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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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[00:00:20] Jesse Fries:

Good afternoon, everybody. It is,   November 20, and it is   Thursday,   the last Thursday until Thanksgiving.   And I'm Jesse Fries, and   I'm about to go on a road trip in a EV, so that should be   something.  

[00:00:39] Jamon Fries:

Fun. Yeah.   And I'm Jamin Fries, and   I am looking for a good cast iron skillet.  

[00:00:49] Jesse Fries:

I think just anyone, dude.   I guess. Yeah.   It's iron, dude.  

[00:00:57] Jamon Fries:

No. I I know that, but I've   the the one thing that I've I like the old cast iron skillet that mom and dad that mom had that have this smooth that are smooth on the inside.  

[00:01:09] Jesse Fries:

Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's just  

[00:01:12] Jamon Fries:

wear and   tear. No. That's not wear and tear.   The it what what it is is that up until I I don't remember exactly when the switch was made, but the when they were producing   the the skillets, when Lodge and all the other manufacturers were producing the skillets,   they would grind them down smooth.   Oh, okay.   But they found   that the spray,   that they decided to pre seal them at that point in time, you you really you you had to do the your own seasoning. They didn't pre season them,   not so much.   And they when they started decide when they decided to pre season them,   they found that that smooth surface   did not adhere the seasoning that they were wanting to put onto it very well because they would just hang it upside down and spray it on. Got it. Got it.  

And so they they started playing around with it, and they found that if they didn't sand   the the ridges and stuff down Right. That it would hold this that it would hold that, seasoning a lot better. Oh, okay.   That's that's why you that's why it's very difficult now to find the cast iron without   with that that's   that's,  

[00:02:30] Jesse Fries:

that's ground flat. Well, then you just have to hit up,   like, state sales.  

[00:02:37] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I've I've been Yeah. I've I've looked on eBay and stuff like that.   But I there's also Or I did find a few Or or or you just wait, like manufacturers.   What?   I I did find a few manufacturers that make   smooth   cast iron skillets. Uh-huh.   Now now if you search for smooth   skillets,   it'll   they'll they'll show you the manufacturers that do them smooth because some have started to do them. Oh, okay.   But   a large cast iron skillet costs $30.40   dollars.  

[00:03:10] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:03:12] Jamon Fries:

These cast iron skillets of the same size cost a 170   to $250.  

[00:03:20] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That sounds about right. It sounds about right. It's,  

[00:03:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:03:26] Jesse Fries:

Things are not cheap anymore. It's just  

[00:03:29] Jamon Fries:

No. No. No.   Yeah.   Although, you know, it it's almost cheaper to buy a,   circular sander.   Mhmm.  

[00:03:40] Jesse Fries:

And just  

[00:03:41] Jamon Fries:

sand down the those metal ridges to make it smooth. Yeah. Yeah. So I've I've actually been thinking about doing that with my cast iron because   no matter what they say,   they say, you know, it's still nonstick and all this other stuff.   But when I scoop out eggs from a   eggs from my pan,   there's still egg stuff down in those little tiny ridges. Yeah. No. I've never understood why you have ridges. It just doesn't make much sense. You know? It's Yeah. It it it's all because the the, spray that they use for seasoning   can adhere better to the pan with it. It. So yeah. Yeah. I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. You you you know, it's like It's fine if you're using it for, like, steak or something like that. But if you wanna cook something that sticks Right. Impossible.  



[00:04:27] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely.   Yeah. I got rid of all my,   nonstick pans.   And I just went with stainless steel. I do have a cast iron, but   once again, it it it's it's not smooth. So Yeah. Yeah. Steaks is great. Pancakes, it works okay.   Yep.   But yeah. Eggs? No freaking way. Oh, no. Not a chance in hell.  

[00:04:52] Jamon Fries:

And I I'm doing the same. I'm trying to get rid of all my nonstick. The I still have one nonstick.   It's the, ceramic   coating one. Mhmm.   So it's not as bad as Teflon or anything like that, but I haven't bought Teflon   in a long time. Yeah. But it see, I looked into those ceramic But there's still there's still it's glue that those chemicals and those glue, if you heat it up too much, you know, the food and it's There's actually no there's actually no ceramic in it.   Yeah. In a lot of them.  

[00:05:22] Jesse Fries:

In the ceramic, there's no ceramic in it. So it's like Yeah. It's just yeah. No. I I I looked at so I I really was trying to find something because,   you know, trying to get rid of those chemicals and everything like that. And I Yeah. Be because the problem with nonstick, I   chemicals and whatnot. But every,   what,   three years, you have to buy a new one.   Oh, yeah. Because the scratches. Even if you use plastic and everything like that for the Yeah. Absolutely. Specialists and everything. With with my with my, quote, unquote, ceramic one,  

[00:05:55] Jamon Fries:

I use nothing but,   silicone spatulas and Mhmm. And, and stuff like that on it. Right. So it doesn't scratch. Uh-huh. But   I've been using it now for about three years, and   my eggs are starting to stick to it even no matter how much I can put in two tablespoons of oil into it. Uh-huh. And if I'm trying to fry an egg, it's still sticking to it. Yeah. Yeah. Just you you know, it's like you could  

[00:06:23] Jesse Fries:

you could get a a cast iron. Yeah. Or learn how to do it on stainless. You know? Because stainless, if you cook it right, if you get it, like,   cranking hot,  

[00:06:34] Jamon Fries:

technically, you can make it so it's nonstick. Now I've never perfected it on myself. I did I also I also read something about stainless of of a of a way to   make it almost guaranteed that it's that it won't stick. Mhmm. You do waste a little bit of oil doing this. Right. What they say to do is   to put oil in the pan, heat it up really hot. So you've got very hot oil in there. It's coating everything really good. Right. Dump that oil out, put cold oil in, and then put your food in. Wow. Interesting. And that'll that supposedly   makes it completely nonstick. You don't, like, wipe out the old oil or anything like it. You just pour it out Right. Because it's been partially burnt and stuff by then. It's gotten to our past its smoking point.  

So you pour that oil out, put fresh oil in, and then you can cook, and it's supposedly completely nonstick. I've never tried it, but,   it's what they say you can do with it. So  

[00:07:28] Jesse Fries:

Well, that's good. That's good. Yeah.   Let's see.  

[00:07:32] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Well I got those I got that from a from, like, a professional   chef,  

[00:07:37] Jesse Fries:

YouTube video I watched. So Okay. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Well, let's get into the show, and let's start let let let let's start with sedition. Because sedition is fun. Right? Treason It is. And it's a great place to start. It is. It's the perfect place to start. So let let let's just   off with what was actually said in   the the this whole little video that, some Democrats and they'll name themselves some Democrats actually said. So here we go. Let me know if you can't hear it.  

[00:08:09] Unknown:

I'm senator Alyssa Slotkin. Senator Mark Kelly.  

[00:08:14] Unknown:

It's buffer. Chris D'Elizio. Congressman Maggie Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Houlihan. Congressman Jason Crowe. That was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer. Former Navy. Former paratrooper and army ranger. Former intelligence officer. Former Air Force. We wanna speak directly to members of the military And the intelligence community. Who take risks each day To keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military But that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens. Like us. You all swore an oath To protect and  

[00:08:52] Unknown:

defend  

[00:08:52] Unknown:

this constitution. Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from abroad but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.  

[00:09:01] Unknown:

You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.  

[00:09:10] Unknown:

We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving in the CIA In the army or navy the air force Your vigilance is critical. And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever The American people need you. We need you to stand up for our laws Our constitution and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up the ship.  

[00:09:42] Jesse Fries:

So   that's what they said. I   yeah. Don't give up the ship. I what the fuck is don't give up the ship? I  

[00:09:50] Jamon Fries:

any clue? I don't know.   Essentially well, don't give up the the ship means that even though Trump is in charge, all you Democrats in in the military and in the intelligence agencies,   you gotta hold firm and, you know,   not do what he says. Yeah.  

[00:10:14] Jesse Fries:

And then he's they they said that   they basically said Trump is completely against the American people. He's attacking the American people, blah blah blah.  

[00:10:23] Jamon Fries:

And according to the the essentially, they said that he's already breaking the the law Right. With his with the actions that he's taken. Right. Right. Which I I haven't seen not.  

[00:10:37] Jesse Fries:

Not not like   nothing's,   like,   to the point where you wouldn't do the order. You know? It's like, well Yeah. Like, that that could be ambiguous, but the courts might side with him. You you you know what I mean? Like, sending marines in. I I could see where Right. But it's like, he's there there was no   to me, that sort of thing. It's like,   when not not just,   it's kinda like, where it have to be, like, felony level   illegal orders. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not not like, because how many people do do you think actually give orders of going, you need to go get me food right now? You know, that's probably illegal, you know, of some sort. You know? Yeah. The extreme like a slave. I I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know exactly what the uniform code is or anything like that. But   to   yeah. No. I don't see   this.  

Did you see Trump's response to this?  

[00:11:37] Jamon Fries:

No. I didn't.  

[00:11:39] Jesse Fries:

Oh, he he went off. He was, like, go he was saying that what they did is punishable by death,   because it's seditioned. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   It's   And  

[00:11:53] Jamon Fries:

not not only did they try to incite sedition, but they there's another aspect in of where they, try where they said that they would provide support for the sedition.  

[00:12:04] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Exactly. We got your back. We got your back.   Exactly. You know, I'm so glad I moved out of Michigan. Otherwise, that slot gun would be my freaking senator.   It's Oh, yeah. That would be horrible. Yeah. No. Trump said in one of his, posts, he said it's called seditious behavior at the highest level. Each one of these traitors to our country should be arrested and put on trial. Their words cannot be allowed to stand. We won't have a country anymore. An example must be set, president DJT.  

[00:12:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Well, every you know, all of this all the actions that Trump has taken that the with the military that   they would potentially   ignore his orders for Mhmm.   He runs them through lawyers first.   He makes sure that there's that he has the legal ability to do something like that.  

[00:12:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   No. They do. Yeah. Completely. Yeah. Completely. You you you know, it's like,   yeah. No. It it's it's just all hilarious. I I just don't they they they set up justifications   for killing and then Yeah. Like those Venice like those, fishermen or whatnot. Yeah.   Oh, I I read the story. It was   I read the story in the AP. It was hilarious. The AP   was saying something along the lines of these were just fishermen,   just good guys and everything like that,   but they were smuggling drugs.   You know? It's like,  

[00:13:37] Jamon Fries:

sure. May maybe in their off time, they fish.   Well, but in the boats that they're using, they're not fishing.   Well, with At the time, they're not fishing. Period. They're not fishing. And you know Or they are not out there as fishermen.  

[00:13:53] Jesse Fries:

No. Exactly. And I understand,   you're poor. You need money.   I understand. Yeah. I I do understand   it. I feel your pain, everything like that. But Yeah. To call them fishermen when they're running illegal drugs and everything like that is a bit it's they might not be part of the cartel necessarily,   but Yeah. They're working for the cartel necessarily. Yeah. You know? It's like   so so yeah. Yeah. No. It's hilarious. It it's hilarious. But, yeah, the this whole video, it's   I can't believe they had the to do it. You know? Let's see where this goes because this is seriously, this is outrageous behavior. Yeah. It it's  

[00:14:36] Jamon Fries:

I see. In a in a manner of   legality, they were calling for a coup.  

[00:14:43] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. They really were. Yeah. They they they want the military to disobey the president. You know? They they they there was the call to do this last time he was president as well. Yep. You know? It it's like it's it's complete bullshit is what it is. It is. Yeah. We voted for him. Just because you don't like his fucking politics,   we'll suck an egg. We won.   Go suck your thumb. You know? That's basically what Obama told the Republicans to do once. So, you know, you do the same thing, and you   chill. You chill the fuck out. Yeah.  

[00:15:15] Jamon Fries:

And, I mean, these these people must not know   constitutional   law at all.  

[00:15:22] Jesse Fries:

Well, some of them are lawyers, whatnot. But, you know, Slotkin, she was CIA. Well And, you know, CIA, all they care about is whatever they wanna do. They actually don't care about laws or anything.  

[00:15:32] Jamon Fries:

And if I remember right, Slotkin was the one that initiated all of this. Yeah. Slotkin is the one that started this. Yep. Completely. So, basically, it's a psyop. It it's all it is is a psyop.  

[00:15:45] Jesse Fries:

Maybe not a psyop,   possibly because some of the this one guy, it was, like, one of the responses   on   x. Let me see if I can   find it here.   One of the responses,   it was from some guy named Rick,   third Ma   El Toro or something like that. Because I'm a Vietnam vet. I carried a rifle when   politicians in Washington and Saigon said careless things on TV and in briefings. Young men listened.   Some took it the wrong way. Some hesitated   when they shouldn't have. Some did things they can never unseen because of the words   from on high or sloppy, political, or just plain reckless.  

Good kids died. Innocent villagers died.   Units broke in ways you can't fix with another medal or another apology.   These troops were,   these troops you're talking to right now are somebody's sons and daughters. They're proud. They're armed. They're trained to be lethal, and they still believe that their country   they still believe what their country tells them, most of them, most of the time.   Be precise. Be careful. Be worthy of the power you have over your their judgment when you speak publicly   about illegal orders and oaths and standing up.   You're not talking to voters   you can spin. You are talking to young men and women who will act on what they hear. And the margin between discipline and tragedy   is razor thin when trust starts to crack.  

I've seen it. I've buried friends because of it.   Choose every word like life depends on it because they do.   Respectfully, a grunt who came home.   I think that says it all.  

[00:17:30] Jamon Fries:

Very elegant. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.  

[00:17:33] Jesse Fries:

It's   no. It it is. But because people will take this the wrong way.  

[00:17:38] Jamon Fries:

They will. Absolutely. Yes.  

[00:17:41] Jesse Fries:

It's just what it is. You you know, these young men and women, they believe their leaders.   Yeah. And and then some will just disobey regular orders.  

[00:17:51] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. To me, the biggest problem with this is that   when you join the military,   you do what the military tells you to do. You do what your commanders tell you to to do. Right.   You may not know why you're doing it. Yep. You may not   quite approve of it.   You may think in the back of the head, do we really need to do this?   Mhmm.   But when it comes down to it and and so those are the people that are gonna get confused.   Why are we here? Why are we doing this? You know, should we   is   and now you've got congresspeople,   people from congress telling them,   you can you can ignore the orders.  

Yeah.   That is dangerous.  

[00:18:40] Jesse Fries:

It is very dangerous.   It it really is. It is completely   it   yeah. Yeah. No. It's completely dangerous. It's all it's gonna do is cause problems.   Somebody could die because of it.   Yep.   Many people could lose their careers because of it.   Oh, yeah. I I I've   this hate. I swear to God, this hate that Yeah. They have   is just   it is unbelievable,   the amount of hate this It really is. Yes.   I I I just don't understand it. How can you have No. This much hate?  

[00:19:21] Jamon Fries:

It's   this is Actually, when it's when it's over something that's not real.  

[00:19:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Well well, actually   well, to Slotkin, she's a CIA operative, so or analyst, whatever. But, basically,   she's deep state, deeper than deep deep state. Oh, yeah. And so you get that and everything like that.  

[00:19:46] Jamon Fries:

I I bet she really I I I could understand her her considering Trump the enemy because Trump wants to get rid of the deep deep state. Yeah. But you still keep it inside, dude. Playing stuff, dude. It's just you don't do this crap. I I really don't. You you don't do sedition.   Sedition is not the key.  

[00:20:05] Jesse Fries:

No. It won't well, may land you somewhere. But   Yeah.  

[00:20:10] Jamon Fries:

You won't like where it lands you, though.  

[00:20:12] Jesse Fries:

You know, we still have over three years of Trump presidency.   Yeah.   We still have over three years of this.   Shouldn't you pick your battles a little bit better? I'm just saying. One one would think so. Yeah. Because this is just   if this is this if this is just the tip of the iceberg, where the fuck is this gonna go? Where are you taking a slot in?  

[00:20:36] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I don't think they even think about that. I don't think they they have no idea where they're taking it other than to socialism. I mean, that's that's the end goal, of course.   Well, yeah. Yeah.   But I mean, they they they don't even know where it's gonna go. Because if they did,   so many of the shit that they do wouldn't get done.   I agree. I agree. Hey, it's I mean, all that I from what I from what I see,   I see them trying to create so much anarchy that the only method of controlling the anarchy is   the civil war   or is   either socialist either everyone goes to socialism or   there's a war between those who want socialism and those who don't. Or a true imperial president,  

[00:21:24] Jesse Fries:

you know. Yeah.   So basically,   just roam all over again.  

[00:21:29] Jamon Fries:

Right. Yeah.   That was the possibility. But, I mean, those are really the only options.   Because   once the anarchy hits a certain point  

[00:21:40] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:21:41] Jamon Fries:

There's nothing you can do. There's no other option. You can't handle it democratically anymore.  

[00:21:48] Jesse Fries:

That that's what they want. They they they I know. They they lost democratically   or Yeah. The system that we have, and so now they wanna break it.   Yeah. That that that's,  

[00:21:59] Jamon Fries:

that's end all be all. You know? It's Well, I mean, slowly, they've been losing the democratically anyways. I mean, you know, that's because, I mean, like I said, their end goal is socialism or communism, and there's absolutely nothing democratic about those. You you know, I I I think that's the far left. I'm not sure if every Democrat would fall into that. No. Not not every Democrat falls into that. There there are the there are still the old,  

[00:22:24] Jesse Fries:

Clinton era Democrat. Well, I would say as long as they're not Gen z, I would probably say. Yeah. Or younger millennial. Yeah. Of course, there's some in there, there are Yeah. In every generation. But   I I think it's the young that actually want communism.   I I don't think anybody else really wants to come. But then when you're poor and young because when you're young, you're poor. That's just how life works.   Yeah. And everybody has gone through these people. Everybody has been young and poor. I Yeah. Unless if, you come from a very, very, very wealthy family, you have been young and poor. You had to try to make it on your own.   You you know? And, generally, that generation or that age, yeah, they'll take a handout.  

You know? They   of course, they will. You know? Especially with,   you you know, everything's expensive. I remember when   I was a kid, back in my day,   you know, rent was high. It still was high. They   Yeah. Tell me a time when it wasn't high. You know? It's  

[00:23:27] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. I'm You know? It's   Rent rent back then   was, if if you take inflation into account, it was   approximately   the same.   Mhmm.   Now   house the ownership of houses was cheaper. That definitely.   It was easier to buy a house back then.   Well, yeah. But Yeah.   I think that the reason for that is because   unlike now,   where   any property that goes up for sale   is automatically bought by investors   so that they can charge rent to somebody  

[00:24:08] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   That didn't happen so much back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It really did. You would have a couple houses   Yeah. With, yeah, there weren't these huge there of course, there were, like   the people that did that sort of thing, they did, like, apartment complexes.  

[00:24:24] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes.   They really didn't buy a house. They they weren't doing individual houses at that point in time. Yeah. Because there wasn't anybody that was I mean, if you were willing to rent,   you were willing to live in an apartment.   You you weren't even looking at houses to rent. Well, sometimes you would, but, yeah, in general. Sometimes, but not not not in the not the majority.   Yep. Yeah. I agree. I agree.  

[00:24:47] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Yeah. And   yeah.   What else do you got, Jaywind?  

[00:24:54] Jamon Fries:

Well,   okay. Let's see here.   So you you you know the Arctic Frost provision   Right. Was put into the end of the bill   that allows that allows the people whose the the congressman whose phones were tapped   Right. And whose records were were to be able to sue the government. Right.   Well, the house has now   has now,   voted to repeal that Arctic Cross provision from the shutdown bill. Yep. Yep. Yep.   So we'll see how we'll see where that goes. I'd I   kind of agree with it because,   yeah. No. You can go after the people that did it. You can charge them with with the with the crimes that they committed. But Well, you could charge the government as well. You you but you take it  

[00:25:45] Jesse Fries:

to through the normal process.   You know? You you sue them and everything like that. You know? It's,  

[00:25:52] Jamon Fries:

that's what The the congressman   cannot sue the government. They can't? I don't think. I don't think so.   I could be wrong. I  

[00:26:01] Jesse Fries:

wouldn't see why not. If they're being part of it. Yeah. No. But it's their personal stuff. Government. No.   Yeah.   No.   I understand what you're saying, but,   no. You if you even if you work for the government, you can sue the government. That's just how it is.   Yeah. If you've been wronged by the government.   Yeah.   Let's see. Why not?   Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm gonna see why not. Yeah.   Just let it go as normal course. That's what I say. Yeah. It's a It's All these houses nearly  

[00:26:40] Jamon Fries:

okay. So it's nearly impossible   for anyone to sue the government.  

[00:26:46] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. No. I agree. I agree. Yeah.   You have to get the government's permission to sue the government. Yeah.  

[00:26:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   And so, essentially, in the bill, these   senators   gave themselves permission to sue the government.  

[00:27:03] Jesse Fries:

Well, I think they have a right to sue the government, and,   generally, judges will allow it. So, you know, especially if, there was,   you you just have to get the right judge. You know, Ted Cruz, he should definitely,   sue in Texas.   Maybe all of them should. Yeah. It's,   not not in DC because I won't go anywhere.  

[00:27:23] Jamon Fries:

No. No. And then they also need to, really go after those phone companies.  

[00:27:30] Jesse Fries:

Oh,   I   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Except for what is who was it? Ted Cruz's? Was that T Mobile or Verizon? I can't remember.  

[00:27:39] Jamon Fries:

I don't know. But,  

[00:27:41] Jesse Fries:

whoever he had didn't give up his records.   But I heard AT and T gave up McCarthy's records.  

[00:27:49] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Eight AT and T didn't put up any resistance from what I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. Shady. Shady. Shady. Mhmm. Mhmm.   Okay. I think it was T Mobile. I I think I think T Mobile is the one that refused to to give out their records. Okay. Okay.   Which is what should have happened to begin with.   Everyone would have done that.  

[00:28:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It it but, you know, if sometime   they they was   they go, let's just do what they want. Yeah. It's just Yeah. Yeah. Especially AT and T. AT and T is my mail for grace sakes. You know? So Yeah. Yeah. Now that's a reference that nobody  

[00:28:25] Jamon Fries:

probably younger than me. Few people. Oh, yeah. No. Nobody younger than you would know it. And I I would be willing to bet that even a lot of people our age wouldn't know it. Yeah. No kidding. It was old at that point in time. It was. They had been broken up a long time.   Yeah.  

[00:28:43] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Let's see here.   I'll I'll save that one for last of in this segment because it's messed up you.  

[00:28:51] Jamon Fries:

Okay. Let's do your Microsoft one. There's the okay. The Microsoft one. So, the Department of Energy, you remember   a month or two ago, I told you that, eight that Microsoft was trying to restart one of the three mile island reactors. Yeah. Yeah.   They were investing in it, and the company that that runs it was, like, it's gonna cost about 1,600,000,000.0   or so to get it back in line. Mhmm. Well,   the, Department of Energy has decided to   give them a billion dollar loan to help restart the 3 Mile Island reactors. So they've   it covers just just over half of what what it's gonna cost to do it. So  

[00:29:36] Jesse Fries:

Must be   nice.  

[00:29:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   But it but it is just a loan, so they will have to pay it back Sure. Technically,   supposedly.   Sure. I mean, that that worked that worked really great with all the banks and all the dealers and stuff like that. I mean, you know. Yeah. We're great. Yeah.  

[00:29:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   But Let's see.   Yeah. So Epstein,   Yep. Let's see. Trump signed the bill, that compels the release of Epstein documents.  

[00:30:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So He signed it real quick too.  

[00:30:10] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah.   It it was it was veto proof anyways.  

[00:30:15] Jamon Fries:

So it was just But but, I mean, it's  

[00:30:19] Jesse Fries:

he was anxious for the bill to get on his desk. No. Yeah. He was. He wanted it. He wanted it. Yeah. It's   he said, yeah. Let's do this. You know?   I really think what it was is it was like, at first, you know, he was all about the Epstein files getting released and everything like that during his campaign and everything like that. He got into power, and they go, these are the people that are on that list, and he's going, oh, shit,   man. You know? He goes, I was gonna fuck some people over.   And he goes,   those are my friends.  

And,   yeah, political allies.   And so, yeah, let's not do that.   And so he decided to make it this whole thing of going, who cares? You know, it's just a democratic conspiracy. Blah blah blah blah blah. And then the democrats jumped on board.   And as in they started attacking Trump going, oh, Trump doesn't want it to because he's on it and blah blah blah blah. And then we get,   Trump's sucking   Bubba's dick.   Whoever Bubba is, I don't know.  

[00:31:24] Jamon Fries:

And  

[00:31:25] Jesse Fries:

they they they're they're saying that that's Clinton because Clinton went went by the nickname of Bubba from time to time. Yeah. But there's another guy that went by the name of Bubba as well, so it could be him too. But the funniest one is that Maxwell, Jules Zane Maxwell, had a horse named Bubba.   Oh my god.   That's the funniest one.   Oh, wow.   Wow.   So,   so, basically,   with all that, you know, Trump Trump is okay. Well, this is done. Let's just get this over and done with this. It's not gonna shut up until we get it out there. So he goes, yeah. Let's do it quick. Let's do it quick. Get it over and done with, rip the Band Aid, and say fuck it all because it's gonna happen either way.   Yeah. But it's still not everything going out. Well, of course not because there's national security shit and everything like that in there. Yeah. Yeah. And anything that's not classified  

[00:32:23] Jamon Fries:

will be released.  

[00:32:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. And there's a good chance that he worked from Assad. You know, there's that whole conspiracy. Yep. So if that's the case, that's all gonna be blacked out.  

[00:32:32] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. So   this isn't gonna shut anybody up. They're still gonna say you didn't give us everything. Of course. Of course. It doesn't matter. Nope. Yeah. No. Yeah. And yeah. I I did the one thing that I found very interesting about it is it didn't even get voted on in the senate.  

[00:32:52] Jesse Fries:

No. It was just unanimous consent. Yep. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:32:56] Jamon Fries:

You very rarely hear about unanimous consent in the senate.  

[00:33:00] Jesse Fries:

That is true. That is true. You rarely rarely ever hear about it, but it it does happen every so often.   Yep.  

[00:33:10] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. And so now onto your   bad story.  

[00:33:14] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So   so,   apparently, you you so, you know, the border patrol, they can pretty much   the Supreme Court has said they can work within, like, a 100 miles of,   border and everything like that. Well Yep.   It looks like they're doing this everywhere. They're they're they're actually monitoring   drivers nationwide,   apparently.   They they set up cameras   along the freeways,   and then they   if they suspect anything based off of your route or whatnot, they pass it off to local Leos.  

[00:33:52] Jamon Fries:

Even the busier in Kansas?  

[00:33:54] Jesse Fries:

I believe everywhere.   Let's see here. Wow.   Predictive intelligence program.   Yeah. Once limited to policing the nation's boundaries, the border patrol has built a surveillance system stretching into the country's interior   that can monitor ordinary American daily actions and connections   for anomalies instead of simply targeting wanted suspects.  

[00:34:22] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's hugely problematic.  

[00:34:25] Jesse Fries:

Oh, I agree.   I agree. It it's fucked up. Leave me alone.   Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No surveillance state. Uh-uh. No. What? No. God, no.  

[00:34:35] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So It's bad enough having the it's bad enough having having cameras at every fucking stoplight.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:34:43] Jesse Fries:

I I I find it yeah. No. I don't like it at all.   It needs to be ended.   Plain and simple.  

[00:34:52] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Because the problem with this is that suddenly,   you're investigating people with absolutely no cause.   Mhmm.   You know, if if they see behavior that they think is questionable,   in other words, if you   drive towards the border too often   Yep.   They have local Leos start investigating   you.   But   the local Leos aren't just gonna be investigating what you're doing doing driving that route.  

[00:35:23] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:35:24] Jamon Fries:

They're gonna be looking at every single aspect of you. So based on this,   just the just the fact that   you   drove somewhere that they thought might that you were driving in a in a way that that they thought might mean that you're dealing with the illegals.   Mhmm.   You could be   investigated   for everything   possible   with absolutely zero proof that you've ever done anything wrong.   Yeah.  

[00:35:56] Jesse Fries:

No. Yeah. That's fucked up. It it really is fucked up.   Apparently, the the border patrol defined their own criteria for suspicious driver behavior, and some of the suspicious things tied to   drugs and human trafficking is,   driving on backcountry roads,   being in a rent   being in a rental car, or making short trips to the border region.   Yeah. So   yeah, babe.   Oh, yeah. Fuck no. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No.   Oh, just so everybody knows be shut down quickly. It it really does. It really does. Just so everybody knows, you probably heard it today. I've been saying fuck a lot, and it is my word of the week. Just saying. I it's been in everything. I've been saying it left and right even   with the wife. Not around the kids. It's a good word. Wife. I think it's just Definitely not around the the kids. But, yes, it's a great word. It's a fucktastic word. You know? It's   Yeah.  



[00:36:58] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, that story, I'd you know, that story, that brings out the old trucker in me. I'm gonna be cursing about what I Yeah.   Talk about or think about that one. Yeah. It is completely messed up. Completely messed up.   Let's see. You know that you know that a group that's gonna get targeted immensely is gonna be the truck drivers.  

[00:37:18] Jesse Fries:

Oh,  

[00:37:19] Jamon Fries:

of course. Of course, dude. I mean, not only are you driving everywhere that they think is problematic,   but you're also   carrying a   48 or 53 foot trailer potentially.  

[00:37:32] Jesse Fries:

Can't they just pull you over for anything? Could be put in. Jamen. What's that? Can't they just pull you over for anything?   No.  

[00:37:39] Jamon Fries:

A truck driver? Can't they just pull you over for anything? No? No. There are certain areas where they can pull you over where they can make you stop and show your log book. Uh-huh. Unless you've been involved in a traffic incident   or have been, pulled over legitimately for speeding or something like that Uh-huh. They cannot pull you just pull you over on the side of the road to inspect.   Oh, okay. Okay.   Good to know. Any weigh station, they can have you pull in behind the weigh station to inspect your vehicle. Mhmm. But that's the only place that they can do it. Oh, okay. Okay. That works. Anyways, that was the rule back in 2000. So, you know, I haven't driven since 2003.   So, you know, things may have changed. But Yeah. That was the way it was when I was driving. Mhmm. Makes sense. Makes sense.  



[00:38:24] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. What else do we got? Oh,   we we we told us I I talked about a story a while ago,   how an astronaut   had,   like, stolen something from her wife,   while she was up in space, you know, like fraud and everything like that, bank fraud and everything. Yeah. Yeah.   Apparently, the wife lied about it.   So so now the wife is in jail instead of the astronaut.   So   so   because of that,   we no longer have our first space crime   that we know of. Damn it. I know. Right? I wanted the first one. You know? I know.  

[00:39:09] Jamon Fries:

We here in The US, we're about first with everything. We need to have the first space. Exactly.  

[00:39:15] Jesse Fries:

That's what I'm thinking.  

[00:39:17] Jamon Fries:

You know, what what we need to do is just have some American up there just push somebody out the airlock. That way we can have our first first space worker.   Hopefully.  

[00:39:28] Jesse Fries:

While they're in the suit. Tethered. Yeah. While while they're in their suit. Yes.  

[00:39:32] Jamon Fries:

Well, let's make it attempted murder. That way, you know, you you you push them out and put their tethered in.  

[00:39:42] Jesse Fries:

No, Jamie. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. That would be bad. Petty crime, Jamie. Petty crime.  

[00:39:49] Jamon Fries:

Jeez. Why are you going that far? It's a a Why don't the Americans gotta be first at everything?  

[00:39:56] Jesse Fries:

Sure. Sure.   Yeah.   Okay. What you got, Jamin?  

[00:40:02] Jamon Fries:

Well,   there is   problems that   the electric grid is looking at that could arise during the winter.  

[00:40:13] Jesse Fries:

Of course. What are these ones?  

[00:40:16] Jamon Fries:

With all of the energy consumption by the data centers. Mhmm. That that have recently start just started popping up everywhere. There are risks   of blackouts   because of too much energy being drawn on the system during winter storms.   So your your heaters start kicking on the high and are running all the time. Uh-huh. That causes a huge strain normally, and they can they can compensate for that. They're they're designed to compensate for that usually. Right. But with all of the extra energy   being   drawn by   data centers, they are there's some concern that they may not be able to compensate enough.  



[00:40:52] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm. Yeah. No. I just lead to blackouts   kind of like what happened in Texas. So Yeah. And, '21. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. We missed it.   We missed   it. We moved that year. We missed it. Thank god.   Yep.  

[00:41:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. That's messed up. That's messed up. Yeah. So that that's one concern that, that some people have about the electric grid. So   Mhmm. And Texas is Texas is one of the big ones because a lot of data centers have been going up in Texas like Oh, yeah. Yeah. Definitely.  

[00:41:25] Jesse Fries:

And we have just a crappy electrical   system.   Yeah. As in how we pay for it is just stupid. It it really makes no sense, but I'm not gonna get here. It's a stupid system.   Yep. But but but talk about, like, energy and paying for it. Apparently,   they did average of, how much people pay and everything like that. And they say that   well,   they this whole thing says black families pay more to keep their houses warm than average American families. That's the headline.   Right? Okay. So, apparently, black families are, we're we're gouging black families. It is how the headline would actually   make you think. Right? Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It would make you think that that they pay more per kilowatt hour than a white family does. Correct. Correct. Correct. But that's not the case. That's not the case at all. What it is   is its percentage of your income.  

So you pay a higher percentage of your income if you're poor,   not black. Yeah. Poor. No. Just because a lot of black people are poor   doesn't mean shit. It's poor people that pay more  

[00:42:38] Jamon Fries:

of their Of their income. Yeah. Of their of   percentage of their income.  

[00:42:44] Jesse Fries:

It's a percentage of the income. It is not Yeah. They don't pay more. I'm sure wealthier No. It's like, I have a big house.  

[00:42:52] Jamon Fries:

So that means I actually pay more. You probably pay more than I pay.   Although you are in Texas, I'm in Kansas. So, you know, there is that difference. But Well, right. Right. But yeah.  

[00:43:02] Jesse Fries:

So this whole thing, it was like I I was like, oh, okay. Let's see. And then it just comes out a percentage of your income. I'm like, oh, but that doesn't count. You know? It's like No. It doesn't.   The the this is like the The the story of the versus, like, equality sort of bullshit. You know? It's like Yeah. No. No. This doesn't count. You know? They they  

[00:43:23] Jamon Fries:

Well, I see the problem is, Jesse, is that they finally, they thought,   had   a clue   to prove systemic racism.  

[00:43:34] Jesse Fries:

Well,   yeah. Of course. Of course. Or or they decide, oh, we could twist this.  

[00:43:39] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well, I mean, that's exactly what it is. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they but they thought that they could use this to prove systemic racism.  

[00:43:47] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   No. Because  

[00:43:51] Jamon Fries:

I mean, racism exists. Yes. But not systemic racism because there's no law that benefits   whites over blacks.   Mhmm.   And so this would be a way that they could show that, see, the government is doing this because they still think of the energy grid as being the government, not private entities for some reason.   They call it public works, but it's not really public.  

[00:44:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Look look look look looks like it's also due to, like,   they live in older homes.   Yeah. And and So, you know, it's there's many different reasons. It's  

[00:44:24] Jamon Fries:

not Or or like me, I live in a I live in a mobile home. I live in a manufactured home. So my walls   are   potentially   not even two by fours.  

[00:44:39] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:44:41] Jamon Fries:

The the standard standard installation on a manufactured home right now   for Kansas,   So it's in Zone 2, not not Zone 3. Zone 3 would be better.   But in Kansas, they use r 11 insulation   in these in these things Mhmm.   In the walls and on the floor.   That is   not good enough   to keep the heat in. Right. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   And so yeah. I mean, it's gonna cost me more to heat this little trailer   than   some people's houses. I  

[00:45:19] Jesse Fries:

exactly. Exactly. And you you this whole the whole race baiting. I swear to god. I'm   Yeah.   You know, I'm just tired of it all.   Tired of this, tired of so many things. You know, it's how about you just stick to the facts? You know? It's Yeah.   Why why are you trying to twist things to make it? Don't try to put race into everything.   Exactly. Yeah. Poor people everywhere have the same issues. They have older houses. They have this. So worse insulation. They have this. They this is what it means to be poor. You know?   It's,   I I'm not trying to fix any social ills right now, but, you know, it's just Yeah. The it's what the poor   if you're poor, you have these issues. It doesn't matter beyond that. Poor. That's it. Absolutely. Yeah. Doss the solace. With without a doubt.  



[00:46:10] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Because he because, you know, some of the trailers that I've been looking at because I am looking at at at, buying a new trailer and moving out of this one. Mhmm. Some of the trailers I've been looking at, they have an option for modular home versus or manufactured home. So you can so they'll beef it up and sell it as a modular home instead of as a manufactured home. The difference is a manufactured home has to follow HUD standards,   and a modular home has to follow the local state standards for Oh, okay. Construction.   Okay.  

And so   in a   in the modular homes, they have two by six walls. They've got r 19 insulation. They've got r 50 ins bat blown in insulation in the ceiling, you know, stuff like that. Really good insulation.   Mhmm.   On the the equivalent HUD homes, it's two by four walls with r 11 insulation in the walls and r 30 in the ceiling.   Jesus.   The other differences, of course, are there. You know, the the,   they use two by sixes as the floorboard as the floor joists instead of two by eights.   The so   I just it's just   cheaper all all all around. A lot of them are a lot of them do the the floorboards are the floor joists are on two foot centers instead of 16 inch centers,   which is in the modular. They're all in the 16 inch centers. Okay. Okay. So the so these are the differences that allow them to spend less money to build the home so that they can sell it for much less. Makes sense. And so, like, one one of the houses that I looked at, the manufactured   home was 54,000.  

Mhmm.   The modular home of the same exact layout was, like, 130,000.  

[00:47:57] Jesse Fries:

You're paying for it. You're never paying for it. You're you pay for the better for the better material. Yeah. Yeah. That's life. You pay for Yeah. A better existence. It's just what it is.   Absolutely.   Let's see here. What else do we got?  

[00:48:15] Jamon Fries:

The the last one the last one I have for National is,   Cloud   Flare. Uh-huh.   It's I guess, it's,   much like,   Amazon's AWS  

[00:48:27] Jesse Fries:

that went down. Right. Right. Well, no, Cloudfare also went down. Yeah. Cloudfare is a routing system. It's not Oh, it's a routing system? It's a routing system. It it routes   most of well,   it routes a good chunk of,   the Internet traffic.  

[00:48:44] Jamon Fries:

Okay.   So   Elon Musk was had been mocking AWS for going down. Mhmm. So he'd been he'd been mocking the customers, you know. See, this is what happens when you when you when you do your business with Amazon.  

[00:48:57] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:48:58] Jamon Fries:

Within, like, a week or two,   x is down because of Cloudflare.  

[00:49:08] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. When you use a third party system but then even Yep. If you use your own system, it's gonna go down too. You know? It's just Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. Cloud CloudFlare  

[00:49:19] Jamon Fries:

says it went down because it got hacked. But, you know, who knows what really happened?  

[00:49:23] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? Possibly. And that's fine. You know, either way, you know, it still went down and everything like that. So Yep.  

[00:49:30] Jamon Fries:

I just thought it was ironic that, you know, Musk mocks AWS customers, and then   he gets shut down too. Right. Right. Right.  

[00:49:40] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. So speaking of bad actors and everything like that, apparently, the Department of Transportation,   they want they wanna stop all the bad actors'   bad behavior on airplanes. Right? Because, apparently, it's been in the news.   Yeah. It has been.   So they want you to start dressing better to fly.   Get your three piece suit on, people.   They say the golden age of travel starts with you.  

[00:50:08] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know what's kinda funny is that I that I was watching,   I can't remember the name of the show, but one of the the podcast,   they they had an interview. They interviewed,   Kennedy   Mhmm.   For the book that he put out,   for his latest book, which I guess is supposed to be a pretty good pretty funny,   pretty funny book. But Oh, okay. So they interviewed him, and then they were talking   they started showing some,   news things from airport from airlines that had happened. Mhmm.   So Spirit Airlines,   this   lady   didn't mind her daughter   sitting in the back of the plane while she was up towards the front. Uh-huh.  

But then after they landed, when   all of the customers wanted to get off the plane   Mhmm. She just stood in the aisle and wouldn't move until they, until they allowed her daughter to come all the way up to her through the crowd Are you fucking kidding me? To leave the plane.   No. Go fuck yourself.   That's why you just call the cops.   Tell the Yeah.   Get the cops up, Get her off. Play and simple. Rest her ass. I I think they eventually probably did that. I I don't know. The video the video showed the,   showed the stewardess is trying to to deal with it. Oh, hey.   Yeah. So so they were they were going on this big rant about, you know, the about,   you know, this this one guy. He's like, you know,   I can't say as I really fall put anyone at fault for this.  



[00:51:47] Jesse Fries:

He's like, why not?  

[00:51:49] Jamon Fries:

Serious. Because they chose to fierce because they chose to fly Spirit Airline, you  

[00:51:53] Jesse Fries:

know.   Well, so when you're paying 3 doll when you're paying $3  

[00:51:58] Jamon Fries:

for a ticket,   you don't get to complain about people doing shit like this because that's kind of person that buys these tickets. Yeah. $40 a ticket? Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna get crap people, you know. There there's just no reason.  

[00:52:11] Jesse Fries:

See, that's the thing. It's like you're getting all sorts now. You know, it's Oh, yeah.  

[00:52:16] Jamon Fries:

Well, you see, it it Prices for what that was airfares have actually  

[00:52:20] Jesse Fries:

like, for real dollar value, they have dropped quite a bit. Oh, significant.   Yeah. Because, you know,   even to fly to Kenya, when when the first time I flew back in 2006,   it cost about $1,400   to fly to Kenya. Right? Yep. That's nearly twenty years ago. Right? Guess how much it is? Now it's, like, $1,500.   That's it. Like, a $100 increase over twenty years   With inflation. Pretty with inflation, that's a pretty large decrease in It's a huge value of it. Yeah. So more people can do it, so you get more of the riffraff  

[00:52:55] Jamon Fries:

of life. You know? And Yep. Yeah. Well, and that that was one of the comments that that I I remembered the podcast name. It was the Ruthless Podcast.   Mhmm.   And one of the one of the people that was on there, he's like, yeah. You know, it's   this is you this is something that you should expect though, you know. It it used to be back in the day.   It was it was something special going on for a average person to   even consider   buying a plane ticket.   Right.   You know, you didn't you wouldn't just buy a plane ticket to fly down to Orlando   for a week normally.  

You know,   there there would be people that do that that would do that, but they were all upper income people. Mhmm.   You know, it wasn't the,   I live in the slums here. I'm going to Orlando, so let's hop on a plane and fly to Orlando.   Exactly. Yeah. Yep. It just wasn't it wasn't a feasible option back then. You would get in your car and you would drive.   Yeah. That's what you would do. He's like he he puts this the the this change on the fact that there's no station wagons anymore. But, you know,   I I think he was just joking about that. But Well, right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:54:11] Jesse Fries:

Station wagon was a great thing. You'd sit in the back, but then, you know, back in the day, you didn't have to be buckled the whole fucking time. Yeah.   Absolutely. Yeah. You know, it it's yeah. Some The more kids died and everything like that, but yeah. Where their seat belt were in the front seat.   Not at first. No. Not no. No. Not not when we were real not when we were real young. Yeah. Not in the eighties. So yeah. Yeah. That's  

[00:54:35] Jamon Fries:

that's really when we did the road trips. So yeah. And and now the the shit where even if the kid is   six years old  

[00:54:45] Jesse Fries:

They want it rear facing. Freaking car seat. A rear facing car seat. Yeah. They want, like, a six year old to be in a rear facing car seat. Either go, what about their legs, dude? What? Let them stretch out, man. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's   you know, there's a certain risk to life, people. Yes. Spirits.   You know, and these cars are bloody safe anyways.   Oh, yeah. So   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:55:12] Jamon Fries:

But yeah. So he he he was even talking about how everybody dressed better on the planes back then.  

[00:55:18] Jesse Fries:

What? And so that that Because they had more money and they just Yeah. Dress better. People with money   tend to dress. Actually, nowadays, not so much. It used to be that way.   Nowadays, you can't tell Well, I'm sure if you're you're rich, you could tell the difference in between a Louis Vuitton t shirt and a Walmart special t shirt. I personally can't tell the freaking difference. You look the same. No. You know? It's like Yeah.   How am I supposed to know the difference?  

[00:55:47] Jamon Fries:

It's like the the,   polo shirts.   The only way that I know that it was designed and made by polo is you got that freaking horse on there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:55:59] Jesse Fries:

It looks the same as every other polo Polo shirt. Shirt that anyone wears. Yes. It does. It does. Hey. It's like, who cares? Some have a alligator.   Some have a polo guy on it. Yeah. It's like, who cares? And some have an eagle. On them. Yeah. Some have nothing. What are you gonna do with that? Yeah. It's, Yeah. Yeah. No. It's just One's house was bought had nothing on them.   Our culture has gotten,   more casual.   Yeah. Yeah.   More,   like, basically, what you wear around the house, you wear out into public. You know? It's just what it used to be, you would actually dress up to go to   dinner and whatnot. Yeah.  

Which to me, I I find hilarious. I every so often, when you actually when we go to a hotel and everything like that, people still do that. You're like going, oh, yeah. Do it, dude. It's just a it's just a restaurant. It's just food.   Yeah.  

[00:56:54] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, I mean, I I could understand it in a restaurant that has dress codes because some of those there are still some that exist, you know, where the man has to wear a coat and tie, stuff like that. Yeah. There's about, like, maybe a 100 in all over the country. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   They're very rare. They used to be a lot more abundant, but there   there still are some of those rare ones that that are held that are holding on. Mhmm. But   no. I mean, yeah. It's   I I can remember back in the day when when I first   had gained so much weight that jeans weren't really something that or jeans or,   or,   Dockers and stuff like that weren't something that were comfortable in me on me anymore. Mhmm. And so I started wearing   better looking sweatpants   for just, you know, is the best word that I can do, say, for what I Non holy sweatpants? Yeah. Got it. Got it. Yeah.  

But not not the not the kind that look like they're sweatpants, so they're not the thick material sweatpants.   They're more of a sheen,   sheen material. Oh, okay. They're thin I understand. You know, stuff like that. So they're they're a little bit better. They, you know, they they look better. They look closer to Dockers than a pair of sweatpants does. Then they also don't most of mine don't have the elastic at the bottom. So it it hangs like an armchair. I understand. I understand. Yeah. But,   I used to feel very uncomfortable even wearing that into a restaurant. Uh-huh.   Because   to me,   that's not   appropriate attire for anywhere. Right. Right. Right. Just loaning around the house.  



[00:58:32] Jesse Fries:

Now you do it every time. Now  

[00:58:34] Jamon Fries:

Now. Like, I I I   never wear anything but shorts and t shirt no matter where I go. Exactly.   Exactly.  

[00:58:42] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Let's change here. So UnitedHealthcare   is back in the news.   Oh, are they? Yeah. Not for a good thing either, of course.   So not unusual.   Yeah. Yeah. No. They they they they looked at their profit margins,   and they decided that they're not making enough money. So they're kicking off a million seniors off their Medicare Advantage Plan.  

[00:59:06] Jamon Fries:

Wait. What? Yep.   Yeah.  

[00:59:14] Jesse Fries:

It's completely messed up, you.  

[00:59:16] Jamon Fries:

That is really fucked up.   Yeah.  

[00:59:21] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   You you you you know, it's like  

[00:59:28] Jamon Fries:

yeah.   So, basically, what they're saying is that once your health once you're in a potential airtime   in your life where your health is gonna cost us more money, we don't wanna insure you anymore.  

[00:59:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That is exactly it. Yeah.  

[00:59:46] Jamon Fries:

Which entirely defeats the entire fucking purpose of insurance.  

[00:59:50] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I think we said it last time. These people should not be profit driven. None of these companies should be profit driven. It's,   and they should be lean and mean. Plain and simple. You know, doge them Absolutely. Yeah. Motherfuckers. You know? It's Absolutely. Yes.   Good. Because they saw their margins plummet from 8.3%   to 1%.   I don't care.  

[01:00:13] Jamon Fries:

That's a significant drop, but at the same time,   that means that you're doing something wrong. It doesn't mean that you should get rid of your   customers.  

[01:00:24] Jesse Fries:

To to to me, that 1% is fine. It should not be a profit driven situation. I know it is, and the stockholders don't like it. But I this is insurance. Suck it. Well and and that's that's another problem is I don't think that insurance should be publicly traded.   No. I agree. I agree.  

[01:00:43] Jamon Fries:

Every every single pub. I I personally think that no company should be publicly traded, but   that's because of our because of the laws that are   on the books.   Mhmm. The laws that state   that   when making decisions,   you can only make decisions for the benefit   of the shareholder.   Mhmm. Not of the company,   not of the customer. Yep. Only the shareholder.  

[01:01:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's messed up you. I really The entire purpose of a company being  

[01:01:17] Jamon Fries:

in existence   is to benefit the company   and to benefit the customer.  

[01:01:22] Jesse Fries:

That's what I figured.  

[01:01:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So with the current rules and how how they have to legally make decisions   Mhmm. When you're a publicly traded company, I believe that there should no be there shouldn't be any publicly traded No. I could I'd be yeah. I I'd support that because, yeah, it it's  

[01:01:39] Jesse Fries:

the the shareholders   Of course, it was the shareholders that have the money that, lobbied the government so that they could pass those laws. So that yeah. I know. It's  

[01:01:49] Jamon Fries:

And and the problem is is that those shareholders   Mhmm. Unless they made the purchase in the at the initial IPO   Mhmm.   Have never actually benefited the company in any way. Yep. Yep.   And in a lot of cases with those IPOs, it never benefits the company anyways   because the person that designed it and set up the company   owns all the stock. So anything that they sell, the money goes directly to them instead of the company. Yep.  

[01:02:17] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[01:02:19] Jamon Fries:

Which is why you suddenly have Mark Zuckerberg, who's a   billionaire, because   he went public with Facebook.  

[01:02:26] Jesse Fries:

He called him Zuckerberg.  

[01:02:30] Jamon Fries:

I don't remember their names.   Zuckerberg.  

[01:02:35] Jesse Fries:

Oh, that's right. You added a r on the end of it. It just sounded funny, Zuckerberg.   Just say I've never been a fan of his. I don't mind messing his name up. No. It's it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Let's go to international   because I think we're done with national.  

[01:02:53] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Okeydokey.  

[01:02:55] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   Trump has a peace plan for Gaza.   Yeah. And the Security Council approved it.   Mhmm. So, basically, what it would mean is that,   whatever deals they would disarm   Hamas,   things like that, and then   they would also   have a force in there   that could actually   do something, that could arrest and use guns   on whoever is trying to do anything.   Yep.   So it would be have teeth. It wouldn't just be like, oh, yeah. It's a blue helmets. They can't do anything except for Right. Village us. You know? Yeah. So it would be a real force. It could actually   do something. Palestinians don't like it, of course.  



[01:03:43] Jamon Fries:

Of course.  

[01:03:44] Jesse Fries:

They go, it's just a new occupation.   It's like, oh, okay. Congratulations.   You're assholes. You you kinda Yeah.   You know, we we we understand you need a home, so we'll try to make this work, but you're assholes. I'm just saying. Yeah.   You attacked Israel. I don't know what you want us to do about it. It's, so Yeah. But yeah. So there's that. And yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I was,  

[01:04:11] Jamon Fries:

won't really get into that.  

[01:04:14] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here. Anything else, or should we go on to the other thing that Trump did?  

[01:04:19] Jamon Fries:

Let's go on to the other thing that Trump did. Okay.  

[01:04:22] Jesse Fries:

So Trump and everything like that looks like they're on a good course to try to solve the Ukraine war situation as well. Really?   Yeah. He has come up with a deal,   actually,   that   would   make it so that Ukraine would have to seed some land to Russia.   Okay.   It's just a overarching   deal.   Their military would have to be reduced by 50%.   Mhmm.   They just have to give up Crimea,   because, well, it's Russian anyways.   Yeah.   But then   some some of the land would, like, be owned by Ukraine, but Russia would   rent it   for a better word. Okay.   Yeah. And the army would be reduced to 400,000   people.  

They'd have to give up all their long range weapons,   yada yada yada. So,   yeah, we'll see how that goes.   I haven't heard any Yeah.   Europe and Ukraine are kinda pushing back at it.   But Right.  

[01:05:33] Jamon Fries:

It's kinda like   I don't know that with that with that whole corruption shit going on in Ukraine. I don't know if Ukraine can really say anything about it.  

[01:05:43] Jesse Fries:

No. They really can't. See, that's the thing. That this is, like, the perfect time to   actually Yeah.   Yeah. And as of   yeah. I'm looking at you you know how I had have that map of the war and everything like that? Right. Yeah.   Deepstatemap.live.   Yeah. It's,   everything   Russia is still advancing.   So  

[01:06:06] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's not surprising.  

[01:06:08] Jesse Fries:

No. It's not surprising at all. So   yeah. There's something that needs to be done with that. Let's just end that. Let's end the death. You know? It's   Too many people have died that shouldn't have had to die in to begin with. Oh, completely. Completely. Don't get me wrong. I don't   necessarily   like Russia invading Ukraine, but I understand why they did it. Oh, absolutely.   So   yeah. Yeah. We kinda caused that one. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. Just just a wee bit.  

[01:06:38] Jamon Fries:

We we definitely caused it to be extended as long as it has been. Oh, completely. Oh, Europe is right there.   Between us and and The UK, I mean, we are completely at fault for that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.   Because what was it? Two, three weeks into the war, they were already  

[01:06:55] Jesse Fries:

sitting down for peace talks? Yeah. And then what was it around them or something like that? Yeah. No. You don't wanna talk to them. Yeah. I think it was Gordon Brown, wasn't it? Or something. Yeah. It was one of the old prime ministers of The UK.   Yep. He he he made the was involved in that as well. Yeah. Yeah. But The UK guy gets most of the blame on that one. It's funny. Of course. Yeah.  

[01:07:16] Jamon Fries:

Well, The US never gets blamed for the shit that we do.  

[01:07:19] Jesse Fries:

Well, no. This is what I think The UK guy really, really   went hard to say Yeah. No. So, you know, because   The UK, they they they   They still think they're important.   Or as  

[01:07:33] Jamon Fries:

You you you know, that that Well, you know, that that that's the problem is all these European countries think that they're still relevant in the world.  

[01:07:41] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like they're they're not. You know, they could become again.  

[01:07:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. They could become again. Yeah. Absolutely. But   yeah. No. They're not. Got rid of the EU and started doing things on their own.  

[01:07:54] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. It's too much of a mess. Or the EU coalesces into more of, like, a United States situation.  

[01:07:59] Jamon Fries:

Yes. Yes. If if the EU were to   no longer   if it if it went one of two things either has to happen. Either they have to get rid of the EU   or all of the member states of the EU have to give up their sovereignty.   Yeah. Yeah. That that is, If one of those two things happens, they could they could very easily   at least portions of it, if they give it up,   at least portions of   Europe would be able to become relevant. If the EU if everybody gave up their sovereignty to the EU, then they would then the EU would become be able to become relevant. Otherwise,   you're just in limbo. You you are nothing, really.  



[01:08:37] Jesse Fries:

No. It's just like, when The United States was under the articles of confederacy. You know? It's just   it's just what it is. Absolutely. And then we had to have the constitutional,   convention so that we could actually get a good system that the federal government was actually a real system. So Yeah.  

[01:08:55] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. 100%.  

[01:08:57] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Let's see here. Anything else, the lens yeah. Corruption, once again. You know? That's just what it is.   Yeah.   And yeah. You got anything?  

[01:09:09] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So   we talked about Facebook a little bit ago. Mhmm.   They are notifying Australian teenagers that their accounts are gonna be shut down.  

[01:09:20] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Well, Australia passed that law. What is it? 13? Yes. They did. 16. 16. Oh. Ouch. No one under 16  

[01:09:27] Jamon Fries:

can be can can be have access to social media in in Australia.  

[01:09:33] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Denmark would they passed a 15 year old one just recently. So I don't know when that's going to affect. But, yeah, it's gonna be rough.  

[01:09:42] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. I I I gotta say though, I don't really  

[01:09:47] Jesse Fries:

dislike it too much. No. I I I don't I don't care either way. To me, that's fine.   They'll just get on chat services and have their group chats and voice and everything like that. So it's not really a big deal. They'll do exactly what they did before social media came around. You know, they're  

[01:10:04] Jamon Fries:

the the chat websites and stuff like that, those will start increasing again. I mean, there there used to be so many chat websites that have all gone the way of the dodo Yeah. Because of social media. So they'll just come back. And there'll be some black sites that they can go visit and everything. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's just what it's gonna be. We we we yeah. Yeah.   Which I think is better   in a way because   right now,   you have lots of crazy adults that   just by talking crazy to other adults are in are influencing the teenagers.   At least at that point in time, you know, any adult trying to influence the teenagers,   you can question what their motives are behind it.  



[01:10:46] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I I don't know about that. But, yeah, I could see that. I could see that.   Oh, let's see. It looks Yeah. Uh-huh.   Looks like The UK is banning scalping,   like tickets and everything like that. You cannot   resell for profit. Yeah. Yeah. You cannot resell for a profit.   So in The UK now. So   Yeah.   Yeah. No. I'm not against that one either. So  

[01:11:12] Jamon Fries:

I'm sure Taylor Swift would be pretty happy about that.  

[01:11:15] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I don't think,  

[01:11:17] Jamon Fries:

the bans actually care, because it doesn't affect them at all. Well, no. See, the the reason that I the reason I say that is because   of the big problems that happened   with, Ticketmaster   and Taylor Swift sales Right. Right. For her last big concert round Mhmm.   Because she set   a price on the tickets.   Right. And it was a pretty low price. She didn't want to have she didn't want her people to have to pay too too much money to go see her. Right.   But then as soon as everything got bought out by the scalpers, those ticket prices jumped by two, three, four, sometimes even five times the price. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. It's but that She got really upset about that. And, but yeah. So, you know, this would allow her to to especially in UK for now, anyways,   to set her ticket sales and have that be the only price that you have to pay to go see her. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So So for for the people who wanna be who want to keep the keep every keep the tickets cheap so that their so that their so that their fans can come and see them no matter how much money they make,   this will be that this would be very beneficial to that. Mhmm.  



[01:12:30] Jesse Fries:

Yep.   Let's see. Here at the Mindless Meanderings, we are a value for value podcast. So what that means is that if you get any value out of this, please help us out. Send us a dollar. Send us $2. You can go to mindlessmeanderings.com   and select the PayPal link,   and you can help donate to the show. Or, you could go through your favorite podcasting two point o app   and,   donate that way, and we will get that. Or you can email us. Mine is jesse@mindlessc.com,   and Jaiman's   is at Jaiman@mindlessmeanderings.com.   Any which way you can help us would be great. If you help us out, we will make you a producer of the show. Wouldn't that be awesome?  

But, yeah, if you have any   ideas, complaints,   concerns,   good naked photos, send them our way.   Let's see here. On to business.   What you got, James?  

[01:13:29] Jamon Fries:

Well, so   which one to start off with? Well, let's go with the   with the most blah one that I was thinking about not even putting in. Mhmm. Tesla   has gotten ride hailing permits in Arizona now, so they're gonna be sending their taxis to Arizona now. Okay.   So that's, that's their next step in the Mhmm. Launching their robotaxi service. Okay.   Yeah. That that's the one that I wasn't really sure if I wanted really wanna bring it or not. No. It is   that's really about it. That's a big law. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Story.   The one one that I really found interesting though, TikTok   is going to allow you   all of the all TikTok users will be able to set in their settings   how much AI generated content you wanna see. I'm gonna set that to zero.  



[01:14:24] Jesse Fries:

Oh, I would do. Yeah. I like people.   They're crazy. Yes. The messiness of humanity. That's what I like. Yes. Yes.  

[01:14:32] Jamon Fries:

But I I like the fact that they're going to do that rather than just   letting AI content just flood their service. Oh, yeah. Completely. This way this way with with TikTok is actually doing something really good here, I think, you know, being able to limit how much AI content because the AI content, you know, is  

[01:14:53] Jesse Fries:

not that good. So yeah. Yeah. A lot of times, it really isn't. You you you know, it's like   yeah. You you you know, it's good for memes and everything like that and for jokes, making Yeah. People do   things that, you know, they wouldn't do and everything like that. Yeah. But in general, you know, just just go with people, you know. But jokes are fine. Some of those jokes, they're they're pretty funny, you know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The White House has   been pretty on it when it comes to AI memes.  

[01:15:21] Jamon Fries:

They have. Yes.   The White House is a master of memes.  

[01:15:25] Jesse Fries:

They really are. They really are.   They're hilarious.   Let's see here. Speaking of AI and everything like that. So,   a couple things, with NVIDIA.   Okay.   So NVIDIA   is kinda they they have record profit   record profits and everything like that. The stock market loved it and everything like that. But there are signs   that this could become, like, tumbling down.   So one of them   is that they had a $100,000,000,000   pact with, OpenAI.   Right. In video the analysis back in, like, September. NVIDIA now says there's no assurance that that will ever finalize.  

[01:16:13] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that's it. It isn't open the isn't open the AI, the one that has, like, promised over a trillion dollars of spending   Something. In a certain amount of time. But they can't even make a billion, and they barely even make a billion a year. Yeah. Yeah. That that's about right.  

[01:16:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   And then another NVIDIA thing. So   it kinda seems like NVIDIA   is   it's a circle loop on pain and everything like that. So   they invest   in a company   who then   says that they're gonna buy NVIDIA.   And then Nvidia   invest in that, and then they buy, and then they invest. So it's the circular loop of money. It's basically a whole Ponzi scheme or something. Not maybe not Ponzi scheme, but it's something Yeah. Not not quite not quite a Ponzi scheme, but, yeah, where where this the money is never leaving the circle.   Right.  

Right. So it really doesn't even exist.   Yeah.  

[01:17:16] Jamon Fries:

Well, it it exists.   And the but the problem is is that Nvidia can claim profits   when they shouldn't be able to because they're giving the people the money to   buy their product.  

[01:17:28] Jesse Fries:

Right. Yep. Yep.  

[01:17:30] Jamon Fries:

And that's a   the   I'm not sure, but I don't think that fits a lot of accounting principles.  

[01:17:39] Jesse Fries:

I'm sure it doesn't. I am sure it doesn't.   Yeah. So yeah.   Yeah. It it it it seems  

[01:17:53] Jamon Fries:

It seems very iffy. It it's problematic.   It it it Yeah. Just like my wife coming in here   and sneaking about something.   Oh, I think she's Yeah. I sneak you right now.  

[01:18:06] Jesse Fries:

But, thankfully, nobody that she works with listens to this podcast.   So   That's good. That that is good. If they do, I'd be shocked because nobody listens to the podcast.   Yeah.  

[01:18:18] Jamon Fries:

Well, with as few people who listen to this broadcast, it would be very shocking if they knew any of them. They weren't immediate family, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If any of them even listen to us anymore.  

[01:18:29] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No idea.   I got cough. Sorry.   But, yeah, I described the whole NVIDIA whatnot basically as a big circle jerk.   Yeah. Pretty much it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, I'll pleasure you. You pleasure me. I'll pleasure you. You pleasure me. It's   it's pathetic. So I I don't know why NVIDIA's up there. I this is all gonna come tumbling down. It's gonna come tumbling. Yeah.  

[01:18:55] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yep. They may have had record sales, but when you're giving the money to make those sales,   that doesn't help your company at all. It really doesn't, does it? It doesn't help the bottom line. All it there there's only one thing it does. Uh-huh.   It drives up the stock prices.  

[01:19:12] Jesse Fries:

I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Which means that the owners of the stock that  

[01:19:17] Jamon Fries:

are involved in this  

[01:19:20] Jesse Fries:

can sell their stock at a higher price. It seems like a type of money laundering. I'm just saying. It really does. I could be completely wrong on this, but it it just it kinda seems like a It it's it sounds like something the mafia would have done back in the day. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:19:37] Jamon Fries:

Okay. What else you got, Jamie?   Okay. So on from that, Ford.   Now I didn't I didn't know this. And did you know that Amazon   has a used car sales  

[01:19:48] Jesse Fries:

segment? I did not.  

[01:19:50] Jamon Fries:

They set it up in work working with Honda with Hyundai. Okay.   And now Ford   has decided that they are also going to use Amazon to sell their used cars and try to get a boost in sales by doing that.  

[01:20:08] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Okay.  

[01:20:11] Jamon Fries:

Well, that works. Yeah. I had no idea that Amazon had a used car sales area. That was that that was weird. Yeah. Yeah. So,  

[01:20:18] Jesse Fries:

we are running short on time, and we have a lot of stories here. So let's try to Yeah. Okay. Speed this up here.   Alrighty. So we're on the legal. Yeah. Legal. One that'll take care of both is   a judge blocked the red state redistricting,   the Texas redistricting,   even though the Supreme Court said we had to redistrict.   So I They they said it was racist. So yep. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't understand how we're supposed to go back to the one that was considered. Because he the judge said we have to go back to the twenty one one.  

[01:20:51] Jamon Fries:

But the twenty one one was considered racist, which is why they're doing this one. Correct. So I I don't see had a court order to redo it, so they redid it. Yeah. So they have to go back to the one before that one, maybe? Yeah. Apparently. That that that's yeah. No. It's it's all crazy. But, yeah, there's that. So   it it may put on taking that they're planning on taking that to the Supreme Court. And depending on the Supreme Court decision,   it'll make it either so that it's they're allowed to to do it or it'll make it so that   California's prop 50 thing is absolutely useless.  

Well, probably probably still go through with it. Just saying in California Well, they'll they'll still go through with it. They'll still go through with it. But   depending on what this how the Supreme Court   words their their ruling Right. They could make it so that all the stuff that the Democrats have done to with their redistricting  

[01:21:41] Jesse Fries:

also has to all get thrown out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I I I understand. I understand. I understand. Yeah. So,  

[01:21:47] Jamon Fries:

you know, both of our stories are actually   well, no. Yours is yours is a little different. I thought I saw yours in there somewhere too. Which one? Oh, yep.   Yeah. The, house democrat, the congressman congressman All Florida. Yeah. For   for, alleged theft of FEMA relief funds to for campaign use. Yeah. Like, $5,000,000  

[01:22:08] Jesse Fries:

or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Her and her brother came up with a scheme,   to basically   launder the money. So it looked like Yeah.   It was,   valid and everything like that. Yeah. She faces up to fifty three years in jail. So Yeah.   Yeah. That's a   that's a rough one. That's a rough one. That is a very rough one. Yeah.   It is. It sucks to be hurt. Well, she should have done the grime then. Yeah. Exactly. If she did the grime. She allegedly did the grime. Yes.   Let's see here. The whole Comey thing, that seems to be falling apart pretty quick.   The case against Comey, you know, it seems like not all the steps were followed correctly, possibly. So we'll see how that goes. It's like the whole grand jury weren't wasn't able to see   the final,   indictment.  

Maybe only one or two were able to see the indictment.   Yeah. So it it's just amateur hour over there, and it's just Yeah. You know, maybe the DOJ goes, Trump wants us to do this, so let's throw an idiot at that that doesn't know what they're doing or that can follow orders to where they do what Trump says, but not   really. You know? Yep. And so Like, for me. Mhmm. Wouldn't surprise me.   Me neither. Me neither. Okay. And so, everybody,   a study remember,   a study said   that studies are mostly wrong,   but sometimes they're right.   And so it's up to you to decide.  

And with that,   the study I have says that   chat GPT   is   more than half   incorrect. It fabricates more than half of their references.   And that's in the surprise me.   It doesn't surprise me either. It does not surprise me either.  

[01:24:03] Jamon Fries:

So Well, you know what I mean? One one of the one of the problems is that   it gets its information by crawling the Internet. Mhmm.   Well,   anybody that believes more than 10% of what you read on the Internet is just stupid because there's so much bad crap put on the Internet.  

[01:24:21] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right.  

[01:24:23] Jamon Fries:

And so whether whether ChatGPDT   was was fabricating itself or not,   I still wouldn't have trusted anything it was saying, but it doesn't surprise me that it's making shit up on the go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It it says, like, 56%  

[01:24:38] Jesse Fries:

was either fake or containing errors.   So Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. So   don't trust ChaffeePT   people. Just saying. No. No. Maybe at some point, you might be able to.   Just not yet. Just not yet. Yeah.  

[01:24:54] Jamon Fries:

The the the it's   still in its, like, it it's barely even into its infancy. It's more like   it was   it it it   was just born.   Right. Right. Yep. You know, it it's   it's not it's not like it's had time to develop and grow.   You know, even a two year old, once they can start talking, probably says   more real statements than ChatGPP does.   Probably so. Probably so. So if you really wanna talk to somebody that don't know what they're talking about, go and talk to a two year old instead of ChatGPP.   Mhmm.   Exactly. You'll have a much better conversation.  

[01:25:38] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Onto science team. What you got? Yes. So  

[01:25:42] Jamon Fries:

okay. So we'll go with the cool one first. Mhmm. Scientists have   have,   found a way to turn a human stomach cell   Mhmm. Into an insulin producing beta cell Weird.   Which means   we may finally have an overall cure for diet for type one diabetes. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool.   Yeah.   So far, that it's only been tested on mice and stuff like that. Right. It hasn't it hasn't reached human testing yet, but   the in the labs, human cells can be turned into bait into insulin producing beta cells. In mice, it seems to be effective so far. So   it looks like we're leading on a pretty good pretty good system for that. Cool. Cool. Nice to hear. Yeah. Nice to hear.  

And the other story is kind of   a you're you're blaming climate change again.  

[01:26:41] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's always climate change.   I stubbed my toe. It's climate  

[01:26:46] Jamon Fries:

change. But what they're saying now is that climate as climate pressures intensify,   crops are growing faster,   but losing vital nutrients.   What now? Oh, Jesus. Yeah. They're they're blaming the fact that plants have less that have that plants are nest less nutritious now   than they used to be on climate change instead of on how we grow the plants,   which is completely depleting the soil of all the nutrients.   It doesn't matter how fast the plant grows.   It's going to draw as many nutrients out of the ground as it possibly can for its growth. Right. Right. Right.   So no matter how fast that plant is growing, if the ground is   fertile, it's going to have all the nutrients that it wants.  

Right.   The fact that it's nutritionally   decreased   has nothing to do with how fast the plant is growing. It's entirely about the quality of the soil.  

[01:27:43] Jesse Fries:

I would generally  

[01:27:45] Jamon Fries:

agree with that. Yeah. But they're blaming it on the climate change.  

[01:27:49] Jesse Fries:

But c o two plants love c o two.  

[01:27:52] Jamon Fries:

I know. Which is why they're growing faster and they're what they're essentially, what they're saying is that because the plants are growing faster, they don't have as much time to draw nutrients out of the ground.  

[01:28:05] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:28:06] Jamon Fries:

But they can't grow faster without the nutrients that are in the ground.   Right. Right. Right. No matter how much c o two they got, c o two is just the fuel. It doesn't actually cause the growth.   It's just the energy source to to give the growth, but you need to have the nutrients in the soil for the growth.  

[01:28:28] Jesse Fries:

I   they they they got a big chunk of money probably. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They they paid for this, and they go, how can we tie this to climate change? Because we need to tie this to climate change somehow. You know? It's Yeah. Because they wouldn't have gotten the grant if they didn't say how climate change affects this.   Yeah. And they won't get a grant if they said that all the big egg,   companies   were   were were causing   too much fertilization,   which might speed this up or deplete the resources in the actual land and but still have a plant to grow.   Or just the genetic modifications that they make to the plant, which can make it grow faster isn't couldn't possibly be what's making it grow fast. Exactly. Exactly. No. It has to be climate change. It has to be climate change. Yeah. Of course. Everything's climate change. I stubbed my toe. Remember? You know? Absolutely. Yes.  

I swear to God. I I just don't   I'm tired. That's insane.   I am feeling like a grouchy old man. I'm tired of it. Yeah.  

[01:29:31] Jamon Fries:

Absolutely. I'm getting there too.  

[01:29:36] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I haven't given up yet, so I still have some fight in me. But yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's,   I feel your pain, people.   Okay.   I have a couple fun stories.   Okay. So,   I don't know which one to start with. Let's go with this one. So,   you you know how you were talking about,   what was it, data centers and everything like that? Yeah.   Yep. Well,   apparently, in The UK now, you can actually sign up for what they call a scheme. I love how the Brits call it a scheme   because   they just use it as there's no derogatory   use to that word for them. It's hilarious. Right. Yeah. In The US, it's a derogatory   situation.  

But there's a scheme   to where you could put a data center in your shed,   and it can reduce,   your   energy  

[01:30:35] Jamon Fries:

bill  

[01:30:36] Jesse Fries:

by a lot. Okay. So this one guy Okay. His bill was £375   a month.   Right?   Mhmm. It's down to   £40.   Damn. Yeah. They swapped out their gas boiler for a heat hub, a small data center containing more than 500 computers.   Yeah. And then that drives their heat.  

[01:31:00] Jamon Fries:

That makes sense. There's a lot of heat coming off those computers. Uh-huh. It really does. It really does. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's And that heat's heat has to be exhausted somewhere. Why not exhausted into your house?  

[01:31:12] Jesse Fries:

It makes perfect sense to me. It does. Perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah,   That's a buttload of money right there, dude. That is. Yeah. That that's huge.   How much is that? Let's see here. $3.75.   I'm checking to see how much.   Okay.   Hey. This isn't working.   Let's see. Oh, there we go. The pound   to the dollar.   Okay. £375   would be $490.   Yeah. That's how much he was paying.   Yeah. That's what's his energy.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now it's down to $52.  

[01:32:18] Jamon Fries:

I thought the 140 I was paying was bad. Yeah. No.  

[01:32:22] Jesse Fries:

Over there,   energy is this war has, like,   impoverished all of Europe.   Yeah. I and so I don't know why Europe really wants this Ukrainian war to keep going because all it's ever done is impoverish.  

[01:32:37] Jamon Fries:

Well, because they're counting on The US to support them. Wait. Wait. It doesn't make any sense.   Their people are impoverished. But then but then again, does anything that Europe does make sense? No. Not really. Not really.   No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Except for except for the, banning scalping tickets. That, I'm I'm 100%  

[01:32:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. You you you know, every so often, you can get a good one. Yep. Every so often, you can get one. And every so often, you make a bad comment   like,   this guy,   what's his name here?   Crenshaw.   The representative Crenshaw?   Yeah. Yep.   So he went down to   Mexico on a some sort   of congressional delegation sort of thing.   Okay. And he got drunk.   They were having some drinks with some officials.   And then the one Mexican   official cracked a crude joke that made a woman present uncomfortable.   And so   and then Crenshaw toasted the remarks.   He goes, yeah. There you go.  

And so because of that because of that drunken   toasting,   I guess,   the,   the congress has actually banned him from international travel for three months.   Oh, wow. Does that mean he can't even go vacation internationally now, or is it Well, he might work related. He might be able to. If you guys don't know who Crenshaw is, he's the guy that wears the eye patch.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   So but   yeah.   I wanna know what that comment was. I I've really wanna know what that comment was. No kidding. Maybe   I toast to it too. Yeah.  

[01:34:29] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   But I would never do that. Yeah. Well, it only to to me,   where I would where I would lie in that one, not knowing what the comment is, I would need to know who the female   that was offended was. No. See, that's the thing. If she's if she's one of those insane liberals who will get offended by anything,   then,  

[01:34:50] Jesse Fries:

yeah, I'm sorry. But now I'm gonna toast that shit. Yeah. No. I a good joke is a good joke. I'm just saying. It is. Yeah. Yeah.   And with that, I'd like to thank you for joining us for episode, what is it, 81 of the minus meanderings? Yeah.   Podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.   And I'm Jamin Fries. And we will see you on Monday. And we will not have a show on Thanksgiving because I want a day off.