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(00:00:21) Introduction

(00:00:42) Football Game Controversies

(00:03:51) Political Pardons and Legal Debates

(00:10:05) Supreme Court Case on Transgender Laws

(00:14:52) Health and Medicine Discussions

(00:24:01) Cybersecurity Concerns

(00:28:17) Clean Energy Loans and Economic Policies

(00:36:02) International Politics and Conflicts

(00:46:29) Sports News and Controversies

(01:03:11) International Protests and Political Changes

(01:11:47) Technology and Business Innovations

(01:24:56) Tipping Culture and Economic Observations

https://mindlessmeanderings.com/episodepage/14

[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, December 4th, and we are live with episode number 14 of the mindless meanderings.   I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas,   where   it's a bit drizzly outside, actually. Just, hopefully, it rains a little bit more.  

[00:00:43] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamon Furiz coming at you from eastern Texas from eastern Kansas. Texas.   Yeah. Where where once again well, you know, you said Kansas, I think, last week or the week before that. So I had to I had to mess up somewhere, but,   where Kansas City Chiefs once again   just miraculously   win   and had nothing to do with them themselves.  

[00:01:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's really how it was. That is how it was. It was,   yeah, 2 teams,   lines for me and the chiefs for you, got lucky. Yeah.   Well, thanksgiving for   the lions and then Friday for the chiefs.  

[00:01:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It was amazing how there were so many people that were saying, you know, that the ref screwed it up. They screwed up the call. Uh-huh. But they all a lot of people wanted that to have been,   offensive offsides.   Right. Because that would have reset the play instantly. You know? The the   the   the Chiefs wouldn't have gotten the ball from the from their fumble recovery. Well, their   their backward pass recovery.   Uh-huh. But,   after looking at it again,   I I know that it can't be because nobody on the line moved.   Mhmm. Nobody on the line moved at all. They were they just that they were all down and set and that the the snap just came out of nowhere.  



[00:02:12] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. It just came out of the the yeah. It was the hiker. He the center. He he completely   messed it up.   That's all that was. No.   Well, he he had the ball, nobody was ready.  

[00:02:26] Jamon Fries:

Yes. The reason that that happened though is,   in in   on almost every team when you're when you're   center is down in the in in a set position,   it's very hard for him to see the quarterback.   And as loud as can as as loud as stadiums get when you're the visiting team,   they can't hear the quarterback either.   And so what happens is the guard reaches out the guard will look back to see if the quarterback and everybody is ready, and then he'll reach over and he'll tap the center.   Uh-huh. That tells the center that everybody's ready for the snap.  

[00:03:01] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:03:02] Jamon Fries:

So the guard tapped the center,   and the center hiked the ball even though the quarterback wasn't ready for a hit.   Ah, so it wasn't guard that's with hits it's the guard. It's not the center.  

[00:03:14] Jesse Fries:

Okay. I it was   interesting. Interesting.   Yeah. Yeah. I saw the center just swearing up a storm afterwards though. He was, like, fit all tied. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[00:03:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That was I'd be pissed too if somebody told me that that they were ready for the play to go. And so you snap the ball and that cost you the fucking game. Because, I mean, they were they were close enough that they could've gotten the field goal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they would've won them the game.   Yep. Yep. That's  

[00:03:45] Jesse Fries:

yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. That was a really bad mistake.   But, you know, not every mistake has consequences. You know, like Hunter Biden. You know? He just gets off. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[00:03:58] Jamon Fries:

Not only did he get away with this with the with the mistake that he was caught for, but he gets gets away with every single mistake that he has made for the last 11 freaking years.  

[00:04:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. What the hell is that shit? Seriously.   It's it's the longest   it's the biggest pardon of all time in the United States history. Yeah.   Yeah. Before that, it was Nixon,   but that was only, like, 4 or 5 or 6 year period, which is still a long time, but Yeah. Has to cover Watergate and everything like that. But   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. This is and it's car blanche, everything, no matter what he did. It's like, holy hell. What are you hiding? You you you have to know that they're hiding something huge.  

[00:04:42] Jamon Fries:

Oh, absolute.   Well, I mean,   there's so much in the news. Well, I mean, going all the way back to to well, the date pretty much the day that the pardon starts from.   You're   I mean, it it was there was so much there there was so much,   bribery and stuff like that going on with him and other countries, you know, China,   Ukraine.   Yep. I mean,   yeah. I mean, it it's just   yeah. No. I've I've   there have been a lot of people wondering if if that actually   is legitimate to do that.   Say that there are a lot of people who are saying that Trump can reverse it and all this other crap. I don't think he can. But No. No. And  

[00:05:30] Jesse Fries:

not that you wouldn't wanna start that.   You wouldn't wanna be the president to actually start that up because No. No. No. No. No. It it yeah. It opens up a bag of worms   that   nobody   wants.   Yeah. No. It it it was pardon, it's pardon.   Yeah. He he he it seems like he did everything illegal from that laptop, dealing with children and drugs and Oh, yeah. And this and that. Yeah. Yep. It it it's kinda crazy what,   apparently, he got away for with. Apparently, it's good to be rich and have your daddy be the most powerful man in the world, I guess. So  

[00:06:10] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Abs absolutely. Yeah. No.   There's a lot of memes and stuff like that out there about how now,   I guess not   everybody is   under the law.  

[00:06:22] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Yep. Yep.  

[00:06:25] Jamon Fries:

Because, you know, for the longest time, everybody's been saying,   Trump Trump can't get away with this. No one's above the law.   No one's above the law. No one's above the law. Well, I guess, sir, he's somebody who is.   Yep. Yeah.  

[00:06:41] Jesse Fries:

And, oh, where are the Democrats on this one? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was a political hit job. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The Biden's DOJ really put the political hit on his own son. Right? Yeah.   Sure. Yep.   Yep.   No. No. The Trump crap yeah. That is a political hit job. Well, at least most of it. Oh, yeah. So it's like yeah. Hopefully, thankfully, most of that's what we're done  

[00:07:05] Jamon Fries:

with. I saw one report that, was, in,   you know, you can't prove any of this, of course.   But   they were saying that the the only reason that the DOJ went after Hunter Biden   was that it would make it seem more legitimate that they were going after Trump.  

[00:07:24] Jesse Fries:

I could see that. I could see that. Because, yeah, he kept saying, no. I'm not gonna pardon. I'm not gonna pardon. I'm not gonna pardon. And his press secretary, that poor lady, she kept saying, he's not gonna pardon. He's not gonna pardon. And then all of a sudden,   oh, it's a complete car blanche, sort of.  

[00:07:42] Jamon Fries:

I I really feel sorry for his press secretary. I mean,   all of the shit that she's had to come out there and just I she she can't say anything about anything   because there's so much bad shit that goes on. She has to cover for everything.   Yeah. And she takes so much shit for it too. But I mean She does. And she's not the best at it. She she's okay.   I don't know. But she's yeah. She she's not the greatest, but No. She she takes way more shit for it than she since she actually should be. I mean,   if if you had to if you had to go up and defend   Biden   every freaking day of the week Yep. I'd run out of shit to say too.  



[00:08:27] Jesse Fries:

Well,   even Trump, come on. They they go after him like, do we have business to it? It's it's Absolutely. It's just like,   leave it alone sometimes. But yeah. Yeah. It's a but, like, this one this one's a huge one. It's like your party's sometimes. But yeah. Yeah.   It's a but, like, this one this one's a huge one. It's, like, you pardon your son of, like, everything. It's, like, okay. Well, that's, that's different. That is different. Yeah.   Now the the only the only thing that can happen to him now, you know,  

[00:08:50] Jamon Fries:

really   though, that shouldn't make   the current case from him, the head of him go away   because Yeah. This current case should well, no. His current case should not have been brought to the federal court.   It's a gun it's a gun violation. It should have been brought in front of the state court, which would have meant that he can't be pardoned from it. It's a it's it's a it's a federal  

[00:09:16] Jesse Fries:

issue. It's a federal law   of owning a gun   while   doing drugs and whatnot.   That is a federal law. That's not a state law.  

[00:09:28] Jamon Fries:

Really? Yep. So if you do drugs if you do drugs and you lie on the   I suppose because it's a government piece of paper that you lied on.   Yep. It's something that yeah. Okay.  

[00:09:42] Jesse Fries:

Yep. And all those background checks, those are all federal.   Yeah. That is true. Mhmm.   So yeah. It's all federal. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.   Yep. But he gets off.   Nope.  

[00:09:58] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. He gets away with any anything the federal court.   Yep. Yep. Speaking of the federal courts Okay. The, US Supreme Court is hearing a case today.  

[00:10:10] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:10:12] Jamon Fries:

I I'll never quite understand   why   any law against underage   transgender   operations and stuff like   that would be   why it would be a case for kid under   a,   sex discrimination   case.   How is that is how could that be a sex discrimination   case?  

[00:10:39] Jesse Fries:

Well, the Biden administration   basically says it's all sex and gender.   So they they basically dispute it. But  

[00:10:48] Jamon Fries:

sex discrimination   would be if you were preventing one gender from doing something and no no others. They are preventing all genders from doing it. Therefore, it's not discrimination.  

[00:11:02] Jesse Fries:

That's a good point. That's a good point, but I don't think that's their argument.   I think I think I mean, that that's Like, the actual argument. I think that's what there's  

[00:11:11] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   That that's what they actually brought the case in. That that's what they said that that that was happening. That's why they contested the law be was because it was sex discrimination.  

[00:11:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And I have to read their arguments and everything like that. But I know some of it was like,   you can use, like, puberty blockers,   in Tennessee   to just stop early,   puberty and things like that. Right. So why can't you do it for this and everything like that? So it's,   yeah. Yeah.   I kinda understand it. It's,   you know, I   when it comes to that, I think Tennessee should be able to do what they will.  

[00:11:55] Jamon Fries:

Leave the kids alone. Yeah. Plain and simple.   Yep.   Yeah. I mean, I I fully support Trump's idea that any anyone that's any minor should not be allowed to get the surgery done to them. Yeah. You know, I mean   you know, it it's something that you should do, one that you should do. If you if you feel like you if you feel like you need to do it, wait until you till you're an adult when you can make your own informed decision to do it.   And   the,   you know, I   just   I   yeah. That that's just that's my opinion on it. I also think that it's not something that,   that   we should be paying for. So it shouldn't be Medicare and Medicaid paying for it. Oh, yeah. It's an elect it's an elective surgery.  

Medicaid and Medicare don't pay for any other select any other   selective surgery surgery. I mean, if I were to lose all of my weight tomorrow   to remove this the extra skin from my body Uh-huh. Would not be covered by   by Medicare.  

[00:13:04] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:13:07] Jamon Fries:

Now they're kind of stupid for that because they they realize that, you know, the excess skin is a medical   problem. Uh-huh.   But and and the thing that I really dislike about that that that one is   they will pay for it if you underwent bariatric surgery to lose the weight.   But if you don't go through bariatric surgery to lose the weight, they won't pay for it.   That's really odd. That's really odd. It's, Yeah. Yeah. I thought I thought so too.  

[00:13:39] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That is odd. Well, because you did one surgery, that means the other surgery is   I don't know. It's like this Ozempic and everything like that. They're trying to make it so you can actually use Ozempic for, like, heart failure and everything like that. And if you can do that Yeah. Then you can put it under Medicaid and Medicare.   But otherwise, you can only not only heart failure, but they're also now saying that's a diet that it's a diabetes medicine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they they've been saying the diabetes for a long time. It's actually been used as that for a while. But,  

[00:14:12] Jamon Fries:

but it does nothing for diabetes.   It does. Yeah. But that's how it's been used. The only the only way the only way it does anything for diabetes   is it paralyzes your stomach so that your stomach can't process the sugars.   Oh, right. That's Yeah. That's   but it can't process anything at that point in time.   Well, picky, picky, picky. You know?  

[00:14:40] Jesse Fries:

Still can't process the sugar. That's the only thing that matters. You know? It's Yeah.   Yeah.  

[00:14:49] Jamon Fries:

Hell.   Yeah.  

[00:14:52] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Oh, speaking of weight, since we're kinda on that.   So   apparently, there's this new,   it's in on the Telegraph in the UK. But basically, it looks like   scientists and whatnot are wanting to stop using BMI   because, well, that's just Okay. Stupid.   But what they're   wanting to do is BRI,   which is body roundness index.  

[00:15:20] Jamon Fries:

Oh, god.  

[00:15:22] Jesse Fries:

So what this one does is it, you you measure yourself at the at the waist   around circumference wise, and then it's then it's a calculation between that and your height.  

[00:15:36] Jamon Fries:

And There's a huge problem with that, though. Uh-huh.   I know a lot of people   that   have, like,   1% body fat at most   that have a much bigger waist than someone else their height does.  

[00:15:53] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:

I I mean, you you can't go just off of a tape measure measurement because everybody's body is built differently.  

[00:16:02] Jesse Fries:

Well, it is. It is. But what they say is that they're trying to figure out how much visceral fat you have, like the fat inside the your organs and everything like that. Like, inside Well, yeah. No. I I So I understand  

[00:16:15] Jamon Fries:

that that's what that that needs to be measured, but simply using a tape measure around the waist, I if we take somebody say say you take 2 people the same height.   Jonathan,   you know, our brother. Right.   And,   like, somebody that's   built like a rock.  

[00:16:37] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:16:38] Jamon Fries:

They both may have 0   fat, but that measurement is going to be massively different.  

[00:16:45] Jesse Fries:

So so take it like Johnny versus,   The Rock, actual The Rock.  

[00:16:49] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   At the same height.   Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's the So so using that tape measure is it's  

[00:16:58] Jesse Fries:

it it can't measure anything. Well, I understand that. But what I think what they're trying to do is trying to figure out be because BMI   has its own problems.  

[00:17:08] Jamon Fries:

Like, mass problems. BMI only man only measures what is outside of the muscular of of the muscular portion of the body.   It only it only covers the fat that's on the outside, and there's absolutely nothing  

[00:17:22] Jesse Fries:

that that excess fat on the outside of the body does to harm your body. No. It it but but it's not even the fat. It's not even it's it's not even the fat, Jamin, though, because it it Yeah. BMI   takes   muscle into it and everything like that. So so, like   like, very like, people that have, like, basically zero body fat, but are muscular   can can be technically be obese   per, the BMI records and everything like that. And muscle   is   actually heavier than fat. So  

[00:17:55] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yeah. There there really is no   you you   it's impossible.   I mean, there there is   I take that back. There is one way that you could measure.   There's one way that you could figure out how much visceral fat there was versus outside fat. Uh-huh.   And that is   if you measure at the waist and then you measure up higher.   Because   on a on a person that has no visceral fat,   their waist is going to be would is norm for a male anyways. It's not quite the same for a female for most females.   But for a male, their waist is gonna be close to the same size as their stomach is.   You know? Right. We we don't have that curve that women have.  



[00:18:40] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:18:42] Jamon Fries:

So for men, you can weigh you can measure the waist and measure the stomach,   and the difference   is most likely visceral fat.  

[00:18:51] Jesse Fries:

That's an interesting way to do it.   But then also just For someone for someone my size, that won't work. But Yeah. Yeah. It would it would be closer to the   that'd only work for because people carry fat differently as well. You know, there's, like Yes. Yeah. There's people that have, like, the Harry Taft   stomach that just go like, everything is normal and there's, like, bloop   over the stomach. They look like the Harry Twins. Body.   Or   sure. I've never seen a pair like that, but, you know yeah.  

[00:19:24] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. That that's that's what they call a pear shape, buddy, because it's narrow at the top, and then it bulges out. That's it. Yeah. But I thought I thought pear shape was more like for women with the hips. You know? That's how I always imagined it. Not like the stomach going out. Yeah. No.   Yeah. Yeah.   Well, the the if you if you look into into   way back Uh-huh. They they always they said that there were 2 types of bodies. There was Right. There was the people that that put on weight like a pair Uh-huh. Where there was where they were normal sized up top and then starting from the stomach down, they bulged out.   And then there's people like an apple where they're just heavy everywhere.  

Like me, I'm an apple.  

[00:20:08] Jesse Fries:

Got it. Got it. Got it.   Who knew?   I   see here,   also looks like,   some   genome scientists have discovered 3,000 hidden genes   in our genome.  

[00:20:25] Jamon Fries:

Wow.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:20:29] Jesse Fries:

Quite interesting. It's,   which is even it's this is after, like, you know, how they did the human genome project,   that was completed back about 20 years ago. Yeah. This is they call these so called dark genes.   And they say that Dark genes. Dark genes. Yeah. Yeah.   And they say that,   they can help explain the processes like cancer and immune responses and things like that. So  

[00:20:59] Jamon Fries:

Okay.  

[00:21:00] Jesse Fries:

So basically, the human genome project did not get our genome is basically what I say.  

[00:21:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I I saw something regarding cancer.   Ivermectin supposedly is very, very useful against cancer for some reason. They never could figure out why. Right.   Because   it's   it kind of is a dewormer   of sorts. I mean, you got a lot of other stuff to it. It seems to be one of those drugs that's almost like  

[00:21:34] Jesse Fries:

it's like ever since COVID, everything almost yeah. They they they they're saying that it can basically, like, it's a cure all. You you know, it's like the Yeah. It's   it's almost to the level of,   what,   the snake oil   people were selling back in the 1800.  

[00:21:50] Jamon Fries:

You know? It's, Absolutely.   Yeah. But,   it's amazing. They they, I've I've seen some reports recently about how when you look in a microscope   at a really close detail   Uh-huh. It's almost impossible to tell the difference between a cancer cell and a parasitic egg.  

[00:22:11] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.  

[00:22:13] Jamon Fries:

In fact, there have been many people that were diagnosed with cancer where it ended up being parasites instead.  

[00:22:19] Jesse Fries:

Oh, snap.  

[00:22:22] Jamon Fries:

So   that so that would explain why Ivermectin works against it.  

[00:22:28] Jesse Fries:

Actually, that would.   So we don't have cancer, just parasites.   Some of them. Not not everybody because I but yeah. Come on. It it's Let's just make a blanket statement. Cancer's a scam.  

[00:22:45] Jamon Fries:

Alright. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. Because there was there was I heard of one case where they diagnosed him with cancer a long long time ago.   Uh-huh. And, you know, they would occasionally   take pictures of the area to see if it was spreading and metastasizing and all this other stuff. Right. And it it did it metastasizing and all this other stuff. Right. And it it did it was growing and growing and growing,   and I don't know what the hell I don't know what,   they probably went in to try to remove it. It ended up being a parasite.   Wow. Wow.  



[00:23:16] Jesse Fries:

And then he was healthy. Good to go. Yeah. Nice. Nice.  

[00:23:20] Jamon Fries:

I they they diagnosed him based off based off of the egg because, you know, you can't really tell tell the difference between cancer and the eggs. Right.   But then they didn't test it anymore because they knew what it was. Uh-huh. So they just watched for the shadow.   And so as the parasite grew,   they kept seeing the shadow growing.   And when they finally went in to remove it, they're like, oh, shit. Well, damn.  

[00:23:48] Jesse Fries:

That's unusual.   That is a bit odd. That is a bit odd. That's a Yep. Good to know. Good to know. That's   a Absolutely.   Doctors.   Yep.   Oh, did you hear that the there's been a huge, like, hack,   the   the like, of our phone systems   of, Verizon   and, AT and T?  

[00:24:14] Jamon Fries:

I saw something about how China how China was still in our phone systems.   Yep. Nope. I don't know.  

[00:24:21] Jesse Fries:

I I didn't really hear much about that other than that. They're basically able to get your text messages and whatnot,   and   the calls back and forth and everything like that. They can get a lot of the metadata   and,   also   get messaging. So basically, if you're using   just regular text message,   those are   might have been stolen and everything like that.   So the government's so the government is now saying that you should use encrypted.   So so so this means that I'm that Imessage is actually the way to go. So   Yeah. Or Yeah. Or or or go with WhatsApp even though the US does not use WhatsApp at all. But, at least   or Telegram or Telegraph or whatever those, ones are, you know, it's,   yeah.  

But we which is funny because the government doesn't want us to have encryption because then they can't get into our stuff.   Right. Yeah.   But now they want us to have it.  

[00:25:21] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. The gov the government has done everything they can to make sure that they can see everything that we say. And   now they're like, no. No. We gotta protect it because somebody else can see what we say. This is the problem. This is why  

[00:25:35] Jesse Fries:

data   people   say you have to have a completely closed system because if you if you one person can get in,  

[00:25:43] Jamon Fries:

anybody can get in. Anybody can get in. It doesn't matter. Yep. Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, I I I I have absolutely no doubt that the government that the that the,   phone companies, you know, the government came to them and said, you need to leave a back door open for us.   Just if nothing else, just so that they can do, you know, just so that they can   just so that they can get a,   court   case, you know, that they can get the court to give them a subpoena to to access those records.   Yeah. But   that just leaves the back door open for every hacker in the world.  

[00:26:18] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Yeah. It looks like it was just AT and T and Verizon, so it wasn't even T Mobile wasn't to it apparently.   But then T Mobile might use their systems. AT and T usually   both of those are Bell companies,   AT and T and Verizon,   the old Bell, my Bell. And so they actually have, like, the   but then so does T Mobile. T Mobile bought,   southwestern Bell   or what or Sprint, which was Southwestern belt. Yeah.   Yeah. So  

[00:26:49] Jamon Fries:

yeah. I don't know. Unless unless they didn't, unless they didn't take in any of the changes from   some from Sprint. If they didn't if they didn't include anything from Sprint, they may have just completely taken over just completely rewritten all of Sprint's old programming.  

[00:27:06] Jesse Fries:

Possibly. Possibly.   If if that's the case, they were smart. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. But, yeah, the the the news doesn't say anything about it. So it's,   yeah. But yeah. So I'll just stick with my encrypted messaging,   and all those green people   can go suck it.  

[00:27:27] Jamon Fries:

Luckily, I've saved this phone.  

[00:27:29] Jesse Fries:

Last phone, I wouldn't have been, but this one Yeah. See, you're cool now. Now now I can still text message you that, that meme. You you know, those memes and whatnot. You know?   Or Yeah. Are you awake? Come on, Jamin. Are you awake? Yeah.  

[00:27:43] Jamon Fries:

That's a good thing you sent this one that sent that this time because I'd actually fall asleep again,   and your text would be enough.   Yeah. That's why I do 5 o'clock. I woke up at, like, 5 o'clock this morning,   and I'm like, if I fall asleep again, I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna wake up. It's been time I know myself that well.   And so I was doing everything I could to stay awake, and it just didn't work.  

[00:28:14] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. What else you got?  

[00:28:18] Jamon Fries:

Well, in   let me see here.   I've got   a few more political stuff.   Uh-huh.   Biden has been on a,   on a rampage of approving loans for, clean energy businesses.  

[00:28:38] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Trying to get that out of the way. Yep.  

[00:28:41] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Trying to trying to make it so that they all get the loans   because,   Trump was going to basically give that money was going to give that money back to the government instead of leaving it for those loans.   It's kind of interesting though   who else is getting the loans   and what they're gonna use it for.   Mhmm. So Stellantis,   which is a Dutch company   That is and Samsung  

[00:29:10] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:29:11] Jamon Fries:

Are getting   $7,540,000,000   Right. To build a new factory   Uh-huh.   In,   in Indiana.  

[00:29:25] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[00:29:29] Jamon Fries:

That's a lot of money to build a factory, isn't it?  

[00:29:33] Jesse Fries:

It's a battery factory.   It's Stellantis is   I do you know who Stellantis is? Yes. Stellantis  

[00:29:42] Jamon Fries:

is a auto manufacturers from everything that I've found. Yeah. Dodge brand.  

[00:29:47] Jesse Fries:

EVs and stuff like that. No. No. They're Dodge, Ram, Chrysler. They're they're so it was a Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That that's Stellantis. So, basically, what it was is that so it was Chrysler. This is   there's Chrysler and then Fiat   bought Chrysler, and so then it was Fiat Chrysler.   Okay. And then,   like, some other company, Peugeot or something like that, they decided to   merge with them. And so then they became Stellantis. So this is Jeep. Okay. This is Fiat. This is,  

[00:30:23] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Yeah. I was wondering about that because Yeah. Because, you know, I've I've never heard of a Stellantis manufactured car. So Exactly. This is the,  

[00:30:35] Jesse Fries:

industry. Since   my wife works for General Motors, I I kinda know what's going on with it. And I'm in I lived in Detroit while all that was going on because the headquarters,   for Okay.   For Chrysler are right there.  

[00:30:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:30:50] Jesse Fries:

Yep. And and then they had a dual   headquarters   there once Fiat bought them. The other one was, like, in Italy or something like that.   And then   now I think it's just a subdivision or something like that. I don't I don't think it's even a headquarters.   Yeah.   But, yeah, all they do is make for for us, it's Fiat, which there's very few of those anymore in the US. I'm not even sure if they Mhmm. Sell those anymore.   But Aston Martin,   is part of that as well.   And then Okay. And then Chrysler,   for the couple cars that they do.   Dodge is, like, nonexistent,   I think.  

Yeah. I think I think Dodge is gone now. Because now it's just Ram truck. It's not even a Dodge Ram. It's just Ram truck. Yeah. Yeah.   And then you have Jeep. I  

[00:31:42] Jamon Fries:

I I think Dodge   I think the Dodge manufacturer   is still there. I think they do cars now. I don't think they do trucks anymore. I think I think Ram broke off.  

[00:31:52] Jesse Fries:

No. I don't think because what cars does Dodge do? Dot they don't have a minivan. They don't have anything.   I  

[00:32:01] Jamon Fries:

don't know. I mean, they they may Charger. The Dodge Charger. Yeah.  

[00:32:06] Jesse Fries:

Okay. And Durango.   Yep. Okay. So, yeah, they have, like, 4 cars, it looks like.  

[00:32:13] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. And the Charger Ram Ram separated from Dodge, which   really took a lot of Dodge.   Really took a lot of the the the mainstay of Dodge vehicles out of it. But, yeah, the Dodge Charger, you know, that's that's always been their sports car. The Charger, the Challenger,  

[00:32:31] Jesse Fries:

and then,   the Hornet apparently is one of looks like that's a small Okay.  

[00:32:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's just a small SUV.   Okay.  

[00:32:42] Jesse Fries:

Starting at 31,000.  

[00:32:45] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:32:45] Jesse Fries:

And then the Durango, which is their big s u well,   midsize SUV. I wouldn't say it's big. It's not like a Tahoe or anything like that. Right.  

[00:32:56] Jamon Fries:

So   yeah. Everything with that went like  

[00:32:59] Jesse Fries:

jeep, like, the,   grand Wagoneer   of that huge monstrosity of, of the wagoner.   That's that's about the size of a Tahoe and whatnot. So but Yep. Yeah.   Mostly Jeep and whatnot. So  

[00:33:16] Jamon Fries:

okay. The thing that I don't the thing that I don't really understand about the   Stellantis and Samsung 1 Uh-huh. Is   suppose so they're getting 7 7,540,000,000  

[00:33:29] Jesse Fries:

dollars. Mhmm.  

[00:33:31] Jamon Fries:

6.8   5,000,000,000 in principal,   606,000,000   looks   and it was just they in here, it just says 688   in interest, but I think it's 688,000,000   in interest. Uh-huh.   So does that mean   so that that means either they're   they're given the loan on on the aspect of they're not going to have to pay any interest?   Or Yeah. Basically. I think Are we paying them interest for getting the loan? Because   why would it total up to 707,540,000,000   when they're actually only getting 6.85?   I I think it's more than interest. Interest that they should be it shouldn't be forgiven in. There shouldn't be forgiven interest on a loan. I mean, that's the entire reason for giving a loan is for the interest.  

[00:34:19] Jesse Fries:

Not from the government though for the   so it's,   yeah. Technically, the government isn't giving loans to make money even though   that's the student loan program is a huge,   moneymaker for the government. That's just Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[00:34:37] Jamon Fries:

And, like, Sunwealth is another company that's getting that's getting them,   they're getting $289,700,000   Oh, yeah. To finance the deployment of up to 1,000   solar photovoltaic   photovoltaic   and battery energy storage systems.  

[00:34:58] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:34:59] Jamon Fries:

So a thousand is gonna be   $289,000,000.   That's kinda pricey.   It is. It is. It is. But, yeah, all all these loans and everything like that, it's kind of fun. It's  

[00:35:14] Jesse Fries:

I was listening to   what is it? The the COP,   28 or something like that, the climate thing and everything like that that's happening in, like, Baku or something.   So, basically, all the rich countries didn't wanna give the poor countries,   money. Right? And the poor countries are going Oh, we need more money. We need more money and everything like that. Well, apparently   so we we have agreed to give them more money,   something like 300,000,000,000   or something like that over the next   10 years or something like that.   So basically, just a drop in the bucket.  

But Yeah. What what what's funny is that, technically, their loans, it's financing is what, $300,000,000,000   in financing.   We're not actually giving them money.   We're just giving them financing.   But, technically, they have to pay back.  

[00:36:03] Jamon Fries:

It well, I mean, that that's the same with, you US Ukraine. Every every penny that's gone to Ukraine is technically a loan.   It's not just money that we're giving away. It's it's all a loan.  

[00:36:14] Jesse Fries:

Actually, didn't Biden  

[00:36:16] Jamon Fries:

I think Biden forgave, like, a whole chunk of that, actually. Well, he he may have he may have forgiven a whole, a large portion of it, but do you know why they did it as a loan?   Why?   Because in in Ukraine,   there is no such thing as owning your own property.   Okay. But   to secure the loan   Right. They had to they had to what they had to do to get the loan   is they had to sell   all of their farmland.   Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about that. And so now all of so so now, like, the so now a few of the US major,   farm and farm companies   have bought up all of Ukraine's farmland.  



[00:37:03] Jesse Fries:

Lovely. So, basically, it was just a scam for us to actually get their farmland. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And and Ukraine is like the breadbasket of the entire region. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:37:14] Jamon Fries:

Wow.  

[00:37:17] Jesse Fries:

Oh, there's no corruption?  

[00:37:19] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. No. Not at all. No corruption at all. You know, we we get we get pissed off when the Chinese are buying farms that are in the US legitimately,   and we go and we bought everything,   every single square acre of farmland   in in Ukraine. They they kicked all of their farmers off of their lands  

[00:37:40] Jesse Fries:

or they rent the land to them. Oh, yeah. Probably. So probably rent the land to them, I would say. It's,   but, yeah, probably some kicking off as well and everything like that. So it's  

[00:37:50] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. If if if if you're not gonna pay pay to rent it, they gotta kick you off of it. Yep. Yep. Apparently, though, I heard that, in Ukraine,  

[00:38:00] Jesse Fries:

something like a 100,000   there's, like, a 100,000 cases of desertion,  

[00:38:05] Jamon Fries:

on the Ukrainian side. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the It doesn't surprise me that much. It does indeed. The Ukrainian government the Ukrainian government is corrupt as fuck.  

[00:38:15] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. They're one of the most corrupt in the world, actually. So it's a Yeah.   Yeah. And   yeah. And that's only, like, 25 years and older. So it's like Yep.   Yeah. Unless if they volunteer.  

[00:38:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   Speaking of land Uh-huh. Did you hear that Texas has bought a has bought, like, 1500   acres on the border?  

[00:38:40] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. No. I hadn't heard that.  

[00:38:43] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They they've they've they,   they've   bought they've   they've gotten they've bought some land in the past,   but there's this there's this one lady that owned owned some farm property on the border   Uh-huh.   That would not allow   the   any officials under her land to to chase after the to prevent people from coming across the border.  

[00:39:07] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:39:08] Jamon Fries:

She refused to allow anybody access to her land.   So he said everybody could come across the border there.   So   Texas went in, they bought all that land from her.   They bought all they bought her out completely. So now they own that land to build so they can build a fence there.  

[00:39:28] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay.   Star Country County Ranch, is that  

[00:39:35] Jamon Fries:

maybe?   It could be. I don't remember the name of it.  

[00:39:41] Jesse Fries:

1400 acre or something like that. Uh-huh. Yeah. 1400  

[00:39:45] Jamon Fries:

acres. Yep. Okay.   Yeah. My mine, it doesn't say what in the article I found, it doesn't say what the name of that ranch was. It just Oh, good. Said it just   says that it was a 1400 acre ranch along the Rio Grande. This is from the awesome newspaper. So  

[00:40:02] Jesse Fries:

it's, they would know that sort of thing.   Yeah. Yeah. Mine is just from, Fox News. So I don't know what the national branch of it. So Yeah. National News, they never, like, say, like, the exact city or Yeah. No. Anything like that. It's like, oh, area outside   Detroit. Yeah.   It's 50 miles outside, but, you know, sure. Why not?   Yep. Yep.  

[00:40:27] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, because it according to national news, if it's outside of New York or LA, it's, you know, hell fuck nowhere, really. It it it is true. But then again, who's gonna know those small towns? You know? It's like Oh, yeah. No. Yeah.  

[00:40:43] Jesse Fries:

Round Rock, Texas? Nobody knows Round Rock, Texas. You know? Seriously, it's a bit part of it. Well, yeah. Because I live here.  

[00:40:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, no. I mean, I I I I've I heard of it when I would if if I'm   I think I may have, pulled the load into there one time 1 year.  

[00:40:59] Jesse Fries:

Wouldn't it's well, Dell is located here. Their headquarters is here. So yeah.  

[00:41:05] Jamon Fries:

Well, this was way before Dell would have been there. This is about Plus you were a truck driver. You've heard of small many small little cars. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Yeah. I've I've driven I've driven I've seen many road signs of of small towns that, you know, somebody will mention somebody will mention the name, like,   I   I've driven through that area before I know what you're talking about.  

[00:41:27] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Well, it looks like, appeals court blocked the Biden administration from removing razor wire,  

[00:41:35] Jamon Fries:

here in Texas. Oh, did they really? Yeah. Yeah. Under the I think it was the  

[00:41:40] Jesse Fries:

yeah. Federal appeals court   said that they can't,   take it down.  

[00:41:50] Jamon Fries:

Oops.   Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.   Gotta love these feuds.   Oh, yeah. Well, you know, that that's not all that that that's, going on in the legal field either. Uh-huh.   You heard about,   the judge stopping Tesla's pay package for Elon Musk? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The guy that hates Musk. Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. The,   because   one person that owns, like,   I've seen 2 shares. Yeah. Conflicting things. I I I I've heard that he owns 9 shares   of stock.   Right. Right. Able to stop and he was able to stop the pay package.  

[00:42:32] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. No. That's how it goes. You know?  

[00:42:35] Jamon Fries:

So the so the company put it up for vote again and 8 they got 84%   approval.  

[00:42:40] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[00:42:41] Jamon Fries:

And the judge still still says, nope. Not happening.  

[00:42:45] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I'm like, just, ah, Jesus Christ, people. It's  

[00:42:51] Jamon Fries:

yeah. I don't know. And, you know, if if it were if it,   Sure. It seems to be an excessive amount,   but he's not actually getting any money.  

[00:43:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's all like stock and all. Shares that are worth that. Yeah. Mhmm.   I mean Yeah. And he just uses that as collateral for his other projects, you know. It's or or even for that project, you know. Tesla is booming still.   You know, yeah, it's gone down kind of   the left doesn't like it or him anymore, really. But   his headquarters here is still expanding. So  

[00:43:25] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. I mean, he these   yeah. He's   even bandying on about buying MSNBC,  

[00:43:33] Jesse Fries:

which would be hilarious. Hilarious. That was a good troll. I like that one.  

[00:43:37] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yep. But no. I mean, the there was one article that said that that it was his   2018   pay package that they were stopping.  

[00:43:48] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[00:43:50] Jamon Fries:

Which does that mean that he hasn't gotten   paid anything since 2018 from Tesla   for all the years that he does? Possibly.  

[00:44:00] Jesse Fries:

I'm not sure if he because he just owns it. I don't know if he gets paid. Let's see.  

[00:44:05] Jamon Fries:

No. He doesn't he doesn't collect any he doesn't collect any wages from him. He he doesn't have a set wage. He only gets paid with stock options, basically.   Uh-huh.   And I don't know. You know, 56,000,000,000   or what whatever they were saying it was worth   for him   since 2018.   I mean,   it's   kind of worth it, I think.   I don't know. I I I just think the judge just hates him. I think that's what it is. It's just Oh, well, I mean, it's yeah. Well, and the the   I've I've seen a lot of comments about the mistake that he made was he was that he,   he incorporated in Delaware.  



[00:44:49] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah, it's a it's one of the best places to actually incorporate  

[00:44:52] Jamon Fries:

actually because there's Yeah. It it is until the judges aren't on your until you until you become conservative, it's a great place to incorporate.   But once you become conservative,  

[00:45:03] Jesse Fries:

it's not such a great place to be. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's just like, all the conservatives,   that that start off in New York, and then they go, fuck this. I'm going to   Florida. You know? It's like   it's like Trump,   Rush Limbaugh   did that. You know, so many have done that. You know, it's just,   Oh, yeah.  

[00:45:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I mean, you you've gotta you've gotta go somewhere where your kind is welcomed.   Yep. Yep.   You won't be   and you know the   unfortunately,   I should say it, it's not cruel. It's not unfortunate. Fortunately,   it doesn't hurt work in the opposite direction.   You know, the conservative   state will never   say, well, you're liberal, so we're not going to let you do anything.  

[00:45:51] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. That's not how it works. That's not how it works. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Liberals.   Okay. You do. Can you even call them liberals? I saw also I saw one post. It was like, can you even call them liberals anymore? Because they're not really liberal.   They're they're   they're more,   do what I say. They're they're they're more fascist realty in how they Oh, yeah. They they really are. They really are.  

[00:46:15] Jamon Fries:

If if you disagree with them in any way, shape, or form, you are nothing.  

[00:46:20] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Yep.  

[00:46:22] Jamon Fries:

That is that is very fascist way of thinking.  

[00:46:25] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Let's see here. What else you got?  

[00:46:32] Jamon Fries:

Let me see.   So   I've got,   let's go into some sports related stuff.  

[00:46:44] Jesse Fries:

Okay.   So  

[00:46:47] Jamon Fries:

I guess   you know, the   World Doping Agency.   Right? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.   They're supposed to they're supposed to uphold the standards and make sure that no one's doping, no one's using any drugs that aren't allowed   for   sport in in sport in the international   sports arena.  

[00:47:08] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:47:13] Jamon Fries:

I guess until it comes to China.  

[00:47:16] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:47:18] Jamon Fries:

There were 23   swimmers that tested positive for doping   with a, heart medication   that   that makes it so you have more energy and stamina.   Right. Right. There were 23 Chinese swimmers that tested positive for it,   but   the people in charge of the World Doping Agency did not inform   anyone below them that was actually investigating   China.  

[00:47:45] Jesse Fries:

Really?   Yeah.   Wow. Wow. Was this for the Olympics? So no.  

[00:47:52] Jamon Fries:

No. This was, this was not for the Olympics. It was well,   it was in   2022.   No. 2020.   It was in 2020.   They in they had gotten a,   they'd gotten the tip that China was doping.  

[00:48:14] Jesse Fries:

So that is for the Olympics.   Just the other Olympics. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:48:21] Jamon Fries:

But there was a lady who defected in 2017   teen Mhmm. That told them that was told them exactly what they were doing to for doping.   And so they set up a they set up a group to watch China specifically.   Right. And after China tested positive, the the doping agency decided not to inform this group that was watching over China.   Lovely. They froze them out because they because they didn't wanna report on China.  

[00:48:50] Jesse Fries:

That's just craziness.   That is pure craziness. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:48:55] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. I don't think I don't think it was I don't think it was for the Olympics, though, because  

[00:49:03] Jesse Fries:

is is it every wait. No. It is every 4 years, isn't it? Yeah. And then they had to push that one, remember? Because it was COVID. So they pushed it to 21.  

[00:49:13] Jamon Fries:

That's right. Yeah. So so, yeah, that was for the Olympics that they were doping for. Uh-huh.  

[00:49:19] Jesse Fries:

Well, probably Yeah. Another new story 4 years from now will come out about 2024 probably for the same thing.  

[00:49:25] Jamon Fries:

Probably.   Probably. Yep.  

[00:49:27] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Other sporting news, it's kinda interesting. Looks like there's talks   with the NFL   and the Washington commanders   are,   looks like there's some people that are trying to get,   the the Redskins   logo back,   at least to put it someplace prominently,  

[00:49:46] Jamon Fries:

in the stadium and everything like that. So Yeah. They they've they've finally agreed to   at least not,   take it off of any of the,   any of the, like, memorial   type,   type,   products that they sell. They're in their,   you know, their merchandise.   Right. They they finally they finally agreed that they will sell their merchandise again that had the old merchandise that still has that logo on it. Right.   I've heard a few places that they that they're talking that that there's, that people are trying well, I I know for a fact that people are trying to convince them to to bring back the name, the Redskins,   and put the logo back on the helmet. But, side of the car, it doesn't.  

I don't think so  

[00:50:32] Jesse Fries:

either. No. I I don't see it happening. But, yeah, keep the logo because, you know, the guy,   the Native American who posed for it and the artist and everything like that, I I think that's a good story. I think, it,   it Oh, yeah. And to take that away is yeah.  

[00:50:48] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Well, you know, that that's one thing that I've never understood, you know. They took it away because it was culturally insensitive, which means   that it was culturally and culturally insensitive   for the Indians to come up with the name for the team   and to come up with the logo themselves without any influence from outside.   The so the Indians were culturally in it culturally offensive to their own kind.  

[00:51:14] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Yeah. Right.  

[00:51:18] Jamon Fries:

That was one problem that I've always had with that change. You know, I I I could see,   I I could see potential reasons for some of the other ones because, you know, if it was named by a white guy and a white guy came up with the logo,   for like the,   for for a team that was   that, you know, if it had absolutely nothing to do with the with the Indians, then it was, then it was a Indian style name.   Mhmm. I could see   some argument for it, especially if any native Americans have been against it. Yep.   But we know Native American is complaining   about the name and the logo.  

Well, it's not something that's not even culturally offensive.   Well, see, that's the thing. There were some there were some that were down on the that were more towards the West Coast. Some of those tribes were against it. But Uh-huh. I mean   yeah. And and, you know, some of the tribes that were enemies of that tribe that maybe in the area were against it. But Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, you know, you   yeah. No.  

[00:52:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's it's like groups are not like   they're they're not cohesive. You you know, there's always those that that there's the people that really care and then the people that don't care and then the people that like the way things are. And then, yeah, it's Yep. It's always interesting when it comes to that sort of thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   I always like them. One more.  

[00:52:51] Jamon Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:52:52] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Oh, I was just gonna say I always like it how whenever they try to do the same, they go, okay. What about white people? And so they come up with, like, the caucasians or something like that, and then all the white people just start buying.   That sort of thing. It's a thing that's what you do. You you just Could could you could you imagine the football team called the crackers?  

[00:53:12] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. It it's called the the vikings. Buying that merch all the time. We would. But not only that, but we're look at the vikings. Go on. You know,  

[00:53:22] Jesse Fries:

we're we're still around. You know, we have some fighting blood in us. You know, we're still here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, what can you do? I'm not trying to say that people that are offended at anything like that are wrong. I'm just saying,   yeah, it's  

[00:53:37] Jamon Fries:

some things are good to fight about. Otherwise, it's just nitpicking, I think. The the biggest the biggest problem that I have with all of that   is   you shouldn't say something's culturally in offense to is culturally offensive   unless you're part of the culture that is being offended.   Yep. A white person cannot go and say Indians are so outraged about this.   Yep. You're a white person, dude. You're not an Indian, so you got no freaking say in this.  

[00:54:06] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   Because he what else we got?  

[00:54:10] Jamon Fries:

I've got one more sports related.   I'm I'm sure you've heard about what happened in Guinea after a controversial   call.   No.   There was a massive riot in a what they call football   field   But   because of a controversial call where 56   people died.  

[00:54:34] Jesse Fries:

Holy shit.   Yeah. I heard about this. What   what was the call? There was a  

[00:54:41] Jamon Fries:

a I I haven't been able to find, oh, somebody got a red card.  

[00:54:46] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[00:54:48] Jamon Fries:

And this started off a thing where there were people that were there there were some people that were that started throwing rocks into the crowd.   Right.   And so so the crowd started running, and, unfortunately,   a good portion of these 56 people   were younger children that couldn't keep up with the crowd. Yeah. That that's true how it goes,  

[00:55:08] Jesse Fries:

unfortunately.  

[00:55:10] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So but   I I've never seen as you know, here in the US, something like that would be completely unthinkable. But   those kinds of riots and those kinds of those kinds of things that that soccer matches   Uh-huh. That, you know, then that the professionals that the professional level are so insane.   I have   seen so many fights break out because of a call   Oh, yeah. In a in a on a football field, you know, not American football, but the European football team. Soccer. Soccer. Yeah. It's Uh-huh. Yeah. It it's it's insane   how violent   it gets. They  

[00:55:44] Jesse Fries:

they they really do get violent over there.  

[00:55:47] Jamon Fries:

Could you imagine what the news would be saying this week if that had happened in Kansas City   because of the call by the refs at the end of the game?   Yeah. Yeah.   It's  

[00:56:00] Jesse Fries:

it.   Yeah. We're a bit more civilized over here. When it comes to   our sports, I I I because even Europeans   get go crazy when it comes to there's just something about it. Yeah.   Yeah. Oh, and apparently, that football match in Guinea, it was dedicated to the Junta chief, Guinea's Junta chief.   Oh, yeah. That's hilarious.  

[00:56:22] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[00:56:25] Jesse Fries:

That is crazy.   I had not heard about that one. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:56:31] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. It was rather insane.  

[00:56:34] Jesse Fries:

That's completely insane. Well, since we're on an international kick, let's cover some international moves here.   So,   Korea,   the Republic of Korea, AKA   South Korea,  

[00:56:49] Jamon Fries:

they   The declaration of martial law.   Yeah. Yeah. That was  

[00:56:56] Jesse Fries:

completely crazy. Let's see here. I have a breakdown of I did the I got, like, a breakdown of it. Let's see the timeline of it. It was very short lived. Let's see who would this.   Okay. Yeah. I'm pulling this up now.   Okay. So it all started   at 10:23   PM.   Last night.   Yeah. Last night,   their time.   And   the president Yoon,   went on television and declared martial law.   10:40,   the parliament goes, what the fuck? And so then they start to get   law makers   into the parliament.  

[00:57:36] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:57:37] Jesse Fries:

Let's see. 11 PM, martial law actually takes effect.   The parliament,   arrives at the assembly   at 11:14.   Troops   start   to oh, and around midnight,   lawmakers present, they have enough for quorum 150,   so that they can actually, like, vote on things and everything like that. That was around midnight. Right.   The 1227   troops   attempted to enter the assembly building,   clashing with lawmakers' aids and staff.  

[00:58:12] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I didn't hear about that one.  

[00:58:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. They were breaking windows and everything like that trying to get into the assembly.   Damn. 1238,   some troops breached the assembly building.   Let's see. 1248,   the plenary   session begins. So, basically, I'm just talking about it and everything like that. Motion to revoke   the law the martial law was introduced.   That was at 101.   104, motion passed unanimously,   and the speaker declares martial law invalid at 104.   110, armed forces begin to leave the assembly building.   And then,   like, 3 and a half hours later, 4:26   AM, president Yoon says he'll drop martial law.  

He went back on TV at that point in time.   And then,   4:31,   the troops return to their bases.   And 4:40, martial law is officially,   lifted.   And   then yeah. So basically, you could go to bed.   Right? Yeah. And then wake up,   and it all happened in that and missed it all. Exactly.  

[00:59:27] Jamon Fries:

Because it was, like, 6 hours.  

[00:59:30] Jesse Fries:

It yeah. Well, from, let's see. 11:40   is when he started it. Didn't go into effect until 11. So 5 hours. So 5 hours. 5 5, 6 hours. So that's it.  

[00:59:46] Jamon Fries:

Does anybody know what he declared martial law for?   Yes. Because I have I've I've seen a lot of stuff on that, but I haven't seen one thing yet as to why he declared   martial law.  

[00:59:57] Jesse Fries:

The reason why he   did it is, because he said that,   the Democratic   Party,   Yeah. Democratic Party of Korea.   Apparently, he says that,   they were,   they're they're sympathizers to North Korea, and they're collaborating with, North Korea   and everything like that. Yeah. I I it's all tenuous. It all seems  

[01:00:24] Jamon Fries:

So essentially,   it would be the same thing right now if Biden declared martial law.   It would essentially be for the same exact reason.   Right. Right. Right. Because they didn't like the other side.  

[01:00:37] Jesse Fries:

That was Yeah. That that that's,   exactly what it is. Because the the assembly was has a different party than,   the president. So, yeah, it's,   so, yeah, that is some craziness.  

[01:00:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Absolutely.  

[01:00:58] Jesse Fries:

And then, we have France going on right now.  

[01:01:02] Jamon Fries:

What's going on there?  

[01:01:03] Jesse Fries:

Voted no confidence   is about to happen if it didn't Yes.  

[01:01:09] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. As of   now, let's see.  

[01:01:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Looks like yeah. So,   and it would be the first time, that, somebody was out here for no confidence since, like, 1960.   Yeah. Or something like that. So, yeah, it's   a bit crazy.   Yeah. That one, it looks like it's all due to the budget.   So,   the guy wants to cut because the   because the EU is telling them that they need to cut.   They're supposed to only have a deficit of, like, per the EU,   they're only supposed to have a deficit of, like, 3%.   And they're gonna have a deficit of, like,   6 or 7% with the budget. Oh, wow.  

[01:01:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Darn.  

[01:01:56] Jesse Fries:

That's pretty that's pretty bad. Yeah. But see, this is what happens when you actually get,   when you're no longer,   in control of your own money.   The euro,   basically, in France is just a state.   That's all it is, you know.   Yep.   Yep. But but, yeah, it looks like, they   their,   borrowing power actually fell below Greece's.   Oh,   wow.  

[01:02:25] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's bad when that happens. You know you know you're a failed state when that happens.   Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So   yeah,  

[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:

it went that was just for a very brief period of time. Yeah. There's a moment there where, that happened. So looks like they're still in,   what is it, the assembly national   or National Assembly,   trying to   they're talking right now is basically what they're doing. So  

[01:02:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Mhmm. Okay.  

[01:02:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Fun stuff. Right? And it's the left and the right   that's, going after him.   And so   Nice.  

[01:03:08] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So I think let's see. Do I have anything else international  

[01:03:13] Jesse Fries:

here?   Oh, there's protests in Georgia,   the country.   So   yeah.   But it's all due to,   the parliament saying they don't want anything to do with the EU   or pausing their   acceptance into the EU.  

[01:03:33] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   The I mean, it it   it makes sense that a that a country wouldn't want to become part of the EU because, well, they lose all all ten,   I can't tell the word now. Yeah. Autonomy. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:03:49] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.  

[01:03:50] Jamon Fries:

They they can't operate on they really can't control anything about their own country once they become part of the EU.  

[01:03:56] Jesse Fries:

They really can't. But the argument is that,   the other side is they say, well, they don't have autonomy anyways because Russia's just telling them what to do. So yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.   But, yeah, Georgia, it's like I don't even know why they're being offered the EU because   do you know where Georgia is located   on the map?  

[01:04:21] Jamon Fries:

I'm not entirely sure. Okay. Well, where is it located? I I know that it's I know it's part of what used to be USSR.  

[01:04:29] Jesse Fries:

Correct. Correct. But where it's located   is it is   it it borders Turkey and Russia.   Okay.   Turkey's in Asia. So way way down that corner. Yeah.   Yeah. So   that that that's really Asia. You know? That that that doesn't that Europe. You know? So it's like   yeah. Yeah. So I don't even know why they want in there and everything like that. So but the president of Georgia is for,   joining the EU.   So she's out there with the protesters and everything like that. No. But   but their parliament is like going, no, no, we're not doing it. We're not doing it. So Yeah.   Yeah. Oh, I do have one interesting.  

Yeah. Yeah.   And then also, looks like, you know, that cable that was   cut? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the Swedes The Baltic Sea. Yeah. Yeah. The Swedes say that it was a it was a sabotage   is what the Swedes say.   And and then Finland   investigated, and Finland's going,   it was an accident, guys. I don't  

[01:05:38] Jamon Fries:

it's just an accident.  

[01:05:40] Jesse Fries:

We're investigating an accident. I don't see they they they go, we don't see any,   proof that it was deliberate, that there is sabotage.   So  

[01:05:50] Jamon Fries:

yeah. Yeah. I've I've I've I've heard, you know, it was the Russians that did it. I heard some people say that it was the Chinese that did it. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's a Chinese boat around there or something like that. Yep. Yep. And you and here's a coin, but Really? Why? Yeah. It makes no sense. Yeah. No.  

[01:06:08] Jesse Fries:

But it's just one cable. It didn't really do much. So  

[01:06:12] Jamon Fries:

No. No. Yeah.   And, you know, even even if it did,   Russia and China need that information to go through as well.  

[01:06:23] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[01:06:24] Jamon Fries:

You know? I mean,   you you really can't   if you were to if you try to prevent the information   transfer   of from around the world,   I'm sorry, but it affects you just as much, if not more, as everybody else.  

[01:06:39] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Yep.   Yep.  

[01:06:44] Jamon Fries:

Speaking of the military   Uh-huh. The, US military has gotten into   AI driven vehicles now.  

[01:06:52] Jesse Fries:

What was that? You you kind of been break you broke up there a bit.  

[01:06:56] Jamon Fries:

Oh, sorry.   The US military   into AI driven vehicles.  

[01:07:03] Jesse Fries:

You're you're breaking up again.  

[01:07:05] Jamon Fries:

What's going on? Okay. That's not good.  

[01:07:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. You're   getting all digital.  

[01:07:16] Jamon Fries:

It could be my bad Internet. You never know.   Yeah. It could be. Could be.   Is this still happening?  

[01:07:27] Jesse Fries:

Let's let's keep going. Let's see.  

[01:07:29] Jamon Fries:

Okay.   The US government is has gotten into AI driven vehicles.   Okay. For but for them, it's helicopters.   They have a there's a Blackhawk   with no pilot   that flew for half an hour.  

[01:07:47] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.  

[01:07:48] Jamon Fries:

They're what they're doing is they're they're doing this so that they can ins so that they can can,   send the Blackhawks   in to help their troops into an area where   they they know for sure that that there's a very, very good likelihood that they would lose the pilot.  

[01:08:05] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[01:08:06] Jamon Fries:

Where the helicopter might would most likely be shut down. They without a pilot in there, they they feel that they would be okay sending the helicopter in to assist   because they're not putting a life in harm by by sending it in.  

[01:08:21] Jesse Fries:

And so it's AI that does this?  

[01:08:24] Jamon Fries:

Yes. It's an AI driven helicopter.  

[01:08:26] Jesse Fries:

Skynet.   Okay.   Yep. Absolutely.  

[01:08:31] Jamon Fries:

Hey. Okay. They're they're, testing they're testing it with some of their attack helicopters. They're testing it. There's some thought they're gonna,   that they might be spreading it into their, fighter jets.   Uh-huh.   Wow. So, yeah, the they're,   now the court now the article that I was reading, it didn't really say if it was gonna be completely AI or if there was gonna be a human in control in some manner,   but it seemed to indicate that it was more AI than than just a remote piloted.  

[01:09:04] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.   Interesting.   Yep.   Yeah. Okay.   Hey. That's kinda crazy.  

[01:09:15] Jamon Fries:

SpaceX's valuation   went up massively.   Uh-huh. It's now valued at $350,000,000,000.   Okay. Nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah. I I did not know this, but, every about twice a year, SpaceX put their puts their,   puts stock up in in a tender offer.  

[01:09:36] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:09:38] Jamon Fries:

The reason that they do it, I think, is really awesome.   What they're doing is they've got   select people that that they that they're okay with buying more stock.   Uh-huh. And so they put they put up a tender offer so that   any other employees   that need to dump a little bit of stock to to get some some financial income coming in. Right. It's like, say, they wanted to make a large purchase so they Uh-huh. But they their wages weren't enough.   Because they also receive stock from the company, they can turn around and sell their stock in these tender in these tender offers   Okay. To get the money that they need.  



[01:10:16] Jesse Fries:

Interesting.   Interesting.  

[01:10:17] Jamon Fries:

So so twice a year, Ted,   SpaceX   puts puts their stock up puts a option to sell your stock   to certain individuals, to approved individuals.  

[01:10:30] Jesse Fries:

That's kinda cool. That's kinda cool. Yeah.  

[01:10:34] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I've never heard of a company doing that before. This is the first time I've ever heard of a company doing that. Yeah. Musk is an interesting guy. He really is. He really is. Yeah.  

[01:10:47] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Do I what else do I got here? Oh, speaking of, like, finances,   apparently,   only 31 percent of Americans   think that they have financially made it.  

[01:11:01] Jamon Fries:

So That's not that surprising.  

[01:11:03] Jesse Fries:

It really isn't. Yeah. No. Apparently, millennials   seem to think they're doing better than everybody else.   Yep.   So which is funny because weren't they, like, bitching and complaining all the freaking time? Oh, poor. Woah. It's us millennials.  

[01:11:18] Jamon Fries:

We are we are the poorest generation.   Oh, we suck.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I remember  

[01:11:27] Jesse Fries:

Oh, I remember hearing all of them. Sister-in-law and brother complaining about this that fall into that category. Yeah.  

[01:11:34] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I I remember that as well.   But, you know, I you really can't take any that any complaints that that brother have has because, well, you know,   he has had, what, like, 5 or 6 concussions from playing soccer, which is supposedly a non violent sport. I I was I was I was just  

[01:11:58] Jesse Fries:

talking about finances. I I'm not not not trying to Yeah.   Not judging or anything? No. Not at all. Not at all. I would never do such a thing.   Yeah.   But,   yeah.   Let's see. Yeah. That's the only thing I have on finances.  

[01:12:17] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   I've I've got one more thing here, Donna, tech related.   Uh-huh. And it involves   clothing of all things. Oh, okay. Uh-huh.   So there's a there's one person that has decided   to put   robotics   and thought   into clothing.   Oh, yeah. So they they put brain scanners on your head.  

[01:12:45] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:12:46] Jamon Fries:

They they've, of course, made them look decent because, you know, it's it's fashion and everything.   Right. But they're they're where your emotional   state   causes changes in what the robotic portions of the clothes do.   There there's one where your emotional state will change the color of the light bulbs.   There's one where, like, if you're if you start feeling like,   it most of it seems to me seems to have   been centered on,   like, your comfort levels of how close people are to you. And so as you get more uncomfortable, your clothes start putting things out that stretch the clothes out further.  

[01:13:32] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:13:34] Jamon Fries:

Like, there's one that in a skirt in a in a skirt, it has, like, little arms that lift the portion of the skirt up to get to spread it out further and stuff like that. Oh, I'm feeling randy. Let's lift up that skirt.  

[01:13:59] Jesse Fries:

Colors when when she was in the mood so you would actually know when you could actually approach your wife. Yep.   Yep.  

[01:14:08] Jamon Fries:

I love it.  

[01:14:12] Jesse Fries:

I'm Randy, honey.  

[01:14:15] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Yep.   You know, and they they they they the the article that I was reading, it was talking about how it was the clothes were controlled by your brain.   And I Which, you know, it would it would be interesting if you could actually individually   control each arm and stuff like that. Right. Right. But since it's all just based on your current emotional   state,   I mean, people's emotional states vary vary so much. They change all the time.   Uh-huh.   You know, I mean so   I suppose it would be good to put them on liberals so that we'd know when when we can afford to talk to them and when we can't.  

[01:14:57] Jesse Fries:

Or or people that needed, like, a cup of coffee. You you know, it's like it's like Yeah. It's like, nope. Not yet. Not yet. Yeah. Not yet. Joe Joe hasn't have his Joe hasn't had his coffee yet. We better not go over there yet. Yep. Yep. Or or it's like, my wife, she hadn't, like,   slept very well for, like, 2 days.   And then last night and so she was cranky yesterday. Like, nobody's business cranking. Yep.   She slept last night. This morning, she was in the best mood ever.   I mean, it was like so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just just little indication out there to the world going, I'm good. I'm good. Yep. Yep. And you know what would make that better? If you guys would actually help us out. We are a value to for value model here at the Mindless Meanderings.   This means, that we need your help. We need your money. We need your talent   and time.  

Anything that you want to give us, would be appreciated, especially money. If you have ideas for topics or anything like that, you can email me,   atjesse@mindlessc.com,   or you can email jayman@jayman@mindlessmeanderings.com.   But also money. Money helps. It'll help actually pay for this podcast, which would be a great thing so it's not coming out of my pocket.   And I'm sure my wife would appreciate that as well.   So if you donate to us, we will even read, like, a email that you send to us or anything like that. If you wanna put it over there, that's cool. Or you could just send us an anonymous letter or anything like that. So please, help us out here at the mindless meandering so we can keep going and maybe actually make some money doing this. That'd be kind of fun.   And let's see here.  

Oh, looks like a   misinformation   expert,   was caught using misinformation   in a court case.  

[01:16:47] Jamon Fries:

Oh, wow.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Burger even. Wow.  

[01:16:53] Jesse Fries:

Yep. So this was up in Minnesota, apparently.   Let's see. This story this is the story I found on not the bee.   It is a a lot in Minnesota designed to target AI and deepfakes,   similar to the Californian one.   Suffered a major blow as one of the star misinformation experts who wrote a document in support of the law, used AI to generate   several false false sources for his paper.   So he he created false sources so he could write about it. So it's,   oh, wow.   Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah.  

[01:17:36] Jamon Fries:

Alright. There's something else going on in Minnesota too. What?   Cargill is closing down one of their factories,   one one of theirs places up there.   It's so amazing. Some I've I've heard people saying, yeah, Trump's not off to the greatest search.   Uh-huh. Like, Trump isn't even in office yet.   How can you blame this on Trump?  

[01:18:00] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. I saw that. They're laying off 8,000 people.   Yeah.   And, I didn't know that was up in Minnesota. Is it solely in Minnesota, the layoffs you know? Or  

[01:18:10] Jamon Fries:

No. It's only, like, 400 people up in Minnesota.  

[01:18:13] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.   But apparently, their province, like, took a huge dive. It was, like,   around COVID, they were up to, like, 6 point something 1000000000 a year. And now they're only at, like, 2 point something 1000000000 a year. So it's like Yeah. That's a huge  

[01:18:29] Jamon Fries:

drop. Oh, yeah. That's a huge drop. Massive drop. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Apparently, they're private though. It's a private company. So Yes. Yes. They are.   Mhmm. Yeah.   I just found it so amusing that people are saying, you know, Trump's off to a great start now and all this other stuff. And I'm like, this has nothing to do with Trump.   Nope. Nope. I mean, this is this is   Trump has no effect on anything yet other than, you know, some nations being like, well, shit. We need to start towing the line again.  

[01:19:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That that has helped, like, international policy and everything like that and Yeah. Getting other countries to do what they need to do for us. Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah. So far, that's pretty much all. Because he doesn't has no control over anything else, at this stage. So  

[01:19:18] Jamon Fries:

And and for for Cargill to have gotten to the point where they're needing to lay off that many people Uh-huh. Because that's been going on for a long time. That's that's not something that's just brand new. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:19:30] Jesse Fries:

Oh, in the science news,   apparently,   the CDC, I think,   has is gonna allow,   HIV positive organ transplants.   Like   what? Yeah. So if a organ is HIV positive, they will allow it to be implanted   into   somebody that already has   yes. Yes. Yes. So but the headline is just HIV positive organ transplants. Not a lot. But, yeah, it's only into people that actually have HIV.  

[01:20:03] Jamon Fries:

So which actually makes sense if you really think about it. It makes sense. It it it makes it a lot better. However, to me,   that open that puts a lot more doctors in contact with it.   Oh, I I I don't worry about that. I mean, I'm no. But, I mean, that that is that is one thing that I'm sure that there are people that are gonna say something about it.   You know, to me, I don't really care because the doctors, well, they deal with HIV quite frequently anyways. Well, I know the blood disease is like, have to find this and Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you're you're not so you're not gonna see a doctor that won't operate on somebody because they've got HIV.   I mean, they'll they'll they'll absolutely be more than willing to put a   a organ from a donor into a person with HIV even if the organ itself does not have HIV.  

But   yes. I mean, it does make a lot of sense to allow it for for   transitions from someone with HIV to another person with HIV.   Yeah. And if you're putting   it opens up a lot more,   organs, which means that   Yep. The organs that don't have HIV, there's a lot more of them in that are available for other people.  

[01:21:16] Jesse Fries:

That don't have HIV. Exactly. I think it's a great thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. I thought it was good idea. I thought it was a good idea too. It just kinda makes sense.  

[01:21:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Just made stuff to the headline. I I was I was like, oh, shit. That's horrible.   That's why I said it like that because it's funny. Since you added the oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, headlines, they wanna make it they wanna get people to read their article. But,   yeah. They're often misleading.  

[01:21:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Let's see here. And then looks   like there some scientists say that there could be tiny black holes   hiding out,   everywhere, actually.   Tiny primordial   black holes, they say,   formed in the earliest moments of our universe.   They say they could be right beneath our feet.  

[01:22:10] Jamon Fries:

I wonder if it can open up and suck me in.  

[01:22:14] Jesse Fries:

That'd be cool.   That's hilarious.  

[01:22:24] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. Well, you know, if if somebody's if somebody's gonna disappear by a black hole, goddamn it. I wanna be the first. Yeah. It makes sense to me. Go down in history. You know? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. No one will ever forget your name.  

[01:22:40] Jesse Fries:

Unless if you get sucked into a black hole, that would actually wipe out any memory of you because we don't know how the physics of black holes really are. See? See? See?   I I'm just making shit up. But   Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Let's see here. Do I have anything else?   Oh, it looks like MSNBC's   ratings have, like, tanked, like, hardcore,   with, you know, Elon Musk and everything like that. Yeah. Trolling them and everything like that. Looks like they got down to an average of 38,000   viewers   at a single time. Wow. That is that's like nothing. That is not we could buy ads on MSNBC,   Jamie. We could we could we could buy ads for cheap  

[01:23:29] Jamon Fries:

for our podcast. Absolutely. We could. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:23:33] Jesse Fries:

Everybody should do it. The the just put the wackiest commercials out on there. That'd be awesome.   It'd be cheap.  

[01:23:42] Jamon Fries:

It would be. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:23:45] Jesse Fries:

And then, do you have anything else? I have one more story, but that's about it.  

[01:23:50] Jamon Fries:

No. I don't see anything else interesting going on in the news right now. Okay.  

[01:23:56] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. I saw the study.   It's about, you know, tipping. You know how tipping has gotten kinda crazy?   Yeah. At stores, and they call it guilt tipping, especially if people are, like, standing over you watching and everything like that. Yeah. So this they did a study and the study shows that you will tip more   if they are standing over you, but you are also less likely to actually return to that place.   So in the end,   they're actually losing out on money than,   not. Yeah. So  

[01:24:29] Jamon Fries:

Yep. Well, I mean, you know, I've I've always known that because,   you know, with DoorDash,   they, you know, they used to be when I ordered Pizza Hut until they gave until COVID happened, you know, where they started giving you the option to leave it at your door. Uh-huh.   When the when the Pizza Hut driver showed up, knocked on the door, I would always give them a tip   even though I am so dead set against tipping.   I I I personally think that tipping is it's a gratuity.   Right. It's a gratuity for x for outstanding service. Yep. If you don't provide a service that's outstanding, you're not going to get a tip.  

[01:25:07] Jesse Fries:

Well, to me, it's like at a restaurant, it's like you just normally tip 15% in my book. That that that's what I do. It's like   it's it's their job. They especially waiters and everything like that, they get paid shit.  

[01:25:21] Jamon Fries:

Yes. But I'm   I the the reason that I don't tip   Uh-huh. And I know that it I know that it that some people may find this bad,   but   I I will only tip a waiter that goes above and beyond.   If as if if my water glass never hits empty   and if if they're they're available, if I need something, if they're there within, like, a minute of me asking for help.   Uh-huh. That to me, that's a good waiter, and I will give them a tip. But otherwise, you won't. If I have  

[01:25:58] Jesse Fries:

no. Nothing. You are a cheapskate, dude. Nothing for me. You are a cheapskate.  

[01:26:05] Jamon Fries:

The only reason the tipping is the cult is the culture that we have now   is because of a few rich people back in the day   that would tip their that would tip their waiters all the time.   Because of that,   the government decided   that those that those people would that the people that were getting those tips didn't have to adhere to to minimum wage laws.  

[01:26:28] Jesse Fries:

Well, right. Right.   I read one because of tipping,  

[01:26:32] Jamon Fries:

we made it so we have to tip.  

[01:26:34] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. No. I understand. I I also read this one,   article. I'm not sure. I it was just one article, so I don't know if it was accurate or whatnot. But, basically, it says that tipping really started in the United States   roughly when   blacks were freed.   And so, basically, the way they could get away with not paying them was to make it so you work for tips   instead of actually Yep. Yeah. So that's   yeah. Yep. But yeah. It's gotten crazy now, and it's funny. It's like it's like Oh, yeah. I saw this one post. It was, like, going, oh,   you should just tip. It said, this is how you should tip. So you take   the the   the dollar amount, move the decimal point, and then you times it by 3.  

And I'm like, oh, 3? That that that's 30%.   It's like Yeah. Even even if they're freaking awesome, you know, unless if they're showing me their boobs,   I'm not gonna be tipping them 30%. There's just no way. Absolutely.  

[01:27:31] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely.   It's it's gotten so insane. You you you know, they've got those pre programmed tip amounts   where you can select between giving 15, 25, and 30%   or stuff like that. Right.   I've seen I've seen that upper the upper one at like 40%   before.   Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. It's You're you're you're you're telling me that you want me to give your waiter   almost half of what I paid for this food. Yep. Considering that with the price of food now, you can't really get a meal   for less than 15 to $20.   Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. In a lot of restaurants.  

[01:28:12] Jesse Fries:

And it's funny to go, oh, wait. It's inflation, so you you should tip more. No. No. No. The percentage doesn't change because everything else has gone up, so you stick with the same percentage   because you're still getting more from that.  

[01:28:25] Jamon Fries:

Than you were before because If I give 10%   if I give 10% when it costs $10, it means that they get a dollar. Yep. If I get to if I give 10% when it costs $20, it means I get $2. Yeah. So if you Which means the difference increased   with inflation.  

[01:28:39] Jesse Fries:

Yes. Exactly with inflation, which is the perfect amount that you should tip more. You should tip more even more. You know? It's like, no. No.   It's a   but, yeah, it looks like, Well, it's it's like weird  

[01:28:52] Jamon Fries:

we the I I also find it amusing because you've got so cost of food has gotten so freaking insane   Uh-huh. That you've got people that can't afford to eat anymore   because of how much more expensive the food is.   And yet you want me to tip even more than I was tipping before?   Yeah. A higher percentage even, you know? Yeah. I know. Like I'd be I'd be okay if it was the same percentage, but you want me to hit up a higher percentage now because of inflation? I already can't afford your food.   I already have to save up 2 weeks to be able to afford to eat here. Now you want me to give them   half as much more? Uh-huh. Twice as much money because I'm eating here?  

Hell no.  

[01:29:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.   It's pure craziness.   And they need to stop it. That's all. Yeah. That is all they need to do. And with that, we should also stop our podcast. So thank you for joining. It's been a while.   So thank you for joining us for episode number 14   of the Mindless Me Andrews podcast.   I'm Jesse Fries.   And I'm Jamin Fries. And you guys have a good day. And please remember, donate to us. We could use the money and actually help pay for this thing.   You guys have a great one.