do stuff like that. They they can they can see general shapes and things like that. So that's pretty cool.
[00:30:09] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That is really cool. That is really cool. Yeah. There are
[00:30:15] Jamon Fries:
recently now for people that are deaf Uh-huh. There have the they have come up with a way to, put an implant into the brain stem Mhmm. That they can hook up to a speaker outside of that's outside of the skull and that person can hear through that. So you don't so there there were a lot of people that couldn't that cochlear implants wouldn't work for them because the, because the nerve from the ear to the brain was had a disconnect. Uh-huh. And so the cochlear implant, which is just in the ear, wouldn't have wouldn't have affected that at all. But now they're starting to be able to bypass that with a direct link into the brain as well. Oh, that's cool. That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. They are slowly also working on the ability to talk.
This is this was designed for people that are, that have had, like, a stroke and have problems talking and stuff. Oh, okay. Okay. But they with an interface on the brain, it also right now is connected to the, muscle structure of everything involved that involves speech, you know, the Right. The larynx, the jaw, the tongue, the everything. Mhmm. But they they can now they through a computer, they can now actually hold conversations in a much more real time than they could before. Because before it would take like 30 minutes for a 5 second conversation almost because they had to, like, move a cursor around on a screen to to hit a word or a letter. They had to type stuff out. So it's it's a lot faster now. So put all of that together.
In virtual reality, we this is all with implants, unfortunately, which would probably never get approved by any medical for any medical reason, to be done for a game or anything like that. Right. But we have the ability to for speech to be controlled by the brain, for sound, for for movement, for vision, and we have the interface with the brain. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. If we could make all of that wireless and, you know, of course, we have to we have to advance the technology. But if we could make it all wireless, so you just have to put a helmet on Right. Right. Right. Right. Virtual reality.
[00:32:38] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Wow. That was a good Like I said, yeah. Yeah. One that had a lot that went into it. Yeah. Yeah. No. That that that that makes a lot of sense, actually. Yeah. You could you take all those things and for a regular person, non disabled of any sort, if you could figure out that, you could actually input all the data into somebody, and it would actually be virtual. It'd be like the demolition man sex that they had. Yeah. If you remember that, they put on a helmet and they'd be they went swap any yeah.
[00:33:18] Jamon Fries:
No. That's interesting. That. Yeah. That's been a long time. I've never even heard about that movie.
[00:33:23] Jesse Fries:
Really? It's actually been coming up a lot lately. They've been, talking about it, how, basically, everything that happened there is basically happening now. You know? It's like, basically, men have become wusses, and then all the other ones are left out, like, have to live in the sewers, the ones that eat the meat and everything. Like, like, they're really extrapolating, Republicans versus Democrats with it right now. It's kind of funny.
[00:33:52] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. That's amazing.
[00:33:55] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. Well, let's see. On another technology point, apparently, they're starting to figure out 6 g, for, wireless communications. Are they really? Yeah. Yeah. They've been doing some studies and everything like that. They've been able to get the data rate to error free up to 64 gigs a second.
[00:34:17] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:34:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So That's why Exactly. Exactly. And then if you do employ even more complex modulation, you can get up to a 190 gigabytes per second. So Dang. Yeah. Yeah. My thing is though, is is it really needed? You know, you know, it's like, in all honesty, so 5 g, it's okay. But so is 4 g. 4 g, I could stream movies. I didn't have a problem with it. You know, I really have it. Yeah. From my end, I'm sure there's some technical, like, for big companies and everything like that. This can be used to transfer when you need to and everything like that, maybe for cars or whatnot. But for a basic user, it's kinda like, okay. Who cares?
[00:35:06] Jamon Fries:
You know, it's like Well, I mean, with with with that technology, there there are a few things that it would be easier to do without being hardwired into the Internet. Right. For example, you know, like you said, cars, autopilots and stuff like that, the auto autonomous driving would be would probably work a little bit better.
[00:35:27] Jesse Fries:
May but, see, see, that's the thing is connection. But it really doesn't use any data, the the these autonomous cars right now because the cars aren't talking to each other. Maybe if they get to a point where the the cars can talk to each other, but at this point, it's it's like my wife, she has a she has a, what is it? G, Chevy Traverse. Right? And it's fully loaded, and it has a supercruise in it. So it just drives itself on many, many roads. It's kinda crazy how many roads it can do right now. Okay. But it is still in its infancy. You know, it's still just using the it's still just using the lane markers. That's basically all it does. It's not I don't think it's maybe it's talking to somebody else, but it really the it's just using the lane markers. And even then, it's kinda stupid sometimes, you know. You really have to you really actually have to pay attention as you're letting it drive, you know. It's, Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, well, it's it's a new technology. I mean, you know, that's that's some that there's always that that phase where
[00:36:38] Jamon Fries:
the technology is almost good enough that people think that they don't have to pay attention to it anymore. Yep. Yep.
[00:36:45] Jesse Fries:
But it's not there yet. So if you have no attention to it, something bad can real something really bad can happen. Yeah. It is kind of fun, though. It'll change lanes and everything like that, all by itself. That's cool. That's cool. On some I'm sure I'm
[00:37:00] Jamon Fries:
I'm sure it probably does have some kind of a of an inner in intricate, interface with with an outside source. At least that would hope for a map. Well,
[00:37:13] Jesse Fries:
they say so, but I don't see the evidence in what it can do. You you know what I mean? It's it's like, Yeah. They're they're saying, like, in future iterations, it will be able to, like, change roads. So go from, like, I don't know, 94 to 49 4 all by itself, you know, and things like that. And you can put it in the directions and then it'll go. But it can't do that now. All it from my point of view, all it's doing it will it's doing adaptive cruise, so it can keep with traffic. Right? Right. So it'll slow down, it'll break, it'll stop and then go again when traffic keeps going and everything like that. But Okay. So that's adaptive cruise. I have it in my car. I love it. You can't live without it. Yeah. That's I've heard that that's fairly common in a lot of new cars. It is. It's very common and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. You can really more or less relax as you're driving. It takes less of your brain.
But beyond that, all it is doing is keeping to the lanes, which technically my car can do as well. It just doesn't do it as good, and mine doesn't have Super Cruise. So I don't know. Okay. There's probably more computing in it so that it's not so jerky, because mine will just stick within the lane. So it'll kind of like move throughout the lane until it sees the line and they'll move back. The Super Cruise will actually keep it in the same spot in the lane, so you're not moving back and forth. You're not like a drunk driver or anything like that with Super Cruise. With my car, I just let it go. It'll be like a drunk driver within the lane.
[00:38:53] Jamon Fries:
There's still a lot of cops chasing you all over the place. Exactly.
[00:38:56] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. Beyond that, it's I I I'm sure there's more going on in the background. But from what I can just see, it it just seems it's doing lanes, and that's about it, an adaptive cruise. You know? So it has sensors and everything like that, but the the the it's I'm waiting for the cars to be able to talk so that they can really go fast.
[00:39:22] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. When when once the cars can start communicating with each other. Yep. Then it you know, not only will you be able to go really fast, but you won't have that slow person sitting there doing nothing.
[00:39:38] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:39:41] Jamon Fries:
Oh, I think I think that's what I that yeah.
[00:39:44] Jesse Fries:
No. I was just gonna say, one of the downsides to Super Cruise also is, you you know, the top speed. You know? Come on. It needs to be faster than 85. I'm just saying. You know?
[00:39:59] Jamon Fries:
I agree with that. I think there's times you need to get away from something.
[00:40:04] Jesse Fries:
Well well well, no. I'm just saying the top speed in Texas, which is has the there's this middle road just south of us. It's speed limit is 85. So I wanna be able to say No worries. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's the highest in the United States. It is like one of the highest in the world.
[00:40:25] Jamon Fries:
Except for, like, the Autobahn where there's no speed limit or whatnot. So yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. As an actual sense I think there's also places up in Montana. I mean, now this was a long time ago, so it could have changed by now. Yeah. But when I was driving over the road back in early 2000, if I remember correctly, there were a couple places on the interstate up in Montana where there was no speed limit.
[00:40:45] Jesse Fries:
There was that. I
[00:40:47] Jamon Fries:
I I thought that they had changed it, but I really don't know on that. They might have. Again, it's been a long time since I've been up there. You know, it's been almost 20 years since then. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. It's
[00:40:59] Jesse Fries:
but yeah. 85. Come on. Yeah. But but no. It's fun just letting the car drive at 85 miles an hour by itself. It's kinda Oh, I can only imagine. It's a bit freaky, but you get used to it. You know? It's just like it's just like adaptive cruise. Adaptive cruise took a lot to get used to, especially, like, with braking and everything like that. Hoo doggy, that can be scary. Even to this day, sometimes I don't trust it.
[00:41:24] Jamon Fries:
Well, I I you know, that that's one of the problems that I personally would have with that kind of vehicle is I like being in control of my vehicle.
[00:41:32] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. And so do I. But it's like
[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:
What control? You know, it's like I can't react I can't react as fast as a computer can. No. Exactly. There's a lot of things that I can't do as well as a computer can. So you know?
[00:41:47] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Do you have anything anything else tech related? No. Not tech related, actually. No. Okay. I I do. I do. So Okay. Apparently, somebody's actually been busted. Who is it? It was a ad place. Cox Media Group, claims that it's active listening software uses AI to collect and analyze real time intent data by listening to what you say through your phone, laptop, or home assistant microphone. So basically, all those people that say my phone is listening to me, it was listening to you.
[00:42:32] Jamon Fries:
I mean, that that's not really new news. It it may be news for new new for Cox, but, I mean, isn't that No. No. No. No. Siri and stuff like that have been accused of doing too in the past? Right. But nobody has
[00:42:44] Jesse Fries:
actually proven it, and nobody's actually seen a company say we do this. There's always been Oh, yeah. It's always been like an urban legend, you know, that that that's always what it's been. But this this this media group has it says that it's actually doing admitted it. Wow. Exactly. Yeah. It's exactly big. It was in their slide deck for selling their services to, like, Facebook and Google and everything like that. Okay. Okay. Some of the big boys I think Google says, we've never used them, we'll never use them. So I don't know the but but, yeah, they're they're they're all doing that. Everybody's like, I think Facebook fired them, after this came out, even though they were taking advantage of it.
But yeah. That's, I thought that was hilarious.
[00:43:32] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That really is. Yeah. You know, I've I've always I I I don't have anything like that in my house. I've I've thought about getting, like, Roku and stuff like that. But Uh-huh. Any anything that that has a voice command where you just have to say something to activate its supposedly activate its listening ability. But, I mean, it's already listening, so they can hear that voice command. So I'm not really sure why they say it's activating its listening capability. But, anyways Yep. Anything like that, even even if the company itself isn't using it in that way, that signal is is I mean, I'm I'm assuming that that that signal for a hacker would be very easy to hack into.
[00:44:18] Jesse Fries:
It's probably encrypted, I would say. Because most He'd hope so, but I mean, it's Pretty much everything on the phone is encrypted. Pretty much everything is encrypted. It's basically default now is just to encrypt everything before it's sent and everything like that. But what what I think this is saying is that it's even using your phone it's like it's it's like in a app, that it has, like, in the Facebook app or whatever app, maybe your banking app that it has a deal with. Maybe it turns on the microphone that you just don't realize it, and then it just extracts. You know, with the EULA's, you they could be doing they do anything to you. So Absolutely.
[00:44:56] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I'm not sure if it's That is one of the downsides of advanced technology is you never know who's listening no matter what you're do no matter where you are.
[00:45:06] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly.
[00:45:09] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's insane.
[00:45:11] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is.
[00:45:14] Jamon Fries:
Anything else? What you got? Well, the the last one that I have, you know, last week, I'd I was talking about diet and stuff like that. Uh-huh. I happened to, pull up to be yeah. I was I was just looking for recipes. I've I've, I've been wanting to I've been missing fish. I'd I'd really wanna eat fish. Uh-huh. But I don't I don't wanna do, like, the store bought, you know, throw it in the oven type of with the with, you know, like the the fast fish that you can just toss in the oven and then you get this fish stick or whatever. I I want actual fish. So I was looking up recipes, and I came across something that just I I shouldn't be surprised by it, but I've I I'm more amused by it, I think.
There were about 1010 or 12 different websites that were claiming that people that were on the Mediterranean diet were less affected by COVID than basically anybody else.
[00:46:24] Jesse Fries:
How does that make sense? Italy. Just saying.
[00:46:29] Jamon Fries:
I I mean, you know, but but they're they're they're saying that the Mediterranean diet is what is like a it it's not a cure all, of course. You can still catch COVID, but this is the red the chances are reduced, and you can still die from COVID, but the chances are reduced. Uh-huh. The the usual you the supposedly they say that usually it mean it will be a less severe COVID that you get. But the problem with that that I see is I've also seen a lot of reports talking about how the group of people that are that were most affected by COVID and where it was the severest in Mhmm. Amongst them and they had the most deaths Uh-huh. Was people with with prediabetes, type 1 diabetes, and type 2 diabetes.
Okay. Well, the Mediterranean diet, if done properly, helps control blood sugar.
[00:47:37] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:47:37] Jamon Fries:
But it's not the only one. So, yes, there are less people that are diabetic that are on the Mediterranean diet, but that's also the same for the keto diet and all these other diets that are, you know, that are so that are proposed to to help reduce the to reduce diabetes and stuff like that. But they're specifically came claiming that it's the Mediterranean diet because of the the vitamins and stuff that you get that help reduce inflammation.
[00:48:06] Jesse Fries:
Okay. So it's it's it's it's
[00:48:09] Jamon Fries:
very surprised yeah. I I just found it very surprising that that groups were now coming out even, you know, even people that are supposedly, you know, places that you can trust, they're coming out and saying, this specific diet Uh-huh. Will help you will help you prevent COVID from will help prevent dying from COVID.
[00:48:31] Jesse Fries:
But but don't they remember one of the first hot spots of the COVID? Don't they remember that wasn't that in the Mediterranean? Yeah. Yeah. It's Italy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It doesn't make sense. Well, just because of that. I'm sorry. You know, they're on the Mediterranean, so everything they eat Yes.
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Is a medicine. Mediterranean diet. Exactly.
[00:49:00] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[00:49:02] Jamon Fries:
So But he's for but from my research on the Mediterranean diet, there's actually, like, 3 or 4 different beliefs on the Mediterranean diet. There's the Greek Mediterranean diet. There's the Italian Mediterranean diet, and then there's other places and stuff like that. Well, the Greek Mediterranean diet has a lot less grains in it. Right. Right. There's not so much muscle there. Eat nearly as much grains. Yeah. Yep. So and, you know, so grains being the carbohydrates turns into sugar in the body, turns into glu you know, glucose, which is how the the high glucose levels determine diabetes. So, you know, I it's I was I was watching this one video that was saying that the Mediterranean diet and and, the keto diet both impact the, blood sugar levels the same.
Okay. Pretty much, there there's no no major difference.
[00:49:59] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:50:01] Jamon Fries:
They forgot to add one little caveat to that report that I saw much later buried deep into everything
[00:50:08] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:50:09] Jamon Fries:
Was that they were using people that were diabetic that were currently on medication for diabetes
[00:50:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:50:17] Jamon Fries:
For the people on Zim for the big Uh-huh. Sorry. Well, no. Not not on Zim because Zim will help with diabetes. Metformin is what they were on. Okay. Okay. So the, the people on keto that were were adapt that were switched over to the keto diet Uh-huh. Were completely taken off of Metformin. But the people on the Mediterranean diet only had their metformin cut in half. And they claimed that it was that there was no difference in results. So I mean, can you be more dis dishonest in a scientific study?
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That's kinda messed up, yo. That's, I yep. Nope. Not buying it. That's,
[00:51:04] Jamon Fries:
yeah. No. Yeah. Me either.
[00:51:07] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's a okay.
[00:51:12] Jamon Fries:
That's why all those things It it and supposedly, it was it was a lot of the other stuff I can agree with because what they did is they had people on the Mediterranean and then they'd switch to the keto where other people were on keto and then they'd switch to Mediterranean. And then they'd both switch to basically an uncontrolled diet.
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
Correct.
[00:51:32] Jamon Fries:
And so, you know but just the entry level from just the entry level being flawed from the from the, at with the metformin amounts, to me, that throws the entire study off. Right. Right. Because you you can't you can't trust any of the data for the people that were originally on the Mediterranean diet because they were still taking metformin while the people on the on keto were not. So that that entire group is to me, should just be thrown out.
[00:52:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Who who who paid for this, study?
[00:52:12] Jamon Fries:
It didn't say.
[00:52:13] Jesse Fries:
It didn't say. Did you go to the study itself?
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
No. I I couldn't find the study itself. I don't really know how to research into stuff like that. I can old I only I can only find the reports on it. I've never really been able even if I could find the studies, there's so much jargon and stuff in there. I've I can never understand half of what I read in those anyways.
[00:52:36] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Well well, hit me up if you ever wanna know because I'm pretty good at researching that stuff out. So it's Okay. Okay. Yeah. I will do that. Yeah. I I I can read studies. I I know what to look for and everything like that. That that's why I have a master's, you know. Nothing else. I got that out of it, you know. Beyond that, I don't know. But, yeah, I I know how to read a study at least out of that. So it's, Yep.
[00:53:00] Jamon Fries:
Yep. That's always a good thing to know.
[00:53:02] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. Yeah.
[00:53:05] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I I wish that they would just, you know, say what the result was. I don't need to see all of I mean, yes. Knowing all the different more methods of testing is important to see if if it's actually if you believe it's valid or not. But come on. At least give me a concise, this is what it is. Exactly. That's what I need to see.
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. That is, important stuff.
[00:53:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It is.
[00:53:35] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Do I have anything else? Oh, Ford Motor Company is ending their DEI, their diversity equity, whatever, in their company.
[00:53:46] Jamon Fries:
So Are they really?
[00:53:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They're getting rid of that. Apparently, they've seen the writing on the wall with Harley Davidson. And,
[00:53:55] Jamon Fries:
yeah, there's a few Some others. Instead of saying to doing that. Yeah. Well, Harley Davidson was, boycotted there for a bit.
[00:54:02] Jesse Fries:
So Sturgis was not a happy time for Harley Davidson this year. It was pretty brutal, actually. Oh, was it really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Their stand was completely empty. Nobody was going there. It's like Harley Davidson. It's like, come on, dude. So you you're Harley Davidson. Do you know who your market is? Old white guys. You know?
[00:54:22] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. So just
[00:54:26] Jesse Fries:
maybe don't do the DEI stuff. Old white guys don't really go for it. Not just
[00:54:31] Jamon Fries:
not just old white guys, but old old white guys with decent money.
[00:54:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, well, with money, yes. Well, most old people have money. You know, that's how it works. The older you get, the more money you have. It's 10 it's generally how it works out. Not not always the only true. You still have time. You're alive, Jamen. You know, you never know. You know, it's and and, you know, it's like next year you might have more money than this year. You know, it wouldn't take much. But you know, it is true. That is true.
[00:55:00] Jamon Fries:
It would take very little, but it's true. Exactly.
[00:55:03] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Sadly, as more money comes in, my rent keeps going up too. So, you know Well, they tie that in. I'm sure they're looking at what the solar I know they do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:55:15] Jamon Fries:
they go, oh. Yeah. And it's kind of it's kind of funny. Every I I I see the I see the statement how much money I'm gonna get coming in, and I'm like, yes. That that is awesome. I'll have a little bit more money than I can do stuff with. And then And then I get to notice that my rent is going up by, like, $5 less than the increase I get it. Exactly.
[00:55:36] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Just wait. What? Damn it. No. Well well, now what Trump and probably Harris too, they've been talking about the the not taxing Social Security benefits. Yeah. And so what would happen? They would just your rent would just go up by that much. Anything.
[00:55:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, I know, but It wouldn't impact anything. I understand that, but they it might still. You never know. Yeah. Yeah. It might. Yeah. No. Because because you that's that's one thing I don't I find funny because you don't actually and and and and until you hit a certain income level outside of disability or social security, you don't actually pay taxes on disability or or social security.
[00:56:26] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yep.
[00:56:28] Jamon Fries:
So the only time you start paying taxes is if you make more money. So that that will not help the people that don't make extra income. It'll only help the people that do. So Oh, yeah. So It's a good thing, but at the same time, it it affects
[00:56:44] Jesse Fries:
a good portion of the country in no way, shape, or form at all. So, basically, it's just helping the rich again is what you're telling me? Yes. Yes. So so so it's helping, like, mom and dad. People that make yes. Yes. Mom and dad make enough money. They're probably paying taxes on social media. Their investments in, the job and everything like that. So and then but they also get Social Security because they're of the age. And so Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's only helping them. So okay.
[00:57:10] Jamon Fries:
So yeah. I think I think that's that's another thing that I don't like. That's another thing I don't really like. So I don't like the fact that you have that you're mandate mandated that you have to start taking Social Security at a certain age. If you're making enough money outside of it, why do you need to take those payments?
[00:57:32] Jesse Fries:
Well, it it's because you paid into it. And so basically, if you don't if they don't have that, then people will be going, well, that's just a tax. And right now they can sell it that it's not just a tax. It's actually investing in your future. Because once you do that, then then the the next step would be, well, you make too much money. You can't have your Social Security. Yeah. Then it would definitely be a tax. Exactly. Exactly. And that's probably how it would end up being, You know? So it's Yeah. Yep.
[00:58:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I understand where you're coming from, but I see it. I've always been confused. You know? Why would Donald Trump need to collect Social Security?
[00:58:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. They don't. He doesn't. Even our parents don't probably. They're they're doing fine without. But, you know, it's just extra gravy on top and, you know, may maybe the it'll just be put into to the estate and then we all have to deal with it. You know? It's just that sort of thing. So
[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. It's I I've just you know, to me, it's just always never really made sense that I understand. I understand. It's the mandatory part that I'm that confuses me. You know? Because a lot of a lot of these people, you know, as soon as you go on Social Security, you're also on Medicare. Mhmm. Which means that anybody that had those really nice, really expensive medical net health insurance
[00:59:03] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:59:05] Jamon Fries:
They can't have that anymore.
[00:59:07] Jesse Fries:
No. Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. But once you're certain age, you have to do Medicaid.
[00:59:11] Jamon Fries:
Medicare. Yeah. You you have to be on Medicare, and the most you can do is get this Medicare supplements, but that's still not gonna be the really premium health insurance plans that these richer people use would have had.
[00:59:25] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:59:26] Jamon Fries:
But but then you just have to pay out of pocket for it. So, you know, it's just Well, yeah. Yeah. You have to pay out of pocket for it. But the the thing that the thing that I don't understand is if they're trying to make it so that Social Security will last longer and so that Medicare is not as expensive because I've I heard some reports that the Medicare budget is even higher than the Department of Defense budget right now. Holy hell. Okay. Yeah.
[00:59:54] Jesse Fries:
That's crazy.
[00:59:56] Jamon Fries:
So can you imagine how much how much money you could save if we didn't force everybody onto Medicare as soon as they as soon as they got to retirement age and let them keep the plans that they were currently on? If you weren't on a good plan, absolutely, Medicare can come in and help you. But if you were on a sweet deal if you had if you had a sweet deal in the past, why not let those people stay on that sweet deal and not be a burden on the government through Medicare?
[01:00:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. I can see that.
[01:00:27] Jamon Fries:
There's so much stuff that just doesn't make sense.
[01:00:32] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. I'm trying to find the defense budget for the. Okay. So I'm trying to do apples to apples here.
[01:00:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, let's see the defense budget for heard in a couple of different places. Right. The defense budget,
[01:00:49] Jesse Fries:
for 2024, funding year 2024, is 8 849,800,000,000. Oh, that's for fiscal year 2025. And then Medicare budget for 2023, so more than likely the it's a year ago, so it probably would have been less for the military a little bit. But for Medicare, it was 848,200,000,000. So yeah. Yeah. It it it's it's probably a bit more. Just just a little bit. But, but, you know something wee bit. Just a wee bit. But, you know something, you know, I I'm kinda happy about that. You know? It's like Oh, yeah. I don't think our military needs that much. So I think they should spend more on us than the military. On the on people. Yes. I I do agree with that. But I just I I, you know, just just the if if they made it so that
[01:01:52] Jamon Fries:
anything that we can do to reduce to reduce the budget will also help reduce the debt. Right. Hopefully, as long as they don't find something else to spend the money on. Uh-huh. But, I mean so why not even if you don't do massive changes, at least, you know, little ones, let let rich people pay for their own insurance if they want to. Mhmm. You know, they can they should be able to opt in to Medicare. But they should also have the option of not going into Medicare. I think one of the reasons that they one of the one of the benefits of to the government of them not doing that is it gives them more, negotiation Yeah. Of our power. And the prices of of prep everything. So, you know, that that may be that might play some part in that. They they can guarantee that there's gonna be the x number of people that will be using Medicare, so they'll get much better deals on everything.
[01:02:53] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Oh, I found the number for probably plays a small part. I found the number for, funding year 2023 for defense budget. It was, 8 times it was 813,300,000,000. Okay. Okay. And so Medicare was, like, 30,000,000,000 more Yeah. For that same year. So yeah. Yep.
[01:03:15] Jamon Fries:
I I just you know, I I always knew that we spent a lot on the military. I had no idea that Medicare's budget was even higher than the med military. So that that was that was kind of a, eye opener for me. Well well well, taking care of those baby boomers, that's an expensive,
[01:03:33] Jesse Fries:
That was a big generation. They're all old now. Every last one of them is old. So it's, it's like I'm tail end of x and, you you know, I am already
[01:03:44] Jamon Fries:
mid 50 mid forties. So it's a Us gen us gen x generation, we're gonna we're we're getting up there too now.
[01:03:53] Jesse Fries:
We are. We are. We are. I'll get 50 next year.
[01:03:56] Jamon Fries:
It I'm not supposed to be that old. I don't feel that old. Darn it.
[01:04:01] Jesse Fries:
Tell me about it. You you know, it's I I can't believe all 4 of us have lasted this long, you know. Yeah. It's a No. Okay. We should start wrapping this up. Let's take care of some business here. So we're not live streaming this, right now because I can't figure out how to connect to the host. I'm trying to figure that out. I was testing yesterday and everything like that, and it just wouldn't connect to the host. It was really annoying. Oh, okay. So I put everything in correctly. Yeah. I put everything in correctly, and then it just doesn't work. So, but, I'm working on it. I'm also working on a different way to do it. Maybe do it through YouTube or something like that.
Livestream through that. I signed up to be able to livestream. And apparently, YouTube apparently, they have a it's like with handguns. They have a waiting time limit, a cooldown period. It's like 24 hours. Yeah. You have to wait 24 hours before you get livestream for some godass reason. After all, stream for some god ass reason.
[01:05:06] Jamon Fries:
After all, the consequences of live stream are just as bad as the consequence of buying a gun for the wrong reason.
[01:05:13] Jesse Fries:
Right? Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, Have to wait 24 hours. So so that'll be up, like, in, 5 hours. I'll be able to live stream if I want to. But yeah, so hopefully next time, we will be streaming this live. I would really love to do that.
[01:05:37] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I think that was I'd be happy to do that too. Yep. Yep. And, as always, we need your money here.
[01:05:44] Jesse Fries:
We are a value for value, podcast. So that means whatever you can give us, whatever you feel, this podcast gave you, please give that back to us in monetary or even ideas for, topics or anything like that. You can shoot me an email. It's jesse atmindlessc.com. Jayme, what's your email so that they can email you, with topics? Do you have a good one? Right. Maybe not? I
[01:06:10] Jamon Fries:
I'll set one up for next for the next stream. I don't have one that doesn't get a whole lot of junk email right now. So I'd probably miss half of it. I mean, half of anything sent to me. We we will get him set up with that,
[01:06:24] Jesse Fries:
to be determined. But or you can email me and then I can, send that on to him if you'd wanna send Jamon some stuff. But yeah. Just send us what you think this is worth to you. And, I think what we should do is, have, like, producers, for the show. So you guys send in, and you can be a producer for the show, which will be actually good on IMDB and everything like that. It is a real credit. You are actually producing this podcast if you send us, some money. So what it will be, the way I'm thinking it is that, whoever is the top who sends us the most money, they will be the executive producer for the show. And then after that, they'll just be, regular producers. And you can send in a note for us to read or anything like that. However you wanna do that, that is cool. And just send us what you think, this can what this offered you.
Doing these things is not free, so sending us in money, would be great and would really help us out so we can keep this going.
[01:07:24] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That would definitely be awesome. Okay. Yeah. I mean, hopefully, we provide enough value to you guys to, to actually think that we're worth something. So
[01:07:35] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. So, thank you for listening, to The Mindless Meanderings. I am Jesse Fries.
[01:07:43] Jamon Fries:
And I am Jabin Fries.
[01:07:45] Jesse Fries:
And, you have a great evening, morning, or whatever time of the day it is for you right now.
Hello, welcome to the mindless meanderings, episode 2. Yes, this is the second one in the bag. I am one of your hosts, Jesse Friese, and this is, my brother,
[00:00:31] Jamon Fries:
Jaiman. I'm Jaiman Friese. Hello. How's everybody doing today?
[00:00:35] Jesse Fries:
We we need to work on that, Jaiman. We need to smooth that out a bit, I think I think I think. I will never be smooth. You know that. Yeah. But we can make it a little bit more professional, you know,
[00:00:46] Jamon Fries:
even if we're not. Those.
[00:00:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So, there's been a lot going on in the last week. Some crazy stuff going on, but, also just normal crap going on. Let's see here. One one of my biggest pet peeves lately has been I've been using the Drudge Report for the longest time, you know, as a basic just good for, information, all different types of news and everything like that. But lately, it's just been it's so one-sided. It's it it they he hates Trump or whoever is running the drudge report just hates Trump. That's all it is, is anti Trump, anti this. And I I I like it more of a neutral position personally. And I always thought Drudge it was a bit conservative, but it was also very neutral in a lot of different aspects as well. But when it comes to Trump, it just seems way too
[00:01:45] Jamon Fries:
yeah. Way too one second. Mean, it it's it has slowly been progressing in that in in that manner. I mean, it it is slowly moving towards, say, more with a more leftist lean. Right. It was you know, judge report was first popularized in first time I ever heard about it was, with Rush Limbaugh, you know, way back in the day.
[00:02:07] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. It it got its He was quoting it all the time. Well, yeah. It got its start, with the Monica Lewinsky, scandal. Yep. He was actually the one that broke the news. It was the Treasury report that actually broke the Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton scandal. And so that's where He's not aware of that. Yeah. Yeah. He had an insider. Apparently, I think the insider tried to give the story to other people, other news agencies, but nobody would take it. And so there's this just news aggregate guy that he goes, okay. I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:40] Jamon Fries:
Well, you know, it's not surprising that nobody else would take it. I mean, you know, the way the media is now.
[00:02:46] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Also, sex scandals generally are have always been hushed up, hidden, things like that, especially with the president. Think like JFK and all the sex going on there and everything like that. So it's very Oh, yeah. It's very common for sex just to be whitewashed. But, yeah, he he he really took it from there. And it changed politics.
[00:03:10] Jamon Fries:
I'll give him that. Oh, it really did. Yeah. It it put a it put a much more even playing field on on the, on the topics of of politics for quite a while. But yeah. I mean, even I I've noticed, you know, even a lot of the fact checking things like Reuters and stuff like that, they they've all slowly been moving towards the left where anything that the left says is right and everything that the right says is wrong, and I just I I can't quite understand how they can wrap that up as a fact checking service anymore.
[00:03:45] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's the thing is that there was never a fact checking service to begin with. And then all of a sudden they just and then when Trump came around, they all started going, oh, we have to fact check. And then Yeah. But all these fact checkers, they're all liberally based. They're all left leaning Oh, yeah. Every single last one of them. And so Absolutely. What they find to be a lie is just somebody making a joke, or many different things. It's kinda ridiculous. The whole idea of a fact checker is asinine. It really is. It just doesn't make any sense. It's we're we're on the web. We're everybody says things. Sometimes it's hyperbolic.
Sometimes it's just a joke. Sometimes, they actually mean it. It's hard to it's hard to parse, that. And but yeah. These fact checkers really do try to, seem to go the way of the left,
[00:04:43] Jamon Fries:
and whatever they say is right. Everything do seem to be that way. Yes.
[00:04:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Which I just I like a good neutral position personally. That that because sometimes the right is stupid. Sometimes the left is stupid. And so it's like and there's so much just propaganda running around there. So yeah.
[00:05:07] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, it it's not not only just propaganda, but there it's also I mean, and this is done on the left and the right. Clips. You know, you've got, like, this 5 second blurb of video where the where somebody, whether it's a democrat or a republican, says one thing Mhmm. Completely taken out of context and suddenly, you know, the world's gonna go go to hell if this person becomes not becomes the president or, you know, whatever. He gets elected into office Oh, yeah. Whatever the office happens to be. And I I find that so insane. I mean, you you can't just even if he did say that, even if he meant what you're trying to say that he meant, that's still just one thing that he said.
Yeah. I mean Yep. Sure. It it it's not it may it may play some part in showing who the person is, but it's not going to affect things on a large scale. I mean, you know, to me, it doesn't really matter who's in the who who gets the president. No. Same here. Same here. Same here. Because what's more important is the is the, is the house and the senate. They're the ones that actually come up with the rules. They're the come the ones that come up with the laws. I I I Yes. The president has veto power, but he doesn't have much else.
[00:06:41] Jesse Fries:
Actually, except for maybe now, beforehand, he had complete control if you really think about it. But before the Chevron deference, Supreme Court decision here recently, do you know do you remember what that is? So basically it gave, all the different agencies wide sweeping, rights just to come up with regulations that were law and everything like that, that you could be thrown in jail for and so on and so forth, penalized for and everything like that, just based off of what they thought was best.
[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:
Which is the Which is really bad.
[00:07:18] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. Which is completely horrible. So before that the most recent Chevron deference, or the repeal of Chevron deference. Once that happened, things have gotten more back hopefully, more back with the congress. But from Yeah. The eighties up until this year, it has been, we've had the emperor basically to where his his administration his administration could write any laws, basically, and just, have them passed on. You know? It it was it's Well, I
[00:07:56] Jamon Fries:
I I have a slightly differing differing view on that one. Mhmm. It's not that the president was the emperor. It was that the bureaucracies that were in place were the emperor because a lot of times, you know, the the president doesn't actually control the bureaucracy anymore. Well, anymore. Oh, well, he he does to a certain point. They can fire and hire certain people up at the top, but it's not the it's not the people that he appoints that are actually making most of the decisions. It's the people within the bureaucracy.
[00:08:27] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. But that's just like, your body, you know? You you have a main control, but basically just the root systems of your brainstem are doing most of the hard work just by itself. But then you Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah, no, it's, to me, that's how I look at it. And if he, if the president, he or she, basically they can fire and hire whoever they want, technically, throughout the administration. If they say this is the policy, they there are rules, of course, for government workers and everything like that. But he says, if this is the policy, that's the policy. Plain and simple, that's the policy.
[00:09:04] Jamon Fries:
And so because of that Well, I thought that it worked out that way anyways.
[00:09:08] Jesse Fries:
Well, there's always people that work behind the their backs and everything like that. You know, CIA, FBI, you know, they get dirt on on the president or whatnot or a family member, and then they get their way and so on and so forth. But I I think in general, that's how it works. But, yeah, there's always there there are always exceptions to the rule. So
[00:09:27] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. Mhmm. Yeah. It's, well, you know, it's like the DOJ with all with everything that they've been doing lately. You know? It's I I was, reading some news articles recently here, and I I was very shocked to see that the DOJ has, has, what's the term for it?
[00:09:56] Jesse Fries:
Don't know.
[00:10:02] Jamon Fries:
They opened up the they opened up the case files for it. But they've it I guess back sometime back in February, I think if I read it correctly, they had indicted the, Hamas leadership
[00:10:14] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:10:16] Jamon Fries:
As terrorists.
[00:10:17] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:10:19] Jamon Fries:
And they're just now coming out and saying that, but at the same time, they're pushing for peace over there. So I'm not really sure just where they're trying to go with this. I mean, did they did they give up on Michigan? Because, I always heard that, you know, they would never go against Thomas because because they wanted the voters in Michigan. Of course, you know, that's the right wing put push on things. But, yeah, they they've just recently, indicted the, the leaders of of Hamas for the actions on October 7th.
[00:10:54] Jesse Fries:
But but for what? No. No. Just in all seriousness, for what? They don't either because they have no legal standing to indict them. No. Sir, seriously, this brings up the whole other this brings up a whole another point. The US government has gotten to the point where it's like somebody commits a crime overseas that might tend gently hit us. And all of a sudden Yeah. We we we think we can charge them with crimes of murder and, spy, you know, like Assange for god's sakes. You you you know? He Yeah. Yeah. It was our information, but
[00:11:28] Jamon Fries:
he he he wasn't US citizen. He wasn't in the US when he did it. Exactly. Break any of our laws by doing that. Well, he he He's not he he would I mean, he didn't break any of our laws because our laws don't affect him over there. Exactly. He could do whatever the fuck he wants. It it's not like the entire world is ruled by the United States and whatever we say is a law, becomes a law everywhere. I mean, it just doesn't work that way. Well, apparently, it does. I I I don't know. It's it's stupid.
[00:12:03] Jesse Fries:
They wanna try to make it said it does. I know. I know. And then you have Hollywood even behind them. You you know those FBI shows,
[00:12:11] Jamon Fries:
like FBI, like, Botswana. They have the FBI International, or they used to. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that. I'm all like, the FBI isn't isn't supposed to operate internationally, I thought. That's what I was thinking too. I mean, it's a it's a it's a federal US police force that should only be operating in the US.
[00:12:31] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. And then if you need international help, you get, like, Interpol or the local agencies involved. You you know? It's Well, I mean, that's what Interpol was created for.
[00:12:41] Jamon Fries:
I know. I know. It it It's so that the different police forces of different countries can work together. I mean, sure, it's a European thing, but we but we interact with INTERPOL all the time too. We do. We do. I mean, the Asian countries do. Everybody interacts with Interpol nowadays. See, it I exactly. Few countries that don't. But
[00:13:04] Jesse Fries:
well, just recently I yeah. Just recently, I think we just maybe I heard that we just recently allowed them to actually work inside the United States, like, maybe, like, 10 years ago or something like that.
[00:13:17] Jamon Fries:
I think You want yeah. I could I could see that. The I I could see us not wanting Interpol to come here to uphold laws and stuff like that. I mean, we're not Exactly. Worried for. We're we're the biggest head of the block. We don't have to listen to you. Exactly. It's like we're not part of the ICC, you know, International Criminal Court, you know. We we we don't recognize them, you know, you know. Yeah.
[00:13:36] Jesse Fries:
And so our presidents can kill whoever they want, you know, because of that. Absolutely.
[00:13:40] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes. That's hilarious.
[00:13:47] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I've I I really haven't understood the whole going after crimes. More than likely because an American citizen was killed or something like that, and so because of that, it's against America, which to me is a it's stupid. You you don't it's where the crime happened has jurisdiction, not who actually was murdered. So if, like, an Italian if an Italian gets murdered or raped over here, Italy has no recourse to try that person because the crime never happened there.
[00:14:15] Jamon Fries:
You know? So it's like The most the most they can do is put political pressure on us through their through their state department.
[00:14:22] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Exactly. It's like what was it? The the lady in the UK that, ran somebody over, happened a couple years ago. She was the wife of a low level diplomat, and she, like Okay. I I I think she didn't realize what side of the road to drive on, I think was her story. And then she hit somebody killed a guy, and then the family's been trying to get justice for him and everything like that. And she was like, going, nope. I'm not going back. And the US was going, nope. You don't have to go back. And the UK was trying to get her to go back to face the charges. I think in the end, it would be like
[00:15:00] Jamon Fries:
That that is something that happens all the time. I mean, you there's always gonna be people one country requesting another country citizen to be sent back to their country to be tried for crimes that they committed there. Right. And usually, it happens. But I do know, Yeah. But the US is pretty the US doesn't like sending our people overseas to get tried.
[00:15:24] Jesse Fries:
To the UK, we wouldn't mind. It was just the the issue was the diplomatic immunity. The US State Department decided to say that she had diplomatic immunity because of her husband, even though technically he was low level. So more than likely she actually didn't. Usually it's only like, ambassadors or senior diplomats that actually get Oh, yeah. Family immunity, like kids and whatnot Yeah. Get immunity. So, yeah, it it was a weird case. It really was. But
[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's the first time hearing about that one. But, yeah, that that definitely would be very, very weird. Yeah. I think it was during Bobby. I think it was during Trump years, I think. But, Okay. Okay. Yeah. Did you hear about, the, governor's aid in New York being arrested for, for allegedly working with China?
[00:16:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I I just read that she was arrested, and then I go and then it had her name soon. And I go, Chinese. And I'm like, that that's a spy. And then I read her husband's name, Hu. And I'm like, oh, I didn't even have to read it. I'm just going, they were arrested for spying, plain simple. They there's just Yep. Yep.
[00:16:43] Jamon Fries:
Well, what, what supposedly, what what what happened was, she was decently up there in in a couple of the, couple different, under a couple different governors and stuff. Uh-huh. And there were times where Taiwanese where the Taiwanese government was trying to get in touch with the with the state of New York. I'm not really sure why a foreign country would would need to be in touch with our individual states, but they were trying to and supposedly she blocked all access from them. And in doing so, her husband who's a who's in business over in China Uh-huh. His business got lots and lots of money
[00:17:31] Jesse Fries:
suddenly. Oh, I wonder how that happened.
[00:17:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. And, you know, it's not just that one thing. There are a lot of other things too where she's where she suppose where she allegedly, cut China corners, made, you know, made it so that they had a little bit more influence. And and at at the same time, her husband's business kept getting bigger and bigger and getting better deals and stuff like that. So, yeah, that that that was very interesting.
[00:18:00] Jesse Fries:
That is. That is. So I think we're able to hear this. You know? Where is it? Yep. Weird.
[00:18:08] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. Yes.
[00:18:12] Jesse Fries:
Well, that would suck. But yeah. I I that that was a funny story. It was like, yeah, once I heard there's espionage and saw the names, I am, like, going, yeah, that's China. Yeah. That's,
[00:18:25] Jamon Fries:
find who else would it be. No. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:18:33] Jesse Fries:
That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. Speaking of funny, these are are are 2 people running for president, Harrison Trump. They really can't seem to get their stories straight. They keep swapping and switching their, policies like nobody's business. You know? Now Harris is, like, for a wall. She's for fracking now even though she was against it.
[00:18:59] Jamon Fries:
She she just fracking? Isn't that isn't that gonna be, like, destroying what the democrats want?
[00:19:05] Jesse Fries:
Right. But now she's for she isn't, well, she says she's not against fracking now, even though she was for the new Green Deal and everything like that, and was completely anti fracking. Now she's saying that, she doesn't mind fracking, that can keep going. She's even she's even said that she's gonna build a border wall.
[00:19:29] Jamon Fries:
What? I don't understand what's going on here. I mean, it it I I know that politicians will say just about anything to get elected, but you shouldn't start agreeing with things that your opponent has been saying all along.
[00:19:44] Jesse Fries:
But act actually, that's exactly what Bill Clinton did. That's how Bill Clinton got elected. He he would That is true. Yeah. He he went completely moderate. He was a moderate democrat. He was not highly progressive or highly liberal. He was a moderate democrat. And him and actually the republicans actually got a lot through, during the other stint together. So yeah. He had a few scandals here or there, of course.
[00:20:10] Jamon Fries:
But yeah. Then Who who isn't gonna have scandals. I mean Exactly. Exactly.
[00:20:15] Jesse Fries:
And then with all this Harris, you know, so Harris has been doing good. To me, that it's a good political move because, you know, really, what is she? Nobody actually knows what she is. Yep. You you know, they say one thing and everything like that, but is she just doing it to gain power? Because that's usually what these people want. It's just power. And so they will say and do anything. They'll pick a side and go with it. So I really don't know what she is. As a prosecutor, she was very heavy against crime and everything like that, more conservative in that way.
Now she says that was bad policy or whatever. But, yeah, it was like so I really don't know what she is because she's also, daughter of immigrants. So it's like one's from one was Jamaican and one is Indian. Yep. Generally, a lot of, immigrants are more conservative in nature. You know? They're not They usually are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my wife, she she she she's more conservative in nature. You know? So it's kinda
[00:21:17] Jamon Fries:
It may have something to do with the lot of the oh, you know, a lot of them are fleeing from you know, not not all not all immigrants are fleeing, but a lot there are quite a few immigrants that are fleeing situations bad back at home, and they they come here for the conservative values of the United States. You know, the the US the the media isn't going to, you know, the the the well, not really the media, but the police aren't going to arrest you because of your political leanings and stuff like that. Right. Exactly.
[00:21:53] Jesse Fries:
The the freedom. Yeah. That's
[00:21:56] Jamon Fries:
slowly changing, but
[00:21:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. We we we we'll have to see how that goes. We'll have to see where the country goes with that one. But, yeah, I I I find it funny that she kept moving back and forth. And then Trump tried to do the same thing. He like Did he really? Yeah. It was hilarious. It was, he was he he's been getting in all this trouble about abortion. Right? Uh-huh. And so because he kept saying, no, we'll just stop it and everything like that. He he switched and he goes, oh, no. You know, you you can get a we'll make sure that you can get abortions up until a certain time, like 6 weeks or 6 months. I I can't remember exactly what the time frame was. He did. Really? He did. He did. And then but it didn't work out so well for him because Yeah. It wouldn't. Because the conservatives
[00:22:45] Jamon Fries:
just base is is basically anti abortion.
[00:22:49] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. And so, yeah, he's had a really hard time of he he's really been trying to he and then in Florida, there was a, ballot initiative to legalize drugs or something like that of some sort. Yeah. And he actually said that he was for that bill to to legalize drugs. And, of course, everybody went against them. So it's like both of them are trying to come to the center, but it's only working for one of them.
[00:23:23] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It definitely won't work it won't work for Trump. Trump has always been an extremely right wing as far as policies go that I've seen. That's the thing. Oh, no. His supporters are. He is anything but. Yeah. Exactly. Supporters are all very right wing. I mean, up until he ran for president, the first time, he was a registered democrat in almost almost his entire life. I mean No. Exactly. Exactly. You know? So I mean which which is one of the things that I really like about him is that he sees what could be good for the country and doesn't necessarily put his own political leanings into that.
[00:24:06] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That that that's kinda how I see it too, but, of course, the liberals just attack him as Nazians and everything like that. But Yeah. Yeah. To me, I I think he's Hitler. He's the orange Hitler. Exactly. Except, apparently, he changes his makeup now, so he's not so orange anymore. You know? So that one That's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That was in the news. Or
[00:24:31] Jamon Fries:
or spray tan or whatever it was. I don't know what it was. News.
[00:24:35] Jesse Fries:
Of course, it did.
[00:24:37] Jamon Fries:
I just find that hilarious. Right? There's so much going on in this world. Why does it matter what color his skin is because of his prey on tan?
[00:24:49] Jesse Fries:
Because orange man bad. Plain simple. That that's what it is. That's what it is. And, yeah. Yeah.
[00:24:58] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:24:59] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yeah.
[00:25:03] Jamon Fries:
That that so I'm gonna get off politics here for a little bit and go into my other love, which is, technology.
[00:25:11] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:25:13] Jamon Fries:
What do you think of current of what they of this current so called virtual reality stuff? Oh, virtual reality? Virtual reality. Do you consider it virtual reality?
[00:25:25] Jesse Fries:
Well, it it it it could be a precursor to it, but not really because you don't get all your senses, into it. It's just a screen on your head.
[00:25:40] Jamon Fries:
It's just It's it's just a it's just 2 smiles 2 tiny little computer screens
[00:25:45] Jesse Fries:
that are very close to your eyes. That's all it is. Yeah. I I've played with it a bit, but it's not it's not
[00:25:53] Jamon Fries:
yeah. I'm not impressed really by it. It seems stupid Yeah. Personally. But Well, I I just I just don't think that it could that it should actually be qualified to be classified as virtual reality. I mean, virtual reality should be something where at least some of your senses or something like that are tied into the game, where you can feel what's going on. And I know that they have suits and stuff that you can buy for massive amounts of money. They'll, like, vibrate and put pressure on certain parts to your body when something happens and stuff like that. Uh-huh. But I'm much more interested in actual virtual reality.
And so I I did a little bit of dye digging the other day, and we're actually a little bit closer than I thought we would be. Oh, yeah. So I I knew that, we had the the brain computer interface with, Elon Musk's Neuralink Uh-huh. You know, where where you can interact with a computer with that. Yep. Supposedly.
[00:26:57] Jesse Fries:
I don't know.
[00:26:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. According to all the news articles that I've seen, we we did they can. Good. I I know that currently, I was kind of impressed by this, but there is a person I it didn't really say where he was from or who was doing the research that I saw, but I I did see others on more than one more than one place. There's a man that was paralyzed from the neck down. He had very slight ability to move his arms, but nothing else. Mhmm. That because of implants in the brain and a bypass of his spinal cord, he's now walking again. He can use his body just fine.
Nice. You know, he he still uses crutches and stuff because well, I mean, he's been paralyzed for a very long time, so he doesn't have very good muscle strength or anything like that. But Mhmm. I mean, just just the fact that that we can that we've basically gone from from nothing to be able to to bypass the spinal cord injury by routing movement through the by routing the commands of the brain. I I think that's insanely awesome.
[00:28:14] Jesse Fries:
It is. That is really cool.
[00:28:17] Jamon Fries:
MIT recently has been doing a study on helping blind people see. Uh-huh. They we've all we've always know they're they're for quite a while now, for at least the last 10, 15 years, there have been, fake retinas that that MIT invented that that you could put into the eye. Yep. But it would never it would never do anything if for damage to the actual optic nerve or beyond. Mhmm. But now they've they've invented this this thing with it's again, it's implants where they, they can put a probe on onto the brain. Right now, it has it has 100 little spikes on it that each send signals. So a but a blunt but with that, the blind person can start seeing shapes and stuff like that. The the lady who tested it was actually able to play a video game. Oh, that's cool.
She could she could see the outline of doors and of of furniture and stuff like that, so she was able to walk around all that and avoid everything. And because it puts out so little electrical output, they think that they could put up to 6 to 8 of them on the human brain, which would, you know, you're multiplying things, so it goes from a 10 from a 100 pixel up to, like, a 700 or 800 pixel picture basically is is what it'll show is what the person will see. Mhmm. So, I mean, so we we're it's very far from anything that virtual reality would actually need. Right. But we're what we're where our understanding is the optic area of the brain enough to be able to to do stuff like that. They they can they can see general shapes and things like that. So that's pretty cool.
[00:30:09] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That is really cool. That is really cool. Yeah. There are
[00:30:15] Jamon Fries:
recently now for people that are deaf Uh-huh. There have the they have come up with a way to, put an implant into the brain stem Mhmm. That they can hook up to a speaker outside of that's outside of the skull and that person can hear through that. So you don't so there there were a lot of people that couldn't that cochlear implants wouldn't work for them because the, because the nerve from the ear to the brain was had a disconnect. Uh-huh. And so the cochlear implant, which is just in the ear, wouldn't have wouldn't have affected that at all. But now they're starting to be able to bypass that with a direct link into the brain as well. Oh, that's cool. That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. They are slowly also working on the ability to talk.
This is this was designed for people that are, that have had, like, a stroke and have problems talking and stuff. Oh, okay. Okay. But they with an interface on the brain, it also right now is connected to the, muscle structure of everything involved that involves speech, you know, the Right. The larynx, the jaw, the tongue, the everything. Mhmm. But they they can now they through a computer, they can now actually hold conversations in a much more real time than they could before. Because before it would take like 30 minutes for a 5 second conversation almost because they had to, like, move a cursor around on a screen to to hit a word or a letter. They had to type stuff out. So it's it's a lot faster now. So put all of that together.
In virtual reality, we this is all with implants, unfortunately, which would probably never get approved by any medical for any medical reason, to be done for a game or anything like that. Right. But we have the ability to for speech to be controlled by the brain, for sound, for for movement, for vision, and we have the interface with the brain. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. If we could make all of that wireless and, you know, of course, we have to we have to advance the technology. But if we could make it all wireless, so you just have to put a helmet on Right. Right. Right. Right. Virtual reality.
[00:32:38] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Wow. That was a good Like I said, yeah. Yeah. One that had a lot that went into it. Yeah. Yeah. No. That that that that makes a lot of sense, actually. Yeah. You could you take all those things and for a regular person, non disabled of any sort, if you could figure out that, you could actually input all the data into somebody, and it would actually be virtual. It'd be like the demolition man sex that they had. Yeah. If you remember that, they put on a helmet and they'd be they went swap any yeah.
[00:33:18] Jamon Fries:
No. That's interesting. That. Yeah. That's been a long time. I've never even heard about that movie.
[00:33:23] Jesse Fries:
Really? It's actually been coming up a lot lately. They've been, talking about it, how, basically, everything that happened there is basically happening now. You know? It's like, basically, men have become wusses, and then all the other ones are left out, like, have to live in the sewers, the ones that eat the meat and everything. Like, like, they're really extrapolating, Republicans versus Democrats with it right now. It's kind of funny.
[00:33:52] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. That's amazing.
[00:33:55] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. Well, let's see. On another technology point, apparently, they're starting to figure out 6 g, for, wireless communications. Are they really? Yeah. Yeah. They've been doing some studies and everything like that. They've been able to get the data rate to error free up to 64 gigs a second.
[00:34:17] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:34:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So That's why Exactly. Exactly. And then if you do employ even more complex modulation, you can get up to a 190 gigabytes per second. So Dang. Yeah. Yeah. My thing is though, is is it really needed? You know, you know, it's like, in all honesty, so 5 g, it's okay. But so is 4 g. 4 g, I could stream movies. I didn't have a problem with it. You know, I really have it. Yeah. From my end, I'm sure there's some technical, like, for big companies and everything like that. This can be used to transfer when you need to and everything like that, maybe for cars or whatnot. But for a basic user, it's kinda like, okay. Who cares?
[00:35:06] Jamon Fries:
You know, it's like Well, I mean, with with with that technology, there there are a few things that it would be easier to do without being hardwired into the Internet. Right. For example, you know, like you said, cars, autopilots and stuff like that, the auto autonomous driving would be would probably work a little bit better.
[00:35:27] Jesse Fries:
May but, see, see, that's the thing is connection. But it really doesn't use any data, the the these autonomous cars right now because the cars aren't talking to each other. Maybe if they get to a point where the the cars can talk to each other, but at this point, it's it's like my wife, she has a she has a, what is it? G, Chevy Traverse. Right? And it's fully loaded, and it has a supercruise in it. So it just drives itself on many, many roads. It's kinda crazy how many roads it can do right now. Okay. But it is still in its infancy. You know, it's still just using the it's still just using the lane markers. That's basically all it does. It's not I don't think it's maybe it's talking to somebody else, but it really the it's just using the lane markers. And even then, it's kinda stupid sometimes, you know. You really have to you really actually have to pay attention as you're letting it drive, you know. It's, Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, well, it's it's a new technology. I mean, you know, that's that's some that there's always that that phase where
[00:36:38] Jamon Fries:
the technology is almost good enough that people think that they don't have to pay attention to it anymore. Yep. Yep.
[00:36:45] Jesse Fries:
But it's not there yet. So if you have no attention to it, something bad can real something really bad can happen. Yeah. It is kind of fun, though. It'll change lanes and everything like that, all by itself. That's cool. That's cool. On some I'm sure I'm
[00:37:00] Jamon Fries:
I'm sure it probably does have some kind of a of an inner in intricate, interface with with an outside source. At least that would hope for a map. Well,
[00:37:13] Jesse Fries:
they say so, but I don't see the evidence in what it can do. You you know what I mean? It's it's like, Yeah. They're they're saying, like, in future iterations, it will be able to, like, change roads. So go from, like, I don't know, 94 to 49 4 all by itself, you know, and things like that. And you can put it in the directions and then it'll go. But it can't do that now. All it from my point of view, all it's doing it will it's doing adaptive cruise, so it can keep with traffic. Right? Right. So it'll slow down, it'll break, it'll stop and then go again when traffic keeps going and everything like that. But Okay. So that's adaptive cruise. I have it in my car. I love it. You can't live without it. Yeah. That's I've heard that that's fairly common in a lot of new cars. It is. It's very common and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. You can really more or less relax as you're driving. It takes less of your brain.
But beyond that, all it is doing is keeping to the lanes, which technically my car can do as well. It just doesn't do it as good, and mine doesn't have Super Cruise. So I don't know. Okay. There's probably more computing in it so that it's not so jerky, because mine will just stick within the lane. So it'll kind of like move throughout the lane until it sees the line and they'll move back. The Super Cruise will actually keep it in the same spot in the lane, so you're not moving back and forth. You're not like a drunk driver or anything like that with Super Cruise. With my car, I just let it go. It'll be like a drunk driver within the lane.
[00:38:53] Jamon Fries:
There's still a lot of cops chasing you all over the place. Exactly.
[00:38:56] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. But yeah. Beyond that, it's I I I'm sure there's more going on in the background. But from what I can just see, it it just seems it's doing lanes, and that's about it, an adaptive cruise. You know? So it has sensors and everything like that, but the the the it's I'm waiting for the cars to be able to talk so that they can really go fast.
[00:39:22] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. When when once the cars can start communicating with each other. Yep. Then it you know, not only will you be able to go really fast, but you won't have that slow person sitting there doing nothing.
[00:39:38] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
[00:39:41] Jamon Fries:
Oh, I think I think that's what I that yeah.
[00:39:44] Jesse Fries:
No. I was just gonna say, one of the downsides to Super Cruise also is, you you know, the top speed. You know? Come on. It needs to be faster than 85. I'm just saying. You know?
[00:39:59] Jamon Fries:
I agree with that. I think there's times you need to get away from something.
[00:40:04] Jesse Fries:
Well well well, no. I'm just saying the top speed in Texas, which is has the there's this middle road just south of us. It's speed limit is 85. So I wanna be able to say No worries. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It's the highest in the United States. It is like one of the highest in the world.
[00:40:25] Jamon Fries:
Except for, like, the Autobahn where there's no speed limit or whatnot. So yeah. Yeah. But but yeah. As an actual sense I think there's also places up in Montana. I mean, now this was a long time ago, so it could have changed by now. Yeah. But when I was driving over the road back in early 2000, if I remember correctly, there were a couple places on the interstate up in Montana where there was no speed limit.
[00:40:45] Jesse Fries:
There was that. I
[00:40:47] Jamon Fries:
I I thought that they had changed it, but I really don't know on that. They might have. Again, it's been a long time since I've been up there. You know, it's been almost 20 years since then. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. It's
[00:40:59] Jesse Fries:
but yeah. 85. Come on. Yeah. But but no. It's fun just letting the car drive at 85 miles an hour by itself. It's kinda Oh, I can only imagine. It's a bit freaky, but you get used to it. You know? It's just like it's just like adaptive cruise. Adaptive cruise took a lot to get used to, especially, like, with braking and everything like that. Hoo doggy, that can be scary. Even to this day, sometimes I don't trust it.
[00:41:24] Jamon Fries:
Well, I I you know, that that's one of the problems that I personally would have with that kind of vehicle is I like being in control of my vehicle.
[00:41:32] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Right. And so do I. But it's like
[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:
What control? You know, it's like I can't react I can't react as fast as a computer can. No. Exactly. There's a lot of things that I can't do as well as a computer can. So you know?
[00:41:47] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Do you have anything anything else tech related? No. Not tech related, actually. No. Okay. I I do. I do. So Okay. Apparently, somebody's actually been busted. Who is it? It was a ad place. Cox Media Group, claims that it's active listening software uses AI to collect and analyze real time intent data by listening to what you say through your phone, laptop, or home assistant microphone. So basically, all those people that say my phone is listening to me, it was listening to you.
[00:42:32] Jamon Fries:
I mean, that that's not really new news. It it may be news for new new for Cox, but, I mean, isn't that No. No. No. No. Siri and stuff like that have been accused of doing too in the past? Right. But nobody has
[00:42:44] Jesse Fries:
actually proven it, and nobody's actually seen a company say we do this. There's always been Oh, yeah. It's always been like an urban legend, you know, that that that's always what it's been. But this this this media group has it says that it's actually doing admitted it. Wow. Exactly. Yeah. It's exactly big. It was in their slide deck for selling their services to, like, Facebook and Google and everything like that. Okay. Okay. Some of the big boys I think Google says, we've never used them, we'll never use them. So I don't know the but but, yeah, they're they're they're all doing that. Everybody's like, I think Facebook fired them, after this came out, even though they were taking advantage of it.
But yeah. That's, I thought that was hilarious.
[00:43:32] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That really is. Yeah. You know, I've I've always I I I don't have anything like that in my house. I've I've thought about getting, like, Roku and stuff like that. But Uh-huh. Any anything that that has a voice command where you just have to say something to activate its supposedly activate its listening ability. But, I mean, it's already listening, so they can hear that voice command. So I'm not really sure why they say it's activating its listening capability. But, anyways Yep. Anything like that, even even if the company itself isn't using it in that way, that signal is is I mean, I'm I'm assuming that that that signal for a hacker would be very easy to hack into.
[00:44:18] Jesse Fries:
It's probably encrypted, I would say. Because most He'd hope so, but I mean, it's Pretty much everything on the phone is encrypted. Pretty much everything is encrypted. It's basically default now is just to encrypt everything before it's sent and everything like that. But what what I think this is saying is that it's even using your phone it's like it's it's like in a app, that it has, like, in the Facebook app or whatever app, maybe your banking app that it has a deal with. Maybe it turns on the microphone that you just don't realize it, and then it just extracts. You know, with the EULA's, you they could be doing they do anything to you. So Absolutely.
[00:44:56] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I'm not sure if it's That is one of the downsides of advanced technology is you never know who's listening no matter what you're do no matter where you are.
[00:45:06] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly.
[00:45:09] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's insane.
[00:45:11] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is.
[00:45:14] Jamon Fries:
Anything else? What you got? Well, the the last one that I have, you know, last week, I'd I was talking about diet and stuff like that. Uh-huh. I happened to, pull up to be yeah. I was I was just looking for recipes. I've I've, I've been wanting to I've been missing fish. I'd I'd really wanna eat fish. Uh-huh. But I don't I don't wanna do, like, the store bought, you know, throw it in the oven type of with the with, you know, like the the fast fish that you can just toss in the oven and then you get this fish stick or whatever. I I want actual fish. So I was looking up recipes, and I came across something that just I I shouldn't be surprised by it, but I've I I'm more amused by it, I think.
There were about 1010 or 12 different websites that were claiming that people that were on the Mediterranean diet were less affected by COVID than basically anybody else.
[00:46:24] Jesse Fries:
How does that make sense? Italy. Just saying.
[00:46:29] Jamon Fries:
I I mean, you know, but but they're they're they're saying that the Mediterranean diet is what is like a it it's not a cure all, of course. You can still catch COVID, but this is the red the chances are reduced, and you can still die from COVID, but the chances are reduced. Uh-huh. The the usual you the supposedly they say that usually it mean it will be a less severe COVID that you get. But the problem with that that I see is I've also seen a lot of reports talking about how the group of people that are that were most affected by COVID and where it was the severest in Mhmm. Amongst them and they had the most deaths Uh-huh. Was people with with prediabetes, type 1 diabetes, and type 2 diabetes.
Okay. Well, the Mediterranean diet, if done properly, helps control blood sugar.
[00:47:37] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:47:37] Jamon Fries:
But it's not the only one. So, yes, there are less people that are diabetic that are on the Mediterranean diet, but that's also the same for the keto diet and all these other diets that are, you know, that are so that are proposed to to help reduce the to reduce diabetes and stuff like that. But they're specifically came claiming that it's the Mediterranean diet because of the the vitamins and stuff that you get that help reduce inflammation.
[00:48:06] Jesse Fries:
Okay. So it's it's it's it's
[00:48:09] Jamon Fries:
very surprised yeah. I I just found it very surprising that that groups were now coming out even, you know, even people that are supposedly, you know, places that you can trust, they're coming out and saying, this specific diet Uh-huh. Will help you will help you prevent COVID from will help prevent dying from COVID.
[00:48:31] Jesse Fries:
But but don't they remember one of the first hot spots of the COVID? Don't they remember that wasn't that in the Mediterranean? Yeah. Yeah. It's Italy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It doesn't make sense. Well, just because of that. I'm sorry. You know, they're on the Mediterranean, so everything they eat Yes.
[00:48:57] Jamon Fries:
Is a medicine. Mediterranean diet. Exactly.
[00:49:00] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[00:49:02] Jamon Fries:
So But he's for but from my research on the Mediterranean diet, there's actually, like, 3 or 4 different beliefs on the Mediterranean diet. There's the Greek Mediterranean diet. There's the Italian Mediterranean diet, and then there's other places and stuff like that. Well, the Greek Mediterranean diet has a lot less grains in it. Right. Right. There's not so much muscle there. Eat nearly as much grains. Yeah. Yep. So and, you know, so grains being the carbohydrates turns into sugar in the body, turns into glu you know, glucose, which is how the the high glucose levels determine diabetes. So, you know, I it's I was I was watching this one video that was saying that the Mediterranean diet and and, the keto diet both impact the, blood sugar levels the same.
Okay. Pretty much, there there's no no major difference.
[00:49:59] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:50:01] Jamon Fries:
They forgot to add one little caveat to that report that I saw much later buried deep into everything
[00:50:08] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:50:09] Jamon Fries:
Was that they were using people that were diabetic that were currently on medication for diabetes
[00:50:15] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:50:17] Jamon Fries:
For the people on Zim for the big Uh-huh. Sorry. Well, no. Not not on Zim because Zim will help with diabetes. Metformin is what they were on. Okay. Okay. So the, the people on keto that were were adapt that were switched over to the keto diet Uh-huh. Were completely taken off of Metformin. But the people on the Mediterranean diet only had their metformin cut in half. And they claimed that it was that there was no difference in results. So I mean, can you be more dis dishonest in a scientific study?
[00:50:55] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That's kinda messed up, yo. That's, I yep. Nope. Not buying it. That's,
[00:51:04] Jamon Fries:
yeah. No. Yeah. Me either.
[00:51:07] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's a okay.
[00:51:12] Jamon Fries:
That's why all those things It it and supposedly, it was it was a lot of the other stuff I can agree with because what they did is they had people on the Mediterranean and then they'd switch to the keto where other people were on keto and then they'd switch to Mediterranean. And then they'd both switch to basically an uncontrolled diet.
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
Correct.
[00:51:32] Jamon Fries:
And so, you know but just the entry level from just the entry level being flawed from the from the, at with the metformin amounts, to me, that throws the entire study off. Right. Right. Because you you can't you can't trust any of the data for the people that were originally on the Mediterranean diet because they were still taking metformin while the people on the on keto were not. So that that entire group is to me, should just be thrown out.
[00:52:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Who who who paid for this, study?
[00:52:12] Jamon Fries:
It didn't say.
[00:52:13] Jesse Fries:
It didn't say. Did you go to the study itself?
[00:52:17] Jamon Fries:
No. I I couldn't find the study itself. I don't really know how to research into stuff like that. I can old I only I can only find the reports on it. I've never really been able even if I could find the studies, there's so much jargon and stuff in there. I've I can never understand half of what I read in those anyways.
[00:52:36] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Well well, hit me up if you ever wanna know because I'm pretty good at researching that stuff out. So it's Okay. Okay. Yeah. I will do that. Yeah. I I I can read studies. I I know what to look for and everything like that. That that's why I have a master's, you know. Nothing else. I got that out of it, you know. Beyond that, I don't know. But, yeah, I I know how to read a study at least out of that. So it's, Yep.
[00:53:00] Jamon Fries:
Yep. That's always a good thing to know.
[00:53:02] Jesse Fries:
I think so. I think so. Yeah.
[00:53:05] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I I wish that they would just, you know, say what the result was. I don't need to see all of I mean, yes. Knowing all the different more methods of testing is important to see if if it's actually if you believe it's valid or not. But come on. At least give me a concise, this is what it is. Exactly. That's what I need to see.
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. That is, important stuff.
[00:53:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It is.
[00:53:35] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Do I have anything else? Oh, Ford Motor Company is ending their DEI, their diversity equity, whatever, in their company.
[00:53:46] Jamon Fries:
So Are they really?
[00:53:48] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They're getting rid of that. Apparently, they've seen the writing on the wall with Harley Davidson. And,
[00:53:55] Jamon Fries:
yeah, there's a few Some others. Instead of saying to doing that. Yeah. Well, Harley Davidson was, boycotted there for a bit.
[00:54:02] Jesse Fries:
So Sturgis was not a happy time for Harley Davidson this year. It was pretty brutal, actually. Oh, was it really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Their stand was completely empty. Nobody was going there. It's like Harley Davidson. It's like, come on, dude. So you you're Harley Davidson. Do you know who your market is? Old white guys. You know?
[00:54:22] Jamon Fries:
Yes. Yes. So just
[00:54:26] Jesse Fries:
maybe don't do the DEI stuff. Old white guys don't really go for it. Not just
[00:54:31] Jamon Fries:
not just old white guys, but old old white guys with decent money.
[00:54:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, well, with money, yes. Well, most old people have money. You know, that's how it works. The older you get, the more money you have. It's 10 it's generally how it works out. Not not always the only true. You still have time. You're alive, Jamen. You know, you never know. You know, it's and and, you know, it's like next year you might have more money than this year. You know, it wouldn't take much. But you know, it is true. That is true.
[00:55:00] Jamon Fries:
It would take very little, but it's true. Exactly.
[00:55:03] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Sadly, as more money comes in, my rent keeps going up too. So, you know Well, they tie that in. I'm sure they're looking at what the solar I know they do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:55:15] Jamon Fries:
they go, oh. Yeah. And it's kind of it's kind of funny. Every I I I see the I see the statement how much money I'm gonna get coming in, and I'm like, yes. That that is awesome. I'll have a little bit more money than I can do stuff with. And then And then I get to notice that my rent is going up by, like, $5 less than the increase I get it. Exactly.
[00:55:36] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Just wait. What? Damn it. No. Well well, now what Trump and probably Harris too, they've been talking about the the not taxing Social Security benefits. Yeah. And so what would happen? They would just your rent would just go up by that much. Anything.
[00:55:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, I know, but It wouldn't impact anything. I understand that, but they it might still. You never know. Yeah. Yeah. It might. Yeah. No. Because because you that's that's one thing I don't I find funny because you don't actually and and and and until you hit a certain income level outside of disability or social security, you don't actually pay taxes on disability or or social security.
[00:56:26] Jesse Fries:
Mhmm. Yep.
[00:56:28] Jamon Fries:
So the only time you start paying taxes is if you make more money. So that that will not help the people that don't make extra income. It'll only help the people that do. So Oh, yeah. So It's a good thing, but at the same time, it it affects
[00:56:44] Jesse Fries:
a good portion of the country in no way, shape, or form at all. So, basically, it's just helping the rich again is what you're telling me? Yes. Yes. So so so it's helping, like, mom and dad. People that make yes. Yes. Mom and dad make enough money. They're probably paying taxes on social media. Their investments in, the job and everything like that. So and then but they also get Social Security because they're of the age. And so Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's only helping them. So okay.
[00:57:10] Jamon Fries:
So yeah. I think I think that's that's another thing that I don't like. That's another thing I don't really like. So I don't like the fact that you have that you're mandate mandated that you have to start taking Social Security at a certain age. If you're making enough money outside of it, why do you need to take those payments?
[00:57:32] Jesse Fries:
Well, it it's because you paid into it. And so basically, if you don't if they don't have that, then people will be going, well, that's just a tax. And right now they can sell it that it's not just a tax. It's actually investing in your future. Because once you do that, then then the the next step would be, well, you make too much money. You can't have your Social Security. Yeah. Then it would definitely be a tax. Exactly. Exactly. And that's probably how it would end up being, You know? So it's Yeah. Yep.
[00:58:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I understand where you're coming from, but I see it. I've always been confused. You know? Why would Donald Trump need to collect Social Security?
[00:58:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. They don't. He doesn't. Even our parents don't probably. They're they're doing fine without. But, you know, it's just extra gravy on top and, you know, may maybe the it'll just be put into to the estate and then we all have to deal with it. You know? It's just that sort of thing. So
[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. It's I I've just you know, to me, it's just always never really made sense that I understand. I understand. It's the mandatory part that I'm that confuses me. You know? Because a lot of a lot of these people, you know, as soon as you go on Social Security, you're also on Medicare. Mhmm. Which means that anybody that had those really nice, really expensive medical net health insurance
[00:59:03] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:59:05] Jamon Fries:
They can't have that anymore.
[00:59:07] Jesse Fries:
No. Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. But once you're certain age, you have to do Medicaid.
[00:59:11] Jamon Fries:
Medicare. Yeah. You you have to be on Medicare, and the most you can do is get this Medicare supplements, but that's still not gonna be the really premium health insurance plans that these richer people use would have had.
[00:59:25] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:59:26] Jamon Fries:
But but then you just have to pay out of pocket for it. So, you know, it's just Well, yeah. Yeah. You have to pay out of pocket for it. But the the thing that the thing that I don't understand is if they're trying to make it so that Social Security will last longer and so that Medicare is not as expensive because I've I heard some reports that the Medicare budget is even higher than the Department of Defense budget right now. Holy hell. Okay. Yeah.
[00:59:54] Jesse Fries:
That's crazy.
[00:59:56] Jamon Fries:
So can you imagine how much how much money you could save if we didn't force everybody onto Medicare as soon as they as soon as they got to retirement age and let them keep the plans that they were currently on? If you weren't on a good plan, absolutely, Medicare can come in and help you. But if you were on a sweet deal if you had if you had a sweet deal in the past, why not let those people stay on that sweet deal and not be a burden on the government through Medicare?
[01:00:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. I can see that.
[01:00:27] Jamon Fries:
There's so much stuff that just doesn't make sense.
[01:00:32] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. I'm trying to find the defense budget for the. Okay. So I'm trying to do apples to apples here.
[01:00:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, let's see the defense budget for heard in a couple of different places. Right. The defense budget,
[01:00:49] Jesse Fries:
for 2024, funding year 2024, is 8 849,800,000,000. Oh, that's for fiscal year 2025. And then Medicare budget for 2023, so more than likely the it's a year ago, so it probably would have been less for the military a little bit. But for Medicare, it was 848,200,000,000. So yeah. Yeah. It it it's it's probably a bit more. Just just a little bit. But, but, you know something wee bit. Just a wee bit. But, you know something, you know, I I'm kinda happy about that. You know? It's like Oh, yeah. I don't think our military needs that much. So I think they should spend more on us than the military. On the on people. Yes. I I do agree with that. But I just I I, you know, just just the if if they made it so that
[01:01:52] Jamon Fries:
anything that we can do to reduce to reduce the budget will also help reduce the debt. Right. Hopefully, as long as they don't find something else to spend the money on. Uh-huh. But, I mean so why not even if you don't do massive changes, at least, you know, little ones, let let rich people pay for their own insurance if they want to. Mhmm. You know, they can they should be able to opt in to Medicare. But they should also have the option of not going into Medicare. I think one of the reasons that they one of the one of the benefits of to the government of them not doing that is it gives them more, negotiation Yeah. Of our power. And the prices of of prep everything. So, you know, that that may be that might play some part in that. They they can guarantee that there's gonna be the x number of people that will be using Medicare, so they'll get much better deals on everything.
[01:02:53] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Oh, I found the number for probably plays a small part. I found the number for, funding year 2023 for defense budget. It was, 8 times it was 813,300,000,000. Okay. Okay. And so Medicare was, like, 30,000,000,000 more Yeah. For that same year. So yeah. Yep.
[01:03:15] Jamon Fries:
I I just you know, I I always knew that we spent a lot on the military. I had no idea that Medicare's budget was even higher than the med military. So that that was that was kind of a, eye opener for me. Well well well, taking care of those baby boomers, that's an expensive,
[01:03:33] Jesse Fries:
That was a big generation. They're all old now. Every last one of them is old. So it's, it's like I'm tail end of x and, you you know, I am already
[01:03:44] Jamon Fries:
mid 50 mid forties. So it's a Us gen us gen x generation, we're gonna we're we're getting up there too now.
[01:03:53] Jesse Fries:
We are. We are. We are. I'll get 50 next year.
[01:03:56] Jamon Fries:
It I'm not supposed to be that old. I don't feel that old. Darn it.
[01:04:01] Jesse Fries:
Tell me about it. You you know, it's I I can't believe all 4 of us have lasted this long, you know. Yeah. It's a No. Okay. We should start wrapping this up. Let's take care of some business here. So we're not live streaming this, right now because I can't figure out how to connect to the host. I'm trying to figure that out. I was testing yesterday and everything like that, and it just wouldn't connect to the host. It was really annoying. Oh, okay. So I put everything in correctly. Yeah. I put everything in correctly, and then it just doesn't work. So, but, I'm working on it. I'm also working on a different way to do it. Maybe do it through YouTube or something like that.
Livestream through that. I signed up to be able to livestream. And apparently, YouTube apparently, they have a it's like with handguns. They have a waiting time limit, a cooldown period. It's like 24 hours. Yeah. You have to wait 24 hours before you get livestream for some godass reason. After all, stream for some god ass reason.
[01:05:06] Jamon Fries:
After all, the consequences of live stream are just as bad as the consequence of buying a gun for the wrong reason.
[01:05:13] Jesse Fries:
Right? Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, Have to wait 24 hours. So so that'll be up, like, in, 5 hours. I'll be able to live stream if I want to. But yeah, so hopefully next time, we will be streaming this live. I would really love to do that.
[01:05:37] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I think that was I'd be happy to do that too. Yep. Yep. And, as always, we need your money here.
[01:05:44] Jesse Fries:
We are a value for value, podcast. So that means whatever you can give us, whatever you feel, this podcast gave you, please give that back to us in monetary or even ideas for, topics or anything like that. You can shoot me an email. It's jesse atmindlessc.com. Jayme, what's your email so that they can email you, with topics? Do you have a good one? Right. Maybe not? I
[01:06:10] Jamon Fries:
I'll set one up for next for the next stream. I don't have one that doesn't get a whole lot of junk email right now. So I'd probably miss half of it. I mean, half of anything sent to me. We we will get him set up with that,
[01:06:24] Jesse Fries:
to be determined. But or you can email me and then I can, send that on to him if you'd wanna send Jamon some stuff. But yeah. Just send us what you think this is worth to you. And, I think what we should do is, have, like, producers, for the show. So you guys send in, and you can be a producer for the show, which will be actually good on IMDB and everything like that. It is a real credit. You are actually producing this podcast if you send us, some money. So what it will be, the way I'm thinking it is that, whoever is the top who sends us the most money, they will be the executive producer for the show. And then after that, they'll just be, regular producers. And you can send in a note for us to read or anything like that. However you wanna do that, that is cool. And just send us what you think, this can what this offered you.
Doing these things is not free, so sending us in money, would be great and would really help us out so we can keep this going.
[01:07:24] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That would definitely be awesome. Okay. Yeah. I mean, hopefully, we provide enough value to you guys to, to actually think that we're worth something. So
[01:07:35] Jesse Fries:
Exactly. Exactly. So, thank you for listening, to The Mindless Meanderings. I am Jesse Fries.
[01:07:43] Jamon Fries:
And I am Jabin Fries.
[01:07:45] Jesse Fries:
And, you have a great evening, morning, or whatever time of the day it is for you right now.
Introduction and Hosts
Discussion on Media Bias and Drudge Report
Fact-Checking and Media Trust Issues
DOJ and International Legal Actions
Espionage and Political Scandals
Presidential Candidates and Policy Shifts
Virtual Reality and Technological Advances
6G Technology and Autonomous Vehicles
Privacy Concerns and Active Listening Software
Diet, Health, and COVID-19
Ford Motor Company and DEI Policies
Social Security and Medicare Budget Discussion
Podcast Business and Listener Contributions
