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- Jesse Fries

- Jamon Fries

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(00:00:21) Introduction

(00:01:35) Political Updates and Discussions

(00:10:21) Trump's International Relations

(00:17:26) State Politics and Controversial Policies

(00:20:26) International Politics and ICC

(00:28:41) Media and Misinformation

(00:38:43) Corporate Social Responsibility

(00:43:05) Education and Tuition Policies

(00:50:49) Social Media and Blue Sky

(00:54:23) Scientific Discoveries and Innovations

(01:00:26) Health and Lifestyle Discussions

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[00:00:21] Jesse Fries:

Good morning, everybody. It is   Tuesday,   November 26th,   and, we are kinda live, kinda not, with episode number 13 of the mindless meanderings.   I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from an undisclosed location   where I'm hiding out.  

[00:00:41] Jamon Fries:

Hiding out,   Yeah. I'm Jamin Friess and I'm coming at you still from   from eastern Kansas   and, where it is finally winter it seems. We're we're not supposed to be getting any temperatures above like   40, 39 to 41 for the next week or so. So Ouch. Lows down in the low twenties.  

[00:01:04] Jesse Fries:

That's no good.  

[00:01:06] Jamon Fries:

Oh, no. I love this weather.  

[00:01:10] Jesse Fries:

I I can see that. I can see that. I've gotten used to the nice warmth of Texas.  

[00:01:14] Jamon Fries:

You know? That's Yeah. I can imagine. No. I'd I'd rather have the cold   than the hot mugginess that we get during the middle of the summer.  

[00:01:22] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hot muggy kinda sucks, but, you know, that's also just normal Texas. So yeah. Yeah. I've kinda gotten used to that too. It is. Yep. Yep. Yep.   Okay. So let's see here.   When it comes let let's start politics since that seems to be what we mostly do.   I there's really not that much because, well, it's just all the normal. He's picking his stuff. People are complaining.   They got rid of him,   Gates.   So oh, and to everybody listening, if you hear my kids in the background, well, they're in the background. So that's why you're listening to them as well.   But, yeah, they got rid of Gates.  

And,   yeah. So that that's just all the typical stuff when it comes to that.   The funny one I heard about was   that, Mike Johnson,   the   house,   speaker of the house, announced that transgender bathrooms,   are banned on the Capitol.   And so, basically, because of that, the democrat transgendered,   Sarah McBride,   can't   will have to use the bathroom of her   assigned sex at birth or whatever they call it. You you know, that sort of thing. So yeah. And by the capital sex. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So   yeah. I thought that was kinda funny. That's,   seems very typical of something   the Republicans would do.  



[00:02:46] Jamon Fries:

Oh, absolutely. And, I mean, I can't say as I blame them for doing that.   Yep. Yep. That's that that that goes into a whole can of worms so we don't need to open up today. Exactly.  

[00:03:02] Jesse Fries:

That's what I'm thinking. That is what I'm thinking. Yeah. I just found a can that I'm using,   so she's gonna have to run over to somewhere else.   Let's see here.   Beyond that's more   international stuff. Do you have any, like, American  

[00:03:18] Jamon Fries:

politics? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've got, quite a few that fit into that. Okay. For one of them,   senator Mike Rounds, a representative from a Republican from South Dakota   Uh-huh. Has officially interest a bill to abolish the Department of Education.  

[00:03:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I saw that. I saw that. Let's see if that goes anywhere. That'd be   maybe nice. Yeah. It's, so  

[00:03:43] Jamon Fries:

well, they haven't done much good. A lot. It would do a lot for well, I mean, it's kind of interesting. I I   was reading some things. They were saying that before the Department of Education back in the, like, late eighties,   the US was basically number 1 in education in the world.   Or if not if not number 1, we were extremely close to it.   Now we're, like, ranked number 50.  

[00:04:10] Jesse Fries:

I thought it was, like, somewhere from 20 something, but, yeah, we're we're down.  

[00:04:15] Jamon Fries:

We're we're way down ever since the ever since the department of aviation was started. So, you   know, it doesn't seem to be doing its job very well.  

[00:04:25] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. You always wonder if it's causality or just correlation, you know, that sort of thing. It's,   I I wouldn't doubt it. When the federal government comes down,   it can cause problems. So it it was not surprising.  

[00:04:40] Jamon Fries:

So Yeah. I don't think I don't entirely blame it on the board of education though.   Uh-huh. One of the biggest problems that I find in the education system   is that for textbooks,   basically, 2 states   determine   what textbook the entire country is gonna use.   And those 2 states are California   and Texas.  

[00:05:06] Jesse Fries:

Yep. God bless Texas.  

[00:05:09] Jamon Fries:

Unfortunately,   California is also in that mix. Well, right. Right. Right.   And so there there's a lot of the textbooks being made now.   They they are being made so that they adhere to what California school districts want, which is   usually a fairly   left leaning   ideology   and thoughts and opinions about how things, you know, history books and stuff like that tend to   tend to lean a little bit left. The   the only books that it really that I don't think it can impact that much would be like,   math textbooks.   Because, I mean, math is just pure math. You know, you can't really you can't really put a political leaning on math   unless it's in the word problems.  



[00:05:57] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's   it's hard to say really, but it's   No matter what, it'll always probably be Texas and California anyways. We're the 2 biggest states. Oh, yeah. So it is just  

[00:06:09] Jamon Fries:

And that that's why you're you're the biggest markets and the book the the people that make the textbooks, they're not gonna make a textbook   for a state that only is gonna buy 10,000   versus California   who's gonna buy millions of books.   Yep. You know, I mean, it's just not gonna happen.  

[00:06:29] Jesse Fries:

No. It won't. And so because of that, we we're always just gonna be in that position. So it which kinda makes sense. But, yeah, it's,   unless if a smaller entity gets involved with them, probably Pearson would probably just buy them out too. So it's,  

[00:06:43] Jamon Fries:

oh, yeah. Yeah.   I mean, one one good thing that says, if you follow trends,   Texas may bypass   California   as the number one populated state in the country before too long.  

[00:06:58] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Wouldn't doubt it. Wouldn't doubt it. We have a lot of influx. So   nope.  

[00:07:04] Jamon Fries:

And unfortunately, half of them come from California.  

[00:07:08] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. And then they realize that Texas is better and they start to think our way. So  

[00:07:15] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.  

[00:07:17] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Unless  

[00:07:17] Jamon Fries:

they all gather in a hub like they have around Austin.  

[00:07:21] Jesse Fries:

Well, every city is that way. If you look at Texas, it's just the cities, the actual county of the city that voted for Kamala. So   Yeah. Yeah.   Everything else and some, like, county here there down south. But beyond that, it was primarily Yep. Just the cities. Otherwise, Texas was all red. Oh, yeah. So even even more red than it was last time. So  

[00:07:45] Jamon Fries:

Well, and and that's kind of the way it was all it is all the way across the country. I mean, as soon as you get out past the suburbs,   it's all red.  

[00:07:54] Jesse Fries:

Well, actually, this in Texas, it's it was just the city, just the city counties.   It wasn't the suburb counties. Yeah. It wasn't the suburbs. My county, actually, which is yeah. Because my county is quite suburbia,   and that actually went red. Yeah.  

[00:08:08] Jamon Fries:

So Well, that that was that was one thing about the Trump election is he got a lot of suburbanites   to to vote for him, which is highly unusual. So Yep. You know, that was that's that's pretty good that it that seems to be moving in that trend at least. So Mhmm. Yep.   But yeah. So no. It would be it would be   interesting if the Department of Education was abolished.   And the thing that I like is within that bill, it talks about all of the other things that the that it does. Like,   one of the biggest reasons that people say we can't get rid of the edgy Department of Education   is because of the assistance that they give schools in,   with handicapped children.  



[00:08:50] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:08:51] Jamon Fries:

But this bill specifically passes that duty on to appropriate departments within the government that are supposed to handle those things. So with the with the with the handicapped students, it passes that responsibility on to   the,   to the HHS.   Oh, okay. Okay. Makes sense. So, you know, instead of instead of gathering all of that under this under 1, all of your college loans, like the Pell Grant and the and the and the Stanford loans and stuff like that Right. That'll all be that would all be put under the treasury department.  

[00:09:26] Jesse Fries:

Okay. Well, it makes sense. They would have Yeah. So so And so, basically   so there'd also have to be some shifting of personnel to take care of that from the Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And everything like that. But yeah. Okay. Yeah.  

[00:09:38] Jamon Fries:

Makes sense. Yeah. But the bill just it so so the bill takes every beneficial aspect of the Department of Education   and puts it into   into gather other bureaucracies   that are meant to deal with those types of issues.   Okay. Makes sense. Makes sense. So it's a that's a pretty rounded up bill. So, you know, I'm I'm kinda I'd I'd love to see it go.  

[00:10:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I wouldn't see why not. With Doge and everything like that, it'll probably get done. So Yep.  

[00:10:07] Jamon Fries:

Yep.  

[00:10:09] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:10:12] Jamon Fries:

And then,   let me see here.   I heard   Trump   that,   according to   a couple of websites that I looked at, Trump threatened basically threatened Mexico.   How so now? He he said if if   if you don't if you don't help with our borders, if if you don't   assist in getting the see in stopping the people from coming to our borders No. We are going to put massive tariffs on you. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay.   He he did one phone call,   and   Mexico the Mexican president capitulated.  

[00:11:01] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. He he he tends to do that. He   he he he's willing to   play the hard game, when it comes to tariffs and just politics and everything like that.   He's like, you doubt me? Okay. Yeah. There was one other  

[00:11:17] Jamon Fries:

no. There was one other thing that he,   that he   threatened to that he threatened to Mexico.   Uh-huh. You know, Mexico kind   of Mexico kind of works with, but also against a lot of some of the cartels.   You know, the they're   Mexico's pretty a pretty corrupt government. So Right. You know, in according to many people. I mean, I I don't know personally out firsthand, but according to many people, there's a lot of corruption in the Mexican government.   And Right. Part of that seems to come from the cartels.   And so Trump threatened to send the special forces against the cartels.   Now, according according to this according to this article,   is is the response was, so it looks like Mexico is planning to be extra helpful on the border.  



[00:12:12] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. And  

[00:12:14] Jamon Fries:

the Sinaloa Cartel is killing Fentanyl makers just to stay off Trump's bad side.  

[00:12:22] Jesse Fries:

Hey. Yeah. If you get   you don't want the special forces to come for your ass. That's one thing you really don't want. No.  

[00:12:29] Jamon Fries:

No. I guess, about 12 12 days after that phone call,   the Mexican government   went to the went to the new to the latest caravan coming up to the US Uh-huh. And they turned him around.   Jesus.   12 days later, they turned him around.  

[00:12:50] Jesse Fries:

It's surprising what Trump can do just with a a phone call sometimes. Just just one phone call. Yeah.  

[00:12:57] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, and and But you see, it should be that way. If you  

[00:13:00] Jesse Fries:

if you think about it, it's he we're always told that the president is the most powerful man on the planet. Right?   Well,   looks like Trump is just using it. You know? He's using that power. Yeah. Exactly. Well, I mean, the and that's, you know, that's why  

[00:13:16] Jamon Fries:

that's why he had a good record with new wars and stuff like that in his first firm because he didn't capitulate. He he used the strength that we have.   Yep. To make sure that nobody did sheds.  

[00:13:29] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:13:31] Jamon Fries:

So, yeah, that that was a   that that was a very interesting story.   And then I I also saw one about,   something about in his last term, in his in his first term,   I guess he had a policy   that   at least I never heard of. It was never reported on any news station that I ever heard of. Uh-huh. And that was his right to try policy.   Have you ever heard of that?  

[00:14:02] Jesse Fries:

Explain it. Maybe I have. I don't know.  

[00:14:05] Jamon Fries:

So   he he had a policy   where even if a drug hadn't been approved by the FDA   Uh-huh. If you as a person   wanted to try it because, you know, it was a brand new drug that might that might save your life or something  

[00:14:23] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:14:24] Jamon Fries:

He he his policy was that you have the right to try that drug.  

[00:14:28] Jesse Fries:

Oh, that's cool. That's cool.   Yeah.  

[00:14:32] Jamon Fries:

And That makes sense. The story that the story that came up with that that I read that in, it had absolutely nothing to do with his right to try thing. So I had to look into his right to try thing a little bit earlier. But Right. But,   so Natalie Harp, which is basically his assistant,   she   she does all she she   basically types everything he says. So he says something and it becomes a Twitter post, an ex post, or something like that. She she's the one that types it in. Okay. And   her story is that she was she was one of the ones that benefited from his right to try policy,   a drug that had hadn't even started hadn't even started testing yet.  

Uh-huh. She wanted to try it, and it saved her life.  

[00:15:24] Jesse Fries:

Oh, nice. Nice.  

[00:15:26] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   So she is   so,   yeah. But so but I guess he's bringing her into the White House as well. So   that's,   that was what the story was about. But Nice. Yeah. For me, it was the right to try policy. That was just insane. I'd and I'd never heard about that on in from the media.   Right. That was one of the you know, one of his probably many policies  

[00:15:50] Jesse Fries:

that nobody ever reported on. Well, if you're gonna die, might as well try.  

[00:15:55] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. You know? It's That that makes sense. That's what yeah. Absolutely. I mean, if if you are given absolutely no chance at living  

[00:16:03] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:16:04] Jamon Fries:

Try   everything   that's possible.   Right. Right. I mean, if even even if somebody just put the chemicals together in the test lab and says, we think this might work, I would be trying that if I were gonna die with if I were gonna die before too long. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't care. Completely.   Mhmm. If it goes wrong, I'm dead anyways. So who cares?  

[00:16:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. That that's not what I figured too. So it's,   it's like if you're gonna die, if you have cancer and,   like Yeah. Marijuana or whatever helps you, who cares? Just do it. You know? It's, that sort of thing. So  

[00:16:45] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. There's so many times that you I hear stories about people that are that have, like, that are given, like, a month to live because of the illness.   Right. They have to go overseas   because the drug is is allowed overseas, but it's not allowed here.  

[00:17:00] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[00:17:03] Jamon Fries:

You know, it'd be it would be so much better   if they could just stay here   and be able to take that drug   even if the f d FDA doesn't approve it. I mean, it it's a drug that could save their life. They're gonna die in a month anyways. So Yep. You know, might as well try it because it might just save you.   Mhmm.   Exactly.   Yeah.  

[00:17:25] Jesse Fries:

Cool. That is cool. So  

[00:17:27] Jamon Fries:

that that's   mostly what I have on   on gov on federal politics.   There is one state politics that's very interesting and I think highly illegal.   Uh-huh. It's at least unconstitutional.  

[00:17:45] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:17:47] Jamon Fries:

So Newsom over out in California   is trying to make some changes to the,   electric vehicle credits that they give saying   that Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Will not be eligible for any EV credits.  

[00:18:05] Jesse Fries:

Well, it So it's yeah. I saw that too. You can't get any of those credits for it. Yeah. I saw that too. It it looks like the way it's written is that the the market leader or whatever   can't get credits.   And Tesla is the market leader. So yeah.  

[00:18:22] Jamon Fries:

Which is just so much crap.   I you you know the second the second Tesla is not the leader if that were to ever happen.   That that bill would go away in a heartbeat.  

[00:18:35] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Yep. Yep. I didn't   it's purely  

[00:18:38] Jamon Fries:

it's purely aimed at Musk because of his politics.  

[00:18:42] Jesse Fries:

Probably so. I would not doubt it. Would not doubt it at all.   But, you know, it's just like,   Trump's,   like, trying to get rid of birthright citizenship. That that that's that's nearly unconstitutional because of the 14th amendment. It's just it's it's written in the constitution. It's just I don't I don't think you can get rid of  

[00:19:01] Jamon Fries:

get rid of that. I I haven't liked that idea since the since he mentioned it.   I know people have tried to get rid of it in the past. People have said that they're against it in the past, but,   you know, that that's one of that's one of the core founding   principles of the United States is that if you're born here,   you're from here.  

[00:19:22] Jesse Fries:

Right. Right. Right. Yep.  

[00:19:24] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   So it says I I'm I'm against I'm against getting rid of that. That that's one of the one of the few things that I strongly disagree with him about.  

[00:19:36] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.   Yeah. I don't see a need to do that either. It's like No.   You know, you can Well, I mean, the the biggest reason If their parents are illegal, you can also send them back with the parents. You it's just something you can do. You know? But that  

[00:19:51] Jamon Fries:

that actually is   that actually is one of the biggest reasons   that that he wants to get rid of it is because Right. There have been so many instances where states have said no, that the child is a US citizen,   so the parents have every right to stay here. You can't kick them  

[00:20:10] Jesse Fries:

out. Yep. Yep. You can't be here. Them. And Yeah. It's written in the constitution. So that's just yep. Yeah. And there's nothing you can do about it. It's written in the constitution. There's not unless if you have a constitutional amendment   about that Yep. You know, it's,  

[00:20:23] Jamon Fries:

you know. Which would never go.  

[00:20:27] Jesse Fries:

No. I don't think it would pass enough house enough states. No.   So yeah. I don't think it'd be even a possibility, really. No.  

[00:20:38] Jamon Fries:

But, yes, that's all I've got on politics.  

[00:20:44] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   The only other like, international politics is,   like,   what is it? The ICC,   arrests issued arrest warrants for,   Benjamin Netanyahu.   So   Oh, that's not shocking.   No. No. And also for one of his, under liens,   let's see. Oh, defense minister, former defense minister,   Eyav Gallant.   They also   did one against the Hamas leader, but everybody knows he's dead.   But the he's not confirmed, so,   they did one to him too.   But   that's interesting. Yeah. I mean It's safe to  

[00:21:36] Jamon Fries:

against him because he's dead. So  

[00:21:38] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   It's interesting to me because I I think   it's interesting to me,   because it's like I've always thought the ICC was useless and stupid and   should just go away.   Yeah. But but it's like apparently the United States, we have this law   to where if any one of our,   soldiers   or our presidents   or,   even an ally   gets arrested by the Hague, right, for the ICC. Yeah. There there's   it's written into our law   that   we can   invade The Hague   and break them out of prison.  

[00:22:23] Jamon Fries:

Oh, boy.  

[00:22:24] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah.   It's called the Hague Invasion Act.   It was,  

[00:22:32] Jamon Fries:

back in 2002. It makes sense.  

[00:22:35] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It was back in 2002 that they did this.  

[00:22:40] Jamon Fries:

Okay.   So yeah. And it's our allies too. It's that Yeah. Yeah. They they wanted they wanted to make sure that if the Hague went after Bush for Iraq or something like that, that we could go in and pull them out.  

[00:22:52] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Yep. So, yeah, the Hague invasion act. I love   that. So so we have an act that allows us legally from our side to invade our NATO ally.   Isn't that awesome?  

[00:23:07] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Yeah.   Very interesting.   But only if they  

[00:23:18] Jesse Fries:

arrest somewhat one of our other allies or some Or our soldiers. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And Israel is part of that. So yeah. It's,   uh-huh. Otherwise, we don't care. But you mess with us or our buddies,   we're coming for you. Yep. Yep.   Yep.   So, yeah, that probably won't go anywhere.  

[00:23:38] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you know, that's   that makes sense that we would that that there would be something like that. I mean, you know,   if not that, there would have some other form of protection to protect the United States.   The criminal court that really,   I mean, could be massively   abused.  

[00:24:00] Jesse Fries:

Well,   I think that's pretty much all it ever does. You know? It's it's  

[00:24:05] Jamon Fries:

this whole thing  

[00:24:10] Jesse Fries:

yes. People should be nice, but that's not humanity. I don't understand this whole push to No.   Try for war crimes this or whatnot. You know, if you're a if you're a loser, yeah, we can kill you. So like in Germany, you know, we had the the Nuremberg   trials.   And, you know Yeah. Fine. We we were the winner. You died,   go off. But the international community, you know, think it should have anything to do with it. They can go suck an egg for all that. No. So  

[00:24:38] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. The the inter an international community that is not involved in the war in any way, shape, or form   No. Should not be involved   in debt because, I mean,   basically, what you could do with that is say, well,   we don't like the person that won, so we're gonna bring them up on war crime charges.   Yep. Yep. Yep. And basically do a coup.   Yes. Yes. A coup by a foreign power.  

[00:25:05] Jesse Fries:

I mean,  

[00:25:06] Jamon Fries:

that it's just so bad.  

[00:25:10] Jesse Fries:

I think so. I think so. Yeah.  

[00:25:13] Jamon Fries:

I mean, there's it's so would be it's so easy for it to be misused, and it gets misused a lot.   So, yeah, I I don't really you know, I   they wanted to bring it around for for Nazi Germany. I   fine. You know? You wanna do that, but it shouldn't have been it shouldn't have been   some it shouldn't have been,   like, an international thing. It should have just been,   we, the allies, the allied powers are bringing people on charges of doing this. Yeah. That's what it was. Become so much more than that. Well, I mean yeah. But that was just the Nuremberg trial. So that wasn't like ICC. That wasn't anything like that. Yeah. It was just, yeah. Absolutely. But but it's but it's it's gone and but it the day that those trials ended,   it should have been terminated.  



[00:26:03] Jesse Fries:

Well, it was, and then they just brought it back later on is what had happened. So it's, it's Yeah. And it should it should never have been brought back.   I mean Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:26:14] Jamon Fries:

Just like you know, I've just like the UN, I don't really see a purpose for the UN. It doesn't do anything. It doesn't stop wars, which is what it's supposed to do.   Mhmm. I mean, it   the one duty that it has, it fails miserably   every single time in.  

[00:26:32] Jesse Fries:

Yes.  

[00:26:33] Jamon Fries:

Yes. It does. Yes. It does. So what's the purpose of it? What's the point of it being there?  

[00:26:40] Jesse Fries:

There isn't much of one. There isn't much of one. No. There isn't.  

[00:26:43] Jamon Fries:

Looks like the ICC We   Uh-huh. Go ahead.  

[00:26:50] Jesse Fries:

Oh,   the ICC,   was,   it was formed   in,   2002.   So basically, that same year that, it went into force.   Okay. So we we we passed the Hague invasion act.  

[00:27:06] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you know, at least that's better than if it had been in place for, like,   30, 40 years, and then we passed that just because, you know, we were afraid that they might go after Bush or something. Uh-huh.   Yep. Yep. I it completely makes sense that as soon as it's formed, we put we pass the law that, hey, you know, you go after us or our allies.   We're not gonna take it so kindly.  

[00:27:30] Jesse Fries:

Well, we did sign on to it actually when it first came out. I think Bill Clinton did. Yeah. Yeah. It   was 1998,   but then we left it   pretty shortly thereafter,   so did Russia. Yep. So it's like, no. We're out of here.  

[00:27:45] Jamon Fries:

Well, yeah. That and that's because it wanted to change the laws of every country that was signed on into it. It wanted every country to conform to their law, to what to their regulations and their laws,   and there's no way in hell the US was or Russia were gonna put up with that.  

[00:28:02] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Same with China or India. Yeah. There's a whole bunch that haven't like the big ones too. You know, it's like Yeah. Yeah. China can be countries in the the most powerful countries in the world are not gonna let some international  

[00:28:16] Jamon Fries:

court tell them what their laws should be.  

[00:28:19] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.   And who we can kill. Yeah. It's   Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And how we can kill them.  

[00:28:26] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   Yes. That that that's very interesting.  

[00:28:34] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep. I thought so. I thought so.   Let's see here.   Because he also kinda, I guess,   looks like, the there's been some inquiries into the BBC   about COVID. Okay.   And, basically,   it was found,   during the   the UK is doing a COVID inquiry,   and they heard how the BBC   was allowed to misrepresent   the risk posed by COVID to most people.   And that was in order to boost the public support for lockdown.   So basically, everybody knew that   normal healthy people   barely ever died,   but they always bumped up those numbers and everything like that, said everybody was at risk, everybody was at risk, and that was only so that they could lock the country down over in the UK. I think it was the same thing happened here.  

[00:29:27] Jamon Fries:

But Well, yeah, here with the,   3.3.5   percent of people who get COVID are gonna die of COVID is what the media was reporting for so long.   Trump came out and said, no. It's less than 1%, and they called him a nut job.  

[00:29:43] Jesse Fries:

Well, it turns out it was much less than 1%. And it was only pretty much the old. You you know, there were, of course, some Yeah. Younger ones. There's always gonna be somebody that gets that dies from it. But a lot of those deaths were also due to just mismanagement of the illness itself. You know, putting on the breathing machines and everything.  

[00:30:02] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So that killed so many people.   Oh, yeah. That it did. That was insane.   Uh-huh.   Which, you know, it doesn't really surprise me that much,   but I know that they that there were a lot of reports coming out that said if you if you're having if you get COVID,   don't go on a respirator. Instead,   use a, CPAP.  

[00:30:26] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[00:30:29] Jamon Fries:

And supposedly, the CPAP worked much better and had a much better survival rate than the than,   than the other things did. So  

[00:30:38] Jesse Fries:

Well, during that whole time, it seemed like they weren't treating,   like,   they they, like, forgot everything they know about illness and started treating it completely different than every any illness. Yeah. And you're just, like, go, just leave it alone, people. Just treat it like any other illness, like any other flu or cold, like for the symptoms. Treat the symptoms as you would treat the symptoms for any other thing.   And then let's go from there. Don't just throw them on machine or whatnot or this or that, you know, it's,   yeah.  



[00:31:05] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, the talking about the BBC, there was, one story that I   ran across that was I found very interesting. So there was this kid   in,   in high school, I think.  

[00:31:18] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:31:20] Jamon Fries:

Pretty sure. Well, it was   in England. You know, they they   some of some of their schools are like the entire education system up before college.   You know, that's just like some of our academies and stuff like that here where it's k through 12.   So it was it was that type of school over there where Right.   The BBC and basically every other news media   came out saying that   this kid went and attacked a Syrian refugee   just because   he wanted just because he could and, you know, that he was racist and everything else like that.  

[00:31:56] Jesse Fries:

Mhmm.  

[00:31:58] Jamon Fries:

So one reporter   who is now sitting in jail,   one reporter   went and dug into the story.   Uh-huh. It turns out that just the day before or earlier that day,   that Syrian refugee   who was   very,   very   disliked by basically everybody in the school because he was a bully that would that would constantly beat up kids younger than him. He was   constantly lying to to the teachers about anything. He'd say that that this guy did something to him in school, but the kid wasn't even in school that day.  

[00:32:35] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:32:36] Jamon Fries:

You know, that type of stuff.   Got it. It turns out that he had threatened   to rape this kid's 2 year 2 9 22   younger sisters. 1 of who's 9 years old. The other one's even younger.  

[00:32:50] Jesse Fries:

Jesus.  

[00:32:52] Jamon Fries:

And so he went and beat the shit out of him.  

[00:32:55] Jesse Fries:

Yeah.   As he should have done.  

[00:32:58] Jamon Fries:

And the BBC   didn't look into this story at all.   And and just   it it went so so far that I mean, I have   you know,   I think it's Pierce Morgan   Uh-huh. The guy that seems to seems to be on the that seems to support Trump in the right wing now. Yep. She went so far as to saying that this kid needs to be dealt with   because he was because he was a racist and a bully and all this other stuff.  

[00:33:30] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. You you you say you're gonna rape anybody in my family?  

[00:33:34] Jamon Fries:

I'm sorry. You're you're you won't be alive the next day.  

[00:33:39] Jesse Fries:

Exactly. Exactly. It's, that's just not cool. You just   yeah. No. That that sounds about right. You know? It's,  

[00:33:46] Jamon Fries:

It it got it got so bad after that story broke out   that   and, oh god, it's bad.   So Mhmm. The,   so the the   Muslim community of the the Muslim community, of course, went up and got got up into rage. Let's say, one one imam was went out in front of the school, and he was leading protests and stuff like that.  

[00:34:11] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:34:12] Jamon Fries:

So they they got news that there was a group of people with machetes that were that were headed towards their house.   And so the police came over and they took him out out of there and we're gonna put them into a quote unquote safe place.  

[00:34:27] Jesse Fries:

Right.  

[00:34:29] Jamon Fries:

So the community that they drove them to   was the Muslim slums   where which had 3   of the this imam that was over protesting,   3 of his 3 of his,   mosques   were   surrounding the hotel.   Jesus. There was a brothel right next door to this one hotel that they were gonna put them up   to. Wow. And the mom was just like, you know what? Fuck this. Got out of the got out of the police car, took the kids, and left. She went and found her own accommodations.  

[00:35:09] Jesse Fries:

Oh, completely. Completely.  

[00:35:11] Jamon Fries:

Wow. But I mean, they were put they were they wanted to put that family right in the middle   of the people that wanted to kill them.  

[00:35:19] Jesse Fries:

Sounds about right. Sounds about right.   The the UK is getting messed up right now. They need to do something. Well,  

[00:35:27] Jamon Fries:

okay. Well, now it doesn't it also doesn't help that,   that the imam,   his brother or one of his relatives   is on the city council that sent them to that hotel.  

[00:35:41] Jesse Fries:

Got it. Got it. Got it. So good old corruption then. Okay.  

[00:35:45] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Massively.   And Wow. But I mean, the the reason the reason that that the threats for raping his sisters was even more bad   Uh-huh. Was because they had just gone in   and round and rounded up 96   people   that had assaulted and raped women   as a group   in that neighborhood.  

[00:36:10] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. I I I seriously don't I mean, this had just happened.   Yep. I I don't know how   our Western cultures are allowing this to happen is just not copacetic.   It's not cool. It's not this is not something we tolerate.   You kick those fuckers out and that's what you do. Plain and simple.   Especially when it comes to rape. Rape is just it's just that's one thing. It's like,   they're disrespectful women. It's just crazy sometimes. It's, it's   I saw one report  

[00:36:49] Jamon Fries:

that in some countries,   ever since the,   ever since that that area has started immigrating up in started fleeing   up into Europe and into the UK and over here to the US and stuff,   there are some countries where   54%   roughly over 50%   of all sexual assaults   Uh-huh. Are done   by illegal immigrants.   Yep. And that only make then they only make up 8% of the population.   Mhmm.  

[00:37:23] Jesse Fries:

I mean Yep.   Just Their cultures are different. They they they think it's fine. You can they think they can do whatever they want with a woman.   It's Yeah. I mean, the in in their cultures, it's perfectly normal to degrade and then control women in a way. But a lot of but a lot of times, it's also illegal to do what they're doing in those countries. But but in those in their actual countries,   they they get their hand chopped off or something like that if they do crap like this. The the rules say, we we don't have   the   we we don't have the barbarity to deal with this. So we we Yeah. We yeah. Exactly.  



[00:37:59] Jamon Fries:

Exactly.   You know, I never thought of it that way, but that makes so much sense.   And over over in those countries, you do shit wrong, you get stoned to death.   Exactly.   Yeah. Yeah. That's something that you'll never see happen here.  

[00:38:13] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And the mobs will actually get you. You know? It's over there. You know? It's,  

[00:38:19] Jamon Fries:

yeah. So   Simply for   for infidelity, if a if a woman is is is cheats on her husband,   she gets stoned to death   by the community.   Yep. I I mean   yeah. We will never do stuff like that.  

[00:38:35] Jesse Fries:

Nope.   Nope. Wait. No way.  

[00:38:39] Jamon Fries:

No. No.   The world is a crazy place.  

[00:38:46] Jesse Fries:

It is a crazy place. It craziest.  

[00:38:49] Jamon Fries:

Speaking of crazy  

[00:38:51] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:38:51] Jamon Fries:

Did you hear that, Toyota has decided to get rid of d I DEI,   and they are also   they've also decided not to sponsor any pride events anymore.  

[00:39:02] Jesse Fries:

Nice. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Get you know, just   just get back to selling whatever you're selling and try to stop trying to do anything else. Oh, yeah.  

[00:39:12] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. That's what I figured. Companies should companies should not be involved in this in social dress justice causes.   They should just sell their product.   You know, I mean, as long as as long as their product and the the another thing is that people should not hold   a company's president   or CEO   as   the entire company.   You know, if if a CEO does does or says something bad, do you that's not a reason to boycott a company.   Uh-huh. And if their products are if their products are good and beneficial to the con to our country,   we need them to stay in business.  

Mhmm. Yep. Otherwise, we start buying from other from other countries, and   you never know what the social justice stuff in those other countries is like.  

[00:40:02] Jesse Fries:

Yep. And then just, like, just release, like, what, today or yesterday or something like that. There's a study,   A new study claimed that DEI practices actually lead to   more hostility   and racial tensions Yeah. Than not having   DEI. Yeah. Yeah. So that's Yep. Yep. Quite interesting.  

[00:40:23] Jamon Fries:

Then there was   a interesting head speaking about DEI, there was an interesting headline,   an interesting post in x anyways.  

[00:40:32] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:40:33] Jamon Fries:

New Zealand's first lesbian ship captain sees   first warship sunk since World War 2.  

[00:40:42] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. I saw that too. It was a good headline. The story was a bit different than that. Oh, I see. Yep. The headline is hilarious. It was,  

[00:40:50] Jamon Fries:

it was a naval ship that was that was,   so that was supposed to   survey the the, reefs and stuff like that, and it ended up running aground.  

[00:41:00] Jesse Fries:

And Well, it still got too close.  

[00:41:03] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of, there were a lot of questions about if she was actually a qualified ship captain   or if she was just another DEI hire.  

[00:41:16] Jesse Fries:

So you see see, that's the problem with DEI is is what it's caused   is it's caused people to   wonder if,   the minority   that   is dealing with them is actually qualified.   You know, it's   you know, the white guy, straight white guy is qualified because otherwise he wouldn't have been hired because, well, DEI wouldn't have allowed it otherwise.   But Yep. But with but it's it's like reverse racism sort of situation.   You know? It's like Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   It's like it's actually proving   a detriment.  

[00:41:54] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Well and and the problem is you know, the thing is is that there's so many mistakes that people make in their jobs.   I mean,   that's not the 1st ship to run a ground. I'm I highly doubt that's the 1st warship   to run a ground somewhere.   But the fact that the fact that it that she was a minority, that she was a LGBTQ   person,   that   that is what made it a story.  

[00:42:20] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[00:42:22] Jamon Fries:

I and if if it weren't for that, you'd see a little blob in the news, like, in on the back page somewhere   saying that one of New Zealand's   word   that one of New Zealand's ships sunk.  

[00:42:34] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. We still would have laughed at him,   but we we we probably would have been laughing at New Zealand   over the actual captain.   So Yes. So Absolutely. Maybe they did it on purpose so that New Zealand wouldn't be laughed at. They're just the captain. Maybe so. That could be. Maybe. There's a conspiracy   theory for you. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:42:54] Jamon Fries:

Yep. New Zealand threw her under the bus.  

[00:42:57] Jesse Fries:

Exactly.   Exactly.   Let's see here. Oh,   I have one story. Apparently, MIT   is going to go tuition free for families making less than 200 k a year.   Oh, damn.   Yep.  

[00:43:19] Jamon Fries:

And if you make under That's pretty great.  

[00:43:22] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. And if you make under if the family makes under a 100,000,   it is completely free, like free board, free how,   board, food, everything.   Doesn't matter. They'll just take care of it all. And   yeah. Ribbon board covered. That's that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To to me, this is what it's like Harvard and whatnot. They have these huge endowments.   Like, people give them so many 1,000,000 of dollars. Right?  

[00:43:48] Jamon Fries:

And then  

[00:43:50] Jesse Fries:

what do they do with it? Nothing. They sit on it like it's a freaking egg, and they're a bird trying to hatch that sucker. You know? The the the that's what they're trying to do. This shows this is what those endowments are for, is to get to help people that can't afford to go there   actually go there. You know? It's not to get a new pretty building unless if that's what they actually did it for. But if it's just money Oh, yeah. I did it. If the money is donated if the if the money is donated specifically to build a new building,  

[00:44:17] Jamon Fries:

then, yeah, for all means, build that building.   Yep. But if it's just a general endowment, there's so many better things that could be used for.   I Nope. You know, there there's no there's no reason   that   a qualified   undergrad   should leave college   with   a 100,000, $200,000   in debt. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yep.  

[00:44:44] Jesse Fries:

Well, I agree because that's how I graduated.  

[00:44:48] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   I I I only went for I only got my associates, but I'm 60 grand on in debt.   Yep. Yep. I mean, you know, it's just now that was 3 different attempts at college to get to that point.  

[00:45:03] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. It's you now. Yeah. Well, down here, even,   UT,   University of Texas, they've actually,   in in their whole system,   they if you make under if the family makes   a $100,000   or less, it's also free tuition.   Last year, it's like 66,000,   but this year, they bumped it up to a $100,000,   for Texas residents. Texas residents Yeah. That go to, the UT program. Oh, yeah. I I I completely  

[00:45:35] Jamon Fries:

understand doing it for in state only. I I don't do it for out of state.  

[00:45:39] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. But,   yeah. No. I mean, that's just just an international  

[00:45:43] Jamon Fries:

thing. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And MIT MIT has to it has to do it for for everybody because, I mean, they're they're not I I highly doubt   that even   30%   of the pop of the students in MIT   are actually from Massachusetts.  

[00:46:02] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep. And tuition there is,   58,000,   a year, or it was in 20 Yeah. The 22, 23 school year. Yeah. So Yep.   So it's a big chunk.  

[00:46:18] Jamon Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I would love to see a lot more schools do that. I would,   you know, it but at the same time,   I would also   like to see   when did   the ACT and SAT stop mattering?  

[00:46:39] Jesse Fries:

Was that about No. Actually, I I actually, it's coming back. It's it's coming back, actually.  

[00:46:45] Jamon Fries:

So the schools accept That's what I think needs to happen. There needs to be some some form of standardized test that you take to see what to I mean, that way a school knows that   you might actually be able to   Oh, yeah. Get your degree.  

[00:47:02] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. No. They they've realized that it was stupid to not look at those scores.   And I think MIT was part of that.   And it's yeah. So they're really they're starting to look at those numbers again,   just because   you you need some reference   of,  

[00:47:20] Jamon Fries:

the ability to actually do it. You can't just   you know, a lot of them, they go by their high school GPA.   Uh-huh. I mean  

[00:47:29] Jesse Fries:

High school suck. I'm not I'm sorry. They just pass you. Gonna say that  

[00:47:34] Jamon Fries:

I'm not gonna say that that I was a good student in high school.   I graduated high school with a 1.6   GPA.   I mean, it was bad,   but I got my associate's degree with a 3.7.  

[00:47:50] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep.  

[00:47:51] Jamon Fries:

You know, I mean, I did so much better in college than I ever than I ever did in high school.   And also age and everything like that. You did college much later, so it was, Well, yeah. But, I mean, even even my first few attempts at college, I'd when I actually went to classes Oh, yeah. I Nope. Got nothing but straight a's and b and and high band b classes.  

[00:48:12] Jesse Fries:

When you actually went to classes.  

[00:48:14] Jamon Fries:

Well, you know, there there was always there was I I was I was always on the verge of not being eligible for financial aid even up till the last year that I got my associate's degree   because, I mean, there you know, I just I get overwhelmed by, like, 2 of the 2 or 3 of the classes that I was taking. And so I'd concentrate on them so hard that I would completely ignore the other ones that I took. Right. And so I'd I'd there wasn't a semester that I didn't fail at least one class.   And I but that's simply because I'd stopped going to it and never did the homework, you know. That's funny. That's funny. And then later on, I would take that class and I'd get an a in it. So, you know, when because because I had other classes that I was ignoring.  

[00:48:56] Jesse Fries:

Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, here at the Mindless Meanderings, we use the value for value model. This means you are the producers of the show, and you can help in all aspects of the show.   This has been described as time, talent, or treasure. You can help out by doing anything you want, show, art,   anything.   Just pass the word even to other people about the podcast. That'd be great.   You can also send us information,   for topics that we cover, and you can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com,   and you can email jamen@jamen@mindlessmeanderings.com.   But, please give us your money, that your treasure, that would help us out a lot to cover the costs of actually doing this podcast.  

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[00:50:44] Jamon Fries:

I got a couple of just small little things.   One is   kind of a funny meme that I ran across, but it's   it it made me think about something else, and I'm now upset at the,   at the Liberals who who developed the Blue Sky platform.  

[00:51:05] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:51:07] Jamon Fries:

So the meme was a little girl talking to her mom.   Mom, what is Blue Sky?   It's Twitter for pedophiles, honey.  

[00:51:17] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a   yeah, they're having some growing pains over there.  

[00:51:24] Jamon Fries:

That's, that's what they're having. It's,  

[00:51:27] Jesse Fries:

out out. Yep.  

[00:51:29] Jamon Fries:

But what what, what upsets me about the the people that that made Blue Sky is that they named it Blue Sky.   Do you know what Blue Sky is?  

[00:51:39] Jesse Fries:

Well, it's a Blue Sky.   I don't know.  

[00:51:42] Jamon Fries:

No. No. It's it's actually   a   it   it's used a lot in accounting   and in evaluation of a company.   So Blue Sky   is is the value of a company   after you take all of the asset, the physical assets   and liabilities away from from it. So it's the it's basically whatever you can't put a dollar value to   is Blue Sky.   So so if a company has has assets of, say, $500,000,000   and you go in and you buy the company for a $1,000,000,000   Uh-huh. There's 500,000,000 of Blue Sky.   Okay. So it's it's the extra evaluation of the company. It's usually,   like,   if they have any patents or if they have any,   like, for music companies, any song that that they own,   you know, because there's no actual physical value to those products.  

And so blue sky is the term for those products.   And now it's been completely corrupted.  

[00:52:51] Jesse Fries:

Well,   that happens. That happens. It's,   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you're trying to find a name for any company, it's a pain in the butt. You know? It's,   yeah. So  

[00:53:05] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Although although I after thinking about it, I think it did actually make a little bit of sense to name it blue sky.   Right. After all, it's it's something   that   really has no value, but you give it about but you give it value.   Well, I mean, it's a liberal platform. It has no value, but you give it value.  

[00:53:30] Jesse Fries:

You're funny.   Let's see here. Oh, it looks like,   in mice, they found that, like,   that Ozempic or that drug, what the actual drug is or something like that. What is it? The Yeah.  

[00:53:48] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. But apparently, it shrinks the heart's I can't remember the drug that my doctors wanna put me on. Right. Right. It's  

[00:53:53] Jesse Fries:

it it shrinks the,   muscle   in mice.   So   it's including the heart.   So Yeah.  

[00:54:05] Jamon Fries:

It wouldn't it doesn't surprise me.  

[00:54:07] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. There was a study out of the University of   Alberta.   My brother-in-law   said Alberta. That was funny.   But yeah.   Yep.  

[00:54:23] Jamon Fries:

And I I do have something interesting,   from the construction world.  

[00:54:29] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:54:31] Jamon Fries:

So you know how Roman concrete has always been held up as, like, the best concrete ever because of how long it's lasted? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've they've actually   discovered how it works and how to make it.  

[00:54:46] Jesse Fries:

Yep. Yep. Yep.  

[00:54:50] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So they what you know, at first, they they found out that the Romans used seawater instead of freshwater.   Okay. You needed to have the salt in there.   But that really that didn't really make a lot of sense because the salt does absolutely nothing in the in the standard concrete mix.   Right. But last year,   they found out that   they they discovered that they they actually put,   shit. I forgot the name of it.   Scientists just reverse engineered the.   Scientists just reverse engineered the formulary Quicklime. Concrete   and They put they put Quicklime into it.  

And what that does   and and the reason that that makes the concrete last so long   is because the mixture of the seawater with the click quicklime   meet makes it so that there's large chunks of lime that are left behind in the in the concrete.  

[00:55:49] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[00:55:50] Jamon Fries:

So you, you couldn't do something like a thin sheet or anything like that. It would have to be significantly   thick because it leaves these chunks of lime in there. And what happens is when it rains,   the rain goes down, activates that lime and it starts making new concrete   So the the concrete heals itself.  

[00:56:09] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty sweet. Isn't it? Yep.   Yep.  

[00:56:13] Jamon Fries:

Can you imagine if our roads were made with something like that?  

[00:56:18] Jesse Fries:

It it would be cool. It would be cool. It's,   yeah, if it has enough strength just to begin with because, you you know,   that that stuff wasn't really designed for cars. So it it's hard to say. But, yeah, if you could use that and somehow change it to make it, work for ours, that'd be pretty sweet. That would be pretty sweet. Yeah.  

[00:56:36] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. So I thought that was very interesting.   I mean, you know, for for so long, I've been hearing, you know, that we that they wish they could figure out how the how the Romans made their concrete because it's so much better than what we've got.   And they've and it took them a while, but they finally figured it out.  

[00:56:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. That's cool. That is cool.   Old technologies that are new.  

[00:56:59] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.  

[00:57:03] Jesse Fries:

Let's see here.   I have,   one to where apparently, they've, figured out a way   to maybe stop the microplastic   issue. You know, there's microplastics everywhere and everything like that.   Oh, yeah. Yeah.   So basically, what,   what it is is that, they've,   scientists have created a plastic that vanishes in seawater.   So basically, what it does is it the the chemical bonds will just dissolve in seawater,   to where it will just break down into its   what actually made it. Not it it won't stay as plastic. It'll just revert to its very basic   multi multiple forms of pot of,   oil or this or that, but the natural   stuff.  

And so it'll just break apart in seawater.   So   apparently, though, if you wanna use it where it might get wet, you have to add a coating to it so it doesn't, like, just dissolve.   You know? But  

[00:58:01] Jamon Fries:

Well, I mean, you know, that that would be kind of one of the things you'd have to do considering that   salt that seawater can completely get rid of it. You know? You'd have to kind of take them from water a little bit. Yeah. But they're clear. They're durable. They can be reshaped  

[00:58:15] Jesse Fries:

with heat just like regular thermoplastics.   One version even for them to be fireproof.   So,   yeah. It's,   yeah, it's a interesting thing. Wonder if they can   bump that up and if it will actually be feasible. Because some of these things, you know, it's like, well, it it dissolves too quickly, dude.  

[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:

You know, it's kinda useless, you know, in the real world. Not not only that, but, you know, one one of the one of the largest plastic pollutants out there.   What what is one of the largest plastic   pollutants out there?  

[00:58:49] Jesse Fries:

I don't know.  

[00:58:51] Jamon Fries:

The water bottle.  

[00:58:53] Jesse Fries:

Yeah. Yep. Yep.  

[00:58:56] Jamon Fries:

We couldn't use that with a water bottle.  

[00:59:00] Jesse Fries:

Well, you'd have to have a lining.   A plastic lining that is protects the plastic from Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. So I thought that was a bit yeah. I I I was thinking of all the problems that that could   come from it. But, you know, if you could actually make it work, seems kinda interesting.  

[00:59:23] Jamon Fries:

So Yeah. No. Absolutely. I mean, you know, it would be   it would be nice if we could find a replacement for the plastics in a lot of things, but   I don't see that happening anytime soon. I mean,   I I don't see our reliance on plastic ever disappearing.  

[00:59:41] Jesse Fries:

It might. It might.   We could go back to glass.   That'd work.   Yeah. Grocery stores would love that. You know, they'd have to clean up all those pop bottles that spill every so often. You know? It's Yeah. Just just put them back on the shelf with the plastic.   Yeah.  

[01:00:01] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. No. There there's   yeah. Blast has its own problems, but it's a heck of a lot better than plastic is anyways.  

[01:00:09] Jesse Fries:

It is. It really is. Yeah.   Alright. So you got anything else?  

[01:00:16] Jamon Fries:

I   am   not   did I put in here?  

[01:00:24] Jesse Fries:

Okay.  

[01:00:26] Jamon Fries:

Okay.   Now most of the other stuff I watched   the what I've been watching lately was about,   diet and controlling blood sugar and stuff like that. So, you know, not really anything that's   not not really anything that that you'd be interested in.  

[01:00:42] Jesse Fries:

Oh, yeah.   Let's see. I I came across one. Apparently, you know how they said, like, city network causes problems for you and everything like that. So they started doing this whole, like, standing desk thing and everything like that. Yep. Well Yep. A study came out and says that that that that that's full of shit.   And,   they they   they say it actually causes high blood or   higher blood pressure just to stand throughout the day.   So there goes that idea.   Yeah.  

[01:01:16] Jamon Fries:

Let me, the   the only problem   with   sitting   you know, I used to be a truck driver, and I sat for I was sitting in that driver's seat at least,   you know,   13, 14 hours a day usually.  

[01:01:32] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh.  

[01:01:33] Jamon Fries:

And the only problem with sitting   is if you have   health issues.   Yeah. I have a bad I've I've always had a bad heart that didn't pump the blood through my legs very well. Uh-huh. And so I so I would get so that so I get fluid retention in my legs.   And I had massive elephantiasis when I was driving over the road. I mean, massive.   Uh-huh. But,   you know, then as soon as I started putting my feet up, that never happens anymore. So, you know That's good. That that was.   Yeah. So   but I mean, really, other than that, there   sitting is a natural position that everyone has always done.  

You you didn't you the only reason to stand up was to move around.  

[01:02:20] Jesse Fries:

Generally.   Generally. Yep.  

[01:02:23] Jamon Fries:

Yeah.   Now maybe the way that they were sitting because, you know,   the back in the caveman ages, I highly doubt they had chairs that were like ours.  

[01:02:34] Jesse Fries:

No. They probably sat like,   like some of those like some Asian cultures do, you know, where they just sit down and they're on their feet.   It's crazy how they could sit like that. It's kinda cool. Oh, yeah. No. Absolutely.  

[01:02:48] Jamon Fries:

Yep.   You know, one thing I've never understood   is the Japanese culture of sitting on your knees.  

[01:02:55] Jesse Fries:

Uh-huh. Yep.  

[01:02:57] Jamon Fries:

I've never been able to do that for more than, like, 5 minutes.  

[01:03:02] Jesse Fries:

I think you just have to get used to it. The the that's, from a very, very, very young age. You know, you just do it until Yeah. It's just normal. You know, it's   but we we all get used to however   we're we're taught how to do things. So  

[01:03:16] Jamon Fries:

Yeah. Yeah. My knees start hurting so bad if I even hit 5 minutes doing that, though.  

[01:03:23] Jesse Fries:

Yep.  

[01:03:25] Jamon Fries:

Let's see here. Now you On that note It doesn't help how much I weigh and everything. But,  

[01:03:30] Jesse Fries:

true. True. True.   Well, on that note, thank you for joining us for episode number 13 of the Mindless Me and Dreams podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.  

[01:03:39] Jamon Fries:

And I'm Jamin Fries.  

[01:03:41] Jesse Fries:

And you guys have a great day.