From US politics to British Farmers...Go Farming!!
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- Jamon Fries
https://mindlessmeanderings.com
(00:00:19) Introduction
(00:02:13) Politics: Ukraine and Russia Tensions
(00:12:08) International Incidents: Communication Cable Cut
(00:16:46) White House Correspondents and Media Dynamics
(00:20:02) Texas Legislation and Political Updates
(00:24:48) Whoopi Goldberg and Public Incidents
(00:29:35) FDA and Drug Regulations
(00:33:00) Ozempic and Health Concerns
(00:36:32) Election and Voting Controversies
(00:44:35) Media Influence and Public Perception
(00:50:56) Tech Innovations and Space Exploration
(00:57:07) Wokeness and Societal Changes
(01:13:43) UK Inheritance Tax and Farmers
[00:00:19]
Jesse Fries:
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, November 20th, and we are live with episode number 12 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas where fall has actually hit. It's kinda crazy. We're actually just in the sixties right now. Usually, it's been seventies or eighties.
[00:00:40] Jamon Fries:
Nice. Nice. And I'm Jamen Friese coming at you from eastern Kansas where it's been so windy, it's affecting people's Christmas plans.
[00:00:51] Jesse Fries:
How now? They
[00:00:54] Jamon Fries:
they're currently setting up the trees for the, for Christmas tree lightings and stuff like that. Uh-huh. And we've had 50 50 plus mile per hour winds, and it's blowing the trees all over the place.
[00:01:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus. Oops.
[00:01:08] Jamon Fries:
Yep. We're we got at least another couple more days of high winds coming on us too. So they've gotta they it it might actually cause a little bit of delay from what they're for their planning and stuff.
[00:01:21] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. And I see what next week, you could be in the forties? I was checking the weather. Yeah. Well, we've we've been,
[00:01:29] Jamon Fries:
we, yeah, we've been, we've had lows in the thirties forties lately. But, yeah, it's supposed it's supposed to start dropping down there again pretty good.
[00:01:41] Jesse Fries:
That's crazy. I saw, yeah, highs of forties next week. Yeah. So it'll be a cold Thanksgiving, it looks like.
[00:01:48] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:01:50] Jesse Fries:
Nothing wrong with that, though. No. Not too wrong. Nothing too wrong about that at all.
[00:01:55] Jamon Fries:
And forty is not. Forty is not that bad. At least it's not freezing or below freezing. It can be it can be worse. It could be worse. Yeah. We could get freezing rain on Thanksgiving. That would suck.
[00:02:06] Jesse Fries:
That would suck. That really would suck. It's, so what you got for us today, Jamon?
[00:02:13] Jamon Fries:
Well, I've got kind of a gambit. I've got politics. I've got I suppose you could call it entertainment news. I've got medical. I've got tech, politics, space flight,
[00:02:30] Jesse Fries:
all sorts of good stuff. Okay. Well, let's let's start with politics. Why not? That seems to be your thing. That's right.
[00:02:39] Jamon Fries:
So, the first the first thing I have on politics is, of course, everyone should know by now, Biden authorizing Ukraine to launch missiles into Russia.
[00:02:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Long range so called long range missiles. Yep. Yes. Yes.
[00:02:54] Jamon Fries:
To hit the to hit troops that are where basically where they're warehousing all their missiles and stuff like that. Mhmm. And so they've launched a few of those the few of those missiles in, which, Russia ain't too happy about.
[00:03:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That's an understatement. Yeah.
[00:03:15] Jamon Fries:
They're they're threatening the world war 3 now. They're they're threatening the nukes.
[00:03:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's what well, they've been threatening that for forever. You know? It's it's they they they've been threat it's gotten to the point where it's, like, going, dude, you gotta put up or shut up. Plain and simple. And I I I think they may be getting ready to put up.
[00:03:35] Jamon Fries:
And your thoughts on that? They're not act they're not I don't think they'll actually use a nuke the first time, but, the US embassy plus Spanish embassy, Italian embassies in Ukraine have all closed down.
[00:03:48] Jesse Fries:
Well, no. See, that would be a smart move on their part to to hit the embassy, so it would be, I think. Yeah.
[00:03:54] Jamon Fries:
And what what they're, according to a lot of the intel, they think that they're gonna use, some of their mobilized CBMs to hit it. Yeah. I I wouldn't doubt it because they really, Russia has been
[00:04:08] Jesse Fries:
they they haven't hit Ukraine with everything that they can hit them with. They haven't. Oh, yeah. No. Not even close. They could rebelize a place like Yeah. Kyiv could be completely rebelized. It would it would take, like,
[00:04:22] Jamon Fries:
10 minutes and all of Ukraine would be gone. Yeah. Basically. Basically. Yeah. And so because when they if when they launch your missiles, it's not gonna take that long to get there. Yeah. What what I think it will be is it's
[00:04:36] Jesse Fries:
Putin, he's a rational actor in my point of view. Yep. And with that in mind, he he won't actually attack a NATO country. I know he's warning to and everything like that, but I think, the embassies would actually make sense because it's attacking a NATO member, but not really at the same time. So I think that would be
[00:04:58] Jamon Fries:
It's it's it's technically attacking if if they were to attack to attack, say, the US embassy. It's technically attacking US soil, but it's not really.
[00:05:09] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's just like when we, hit the the Chinese embassy in, what was it, Kosovo or something like that Yeah. Back in the nineties. Oops.
[00:05:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. The embassies don't seem to do very well in wartime.
[00:05:25] Jesse Fries:
No. They really don't. The way I the way I think it is oh, with this also, I saw a report that, Biden also approved landmine use in Ukraine. Yes.
[00:05:37] Jamon Fries:
Anti personnel landmines. What what other landmines are there? Come on. Yeah. I get you. Well, the the there's landmines that are designed for vehicles. They Well, right. Have a In general They have a larger explosive, but they don't have nearly as much shrapnel.
[00:05:52] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. I know. I understand. But landmines are landmines in my book. You know? You get picky on that. But it's yeah. So that is also the escalation and everything like that. My point of view on this, the the like, from the two points of view, it's like, I think Biden's trying to strengthen Ukraine's, position in the negotiations that are about to come up when Trump's gets in there. And so that's why he's doing it. That's what I figure. From Putin's side, he knows that Trump is gonna come in and which will change how the United States looks on all this. So I do not think that he's gonna risk a World War 3. I know that's what's been in the news and everything like that. Biden's risking World War 3, yada yada yada.
But I really don't see that, especially for these attack missiles that they have. It's the range is what, a 130 kilometers. So they call those Yeah. They call those long range, but it's not really that long of range.
[00:06:58] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's a It's it's it's long range in so much as it gets out of it's out of line of sight. So it's not it it hits further than the it hits further than the current battlefield. Yes. That that's why it's long range.
[00:07:17] Jesse Fries:
But beyond that, it's I I I'd say medium range is probably what I'd put that at if that, you know, it's like Yeah. But then, you know, it's like, I don't know the qualifications for each, level of a it's like if it's within the continent but, like, 500 miles away, is that, like, a super long range missile? Yeah.
[00:07:38] Jamon Fries:
Or super duper And that's no. No. That that's kinda one of the one of the other thing I don't really understand is, so we provide all these weapons to Ukraine. Mhmm. But then we tell tell them they can't use them, and they have to get authorization from us even after we've given them the weapons? Yeah. This war is just, I mean, what the hell? It's a stupid war. If you're gonna give weapons to somebody, let them fucking use them. You know? Give them shit that you're gonna give them shit that they can use. Yeah. Yeah. Here's a gun, but you can't use it.
[00:08:13] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I'm with you on that one. It does. It's, the whole thing is stupid in my book. It's, yeah. But, yeah, that's how I think of it. I don't think, Putin will actually throw a nuke, and I don't think he'll actually attack a NATO country. Embassy, I could see that. I I think it's it's kinda like, with the whole Iran, Israel thing where they they were just trading back and forth, but they neither side actually went all out. You know? Oh, yeah. It was it was just Yeah. It was just a a little back and forth that go, ah, you hit me. So here's another You know, that's that's how most that's how most of the,
[00:08:57] Jamon Fries:
of the 3rd party wars happen that we get involved in. You know? Because everybody knows that if we actually use the full strength that that's available, there wouldn't be anything left there.
[00:09:10] Jesse Fries:
That's true. That's true. And and we which it but it also makes it hard to know. It's like we it's like who will win if we actually went to war Yeah. Like with China or Russia. If we actually went to war, and it was all out, bar, nukes, who would win? You you you know, it's like
[00:09:32] Jamon Fries:
It's a tough call. Right? I mean, China's technology is starting to catch up, and that's they they they're definitely in the with the advantage of personnel. Yep. Personnel. Yeah. They have they have they have a lot more people in our military than we have.
[00:09:50] Jesse Fries:
Yes. They do. But we also have a large pool to pull from if need be. So it's, with a draft or whatnot. So Right.
[00:09:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. But, you know, for us, it was always our technology kept us above and beyond everybody else. And, honestly, we haven't really had any major technology investments in our military in a while.
[00:10:15] Jesse Fries:
It's been a little while. Yeah. It's I I'm sure there's things we don't know about and everything like that. But Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know too much about that, really. I don't keep up on military tech very well. So Yeah. And sometimes old is good. Sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:10:37] Jamon Fries:
Supposedly, the China has a new missile that can travel at insane speeds that can Yeah. The hypersonic. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So that that would be something to worry to be worried about.
[00:10:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But we also have defenses against those. It's like they say supposedly Russia used some of their hypersonic, in Ukraine, and Ukraine was able to knock most of them out. So, you know Why the hell would they use supersonic in Ukraine? Just to try to get the missiles through, from what I understand. At least that was a story. Maybe they didn't know or anything like that. But I think it's possible. But, yeah, who knows? Yeah. So it's I think that technology it's like, if you know the speed, as long as it's not, like, a real close thing, but if it's, like, coming from, like, China, even if it's hypersonic, you have a few minutes to find it and shoot it. You know, you can just do the trajectory
[00:11:34] Jamon Fries:
with the different speed and As long as it's coming towards you, it's gonna be easy to knock it out of the air. Yeah. So I yeah.
[00:11:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, you you have to do it. We're we're not expert on that, but
[00:11:46] Jamon Fries:
Well, well, no. But, I mean, you you know, it's just a simple mathematical equation.
[00:11:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:11:53] Jamon Fries:
I I had to do those mathematical equations in just a freshman in high school. So Mhmm. You know, if you can do it as a freshman in high school, the military should be able to do it, you'd hope.
[00:12:04] Jesse Fries:
Hopefully. Hopefully. Let's see here. Do you have anything, like, else that's Russia related? I have a little bit of Russia related stuff. No. Nothing else that's Russia related. Okay. Well, here's one. So did you hear that, communication cable, fiber optic, was cut. This was let's see in Europe. It was like, where was it located exactly? It was it was in the Baltic Sea. 1 link in Finland and Germany, and and then the other one connecting Sweden and Lithuania. Well, nobody knows who did it or not, but, the Europeans, like always, they're blaming Russia. They just They just wanna blame Russia.
Just like they blamed Russia on that, that pipeline, that the Ukrainians blew up. You know? You know, it's like, I bet it was the Ukrainians again. Personal. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like why Russia is always like, oh, why would we do that? Why? Why? It makes no sense.
[00:13:10] Unknown:
You get a
[00:13:12] Jamon Fries:
and it's Well, I I I saw reports. I I don't know exactly where it was, but I saw reports talking about how, like, 3 different countries were closing in on a Chinese brigade or something like that that they believe cut some communication lines too.
[00:13:31] Jesse Fries:
Was that open in Europe?
[00:13:33] Jamon Fries:
I don't the the what I what I saw, it didn't say where it was. It just showed it, like, a a zoomed in picture. It didn't really it it was very I saw it kind of in Chinese the Chinese.
[00:13:48] Jesse Fries:
Got it. Well, it looks like there's actually well, when was this, 19th. So the story was yesterday. It, it said that there's no currently no evidence of sabotage even. But they were still Well, that obviously proves that the Russians did it. Yeah. But they were but European powers were warning of escalating hybrid attacks, you know, it's like it's like Yeah. You know? Hey. They
[00:14:14] Jamon Fries:
You know, the the I I'll never understand people, you know, with the with the, with the US Embassy closing. Mhmm. I saw so many art so many posts on Twitter. They're like, why is Russia escalating the war?
[00:14:33] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:14:34] Jamon Fries:
And I'm like, they're responding to missiles that we launched into that that were launched by Ukraine into Russia. How is that them escalating the war?
[00:14:46] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's how it always is. You you you know, it's like Yeah. And and we are never at fault, of course. No no matter what we do. Of course. It's always Of course. How Yeah. It's like, we'll poke you and poke you poke you and then get mad at you when you hit. Yeah. It's like my my son, he was, this one kid, him and he he has a he has a mortal enemy at school. He says, this kid punched him in the nose. And I go, well, punch him back. It's like
[00:15:22] Jamon Fries:
Oh, and that happened to me in high school too. You know? Mhmm. Kid just turned around, popped me in the nose, and started running running away.
[00:15:30] Jesse Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:15:34] Jamon Fries:
I'll I'll never understand why he did that. We both played football together. My my my we when we lifted weights for football, my max press was about 3:30. Uh-huh. His was about 210.
[00:15:51] Jesse Fries:
He he just hit you for no reason?
[00:15:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. We were standing in the lunch line, and he just turned around and popped me right in the face. I mean, my head maybe, my head maybe moved back like an inch or 2 at the most. And then he was like, well, that's Yeah, exactly. So I started walking towards him and he just ran. I, I never caught I never ran or anything like that. I just slowly walked towards him. Right. The teacher saw him running away from me and me slowly walking after him and came in and but and and Stan who got in between us. But
[00:16:28] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Yep. That is crazy. Oh, yeah. That that's the only one,
[00:16:36] Jamon Fries:
I I guess, fight that I've ever been in in my life. Well, yeah. Yep. Yep.
[00:16:41] Jesse Fries:
Any other political news?
[00:16:46] Jamon Fries:
I don't know if I really would call it political, but it's involving the White House. Okay. Sure. So are you familiar with the White House Correspondents Association?
[00:16:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:16:59] Jamon Fries:
Do you know what it actually is?
[00:17:04] Jesse Fries:
Well, I think so, but how about you say?
[00:17:07] Jamon Fries:
It's a nonprofit organization that has no jurisdiction, no authorization to do anything. Mhmm. But completely controls who has access to the press briefing room. Yep. Yep. They sell chairs in the tents outside of the White House Uh-huh. For the press briefings and stuff. They they make, like, $500,000 a year, and they have no employees.
[00:17:41] Jesse Fries:
Well, don't they they have that dinner that
[00:17:43] Jamon Fries:
maybe just goes straight for that dinner. Yeah. The they do have that that one dinner where a whole bunch of people come. Yeah. But, I mean, they have they have no legal authorization or jurisdiction to control anything.
[00:17:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But it it's it's those things that just they develop and then all of a sudden, it's like so somebody goes, we need somebody just to take control of this mess. I know it's the press, so the government can't get involved. Is there anybody that could do it? And then somebody goes, hey. Well, no. No. Actually actually, you're wrong about that. The,
[00:18:17] Jamon Fries:
it's it's supposed to be under the jurisdiction of the, White House press secretary.
[00:18:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, they can actually kick in. And stuff like that. Right. Yeah. Right. They can. But, I I'm just saying it's like you you don't wanna push that too far one way or the other just for because of freedom of press for the first amendment and everything like that, and you don't wanna piss. It I think it's I think pretty much most White House has realized it's best just to go with it because then they can be the bad person instead of the White House.
[00:18:49] Jamon Fries:
I mean, they deny somebody, you know? Yeah. Well, now now there's a new one that's that's just getting organized by, by people that are, associated with Joe Rogan and stuff like that Oh, yeah. Where it it's called the National White House Correspondents Association.
[00:19:08] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:19:09] Jamon Fries:
They Why not? And yeah. Exactly. And but, they they started setting up a tent of their own Uh-huh. For people. And Trump is I guess Trump has announced that he's going to, allow, the social media influencers and stuff like that into the press briefing rooms now.
[00:19:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I had heard that. So that should be interesting.
[00:19:35] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So that that'll be that could potentially be a pretty good, mix up for the for the in the press area. Oh, yeah. Yep.
[00:19:46] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:19:47] Jamon Fries:
You might actually see some better questions being asked.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
That'd be crazy. That would be crazy. I know. Let's see here. I got something from here in Texas. Represent state representative here in Texas. He he has proposed a bill that would make it, so that the legislature here could actually recall our senators if they are doing things we don't like. Basically, his idea is that, the federal government has gained too much power. Mhmm. And senators have become beholden to the Washington insiders, especially once Yeah. The senators were picked by popular vote. He said that that really took away the power of the state itself. And he argues that Yeah. Go ahead. No. No. Go.
[00:20:47] Jamon Fries:
Okay. I was gonna say it it what it what it really did, and this is one one thing that I don't understand why they did it, is the senate was supposed to be the state's representative. Yep. Exactly. They they represent the state, not the people. The house of representatives sort of represents the people. And as soon as you put the senate into a popular vote, they no longer represent the state. They now represent the people. So you've got 2 bodies of government that both represent the people, but no one's representing the states themselves.
[00:21:20] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yep. That is, precisely it. And he's argues that they should be beholden to the state and not to anything else, which would make sense to me. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I mean, that that was that was the original intention for the senate. So It was. It was the absolutely true. Absolutely true. So that's kinda interesting, I thought. So
[00:21:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:21:46] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. And then, what is it? The Manhattan DNA, Alvin Bragg, he wants the sentencing to be held off, on Trump for that felony.
[00:22:04] Jamon Fries:
So Yep. Yeah. That's been, it has been delayed now Yeah. Officially.
[00:22:12] Jesse Fries:
Yep. I to to I I wonder how long this could be delayed, because this is it's gonna go on appeal, and even without him being president, it would have probably been thrown out anyways in a later case. Yeah. You you know? So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Would have been. So to me, it's it's like it looks like the president's lawyers wanna argue he's president now, so he has immunity. But I think just let it go through, and then let it just be washed. And then because right now, all this is gonna do is keep the talking point that we have a felon as a president.
[00:22:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. You you need you need the Trump's people should should insist that they that it get completed and that it go to appeals.
[00:22:59] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Or completely dismissed. 1 or the other. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because because if if they just keep delaying it I mean, honestly, they can delay it for 4 years. And then as soon as he's out of office, then they can decide to put him into prison.
[00:23:15] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So yeah. I I I think they should just firstly and I I it really gives the Democrats that talking point that he's a felon. You know? It's without this, he wouldn't even be a felon. So
[00:23:29] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Let it let it make sure that it gets fast tracked into the appeals court. That should be job number 1 for for any of Trump's lawyers.
[00:23:40] Jesse Fries:
That's what I figure. That's what I figure. Mhmm.
[00:23:44] Jamon Fries:
Was he Talking about possible lawsuits, though. Uh-huh. You heard about, Whoopi Goldberg?
[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. In the bakery? Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:23:57] Jamon Fries:
Accuses the bakery of denying service because of her political leanings. Some say she'd some say she said it was because of her because of her race and all this other stuff as well.
[00:24:10] Jesse Fries:
When it's just saw, it was, like, it was political was how I framed it. What were there some arguments that it was based off race too?
[00:24:19] Jamon Fries:
I've I've heard it from a few places that that that may have been involved, but I don't I I didn't see it in anything official.
[00:24:28] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Because I saw On the view, she just complained about the politics. Yeah. It wasn't necessarily about the the race or anything like that. So
[00:24:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And, you know, I mean, I I completely understand why the bakery didn't do it.
[00:24:44] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. The
[00:24:46] Jamon Fries:
she was trying to place the order 2 weeks out. Right. They have faulty boilers that that just stop working on them randomly.
[00:24:55] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:24:56] Jamon Fries:
Which means you can't plan for anything long term.
[00:25:00] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. But, her assistant was able to go get them the day over the day before or something like that. Yeah. And, yeah. So yeah. Yep. They they got them. So I mean Yeah. Though, these people need to just shut their mouth.
[00:25:17] Jamon Fries:
They really do. It's
[00:25:19] Jesse Fries:
it's like, oh, you're trying to ruin yourself with all you you think you're you're playing you're playing a victim, and everybody's kinda sick and tired of it. You know? It's, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It it it it's like the lady playing Snow White. Everybody's just tired of her in that, movie that will probably never be released because it it's racking up too much money. And she makes keeps making stupid comments, and they can't seem to do know what to do with the dwarves or anything like that. Apparently, it's up to, like, $400,000,000, for production already.
Dang. On that one. Yeah. Yeah. On the live action Snow White. So yeah.
[00:25:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Is that the one where there's no actual dwarf that's playing the dwarves?
[00:26:04] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Last I heard it's CGI now for the dwarves. Before that, it was like, a merry band of misfits. So it was basically a DEI hire for the dwarves. Yeah. So there there there was every race under the sun and every size and every whatever. It was, you know, you know, but that that pissed off the dwarf community. Oh, yeah.
[00:26:30] Jamon Fries:
And I mean, so they they rely on these kinds on those kinds of movies for good jobs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:26:38] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It it's been all crazy. And then you have the wicked, wicked actress who got pissed off that somebody changed the, the move the movie poster to make it look more like the, the Broadway poster. God. And she just went off saying how horrible this person was and everything like that. And so now some people have said, I'm not gonna watch it just because of that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No.
[00:27:10] Jamon Fries:
The the actors the actors and actresses seem to be really getting extremely unhinged lately.
[00:27:17] Jesse Fries:
Some of them have. Some of them have. Yeah. But when when it comes to like that, I saw this one. I can't remember if it was up article or whatnot, or a TikTok. But it was, that that Snow White, lady. I can't remember what her name is. But basically Mhmm. Jenna Ortega, you know, the girl that plays Wednesday, on the Netflix show Wednesday? Well, apparently, she's been taking over a lot of the roles that that lady had. And now she's met Jenna Ortega for taking her roles. But Jenna Ortega, she's just minding her own business, Just working hard, like, and going through life, you know. If somebody decides that they don't wanna work with you,
[00:27:59] Jamon Fries:
you have to expect them to bring in somebody else.
[00:28:03] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. And if you cause too much trouble, people won't go with you. Yeah.
[00:28:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's not like they're gonna stop production on their on their movie or whatever because you're suddenly unavailable.
[00:28:14] Jesse Fries:
Well well, no. What it was is, well, not unavailable. Apparently, she had a whole lot of jobs in the pipeline for Disney. And Disney just kept slowly taking one away, then the next, then the next, then the next, then the next to where now all she has is Snow White. She has nothing she was gonna do some voice acting and whatnot, and Disney just kept taking things away from her. So
[00:28:36] Jamon Fries:
that's that's kinda what happens. I'd I'd be upset too, but I'd be upset at Disney. I wouldn't be upset at anyone else. Well,
[00:28:45] Jesse Fries:
some people blame the person that took it. So yeah. Some people blame the person that took it, you know. It's like, you should know better. Yeah. You know, it's all human for
[00:28:55] Jamon Fries:
It's like the scabs that cross union lines. Uh-huh. You know, the unions get so pissed at them. These are people that are unemployed. They're not part of the union, so it's good. So they're not affected by what the union's doing. Yep. And they want money, so they go in and work. I mean, it just makes sense. If you're not gonna work, I'll go and do it for you.
[00:29:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're willing to let people view you in a negative light, I I have more power to you. You know? So Yep. Let's see. What else you got?
[00:29:35] Jamon Fries:
The FDA is taking a whole bunch of, cold medicines off the shelves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The PE stuff. Yep. Yep. Yeah. They found out that, completely ineffective. It does nothing.
[00:29:50] Jesse Fries:
No. It does actually, but it it's It not not if it's taken orally. It it it does a little bit. It it says 1% of the drug actually gets into the system. So so to me, it's like, well, why don't you just up the dose then? Just say it. You know? It's, just up the dose. Well, I mean, for yeah. From from what I read,
[00:30:14] Jamon Fries:
it's completely ineffective. It doesn't do anything at all, the oral stuff, because the because it, like, breaks down in in your stomach.
[00:30:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, I I understand. I understand. But I actually use the PE stuff. So Yeah. And it's I I use just Sudafed PE, and it helps. It it does. I it could be just a a placebo effect. I don't know. Wait. It could be, I don't care if it helps it. I don't care if it's placebo or not. You know? Yep.
[00:30:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. They they say that this that, like, the nasal spray and stuff like that works works just the with the way it's intended to, but the pills and but the pills and then, like, NyQuil, it doesn't it doesn't do what it's supposed to do and stuff like that. See see the problem is is that the stuff that actually works
[00:31:05] Jesse Fries:
to get that, because it can be used in meth making. Yep. So you have to go it's technically over the counter, technically. Yeah. But you have to go to the pharmacist. And if you ask for it, the pharmacist is go looking at you, go in your fucking meth dealer. You just wanna make the meth. This is how they look at you. It's like Yeah. I once I went to get some, I got, some for myself, and then I got kids for my kids, you know? And Yeah. The look on his fucking face, dude, I swear to God. Yeah. It's like stop. Stop being such a asshole. Plain and simple. And this is how all these pharmacists deal with it. It's like, this is your job. Yeah. Plain and simple. Just give me what I want. You know? I could get as much as I want.
[00:31:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. This is an over well, I don't think in some places, you can't even get as much as you want. Some places have limits on how much I can sell. Get. You know? You you can't find mass quantities, of course. But for your personal
[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:
use, you know, a pack Oh, yeah. Pack or 2? Come on. Yep. It it Yeah. Especially during cold and flu season. It's like, just take it off the thing if you're gonna have a too much problem with it.
[00:32:18] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If if you if if you wanna if you wanna get rid of it, get rid of it. You know what I mean?
[00:32:27] Jesse Fries:
Don't make me feel like a criminal just for wanting what is the over the counter drug.
[00:32:32] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Mhmm. Makes absolute sense, but, you know, well, that's probably why it doesn't happen because it makes too much sense.
[00:32:41] Jesse Fries:
And it actually does work. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Even though it makes me feel funny, I don't like it. But, it's, Yep. Let's see. What else is oh, I have another drug, related one. Ozempic. So this lady where's the story? Come on. Pop up. I don't know why it's not But basically, there's this lady, she was on Ozempic. And then just and she lost, like, £7, like, a whole £7, apparently. And it got too expensive. And then she gained £16 after she went off of it.
[00:33:22] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's how it works.
[00:33:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I'm not never gonna take it. You know, it's like I'm a bit overweight, but it's no. Not worth it. My my,
[00:33:35] Jamon Fries:
my GP is now telling me that they wanna put me on that instead of instead of the, metformin for my prediabetes.
[00:33:47] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:33:48] Jamon Fries:
They wanna put me on Ozempic for that. And I'm like, with everything that I've heard about Ozempic, I think I'm gonna just have to follow mom's rule. Well, we do. Been on the market for 20 years, I'm not taking it.
[00:34:06] Jesse Fries:
That makes sense. That does make sense.
[00:34:09] Jamon Fries:
I mean, with all the because they've had there's so many health issues that happened because of Ozempic.
[00:34:14] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean Actually, the drug has been on the market for that long. It's it's technically generic. So Yeah.
[00:34:22] Jamon Fries:
But they don't sell it in their own countries.
[00:34:28] Jesse Fries:
What do you mean?
[00:34:30] Jamon Fries:
No. The the the country the a lot of the a lot of the places that we get Ozempic from are from outside of the US. Ah, okay. And those countries have it on the list of medications that should never be taken.
[00:34:45] Jesse Fries:
I did not know that. Yeah. It kinda makes sense.
[00:34:51] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Mhmm. There is Because I mean, it causes all well, I mean, yeah, it paralyzes your stomach essentially is what it does. Yep. Yep. Which means that the food doesn't move the way it's supposed to, which means it gets stuck Mhmm. Which causes massive problems.
[00:35:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It can. It really can. The side effects on it can be brutal and deadly. Oh, yeah. It's, yep. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to be on a level rest of your life. That's the thing. It's it's a lifetime thing. Once you go off Yeah. Apparently, you get cravings like nobody's business. Oh, yeah. That just are not controllable. So
[00:35:27] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. I mean, it so yeah. In the countries that that that produce most of it, they can't sell it there. It'll it's pretty much only sold here in the US.
[00:35:38] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. That is interesting. Yeah. I did not know that. I did not know that.
[00:35:46] Jamon Fries:
You know? Which is funny because you see so many other stories of going well, you know, the United States is the only one who does this, and we're stupid for doing it because we're the only ones to do it.
[00:35:57] Jesse Fries:
You know, like, all the dies and whatnot that the RFK Jr wants to get rid of and everything like this. It's like, Okay. So that's stupid. But this one over here, it makes me thin, so it's okay. You know? It's Yeah.
[00:36:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So it's you know, there is all sorts of stuff like that going on. So
[00:36:20] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. Interesting. Yeah.
[00:36:25] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I I have chosen not to go on to the Ozempic. No. I can understand. That makes sense. That makes sense. I I forgot about one that was kinda political.
[00:36:36] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:36:37] Jamon Fries:
As of 4 days ago, they're still counting votes and still having new ballot drops in some states.
[00:36:46] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. I I I see that in the overall vote, his lead has dropped to, like, 1.6% or something like that in the the he he he's won the electoral. No problem. But in the Yeah. Actual they're gonna try to make it seem like he didn't get the majority is what I'm thinking. Yeah.
[00:37:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, up in Wisconsin, they had a they had a ballot drop where, you know, if if it were if it were to make any sense
[00:37:19] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:37:20] Jamon Fries:
Based on the ways that the people voted, it should be at most 60 to 65% Harris versus Trump Right. In, like, in Chicago or something like that in in the major cities. Uh-huh. But this this dump in in in Wisconsin had, like, 25,000 votes for Kamala
[00:37:50] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:37:51] Jamon Fries:
And 2,000 for Trump. Odd. And that that's why all these ballot dumps are going. It's like 5 to 10% for the Republican, 90 to 95% for the Democrat of is is what the is what every ballot dump is getting. Yeah. They're trying to change the house and the senate is basically what they're trying to do, I think. Well, yeah, in, in California District 45. So they they they started voting on the 5th. They started counting on the 5th. Uh-huh. As of 15th, the Democrat finally took the lead by
[00:38:31] Jesse Fries:
30,
[00:38:37] Jamon Fries:
by, like, 3036 points
[00:38:40] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:38:42] Jamon Fries:
By by 36 votes. That was good. They were suddenly ready to stop counting.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
And then they were ready to stop counting.
[00:38:53] Jamon Fries:
That sounds about right. That sounds about right. I mean, they they were getting bell they were getting ballot dumps every day from 5th to 15th.
[00:39:02] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. I swear to god. I mean,
[00:39:05] Jamon Fries:
I I I had heard somewhere that California had a law that that they had to accept ballots up to 7 days out. Uh-huh. Well, 15th is 10 days out. So those those last 3 days, those shouldn't count.
[00:39:21] Jesse Fries:
It was probably business days.
[00:39:27] Jamon Fries:
Probably. And the, you know, the the the the funny thing about it is that most of these dumps happen at, like, 3 AM.
[00:39:39] Jesse Fries:
Always? Yep. It's kinda sketchy that way.
[00:39:43] Jamon Fries:
And they say they're coming in from the post office, but
[00:39:47] Jesse Fries:
I don't know if they're gonna go to the
[00:39:49] Jamon Fries:
grocery. Delivers at 3 AM. Exactly. I know. And and they they do in the building, you know, the mail sorting and stuff like that. The the truck drivers do, you know, the the ones that, you know, the the ones that are bringing the mail from, like, Kansas City to Denver or something like that. They're operating during the night, but not not the actual delivery man. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. They're union. There's no way in hell the union would let them do that.
[00:40:18] Jesse Fries:
It's all a bit fishy.
[00:40:20] Jamon Fries:
Just saying. Really is. Yeah. Yep.
[00:40:23] Jesse Fries:
I'm not saying anything is the Republicans. I'm just saying it's fishy.
[00:40:27] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. But, of course, the Republicans saw the election. So yeah.
[00:40:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I love the one about, using Starlink. Yes. That one is hilarious.
[00:40:38] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. And, you know, I've I've also been just, I was perusing through Twitter through x earlier today. And, you know, they used to say that conservatives would start a civil war if Trump lost.
[00:41:01] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:41:03] Jamon Fries:
Now I'm starting to see a whole bunch of liberals saying that we need to start a civil war so that we can preserve our democracy.
[00:41:15] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. That's how it goes. Since then. How it goes. Yeah. No. It is crazy how it's you know, we're all alike. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Crazy is as crazy does, you know, and there's crazy on all sides.
[00:41:37] Jamon Fries:
Well, you know, it just to me, it really the fact that these people are that that they're so afraid of Trump being in office, thinking that he's gonna take away all their rights, he's going to bring back slavery, he's going to never allow another election again or anything like that. Yeah. All of that shit comes straight from the politicians in the media's mouth. Oh, it does. It does. It does. I mean, if they if they weren't they spent all of their time trying to foment so much fear during during the election, during the while they were running for election Mhmm. That they completely forgot to even talk about what their policies were.
[00:42:27] Jesse Fries:
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[00:44:42] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:44:44] Jesse Fries:
So with that, I came across this thing. It was a article that said it was from Bloomberg Businessweek, and the article was entitled why tech billionaires love the author of Jurassic Park, Michael Crichton. You know, Michael Crichton, he's a great author. Right? Or was. He's dead now. Yeah. I think. Right? Yep. But, basically, apparently, one thing that a lot of tech billionaires, even if they disagree on so many other things, apparently, what they can agree with is, that they like Michael Crichton, apparently. And in there, it talked about this one thing that Michael Crichton came up with, this one theory.
It's called the Gell Mann Amnesia Effect. What this is, it's, this this will be quoted from, Michael Creighton. He gave it during the lecture or something like that. But what he said was briefly briefly stated the Gell Mann amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on any on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and you see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often the article is so wrong, it actually presents the story backwards. Reversing cause and effect, it I call this the wet streets cause rain stories, and papers are full of them. So you get that, wet streets cause rain. It's not the rain causing the wet streets. It's the wet street. Yeah.
[00:46:29] Jamon Fries:
He goes on to say,
[00:46:30] Jesse Fries:
in any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story. And then you turn the page to the National or International Affairs, and you read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow accurate about Palestine, than or was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and you forget what you know. Hence, the amnesia part of that. So, basically, if you know the subject right? Right? So, basically, if you know a subject, you realize all the errors in that newspaper, but you you'll believe everything else in that newspaper, which is it's the truth. It's the truth.
[00:47:15] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That absolutely does happen all the time.
[00:47:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And so when it comes to the news media just spouting, as you were talking about, you know, it's it's just because you believe them. You you don't know you don't even know why you believe them. You know? It's
[00:47:32] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Well, it's a reputable source. They wouldn't lie.
[00:47:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, I saw this other one, that when he went on to say at one point, I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. So this whole effect, it only is for news media. It doesn't happen anywhere else. Right. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. Yeah. So basically, a liar is a liar, and you're not gonna believe anything they say. Right?
[00:48:07] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[00:48:08] Jesse Fries:
Okay. In court, he goes on, there is a legal doctrine of falses in uno, falses in omnibus, which means truthful in one part or untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. So So if you lie on the stand, you can't really believe anything that they say on the stand.
[00:48:27] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.
[00:48:30] Jesse Fries:
But then he goes on to say, but when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper, when in fact it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia. Yeah.
[00:48:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I found it. Yeah. That makes absolute sense. It's amazing how so many people get amnesia with the media. And I I don't know how many times I've, you know, talking to talking to people or something, and they're talking about this, this news or this, you know, thing that they were talking about on, like, NBC or something like that. Mhmm. And then the very next day, they see a news report that's the exact opposite. Now that's the gospel truth.
[00:49:20] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Or they'll just hear the one and then the media will hide the one that kinda disproves it, and then you only remember the other one. Yep. Yep. And the media can really fuck with us pretty well.
[00:49:34] Jamon Fries:
Oh, they do a good job of it too.
[00:49:38] Jesse Fries:
They really do. They really do. On all sides. Oh, completely. Completely. I yeah. I I'm just throwing pretty much all media under the bus on that one. Yep. It's, even us podcasters. Except for us, of course, Raymond. You know? Well, of course not. I mean, we would never do something like that. Never. Never. Never. We have no biases. None. I mean,
[00:50:01] Jamon Fries:
if if I say something wrong, it's because, well, the place that I got the information from was flawed.
[00:50:08] Jesse Fries:
Of course. Not your interpretation or anything like that. Oh,
[00:50:11] Jamon Fries:
no. No. No. My my interpretations are always spot on. Yeah. I'm I'm like dad. You know? I made a mistake one day. I thought I was wrong.
[00:50:29] Jesse Fries:
Or or or this or the song that, dad loves. Oh, lord. It's hard to be humble, but I'm perfect every way every way. I added that to my list just so I remembered that.
[00:50:42] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Great song.
[00:50:48] Jesse Fries:
It it really is. It really is. Let's see. What what tech do you got? What? Tech news? Got a
[00:50:58] Jamon Fries:
yeah. There's a, new company started out just, over in, Kansas City, Missouri Mhmm. That is doing something that no one else has ever been able to that nobody else they've either never been able to or they've never attempted to do this before. So the process of making the, making parts for, like, hypersonic jets and stuff like that, you know, it needs to be able to to withstand a lot of heat if it goes hypersonic.
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:51:33] Jamon Fries:
And what they normally do to make those parts is they fire they they they basically, like, meld it. They they form it into shape, and then they cook it for, like, 4 or 5 days.
[00:51:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:51:49] Jamon Fries:
This new company is 3 d printing it.
[00:51:54] Jesse Fries:
And it's just as effective? Yeah.
[00:51:58] Jamon Fries:
Nice. Nice. Because the fire the firing happens with within the creation of this of the 3 d printing, so it's every single aspect of it is getting fired so it doesn't have to bake in.
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
[00:52:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The only limiting the only problem they have right now is they're they're just a brand new startup. Mhmm. So they can only handle small parts right now. They'll have to really scale up their sizes before they can start doing larger parts.
[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. That's business. You know, that's how it goes. Yeah. So Absolutely.
[00:52:29] Jamon Fries:
But, based on some of the projections that that the, that TechCrunch, the the, website that I found it on, has is that it's it should start dropping the prices of that of that material quite significantly as well as make it so that there's a lot more of it handy. So, yeah, they'll so they'll they'll be able to really do a lot more in the industries. And it's it'll it doesn't it's not just for hypersonic jets. It's basically any ballistic missile, any sing single stage missile. Mhmm. Also for, satellites, for, for rocket for for the engines the rocket engines and stuff that are used up in space. Uh-huh. So, I mean, there there's lots of different different things that it can be used for. But, yeah, the they started out they started out with a contract with the Department of Defense to to build to build it quickly for the for the DOD. So
[00:53:34] Jesse Fries:
that's cool. That is cool. Yep.
[00:53:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So that's pretty that that I thought that was pretty interesting. Oh, yeah. And speaking of speaking of rockets, you know, Elon Musk, the SpaceX launched the launched their, Starship's number 6 test yesterday.
[00:53:55] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Nice. Nice. Yep. There you go. They weren't they
[00:54:02] Jamon Fries:
they parts of it did, parts of it didn't. Okay. There was there was some conjecture that because of how well the last test went with the, starship module, the part that actually went into space. Uh-huh. They called the the rocket is called starship, and the module is called starship. So, you know, it really gets confusing. Not helpful. No. No. Not at all. So so when you say Starship, you're like, okay. So which part? But, so the module that went up into space last time, they were able to land it pretty much where they wanted it wanted to. And so there was some conjecture that that that it would be a possibility that they might try to go for a catch again with with that count with that one this time around. Oh, okay. But they they opted not to do that. They they went with a, very soft landing and, and I mean, they they have, like they they have again, they had buoys set up with video cameras.
I think this time the picture was a lot more stable, so they may have actually had a boat out there. It's all good. And it was I mean, it came down and just, like, it just a very, very soft landing into the water. Unfortunately, the, the the booster the the, the first stage rocket, they didn't end up being able to do a capture on that. There there were some, they got some some, results back from the tests that were run that made it said it they just chose that it was would be a lot safer to Okay. Land it in the Gulf of Mexico. So the but the one thing that they were able to do is they for the first time, they were actually able to fire the engine on the Starship module while it was up in space. Okay. Cool. Nice. Nice.
Yeah. So that's, so there there were pluses and there were minuses, but,
[00:55:57] Jesse Fries:
and it it seems to be going on track for the most part, though. Nice. Nice. I saw that they they're scheduled where they're wanting to be able to do, like, 4 or 500 a year or something like that of Starship, like send that many up. So Yep. That's kinda crazy. That'd be kinda cool.
[00:56:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Oh, and then which is why they which is why they wanna catch both both parts. Yep. Now they they do also have to put landing gear on the on the module itself because when it goes to Mars, there's not gonna be any chopstick. There's not gonna be that maxilla thing to catch them. So they have to be all land on the ground.
[00:56:34] Jesse Fries:
True. True. Yeah. But okay. I I I don't know what part will go or how anything like that. So Yeah. I I don't know how that mission is fully designed yet. So Yep. Let's see here. Got anything else tech or
[00:56:56] Jamon Fries:
is that about it? No. That's that's all I've got.
[00:56:59] Jesse Fries:
Okay. You got nothing else?
[00:57:01] Jamon Fries:
Nope.
[00:57:02] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Well, I have a couple things here. Not tech or anything like that. Let's see here. I I ran across this, one article. It's about wokeness. Mhmm. You know, being woke and everything like that. So this guy, Musa Alagharbi, he written a book. It's a new, it's called We Have Never Been Woke. And and I found the article interesting. It was basically just a review of the book, but, so what I'm taking is from a review of the book. So, you know, anyways Yeah. But what kind of his argument is that all these, he he calls them, moments in history where people just, become woke per se, not necessarily exactly woke as we know it, but just in their ways.
But he says that, basically, all these are caused by people that work with their minds and not with their hands. He calls these something like pseudo capitalists.
[00:58:11] Jamon Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:58:13] Jesse Fries:
And basically, the it's caused these awakenings are caused because the new and upcoming, people that are going through trying to establish themselves, while they're trying to establish themselves, they go through an upheaval that causes them to lose out on their aspirations. So examples of this would be, like, the great depression caused, he says, the first one. So, basically, a lot of people were coming out of college and everything like that, and they were the thinkers and everything like that. And then the great depression happened, and then basically everybody was shit out of luck. Right?
And so they lost out on that. And so that caused, wokening is, what he says. Then he says that the next one was, the draft during Vietnam War.
[00:59:12] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:59:13] Jesse Fries:
And basically, so all these kids, that had gone to school, which are generally the people that, work with their minds, not their hands. So for a while, you know, they had the exemption from the draft because they're in school. You know, like dad and everything like that. Right? Mhmm. And then they ended that. Right? They ended that exemption. And so he says that that ending of that exemption caused another awakening, with basic people really starting to go more heavily against the war, going more into environmentalist, going into, racial politics and everything like that, because they felt like the world was collapsing around them, and, they couldn't get what they wanted.
Then he says there was a third one, and this was in the late eighties to early nineties. You know, that dip in the economy, around George Bush the first? Yep. And then he said but he said that one just kinda caused what was going to happen later. And then the last one that has happened is, well, the woke crap that we've been going through lately. You know? Also, the me two movement and everything like that. He says all that is tied to it. And he says that this time, it's not due to economy or anything like that that actually caused the issue. It's actually that we have too many highly educated people to go around, and there's not enough jobs.
Yep. And so all these people are trying to vie for, these other jobs. And he's goes on to say that, basically, all this happens because that there are unrealized goals. Right? And so Mhmm. These people that have unrealized goals, they tend to align themselves with marginalized minorities. And then they will stress those social ills as a way to actually advance themselves. So, basically, they're going woke so that they can go get ahead. Not that they actually care, even though they say they do and they probably they might believe they do. But in all essence, he's saying they're actually it's an economic force. I think this guy is Marxist as in everything is caused by, economic factors.
Okay. And so, basically, he's saying that that is why, people have gone woke. So
[01:01:48] Jamon Fries:
I don't know. I don't quite buy that.
[01:01:52] Jesse Fries:
How so?
[01:01:54] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, if if that were the case, if it were apparently I cannot if it were different based on economic means and it was people that were that couldn't find work in in you know, they couldn't find the the work that they were trained to do Uh-huh. Through from through college, the wokeness wouldn't have started in the colleges because there's there's no they're not in they're not, you know, they're they're not not working in the field that they got that they studied for. They're still studying for these fields and hoping that there's gonna be jobs out there. So you see, it's not that it's not that they couldn't find jobs in their field.
It's, I mean, it's
[01:02:47] Jesse Fries:
No. Actually, Jaeme, I I I disagree with you on that because just going through, going for my master's and everything like that, the one thing I learned going through that, the one thing I heard is there's no jobs. Okay. There's no jobs. There's 300 people applying for one job. There's a 1000 people applying for 2 jobs. This
[01:03:16] Jamon Fries:
you know, so it's like Well, see, in in that case, I blame the colleges.
[01:03:21] Jesse Fries:
Well, you you can blame many other people, but what I'm saying is that it's you can blame the colleges. You can blame many aspects of society. And see, this is what this is what's wrong with just picking, going with a Marxist view of, of society
[01:03:40] Jamon Fries:
where it's all economics. There's so many things that go into it that you can't blame it all on economics.
[01:03:46] Jesse Fries:
No, exactly. Yep. But it it it it I some of it is economics and I could see where economic this type of economics would play a role because they're trying to figure out what went wrong and everything like that. So they try to help the marginalized. And then with that, they actually use that to actually gain a foothold in their own sphere that they wanna be in. I could really see that. I wouldn't see why not. So
[01:04:13] Jamon Fries:
Either either that or they're trying to create I I think it's more they're trying to create a new sphere for themselves
[01:04:20] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:04:21] Jamon Fries:
And trying to force it upon everybody else to accept their sphere. Well, yeah. Yeah. I think we're kinda saying the same. I mean, that that's what d that's what DEI was. I mean, that somebody came up with the thought of that and it's like, I
[01:04:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. D I could I could make some money doing this. Well, DEI, you know, it's like what some schools have, like, 400 people working for the DEI department. Yeah. Yeah. It's like and those jobs did not exist ever before. So so actually, you could you could see that the you could see the argument there then. You know, they actually did actually create their own jobs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[01:05:00] Jamon Fries:
so yeah. I think I mean, I think that's what the well clean was. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah. I did there's some very good ideas in there. I mean, I I don't buy it all as the entire means, but Right. Right. It it definitely would play a part.
[01:05:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. To to when when you narrow down anything into, like like just pure economic or pre or social, pure religious or whatever, you know. It's it it negates everything else in society, you know. So Yep.
[01:05:33] Jamon Fries:
Well, that would be that would be like a historian that was studying, say, medieval history.
[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:05:44] Jamon Fries:
That just completely discounted the fact that there was any other history out there. You know, if if they if their entire world circulated around medieval history and they weren't willing to accept any influences from the past or from or anything like that onto into what happened in the medieval hit in the medieval times, Right. That would essentially be the same. You know? You you you get so hyper focused on this one little thing that you completely
[01:06:13] Jesse Fries:
discount everything else. No. Which happens. Which happens. You you you come up with you you come up with this great thesis. And then anything that attacks that thesis and I've had professors this way to where they will not budge. It doesn't matter if you can prove that they're wrong or anything like that. They will not they will defend it to the grave just because Yep. Their whole job is dependent on the research Yeah. That they did on that one thing. Yep.
[01:06:44] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Oh, yeah. That's why that's why the that's why science has gotten now, you know. I I I I could I if you told me in 1993 that anyone was going to say, this is set science, so you can't say anything that doesn't agree with it. Right. I would have said you're a fucking nut.
[01:07:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Completely.
[01:07:13] Jamon Fries:
But now that's what it is.
[01:07:15] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. It's like settled science. What there is no such thing as settled science.
[01:07:20] Jamon Fries:
No.
[01:07:23] Jesse Fries:
Never has been. You you you it's why they don't call anything laws anymore. You you know? There's the law of gravity and whatnot. So there are laws. But Yep. Even those laws have been broken so many times by, like, Einstein and everything like that. They showed the errors of them. And Yep. So now it is solely theory. They only say Yep. Theory. That the relativity theory, you know, not the law of relativity. It's the theory of relativity. You you know, there's no they know there's no such thing. Evolution. Exactly.
Yeah. The theory of evolution that even though it's basically it's set. Look. We know it. Look at everything. This is yeah. But If if you say anything again if you say anything against evolution,
[01:08:11] Jamon Fries:
you're some bible dumping nut. Generally, yes. But you seem like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And most of them are. I mean, I I won't deny that.
[01:08:22] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Especially, it's like with evolution. It's like, well, we we've seen it happen. We're like, we've actually seen it happen as a species. It it it's like, no. It's like, okay. Whatever. Move out of life. But Yeah. It's
[01:08:37] Jamon Fries:
see, for for me with evolution, I I firmly agree that there is microevolution. I have yet to see any proof of macroevolution, though.
[01:08:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, the micro adds to the macro. You know, the the the that's generally how it's, viewed.
[01:08:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. But I but I mean, you know, there there's always you know, there's there there's 2 like, say for the with the evolution of the human being. Uh-huh. There's too many very large jumps where they can't find anything that's across between.
[01:09:11] Jesse Fries:
They they they keep finding more and more, but I I I understand your thought. I understand your thought. It it it it to me, it it it the absence of evidence doesn't mean that there's
[01:09:30] Jamon Fries:
doesn't mean that it's not true. You know? It's Right. Right. No. Absolutely. I I will not disagree with that because, you know, I mean, the flood may have complete the flood completely rearranged pretty much everything. You know? The the the big worldwide flood that we had. There there's a lot of conjecture that that
[01:09:48] Jesse Fries:
that really moved everything around, and it put stuff into different places than it than it should have been. Well, see, I don't even really I I I don't really even believe in that really. So, you know, it's a
[01:09:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, there's
[01:10:01] Jesse Fries:
yeah. I
[01:10:02] Jamon Fries:
The localized floods. Yes. But it's, They they say that they say that they can find that that they can find those the marking the making the evidence of the flood pretty much everywhere in the world.
[01:10:15] Unknown:
But So
[01:10:18] Jamon Fries:
my thought is, wouldn't it couldn't it have been local floods everywhere in the world?
[01:10:25] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They could have been many different things. It's hard to say. Yeah. It's, I'm sure there were floods everywhere because, well, that's what happens. You know?
[01:10:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. They they they also they also say as proof that every every single religion out there has a flood within its within its history. Right. Well, I mean, of course, there's so many fucking floods that happened almost every year across the world that, I mean, it would be shocking if they didn't have a major flood in their history. You know, it's like the the the religions that are gonna come out of North or South Carolina
[01:10:59] Jesse Fries:
North Carolina, wherever it is. I I'm sure they're gonna talk about the floods.
[01:11:03] Unknown:
Yep. Absolutely.
[01:11:05] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. But yeah. No. So that's the for me though, I think the biggest reason that I don't quite support macroevolution just yet is, and this is purely scientific. It's it's a purely scientific reason. In order to prove something as scientific, you have to be able to repeat it. And and this day, it is absolutely impossible for to to take a one sing a single cell creature and have it become a multicell creature. It never happens. I I I'm I'm not I'm not arguing something. So that that's yeah. No. That that's that's the one argument that I have against evolution now. Okay. I've gotten Okay. I I've given up all my other arguments because, I mean, they they can't be proven. So, you know, I I like being factual.
And so
[01:12:05] Jesse Fries:
So basically, you just wave So for me, it's It's just you're you're you're you're just you're skeptical about evolution. It's not that you necessarily completely discount it. It's just that you're skeptical about it because you haven't actually seen, like, the macro level. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I could I I could see that. I I I think skepticism I I'm kind of a skeptic too. So,
[01:12:29] Jamon Fries:
I I don't think I will never completely discount anything. I understand. Yeah.
[01:12:34] Jesse Fries:
I I I think skepticism is prove it to me wrong. Skepticism kinda makes sense to me. You know, I'm kinda skeptical about religion. So, you know, it's it's just what I have. Yeah. It's Well, I mean It's like people go, oh, don't don't you see all this all these don't you see the miracles every day? I go, no. I see a tree. I see a sunset. This is just what it is. It's it's not there's no miracle here, you know. Exactly. It's like, oh, a baby being born is a miracle. I go, no. It really isn't. It's just it's it's nature. This is how animals breed. I don't know what else to say about it. You know? So some people see the miracle in everything. And then Yeah. Some people like me don't see a miracle in anything. You know? So Yeah.
Let's see here. I mean
[01:13:25] Jamon Fries:
yeah. I'm kind of the same way, but I still believe. I'm I'm still fairly religious.
[01:13:31] Jesse Fries:
I understand. I understand. No problem. Because I don't need to see it to believe it. No. That that's fine. I I'm a skeptic, so I need to see it. I'm, like, down in Thomas. Let's see here. So, the last story I will have, is, looks like the UK labor government is trying to screw over the farmers over there. Yes. Yeah. With the inheritance tax. Yeah. So there's so many I was there's so many stories. I was like pro labor or anti labor, you know. It's like I I don't know which way it actually boils down to, but, you know, why you try to screw over the farmers? I I and the and farmers in Europe, they protest. These people protest. It's not like farmers here in the US. Oh, no. No. The farmers here in the US are kind of lazy. They, they, they, they go, you want me to protest? Not, not doing I'm, I'm good at work in the field. Over there, they'll, they'll just let everything go to crap and
[01:14:29] Jamon Fries:
protest. So. You you may find the odd farmer that'll drive his tractor towards the towards the government building or something like that here in the US. But yeah. No. Never a mass protest. No. Maybe it's because we're just too damn big. Maybe that's it. It could be. It could be. It's it's like
[01:14:47] Jesse Fries:
driving a tractor to DC. Holy hell, dude.
[01:14:53] Jamon Fries:
Especially if you're in, like, Montana.
[01:14:55] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Yeah. Minnesota, Montana. You know? It's like Yep. Dude, this thing can go, like, 30 miles an hour at max speed.
[01:15:04] Jamon Fries:
It's gonna be a little Pennsylvania, it'd be hell driving a tractor to to DC.
[01:15:10] Jesse Fries:
It would. Okay. Let's get this tractor through that tunnel. Let's do it.
[01:15:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's a I I was, watching a video about, this guy that he he bought some farmland, said he could go shooting and stuff like that. Yeah. It's it's,
[01:15:32] Jesse Fries:
Corbin. Yeah.
[01:15:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And and and so I watched I watched an interview of him with the BBC.
[01:15:40] Jesse Fries:
Oh, it was hilarious, the kind of questions the BBC was asking them. I saw that same interview. He's going, you BBC, this is what's wrong.
[01:15:48] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I I found it very interesting that in in the UK, 96% of the population does not pay an inheritance tax. Yep. Which, you know, they they claim that they're they claim that the farm is the that that people buy farmland to get away from the inheritance tax, but 96% of the the British people do not own farms. So who are the other loopholes that they go through? And there is obviously a lot of loopholes.
[01:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And then the interview percent of the people actually pay it. Yeah. And then that interview in, other speeches he gave, it's like, when he bought the farm, he goes, yeah. It's just a lark. You know? And and then he goes, then I started farming. Dude, this is expensive. Yep. Yep. You you know? So Absolutely. It's like so even if you have, like, after taxes after all the exemptions are given and everything like that, you just have to pay back, what, the 20% on something to where it's like you have to pay, like, a $170,000 over 10 years. But to a farmer, they're working on some very small margins, like tiny margins Yep. To where that and you can so you have a $170,000 have to pay, but you can pay that back over 10 years. So that's 17 k a year.
But Yeah. When you're working on small margins, that's pretty much impossible. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, and and it's farming. So there's good years, there's bad years. There's no consistent years when it comes to farming. No. There there isn't. No. So yeah. There seems to be this whole thing in the European area, since the UK. I don't know how they view themselves as being Europe part of the EU or how that all equals out to be anymore. But anyways, in that whole area, they they really don't seem to appreciate farmers. They really don't seem to appreciate farmers. No. Farmers don't. It's kinda weird. We're getting there too, though. We are. But I love farmers. Farmers are the greatest. So that's people who eat. Yep. Yep. Yep. They feed us. We need them.
[01:17:59] Jamon Fries:
We need them. Without them, we die.
[01:18:01] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:18:02] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean, without them, any you know, without them, anyone that lives in a large town or a city is dead Yep. Within within weeks Mhmm. If all of these farmers suddenly disappeared. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, we we need our farmers very badly.
[01:18:25] Jesse Fries:
We really do. Go farming. Woo hoo. Yep. Well, thank you for joining us for episode 12 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.
[01:18:37] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:18:39] Jesse Fries:
And you guys have a great week.
Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, November 20th, and we are live with episode number 12 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas where fall has actually hit. It's kinda crazy. We're actually just in the sixties right now. Usually, it's been seventies or eighties.
[00:00:40] Jamon Fries:
Nice. Nice. And I'm Jamen Friese coming at you from eastern Kansas where it's been so windy, it's affecting people's Christmas plans.
[00:00:51] Jesse Fries:
How now? They
[00:00:54] Jamon Fries:
they're currently setting up the trees for the, for Christmas tree lightings and stuff like that. Uh-huh. And we've had 50 50 plus mile per hour winds, and it's blowing the trees all over the place.
[00:01:05] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus. Oops.
[00:01:08] Jamon Fries:
Yep. We're we got at least another couple more days of high winds coming on us too. So they've gotta they it it might actually cause a little bit of delay from what they're for their planning and stuff.
[00:01:21] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. And I see what next week, you could be in the forties? I was checking the weather. Yeah. Well, we've we've been,
[00:01:29] Jamon Fries:
we, yeah, we've been, we've had lows in the thirties forties lately. But, yeah, it's supposed it's supposed to start dropping down there again pretty good.
[00:01:41] Jesse Fries:
That's crazy. I saw, yeah, highs of forties next week. Yeah. So it'll be a cold Thanksgiving, it looks like.
[00:01:48] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:01:50] Jesse Fries:
Nothing wrong with that, though. No. Not too wrong. Nothing too wrong about that at all.
[00:01:55] Jamon Fries:
And forty is not. Forty is not that bad. At least it's not freezing or below freezing. It can be it can be worse. It could be worse. Yeah. We could get freezing rain on Thanksgiving. That would suck.
[00:02:06] Jesse Fries:
That would suck. That really would suck. It's, so what you got for us today, Jamon?
[00:02:13] Jamon Fries:
Well, I've got kind of a gambit. I've got politics. I've got I suppose you could call it entertainment news. I've got medical. I've got tech, politics, space flight,
[00:02:30] Jesse Fries:
all sorts of good stuff. Okay. Well, let's let's start with politics. Why not? That seems to be your thing. That's right.
[00:02:39] Jamon Fries:
So, the first the first thing I have on politics is, of course, everyone should know by now, Biden authorizing Ukraine to launch missiles into Russia.
[00:02:49] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Long range so called long range missiles. Yep. Yes. Yes.
[00:02:54] Jamon Fries:
To hit the to hit troops that are where basically where they're warehousing all their missiles and stuff like that. Mhmm. And so they've launched a few of those the few of those missiles in, which, Russia ain't too happy about.
[00:03:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. That's an understatement. Yeah.
[00:03:15] Jamon Fries:
They're they're threatening the world war 3 now. They're they're threatening the nukes.
[00:03:19] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. That's what well, they've been threatening that for forever. You know? It's it's they they they've been threat it's gotten to the point where it's, like, going, dude, you gotta put up or shut up. Plain and simple. And I I I think they may be getting ready to put up.
[00:03:35] Jamon Fries:
And your thoughts on that? They're not act they're not I don't think they'll actually use a nuke the first time, but, the US embassy plus Spanish embassy, Italian embassies in Ukraine have all closed down.
[00:03:48] Jesse Fries:
Well, no. See, that would be a smart move on their part to to hit the embassy, so it would be, I think. Yeah.
[00:03:54] Jamon Fries:
And what what they're, according to a lot of the intel, they think that they're gonna use, some of their mobilized CBMs to hit it. Yeah. I I wouldn't doubt it because they really, Russia has been
[00:04:08] Jesse Fries:
they they haven't hit Ukraine with everything that they can hit them with. They haven't. Oh, yeah. No. Not even close. They could rebelize a place like Yeah. Kyiv could be completely rebelized. It would it would take, like,
[00:04:22] Jamon Fries:
10 minutes and all of Ukraine would be gone. Yeah. Basically. Basically. Yeah. And so because when they if when they launch your missiles, it's not gonna take that long to get there. Yeah. What what I think it will be is it's
[00:04:36] Jesse Fries:
Putin, he's a rational actor in my point of view. Yep. And with that in mind, he he won't actually attack a NATO country. I know he's warning to and everything like that, but I think, the embassies would actually make sense because it's attacking a NATO member, but not really at the same time. So I think that would be
[00:04:58] Jamon Fries:
It's it's it's technically attacking if if they were to attack to attack, say, the US embassy. It's technically attacking US soil, but it's not really.
[00:05:09] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's just like when we, hit the the Chinese embassy in, what was it, Kosovo or something like that Yeah. Back in the nineties. Oops.
[00:05:21] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. No. The embassies don't seem to do very well in wartime.
[00:05:25] Jesse Fries:
No. They really don't. The way I the way I think it is oh, with this also, I saw a report that, Biden also approved landmine use in Ukraine. Yes.
[00:05:37] Jamon Fries:
Anti personnel landmines. What what other landmines are there? Come on. Yeah. I get you. Well, the the there's landmines that are designed for vehicles. They Well, right. Have a In general They have a larger explosive, but they don't have nearly as much shrapnel.
[00:05:52] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. I know. I understand. But landmines are landmines in my book. You know? You get picky on that. But it's yeah. So that is also the escalation and everything like that. My point of view on this, the the like, from the two points of view, it's like, I think Biden's trying to strengthen Ukraine's, position in the negotiations that are about to come up when Trump's gets in there. And so that's why he's doing it. That's what I figure. From Putin's side, he knows that Trump is gonna come in and which will change how the United States looks on all this. So I do not think that he's gonna risk a World War 3. I know that's what's been in the news and everything like that. Biden's risking World War 3, yada yada yada.
But I really don't see that, especially for these attack missiles that they have. It's the range is what, a 130 kilometers. So they call those Yeah. They call those long range, but it's not really that long of range.
[00:06:58] Jamon Fries:
You know? It's a It's it's it's long range in so much as it gets out of it's out of line of sight. So it's not it it hits further than the it hits further than the current battlefield. Yes. That that's why it's long range.
[00:07:17] Jesse Fries:
But beyond that, it's I I I'd say medium range is probably what I'd put that at if that, you know, it's like Yeah. But then, you know, it's like, I don't know the qualifications for each, level of a it's like if it's within the continent but, like, 500 miles away, is that, like, a super long range missile? Yeah.
[00:07:38] Jamon Fries:
Or super duper And that's no. No. That that's kinda one of the one of the other thing I don't really understand is, so we provide all these weapons to Ukraine. Mhmm. But then we tell tell them they can't use them, and they have to get authorization from us even after we've given them the weapons? Yeah. This war is just, I mean, what the hell? It's a stupid war. If you're gonna give weapons to somebody, let them fucking use them. You know? Give them shit that you're gonna give them shit that they can use. Yeah. Yeah. Here's a gun, but you can't use it.
[00:08:13] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I'm with you on that one. It does. It's, the whole thing is stupid in my book. It's, yeah. But, yeah, that's how I think of it. I don't think, Putin will actually throw a nuke, and I don't think he'll actually attack a NATO country. Embassy, I could see that. I I think it's it's kinda like, with the whole Iran, Israel thing where they they were just trading back and forth, but they neither side actually went all out. You know? Oh, yeah. It was it was just Yeah. It was just a a little back and forth that go, ah, you hit me. So here's another You know, that's that's how most that's how most of the,
[00:08:57] Jamon Fries:
of the 3rd party wars happen that we get involved in. You know? Because everybody knows that if we actually use the full strength that that's available, there wouldn't be anything left there.
[00:09:10] Jesse Fries:
That's true. That's true. And and we which it but it also makes it hard to know. It's like we it's like who will win if we actually went to war Yeah. Like with China or Russia. If we actually went to war, and it was all out, bar, nukes, who would win? You you you know, it's like
[00:09:32] Jamon Fries:
It's a tough call. Right? I mean, China's technology is starting to catch up, and that's they they they're definitely in the with the advantage of personnel. Yep. Personnel. Yeah. They have they have they have a lot more people in our military than we have.
[00:09:50] Jesse Fries:
Yes. They do. But we also have a large pool to pull from if need be. So it's, with a draft or whatnot. So Right.
[00:09:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. But, you know, for us, it was always our technology kept us above and beyond everybody else. And, honestly, we haven't really had any major technology investments in our military in a while.
[00:10:15] Jesse Fries:
It's been a little while. Yeah. It's I I'm sure there's things we don't know about and everything like that. But Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I I don't know too much about that, really. I don't keep up on military tech very well. So Yeah. And sometimes old is good. Sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:10:37] Jamon Fries:
Supposedly, the China has a new missile that can travel at insane speeds that can Yeah. The hypersonic. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So that that would be something to worry to be worried about.
[00:10:51] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But we also have defenses against those. It's like they say supposedly Russia used some of their hypersonic, in Ukraine, and Ukraine was able to knock most of them out. So, you know Why the hell would they use supersonic in Ukraine? Just to try to get the missiles through, from what I understand. At least that was a story. Maybe they didn't know or anything like that. But I think it's possible. But, yeah, who knows? Yeah. So it's I think that technology it's like, if you know the speed, as long as it's not, like, a real close thing, but if it's, like, coming from, like, China, even if it's hypersonic, you have a few minutes to find it and shoot it. You know, you can just do the trajectory
[00:11:34] Jamon Fries:
with the different speed and As long as it's coming towards you, it's gonna be easy to knock it out of the air. Yeah. So I yeah.
[00:11:42] Jesse Fries:
Well, you you have to do it. We're we're not expert on that, but
[00:11:46] Jamon Fries:
Well, well, no. But, I mean, you you know, it's just a simple mathematical equation.
[00:11:51] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:11:53] Jamon Fries:
I I had to do those mathematical equations in just a freshman in high school. So Mhmm. You know, if you can do it as a freshman in high school, the military should be able to do it, you'd hope.
[00:12:04] Jesse Fries:
Hopefully. Hopefully. Let's see here. Do you have anything, like, else that's Russia related? I have a little bit of Russia related stuff. No. Nothing else that's Russia related. Okay. Well, here's one. So did you hear that, communication cable, fiber optic, was cut. This was let's see in Europe. It was like, where was it located exactly? It was it was in the Baltic Sea. 1 link in Finland and Germany, and and then the other one connecting Sweden and Lithuania. Well, nobody knows who did it or not, but, the Europeans, like always, they're blaming Russia. They just They just wanna blame Russia.
Just like they blamed Russia on that, that pipeline, that the Ukrainians blew up. You know? You know, it's like, I bet it was the Ukrainians again. Personal. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like why Russia is always like, oh, why would we do that? Why? Why? It makes no sense.
[00:13:10] Unknown:
You get a
[00:13:12] Jamon Fries:
and it's Well, I I I saw reports. I I don't know exactly where it was, but I saw reports talking about how, like, 3 different countries were closing in on a Chinese brigade or something like that that they believe cut some communication lines too.
[00:13:31] Jesse Fries:
Was that open in Europe?
[00:13:33] Jamon Fries:
I don't the the what I what I saw, it didn't say where it was. It just showed it, like, a a zoomed in picture. It didn't really it it was very I saw it kind of in Chinese the Chinese.
[00:13:48] Jesse Fries:
Got it. Well, it looks like there's actually well, when was this, 19th. So the story was yesterday. It, it said that there's no currently no evidence of sabotage even. But they were still Well, that obviously proves that the Russians did it. Yeah. But they were but European powers were warning of escalating hybrid attacks, you know, it's like it's like Yeah. You know? Hey. They
[00:14:14] Jamon Fries:
You know, the the I I'll never understand people, you know, with the with the, with the US Embassy closing. Mhmm. I saw so many art so many posts on Twitter. They're like, why is Russia escalating the war?
[00:14:33] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:14:34] Jamon Fries:
And I'm like, they're responding to missiles that we launched into that that were launched by Ukraine into Russia. How is that them escalating the war?
[00:14:46] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's how it always is. You you you know, it's like Yeah. And and we are never at fault, of course. No no matter what we do. Of course. It's always Of course. How Yeah. It's like, we'll poke you and poke you poke you and then get mad at you when you hit. Yeah. It's like my my son, he was, this one kid, him and he he has a he has a mortal enemy at school. He says, this kid punched him in the nose. And I go, well, punch him back. It's like
[00:15:22] Jamon Fries:
Oh, and that happened to me in high school too. You know? Mhmm. Kid just turned around, popped me in the nose, and started running running away.
[00:15:30] Jesse Fries:
Oh, wow.
[00:15:34] Jamon Fries:
I'll I'll never understand why he did that. We both played football together. My my my we when we lifted weights for football, my max press was about 3:30. Uh-huh. His was about 210.
[00:15:51] Jesse Fries:
He he just hit you for no reason?
[00:15:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. We were standing in the lunch line, and he just turned around and popped me right in the face. I mean, my head maybe, my head maybe moved back like an inch or 2 at the most. And then he was like, well, that's Yeah, exactly. So I started walking towards him and he just ran. I, I never caught I never ran or anything like that. I just slowly walked towards him. Right. The teacher saw him running away from me and me slowly walking after him and came in and but and and Stan who got in between us. But
[00:16:28] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Yep. That is crazy. Oh, yeah. That that's the only one,
[00:16:36] Jamon Fries:
I I guess, fight that I've ever been in in my life. Well, yeah. Yep. Yep.
[00:16:41] Jesse Fries:
Any other political news?
[00:16:46] Jamon Fries:
I don't know if I really would call it political, but it's involving the White House. Okay. Sure. So are you familiar with the White House Correspondents Association?
[00:16:57] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:16:59] Jamon Fries:
Do you know what it actually is?
[00:17:04] Jesse Fries:
Well, I think so, but how about you say?
[00:17:07] Jamon Fries:
It's a nonprofit organization that has no jurisdiction, no authorization to do anything. Mhmm. But completely controls who has access to the press briefing room. Yep. Yep. They sell chairs in the tents outside of the White House Uh-huh. For the press briefings and stuff. They they make, like, $500,000 a year, and they have no employees.
[00:17:41] Jesse Fries:
Well, don't they they have that dinner that
[00:17:43] Jamon Fries:
maybe just goes straight for that dinner. Yeah. The they do have that that one dinner where a whole bunch of people come. Yeah. But, I mean, they have they have no legal authorization or jurisdiction to control anything.
[00:17:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But it it's it's those things that just they develop and then all of a sudden, it's like so somebody goes, we need somebody just to take control of this mess. I know it's the press, so the government can't get involved. Is there anybody that could do it? And then somebody goes, hey. Well, no. No. Actually actually, you're wrong about that. The,
[00:18:17] Jamon Fries:
it's it's supposed to be under the jurisdiction of the, White House press secretary.
[00:18:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, they can actually kick in. And stuff like that. Right. Yeah. Right. They can. But, I I'm just saying it's like you you don't wanna push that too far one way or the other just for because of freedom of press for the first amendment and everything like that, and you don't wanna piss. It I think it's I think pretty much most White House has realized it's best just to go with it because then they can be the bad person instead of the White House.
[00:18:49] Jamon Fries:
I mean, they deny somebody, you know? Yeah. Well, now now there's a new one that's that's just getting organized by, by people that are, associated with Joe Rogan and stuff like that Oh, yeah. Where it it's called the National White House Correspondents Association.
[00:19:08] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
[00:19:09] Jamon Fries:
They Why not? And yeah. Exactly. And but, they they started setting up a tent of their own Uh-huh. For people. And Trump is I guess Trump has announced that he's going to, allow, the social media influencers and stuff like that into the press briefing rooms now.
[00:19:31] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I had heard that. So that should be interesting.
[00:19:35] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. So that that'll be that could potentially be a pretty good, mix up for the for the in the press area. Oh, yeah. Yep.
[00:19:46] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:19:47] Jamon Fries:
You might actually see some better questions being asked.
[00:19:51] Jesse Fries:
That'd be crazy. That would be crazy. I know. Let's see here. I got something from here in Texas. Represent state representative here in Texas. He he has proposed a bill that would make it, so that the legislature here could actually recall our senators if they are doing things we don't like. Basically, his idea is that, the federal government has gained too much power. Mhmm. And senators have become beholden to the Washington insiders, especially once Yeah. The senators were picked by popular vote. He said that that really took away the power of the state itself. And he argues that Yeah. Go ahead. No. No. Go.
[00:20:47] Jamon Fries:
Okay. I was gonna say it it what it what it really did, and this is one one thing that I don't understand why they did it, is the senate was supposed to be the state's representative. Yep. Exactly. They they represent the state, not the people. The house of representatives sort of represents the people. And as soon as you put the senate into a popular vote, they no longer represent the state. They now represent the people. So you've got 2 bodies of government that both represent the people, but no one's representing the states themselves.
[00:21:20] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yep. That is, precisely it. And he's argues that they should be beholden to the state and not to anything else, which would make sense to me. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I mean, that that was that was the original intention for the senate. So It was. It was the absolutely true. Absolutely true. So that's kinda interesting, I thought. So
[00:21:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:21:46] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. And then, what is it? The Manhattan DNA, Alvin Bragg, he wants the sentencing to be held off, on Trump for that felony.
[00:22:04] Jamon Fries:
So Yep. Yeah. That's been, it has been delayed now Yeah. Officially.
[00:22:12] Jesse Fries:
Yep. I to to I I wonder how long this could be delayed, because this is it's gonna go on appeal, and even without him being president, it would have probably been thrown out anyways in a later case. Yeah. You you know? So Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Would have been. So to me, it's it's like it looks like the president's lawyers wanna argue he's president now, so he has immunity. But I think just let it go through, and then let it just be washed. And then because right now, all this is gonna do is keep the talking point that we have a felon as a president.
[00:22:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. You you need you need the Trump's people should should insist that they that it get completed and that it go to appeals.
[00:22:59] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Or completely dismissed. 1 or the other. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Because because if if they just keep delaying it I mean, honestly, they can delay it for 4 years. And then as soon as he's out of office, then they can decide to put him into prison.
[00:23:15] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. So yeah. I I I think they should just firstly and I I it really gives the Democrats that talking point that he's a felon. You know? It's without this, he wouldn't even be a felon. So
[00:23:29] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Let it let it make sure that it gets fast tracked into the appeals court. That should be job number 1 for for any of Trump's lawyers.
[00:23:40] Jesse Fries:
That's what I figure. That's what I figure. Mhmm.
[00:23:44] Jamon Fries:
Was he Talking about possible lawsuits, though. Uh-huh. You heard about, Whoopi Goldberg?
[00:23:51] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. In the bakery? Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
[00:23:57] Jamon Fries:
Accuses the bakery of denying service because of her political leanings. Some say she'd some say she said it was because of her because of her race and all this other stuff as well.
[00:24:10] Jesse Fries:
When it's just saw, it was, like, it was political was how I framed it. What were there some arguments that it was based off race too?
[00:24:19] Jamon Fries:
I've I've heard it from a few places that that that may have been involved, but I don't I I didn't see it in anything official.
[00:24:28] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Because I saw On the view, she just complained about the politics. Yeah. It wasn't necessarily about the the race or anything like that. So
[00:24:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And, you know, I mean, I I completely understand why the bakery didn't do it.
[00:24:44] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh. The
[00:24:46] Jamon Fries:
she was trying to place the order 2 weeks out. Right. They have faulty boilers that that just stop working on them randomly.
[00:24:55] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:24:56] Jamon Fries:
Which means you can't plan for anything long term.
[00:25:00] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. But, her assistant was able to go get them the day over the day before or something like that. Yeah. And, yeah. So yeah. Yep. They they got them. So I mean Yeah. Though, these people need to just shut their mouth.
[00:25:17] Jamon Fries:
They really do. It's
[00:25:19] Jesse Fries:
it's like, oh, you're trying to ruin yourself with all you you think you're you're playing you're playing a victim, and everybody's kinda sick and tired of it. You know? It's, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It it it it's like the lady playing Snow White. Everybody's just tired of her in that, movie that will probably never be released because it it's racking up too much money. And she makes keeps making stupid comments, and they can't seem to do know what to do with the dwarves or anything like that. Apparently, it's up to, like, $400,000,000, for production already.
Dang. On that one. Yeah. Yeah. On the live action Snow White. So yeah.
[00:25:59] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Is that the one where there's no actual dwarf that's playing the dwarves?
[00:26:04] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. Last I heard it's CGI now for the dwarves. Before that, it was like, a merry band of misfits. So it was basically a DEI hire for the dwarves. Yeah. So there there there was every race under the sun and every size and every whatever. It was, you know, you know, but that that pissed off the dwarf community. Oh, yeah.
[00:26:30] Jamon Fries:
And I mean, so they they rely on these kinds on those kinds of movies for good jobs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[00:26:38] Jesse Fries:
yeah. It it's been all crazy. And then you have the wicked, wicked actress who got pissed off that somebody changed the, the move the movie poster to make it look more like the, the Broadway poster. God. And she just went off saying how horrible this person was and everything like that. And so now some people have said, I'm not gonna watch it just because of that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No.
[00:27:10] Jamon Fries:
The the actors the actors and actresses seem to be really getting extremely unhinged lately.
[00:27:17] Jesse Fries:
Some of them have. Some of them have. Yeah. But when when it comes to like that, I saw this one. I can't remember if it was up article or whatnot, or a TikTok. But it was, that that Snow White, lady. I can't remember what her name is. But basically Mhmm. Jenna Ortega, you know, the girl that plays Wednesday, on the Netflix show Wednesday? Well, apparently, she's been taking over a lot of the roles that that lady had. And now she's met Jenna Ortega for taking her roles. But Jenna Ortega, she's just minding her own business, Just working hard, like, and going through life, you know. If somebody decides that they don't wanna work with you,
[00:27:59] Jamon Fries:
you have to expect them to bring in somebody else.
[00:28:03] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. And if you cause too much trouble, people won't go with you. Yeah.
[00:28:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It's not like they're gonna stop production on their on their movie or whatever because you're suddenly unavailable.
[00:28:14] Jesse Fries:
Well well, no. What it was is, well, not unavailable. Apparently, she had a whole lot of jobs in the pipeline for Disney. And Disney just kept slowly taking one away, then the next, then the next, then the next, then the next to where now all she has is Snow White. She has nothing she was gonna do some voice acting and whatnot, and Disney just kept taking things away from her. So
[00:28:36] Jamon Fries:
that's that's kinda what happens. I'd I'd be upset too, but I'd be upset at Disney. I wouldn't be upset at anyone else. Well,
[00:28:45] Jesse Fries:
some people blame the person that took it. So yeah. Some people blame the person that took it, you know. It's like, you should know better. Yeah. You know, it's all human for
[00:28:55] Jamon Fries:
It's like the scabs that cross union lines. Uh-huh. You know, the unions get so pissed at them. These are people that are unemployed. They're not part of the union, so it's good. So they're not affected by what the union's doing. Yep. And they want money, so they go in and work. I mean, it just makes sense. If you're not gonna work, I'll go and do it for you.
[00:29:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're willing to let people view you in a negative light, I I have more power to you. You know? So Yep. Let's see. What else you got?
[00:29:35] Jamon Fries:
The FDA is taking a whole bunch of, cold medicines off the shelves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The PE stuff. Yep. Yep. Yeah. They found out that, completely ineffective. It does nothing.
[00:29:50] Jesse Fries:
No. It does actually, but it it's It not not if it's taken orally. It it it does a little bit. It it says 1% of the drug actually gets into the system. So so to me, it's like, well, why don't you just up the dose then? Just say it. You know? It's, just up the dose. Well, I mean, for yeah. From from what I read,
[00:30:14] Jamon Fries:
it's completely ineffective. It doesn't do anything at all, the oral stuff, because the because it, like, breaks down in in your stomach.
[00:30:24] Jesse Fries:
Well, I I understand. I understand. But I actually use the PE stuff. So Yeah. And it's I I use just Sudafed PE, and it helps. It it does. I it could be just a a placebo effect. I don't know. Wait. It could be, I don't care if it helps it. I don't care if it's placebo or not. You know? Yep.
[00:30:47] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. They they say that this that, like, the nasal spray and stuff like that works works just the with the way it's intended to, but the pills and but the pills and then, like, NyQuil, it doesn't it doesn't do what it's supposed to do and stuff like that. See see the problem is is that the stuff that actually works
[00:31:05] Jesse Fries:
to get that, because it can be used in meth making. Yep. So you have to go it's technically over the counter, technically. Yeah. But you have to go to the pharmacist. And if you ask for it, the pharmacist is go looking at you, go in your fucking meth dealer. You just wanna make the meth. This is how they look at you. It's like Yeah. I once I went to get some, I got, some for myself, and then I got kids for my kids, you know? And Yeah. The look on his fucking face, dude, I swear to God. Yeah. It's like stop. Stop being such a asshole. Plain and simple. And this is how all these pharmacists deal with it. It's like, this is your job. Yeah. Plain and simple. Just give me what I want. You know? I could get as much as I want.
[00:31:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. This is an over well, I don't think in some places, you can't even get as much as you want. Some places have limits on how much I can sell. Get. You know? You you can't find mass quantities, of course. But for your personal
[00:32:07] Jesse Fries:
use, you know, a pack Oh, yeah. Pack or 2? Come on. Yep. It it Yeah. Especially during cold and flu season. It's like, just take it off the thing if you're gonna have a too much problem with it.
[00:32:18] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If if you if if you wanna if you wanna get rid of it, get rid of it. You know what I mean?
[00:32:27] Jesse Fries:
Don't make me feel like a criminal just for wanting what is the over the counter drug.
[00:32:32] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Mhmm. Makes absolute sense, but, you know, well, that's probably why it doesn't happen because it makes too much sense.
[00:32:41] Jesse Fries:
And it actually does work. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Even though it makes me feel funny, I don't like it. But, it's, Yep. Let's see. What else is oh, I have another drug, related one. Ozempic. So this lady where's the story? Come on. Pop up. I don't know why it's not But basically, there's this lady, she was on Ozempic. And then just and she lost, like, £7, like, a whole £7, apparently. And it got too expensive. And then she gained £16 after she went off of it.
[00:33:22] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's how it works.
[00:33:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I'm not never gonna take it. You know, it's like I'm a bit overweight, but it's no. Not worth it. My my,
[00:33:35] Jamon Fries:
my GP is now telling me that they wanna put me on that instead of instead of the, metformin for my prediabetes.
[00:33:47] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:33:48] Jamon Fries:
They wanna put me on Ozempic for that. And I'm like, with everything that I've heard about Ozempic, I think I'm gonna just have to follow mom's rule. Well, we do. Been on the market for 20 years, I'm not taking it.
[00:34:06] Jesse Fries:
That makes sense. That does make sense.
[00:34:09] Jamon Fries:
I mean, with all the because they've had there's so many health issues that happened because of Ozempic.
[00:34:14] Jesse Fries:
Well, I mean Actually, the drug has been on the market for that long. It's it's technically generic. So Yeah.
[00:34:22] Jamon Fries:
But they don't sell it in their own countries.
[00:34:28] Jesse Fries:
What do you mean?
[00:34:30] Jamon Fries:
No. The the the country the a lot of the a lot of the places that we get Ozempic from are from outside of the US. Ah, okay. And those countries have it on the list of medications that should never be taken.
[00:34:45] Jesse Fries:
I did not know that. Yeah. It kinda makes sense.
[00:34:51] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Mhmm. There is Because I mean, it causes all well, I mean, yeah, it paralyzes your stomach essentially is what it does. Yep. Yep. Which means that the food doesn't move the way it's supposed to, which means it gets stuck Mhmm. Which causes massive problems.
[00:35:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It can. It really can. The side effects on it can be brutal and deadly. Oh, yeah. It's, yep. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have to be on a level rest of your life. That's the thing. It's it's a lifetime thing. Once you go off Yeah. Apparently, you get cravings like nobody's business. Oh, yeah. That just are not controllable. So
[00:35:27] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. I mean, it so yeah. In the countries that that that produce most of it, they can't sell it there. It'll it's pretty much only sold here in the US.
[00:35:38] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. That is interesting. Yeah. I did not know that. I did not know that.
[00:35:46] Jamon Fries:
You know? Which is funny because you see so many other stories of going well, you know, the United States is the only one who does this, and we're stupid for doing it because we're the only ones to do it.
[00:35:57] Jesse Fries:
You know, like, all the dies and whatnot that the RFK Jr wants to get rid of and everything like this. It's like, Okay. So that's stupid. But this one over here, it makes me thin, so it's okay. You know? It's Yeah.
[00:36:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So it's you know, there is all sorts of stuff like that going on. So
[00:36:20] Jesse Fries:
Interesting. Interesting. Yeah.
[00:36:25] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So I I have chosen not to go on to the Ozempic. No. I can understand. That makes sense. That makes sense. I I forgot about one that was kinda political.
[00:36:36] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:36:37] Jamon Fries:
As of 4 days ago, they're still counting votes and still having new ballot drops in some states.
[00:36:46] Jesse Fries:
Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. I I I see that in the overall vote, his lead has dropped to, like, 1.6% or something like that in the the he he he's won the electoral. No problem. But in the Yeah. Actual they're gonna try to make it seem like he didn't get the majority is what I'm thinking. Yeah.
[00:37:07] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, up in Wisconsin, they had a they had a ballot drop where, you know, if if it were if it were to make any sense
[00:37:19] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:37:20] Jamon Fries:
Based on the ways that the people voted, it should be at most 60 to 65% Harris versus Trump Right. In, like, in Chicago or something like that in in the major cities. Uh-huh. But this this dump in in in Wisconsin had, like, 25,000 votes for Kamala
[00:37:50] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:37:51] Jamon Fries:
And 2,000 for Trump. Odd. And that that's why all these ballot dumps are going. It's like 5 to 10% for the Republican, 90 to 95% for the Democrat of is is what the is what every ballot dump is getting. Yeah. They're trying to change the house and the senate is basically what they're trying to do, I think. Well, yeah, in, in California District 45. So they they they started voting on the 5th. They started counting on the 5th. Uh-huh. As of 15th, the Democrat finally took the lead by
[00:38:31] Jesse Fries:
30,
[00:38:37] Jamon Fries:
by, like, 3036 points
[00:38:40] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:38:42] Jamon Fries:
By by 36 votes. That was good. They were suddenly ready to stop counting.
[00:38:48] Jesse Fries:
And then they were ready to stop counting.
[00:38:53] Jamon Fries:
That sounds about right. That sounds about right. I mean, they they were getting bell they were getting ballot dumps every day from 5th to 15th.
[00:39:02] Jesse Fries:
Jesus Christ. I swear to god. I mean,
[00:39:05] Jamon Fries:
I I I had heard somewhere that California had a law that that they had to accept ballots up to 7 days out. Uh-huh. Well, 15th is 10 days out. So those those last 3 days, those shouldn't count.
[00:39:21] Jesse Fries:
It was probably business days.
[00:39:27] Jamon Fries:
Probably. And the, you know, the the the the funny thing about it is that most of these dumps happen at, like, 3 AM.
[00:39:39] Jesse Fries:
Always? Yep. It's kinda sketchy that way.
[00:39:43] Jamon Fries:
And they say they're coming in from the post office, but
[00:39:47] Jesse Fries:
I don't know if they're gonna go to the
[00:39:49] Jamon Fries:
grocery. Delivers at 3 AM. Exactly. I know. And and they they do in the building, you know, the mail sorting and stuff like that. The the truck drivers do, you know, the the ones that, you know, the the ones that are bringing the mail from, like, Kansas City to Denver or something like that. They're operating during the night, but not not the actual delivery man. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. They're union. There's no way in hell the union would let them do that.
[00:40:18] Jesse Fries:
It's all a bit fishy.
[00:40:20] Jamon Fries:
Just saying. Really is. Yeah. Yep.
[00:40:23] Jesse Fries:
I'm not saying anything is the Republicans. I'm just saying it's fishy.
[00:40:27] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. But, of course, the Republicans saw the election. So yeah.
[00:40:32] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I love the one about, using Starlink. Yes. That one is hilarious.
[00:40:38] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. And, you know, I've I've also been just, I was perusing through Twitter through x earlier today. And, you know, they used to say that conservatives would start a civil war if Trump lost.
[00:41:01] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:41:03] Jamon Fries:
Now I'm starting to see a whole bunch of liberals saying that we need to start a civil war so that we can preserve our democracy.
[00:41:15] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. That's how it goes. Since then. How it goes. Yeah. No. It is crazy how it's you know, we're all alike. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Crazy is as crazy does, you know, and there's crazy on all sides.
[00:41:37] Jamon Fries:
Well, you know, it just to me, it really the fact that these people are that that they're so afraid of Trump being in office, thinking that he's gonna take away all their rights, he's going to bring back slavery, he's going to never allow another election again or anything like that. Yeah. All of that shit comes straight from the politicians in the media's mouth. Oh, it does. It does. It does. I mean, if they if they weren't they spent all of their time trying to foment so much fear during during the election, during the while they were running for election Mhmm. That they completely forgot to even talk about what their policies were.
[00:42:27] Jesse Fries:
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[00:44:42] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:44:44] Jesse Fries:
So with that, I came across this thing. It was a article that said it was from Bloomberg Businessweek, and the article was entitled why tech billionaires love the author of Jurassic Park, Michael Crichton. You know, Michael Crichton, he's a great author. Right? Or was. He's dead now. Yeah. I think. Right? Yep. But, basically, apparently, one thing that a lot of tech billionaires, even if they disagree on so many other things, apparently, what they can agree with is, that they like Michael Crichton, apparently. And in there, it talked about this one thing that Michael Crichton came up with, this one theory.
It's called the Gell Mann Amnesia Effect. What this is, it's, this this will be quoted from, Michael Creighton. He gave it during the lecture or something like that. But what he said was briefly briefly stated the Gell Mann amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on any on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and you see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often the article is so wrong, it actually presents the story backwards. Reversing cause and effect, it I call this the wet streets cause rain stories, and papers are full of them. So you get that, wet streets cause rain. It's not the rain causing the wet streets. It's the wet street. Yeah.
[00:46:29] Jamon Fries:
He goes on to say,
[00:46:30] Jesse Fries:
in any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story. And then you turn the page to the National or International Affairs, and you read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow accurate about Palestine, than or was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and you forget what you know. Hence, the amnesia part of that. So, basically, if you know the subject right? Right? So, basically, if you know a subject, you realize all the errors in that newspaper, but you you'll believe everything else in that newspaper, which is it's the truth. It's the truth.
[00:47:15] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That absolutely does happen all the time.
[00:47:18] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And so when it comes to the news media just spouting, as you were talking about, you know, it's it's just because you believe them. You you don't know you don't even know why you believe them. You know? It's
[00:47:32] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Well, it's a reputable source. They wouldn't lie.
[00:47:38] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Because, yeah, I saw this other one, that when he went on to say at one point, I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. So this whole effect, it only is for news media. It doesn't happen anywhere else. Right. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. Yeah. So basically, a liar is a liar, and you're not gonna believe anything they say. Right?
[00:48:07] Jamon Fries:
Yep.
[00:48:08] Jesse Fries:
Okay. In court, he goes on, there is a legal doctrine of falses in uno, falses in omnibus, which means truthful in one part or untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. So So if you lie on the stand, you can't really believe anything that they say on the stand.
[00:48:27] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.
[00:48:30] Jesse Fries:
But then he goes on to say, but when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper, when in fact it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia. Yeah.
[00:48:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I found it. Yeah. That makes absolute sense. It's amazing how so many people get amnesia with the media. And I I don't know how many times I've, you know, talking to talking to people or something, and they're talking about this, this news or this, you know, thing that they were talking about on, like, NBC or something like that. Mhmm. And then the very next day, they see a news report that's the exact opposite. Now that's the gospel truth.
[00:49:20] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Or they'll just hear the one and then the media will hide the one that kinda disproves it, and then you only remember the other one. Yep. Yep. And the media can really fuck with us pretty well.
[00:49:34] Jamon Fries:
Oh, they do a good job of it too.
[00:49:38] Jesse Fries:
They really do. They really do. On all sides. Oh, completely. Completely. I yeah. I I'm just throwing pretty much all media under the bus on that one. Yep. It's, even us podcasters. Except for us, of course, Raymond. You know? Well, of course not. I mean, we would never do something like that. Never. Never. Never. We have no biases. None. I mean,
[00:50:01] Jamon Fries:
if if I say something wrong, it's because, well, the place that I got the information from was flawed.
[00:50:08] Jesse Fries:
Of course. Not your interpretation or anything like that. Oh,
[00:50:11] Jamon Fries:
no. No. No. My my interpretations are always spot on. Yeah. I'm I'm like dad. You know? I made a mistake one day. I thought I was wrong.
[00:50:29] Jesse Fries:
Or or or this or the song that, dad loves. Oh, lord. It's hard to be humble, but I'm perfect every way every way. I added that to my list just so I remembered that.
[00:50:42] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. Great song.
[00:50:48] Jesse Fries:
It it really is. It really is. Let's see. What what tech do you got? What? Tech news? Got a
[00:50:58] Jamon Fries:
yeah. There's a, new company started out just, over in, Kansas City, Missouri Mhmm. That is doing something that no one else has ever been able to that nobody else they've either never been able to or they've never attempted to do this before. So the process of making the, making parts for, like, hypersonic jets and stuff like that, you know, it needs to be able to to withstand a lot of heat if it goes hypersonic.
[00:51:31] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:51:33] Jamon Fries:
And what they normally do to make those parts is they fire they they they basically, like, meld it. They they form it into shape, and then they cook it for, like, 4 or 5 days.
[00:51:46] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:51:49] Jamon Fries:
This new company is 3 d printing it.
[00:51:54] Jesse Fries:
And it's just as effective? Yeah.
[00:51:58] Jamon Fries:
Nice. Nice. Because the fire the firing happens with within the creation of this of the 3 d printing, so it's every single aspect of it is getting fired so it doesn't have to bake in.
[00:52:10] Jesse Fries:
Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
[00:52:12] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. The only limiting the only problem they have right now is they're they're just a brand new startup. Mhmm. So they can only handle small parts right now. They'll have to really scale up their sizes before they can start doing larger parts.
[00:52:25] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. That's business. You know, that's how it goes. Yeah. So Absolutely.
[00:52:29] Jamon Fries:
But, based on some of the projections that that the, that TechCrunch, the the, website that I found it on, has is that it's it should start dropping the prices of that of that material quite significantly as well as make it so that there's a lot more of it handy. So, yeah, they'll so they'll they'll be able to really do a lot more in the industries. And it's it'll it doesn't it's not just for hypersonic jets. It's basically any ballistic missile, any sing single stage missile. Mhmm. Also for, satellites, for, for rocket for for the engines the rocket engines and stuff that are used up in space. Uh-huh. So, I mean, there there's lots of different different things that it can be used for. But, yeah, the they started out they started out with a contract with the Department of Defense to to build to build it quickly for the for the DOD. So
[00:53:34] Jesse Fries:
that's cool. That is cool. Yep.
[00:53:38] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So that's pretty that that I thought that was pretty interesting. Oh, yeah. And speaking of speaking of rockets, you know, Elon Musk, the SpaceX launched the launched their, Starship's number 6 test yesterday.
[00:53:55] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay. Nice. Nice. Yep. There you go. They weren't they
[00:54:02] Jamon Fries:
they parts of it did, parts of it didn't. Okay. There was there was some conjecture that because of how well the last test went with the, starship module, the part that actually went into space. Uh-huh. They called the the rocket is called starship, and the module is called starship. So, you know, it really gets confusing. Not helpful. No. No. Not at all. So so when you say Starship, you're like, okay. So which part? But, so the module that went up into space last time, they were able to land it pretty much where they wanted it wanted to. And so there was some conjecture that that that it would be a possibility that they might try to go for a catch again with with that count with that one this time around. Oh, okay. But they they opted not to do that. They they went with a, very soft landing and, and I mean, they they have, like they they have again, they had buoys set up with video cameras.
I think this time the picture was a lot more stable, so they may have actually had a boat out there. It's all good. And it was I mean, it came down and just, like, it just a very, very soft landing into the water. Unfortunately, the, the the booster the the, the first stage rocket, they didn't end up being able to do a capture on that. There there were some, they got some some, results back from the tests that were run that made it said it they just chose that it was would be a lot safer to Okay. Land it in the Gulf of Mexico. So the but the one thing that they were able to do is they for the first time, they were actually able to fire the engine on the Starship module while it was up in space. Okay. Cool. Nice. Nice.
Yeah. So that's, so there there were pluses and there were minuses, but,
[00:55:57] Jesse Fries:
and it it seems to be going on track for the most part, though. Nice. Nice. I saw that they they're scheduled where they're wanting to be able to do, like, 4 or 500 a year or something like that of Starship, like send that many up. So Yep. That's kinda crazy. That'd be kinda cool.
[00:56:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Oh, and then which is why they which is why they wanna catch both both parts. Yep. Now they they do also have to put landing gear on the on the module itself because when it goes to Mars, there's not gonna be any chopstick. There's not gonna be that maxilla thing to catch them. So they have to be all land on the ground.
[00:56:34] Jesse Fries:
True. True. Yeah. But okay. I I I don't know what part will go or how anything like that. So Yeah. I I don't know how that mission is fully designed yet. So Yep. Let's see here. Got anything else tech or
[00:56:56] Jamon Fries:
is that about it? No. That's that's all I've got.
[00:56:59] Jesse Fries:
Okay. You got nothing else?
[00:57:01] Jamon Fries:
Nope.
[00:57:02] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Well, I have a couple things here. Not tech or anything like that. Let's see here. I I ran across this, one article. It's about wokeness. Mhmm. You know, being woke and everything like that. So this guy, Musa Alagharbi, he written a book. It's a new, it's called We Have Never Been Woke. And and I found the article interesting. It was basically just a review of the book, but, so what I'm taking is from a review of the book. So, you know, anyways Yeah. But what kind of his argument is that all these, he he calls them, moments in history where people just, become woke per se, not necessarily exactly woke as we know it, but just in their ways.
But he says that, basically, all these are caused by people that work with their minds and not with their hands. He calls these something like pseudo capitalists.
[00:58:11] Jamon Fries:
Mhmm.
[00:58:13] Jesse Fries:
And basically, the it's caused these awakenings are caused because the new and upcoming, people that are going through trying to establish themselves, while they're trying to establish themselves, they go through an upheaval that causes them to lose out on their aspirations. So examples of this would be, like, the great depression caused, he says, the first one. So, basically, a lot of people were coming out of college and everything like that, and they were the thinkers and everything like that. And then the great depression happened, and then basically everybody was shit out of luck. Right?
And so they lost out on that. And so that caused, wokening is, what he says. Then he says that the next one was, the draft during Vietnam War.
[00:59:12] Jamon Fries:
Okay.
[00:59:13] Jesse Fries:
And basically, so all these kids, that had gone to school, which are generally the people that, work with their minds, not their hands. So for a while, you know, they had the exemption from the draft because they're in school. You know, like dad and everything like that. Right? Mhmm. And then they ended that. Right? They ended that exemption. And so he says that that ending of that exemption caused another awakening, with basic people really starting to go more heavily against the war, going more into environmentalist, going into, racial politics and everything like that, because they felt like the world was collapsing around them, and, they couldn't get what they wanted.
Then he says there was a third one, and this was in the late eighties to early nineties. You know, that dip in the economy, around George Bush the first? Yep. And then he said but he said that one just kinda caused what was going to happen later. And then the last one that has happened is, well, the woke crap that we've been going through lately. You know? Also, the me two movement and everything like that. He says all that is tied to it. And he says that this time, it's not due to economy or anything like that that actually caused the issue. It's actually that we have too many highly educated people to go around, and there's not enough jobs.
Yep. And so all these people are trying to vie for, these other jobs. And he's goes on to say that, basically, all this happens because that there are unrealized goals. Right? And so Mhmm. These people that have unrealized goals, they tend to align themselves with marginalized minorities. And then they will stress those social ills as a way to actually advance themselves. So, basically, they're going woke so that they can go get ahead. Not that they actually care, even though they say they do and they probably they might believe they do. But in all essence, he's saying they're actually it's an economic force. I think this guy is Marxist as in everything is caused by, economic factors.
Okay. And so, basically, he's saying that that is why, people have gone woke. So
[01:01:48] Jamon Fries:
I don't know. I don't quite buy that.
[01:01:52] Jesse Fries:
How so?
[01:01:54] Jamon Fries:
Well, I mean, if if that were the case, if it were apparently I cannot if it were different based on economic means and it was people that were that couldn't find work in in you know, they couldn't find the the work that they were trained to do Uh-huh. Through from through college, the wokeness wouldn't have started in the colleges because there's there's no they're not in they're not, you know, they're they're not not working in the field that they got that they studied for. They're still studying for these fields and hoping that there's gonna be jobs out there. So you see, it's not that it's not that they couldn't find jobs in their field.
It's, I mean, it's
[01:02:47] Jesse Fries:
No. Actually, Jaeme, I I I disagree with you on that because just going through, going for my master's and everything like that, the one thing I learned going through that, the one thing I heard is there's no jobs. Okay. There's no jobs. There's 300 people applying for one job. There's a 1000 people applying for 2 jobs. This
[01:03:16] Jamon Fries:
you know, so it's like Well, see, in in that case, I blame the colleges.
[01:03:21] Jesse Fries:
Well, you you can blame many other people, but what I'm saying is that it's you can blame the colleges. You can blame many aspects of society. And see, this is what this is what's wrong with just picking, going with a Marxist view of, of society
[01:03:40] Jamon Fries:
where it's all economics. There's so many things that go into it that you can't blame it all on economics.
[01:03:46] Jesse Fries:
No, exactly. Yep. But it it it it I some of it is economics and I could see where economic this type of economics would play a role because they're trying to figure out what went wrong and everything like that. So they try to help the marginalized. And then with that, they actually use that to actually gain a foothold in their own sphere that they wanna be in. I could really see that. I wouldn't see why not. So
[01:04:13] Jamon Fries:
Either either that or they're trying to create I I think it's more they're trying to create a new sphere for themselves
[01:04:20] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:04:21] Jamon Fries:
And trying to force it upon everybody else to accept their sphere. Well, yeah. Yeah. I think we're kinda saying the same. I mean, that that's what d that's what DEI was. I mean, that somebody came up with the thought of that and it's like, I
[01:04:36] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. D I could I could make some money doing this. Well, DEI, you know, it's like what some schools have, like, 400 people working for the DEI department. Yeah. Yeah. It's like and those jobs did not exist ever before. So so actually, you could you could see that the you could see the argument there then. You know, they actually did actually create their own jobs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
[01:05:00] Jamon Fries:
so yeah. I think I mean, I think that's what the well clean was. Yeah. No. Absolutely. Yeah. I did there's some very good ideas in there. I mean, I I don't buy it all as the entire means, but Right. Right. It it definitely would play a part.
[01:05:16] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. No. To to when when you narrow down anything into, like like just pure economic or pre or social, pure religious or whatever, you know. It's it it negates everything else in society, you know. So Yep.
[01:05:33] Jamon Fries:
Well, that would be that would be like a historian that was studying, say, medieval history.
[01:05:42] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[01:05:44] Jamon Fries:
That just completely discounted the fact that there was any other history out there. You know, if if they if their entire world circulated around medieval history and they weren't willing to accept any influences from the past or from or anything like that onto into what happened in the medieval hit in the medieval times, Right. That would essentially be the same. You know? You you you get so hyper focused on this one little thing that you completely
[01:06:13] Jesse Fries:
discount everything else. No. Which happens. Which happens. You you you come up with you you come up with this great thesis. And then anything that attacks that thesis and I've had professors this way to where they will not budge. It doesn't matter if you can prove that they're wrong or anything like that. They will not they will defend it to the grave just because Yep. Their whole job is dependent on the research Yeah. That they did on that one thing. Yep.
[01:06:44] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Oh, yeah. That's why that's why the that's why science has gotten now, you know. I I I I could I if you told me in 1993 that anyone was going to say, this is set science, so you can't say anything that doesn't agree with it. Right. I would have said you're a fucking nut.
[01:07:10] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Completely.
[01:07:13] Jamon Fries:
But now that's what it is.
[01:07:15] Jesse Fries:
It really is. It really is. It's like settled science. What there is no such thing as settled science.
[01:07:20] Jamon Fries:
No.
[01:07:23] Jesse Fries:
Never has been. You you you it's why they don't call anything laws anymore. You you know? There's the law of gravity and whatnot. So there are laws. But Yep. Even those laws have been broken so many times by, like, Einstein and everything like that. They showed the errors of them. And Yep. So now it is solely theory. They only say Yep. Theory. That the relativity theory, you know, not the law of relativity. It's the theory of relativity. You you know, there's no they know there's no such thing. Evolution. Exactly.
Yeah. The theory of evolution that even though it's basically it's set. Look. We know it. Look at everything. This is yeah. But If if you say anything again if you say anything against evolution,
[01:08:11] Jamon Fries:
you're some bible dumping nut. Generally, yes. But you seem like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And most of them are. I mean, I I won't deny that.
[01:08:22] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Especially, it's like with evolution. It's like, well, we we've seen it happen. We're like, we've actually seen it happen as a species. It it it's like, no. It's like, okay. Whatever. Move out of life. But Yeah. It's
[01:08:37] Jamon Fries:
see, for for me with evolution, I I firmly agree that there is microevolution. I have yet to see any proof of macroevolution, though.
[01:08:47] Jesse Fries:
Well, the micro adds to the macro. You know, the the the that's generally how it's, viewed.
[01:08:53] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. But I but I mean, you know, there there's always you know, there's there there's 2 like, say for the with the evolution of the human being. Uh-huh. There's too many very large jumps where they can't find anything that's across between.
[01:09:11] Jesse Fries:
They they they keep finding more and more, but I I I understand your thought. I understand your thought. It it it it to me, it it it the absence of evidence doesn't mean that there's
[01:09:30] Jamon Fries:
doesn't mean that it's not true. You know? It's Right. Right. No. Absolutely. I I will not disagree with that because, you know, I mean, the flood may have complete the flood completely rearranged pretty much everything. You know? The the the big worldwide flood that we had. There there's a lot of conjecture that that
[01:09:48] Jesse Fries:
that really moved everything around, and it put stuff into different places than it than it should have been. Well, see, I don't even really I I I don't really even believe in that really. So, you know, it's a
[01:09:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, there's
[01:10:01] Jesse Fries:
yeah. I
[01:10:02] Jamon Fries:
The localized floods. Yes. But it's, They they say that they say that they can find that that they can find those the marking the making the evidence of the flood pretty much everywhere in the world.
[01:10:15] Unknown:
But So
[01:10:18] Jamon Fries:
my thought is, wouldn't it couldn't it have been local floods everywhere in the world?
[01:10:25] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They could have been many different things. It's hard to say. Yeah. It's, I'm sure there were floods everywhere because, well, that's what happens. You know?
[01:10:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. They they they also they also say as proof that every every single religion out there has a flood within its within its history. Right. Well, I mean, of course, there's so many fucking floods that happened almost every year across the world that, I mean, it would be shocking if they didn't have a major flood in their history. You know, it's like the the the religions that are gonna come out of North or South Carolina
[01:10:59] Jesse Fries:
North Carolina, wherever it is. I I'm sure they're gonna talk about the floods.
[01:11:03] Unknown:
Yep. Absolutely.
[01:11:05] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely. But yeah. No. So that's the for me though, I think the biggest reason that I don't quite support macroevolution just yet is, and this is purely scientific. It's it's a purely scientific reason. In order to prove something as scientific, you have to be able to repeat it. And and this day, it is absolutely impossible for to to take a one sing a single cell creature and have it become a multicell creature. It never happens. I I I'm I'm not I'm not arguing something. So that that's yeah. No. That that's that's the one argument that I have against evolution now. Okay. I've gotten Okay. I I've given up all my other arguments because, I mean, they they can't be proven. So, you know, I I like being factual.
And so
[01:12:05] Jesse Fries:
So basically, you just wave So for me, it's It's just you're you're you're you're just you're skeptical about evolution. It's not that you necessarily completely discount it. It's just that you're skeptical about it because you haven't actually seen, like, the macro level. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I could I I could see that. I I I think skepticism I I'm kind of a skeptic too. So,
[01:12:29] Jamon Fries:
I I don't think I will never completely discount anything. I understand. Yeah.
[01:12:34] Jesse Fries:
I I I think skepticism is prove it to me wrong. Skepticism kinda makes sense to me. You know, I'm kinda skeptical about religion. So, you know, it's it's just what I have. Yeah. It's Well, I mean It's like people go, oh, don't don't you see all this all these don't you see the miracles every day? I go, no. I see a tree. I see a sunset. This is just what it is. It's it's not there's no miracle here, you know. Exactly. It's like, oh, a baby being born is a miracle. I go, no. It really isn't. It's just it's it's nature. This is how animals breed. I don't know what else to say about it. You know? So some people see the miracle in everything. And then Yeah. Some people like me don't see a miracle in anything. You know? So Yeah.
Let's see here. I mean
[01:13:25] Jamon Fries:
yeah. I'm kind of the same way, but I still believe. I'm I'm still fairly religious.
[01:13:31] Jesse Fries:
I understand. I understand. No problem. Because I don't need to see it to believe it. No. That that's fine. I I'm a skeptic, so I need to see it. I'm, like, down in Thomas. Let's see here. So, the last story I will have, is, looks like the UK labor government is trying to screw over the farmers over there. Yes. Yeah. With the inheritance tax. Yeah. So there's so many I was there's so many stories. I was like pro labor or anti labor, you know. It's like I I don't know which way it actually boils down to, but, you know, why you try to screw over the farmers? I I and the and farmers in Europe, they protest. These people protest. It's not like farmers here in the US. Oh, no. No. The farmers here in the US are kind of lazy. They, they, they, they go, you want me to protest? Not, not doing I'm, I'm good at work in the field. Over there, they'll, they'll just let everything go to crap and
[01:14:29] Jamon Fries:
protest. So. You you may find the odd farmer that'll drive his tractor towards the towards the government building or something like that here in the US. But yeah. No. Never a mass protest. No. Maybe it's because we're just too damn big. Maybe that's it. It could be. It could be. It's it's like
[01:14:47] Jesse Fries:
driving a tractor to DC. Holy hell, dude.
[01:14:53] Jamon Fries:
Especially if you're in, like, Montana.
[01:14:55] Jesse Fries:
No. Exactly. Yeah. Minnesota, Montana. You know? It's like Yep. Dude, this thing can go, like, 30 miles an hour at max speed.
[01:15:04] Jamon Fries:
It's gonna be a little Pennsylvania, it'd be hell driving a tractor to to DC.
[01:15:10] Jesse Fries:
It would. Okay. Let's get this tractor through that tunnel. Let's do it.
[01:15:14] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That's a I I was, watching a video about, this guy that he he bought some farmland, said he could go shooting and stuff like that. Yeah. It's it's,
[01:15:32] Jesse Fries:
Corbin. Yeah.
[01:15:34] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And and and so I watched I watched an interview of him with the BBC.
[01:15:40] Jesse Fries:
Oh, it was hilarious, the kind of questions the BBC was asking them. I saw that same interview. He's going, you BBC, this is what's wrong.
[01:15:48] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yeah. I I found it very interesting that in in the UK, 96% of the population does not pay an inheritance tax. Yep. Which, you know, they they claim that they're they claim that the farm is the that that people buy farmland to get away from the inheritance tax, but 96% of the the British people do not own farms. So who are the other loopholes that they go through? And there is obviously a lot of loopholes.
[01:16:24] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And then the interview percent of the people actually pay it. Yeah. And then that interview in, other speeches he gave, it's like, when he bought the farm, he goes, yeah. It's just a lark. You know? And and then he goes, then I started farming. Dude, this is expensive. Yep. Yep. You you know? So Absolutely. It's like so even if you have, like, after taxes after all the exemptions are given and everything like that, you just have to pay back, what, the 20% on something to where it's like you have to pay, like, a $170,000 over 10 years. But to a farmer, they're working on some very small margins, like tiny margins Yep. To where that and you can so you have a $170,000 have to pay, but you can pay that back over 10 years. So that's 17 k a year.
But Yeah. When you're working on small margins, that's pretty much impossible. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, and and it's farming. So there's good years, there's bad years. There's no consistent years when it comes to farming. No. There there isn't. No. So yeah. There seems to be this whole thing in the European area, since the UK. I don't know how they view themselves as being Europe part of the EU or how that all equals out to be anymore. But anyways, in that whole area, they they really don't seem to appreciate farmers. They really don't seem to appreciate farmers. No. Farmers don't. It's kinda weird. We're getting there too, though. We are. But I love farmers. Farmers are the greatest. So that's people who eat. Yep. Yep. Yep. They feed us. We need them.
[01:17:59] Jamon Fries:
We need them. Without them, we die.
[01:18:01] Jesse Fries:
Exactly.
[01:18:02] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean, without them, any you know, without them, anyone that lives in a large town or a city is dead Yep. Within within weeks Mhmm. If all of these farmers suddenly disappeared. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, we we need our farmers very badly.
[01:18:25] Jesse Fries:
We really do. Go farming. Woo hoo. Yep. Well, thank you for joining us for episode 12 of the Mindless Meanderings podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.
[01:18:37] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:18:39] Jesse Fries:
And you guys have a great week.
Introduction
Politics: Ukraine and Russia Tensions
International Incidents: Communication Cable Cut
White House Correspondents and Media Dynamics
Texas Legislation and Political Updates
Whoopi Goldberg and Public Incidents
FDA and Drug Regulations
Ozempic and Health Concerns
Election and Voting Controversies
Media Influence and Public Perception
Tech Innovations and Space Exploration
Wokeness and Societal Changes
UK Inheritance Tax and Farmers
