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(00:00:20) Introduction
(00:01:47) Hot Assassin
(00:12:20) Daniel Penny Case and Legal Outcomes
(00:18:06) Inflation Refund Proposal in New York
(00:21:34) Tipping Culture and Restaurant Wages
(00:26:30) Charlemagne and Fetterman
(00:30:36) Missing Vials in Australia
(00:34:09) French Government Crisis and Syrian Conflict
(00:48:55) Let's Isolated, but not
(00:51:02) Cultural Differences: US vs UK Business Mindset
(00:59:07) Ozone Hole and Climate Change
(01:05:07) No Windmills for Denmark
(01:09:53) Historical Discovery in Georgia
(01:12:08) Alex Jones and Infowars Legal Battle
(01:14:50) Paternity Study and Artificial Wombs
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Good morning, everybody. It is Wednesday, December 11th, and we are live. I said live with episode number 15 of the mindless meanderings. I'm Jesse Friese coming to you from Central Texas, where I just learned that the city that I roughly live in, Austin, is ranked number 53rd in the best global cities in the world. Yeah. We're rocking it, baby.
[00:00:47] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Freese coming at you from eastern Kansas where not much is going on. We're at 30:30 degrees out. The Kansas City Chiefs won again. It's very close game, though. But Has always Yeah. It's it's funny. I saw some things on Twitter about how the reason that the Chiefs win are are winning because they're praying. They're praying before and after the game and stuff like that. Doesn't like, the almost every team has at least a decent group of people that does that.
[00:01:23] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Yeah. Every team or team. Yeah.
[00:01:28] Jamon Fries:
They they were basically trying to say that, all the other teams should should get closer to God because the Chiefs are close to God and they're winning.
[00:01:38] Jesse Fries:
Wow. Wow. Yeah. That is crazy. That is crazy. Yep. That it is. Well, let let's talk about the hot topic, right now. This, UHC, UnitedHealthcare CEO being shot, killed in New York City. That that's a bit crazy.
[00:02:01] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Very crazy.
[00:02:04] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It looks like this guy was just pissed off, at UnitedHealth Care for being denied claims. It seems to be the current most popular opinion on what's going on. And I ran across this one article. It's in the Daily Mail, a UK paper. And it says that their insurance plans in 2023 dismissed every three claims, so they denied a third of all their claims.
[00:02:35] Jamon Fries:
Well, that's not surprising. I mean, that's a lot of health insurance companies. They did they'll deny a lot of the big claims and only let the little ones through.
[00:02:46] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right. But this is, like, higher than most. I saw one graphic where it was, like, it was the highest, pretty much out of all the big companies, insurance companies, like, by far. And then, much out of all the big companies, insurance companies, like, by far. And then not only that, apparently, they had, implemented a AI back in, like, 2019, and it had a denial rate of 90%, 90%. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. So it's not really surprising that the shooter, actually put deny, defend, and depose or in whatever order Yeah. I know. On the shell casings.
[00:03:23] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, that's that's something that, every insurance every insurance company out there, they, you know, of course, you know, the more claims that they that they pay out on, the less money that they make. Yep. And
[00:03:40] Jesse Fries:
yeah. But this guy this company really it it's like it's the quintessential evil insurance company in movies. It's it's like they actually do it. It's not just a Yeah. Oh, this would be a great plotline. This is like they actually do it.
[00:03:57] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. And from what I've heard, a lot of there there were, there a a good number of those policies actually came from the CEO. You know? Right. He was he was very influential in getting those policies to running, you know, before he was CEO and and even and up and through. So, I mean, it it's bad that somebody did this.
[00:04:22] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Completely. You shouldn't commit murder, of course.
[00:04:25] Jamon Fries:
No. No. There there are much better ways to deal with it. Although, the better ways that everyone is suggesting are just full of crap. They're saying, no. You should go through politics. You should go to your senators and tell them about it and let them make laws against it.
[00:04:42] Jesse Fries:
Yes. The the
[00:04:43] Jamon Fries:
the government isn't gonna make a law against the company that's paying them shit tons of money. Yep. Yep. Yep. I mean, that's just the way it works. Yeah.
[00:04:53] Jesse Fries:
It's like, this is what happens when it just gets so bad. You know? It's Yeah. Yeah. Our society right now is getting to the point where people are getting fed up with crap.
[00:05:04] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. You know, the the that's it's not just that they're getting fed up with this. It's, you know, just the the entire culture of the US lately has been going this way of violence. You know? I mean, no. It tends to be on more more on one side than the other. Get but I mean, any any extremist will get violent. I mean, there we've had so many riots and and stuff like that that have happened in the last 10 years that I mean, yeah. It's like the dam broke, and it's
[00:05:40] Jesse Fries:
not gonna get fixed anytime soon. Yeah. Probably not anytime soon. Basically, once violence starts, then it keeps, kind of goes from there. You know, it's Yeah. It's like way back back in the nineties and everything like that. I was in high school, like mid nineties. And, you know, it's everybody knew that crap would happen, and we're seriously, we had talked about it in school. Like, when somebody just gonna shoot up a school because of, they're bullied or whatnot. And then, you know, the school shootings before Columbine happened and, like, Paducah and whatnot. And and then, Columbine happened, you know, and it's just Yeah.
Yeah. Completely horrible, never should happen. But, you know, there's there's only so much a society can take, until it breaks. And, you know, it Yeah. Absolutely. It was, like, what was it? Right after this, what was it? The Blue Cross Blue Shield, in Connecticut or something like that. They were gonna make it so that, they weren't gonna pay for anesthesia after a certain amount of time in surgery. Yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. And, like like, they just go, okay. Well, we're not paying for it anymore. You you know, like, 3 hours into the surgery, still got 5 hours to go. Hey. We're not paying for it anymore. Yeah. It's like, how does that even make sense? I I don't even know how that can make sense. You know? No.
[00:07:05] Jamon Fries:
It can't. I mean, unless unless they were like, well, you know, you just chose a bad doctor because the national average time for duration for this kind of procedure is this, and you guys go on 10 hours over. You know? We we don't wanna pay for that extra 10 hours.
[00:07:23] Jesse Fries:
But, you know, now they're not gonna do it, you know. And and and they, they just decided not to do it just right after this. I wonder why. Yeah. I wonder why. Yeah. I don't condone what he did by any stretch of the imagination. But, yeah, people have been have been getting fucked over by these people all the time. So it's not too surprising that somebody actually gets fed up with it and, does something about it. But I must say, he's one of the best looking people, to as assassins that I've ever seen. Seriously, this guy is ripped. He he he's a beautiful guy. He really is. So, you know
[00:08:06] Jamon Fries:
The the the thing is, sir, is that, I mean, I've been I've been looking at a lot of stuff, and I don't know. I don't think he was the guy The day if what I'm seeing is right. Right. Right. I I I because they've they've got some they've got some pictures, close ups of the of the shooter.
[00:08:24] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:08:25] Jamon Fries:
And his eyebrows are normal. They're they're this they're they've they've got a pretty good distance between them like most people do. But this guy's basically got a unibrow almost.
[00:08:39] Jesse Fries:
Well, it's pretty close. You know, I saw the same I saw the same thing that you're viewing. And then now I'm just looking at, this, article, the one that I was talking about, on the daily Yeah. Mail. And Yeah. I think it was photoshopped. I think that first the that one that they're using has been photoshopped because they seem pretty close together. Too much. Yeah. Yeah. It it they they look, pretty close together on, these. So it's,
[00:09:15] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Well, I mean, any any time you I any any I any time a McDonald's employee can identify someone by their eyebrows and the way that their nose looks. So that's how they got, I mean, you know, I I don't know. It just plus, you know, there there's a lot of conspiracy theorists out there talking about the connection with, with the with the u a with the, UnitedHealthcare UHC CEO and Pelosi. Yep. Supposedly, according to some people, he was supposed to testify against her in, in some in a criminal, insider trading case?
[00:10:04] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He he was, yeah, he was in trouble. UHC was, in trouble and everything like that. The FBI were investigating them, for quite a few different things. So Yeah. But but but the funniest thing one of the funniest things about this to me was you you know how people say, oh, too soon? You know? Yeah. Oh, god. It was never too soon for these people. It's like these memes. I swear to god. Yeah. And I copy paste it. Let's see. It was like it it was crazy. It's like there was this, like, the Bugs Wabbit season, duck season, duck season, duck season, duck season, CEO season.
You know? It's like and then they and then when they found out, his name was Luigi, oh, Jesus Christ, then they really brought out the Luigi from, Mario. Yep. Mario. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep.
[00:11:06] Jamon Fries:
I I saw one that was, that had the that had a picture that had a draw a characterization of the the shooter shooting the CEO. Uh-huh. And it said, this is murder underneath it. File claim denied. This is also murder.
[00:11:28] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's so many of those memes are there. You know, it's and it it was it was never too soon. It was, like, the minute you got out, people were making news about it. And I've never seen that about a murder before. Not Oh, no. Who was. Either of mine. No. We which kinda shows you how show you how how much people just dislike you, the industry or that company in and of itself. Well, just, yeah, insurance industry, insurance CEO. I think that's what it was. I don't think it was anything else but that. Yep.
Yeah. It was crazy. It was crazy.
[00:12:09] Jamon Fries:
Absolutely.
[00:12:16] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Let's see here. What else you got?
[00:12:20] Jamon Fries:
Well, sticking with New York. Uh-huh. The one kind of political thing here. The the,
[00:12:40] Jesse Fries:
I just shit. Well, while while you try to figure that out, we could talk about Daniel Penny as well, the guy that was acquitted, for criminally negligent homicide, for if you guys don't remember, this is the guy that, choked out, the one black guy, on the subway because he was acting odd and everything like that. And so to help other people, he, put him in a choke hold. Unfortunately, the other guy died, and so he he was put on trial and everything like that. The he had there were 2 charges against him, manslaughter, and then the criminally negligent homicide. The funny bit I saw there was that when, with the manslaughter charge, the that came back as a hung jury. They couldn't actually decide that one. Yeah. Yeah.
And per the original instructions, the judge was supposed to, like, not do anything about that and just basically, it would be hung jury and there you go. But apparently, he let the other charge go through and have the jury decide it, anyways beyond his original instructions. And then they just acquitted him of that one. They just said, yeah. No. He didn't do that. So
[00:13:58] Jamon Fries:
Well, my my understanding is that the prosecuting attorney dropped the manslaughter charges. Yes. Yes. It yeah. It well, it was dismissed. Yep. And it's like yes. Well, the the as soon as as soon as those charges got dropped, like, half an hour later, the jury comes back with their decision.
[00:14:16] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yeah. So it it was a bit odd. The father of the guy that died, he says he's good he's planning on doing, like, a civil, suit against him.
[00:14:29] Jamon Fries:
Yeah.
[00:14:30] Jesse Fries:
Fine and dandy, but I don't know what you
[00:14:33] Jamon Fries:
this guy isn't a rich guy. He's just a military guy. That's all he is. So I don't know. Yeah. They they they're not gonna get anything out of him, but at least, you know, I can understand it and and from one side, from the family side, you know, that even if you if you can't get something criminal, then, you know, just the, what is it called? The, I can't remember exactly what it's called in legal terms, but basically, the wrongful death of this guy. Yep. Yep. Yep. At least at least they'll at least they can get that. At least they'll try to get that pinned on them because that'll give the family a little bit of of comfort. You know, they they won't doesn't put the guy behind in jail, doesn't really give the family anything, but at least they'll they'll know that that someone out there actually cared about their kid.
[00:15:27] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. I think that's I think that's why they're doing it. But it's it's Yeah. It it he didn't mean to do it. See, that's the thing. It's like he was trying to help. Yeah. And it just went wrong. And, you know, it's like Yeah. Sometimes you just have to be okay with that. You know, it's like if your kid Yeah. Is messing up, sometimes, you you can feel everything, of course, but, you know, sometimes Yeah. It's just the way things are, unfortunately. So Yep. It's Yep.
[00:15:59] Jamon Fries:
And, you know, did like in many other situations when you've got drugs involved and when you've got other stuff like that involved, mental issues. I mean, the Perry when Perry put him into that choke hold, he didn't wanna hold him in that choke hold indefinitely, but the guy kept fighting against him. Yep. And so, you know, he didn't really have much choice. You've gotta control the situation, and that's what he would have been trained to do in the military. So
[00:16:26] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Military is not known for its police actions. But then again, you know, the police had George Floyd too. So, you know, it's Yeah. Yeah.
[00:16:35] Jamon Fries:
And not only that, but also the military is trained so that when you start an action, you make sure that the action is finished. Yeah. You know? It's it's You you don't you you don't you know, they they can't they for one of the reasons that they wanted to do that they were saying to do the manslaughter charges because of how long he held him in the choke hold. You know? He's they're like, the military would have trained him not to hold him in the choke hold that long. I'm like, no. The police would train you not to hold you in a choke hold that long. As far as military training, you're holding them until they're dead.
[00:17:08] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Until completely incapacitated, which a lot of times is death. Yep. It's,
[00:17:15] Jamon Fries:
Mhmm. So, you know, I mean, the the the the the the military wouldn't have trained him that, okay, you could hold on for this for this long, but then if you go after no longer than that, it may cause injury to him. Because the the whole purpose of the of the military's actions is to cause harm to people.
[00:17:35] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[00:17:37] Jamon Fries:
So yeah.
[00:17:40] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Unfortunate circumstances, no matter what, I don't think anybody's happy with the death or anything like that. It's just No. Yep. Yep. But this guy was trying to help you. He was more of a good Samaritan. And it just went wrong. So, yeah. That's how I viewed it at least. So did you figure out that other New York story? Yeah. Yeah. The,
[00:17:59] Jamon Fries:
the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul, I may not be pronouncing that name right. I think it's Hochul. Hochul. Okay. Okay. She is trying to get a inflation refund to to people to some people in New York.
[00:18:19] Jesse Fries:
Inflation refund. What exactly is it inflation refund?
[00:18:23] Jamon Fries:
So supposedly, because inflation is so much higher Right. They received a lot more money from ink from a sales tax. Uh-huh. Okay. And so she wants to refund the extra sales tax that they collected to people that make less than, like, a 100 and to to 300,000 for a family and a 150,000 for an individual.
[00:18:48] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's different. You you you Yeah. But okay. I understand, but everything will go up. You're gonna need that money sooner or later. It's not Yeah. Yeah. It's like all of us
[00:19:01] Jamon Fries:
She's she'd only be giving back $500 to families and $300 to individuals. So and it's not a huge amount of money. It's the you know, it's like Well, right. But the When I when I read that, I was like, okay. So she's gonna pay for your groceries for a week.
[00:19:16] Jesse Fries:
You know, you're just New York. So No. That that that that is right. If that. Yeah. You'd probably be lucky if they use that. And and people on the lower end would truly appreciate it. I'm sure they would. But the people on the higher end, it's
[00:19:30] Jamon Fries:
kinda Well and I thought of it I thought of something another problem with with doing this Uh-huh. Is that I don't know how men I don't know, you know, I don't know New York state rules or anything like that, but depending on income based how much you get and how much you're eligible for in food stamps and stuff like that. Uh-huh. I know that when I was in Colorado making the same getting the same income that I get right now, I was getting over $200 in food stamps a month. Right. I moved to Kansas. I'm getting $23 in food stamps a month. So, you know, that's because the cost of living out in Colorado is so much higher than it is here.
Right. But when you buy food with food stamps Uh-huh. You don't pay any sales tax.
[00:20:20] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:20:22] Jamon Fries:
So the people so a a large portion of the people that would be receiving this refund never actually paid sales tax on any of their groceries.
[00:20:32] Jesse Fries:
Well, that's different. That's different.
[00:20:37] Jesse Fries:
Good to know. Good to know. Hey. Yeah.
[00:20:40] Jesse Fries:
It would still help him out and, you know, it it would help him out, but, but not for long. It's kinda pointless. Yeah. And most people are getting raises anyways to compensate for what's going on and everything like that. Of course, some don't. But then the weight unfortunately, there's always gonna be the people that just don't make much money. And Oh, yeah. You know, you may get to the point, like, right at first, you get a huge increase like these, fast food workers and everything like that. But sooner or later, it's gonna be to where their wages are gonna stay the same. Everybody's gonna skyrocket over them because those are the lowest paying jobs. And then after inflation, they're screwed just as well as they were beforehand. So, yeah, it's Yep. Yep.
You could try to help things, but who knows? Who knows?
[00:21:35] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Speaking of wages, there's, NBC News that have had a story out about how the restaurants are making up for your crummy tipping.
[00:21:47] Jesse Fries:
Okay. How how how so?
[00:21:49] Jamon Fries:
Did you read it? Well, the the yeah. I did. The what they're saying is that, tipping has not has not followed the same the increase in tipping has not followed the same curve as inflation.
[00:22:04] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:22:05] Jamon Fries:
And so so the restaurants are now having to make up the difference by paying their people by paying employees more.
[00:22:13] Jesse Fries:
Oh, wow. And how is it now? It's a percentage of the bill. The the bill goes up, the percentage
[00:22:22] Jamon Fries:
the amount of money that they get stays the same. It goes up. What they're saying is that some people are no longer paying the 30% tip that's recommended.
[00:22:32] Jesse Fries:
Nobody pays the fucking 30% tip. What is this 30% crap? I I saw this too. I saw this thing too where it's like, oh, yeah. You need to pay 30% tip. I hell no. I've never paid a 30% tip. Yeah. It's a it's a 15 if it's decent service. It's 20 if it's great service. 25 if you're, like, if you're really hot. You you you know? And then I'll go with the 25 if you're really hot. I'll do that one. But, you know, the that's that's what it is. You know? It's not Yeah. There's there's no 30% tip automatically. I I saw that I saw a meme going, if you can't afford to, like, move the decimal point one, place over so that that's 10% and times that by 3. And I'm, like, going, no. No. There's no way in hell that I would do that. Anybody I know would do that. I know you're a cheapskate, Jamen, and don't tip at all. But, you know, it's
[00:23:30] Jamon Fries:
there's no way. I don't tip at all.
[00:23:32] Jesse Fries:
I I know. Based on service. Yeah. But in general, not at all. Service, you're getting a tip. In general, not at all. So In general. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we we talked about it last time.
[00:23:45] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:23:46] Jesse Fries:
But yeah. It's it's I don't understand that 30%. There's no way. Who whoever got it in these people's heads that you can make 30%. Yeah.
[00:23:58] Jamon Fries:
Who? I I don't understand it. I mean, it it's it's insane. The well, I mean, it it's it's not a who, it's a what. You you look at the you look at a lot of the, basically anywhere that that they that they have a percentage scale. Right. You know, 5%, 10%, 15% is what it's what it used to be. Now it's like 15%, twenty percent, 30% is what these businesses recommend tipping.
[00:24:30] Jesse Fries:
I rarely ever see 15% anymore. Now it usually starts at about 17 to 18%. Oh, damn. Yeah. Yeah. And then it goes up from there. And I'm like going no. So sometimes it's like a lot of times, it's like places I don't tip anyway, so I say, I decline or anything like that. Otherwise, I go into custom if I can. If see, the custom thing is not an easy thing to do either. They don't make that an easy thing to do. No. So but a lot of times, I'll just do custom, put in about 15% because that's usually what I do is 15%, and I go out about my life. This is what I've always done. I've always done 15%. Plain and simple. Unless if you you suck at it, then I might give you some panes in the water jar. Yep. You know, that sort of thing. But you really have to suck for that. Like, like the worst of the worst. You, you know, it's like, I've maybe done that once in my life or twice. But it's,
[00:25:24] Jamon Fries:
Jay, it's 50%. Like like are are do you mean like the service that we always used to get at the restaurant that shall remain unnamed anytime dad was there with us?
[00:25:36] Jesse Fries:
Possibly. I can't remember what that one was. You'll have to yeah. No. I I don't remember that. But I I remember kinda It starts with a p. Yeah. I'm not hitting anything, dude. Anyways Family reset. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He he they just hated him for some reason. I I never never go to we could never go there with dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:02] Jamon Fries:
The food would always be cooked wrong. The the waiters were all it would take forever to get an order taken.
[00:26:10] Jamon Fries:
Uh-huh. Yep. But only when we were with dad.
[00:26:13] Jesse Fries:
Only when we were with him. He was bad luck. They saw him and goes out. Yeah.
[00:26:21] Jamon Fries:
According to mom, that has changed now. They they no longer get it's no longer bad to have dad along there, but, well, that's good. That's good. Yeah. Let's see here. Okay. Now,
[00:26:32] Jesse Fries:
just a couple Trump things that I've, kinda noticed. So Charlemagne, the guy Okay. You know who do you know who he is?
[00:26:41] Jamon Fries:
No.
[00:26:42] Jesse Fries:
He he's, like, a radio host, around New York City, I believe. He's very popular. He he's he he he talks to the black community is, what he does. Okay. And he is completely anti Trump and everything like that, generally. But he himself, has said that, democrats need to kinda just focus on his policies and not just attack Trump because, apparently, Gavin Newsom, the California governor, he said that he's gonna make California Trump proof. So anything that the Trump does, he's gonna make sure that California is Trump proof. I I don't know how that's possible. Yep.
But, Charlemagne, he said, let's see. The quote is, if there's policies that you don't like that Trump may enact, make it about that. Don't make it about the person. Let's stop the person Yeah. Stuff that has been going on this
[00:27:38] Jamon Fries:
so long. Is that I think that's one of the biggest reasons one of the biggest problems with politics now is they they no longer talk about the issues. They no longer talk about policy. Instead, they just attack the person all the time. Yeah. And it happens on both sides. I mean, it's not just it's not just the Liberals that do that. It it it's politics is no longer seems to be about what you can do for the country. It's more about what you've done in the past.
[00:28:06] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep.
[00:28:09] Jamon Fries:
And what they can what they can make up that you're gonna do in the future. Yep.
[00:28:13] Jesse Fries:
And to go along with that, the senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman, you remember him? Mhmm. Yep. He's the guy that had the stroke. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so so you you know, after he had the stroke and everything like that, Republicans hated him and said, why is he here? He's a he's he's not functional. Yada yada yada. Do you remember all that? Right? Yep. Well, now he's he's coming back, and now he's, like, saying that, Trump needs to be pardoned, in, the New York City case. Just basically because it and he said it's politically motivated. We all know it's politically motivated, so we just need to get that one cleared up. So I wonder how Republicans think about him now and how the Democrats think about him now. He's he's kinda defending Trump with this.
It's it's like, will the democrats start attacking him now for the stroke? And, you know, you know, the republicans are going, no. He's a good guy now. You know, it's like, come on, people. You you you you you kinda need to pick 1. You know? It's Yeah.
[00:29:26] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. That that's, yeah, that's hilarious. Kind of, you know, knowing how the brain works and everything, you know, maybe Fetterman's brain got corrected a little bit with that story.
[00:29:38] Jesse Fries:
Well, it could just be he's making new connections and everything like that. Because you go through that, it has to make yeah. It has to make new connections and everything like that. Entirely new connections, and Yeah. They can they can quite literally change the way that you think and the way that you act. So Well,
[00:29:53] Jamon Fries:
I I
[00:29:54] Jesse Fries:
I I really don't know what his policies were before then or anything like that. But Pennsylvania, it is a more of a purple state, plain and simple. Yeah. And and so to be from there, to be a senator from there, you kinda have to be purple as well. You have to be somewhat, on the middle. Yeah. You you have to be you have to be very close to the middle,
[00:30:15] Jamon Fries:
which unfortunately right now between the 2 is, like, the middle ground is a big wide area now.
[00:30:23] Jesse Fries:
Oh, yeah. It's a very huge area actually, because both sides have kinda gone extreme. So it's,
[00:30:32] Jamon Fries:
yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah.
[00:30:36] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. And then, let's see here. Anything else, domestically or you got some international?
[00:30:45] Jamon Fries:
I've got some international stuff. Don't have anything more domestic. Okay. You heard about what happened in Australia back in 2023 with, 320 3 vials of, of infectious diseases disappearing from a lab. No. I did not hear about this one. Yeah. They they have no idea what happened to them. They just disappeared somehow. They went missing is what they say. They they think there's a possibility that they may have been incinerated, but that's just something that they're doing because saying to cover their asses. There's a there's basically no evidence that that happened. But, yeah, there's 323 vials of, and and I mean, it's it's all bad shit that can kill a lot of that can kill people. Uh-huh. Some of them some of them aren't aren't diseases that can be transmitted human to humans. So there's at least some benefit there, but 323 vials of these diseases that were being stored so that they could, you know, study them later. Right.
Like, the Hepavirus was one of them. Right. Uh-huh. You know? I mean, this isn't good stuff. This is something that you know, depending on who got their hands on it, it could go in a very bad way. Oh, yeah. Completely. Completely. There's there's a lot of people that think that China was involved.
[00:32:24] Jesse Fries:
Mostly because we like China no matter what. You know? Well well, not only that, but mostly because China took over that lab
[00:32:32] Jamon Fries:
in 2023 or 2022. Oh, okay. They they fired all of the personnel and brought their own personnel in.
[00:32:40] Jesse Fries:
Oh, okay.
[00:32:42] Jamon Fries:
And then within a year or 2, 323 vials are missing. And they're they're not really cooperating with the government in in investigating it.
[00:32:54] Jesse Fries:
Oops. Yeah.
[00:32:57] Jamon Fries:
So so there's there's some people that are saying that China might be involved in it. I don't know. I don't think China has to has to go to that extreme to get those to get those things. They've already got them all anyways.
[00:33:09] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:33:12] Jamon Fries:
So but yeah. There there there's some people that are thinking that that some people might be doing some research on them to try to, you know, gain a function.
[00:33:22] Jesse Fries:
Well, aren't we all, you know, our governments? They seem to be Everybody's doing that. So Yeah. They seem they seem to love that. So yeah. Not a surprise. Not a surprise at all. Yeah. That's crazy.
[00:33:38] Jamon Fries:
Let's see here. The the crazy thing the crazy thing for me though is that everything in the news report, everything that I've heard about it Uh-huh. Was talking about how we need to beef up security in these places. Right. None of it was talking about we need to find this shit and find out where where it went.
[00:33:54] Jesse Fries:
Maybe they already found it. They just don't wanna tell us about it. You know, that's, that could be. That could be. That's the only thing I can think of.
[00:34:04] Jamon Fries:
That makes sense.
[00:34:07] Jesse Fries:
That is hilarious. Let's see here. Looks like the French, they still don't have a government. So because, it the we talked about last time they're gonna do the vote of no confidence. Well, yeah, they they they voted no confidence in the prime minister over there. Nice. So so now, yeah, the president Macron, he is trying to seek a deal, so he can appoint a new prime minister. Okay. So it it's just pure craziness over there right now. Nobody really knows what's going on. They're still trying to figure it out. Yep.
But Well, you know, it's one of the one of those things that happens when governments
[00:34:53] Jamon Fries:
go so far out of touch with their people. You know, it's, you you're gonna end up with a short period without a government like in Syria now. Syria has no government right now and,
[00:35:05] Jesse Fries:
you know Well, that's a bit of a different situation.
[00:35:08] Jamon Fries:
Well, just a wee bit. But, you know, it was because the government was out of touch with their people. I mean, you know, trying to kill them means that they're out of touch with their people. Well, yeah. Yeah. Generally. Generally. But Yeah. Yeah.
[00:35:24] Jesse Fries:
I don't know. That's that place has been at war since what? Obama?
[00:35:27] Jamon Fries:
Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, not earlier.
[00:35:31] Jesse Fries:
No. I think it was really Obama. It was it was one of the springs, You know, the way they were trying to get like the Ukraine spring and everything like that, trying to get everybody to revolt. And we were backing some people and other people were backing other people. Russia was backing Assad. Yep. Yeah. It looks like Assad fled to Russia. So he's in Russia now. Yep. I saw that. Yeah. Some people thought his plane went down, but apparently not. Maybe he was planned that way. I don't know. Maybe they just turned off, the reporting back,
[00:36:09] Jamon Fries:
you know, the radio signal. One one surprise to me. I mean, they they wanted to they wanted to get him out of there quick, and they wanted nobody to know where he was going. So Yep. Yep. It wouldn't surprise me if they turned their transponders off.
[00:36:22] Jesse Fries:
It wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah. So he's, in Moscow, with his family. So I heard one thing where he's gonna open up a practice because he's a eye surgeon, actually. So they so I saw 1. It might be a real story. I don't know, because he's probably never gonna be able to get back into Syria again.
[00:36:43] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. Absolutely not. Yeah. I mean, you know, good good for him. At least he's at least he's trying to plan for the future.
[00:36:53] Jesse Fries:
Right? Right? Yeah. It's, yeah. I saw some things where it says, oh, there is torture in a basement and everything like that. And I'm, like, going Yeah. Okay. Well, show me a government that doesn't, and then I'll be surprised. You know, it's but it looks like the the guy, the the leader of the militants, his name is it looks like Abu Mohammed Al Goolani. Apparently, he was, Al Qaeda and, possibly ISIS as well, actually. So it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah. And he was trained by us, of course, because he was Al Qaeda. Of course. Yep. It was, yeah. Yep.
Yep. Yep. At least that's what I hear. And then I saw some meme where it's, the defense department is backing certain people, and then the CIA is backing others, and they're fighting each other over there, which one surprised me really. I could see that happening, but, you know, it's, Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it just because, you know, the defense department is more concerned about stability in the area, whereas the CIA, well, does who who knows what they're really concerned about? Uh-huh. Same with the DOD. I don't know. But anyways, it was just a meme. So I don't know I don't know if that's real or anything like that. I just thought it was gonna be funny. I mean Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I I have no clue if that was actually real, real or not. So
[00:38:16] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I I I saw an article about, about the to come out of, I don't know if the article was actually written in Germany or if it was just about Germany where they were taught with but the so I guess there's a lot of contention now within the within the German government about what to do. They're talking about possibly, revoking the revoking the, ah, shit. The you know, when people free flee from a country to to escape stuff.
[00:38:59] Jesse Fries:
Asylum?
[00:39:00] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Asylum. They're they're talking about, about ill just removing the asylum seeking aspect from people from Syria now. So anyone with a Syrian with anyone with a Syrian pass would have to would have to go back to Syria right away. Okay. There there's other people that are saying, but they're the best workers we have. Their unemployment is so low. They they work really hard. We we don't want them to go. And so so that so the government is now fighting over whether to whether to ship the Syrians back to Syria or to basically let them become permanent residents in in Germany now.
[00:39:42] Jesse Fries:
I can see that. I can see that. It's I think it's too early to say.
[00:39:46] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You you've gotta wait and you've at least gotta wait until the till the new government is formed because, I mean, you know, you don't wanna send somebody back that that isn't that doesn't think the same way that the government does. And, I mean, in that part of the world, if you don't think the same way your government does, it's usually not a good thing for you. Yeah.
[00:40:08] Jesse Fries:
But, also, it's like it's like which side will you fall on? Because generally, Al Qaeda is considered more of a Sunni, sort of organization, not a Shiite. Yeah. And but the people in Syria,
[00:40:23] Jamon Fries:
I can't remember the exact demographics, but I think they're more Shiite, but maybe I'm wrong. I believe so. I I I think you're right on that. I I could be wrong too, though, but I I think you're right on that. And so if it's a Sunni government,
[00:40:38] Jesse Fries:
they could just cause problems.
[00:40:41] Jamon Fries:
Well, and, you know, it it's also is that is that is the government gonna be backed by Iran still? You know, is Iran still gonna be getting involved in there Like, they try to in every other Middle Eastern country. I mean, if it's Saudi, it would basically a subsidiary. Well, yeah. I know. But that's that's, you know, you never know. Yeah. Yeah. True. True.
[00:41:04] Jesse Fries:
They they probably become more if it's more Sunni based, they'd, they'd probably be backed by Saudi Arabia and whatnot, because they're Sunni, and Jordan and whatnot. So
[00:41:14] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yeah. Well, I I've heard that Iraq has basically become kind of a lap dog for Iran now.
[00:41:23] Jesse Fries:
Well, right. Because we got rid of their government.
[00:41:26] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. I mean, I know exactly why it happened. I mean, it's 100% our fault that that happened. I mean
[00:41:34] Jesse Fries:
Well, yeah. Sadam Hussein didn't help himself though at all.
[00:41:38] Jamon Fries:
Well, no. No.
[00:41:40] Jesse Fries:
Didn't help himself at all.
[00:41:43] Jamon Fries:
No. But, you know, I've I've never really understood why any country would want the US to come in and help them do anything. Yeah. I really We have such a we have such a horrible record of helping to extend and then pulling out be with before they before they can actually protect themselves. Yep. You know, we go and we we help some we help some people like the like in Afghanistan, we helped the tribes fight against the and then we just kinda pulled away.
[00:42:13] Jesse Fries:
Well, we were there for 20 years. If you can't get anything together after 20 years Yeah. I'm sorry. You deserve what you get. It's
[00:42:20] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. You know? I mean, we we weren't exactly helping a lot of those tribes after even after a couple of years. You know, we we helped them to remove them from power, and then we basically just backed away and said, okay. Yep. You're on your own. We don't care what happens to you anymore.
[00:42:39] Jesse Fries:
That should have always been our policy. The US government works. Well, we should have always done that. You know, we we go in. You helped and, sanctioned Bin Laden. Okay. We're gonna wipe you out. Okay. Now we leave. We should have just left. Yep. Let them come back to pieces. It build up from there. It it's
[00:42:58] Jamon Fries:
because Well, the the thing that I think we shouldn't do is I don't think we should I don't think that we should go in and destroy every semblance of government that's currently there. And and, you know, I mean, well, we don't wanna how to say this? I'm not saying that we that we should form a new government there because that obviously doesn't work. I mean, look at Iraq. Yep. The we were in Iraq so long because we were trying to form their government. And we, you know, and we we just can't. We we we can't think the way that that other people in the world think. Mhmm. You know, that's just we have a lot of differences.
[00:43:41] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[00:43:43] Jamon Fries:
So you you can't but, you know, I don't know. We we gets involved in so many governments, and re government removal of powers and stuff like that. We help so many coups across the world just simply because one No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Doesn't
[00:43:59] Jesse Fries:
agree with us. You you said we help. No. We foment.
[00:44:05] Jamon Fries:
Well, yeah. Yeah. Haven't. We cause us the problem, and that helps solve the problem. Uh-huh. See, that's that's how it goes. You know, we foment them, and then we move on with our life. You know? It's a And, you know, in in that way, I think it I think it would be better if we were more of an isolationist country in in the aspect of instead of us going out and making sure that every government out there we try to make sure every government out there supports us. Uh-huh. That's not the way it should work. Right. We should become more isolationist and we should not enforce our opinions and our ideals on other people.
However, we cannot be isolationist because we are part of the world. So we we need to we need to be there to do things, but we shouldn't foment the problems. We shouldn't be we shouldn't go in and, you know, like Haiti. You know? We got so involved in Haiti because our banks were involved there. Uh-huh. And the day that our the day that that a government goes in to support the banking system that is causing havoc there,
[00:45:17] Jesse Fries:
that's a pretty big problem in my opinion. Well, we're just a continuation of the British Empire, which was Oh, yeah. No. It's not the same. You know? It is Not the British Empire. It was the French Empire. No. It was the French. No. I I I I'm talking that we are a continuation of the British Empire. Because World War 1, they couldn't do anything. We we loaned them so much money. And so we we basically took over in the World War 2, cemented it in that we are the continuation of the British Empire in the actual power, not not in who actually controls it, but we are the power of they just handed it over to us. And I think it was agreed to that we would become that our navy would instead of their navy would become the police of the world, so on and so forth. Yeah. And the British they've always been about the companies. You know, it's like the British East India Company. Oh, yeah. That was a actual company.
That company is weird. It could actually declare war.
[00:46:17] Jamon Fries:
That that company was more of a government than anything else. I know, but it wasn't. It was actually technically a government. It had no property, but it it had no it had no land of its own. It didn't have a capital, but it was essentially a government. It had its own army. It had everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was pure craziness. I in fact, they they would claim they would claim islands in the Pacific for the for the East Indian Trading Company. Yep. Yep. When when an when a company can start claiming islands, that that's a little bit problematic.
[00:46:51] Jesse Fries:
Why not? Why not?
[00:46:54] Jamon Fries:
But then again, you know, at the time, it was this it would there really was no difference because during during during that time, there were still a lot of kings. There's still a lot of monarchies. There were I mean, there was you know, the the world was based the world was basically controlled by 5 or 6 people complete total.
[00:47:15] Jesse Fries:
You know? Well, that's the journey of the world, and it always has been. It was really Absolutely.
[00:47:20] Jamon Fries:
But but unlike now where you have bodies of government that have to make the decisions Uh-huh. When it was just one person, it didn't really matter if they had a a title or not. You know, the the k the the corporation a company that had so much influence over the world. Yeah. Damn straight they're gonna be able to do whatever they wanna do. Influence over the world, yeah, damn straight they're gonna be able to do whatever they wanna do.
[00:47:41] Jesse Fries:
Now we can stop them. Yeah. It's still that way now. You know? And and see the thing is is, like, I agree with you on what I think the US government should do and everything like that. I I I I but to me, that that's that is what I think the government should do, how I would actually do the government. Now I don't know all the moving bits and pieces, and I understand that the government has to do certain things and everything like that. And the world did put us into this position. Now we grabbed it, but they put us there at the same time. You know? And then now they still want us there. It's like the Europe doesn't wanna spend all their money with a naval fleet patrolling the world, you know. Yep.
China, they're starting to expand, but they don't wanna completely control the world. They want their section of the world right now. And we're butting heads over there. But in the whole world, they're not, so they still want us around for parts of it. Yeah. And so it's it's like, how do you Without
[00:48:49] Jamon Fries:
us without us, there's a lot more instability in the world. Right. Right. Randomly. So Yeah. Any any government wants stability and wants worldwide stability. Yep. How we achieve the worldwide stability is what's up for grabs.
[00:49:04] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. And I don't think there's a good way to do it. I think if you can have power, no matter what, there's gonna be winners, losers. And so I will so I'm I don't like everything that our government does, but I am also okay with it because, well, I I don't have any better ideas, and I don't know everything that's going on there. But what I do know what I do know is that here at the Mindless Mandarin, we are a value for value model podcast. This means that, you guys can help us produce this podcast in all aspects of the show. You can send us ideas for topics. You could send us money so that we can actually keep this going. If you wanna create a jingle or something like that, some sound effect or anything like that, that would be cool.
Even little things like this. So just help us out. And if you have any ideas or wanna share any information or you just wanna send us a email saying you rock or you suck, you can, you can email me at jesse@mindlessc.com, and you can email jamon@jamon, which is jam0n, at mindlessmeanderings.com. Mine's jessie without an I. Some people always put i's in there for some reason. But, anyways, most importantly, we need that money. Please send us the money. It'll help us keep going, and we'll actually make my wife happy. So that'd be nice. Just donate what however much you think this podcast has worth to you. Could be a dollar, could be $500, could be a penny. I don't care. Just send us something. It'd be cool.
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[00:51:02] Jamon Fries:
Anything? Well, I've I'm down to one more topic.
[00:51:06] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:51:07] Jamon Fries:
I I was I was, cruising through x and came across an came across an article from, from a guy from from the UK. Uh-huh. He spent 10 days in the US for business. Okay. He discovered that the ocean between us isn't water. It's mindset. Okay. And so he he listed he listed 10 he listed, 7 uncomfortable truths about the US versus UK culture.
[00:51:39] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Let's hear these.
[00:51:41] Jamon Fries:
Okay. So one of them is Americans freely discuss salary, deals, and revenue, whereas Brits are guarded and awkward on money matters.
[00:51:52] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. And guess who gets paid more?
[00:51:55] Jamon Fries:
We do. Probably the Americans. Yeah. Yes. No. It's it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's number 2. Yeah. Yeah. Number 2 was the belief in possibility. Uh-huh. In America, you discuss discuss big plans in America, and the question is why not?
[00:52:15] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:52:16] Jamon Fries:
Whereas if you discuss big plans in America in the UK, the question is why bother? Okay. Okay. I can see that. Number 3 is the rising tide mentality. Americans celebrate wins with genuine infectious enthusiasm. It's all, let's go, high fives and celebrations. Yep. Yep. The Brits tuck, cringe, and with impotent envy and think, who does he think he is?
[00:52:47] Jesse Fries:
I I no. It makes sense. It makes sense. Yeah.
[00:52:51] Jamon Fries:
Number 4, the learning focus. Every win shared triggered rapid fire questions. What worked? How'd you do it? Can you teach me? This is in the US. If somebody does something successful, everybody's asking him, show us show us how to do this. You know, what did you do? What worked? What can how can we how can we take advantage of this and then build ourselves up? Well, yeah. We made a whole industry of it, the self help books, you know, and everything like that. It's a whole industry. Yeah. Yep. And the Brits, instead of asking those questions, they suspect it.
[00:53:29] Jesse Fries:
You're dodgy. Yep. Yep.
[00:53:33] Jesse Fries:
Okay.
[00:53:35] Jamon Fries:
Number 5 is risk tolerance. Uh-huh. Failure in a in America's proof you took a big swing and missed.
[00:53:44] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:53:46] Jamon Fries:
This time.
[00:53:47] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[00:53:48] Jamon Fries:
So you will try again because you you got to. You you I gotta keep on working at it. In the UK, it's a generational stain. We try scrubbing off quietly behind closed doors.
[00:54:05] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. I don't know that part of the culture, but, yeah, I can see it. And the this part of it this part of it actually kind of amused me.
[00:54:13] Jamon Fries:
And he wrote, no wonder America scales while Britain stagnates. Britain stagnates. Uh-huh. All 6 of the most valuable companies in the US, all of which are worth more than $1,000,000,000,000 have been been created in the last 50 years. Yep. By contrast, no European company valued at more than a 100,000,000,000 has been started within the last 50 years. Every company that's big over there is an old ancient company.
[00:54:44] Jesse Fries:
Interesting.
[00:54:45] Jamon Fries:
Interesting. Yeah. I I I I I read that. I'm like, holy crap. That's that's interesting. You That that proves a complete mindset difference. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. No. We 6, the speed of execution.
[00:55:02] Jesse Fries:
Uh-huh.
[00:55:03] Jamon Fries:
In the US, let's make it happen. Jump on a call, refer through networks, action first mentality. Yep. Yep. In the UK, let's be realistic. Let's list all the problems first, worst case scenarios, every reason not to try.
[00:55:18] Jesse Fries:
Okay. Okay. Well, in my head, I'm more British in that one because I always think of Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Okay. You do. Same here.
[00:55:27] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Number 7, follow the money. Uh-huh. Britain will lose nearly 10,000 millionaires this year while the US forecasts to gain nearly 4,000.
[00:55:39] Jesse Fries:
How? How are they gonna lose that?
[00:55:44] Jamon Fries:
Because they resent millionaires, sir. They resent people that have money.
[00:55:50] Jesse Fries:
But they love the nobles. It just doesn't make sense. How do you think those nobles got to be where they are?
[00:55:57] Jamon Fries:
Oh, I know.
[00:55:59] Jesse Fries:
Well, not the nobles themselves. It is their family. There is somebody that's saying chop off heads and take lands and
[00:56:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I I think that's one of the the biggest things that people don't realize about about about a lot of places where nobility has has been enshrined for so long Uh-huh. Is that people respect people it's like I I read an article a long time ago about, the differences in the mentality of the the the people from England and people from here. And it it it got me to think that the the reason that that people in Europe and in the UK and stuff like that, the reason that they're okay with, like, the government run health cares and every the government telling them what to do and how to do things Mhmm. Is because all the way back to when monarchy existed, they were always the serfs. They were there was always the government telling them how to do everything.
[00:56:56] Jesse Fries:
Right. Right.
[00:56:58] Jamon Fries:
And so they just adopted that mindset of following what the government tells you to do. And so they have massive respect for the government and but anyone that tries to step out and make something of themselves, they find suspect,
[00:57:16] Jesse Fries:
so they denigrate them. I could see that. I could see that. You know, you used the new kid slogan, sus. They're sus. Yeah. Yeah. And
[00:57:27] Jamon Fries:
I am not good with with with those with those words. I am not good with those with those words. I am not good with those. My my my kids have been throwing them around a lot. It's,
[00:57:35] Jesse Fries:
it's like sus and guiat and all sorts of stuff. Yeah.
[00:57:41] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. So those are the
[00:57:42] Jamon Fries:
those are the 7 the those are the 7 differences that he found. Yeah. In business world.
[00:57:48] Jesse Fries:
I I I could see that. I could see that. Yeah. The business world yeah. It's cutthroat. It's like, why not? Let's just do it. Yeah. You know, there's not, it's a lot of the, like, a lot of what American companies have done has been illegal, like Uber and whatnot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where where they just go in, disrupt the it's just disruption is what it is. It's like going, well, stop us if you can. You know? It's that sort of mentality. Yeah. It's, yeah.
[00:58:17] Jamon Fries:
Interesting. That that that whole that whole just do it, go for it thing, that that's why I decided to get involved with this podcast. Right. I mean, you you called me up, and I was like,
[00:58:29] Jesse Fries:
yeah. That could be fun. Let's give it a shot. Yeah. Why not? What what's what's the worst that can happen? You know? It's, Yeah. Exactly.
[00:58:36] Jamon Fries:
Yep. Yep. The worst, the worst that can happen is nobody listens to us and we stop recording after, you
[00:58:43] Jesse Fries:
know, the after a while. Yeah. We even stop. Who knows? Yeah.
[00:58:47] Jamon Fries:
Honestly, as as much as I've been enjoying this, I wouldn't wanna stop even if nobody did listen.
[00:58:53] Jesse Fries:
I I I'm Please, please, please keep listening and Please, please, please, keep listening and Please, please, please, keep listening. Yes. Let everybody know. We need you to listen and help us out. But, well, please let everybody know about yeah. Spread the word. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. So let's get on to, I got some other topics here. Let's some science and whatnot. Okay. So let's start with, the ozone hole, ozone layer, you know, and everything like that. So Oh, yeah. You you you you remember the ozone hole. Right?
[00:59:26] Jamon Fries:
Oh, I remember hearing about that in the early nineties, how they're Yeah. Yeah. The o's the holes in the ozone were growing and all that other crap.
[00:59:37] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yep. Yep. And, well, it was like just a while ago, I thought that I had seen something that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here it is. The ozone hole closed. This was back in 2021. And then and then today or a couple days ago, they came up with this thing where NASA reported, that this fall that the mean ozone hole from September 7th to October 13 was once again 23,000,000 square miles or square kilometers. So this was the same level that it's been in the last 3 decades stretching back to 1994. So the hole has remained large, and this is even getting rid of, the what is it? What were those called? The FFCs? CC?
I can't remember. The hydro Floral HFCs. HFCs.
[01:00:35] Jamon Fries:
The the HFCs. The CFCs, wasn't it? No. HFCs.
[01:00:39] Jesse Fries:
High floral whatever, I think. Let me see if I can find it. Yeah. But, yeah, even after getting rid of that and the hair sprays and everything I've heard about them? CFCs. There we go. CFCs. CFCs. Like I said. Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll fix all that mistake later. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, CFCs. So, yeah, even though they got rid of those and everything like that, they still have we're still up there with everything else. There's not the world world comes consumption has dropped to, like, nil, but Yep. The hole has actually remained the same. There there are massive drops up and down and everything like that, but it still
[01:01:26] Jamon Fries:
is the same. So Yeah. Yeah. It it fluctuates. I mean, I I honestly think that it's that it's I mean, I I don't know a lot of the science behind it. I don't know exactly what what it does, but I think that it's something that needs to be there. Yeah. Maybe maybe it's what maybe it's what prevents the, greenhouse effect from happening. Who knows? Who knows? Yeah. Lets everything escape. I mean, who knows? Yeah. I I have no clue. It's just part of
[01:01:58] Jesse Fries:
it's like humanity started to worry about it once we could actually measure it.
[01:02:03] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. It is. It's from my understanding where all this goes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like You don't know how long this thing has been there. The stories that are talking about how the ozone layer is depleting, which means we're not gonna be protected from any of the space radiation anymore.
[01:02:18] Jesse Fries:
Do you remember the start to 20 years.
[01:02:21] Jamon Fries:
In 20 years, the earth is gonna be so radiated, we can't survive.
[01:02:26] Jesse Fries:
Yep. Yep. I I I remember a sheet I got in, like, elementary school or junior high or something like that. But it was, like, what life was gonna be like in I think it was, like, 99 or something like that. And it was, like, oh, robot teachers, and you won't be able to go outside
[01:02:42] Jamon Fries:
because of the sun and everything like that. Yeah. You'll you'll not have to wear ant you'll have to wear anti radiation gear to go outside. Right. Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. I remember that stuff. Yeah. It's bad. No. It's been so long since I thought about any of that.
[01:03:00] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It has been a while. But, yeah, I I I found that funny, that article funny to know that, the ozone hole is still there. So yeah. Let's see here. And and then I I ran across this meme. It had different head headlines about climate change, and they were kind of funny. Okay. It was like, let's see. So some of these were, moose eat so much they may be worsening climate change. Beavers are accelerating climate change in Alaska. Toilet paper is driving the climate crisis with every flush. Calling feral buffalo for carbon credits. Win win or waste?
So, yeah, let's get rid of a buffalo, you know, just like we did back in the day. Yeah. Get get a Gatling gun on a train and just like we used to. Yeah. Yep. Let's see. The link between obesity and climate change.
[01:04:03] Jamon Fries:
Why why do they always try to tie tie things like that together?
[01:04:09] Jesse Fries:
I mean I don't know.
[01:04:11] Jamon Fries:
Especially obesity. Obesity has absolutely nothing to do with climate change. The only way that obesity will ever have anything to do with climate change is if it gets so freaking hot or gets so or if the air has so few,
[01:04:32] Jesse Fries:
shit.
[01:04:33] Jamon Fries:
Today is not a good day for me. Don't bear it in on your brain's going. Blanks on my my mind is drawing blanks on simple things. You know, carbon dioxide. I couldn't freaking think of carbon dioxide as when I was saying this. It happens. What the hell is it? I think I need to get my brain scanned. But Probably so. You know, so if if the planet loses much more carbon dioxide, we get below the point where plant life can't survive anymore. And then, you know, obesity will eventually go away. Yeah. It's perfect then. Perfect then.
[01:05:05] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here.
[01:05:06] Jamon Fries:
Oh, let's see. Defense against obesity. Lower carbon dioxide so much that no plants and kids arrive. Yeah. That's RFK Junior's new plan. I bet it is.
[01:05:18] Jesse Fries:
Let's see here. Along climate change, so, in Denmark, they're, you know, the ancestral home of of friezes. They they have actually they tried to put out a job. The government put out a job and, were giving, off the the it was a largest ever offshore wind tender. So, basically, they were asking people to build a big wind farm off of Denmark. Right?
[01:05:50] Jesse Fries:
Yeah.
[01:05:52] Jesse Fries:
Nobody took it up. Not a single person. There was not one bid on this sucker because it's just it's gotten to the point where everybody knows it's a waste of money because it's way too expensive to have it and to keep it going. It is just a massive drain of all resources. So Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There goes that plan. May maybe let's go back to nuclear or something like that. Something that's actually feasible, would probably be a good plan. Because, yeah, I don't mind going for zero emissions, but
[01:06:26] Jamon Fries:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know. I I was watching the video last night to see if there was anything interesting in the tech world. Uh-huh. And, they were you know, it was talking about, like, the the a whole bunch. It was just a listing a bunch of things about, you know, what's what's coming or what what is already here and stuff like that. And they were talking about, fusion nuclear energy, which is what, you know, which is what would really be sweet to get. Right. Because it has it didn't it has basically no negative sides to it because the radiation created is a very short lived radiation.
[01:07:06] Jesse Fries:
Yep.
[01:07:07] Jamon Fries:
And I found it so amusing because they're like, and, you know, if if we get fusion reactions, then we can use it to supplement the solar and the wind energy.
[01:07:20] Jesse Fries:
Like,
[01:07:20] Jamon Fries:
why the hell would you supplement solar and wind with nuclear fusion? Oh, yeah. Yeah. One fusion reactor replaces every single solar plant and wind plant in the country. One reactor.
[01:07:37] Jesse Fries:
Yep. You wouldn't need it. You wouldn't need it. Use it as a supplement. You would have to have backup systems just in case that that plant went down for whatever reason. But Yeah. Yeah. You you'd be good to go. You would be good to go.
[01:07:50] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I'm like, oh my god. Yeah. Is that just that just shows how insane they've gotten that they think that fusion would supplement a horrible energy source. What do we I mean, if if we could utilize the energy source properly, solar could be a great energy source. Yep. But we don't have the ability to utilize it.
[01:08:12] Jesse Fries:
Well, they're starting to try a system where, they beam electricity down. So it's basically I don't know how exactly it works. But basically, they have a satellite up there that captures Yeah. The energy, and then it transmits that energy somehow down to earth. Now I wouldn't wanna get into that beam because I don't know what I would be. I know. Yeah. But
[01:08:37] Jamon Fries:
but that's a very interesting idea too. You know? Probably probably laser or something like that. No clue. I could see. Yeah, there there's a lot of there's a lot of theory on on being able to do stuff like that. And that would be that would be interesting and wouldn't be that horribly bad to be able to capture the energy up in space. Because the the problem that I have with solar right now is like the big wind the big, solar farms down in Texas where the hail destroys them and you've suddenly got all this crap leaking out and destroying the destroying the terror to the land and everything. Well, that just happened in the UK, actually. It's horrible. There
[01:09:18] Jesse Fries:
yeah. There was a there was a huge windstorm, that knocked out, like, a huge field of, solar panels. I I don't know how they have solar panels in the UK because it's just cloudy there all the time. Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah. I I was I was kinda more surprised that they had solar panels personally than, anything else. But, you know, what can you do? So, let's see here. Uh-huh. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna change topics so we can get going. So okay. So, let's see here. So they found a stone tablet in Georgia, the country, not the state.
And this tablet goes back to about 14 1000 years ago. So this like, predates like, cuneiform or anything like that, like the oldest known writing that we know of. And these are they're just strange symbols. Nobody knows what they mean, and they don't know what language it's for or anything like that. It's just a stone tablet. It looks pretty clean, almost too clean in my when I look at it, you're good. I can actually see these things. A lot of the a lot of the time when you come across these things, you you can't really decipher much of anything, and then they go, no, you can see the shape here and everything like that. So much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This one is almost pristine, dude. It really is. So I'm, like, going, But, yeah, it says there's similarities to scripts, found in India, Egypt, and, Spain.
But, yeah, this is not for a recorded language or anything like that. So that it's interesting, if it's real. Yeah. They yeah. They dated it they dated it back to 14000 years ago, which is that's like before civilization practically.
[01:11:13] Jamon Fries:
So it's I've always I've always suspected the carbon dating too. I mean, I I I've heard too many stories of people going in and saying, we found it in this in in what we think is this time frame, and so that's when it that's when it they carbon dated too. Right. And, you know, I've I've heard of people that have gone in and given them the the different errant era that they thought that they had found it in. Like, you know, they found it like in say like 5000 years ago, but they'll say we we found it in the area that should be about 20000 years ago, and it'll carbonate to 20000 years ago. Yeah. Instead of the 5,000 that they actually found it in.
[01:11:57] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. It's hard to say. But, yeah, it's, but, yeah, it's kinda interesting. I like that sort of history and everything like that. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I think that's oh, I I have one other story. Well, first off, let let let's talk about the so Alex Jones. Yep. And everything like that. You know, they were trying to, the onion was trying to buy Infowars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the judge just blocked that completely. The, federal judge said, yeah. That didn't, maximize the amount of money that you could actually win. So Right. Yeah. Yeah. Which only makes sense because, yeah, that that was that was a bit hinky using the people that were trying to get the money to pay the money.
[01:12:43] Jamon Fries:
I thought that was kinda funny. Well, not not only not only that, but I've I've I did follow that story a little bit. And before the bid would they they decided that instead of doing an auction style bid, they were gonna do a silent auction where you put in a bid silently and they take whoever wait. They take the heart highest bidder.
[01:13:03] Jesse Fries:
Right.
[01:13:04] Jamon Fries:
But before the auction actually started, they were already reporting how much the company that he was affiliated with was going to be bidding. Yep. Yep.
[01:13:17] Jesse Fries:
It was all sneaky. It really was.
[01:13:20] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. I mean, it it there there was so much bad stuff going on in there. And then and then the decision that they didn't have to take the highest bidder. Hey. If you're auctioning something off and it's all about getting the money, why would you put a stipulation in there that you don't have to take the highest bid?
[01:13:39] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Yeah. They they they they should, see the problem is is that for these people, they wanted to shut him down. I don't think they cared about the money. Yeah. Oh, they didn't. But Not at all. But when you sue for monetary damage, that is the only thing that you can get. Yeah. So so somebody that is friendly towards Alex Jones, which is fine to me, they can buy info wars and then put him on the air. You know? It's a valid thing to do. So it's
[01:14:11] Jamon Fries:
Well, if they can even go so far as to buy InfoWars and then gift it back to them.
[01:14:17] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. But then you could say, well, you need to sell it again. See see, that's the problem with that. Because because he is owed Well, not not if not
[01:14:26] Jamon Fries:
if and and only if the only if the money that was bid is less than is owed. If Well, yeah. Because it's it's it's billions.
[01:14:34] Jesse Fries:
It's like a $1,000,000,000 or something like that. It's only gonna be sold for a few 1,000,000. So, yeah, it's gonna it's Okay. Yeah. Wow. So
[01:14:43] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. So you wouldn't give it back to him. You'd you'd retain ownership and just put him on the air. Yep. Well, that's what I figured. Yeah. That's what I figured. Yep. Okay. So
[01:14:52] Jesse Fries:
to end on a light note here. So you you you know all those a lot of people sometimes raise kids that aren't their own even though they think they're their own. You know? Yes. So, apparently, they did a study and whatnot. They worked it out that it only happens 1 in 100 times. So only 1% of, men are actually raising a kid that is not their own. I think this is I think that's really low. I thought it was higher than that personally, but, you know, it's a Yeah.
[01:15:29] Jamon Fries:
If you if you watch the media, if you watch anything, you know, Jerry Springer Show. Yep. Yep. You know, there's so many things out there that's they're like, it's gotta be at least 50%. I mean, goddamn.
[01:15:41] Jesse Fries:
The Morey Povich Show. That that one had, how many? I can't even remember. You know? That one is a Yeah. But yeah. So yeah. It's only 1%. One out of a 100, actually are raising, kids that are not their own. I think that's a good thing out there. Let's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
[01:15:59] Jesse Fries:
Yeah. Much better than,
[01:16:02] Jesse Fries:
I thought at least. So, you know,
[01:16:04] Jamon Fries:
there you go. That that reminds me of something else that I saw. There's, right now, they're they're trying to create, artificial wombs for babies. Uh-huh. The reason that they're doing it is for preemies, for children that for babies that are born way like, even before viability. If if the child is gonna be born if they have to remove the child for, like, health of the mother or something like that Right. Then they they're trying to develop something where they could put still put the child into this artificial womb. They took it too far though, this this thing that I was watching, it it was that same tech thing.
They they were saying that soon it'll be we'll have warehouses full of these wombs and women won't actually have to give birth to their own children anymore. So it'll get rid of the need for abortions because it's not it won't be the woman's body anymore.
[01:17:01] Jesse Fries:
Got it. Got it. Yeah. This is going straight into the matrix. Perfect.
[01:17:06] Jamon Fries:
Yeah. Absolutely. Yep. That's exactly where they were going with it.
[01:17:11] Jesse Fries:
And on that note, thank you for joining us for episode number 15 of the Mindless Meandering podcast. I'm Jesse Fries.
[01:17:18] Jamon Fries:
And I'm Jamin Fries.
[01:17:20] Jesse Fries:
And you guys have a great week.
Introduction
Hot Assassin
Daniel Penny Case and Legal Outcomes
Inflation Refund Proposal in New York
Tipping Culture and Restaurant Wages
Charlemagne and Fetterman
Missing Vials in Australia
French Government Crisis and Syrian Conflict
Let's Isolated, but not
Cultural Differences: US vs UK Business Mindset
Ozone Hole and Climate Change
No Windmills for Denmark
Historical Discovery in Georgia
Alex Jones and Infowars Legal Battle
Paternity Study and Artificial Wombs